The Rhythm and Rhyme of Memory, Solitude and Community | Rosanne Cash | TED

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翻译人员: 思辰 李 校对人员: Yan Li Xiao
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I had a friend,
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我有位朋友,
00:06
a songwriting mentor and a great songwriter, John Stewart,
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一位伟大的导师和写歌人: 约翰·斯图尔特(John Stewart)。
00:11
who told me just before he died,
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他在去世前告诉我,
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"We are all just radios,
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“我们都只是收音机,
00:18
hoping to pick up each other's signals."
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渴望着能接收到别人的信号。”
00:23
I found that to be true and profound.
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我发现这句话如此真实而又深刻。
00:27
And I've spent my life trying to clear the static.
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我一生都在努力清除 我收音机上的静电。
00:32
The strongest signals that come to me are musical
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音乐是传递给我的最强信号。
00:35
in the form of songs or stories told in rhythm and rhyme.
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音乐以歌曲或以节奏 和韵律装点的故事传递给我。
00:42
Sometimes I can tune in to a revolution in the heart.
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有时,我可以找到 内心中革命的曲调。
00:50
Sometimes I hear a keen from my Celtic ancestors.
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有时我听到来自我的先祖 凯尔特人的热切呼唤。
00:55
And some songs have been postcards from my future.
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有些歌曲则是未来寄给我的明信片。
01:04
In my family, there was a song for every loss, every celebration,
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在我家里, 每一次失去、每一次欢庆、
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every unspoken need, every longing.
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每一次未能言说的需求、 每一次渴望、都构成了一首歌。
01:13
But there was also so much chaos that often I was the only one
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但世界上有如此多的混乱,
01:17
who recognized what was being communicated.
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以至于我常常成了人群中 唯一听清了音乐所蕴含的东西的人。
01:23
My grandmother, Carrie Cash,
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我的祖母, 卡莉·卡什(Carrie Cash),
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moved with my grandfather and their five children
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与我的祖父和他们的五个孩子一起
01:31
into a New Deal era colony
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搬到了新政时代的殖民地。
01:34
created by FDR for poor families
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这块殖民地是由民主党 在 1935 年建立的。
01:38
in the sunken lands of the Arkansas Delta in 1935.
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是为阿肯色三角洲 沉没了的土地上的贫困家庭建立的。
01:45
So they moved into this freshly painted cottage,
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他们搬进了一间刚刷漆的小屋,
01:49
and she gave birth to two more babies there
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她在那里又生了两个孩子,
01:53
with the assistance only of a doctor
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当时仅仅只有一位医生助产。
01:55
who came by in a horse and buggy
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只见这位医生坐着马车来了,
01:58
and pulled two loose aspirin from his pocket to give to her.
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从口袋里掏出 两片散装阿司匹林给她吃。
02:03
The same pocket in which he kept his fishing worms.
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这也是他放虫子做的鱼饵的口袋。
02:07
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:11
That's true.
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真的。
02:13
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:15
I read once that every time an old woman dies,
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我曾经读到过,
每当一位老妇人去世, 一座图书馆就消失了。
02:20
a library disappears.
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02:25
And before her library disappeared,
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而在我祖母的图书馆消失之前,
02:27
I tuned into my grandmother's signals
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我调整了一下她的信号,
02:30
and gleaned her tenacity
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刻录下了她坚韧的精神。
02:36
which I borrowed,
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我借来了这种精神
02:40
and her long suffering in her life of constant work with seven children,
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和她多年辛勤工作中 照顾七个孩子的艰辛,
02:45
six of whom made it to adulthood.
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其中有六个孩子得以长大成人。
02:49
In a house without electricity.
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在一个没有电的房子里,
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In the sweltering cotton fields,
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在闷热的棉花地里,
02:57
and I wrote these words about her.
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我写下了这些关于她的词句。
02:59
(Music)
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(音乐)
03:01
(Singing) Five cans of paint
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(唱歌)五罐油漆
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in the empty fields
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在旷野里。
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And the dust reveals
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尘土飞扬。
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And the children cry
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孩子哭泣。
03:19
the work never ends
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辛劳不止。
03:23
There’s not a single friend
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朋友无踪无迹。
03:32
Who will hold her hand
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谁会在沉没的土地上与她携手相依?
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in the sunken lands?
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03:56
And the mud and tears melt the cotton balls
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棉团融化在泪与泥里。
04:04
It’s a heavy toll
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损失沉重。
04:07
Oh, oh
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噢,噢~
04:11
His words are cruel
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他言之残酷,
04:15
and they sting like fire
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如火灼烧刺痛,
04:19
Like the devil’s choir
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似魔鬼般的合唱让人心痛。
04:22
Oh, oh
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噢,噢~
04:27
Who will hold her hand
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谁会在陷没的土地上与她携手相依?
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in the sunken lands?
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04:35
(Music)
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(音乐)
04:51
The river rises and she sails away
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河水上涨,她黯然离去。
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She could never stay
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她总是无法停留在这片土地。
05:02
Oh, oh
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噢,噢~
05:07
Now her work is done
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终于结束辛劳,
05:11
in the sunken lands
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在沉没的土地上。
05:15
There’s five empty cans
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空余五个空罐。
05:19
(Music)
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(音乐)
05:36
(Music ends)
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(音乐结束)
05:40
(Applause)
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(掌声)
05:51
In 1992,
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在 1992 年,
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I was writing a song about my divorce,
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我写了一首关于我离婚的歌,
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which hadn't happened yet.
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虽然还没离呢。
05:59
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:01
But which I saw coming like a freight train.
