Simple Way to Improve Your English TOGETHER (with Other People) โ€” Podcast

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2023-03-27 ใƒป RealLife English


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Simple Way to Improve Your English TOGETHER (with Other People) โ€” Podcast

99,100 views ใƒป 2023-03-27

RealLife English


ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

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Community gives you the chance to apply what you  learned, so yes, input is important yeah studying  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใ‚’้ฉ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ๅ…ฅๅŠ›ใฏ้‡่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚
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consuming content, consuming information, but  you have to apply and Community offers you that  
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ใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ๆถˆ่ฒปใ—ใ€ๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’ๆถˆ่ฒปใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅญฆใณใพใ™ใŒใ€ ้ฉ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏใใฎ
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safe space. It's beautiful, it's a beautiful  way of thinking of it when we feed ourselves  
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ๅฎ‰ๅ…จใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใŒ
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with different perspectives, we're enriching our  own knowledge, we're broadening our perspective  
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ใ•ใพใ–ใพใช่ฆ–็‚นใง่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’้คŠใ„ใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใฎ็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ใ‚’่ฑŠใ‹ใซใ—ใ€
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on the world, we're understanding other people  better, we're seeing the world differently, right.
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ไธ–็•Œใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹่ฆ–้‡Žใ‚’ๅบƒใ’ใ€ไป–ใฎไบบใ€…ใ‚’ ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚ˆใ็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็พŽใ—ใ„่€ƒใˆๆ–นใงใ™ใ€‚ ไธ–็•ŒใŒ้•ใ†ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
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Alright, so I'm joined today in the global  studio once again by the one, the only Casse. 
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ใ‚ˆใ—ใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใ‚‚ใ‚ฐใƒญใƒผใƒใƒซ ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚ธใ‚ชใซใ€ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎ Casse ใจๅˆๆตใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
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Hey, Thiago. Hey guys. Alright, guys. So today we are talking all about  
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ใญใˆใ€ใƒใ‚ขใ‚ดใ€‚ ใ‚„ใ‚ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚ ใ‚ˆใ—ใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ€
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community and why being a part of a community can  help you become a better learner and also a better  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซใคใ„ใฆใ€ใใ—ใฆใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไธ€ๅ“กใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ไบบ้–“ใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใค็†็”ฑใซใคใ„ใฆใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใ—ใพใ™
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person. So guys, uh, let's get started here and  Casse, I guess it's bet(ter) it's good to define  
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใฏ็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใซใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ๅฎš็พฉใ—ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
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community first. What do we mean by community? Well, a community is generally a group of people  
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ใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹? ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใฏไธ€่ˆฌใซใ€
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who share the same space, so this could be  physically or virtually, and they sort of  
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ๅŒใ˜ใ‚นใƒšใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ ็‰ฉ็†็š„ใพใŸใฏไปฎๆƒณ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
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come together for a common goal or common purpose.  Either they live together or they come together,  
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ๅ…ฑ้€šใฎ็›ฎๆจ™ใพใŸใฏๅ…ฑ้€šใฎ็›ฎ็š„ใฎใŸใ‚ใซ้›†ใพใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไธ€็ท’ใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€้›†ใพใฃใฆใ€
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you know, to share ideas, experiences, or, you  know, resources of some kind. So a community  
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ใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ€็ตŒ้จ“ใ€ใพใŸใฏ ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใฏใ€
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would be a group of people coming together with  sort of a common interest or a common goal. 
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ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎๅ…ฑ้€šใฎ้–ขๅฟƒใ‚„ๅ…ฑ้€šใฎ็›ฎๆจ™ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆ้›†ใพใฃใŸไบบใ€…ใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใงใ™ใ€‚
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Yeah. That's a great definition. Uh, do  you have any examples, by the way, to give? 
