What the Fossil Fuel Industry Doesn't Want You To Know | Al Gore | TED

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The most important question these days
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is how can we speed up the solutions to the climate crisis?
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I'm convinced we are going to solve the climate crisis.
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We've got this.
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But the question remains, will we solve it in time?
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Others have said we're kind of in a race.
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I'll give you the the shortest definition of the problem.
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If I was going to give a one-slide slide show, it would be this slide.
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That's the troposphere, the lowest part of the atmosphere.
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And you already know why it's blue.
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That's the oxygen that refracts the blue light.
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And if you could drive a car at highway speed straight up in the air,
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you'd get to the top of that blue line in about five to seven minutes.
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You could walk it in an hour.
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And all of the greenhouse gas pollution is below you.
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That's what we're using as an open sewer.
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That's the problem.
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And it's causing a lot of second and third order consequences.
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And we saw some of them in the northern-tier cities,
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including Detroit.
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This one's from New York City, all the fires in Canada.
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And we have gotten used to the fact that the world suffers deep droughts
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and huge rain bombs and downpours and floods simultaneously.
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The really ingenious new gravity-measuring satellite
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has given us, for the first time,
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the opportunity to see how this plays out worldwide.
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We get these huge surpluses of water,
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the rain bombs and the drought simultaneously.
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And as you can see, the amplitude is increasing.
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And at both ends of our planet right now, we're seeing signs of distress.
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Of course, you know, I've often said,
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every night on the TV news is like a nature hike
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through the Book of Revelation.
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And just today,
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big flooding in Montpelier, Vermont,
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in southern Japan, in India.
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And I haven't done a complete scan,
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but every single day, it's like that.
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But in Antarctica,
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some scientists who are normally pretty levelheaded
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are getting a little bit freaked out, I would say, is a fair definition,
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about the lowest level ever, at this point in the year, of sea ice.
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And at the other pole, in the North Atlantic,
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we're seeing literally off-the-charts temperatures.
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So obviously, the crisis has to be addressed.
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And the good news is, as others have often said,
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we are seeing tremendous progress.
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And it starts with the Inflation Reduction Act here in the United States.
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President Biden, the Congress, they have passed the best,
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biggest climate legislation in all of history,
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and it's said to be 369 billion.
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But the heavy lifting is done by tax credits,
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and most of them are open-ended.
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And the early applications already show
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it's going to be well over a trillion dollars,
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maybe 1.2 trillion.
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So this is really good news.
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And one month after that passed,
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Australia changed its government and started changing its laws.
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And it's now a pro-climate nation.
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A month after that, Brazil did the same thing,
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new president, new policies protecting the Amazon.
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And throughout, the European Union has resisted the efforts of Russia
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to blackmail it into supporting
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its sadistic and cruel invasion of Ukraine.
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And there are other signs of success as well.
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China's reached its renewables target five years ahead of time.
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It's still building a lot of coal, but only 50 percent capacity utilization.
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So there is lots of good news.
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But still, in spite of this progress,
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the emissions are still going up.
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And the crisis is still getting worse
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faster than we are deploying the solutions.
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So maybe it's time to look at the obstacles
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that are standing in our way.
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I'm going to focus on two of them this afternoon.
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First of all, the unrelenting opposition from the fossil fuel industry.
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A lot of people think they're on side and trying to help.
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But let me tell you,
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and the activists will all tell you this,
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every piece of legislation, whether it's at the municipal level,
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the regional or provincial level,
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the national level or the international level,
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they're in there with their lobbyists and with their fixers
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and with their revolving-door colleagues
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doing everything they can to slow down progress.
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So speeding up progress means doing something about this.
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They have used fraud on a massive scale.
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They’ve used falsehoods on an industrial scale.
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And they’ve used their legacy political and economic networks,
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lavishly funded,
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to capture the policy-making process in too many countries around the world.
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And the [UN] Secretary General said
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the fossil fuel industry is the polluted heart of the climate crisis.
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Now, that's not to say that the men and women who've worked in fossil fuel
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for the last century and a half are not due our gratitude.
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They are, and they didn't cause this.
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But for decades now, the companies have had the evidence.
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They know the truth, and they consciously decided to lie to publics
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all around the world
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in order to calm down the political momentum
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for doing something about it so they can make more money.
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It's simple as that.
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(Applause)
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And now they have brazenly seized control of the COP process,
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especially this year's COP in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.
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And concern has been building about this for quite some time.
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I remember when there were so many fossil fuel delegates in Madrid,
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but by the time we got to Glasgow a year and a half ago,
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the delegates from the fossil fuel companies
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made up a larger group than the largest national delegation.
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And why? Why?
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Because they're helping?
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They're not helping, they're trying to stop progress.
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And last year in Egypt,
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they had more delegates than the combined delegations
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of the ten most affected countries by climate.
