Could an Orca Give a TED Talk? | Karen Bakker | TED

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So we're in the middle of a fierce debate
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about how artificial intelligence will change human society.
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But have you thought about how AI will transform
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your relationship to the non-human world?
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So these are bioacoustic recorders.
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And I've spent years studying how scientists use devices like this,
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combined with AI,
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to listen to the hidden sounds of nature
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and decode non-human communication.
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Hidden sounds,
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because much acoustic communication in nature
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occurs in the high ultrasound, above your hearing range,
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or in the deep infrasound, below your hearing range.
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So I'm going to play a sound.
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I want you to listen and try to guess who or what this is.
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(Chirping sound)
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So that was a bat.
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That was bat ultrasound, recorded above your hearing range,
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but slowed down so you could hear.
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So that was an advertisement call from the peak of the mating season.
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Scientists can decode these calls,
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so a sample bat to English translation would be, and I quote,
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"Pay attention.
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I'm a Pipistrellus nathusii bat, specifically male.
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My name is X. I am landing here
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and we share a common social identity and common communication pool."
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For a pickup line by a bat, not bad.
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(Laughter)
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So scientists have recorded millions of bat vocalizations like this
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and they've decoded many of them using AI.
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And they've revealed that bats have dialects
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that they pass down from one generation to the next,
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and that baby bats learn to speak just like you did,
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by listening to the adults around them
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and babbling back until they speak adult bat.
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So bats have far more complex communication than we knew,
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and they're only one of many examples.
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Listen to this.
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(Melodic chirping sounds)
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So those are orcas who live right here in the Salish Sea.
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Scientists can decode individual orca calls using AI
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and they've revealed that orcas also pass down their dialects
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from one generation to the next.
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So it turns out
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that orcas and bats are not the only creatures that make ultrasound.
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Moths, mice, beetles, rats.
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Even some of our smaller primate cousins like this tarsier.
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At the other end, in the deep infrasound,
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elephants and whales,
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tigers and some birds make sound.
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So when we first learned about these secret sounds of the world,
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we're often surprised because humans tend to believe
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that what we cannot perceive does not exist.
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And so we miss a lot.
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One of my favorite examples is this peacock.
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So to you, this looks like a visual mating display.
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And it is.
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But this peacock is also making very loud infrasound with its tail,
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which you cannot hear, but female peahens can.
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And it is an important factor in their mating decisions.
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So this peacock is giving a rock concert.
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(Laughter)
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Now, we have lived with peacocks for millennia,
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but we only just figured this out.
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Scientists also used to think that turtles were voiceless
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and mother turtles abandoned their nests after laying their eggs.
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But we've just discovered that baby Amazonian turtles
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communicate through their shells before they hatch
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to coordinate the moment of their birth
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and then follow their mother's calls to safety in the water.
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Even creatures without ears are exquisitely sensitive to sound.
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So this is a coral larva.
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When coral larvae are born, usually at a mass spawning event
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a few days after the full moon, they wash out to sea.
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So scientists used to think that these little larvae,
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these tiny dots that you see here,
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were helpless, randomly pushed around by wind and waves and currents.
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But it turns out that coral larvae are acoustically attuned.
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They can hear the sounds of healthy reefs.
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They can hear the sound of their home reef, their mother reef,
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and they swim back home across miles of open ocean.
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So these are tiny creatures with no central nervous system.
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But we think they do that with these hairs
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that you see on the outside of their bodies.
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They're a lot like the hairs inside your ears
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that are enabling you to listen to me right now,
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so you can think of a coral larva a little bit like an inside-out ear,
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except that its sense of hearing is profoundly more sensitive than your own
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because they hear with their entire bodies.
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Even our planet makes sound.
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Volcanoes, earthquakes sound so low and strong and powerful,
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they travel very far,
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passing through soil and stone and even solid walls.
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Listen to this hydrothermal vent deep under the ocean.
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(Deep, rhythmic hum)
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So in nature, sound is everywhere and silence is an illusion.
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So scientists are also listening to the vast extent
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of interspecies communication.
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So this bat is using ultrasound to hunt this moth.
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Its echolocation beam is locked onto its prey,
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but the moth is also emitting ultrasound.
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It's jamming the bat sonar in an attempt to escape.
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This plant is also emitting ultrasound, which varies depending on its condition.
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Scientists have trained an algorithm to listen to this plant.
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Simply by listening
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it can detect with about 70 percent accuracy
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whether the plant is healthy, dehydrated or injured.
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So this is peer-reviewed research, by the way.
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So we cannot hear these sounds, but we think many insects can.
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Does this mean that humans could use digital tech
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to one day communicate with other species?
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Well, some scientists think so
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and they're using machine learning to try to decode the acoustics of other species.
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So there are teams of computer scientists and linguists and biologists
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working on decoding sperm whale bioacoustics.