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๅฎš็พฉใงใ™ใ€‚ ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ ไฝ•ใ‹ไพ‹ใ‚’ๆŒ™ใ’ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ
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Sure. A community could be a group of friends  who, you know, enjoy the same things and they  
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใฏใ€ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๅ‹ไบบใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
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come together to, you know, enjoy activities  together, like sport or, you know, movies or  
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ใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใ‚„ๆ˜ ็”ปใ€
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just other things they have in common. It could be  that you're, you all love dancing or you all are  
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ใใฎไป–ใฎๅ…ฑ้€š็‚นใชใฉใฎๆดปๅ‹•ใ‚’ไธ€็ท’ใซๆฅฝใ—ใ‚€ใŸใ‚ใซ้›†ใพใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ็š†ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚นใŒๅฅฝใใชใฎใ‹ใ€ๅ…จๅ“กใŒ
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English learners and you come together to, to talk  about that or to relate to one another on that  
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่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆใŠไบ’ใ„ใซ้–ขไฟ‚ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€
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topic or because of the interest that you share. By the way, I loved the way you said dancing. Can  
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่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ้›†ใพใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใƒ€ใƒณใ‚นใŒๅฅฝใใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
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you say that again? Dancing. 
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ทใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚
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Dancing. Wow. Is that correct? How, I mean, my  pronunciation: dancing. Is that it? (Yes) Yeah, I  
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ทใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚ ใŠใŠใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚Œใฏๆญฃใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฎ ็™บ้Ÿณใฏใƒ€ใƒณใ‚นใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚Œใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ๏ผˆใฏใ„๏ผ‰ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏ
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like that. Yeah. (Dancing.) It's a, it's  a different way of saying dancing. Yeah? 
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๏ผˆ่ธŠใ‚‹ใ€‚๏ผ‰ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚นใฎๅˆฅใฎ่จ€ใ„ๆ–นใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“๏ผŸ
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Sorry for laughing. Yes, it is. I didn't realize  it was different. Dancing. Dancing. Yeah. Dancing. 
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็ฌ‘ใฃใฆใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ้•ใ†ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ทใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ทใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ทใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚
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Yeah. I don't know if it's more along  the lines of British English. Yeah? The  
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚น่‹ฑ่ชžใซ่ฟ‘ใ„ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“๏ผŸ
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way you're (Yeah.) saying it, right. Dancing, but  yeah, I mean I had to point that out because when  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่จ€ใ„ๆ–น๏ผˆใˆใˆ๏ผ‰ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ่ธŠใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆŒ‡ๆ‘˜ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰
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you said thatit was like, oh wow, look at that.  That's cool. That's cool. So another example I can  
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ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ณ ใ„ใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ณใ„ใ„ใ€‚ ใ“ใ“ใงๆŒ™ใ’ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎไพ‹ใฏใ€
03:22
give here is a school network. So if you study  at a school or if you take any kind of course,  
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ๅญฆๆ กใฎใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ๅญฆๆ กใงๅ‹‰ๅผทใ™ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆ ใ‚„ใ€ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎใ‚ณใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ๅ—่ฌ›ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ไธ€็ท’
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the people you study with, the people that  go to the same school that you go to, uh,  
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ใซๅ‹‰ๅผทใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ้€šใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅŒใ˜ๅญฆๆ กใซ้€šใ†ไบบใชใฉใ‚‚
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that could be considered a community as well.  That actually reminds me of my days back when  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจ่ฆ‹ใชใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
03:40
I was teaching English in language schools here  in Brazil. And, um, there was this school that  
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ใ“ใ“ใƒ–ใƒฉใ‚ธใƒซใฎ่ชžๅญฆๅญฆๆ กใง่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใŸ้ ƒใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€
03:47
I worked at and, uh, we started doing these live  events with students. Basically, we would gather  
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็งใŒๅƒใ„ใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใฎๅญฆๆ กใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅญฆ็”Ÿใจใฎใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏใ€ใ™ในใฆ
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everybody, all the students from all levels, all  classrooms, you know, and we would do something  
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ใฎ็”Ÿๅพ’ใ€ใ™ในใฆใฎใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใ€ใ™ในใฆใฎ ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚นใฎ็”Ÿๅพ’ใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใฆใ€ไฝ•ใ‹
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cultural together, you know. And, there was this  one time I did a "Beatles night" there with the  
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ๆ–‡ๅŒ–็š„ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ไธ€็ท’ใซ่กŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€็”Ÿๅพ’ใŸใก ใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ€Œใƒ“ใƒผใƒˆใƒซใ‚บ ใƒŠใ‚คใƒˆใ€ใ‚’่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
04:06
students and it was really fun. We, you know,  played and sang Beatles songs together and then  
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏ ไธ€็ท’ใซใƒ“ใƒผใƒˆใƒซใ‚บใฎๆ›ฒใ‚’ๆผ”ๅฅใ—ใŸใ‚ŠๆญŒใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ใŸๅพŒใ€ใƒใƒณใƒ‰
04:12
I told them a little bit about the history of  the band, how they were formed, and, you know,  
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ใฎๆญดๅฒ ใ€ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็ตๆˆใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใ‹ใ€
04:17
what happened to them after that. So, yeah, I  mean, that was a, a great example. As a matter  
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ใใฎๅพŒใฉใ†ใชใฃใŸใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ไพ‹ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:22
of fact, I do have a, a short footage of that  day. So Thiago, if you could briefly play for us,  
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใฎใจใ“ใ‚ใ€ใใฎๆ—ฅใฎ็Ÿญใ„ๆ˜ ๅƒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใƒใ‚ขใ‚ดใ€็งใŸใกใฎใŸใ‚ใซ็ฐกๅ˜ใซๆผ”ๅฅใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใ‚Œใฐ
04:28
that'd be cool. Yeah. Just to show you, Casse, how  it went, yeah, it was really cool. Check it out.
