Work Is Not Your Family | Gloria Chan Packer | TED

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"We're like family."
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This is a phrase that's become quite popular in our places of work
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to try to make work feel a little less like this
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and a little bit more like this.
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It's a phrase that started in the last decade or two
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to try to elicit feelings of warmth and belonging
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and really that "cool culture" vibe.
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The laid-back break rooms with beanbag chairs and the beer on tap
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and those tight-knit teams that got through everything together
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like a family.
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It's a phrase that started with positive intent
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and has had positive outcome.
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However, what's gone far less recognized and discussed
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is how calling work our family can actually be quite detrimental
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to our mental and emotional health without our knowing it.
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Which is why I'm here today to offer the reminder that work is not your family.
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And to explore how this "cool culture" catchphrase often ends up
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breeding burnout instead.
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My name is Gloria Chan Packer.
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I am a mental wellness educator and an experienced corporate leader.
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In 2018, I founded a company called "Recalibrate"
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to try to deliver workplace mental wellness services
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that were more modern, accessible and science-backed.
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Since that time,
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I and my team have gotten to work with almost 20,000 employees
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all over the world.
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Now, the reason this topic,
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exploring how calling work our family can be problematic and breed burnout,
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the reason it's important to me is because I've personally lived it.
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Before we get into that, though,
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let's first baseline by understanding why calling work our family
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at its core can be problematic.
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Doing so, psychologically infers a really big blur
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and betrayal in our boundaries.
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Work and family are different entities with different goals,
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expectations and responsibilities,
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and therefore should be separated and boundaried.
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For example, I'm not going to be in the shower one day
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and notice a really weird mole on my pregnant belly
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and roll into my boss's office like I would my mom and be like,
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"Hey, can you can you get in here and look at this?
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This looks kind of weird. I'm freaked out."
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A few of us are giggling or laughing,
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but I'm sure a few of us, too, in our heads are like,
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"Oh, have I done something weird like that at work?
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Have I crossed a boundary before?”
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Boundaries are hard for a lot of us
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because many of us never learned boundaries.
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It's kind of a newer, buzzy phrase
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that not many of us really have learned or defined before.
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So let's start by defining what boundaries are
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and why they're so important to our mental health.
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I like to think of boundaries as our ability to identify,
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communicate and take action on our needs.
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Being able to say, "I need to eat,"
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"I need to rest," "I need some space right now."
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Survival speaking, boundaries are critical for us as humans to be able to say,
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"I need something," to be able to find safety and resourcing.
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However, it can also be advantageous in certain situations
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to delay or deprioritize our needs too.
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For example,
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if I'm a human back in the day, running away from a tiger,
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if I happen to be hungry,
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it will, of course, be beneficial to delay that need for hunger
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until I'm safe again.
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However, if, after the tiger has left and I'm safe,
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I keep staying stuck and being scared of the tiger
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and delaying my hunger and not eating,
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that becomes unhealthy too.
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This shift of delaying our needs into the unhealthy without knowing it
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is where a lot of us find ourselves unknowingly stuck today.
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Somewhere in our lives we learned and adapted
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that repressing or sacrificing our needs for others was beneficial.
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But that became so auto-piloted in our subconscious
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that it goes past the point of diminishing returns
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and becomes unhealthy.
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To where maybe we land into a workplace and we hear "we're like family"
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and our brain just triggers into "give it everything no matter what."
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We sacrifice our boundaries, our time, our relationships,
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and we start living life in these big swings of overworking to burnout.
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And maybe we rationally know that it's not the healthiest pattern in our life,
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but we feel stuck.
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I get that.
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I've lived through that and sometimes still feel challenged with it.
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You see, before I worked in mental wellness,
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you could argue that I worked in the opposite of mental wellness.
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I started my career in management and technology consulting,
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spending almost a decade giving it my all.
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I did the 80 to 100 hour billing weeks,
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the 100-plus fights a year, for years on end,
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the early promotion chase
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and didn't scale back on other parts of my life either.
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Still volunteered, went to my SoulCycle classes
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did brunch and late nights with my friends
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until my completely overscoped life turned into burnout cycle
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after burnout cycle.
