What Does Poverty Look Like on a Plate? | Huiyi Lin | TED

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Yeseul Kang κ²€ν† : DK Kim
00:05
Poverty is really linked to so many things in life.
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λΉˆκ³€μ€ 정말 λ§Žμ€ λ©΄μ—μ„œ μ‚Άκ³Ό κΈ΄λ°€νžˆ μ—°κ΄€λ˜μ–΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:10
Because it is not just an economic phenomenon.
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κ·Έμ € λ‹¨μˆœν•œ 경제 ν˜„μƒλ„ μ•„λ‹ˆκ³ 
00:13
It’s not just a social phenomenon.
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μ‚¬νšŒμ  ν˜„μƒλ§Œλ„ μ•„λ‹ˆλ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
00:15
It's an individual and a family.
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개인 및 κ°€μ‘± λ¬Έμ œμ™€ μ—°κ΄€λ˜μ–΄ 있고
00:17
It's at the base of really what it means to be human
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μΈκ°„μ΄λΌλŠ” κ²ƒμ˜ μ§„μ •ν•œ μ˜λ―Έμ™€
μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μΈκΆŒμ„ μƒκ°ν•˜λŠ” λ°©μ‹μ˜ λ°”λ‹₯에 κΉ”λ € μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:21
and how we think about human rights.
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00:25
My name is Huiyi Lin.
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제 이름은 후이이 린이고 μ°¨μš°μ™€ 린으둜 ν™œλ™ν•˜λŠ” μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€μ˜ˆμš”.
00:27
I'm an artist with Chow and Lin.
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00:29
I've been creating a project called "The Poverty Line"
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μ €λŠ” μ§€λ‚œ 14λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ β€˜λΉˆκ³€μ„ β€™μ΄λΌλŠ” ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈλ₯Ό
00:32
for the past 14 years with my partner, Stefen Chow.
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제 νŒŒνŠΈλ„ˆμΈ μŠ€ν‹°λΈ μ°¨μš°μ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ μ§„ν–‰ν•΄ μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:35
I calculated the per-person per-day rate of the national poverty line in China.
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μ €λŠ” μ€‘κ΅­μ˜ 1인당 ν•˜λ£¨ λΉˆκ³€μ„ μ„ 계산해 λ΄€μ–΄μš”.
00:40
We then went to the local markets to purchase food items
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그런 λ‹€μŒ ν˜„μ§€ μ‹œμž₯에 κ°€μ„œ κ·Έ 돈으둜 μ‹λ£Œν’ˆμ„ κ΅¬μž…ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:43
with that amount of money.
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00:44
Stefen photographed the food on local newspapers,
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μŠ€ν‹°λΈμ€ μ§€μ—­ μ‹ λ¬Έ μœ„μ— μŒμ‹μ„ 놓고 사진을 μ°μ—ˆλŠ”λ°
00:47
showing what poverty looks like on a plate.
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κ·Έ 사진은 μ ‘μ‹œμ— λ‹΄κΈ΄ κ°€λ‚œμ΄ μ–΄λ–€ λͺ¨μŠ΅μΈμ§€ λ³΄μ—¬μ€¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:51
The poverty line tries to understand
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λΉˆκ³€μ„ μ„ ν†΅ν•΄μ„œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ”
00:54
and look at a very simple question:
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μ•„μ£Ό κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ μ§ˆλ¬Έμ„ 이해해 보렀고 ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:57
what does it mean to be poor?
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β€˜κ°€λ‚œν•˜λ‹€λŠ” 것은 무엇을 μ˜λ―Έν• κΉŒ?’
00:59
We're looking at it from the angle of food choices,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ‹ν’ˆ μ„ νƒμ΄λž€ λ©΄μ—μ„œ 이 문제λ₯Ό 바라보고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:02
which would be available for somebody living at the poverty line of a country.
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μ–΄λ–€ κ΅­κ°€μ˜ λΉˆκ³€μ„ μ— μžˆλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ κ΅¬μž…ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” μ‹ν’ˆ 말이죠.
01:06
When we talk about choices,
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선택에 λŒ€ν•΄ 이야기할 λ•ŒλŠ”
01:08
we also need to understand the scope in which we are able to make choices.
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선택을 ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” λ²”μœ„λ„ 이해해야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:12
And that really changes the way that we can behave,
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κ·Έ 선택에 λ”°λΌμ„œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 행동할 수 μžˆλŠ” 방식,
01:17
the way that we relate to each other,
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μ„œλ‘œ 관계λ₯Ό λ§ΊλŠ” 방식,
01:20
the way that we see each other
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μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό λ°”λΌλ³΄λŠ” 방식과 ν•¨κ»˜ 일할 수 μžˆλŠ” 방식도 λ°”λ€λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:21
and the way that we can work together.
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01:24
When we first created the project, we didn't even know what it was.