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ๅนธใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใฉใ†ใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใŠ่ฆ‹ใ›ใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใชใ€‚
04:36
That was cool. Yeah, that was a, a great night.  And I think that was the first time we did  
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ใ‹ใฃใ“ใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๅคœใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ ใ—ใŸใฎใฏๅˆใ‚ใฆใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
04:57
something like that. And, the school started doing  these events more and more. And, uh, nowadays  
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ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅญฆๆ กใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ใพใ™ใพใ™่กŒใ„ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
05:03
I think they're still doing it with other  teachers, you know, it kind of caught on,  
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ใพใ ไป–ใฎ ๆ•™ๅธซใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใ‚‹็จ‹ๅบฆไบบๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€
05:07
but yeah, that was a great example of a school  network community that you can have there. Yeah. 
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ๅญฆๆ กใฎใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ไพ‹ใงใ—ใŸ. ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
05:13
Yeah. And what I love most about it is that  like, yes, they're all English learners, but  
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็š†่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใงใ™ใŒใ€
05:21
the purpose is greater than that. And that's the  point we're making today, right? Like, they're,  
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็›ฎ็š„ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๅคงใใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€
05:25
they're not sitting there with their notebooks  and pens, like, you know, writing down the, your,  
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ใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใจใƒšใƒณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใใ“ใซๅบงใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ
05:29
the instructions you're giving them. They're  literally like enjoying, they're in the moment  
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ไธŽใˆใŸๆŒ‡็คบใ‚’ๆ›ธใ็•™ใ‚ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ€ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใ‚’
05:33
repeating and they're singing it along. I love  that. It's, it's creative and it's (Yeah,) fun. 
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็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใ€ไธ€็ท’ใซๆญŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฏ ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ๅ‰ต้€ ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€๏ผˆใˆใˆใ€๏ผ‰ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
05:38
it's definitely a way of living your English.  Yeah. You just, uh, just live it. Yeah. Just enjoy  
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็”Ÿใใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใŸใ ใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ใŸใ ใใ‚Œใ‚’็”Ÿใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใง
05:43
it. Another example of community we can give here  is meet up events. So maybe a language exchange  
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ใ€‚ ใ“ใ“ใง็ดนไป‹ใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎไพ‹ใฏใ€ ใƒŸใƒผใƒˆใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ— ใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€่จ€่ชžไบคๆ›
05:49
programs, you know, maybe you go to another  country to study there for a while and then  
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ใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใ€ใ”ๅญ˜ใ˜ใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€ๅˆฅใฎๅ›ฝใซ่กŒใฃใฆ ใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใŸๅพŒใ€
05:53
you meet other students or other people there  that could be part of a community. That could  
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ไป–ใฎๅญฆ็”Ÿใ‚„ใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไธ€ๅ“กใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ไป–ใฎไบบใ€…ใซไผšใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
05:58
be an example of community. Uh, even the events  that RealLife English used to do back in the day  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไธ€ไพ‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ RealLife English ใŒ
06:04
many years ago, uh, RealLife English used to host  or hold these personal, in-person events where,  
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ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚ๅ‰ใซ่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใงใ•ใˆใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€RealLife English ใฏ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใชๅฏพ้ขๅผใฎใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ไธปๅ‚ฌใพใŸใฏ้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—
06:13
you know, teachers, learners, they would get  together at a bar for example, and just enjoy  
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ใŸใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ใƒใƒผใง
06:19
being together, practicing their English,  maybe having a few drinks. Yeah. So (Yeah,)  
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ไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใฆใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ ใŠ้…’ใ‚’้ฃฒใ‚“ใ ใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰๏ผˆใใ†ใงใ™๏ผ‰ใ€
06:24
that's another example that comes to mind.  Yeah. What else would you give here, Casse? 