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In 2017, my brain and body hit a wall.
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I started struggling with debilitating, chronic migraines
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that, for me,
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meant that after months of no change
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and no medication or treatment working,
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I knew I had to take at least a leave from work.
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And that was devastating for me
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because work had really become my everything.
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There is a memory that haunts me from that time.
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And it was the night before I was about to go on leave,
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and I was just grabbing dinner with a friend and my husband.
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And I said to my friend,
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"Work is my entire worth and my identity.
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I don't know what I'm going to do without it."
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And my husband's body language and face dropped
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in a way that I had never seen it.
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And after my friend left, I remember him saying to me,
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"I can't believe that you think that work is your only worth
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when I see so much more.
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And I can't believe you can't see that either."
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It's a poignant memory for me because I remember it feeling so true.
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And now I know it's not.
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But it was a really rough period.
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It's such an important one in my life because it gave me the opportunity
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to do my own mental health work
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and understand where these burnout behaviors had come from for me,
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so that now I could grow into being able to discern
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when those behaviors are healthy or unhealthy.
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For me, where those behaviors started and were adopted
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is that I grew up learning that I needed to be perfect
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and to people please and be the best at everything
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so that I could get myself out of a situation
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that I felt like I otherwise wouldn't be able to make it through.
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For me,
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that perfectionism and people-pleasing was so critical to that point in my life.
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But then when I just put it on autopilot,
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it went way past the point of diminishing returns
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and often became unhealthy for me.
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That's my story.
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Let's spend some time getting to know yours.
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I'm going to invite you to do a little bit of reflection activity with me
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as you're comfortable,
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if you can all just close your eyes wherever you are.
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And with your eyes closed,
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I'm going to ask you to start to bring to mind a part of you
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that tends to overwork,
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to be a perfectionist or a people-pleaser,
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struggles to set boundaries.
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When I ask what it would be like
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if you tone that part of you back a little.
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Just let that go a little.
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For the piece of you that pops up with some tension or resistance,
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let's lean into that and ask, why not?
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What would happen? What would go wrong?
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Would things go wrong, the other shoe would finally drop,
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and it'd be all your fault?
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Would you lose success?
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Would you not have anything to talk about in conversation to feel worthy anymore?
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Then let's practice some curiosity
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around where you might have first adapted or learned this.
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When it might have helped or protected you in life.
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Did you learn early on you had to be perfect
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to avoid shame or discipline?
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Or when you were young,
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did you learn you had to be overly self-reliant,
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you had to take care of everything and everyone
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because your caretaker couldn't.
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Or maybe later in life,
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in college,
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did you learn it was worth sacrificing whatever you needed
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to get that win or accolade,
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maybe to make up for not feeling accepted earlier in life?
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See what it would be to speak to that part of yourself and say,
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"Thank you so much for making this adaptation.
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You helped me through such an important time,
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but right now, I don't need you to be on the clock all the time anymore.
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I have a beautiful life that I've built with safety and stability,
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and I have people in my life that love me for who I am
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and not what I do.
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You can take a breather so I can to."
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As you're ready,
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just gently opening your eyes back up
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and coming back into the room with me.
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Welcome back.
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So part of that reflection activity
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is an example of what we would technically call
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identifying our cognitive schemas.
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Our cognitive schemas are essentially how our brain forms
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all of our subconscious behaviors, patterns, thoughts and emotions
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which our brain largely learns based on past experiences we've had.
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A majority of our subconscious schemas,
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our behaviors, are formed and adapted early on in life,
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especially in childhood,
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because our brains are kind of blank slates.
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We haven't experienced much of life yet,
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so out of safety and efficiency,
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our brain takes each big experience and wants to say,
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OK, this is what I did, these were the factors around,
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this is what happened
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and therefore is how I should predict,
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I should feel, think and act from here on out."
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And it puts that on autopilot into our subconscious.
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This can be very beneficial, and it does keep us safe and efficient.
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However, it can also become very outdated and unhealthy for us too,
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which is why it's so important to do this work.
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Now, doing such work is not about saying,
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because a lot of our subconscious behaviors were formed in the past,
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that they're all invalid or wrong.
