3 ways to upgrade democracy for the 21st century | Max Rashbrooke

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(Māori) Kia ora koutou, everyone.
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I want to you today about democracy,
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about the struggles that it's experiencing,
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and the fact that all of us together in this room
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might be the solution.
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But before I get onto that,
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I want to take a little detour into the past.
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This is a picture from Athens,
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or more specifically, it's a picture of a place called the Pnyx,
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which is where, about two and a half thousand years ago,
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the ancient Greeks, the ancient Athenians,
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gathered to take all their major political decisions together.
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I say the ancient Athenians.
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In fact, it was only the men.
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Actually, it was only the free, resident, property-owning men.
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But with all those failings,
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it was still a revolutionary idea:
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that ordinary people were capable of dealing
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with the biggest issues of the time
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and didn't need to rely on a single supposedly superior ruler.
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It was, you know, it was a way of doing things,
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it was a political system.
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It was, you could say, a democratic technology appropriate to the time.
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Fast-forward to the 19th century
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when democracy was having another flourishing moment
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and the democratic technology that they were using then
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was representative democracy.
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The idea that you have to elect a bunch of people --
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gentlemen, in the picture here, all gentlemen, at the time, of course --
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you had to elect them to look after your best interests.
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And if you think about the conditions of the time,
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the fact that it was impossible to gather everybody together physically,
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and of course they didn’t have the means to gather everyone together virtually,
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it was again a kind of democratic technology
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appropriate to the time.
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Fast-forward again to the 21st century.
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And we're living through what's internationally known
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as the crisis of democracy.
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What I would call the crisis of representative democracy,
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the sense that people are falling out of love with this
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as a way of getting things done,
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that it's not fundamentally working.
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And we see this crisis take many forms in many different countries.
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So in the UK,
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you see a country that now at times looks almost ungovernable.
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In places like Hungary and Turkey,
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you see very frighteningly authoritarian leaders being elected.
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In places like New Zealand,
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we see it in the nearly one million people
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who could have voted at the last general election,
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but who chose not to.
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Now these kinds of struggles,
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these sort of crises of democracy have many roots, of course,
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but for me, one of the biggest ones
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is that we haven't upgraded our democratic technology.
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We're still far too reliant on the systems
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that we inherited from the 19th and from the 20th century.
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And we know this because in survey after survey
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people tell us, they say,
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“We don’t think that we’re getting a fair share of decision-making power,
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decisions happen somewhere else."
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They say, “We don’t think the current systems
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and our government
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genuinely deliver on the common good,
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the interests that we share as citizens."
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They say, “We’re much less deferential than ever before,
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and we expect more than ever before,
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and we want more than ever before
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to be engaged in the big political decisions that affect us.”
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And they know
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that our systems of democracy have just not kept pace
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with either the expectations
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or the potential of the 21st century.
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And for me, what that suggests
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is that we need a really significant upgrade of our systems of democracy.
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That doesn't mean we throw out everything that's working about the current system,
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because we will always need representatives
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to carry out some of the complex work of running the modern world.
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But it does mean a bit more Athens
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and a bit less Victorian England.
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And it also means a big shift towards what's generally called
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everyday democracy.
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And it gets this name
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because it's about finding ways of bringing democracy closer to people,
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giving us more meaningful opportunities to be involved in it,
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giving us a sense that we're not just part of government
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on one day, every few years when we vote,
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but we're part of it every other day of the year.
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Now that everyday democracy has two key qualities
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that I've seen prove their worth time and again,
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in the research that I've done.
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The first is participation
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because it's only if we as citizens,
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as much as possible,
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get involved in the decisions that affect us,
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that we'll actually get the kind of politics that we need,
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that we'll actually get our common good served.
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The second important quality is deliberation.
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And that's just a fancy way of saying high-quality public discussion,
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because its all very well people participating,
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but it's only when we come together and we listen to each other,
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we engage with the evidence, and reflect on our own views,
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that we genuinely bring to the surface the wisdom and the ideas
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that would otherwise remain scattered and isolated
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amongst us as a group.
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It's only then that the crowd really becomes smarter than the individual.
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So if we ask what could this abstract idea,
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this everyday democracy actually look like in practice,
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the great thing is we don't even have to use our imaginations
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because these things are already happening in pockets around the world.
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One of my favorite quotes comes from the science fiction writer,
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William Gibson, who once said,
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"The future's already here,
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it's just unevenly spread."
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So what I want to do is share with you three things
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from this unevenly spread future that I'm really excited about
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in terms of upgrading the system of democracy that we work with.
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Three components of that potential democratic upgrade.
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And the first of them is the citizens assembly.
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And the idea here is that a polling company is contracted by government
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to draw up, say, a hundred citizens
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who are perfectly representative of the country as a whole.
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So perfectly representative in terms of age, gender,
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ethnicity, income level and so on.
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And these people are brought together over a period of weekends or a week,
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paid for their time
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and asked to discuss an issue of crucial public importance.