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They're also building entire dictionaries.
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So there's an elephant dictionary with thousands of sounds.
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Elephants, for example, have a specific signal for honeybee.
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So I'd love to share just one of these sounds with you.
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It was recorded at a moment of great joy and celebration,
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the birth of a new baby.
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(Elephant roaring)
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(Applause)
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So the further we listen across the tree of life,
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the more complex interspecies communication would be.
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Listen to this honeybee.
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(Honeybee buzzing)
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Now listen to this honeybee queen.
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(Queen bee tooting)
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So you thought you knew what honeybees sounded like. OK.
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Honeybee communication is incredibly complex.
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It's acoustic, positional, spatial, vibrational.
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The queen has her own signals.
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So scientists are encoding these signals into robots.
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This robot is attempting, but not succeeding,
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to communicate with the hive.
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The bees mostly ignore or attack it.
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But one day, we hope,
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the inventors hope, that this robot will communicate well enough
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to allow scientists to monitor the health of the hive.
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Now, would that be a good thing?
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Some believe that interspecies communication would help foster respect
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and empathy for nature,
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others believe that it is profoundly disrespectful and unethical
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to eavesdrop and engage in this way.
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And there could be a really big downside.
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Listen to this robin.
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(Bird chirping)
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So that was not actually a robin.
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That was a deepfake
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created by an artist, Daisy Ginsberg, using AI.
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Clever, beautiful.
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But think of the potential for misuse by hunters or poachers.
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Interspecies communication needs strong ethical guardrails.
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And anyway, maybe it's a bit self-centered to think
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other species would even want to communicate with us.
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(Laughter)
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So what if we were to use bioacoustics
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for something of immediate practical value,
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like doing something about our massive biodiversity crisis?
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Let's go back to the coral reefs.
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Listen to this healthy reef sound.
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(Chirping, croaking and sizzling sounds)
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Pretty lively, right?
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But coral reefs are disappearing.
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If you were to go to most coral reefs today,
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you'd hear something like this.
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(Staticky sound)
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It's like a ghost town of the sea.
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When we lose species, we lose voices.
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When we lose landscapes, we also lose soundscapes.
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There is a ray of hope.
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The healthy reef sounds that you just heard
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can be used to regenerate coral reefs.
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Scientists are doing this.
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It's a bit like music therapy for nature.
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So this is not going to solve all the problems coral reefs face,
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notably climate change.
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But if we can address the massive epidemic of noise pollution
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that is harming and killing marine creatures,
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we could use bioacoustics to restore some biodiversity.
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Bioacoustics could also help protect animals on the move.
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So this baby whale was killed by a ship.
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Tragically, this is a common cause of death of North Atlantic right whales,
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one of the most endangered species in the world.
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So to address this,
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scientists are now launching a new bioacoustics program
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off the east coast of North America
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to triangulate the locations of whales
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and convey the information to ships’ captains in real time.
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The ships then have to slow down, stop, move out of the way.
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Not a single right whale has died of a ship strike in this zone
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since this program was launched.
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(Applause)
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So this may be the thing that saves this species.
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So think about it.
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A few decades ago, we were harpooning these whales nearly to extinction.
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Today, we've invented a technology
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that allows a community of less than 400 whales,
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simply by singing,
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to guide the movements of tens of thousands of ships
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in a watershed that's home to tens of millions of people.
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One day, these whale lanes may be everywhere in the oceans.
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For the orcas who live here in the Salish Sea,
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this would be just in time because there are only a few dozen left.
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A final thought.
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About 400 years ago,
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the inventors of the microscope were astonished to discover
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the microbial world.
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They had no idea their invention would lead to the discovery of DNA
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and the ability to manipulate the code of life.
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Around the same time,
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the inventors of the telescope were gazing up at the stars,
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not knowing their invention would allow humanity to look back in time
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to the origins of the universe.
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Optics decenters humanity within the solar system,
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within the cosmos.
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Bioacoustics decenters humanity within the tree of life.
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Our commonality is greater than we knew.
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Now today we're using bioacoustics to protect species
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and decode their communication,
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but tomorrow, I believe, we'll be using bioacoustics
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combined with machine intelligence
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to explore the frontiers of biological intelligence.
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Many biological intelligences are very different than our own,
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but they're no less worthy of exploration.
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And maybe one day in a speculative future,
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instead of a human here on stage,
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maybe bioacoustics would enable an orca to give a TED talk.
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(Laughter)
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Why not?
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Sharing orca stories about dodging ships
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and seismic blasts and human hunters,
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stories about desperately seeking the last remaining salmon,
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stories about trying to survive on this beautiful planet
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in this crazy moment
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in our era of untethered human creativity
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and unprecedented environmental emergency.
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Now those would be ideas worth spreading.
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(Chirping sounds)
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(Applause)
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