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And now this year's host, which is a petro state,
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has appointed the president of COP28,
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in spite of the fact that he has a blatant conflict of interest,
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he's the CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company
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owned by Abu Dhabi.
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Their emissions are larger than those of ExxonMobil,
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and they have no credible plan whatsoever to reduce them.
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So this is the person in charge of the COP.
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He's a nice guy.
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He's a smart guy.
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But a conflict of interest is a conflict of interest.
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And a matter of fact,
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they have a plan now to have a new increase in their emissions.
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Their plan is to increase the production of both oil and gas
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by as much as 50 percent by 2030.
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Which is the same time frame
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when the world is trying to reduce emissions,
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by 50 percent by 2030.
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And the same person has been put in charge of both of those efforts.
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Direct conflict of interest.
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I think it's time to say,
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wait a minute, do you take us for fools?
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Do you think you can just completely remove the disguise and we won't notice?
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The fossil fuel industry has captured this process and is slowing it down.
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And we need to do something about it.
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Now, they plan to increase their emissions --
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(Applause)
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Getting all hot and bothered here.
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(Laughter)
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The head of the International Energy Agency was talking
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about several oil companies
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who have publicly pledged to increase their oil and gas
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and simultaneously pledged to comply with the Paris Agreement.
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Do you take us for fools?
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You cannot do both of those things simultaneously.
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And if you think we believe you when you say that,
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we beg to differ.
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Last year at the COP,
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the fossil fuel petro states vetoed
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any mention of phasing down fossil fuels.
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They say, oh, that's not the problem.
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One of the secretary of state equivalent in Saudi Arabia
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said, we don't see this as a discussion about fossil fuels.
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Let me tell you,
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the climate crisis is a fossil fuel crisis.
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The solutions are going to come from a discussion
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and collaboration about phasing out fossil fuels.
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And there's only so much longer they can hold this up
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and tie us down and keep us from doing the right thing.
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Now the director general of this year's COP,
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working under Sultan Al Jaber, he worked for ADNOC also,
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he was seconded for several years to ExxonMobil.
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He said, no, that’s all changed. This year, they’ve changed.
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The fossil fuel companies are really engaging us.
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They have changed.
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Yes, they have changed.
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They've changed for the worse this year.
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You don't believe me?
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Look at this, BP.
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They said, "We're going to net zero, there's no turning back."
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A few months ago this year, they turned back
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and they decided to roll back their investments.
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ExxonMobil.
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Oh, my God.
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This is minor compared to their industrial-scale lying, you know.
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But they've had all the TV ads on, particularly in the US,
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about revolutionizing biofuels.
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"You wouldn't believe what algae can do."
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Well, for 14 years they ran this program.
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And they spent 50 percent as much on the ads about the program
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as they did on actually trying to come up with new biofuels.
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And then a couple of months ago, they said, "Oh, we've changed our mind.
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We're just going to cancel that program."
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The industry as a whole
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has not been acting in good faith.
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Shell reversed its commitment to increase their investments in fossil fuels.
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They announced just a couple of months ago they're going to plow that money
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into expanding oil and gas production instead.
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So did they miss the memo?
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Well, no, they say they've discovered a way out.
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They're telling us now that the problem is not fossil fuels.
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It's the emissions from fossil fuels.
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And so all we have to do is to capture the emissions from the fossil fuels.
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Now, I'm all for research and development
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into trying to capture emissions
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or sucking it out of the air if they want to do that.
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But let's don't pretend it's for real.
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Maybe someday it will be.
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Maybe someday it will be.
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(Applause)
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This is the head of ExxonMobil saying, "Not oil and gas,
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it's the emissions."
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And Abu Dhabi,
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they have said they've already decreased their emissions
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from producing oil and gas, 99.2 percent.
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The point two makes it sound even more authoritative.
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(Laughter)
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Is that feasible?
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Have they really done that?
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Is their carbon capture technology that’s that good?
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Well, Climate TRACE can measure.
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Now, let's just look.
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There's their CCS capability.
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Oh, but they've got a great improvement in the work.
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Seven years from now,
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they're going to have a 500 percent increase in their capacity.
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But here are the emissions from oil and gas production alone.
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And here are the emissions of greenhouse gases
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from Abu Dhabi, from the UAE.
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Now, the pathetic little sliver there
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compared to the reality, again,
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do they think we don't see what they're doing,
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don't understand what they're doing?
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A lot of people maybe just want to look away from it.
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Pretty ironic here in this country.
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You know, the coal-burning utilities
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have been given a new mandate this year by the EPA.
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You've got to clean up your act.
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Now, you can keep on burning coal
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and you can keep on producing electricity with it
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if you use carbon capture and sequestration.
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Well, they scream bloody murder.
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Another story about it this morning,
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but they say, that technology?