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처음 ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈλ₯Ό λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆμ„ λ•ŒλŠ” 그게 뭔지도 λͺ°λžμ–΄μš”.
01:28
It was kind of just a way of communicating between the two of us,
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κ·Έλƒ₯ 우리 λ‘˜ μ‚¬μ΄μ—μ„œ μ–΄λ–€ μ˜μ‚¬μ†Œν†΅ λ°©λ²•μ΄μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
01:34
a way of extending that discussion about what poverty means.
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λΉˆκ³€μ΄λž€ 무엇인지에 λŒ€ν•œ λ…Όμ˜λ₯Ό ν™•μž₯ν•˜λŠ” λ°©λ²•μ΄μ—ˆμ£ .
01:39
But when we started releasing the photographs online
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ˜¨λΌμΈμ— 사진을 κ³΅κ°œν•˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν•˜μž
01:42
and we saw reactions coming from people in the US,
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λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ λ°˜μ‘μ΄ ν„°μ Έ λ‚˜μ™”κ³ 
01:45
from people in Europe and people in Russia,
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μœ λŸ½μ—μ„œλ„, λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œλ„,
01:47
and then later on, only much later on, people in China themselves,
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λ‚˜μ€‘μ—λŠ”, 훨씬 λ‚˜μ€‘μ΄κΈ΄ ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ, μ€‘κ΅­μ—μ„œλ„ λ°˜μ‘μ΄ λ‚˜μ™”μ£ .
01:51
whether it was right, whether it was too little,
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사진듀이 μ μ ˆν•œμ§€, λ„ˆλ¬΄ 적은지,
01:53
whether it looks good, whether it looks fresh,
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μ’‹μ•„ λ³΄μ΄λŠ”μ§€, μ‹ μ„ ν•΄ λ³΄μ΄λŠ”μ§€,
01:56
whether it wasn't as what they expected.
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μ˜ˆμƒκ³Ό λ‹¬λžλŠ”μ§€ λ“± μ˜κ²¬μ„ λ‚˜λˆ„μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
01:59
We found that different people have different responses
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같은 사진에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλ„ μ‚¬λžŒλ§ˆλ‹€ λ°˜μ‘μ΄ λ‹€λ₯Έ κ±Έ μ•Œκ²Œ 됐죠.
02:02
to the same set of photographs.
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02:03
And it was very strange.
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맀우 μ΄μƒν•œ μΌμ΄μ—ˆκ³  정말 μ˜ˆμƒμΉ˜ λͺ»ν•œ μΌμ΄μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
02:04
It was really unexpected.
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02:06
There is no policy report I could have ever written
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μ œκ°€ μž‘μ„±ν–ˆλ˜ μ •μ±… λ³΄κ³ μ„œ 쀑에
02:08
that would have generated this kind of response.
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이런 λ°˜μ‘μ„ μ΄λŒμ–΄ λ‚Έ 건 μ—†μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:11
For me, that was supposed to be a very objective way
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μ €λŠ” 이 사진이 λΉˆκ³€μ„ 맀우 객관적인 μ‹œκ°μœΌλ‘œ ν‘œν˜„ν–ˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν–ˆλŠ”λ°
02:15
of looking at poverty,
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02:16
but yet it became very subjective
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μ‹€μ œλ‘œλŠ” μ•„μ£Ό μ£Όκ΄€μ μœΌλ‘œ λ°›μ•„ λ“€μ—¬μ‘ŒμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:18
in the way that people connected
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 사진을 μžμ‹ μ˜ μ‚Άκ³Ό μ—°κ΄€μ§€μœΌλ©΄μ„œ
02:20
and felt emotional or very deeply personal
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κ°μ •μ μ΄κ±°λ‚˜ 맀우 개인적으둜 ν•΄μ„ν–ˆμ£ .
02:24
about the food that we were presenting.
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02:26
We all have reactions, basically to food,
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우리 λͺ¨λ‘λŠ” μŒμ‹μ„ 보면 μžμ—°μŠ€λŸ½κ²Œ λ°˜μ‘μ„ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:29
because it is a daily unifying human ritual.
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μŒμ‹μ€ μΌμƒμ—μ„œ 인간이 μ—°λŒ€ν•˜λŠ” μ˜μ‹μ΄κ±°λ“ μš”.
02:33
That kind of very visceral,
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μ²˜μŒμ—λŠ” 이런 μ›μ΄ˆμ μ΄κ³  λ³ΈλŠ₯적인 λ°˜μ‘ λ•Œλ¬Έμ— λ†€λžμ§€λ§Œ
02:35
instinctive reaction was something that surprised me,
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02:39
but later on became a very meaningful part
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λ‚˜μ€‘μ—λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ˜ μ°Έμ—¬λ₯Ό μ΄λŒμ–΄ λ‚Έλ‹€λŠ” μ μ—μ„œ
02:41
of how the work engages people.