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但是我当时觉得真是指日可待。
06:05
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:09
So I was stuck in this song
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所以我被这所歌所困,
06:12
like I was stuck in my life.
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就像我被生活所困一样。
06:15
And the same time across the country,
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同一时间,不同的地点,
06:19
my mother was going through a box of my school assignments
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我的母亲在一个盒子里 翻到了我上学时候写的作业
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and childhood drawings,
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和一些儿时的画。
06:26
and she sent it to me.
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她就把这些东西寄给我了。
06:28
So I started going through this box, and I came across this yellowed paper,
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我就开始翻这个盒子, 然后我看到了一张黄纸。
06:32
this school assignment I had done in the seventh grade
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这是一张我在天主教学校 上 7 年级时写的
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in Catholic school
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on metaphors and similes.
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关于暗喻和明喻的作业。
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Now I vividly remember the pleasure I took in that assignment
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我清楚地记得 做那份作业时我有多开心
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because it was literally the only thing
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因为那真的是修女们 让我做的所有事情里
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the nuns had ever given me to do that I enjoyed.
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唯一一件我享受的事。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:58
So this line I had written popped out at me.
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于是我灵光乍现,就有了这句歌词:
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"A lonely road is a bodyguard."
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“孤独之路即是保镖。”
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What did it mean?
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什么意思呢?
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I had even pasted a picture of this empty road
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我甚至还在这句歌词的边上
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next to the line.
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贴上了一张空旷道路的图片。
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It was a metaphor.
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这是个比喻。
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It wasn't "a lonely road is like a bodyguard," a simile.
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这不是在说 “孤独之路‘就好像’保镖。”
07:27
It was the much more poetic: “A lonely road is a bodyguard.”
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而是富有诗意的说 “孤独之路‘就是’保镖。”
07:35
As painful as that was then, and as it still can be painful now,
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想象一下那时的痛苦, 或许现在也痛苦依然。
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I knew what she was telling me.
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我知道她想告诉我什么。
07:43
That ...
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那就是...
07:45
Solitude can protect the seeds of creativity.
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孑然一身呵护了创造力的种子。
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And that loneliness contains a priceless gift
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孤寂会给你带来无价的礼物,
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if we can tolerate the initial discomfort
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但你要能忍受最初的不适,
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and avoid the seduction of despair.
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抵御绝望的侵蚀。
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So my 12-year-old waved at me across the decades,
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我仿佛看到几十年前 12 岁的我在招手,
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saying that who I was
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她告诉我她曾经的样子,
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was who I would become.
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和我要成为的样子。
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And I waved back
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我挥手回应,
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and I dropped her line right in the song I was writing.
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然后在我写的歌里给她送去答句。
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(Singing) I’ll send the angels to watch over you tonight
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(唱歌)今晚我会派天使来关照你,
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And you send them right back to me
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你也会叫天使与我相依。
08:35
A lonely road is a bodyguard
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独行的道路即是保镖,
08:40
If we really want it to be
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会让我们称心满意。
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(Music ends)
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(音乐结束)
08:45
We're all just radios
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我们都只是收音机,
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hoping to pick up each other's signals.
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渴望着能接收到别人的信号。
08:52
And some of those signals have a backbeat and a melody,
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有些信号则带着强节拍和旋律。
08:56
and they're universal.
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这是很普遍的。
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And music can unlock a frozen memory
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音乐可以取出冰封的记忆,
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that melts into the seeds of our creativity.
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将它们融化成创造力的种子。
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And the reverse is also true.
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反之亦然。
09:09
A memory can unlock a song that's waiting to be written.
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一段记忆可以带来 一首等待书写的歌曲。
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It can reveal us to ourselves across time and generations,
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它可以在时移世易中看清自己,
09:22
in community, in solitude.
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在集体中,在孤独中揭示自己。
09:28
Some frequencies are sound,
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有些频率构成声音,
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and some frequencies are light.
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有些频率化作了光芒。
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And some take a half a lifetime
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有些则花上半辈子
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to reach their destination.
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才找到自己的归处。
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(Music)
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(音乐)
09:50
(Singing) Light is particle and wave
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(唱歌)光是粒子也是波。
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Our histories written large upon the page
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历史化作纸上笔墨。
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The star in middle age
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中世纪的星彩。
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The love that fades to black
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黑暗中隐去的爱。
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Once revealed, won’t be taken back
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一旦揭开,就收不回来。
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Light nothing can escape
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没有什么能避开光,
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The ignorance we once forgave
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我们的无知被原谅。
10:29
In the future, if we don't decide to change
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若不改变,从今往后,
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The things we cannot save
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有些无法被拯救。
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But it slows to shine upon your face
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缓缓洒向你的脸,
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We owe everything
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我们一切都相欠,
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Everything
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一切、
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Everything
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一切。
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To this rainbow of suffering
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与苦痛的彩虹相欠。
10:57
Light is particle and wave
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光是粒子也是波。
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Refractions of this place
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折射此地,
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Reflections of our grace
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映出恩典。
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It reveals what we hold dear
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它揭示我们一切挂念,
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And it’s slow so I can hold you near
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慢慢攀行,让我好把你抱在身边。
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(Music ends)
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(音乐结束)
11:32
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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There's one thing I know for certain.
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有件事情我相当肯定。
11:41
That we clear the static by being vulnerable
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脆弱和真诚让我们 消除了我们之间的静电。
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and by telling the truth.
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11:48
And here we are doing just that.
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而我们正在付诸行动。
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Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
11:53
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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