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That's not feasible.
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It's not technically feasible, not economically feasible.
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So they need to get their story straight, in my opinion.
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So the technology of CCS
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has been around for a long time, 50 years,
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and we get used to technologies automatically getting cheaper and better,
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you know, with the computer chips and the cell phones and all that.
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Well, University of Oxford did a whole study,
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and some come down in cost fast, some slow.
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A few are in a category called non-improving technologies.
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And that’s where carbon capture and storage is.
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50 years, not any price decline.
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Well, could we get a breakthrough in spite of that?
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Maybe.
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We're throwing a lot of money at it.
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We had to do that to get the compromise that passed the IRA,
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and we ought to continue the research.
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But again, let's don't pretend that it's here.
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It's not here now.
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And to use it as an excuse, and now they've got another one.
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Now it's called direct air capture.
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These are giant vacuum cleaners that use an awful lot of energy.
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It's technically feasible, but it's extremely expensive.
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And it also uses so much energy.
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But it is tremendously useful.
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You know what it's used for?
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The CEO of one of the largest oil companies in the US
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had told us what it's useful for.
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It's useful to give them an excuse for not ever stopping oil.
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A few months later, she said,
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"This gives us, this new technology, a license to continue operating."
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Some people call that a moral hazard.
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For them, the moral hazard is not a bug,
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it's a feature, as the old saying goes.
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And so let's just look, this is state-of-the-art.
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It looks pretty impressive, doesn't it?
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This is the backside of one of these machines.
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(Laughter)
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I had the same thought.
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(Laughter)
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Now this, they're improving this.
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(Applause)
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They're improving this.
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And the new model, seven years from now,
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each of these machines is going to be able
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to capture 27 seconds' worth of annual emissions.
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Woohoo.
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That gives them a license to continue producing more
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and more oil and gas.
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Or so they claim.
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Well, they also say, the experts,
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that in order to be economically feasible,
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it has to come in at 100 dollars a ton or less.
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The leading company says that 27 years from now,
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it may come down below three times that amount.
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So again, if this sounds kind of incredible,
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it is not credible.
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But they're using it in order to gaslight us, literally.
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But I didn't mean it as a pun, but that's what they're using it to do.
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And we can't fall for it.
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The biggest obstacle to direct air capture is probably physics.
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And what I mean by that, they've explained this to me.
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CO2 makes up 0.035 percent of the air
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so we're going to vacuum the other 99.96 percent
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to get that little bit out.
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Come on, really?
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Come on.
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And it doesn't even pretend to catch the methane or the soot
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or the mercury or the particulate pollution
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that kills 9 million people a year around the world.
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And that's why the climate justice advocates
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are so down on this kind of nonsense.
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They say, here's one of them says, look, we need to fight climate change,
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but don't do it by pretending to do it and continue dumping all this pollution
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on the front line communities that are downwind from the smokestacks.
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And that's why they have not ever really liked the carbon capture.
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And what about all the energy that's needed?
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Is it going to come from more fossil fuels?
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Well, in case of Occidental, yes.
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But could it come from more solar and wind?
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Well, if so, why not use the solar and wind
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to replace the fossil fuel-burning plants
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that are putting all that stuff up there in the first place?
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Doesn't that make sense?
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Am I missing something?
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(Applause)
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Anyway, this is the environmental justice advocate who is making the point
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that you can't do it without protecting those who are victimized
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downwind from the smokestacks, downstream from the pollution.
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Now, some of the companies, of course,
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you say we're going to offset our emissions.
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And again, offsets can play a role, a small role,
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five to 10 percent according to the Science Based Targets initiative,
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the most authoritative source on all of this.
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But, you know, Chevron just had its offsets analyzed.
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It turned out 93 percent of them were worthless and junk.
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And that's too often the case.
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It's not a get-out-of-jail-free card.
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And their offsets were only aimed at 10 percent of their emissions
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in the first place.
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Eighty percent of the fossil fuel companies
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just completely ignore the Scope Three emissions,
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which is the main part of their pollution problem.
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So they say that they have increased by 400 percent
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the share of their spending on energy
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that goes to green technologies and carbon capture.
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And yes, they have, they've increased it all the way up to four percent.
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And it's not even as good as that,
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because if you look at the windfall profits they've been getting,
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what have they done with that?
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Well, they gave it back to the shareholders
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through dividends and stock buybacks.
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So the amount of money
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the fossil fuel industry is investing in renewables
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and carbon capture is one percent.
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Does that mean they are sincere actors, working in good faith?
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I don't think so.
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A lot of people still think so.
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They think they're on our side.
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I don't think it's in their nature to be on our side.
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I think they're driven by incentives that push them in the opposite direction.
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But in any case,
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they produce no solutions whatsoever that are scalable
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or remotely feasible.
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And again, they have actively fought
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against the solutions that others have been trying to bring.