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맀우 의미 μžˆλŠ” 것이 λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:43
So we expanded the concept to different places.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ‹€λ₯Έ μž₯μ†Œλ‘œ ν™•μž₯ν•΄ λ‚˜κ°”μ–΄μš”.
02:45
We photographed what daily food choices at the poverty line looks like
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ „ 세계 λΉˆκ³€μ„ μ— μžˆλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ 맀일 λ¨ΉλŠ” μŒμ‹μ„ μ‚¬μ§„μœΌλ‘œ λ‹΄μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:49
all over the world,
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02:50
and we ultimately covered 38 countries and territories
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μ΅œμ’…μ μœΌλ‘œ 6λŒ€λ₯™μ— μžˆλŠ” 38κ°œκ΅­μ„ λ‹€λ£¨μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:53
across six continents.
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02:55
Poverty is at the base of many issues that we see today,
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μ˜€λŠ˜λ‚  μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ§λ©΄ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” μˆ˜λ§Žμ€ 문제의 λΏŒλ¦¬μ— 빈곀이 있으며
02:59
and it will also be affected by many of the trends
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세계적 좔세에도 영ν–₯을 λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:02
that we see in climate change,
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예λ₯Ό λ“€λ©΄, κΈ°ν›„ λ³€ν™”, λΆ„μŸ,
03:04
in conflict, in migration,
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이주, μˆ˜λ§Žμ€ μœ„κΈ° 등이 있죠.
03:07
and many crises, whether man-made or natural.
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μΈμœ„μ μ΄λ“  μžμ—°μ μ΄λ“  μƒκ΄€μ—†μ΄μš”.
03:11
Our photographs don't change that, but they do prompt conversations.
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사진을 μ°λŠ”λ‹€κ³  ν•΄μ„œ λ‹¬λΌμ§€μ§€λŠ” μ•Šμ§€λ§Œ
λŒ€ν™”λ₯Ό μ΄λŒμ–΄λ‚Ό 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:15
"The Poverty Line" images have sparked policy conversations
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β€˜λΉˆκ³€μ„ β€™ ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈμ˜ 사진듀은 μ •μ±… λ…Όμ˜λ₯Ό μ΄‰λ°œν–ˆκ³ 
03:18
and prompted new research.
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μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ 연ꡬλ₯Ό μ΄‰λ°œν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:20
Working in policy or working in economic frameworks,
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μ •μ±… λΆ„μ•Όμ—μ„œ μΌν•˜κ±°λ‚˜ 경제 λͺ¨λΈμ„ μ μš©ν•  λ•ŒλŠ”
03:24
there is a tendency to look at the broad strokes,
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κ±°μ‹œμ  κ΄€μ μ—μ„œ ν­λ„“κ²Œ λ°”λΌλ³΄λŠ” κ²½ν–₯이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:27
at the macro view,
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03:29
but it really depends on what is the local context,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ΄λŠ” μ§€μ—­ λ§₯락에 따라 달라지며
03:31
and it's not something in the hands of somebody else.
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λ‹€λ₯Έ μ–΄λ–€ μ‚¬λžŒμ˜ 손에 달린 것도 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:34
It really is, you know, the next person beside us,
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우리 λ°”λ‘œ μ˜†μ— μžˆλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒ, 곡동체 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ 달렀 있죠.
03:37
the people in our own communities.
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03:39
We need to understand that we are all part of the same system
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우리 λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ 같은 μ‹œμŠ€ν…œμ— 속해 있고
03:42
and we all play a role in it.
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κ·Έ μ•ˆμ—μ„œ 각자 역할을 ν•œλ‹€λŠ” 것을 이해해야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:44
"The Poverty Line" is really about bridging the gaps
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λΉˆκ³€μ„  ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€ 간에 μ΄ν•΄μ˜ 간극을 λ©”μ›Œ
03:48
in our understanding, making us very curious,
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ν˜ΈκΈ°μ‹¬μ„ μžκ·Ήν•˜κ³  더 λ§Žμ€ 것을 μ΄ν•΄ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άκ²Œλ” ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:51
also motivated to want to understand more.
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03:54
Because there are so many things which really bind us together,
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우리λ₯Ό ν•˜λ‚˜λ‘œ λ¬Άμ–΄μ£ΌλŠ” 것듀이 μ•„μ£Ό 많고
03:57
and that really changes how we view the world,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 세상을 λ°”λΌλ³΄λŠ” 방식, μ˜μ‚¬ κ²°μ • 방식,
04:00
how we view decision making,
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04:02
and how we view the people around us.
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μ£Όλ³€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ„ λ°”λΌλ³΄λŠ” 관점을 λ°”κΏ” λ†“λŠ” 것이 μ•„μ£Ό λ§ŽμœΌλ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
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