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They're given training
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on how to discuss issues well with each other,
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which we'll all know of course, from our experiences of arguing online,
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if nowhere else,
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is not an ability that we're all born with innately,
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more’s the pity.
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In the citizens assembly,
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people are also put in front of evidence and the experts,
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and they're given time to discuss the issue deeply
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with their fellow citizens
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and come to a state of consensus recommendations.
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So these kinds of assemblies have been used in places like Canada,
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where they were used to draw up
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a new national action plan on mental health
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for the whole country.
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A citizens assembly was used recently in Melbourne
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to basically lay the foundation
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of a new 10-year financial plan for the whole city.
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So these assemblies can have real teeth, real weight.
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The second key element of the democratic upgrade:
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participatory budgeting.
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The idea here is that a local council or a city council
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takes its budget for spending on new buildings, new services,
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and says,
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we're going to put a chunk of this up for the public to decide,
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but only after you've argued the issues over carefully with each other.
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And so the process starts at the neighborhood level.
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You have people meeting together in community halls, in basketball courts,
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making the trade-offs,
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saying, "Well, are we going to spend that money on a new health center,
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or are we going to spend it on safety improvements to a local road?"
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People using their expertise in their own lives.
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Those discussions are then pushed up to the suburb or ward level,
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and then again, to the city level
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and in full view of the public,
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the public themselves makes the final allocation of that budget.
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And in the city where this all originated,
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Porto Alegre in Brazil,
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a place with about a million inhabitants,
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as many as 50,000 people get engaged in that process every year.
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The third element of the upgrade:
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online consensus forming.
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In Taiwan a few years ago, when Uber arrived on their shores,
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the government immediately launched an online discussion process
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using a piece of software called Polis,
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which is also coincidentally, or not coincidentally,
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what the ancient Athenians call themselves
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when they were making their collective decisions.
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And the way Polis works is it groups people together,
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and then using machine learning and a bunch of other techniques,
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it encourages good discussion amongst those participating.
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It allows them to put up proposals, which are then discussed,
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knocked back, refined,
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until they reach something like 80 percent consensus.
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And in the time, in this case, within about four weeks,
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this process had yielded six recommendations
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for how people wanted to see Uber regulated.
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And those, almost all of them,
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were immediately picked up by the government
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and accepted by Uber.
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Now I find these examples really inspiring.
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People sometimes ask me why I'm an optimist
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and a large part of the answer
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is these kinds of innovations,
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because I think they,
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you know, they're really show us that we can have a kind of politics
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which is deeply responsive to our needs as citizens,
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but which avoids the peril of the threats to human liberties,
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the threats to civil liberties
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that authoritarian populism descends into.
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They show us that even though we live in what looks like quite a dark time,
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there are things that act a bit like emergency lighting,
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guiding us towards something better.
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And although these are all ideas from the Western tradition,
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they can also be combined with, adapted by Indigenous traditions
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that also value turn-taking in speech and consensus decision-making.
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And the thread that binds all these traditions together
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is essentially a faith in other people.
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A faith in people's ability to handle difficult decisions,
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a faith in people's ability to come together
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and make political decisions intelligently.
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In the Polis example,
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we see that government can be agile and nimble
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in the face of tech disruption.
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In the participatory budgeting,
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we see that we can build systems
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that are disproportionately used by poor people
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and which deliver infrastructure
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that is better quality than the traditional systems.
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In citizens assemblies,
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the experts who observed them time and again,
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say that in those good conditions people's ability to listen to others,
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to engage with the evidence,
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and to shift from their entrenched views is consistently astounding.
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And that's a really, really hopeful finding,
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because, you know, I think we live at a time
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where you see right around the world,
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huge suspicion of other people, of other citizens,
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huge doubts about whether people are really able to bear the burden
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of decision-making that democracy places on them.
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But if you're worried, for instance,
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about whether a lot of people out there,
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you know, are misinformed or fallen prey to online propaganda,
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what better way to push back against that
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than by ensuring that they're placed in forums.
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Forums like the New England town hall meetings shown here.
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Forums where they have to come face-to-face with other people,
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or at least be in close virtual contact,
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where they have to justify their opinions,
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have to deal with the evidence,
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and are encouraged to step away from their prejudices.
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The Canadian philosopher Joseph Heath
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says that rationality,
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our ability to make good decisions,
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isn't something that we achieve as individuals,
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if we achieve it at all.
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It's something we achieve in groups.
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Our best hope of rationality is each other.
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Or to put the thing a different way,
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the problem with democracy is not other people,
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it's not other citizens.
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The problem is the situations in which they -- in which we all --
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have been asked to do our democratic work.
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The problem is the outdated democratic technology
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that we've all been forced to use.
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And so what these examples show to me,
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the reason I find them inspiring,
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is that I think they demonstrate that if you get the situations right,
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if you get the technology upgraded,
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then actually the things that we do when we come together as citizens
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can be astounding,
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and together, we really can build a form of democracy
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that's genuinely fit for the 21st century.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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