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I've seen it personally.
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Many of you have seen it personally.
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And it's happening all over the world.
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No progress.
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They've even gone backwards.
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Now, if a company says, look,
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we shouldn't be excluded from the COP process,
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we know a lot about energy.
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Here's a simple test.
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Do they actually have,
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does the company have real net-zero commitments,
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a genuine phase-down plan,
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yes or no?
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Are they committed to full disclosure?
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Yes or no?
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Are they going to spend windfall profits on the transition?
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Yes or no?
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Are they committed to transparency?
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Will they end their anti-climate lobbying?
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Will they end their greenwashing?
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Will they be in favor of reforming the COP process
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so that the petro states don't have an absolute veto
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on anything the world wants to discuss or act on?
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We've got to change that.
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In order to move faster,
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we have got to empower the global community
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in a way that frees them from the hammerlock
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that the fossil fuel companies have on them today.
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And any company that doesn't pass this test,
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I'm telling you,
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ought to be prohibited from taking part in the COP process.
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(Cheers and applause)
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What about the company that's led by the president of this year's COP,
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the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company?
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Well, it's rated one of the least responsible
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of all the oil and gas companies.
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It no longer even releases information
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on any of its emissions, has no transition plan,
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no short or mid-term target scores,
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a pathetic three on 100-scale on their transition plans.
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And the nation's plan is rated highly insufficient.
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They just put out a new one, it's still insufficient.
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So that's the first obstacle.
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Second one's a lot clearer.
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This one has to be removed in order to get to the faster solutions.
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But in order to remove it,
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we've got to do something about the second obstacle,
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and that is the financial system,
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the global allocation of capital and the subsidies for fossil fuels.
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Governments last year around the world subsidized with taxpayer money
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more than a trillion dollars, subsidizing fossil fuels.
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That's five times larger than the amount in 2020.
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Are we going in the right direction or the wrong direction?
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Well, there are a lot of good things I'll show you,
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but this has to stop.
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And the 60 largest global banks
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have put 5.5 trillion extra dollars
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into the fossil fuel companies since the Paris agreement.
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And preposterously, 49 of them have also signed net-zero pledges.
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So we ...
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Global allocation of capital.
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The borrowing of private capital is ruled out
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for many developing countries.
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Nigeria has to pay an interest rate seven times higher
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than Europe or the US.
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Political risk, corruption risk, currency risk, off-take risk,
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it's rule of law risk.
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That's why the World Bank and the other multilateral development banks
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are supposed to take those top layers of risk off.
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And that's why we need reform in the World Bank.
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Thank goodness so many fought to get a new head of the World Bank,
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and I'm very excited about his progress.
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Now, when these obstacles are removed, we can really accelerate progress.
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They'll still be problems, of course,
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but we have everything we need
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and proven deployment models to reduce emissions 50 percent
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in the next seven years.
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But we will still need better grids,
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more resilient grids, more solar and wind,
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much more regenerative agriculture.
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That's a way to really pull carbon out of the air.
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More electric vehicles and charging stations
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and more energy storage.
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I'll show you that just before we quit here.
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And more green hydrogen, so more electrolyzers to produce it.
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And these are all surmountable obstacles.
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Already, renewables account for 90 percent
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of all the new electricity generation being installed each year worldwide.
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Ninety-three percent solar and wind in India last year.
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And of course, the solar's taking off and so is wind
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and so are the electric vehicles and battery storage.
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It has grown so dramatically.
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You’ve got to rescale the graph to look at the trillion-dollar industry emerging.
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Now, just seven years ago, there was one gigafactory.
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I learned from one of you at a session a couple of hours ago
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and had my staff research it,
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there are now 195 gigafactories and another 300 in the pipeline.
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So will we succeed?
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Some people fight with a vulnerability to despair.
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You know, the old cliche, “denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.”
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Despair ain’t just a tire in the trunk.
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There are people that are vulnerable.
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But let me close with what I regard as amazingly good news.
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What if we could stop the increase in temperatures?
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Well, if you look at the temperature increases,
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if we get to true net-zero,
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astonishingly, global temperatures will stop going up
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with a lag time of as little as three to five years.
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They used to think that positive feedback loops would keep that process going.
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No, it will not.
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The temperatures will stop going up.
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The ice will continue melting and some other things will continue,
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but we can stop the increase of temperatures.
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Even better, if we stay at true net zero, in as little as 30 years,
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half of all the human-caused CO2 will come out of the atmosphere
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into the upper ocean and the trees and vegetation.
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So young people are demanding that we do the right thing.
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Do not be vulnerable to despair.
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We are going to do this.
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And if you doubt that we, as human beings have the will to act,
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please always remember
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that the will to act is itself a renewable resource.
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Thank you very much.
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(Cheers and applause)
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Thank you.
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