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What it is about doing is making sure we each do our own due diligence
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to understand where the blueprint of our behaviors came from
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and ensure they're still relevant and productive to our current lives.
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We update everything else important in our lives,
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from our homes to our technology to our education.
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Why aren't we doing the same with our behaviors that affect our everyday?
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Now I'm sure some of y'all might be asking,
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"OK, I thought we were talking about workplace burnout.
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Why aren't we talking more about our workplaces and our employers?"
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Which is where I'll offer a little bit of a plot twist.
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Yes, when it comes to burnout,
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our workplaces and employers do own a big part of the equation.
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However, what I find to be somewhat of an overlooked part
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of the equation today
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is what piece of the problem we individually own ourselves, too.
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If I inherently have a tendency or a pattern to overwork
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or not be able to set boundaries
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no matter what workplace or organization I change.
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If I never take accountability to drive my own internal change,
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then no matter what external change I make,
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I will likely keep suffering from the same patterns
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over and over again.
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Now, all that being sad and all that being something I strongly believe in,
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I am also a realist and I know that not all of us
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will be ready to do our own deep personal work yet.
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So where else can we start on this topic?
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What else can we do?
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I'll offer three smaller steps.
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First,
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when you find yourself wanting to say "we're like family" around work
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or organizations,
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try to get clearer in your communication
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and use language that has better boundaries.
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As Brené Brown says,
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"Clear is kind. Unclear is unkind."
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So if you find yourself wanting to say "We're like family,"
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but you're really kind of asking for a favor,
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clarify that, say, "Hey, you know,
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we actually need this deliverable a week sooner.
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What can we do to achieve that?"
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Or if you're just trying to communicate a value about your organization,
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again, clarify the language and use boundaries.
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Say, "It's a priority for our teams to feel trust and connection."
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Or, as my friend Trey, the CEO of Kronologic,
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says to his team, he says,
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"We're not like a family;
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we're like a professional sports team."
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It still infers that same warmth and camaraderie,
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but within the boundaries of a workplace.
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Now, when it comes to this topic,
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it's not to say that you can't have deep,
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meaningful relationships from work,
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but it is to point out that we need to practice healthy boundaries
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so that we can sustain healthy workplaces and relationships.
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The second tip I'll offer is to actually do the work
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to learn and model healthy boundaries for one another.
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If you are a people-pleaser who tends to overscope and overcommit,
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try buying some time before you respond and commit.
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Say, "Hey, I need to evaluate this against my other priorities.
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Can I get back to you by the end of the day?"
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Give yourself some time for that behavioral change
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instead of getting stuck in the same repetitive pattern.
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When you're communicating boundaries,
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clarify what you need and what the impact will be
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if you don't get that need met.
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Say, "If we need this product a month sooner,
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I'm going to need the help of two other people.
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Otherwise, the quality is really going to be at risk,
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and we might either lose team members or customers."
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Remember that when you're communicating boundaries,
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that's not a "me versus you" fight,
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but it's what we need to do to collectively come together
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to resource ourselves, to sustain our organizations,
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workplaces and relationships.
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Last tip I will offer
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is to see if you can find one way to empower mental health
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for yourself or others this year.
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I will recognize that just when it comes to talking about mental, emotional health,
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our behaviors and our past, that can feel tender, personal.
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But it can especially feel a little scary or stigmatized
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when we are talking about working with experts
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like psychologist or psychotherapist.
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I'll close here by offering a reframe in that thinking,
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a reframe in that stigma.
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When it comes to any other important part of our lives,
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we seek out experts.
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When it comes to our physical health, we seek out doctors.
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Financial health, we seek out financial advisors.
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Why is it that when it comes to our mental health,
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we think we should take care of it on our own?
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We would never look at a friend who's having a heart attack and be like,
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"You should really take care of that yourself,
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otherwise you're kind of weak.
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You should not need to go to the hospital."
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Why is it that we think we can grow or develop our mental health
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when most of us don't have the tools or education to do so?
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So today,
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whether it is your propensity to burn out,
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your struggle with setting boundaries or something different,
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I hope you can feel a little bit more free and empowered
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to start building more meaning and sustainability into your life.
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Thank you for your time.
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(Applause)
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