You may be accidentally investing in cigarette companies | Bronwyn King

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In 2001, I was a brand new, shiny doctor, planning to save the world.
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My first job was working for three months on a lung cancer unit.
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Nearly all of my patients were smokers or ex-smokers,
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and most of them had started smoking when they were children
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or in their early teens.
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And despite living in a beautiful, wealthy country,
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with access to the most sophisticated medicines,
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nearly every single one of my patients died.
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Everyone knows tobacco is bad,
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but when you see the impact firsthand, day-by-day,
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it leaves a very deep impression.
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Ten years later, I'm a radiation oncologist,
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fully aware of the suffering caused by tobacco.
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I'm sitting at the hospital cafeteria, having my first ever meeting
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with a representative from my superannuation fund.
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It was thrilling, I'm sure you can imagine.
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(Laughter)
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He tells me I'm in the default option.
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And I said, "Option? Does that mean there are other options?"
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He looked at me, rolled his eyes, and said,
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"Well, there is this one greenie option
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for people who have a problem with investing in mining, alcohol or tobacco."
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I said, "Did you just say tobacco?"
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He said, "Yes."
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I said, "So, are you telling me I'm currently investing in tobacco?"
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And he said, "Oh, yes, everyone is."
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When you invest in a company, you own part of that company.
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You want that company to grow and succeed and thrive.
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You want that company to attract new customers,
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you want that company to sell more of its products.
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And when it comes to tobacco,
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I couldn't think of anything that I wanted less.
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Now, I know you can only see one person standing here
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on this big red dot, on this enormous stage.
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But instead, I would like you to imagine
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that you're looking at seven million people
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crammed up here beside me today.
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Seven million people across the world have died as a result of tobacco
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in the past year alone.
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Just imagine, if a brand new industry were launched today,
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and by the end of next June,
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that industry's products had killed seven million people.
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Would any of us invest in that new, deadly industry?
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Tobacco is one of the most pressing global issues of our time,
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and most of us are far more complicit in the problem than we may realize.
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So, the super fund representative explained to me
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that tobacco companies would be found
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in the international shares portion of my portfolio.
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So I asked him, "Well, which international shares do I have?"
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He got back to me two weeks later with this list:
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my number one holding in international shares
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was British American Tobacco.
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Number two, Imperial Tobacco.
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Number four, Philip Morris.
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And number five, the Swedish Match company.
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Four of the top five companies were tobacco companies,
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my investments, an oncologist.
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And then I realized it wasn't just me.
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It was all members of my super fund.
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And then I realized it wasn't just my super fund, it was all of them.
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And then I realized, it wasn't just superannuation funds,
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it was banks, insurers and fund managers.
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And then I realized it wasn't just Australia.
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It was the entire global finance sector,
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completely tangled up with the tobacco industry.
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The industry that makes products that kill seven million people every year.
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So I started discussing the issue with my superannuation fund,
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and I've been discussing it ever since.
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Finance leaders have many challenging issues to deal with, these days.
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So I suggest they adopt a framework
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that clearly articulates why it is reasonable
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to take a strong position on tobacco.
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I suggest finance leaders ask a suite of three questions
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of any company in which they might invest our money.
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Question one:
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Can the product made by the company be used safely?
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"No" is the answer for tobacco companies.
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Zero is the only safe number of cigarettes for a human being.
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It could not be more black and white.
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Question two:
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Is the problem caused by the company so significant on a global level
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that it is subject to a UN treaty or convention?
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"Yes" is the answer for tobacco.
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Indeed there is a UN tobacco treaty
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that has been ratified by 180 countries.
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The treaty was created
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because of the catastrophic global impact of tobacco.
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The current forecast is that the world is on track
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for one billion tobacco-related deaths this century.
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One billion deaths.
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There's only seven billion of us.
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Question three relates to the concept of engagement.
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Many financial organizations genuinely want to be good corporate citizens.
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They want to use their shareholder power
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to sit down with companies, engage with them,
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and encourage them to do better things.
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So the question is:
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Can engagement with the company be an effective lever for change?
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"No" is the answer for tobacco companies.
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Engagement with the tobacco industry is futile.
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The only acceptable outcome would be
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if tobacco companies ceased their primary business.
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In fact, engagement with the tobacco industry
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has never led to less human death.
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When we consider that framework, three simple questions,
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we can see that is reasonable and defensible
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to take a strong position and exclude investment in the tobacco industry.
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In addition to the UN tobacco treaty,
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there is, in fact, another global treaty that demands that we act on tobacco.
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In 2015, the UN adopted the Sustainable Development Goals.
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Now, we're talking about tobacco,
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and I know you're going to jump straight to number three:
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good health and well-being.
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And indeed, ramping up tobacco control regulation
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is essential if we're going to achieve that goal.
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However, look a bit more deeply,
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and you will find that 13 of the 17 goals cannot be achieved
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unless there is a major shake-up of the tobacco industry.
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Personally, my favorite goal is number 17:
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partnerships for the goals.
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At present, we have the entire global health sector doing everything it can
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to help the tidal wave of patients suffering as a result of tobacco.
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But that said, in the past year alone, seven million people have died,
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so clearly, that is not enough.
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We also have governments aligned on tobacco, 180 of them,
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busily trying to implement the provisions of the UN tobacco treaty.
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But that, too, is not enough.
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If the global finance sector continues to lend money to tobacco companies,
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to invest in tobacco companies,
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and to strive to profit from tobacco companies,
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we are working against each other.
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Now, if we are going to disrupt
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what doctors call "the global tobacco epidemic,"
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we need every sector of society to stand side by side
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and be part of the solution.
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So I call on finance leaders
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to implement a framework to deal with sensitive issues.
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And I call on them to uphold global conventions.
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But in addition, there are business risks.
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Pure financial risks, associated with being invested in the tobacco industry
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over the long term,
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and I ask finance leaders to consider them.
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The first risk is that fewer and fewer people will smoke,
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as a result of increasing tobacco regulation.
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When these warnings were put on cigarette packets in Canada,
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[Tobacco can make you impotent]
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the first response of smokers was to give them right back to the salespeople
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and say, "Could you please just give me the ones that say they'll kill me?"
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(Laughter)
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Regulation gets noticed, regulation reduces consumption,
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and we have 180 countries committed to more regulation.
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Let's talk about litigation and the risk that presents.
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At present, it's the business model of the tobacco industry
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that is being challenged.
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Currently, the tobacco industry externalizes all of the health costs
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associated with tobacco.
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Governments pay, communities pay, you pay, I pay.
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The tobacco industry externalizes all those costs,
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with an estimated one trillion US dollars per year.
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Yet they internalize and privatize the profits.
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In 2015, in Quebec province,
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the courts determined that the tobacco industry
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was indeed responsible for those health costs,
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and ordered them to pay 15 billion US dollars.
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That case is under appeal.
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But it begs the question, why should any of us, in any country,
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be paying for the costs of the tobacco industry?
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Let's move on to supply chain and the risk there.
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It is not well known
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that the tobacco industry significantly relies on child labor.
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In March 2017, the International Labour Organization
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issued a report which stated:
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"In tobacco-growing communities, child labor is rampant."
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The US Department of Labor
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currently lists 16 countries that use children to produce tobacco leaf.
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Scrutiny of supply chains is intensifying,
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and that cannot continue to escape public attention.
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Finally, there is also reputation risk to consider
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for individuals and organizations that continue to maintain an affiliation
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with the tobacco industry.
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In countless surveys,
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the tobacco industry ranks as the world's least reputable industry.
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Let's just look at the impact on children.
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Globally, every single day,
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it is estimated that 100,000 children start smoking.
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That's enough children to fit inside the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
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And most of those children are from the poorest communities on earth.
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Here in Australia, the average age that people start smoking
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is 16 years and two months.
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They look pretty young to me, but the worst thing here
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is that while we don't have data from every country on earth,
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we believe that is the oldest age.
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Everywhere else is younger.
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Now for the good news.
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Things are changing.
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The finance sector is coming to the party.
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After around 2,000 meetings with finance leaders,
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primarily in the cafés of Melbourne and Sydney
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and London and Paris and New York and all across the globe,
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momentum, moving away from investment in the tobacco industry,
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is starting to snowball.
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Finance leaders are alarmed when they're presented with the facts,
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and overwhelmingly, they want to be part of the solution.
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Here, in Australia, we now have
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10,636,101 superannuation accounts
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that are tobacco-free.
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That one is mine, by the way.
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(Applause)
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There is still a lot of work to be done,
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but I've watched the conversation go from "Should we go tobacco-free?"
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to "Why haven't we done it yet?"
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In the past year alone,
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major tobacco-free moves have been made by leading financial organizations
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in eight different countries.
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In Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Sweden,
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Denmark, France, Ireland and the USA.
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By sovereign wealth funds, fund managers, pension funds,
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banks, insurers and reinsurers.
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Since tobacco-free portfolios began,
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more than six billion dollars has been redirected
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away from investment in the tobacco industry.
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The case study is well and truly proven.
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When making the tobacco-free announcement in March this year,
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the CEO of AMP Capital said,
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"We are not prepared to deliver investment returns
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at any cost to society."
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And that is the question we need to ask ourselves.
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Is there no baseline standard below which we will not sink
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to make profit?
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Along the way, I've had a lot of help and incredible support.
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Now, if you're trying to do something,
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I highly recommend that you have a princess on your team.
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Her Royal Highness, Princess Dina Mired,
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is the global ambassador for this work.
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We also have a lord, a knight, a former premier,
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a former federal minister and a stack of CEOs.
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But the capacity to change things
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does not rest exclusively with these highly influential people.
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The power to do that is with all of us.
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Everyone here can be part of the solution.
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In fact, everyone here must be part of the solution.
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Most people in this room own companies
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via their superannuation funds, their banks and their insurers.
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And it is time for us to ask them:
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Are they investing our money in companies that make products
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that kill seven million people every year?
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It's your money.
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It's my money, it's our money.
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And that is a very reasonable question.
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Pretty cramped up here,
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with seven million people beside me today.
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But if we don't act now, and act together,
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we'll need to make way for one billion people
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before the end of this century.
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And this is a very big stage.
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But there is no more room.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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