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๆ€ใ„ๆตฎใ‹ใถๅˆฅใฎไพ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ“ใ“ใงไป–ใซไฝ•ใ‚’ใ‚ใ’ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€Casse?
06:29
I would say that definitely social media, like  anything online, like we are all doing it in one  
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้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใฏใ€ ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใฎใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใจๅŒๆง˜ใซใ€็งใŸใกๅ…จๅ“กใŒไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใˆใพใ™
06:37
way or another. Like, we have our WhatsApp groups,  we have our Facebook, Telegram, different groups,  
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ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€WhatsApp ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใ€ Facebookใ€Telegramใ€ใ•ใพใ–ใพใชใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใชใฉใ€
06:44
you know, that we use to connect with people. And,  um, in my case, I've used quite a few language  
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ไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ ใ€็งใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ใ‹ใชใ‚Šใฎๆ•ฐใฎ่จ€่ชžไบคๆ›ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆ
06:51
exchange apps to, um, help me with Portuguese, but  also other languages. And I think this is a great  
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ใ€ใƒใƒซใƒˆใ‚ฌใƒซ่ชžใ ใ‘ใงใชใ ไป–ใฎ่จ€่ชžใ‚‚ใ‚ตใƒใƒผใƒˆใ—ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€
06:59
way of like, connecting with someone and, you  know, sharing a part of yourself. And then also,  
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่ชฐใ‹ใจใคใชใŒใ‚Šใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไธ€้ƒจใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใพใŸใ€
07:04
you know, receiving knowledge or different  perspective or different, there's, there's  
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็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅˆฅใฎ ่ฆ–็‚นใ‚’ๆŒใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅˆฅใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ€
07:09
deeper layers to, you know, language exchange.  So I think with, uh, language exchange groups,  
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่จ€่ชžไบคๆ›ใซใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆทฑใ„ๅฑคใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใƒฉใƒณใ‚ฒใƒผใ‚ธ ใ‚จใ‚ฏใ‚นใƒใ‚งใƒณใ‚ธ ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใ‚‚
07:15
that's also a nice example, but social media  in general, whether it's Instagram, TikTok,  
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่‰ฏใ„ไพ‹ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใฏใ€Instagram ใงใ‚ใ‚Œ TikTok ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใ€
07:20
you know, you're commenting, you're watching  a video. I have recently started following,  
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ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ ๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:25
uh, a random account because this woman posts  like really fun videos. And I'm learning, like  
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ใ“ใฎๅฅณๆ€งใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๆŠ•็จฟใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ€ใƒฉใƒณใƒ€ใƒ ใชใ‚ขใ‚ซใ‚ฆใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒญใƒผใ—ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’่ชญใ‚€ใฎใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
07:33
reading the comments, I feel like I'm learning  something about her culture. So the point is  
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ใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฎๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใซใคใ„ใฆไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆฐ—ใŒใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ่ฆ็‚นใฏใ€
07:39
that when we join these, when we follow people on  social media, when we join groups or communities,  
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็งใŸใกใŒใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใงไบบใ€…ใ‚’ใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒญใƒผใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ ใ€ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใ‚„ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใ€
07:43
uh, like that, we are also, you know, connecting  with people who share a similar interest or ideas  
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ๅŒๆง˜ใฎ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚„ใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ€
07:50
or worldviews or things like that. So definitely  I'd say social media and online communities are,  
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ใพใŸใฏไธ–็•Œ่ฆณใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใ€‚ ้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ€ ใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ‚„ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚‚
07:57
are also a great example of that. Cool. You did say something cool there. You  
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ใใฎๅฅฝไพ‹ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใญใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ“ใงใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใชใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€
08:02
said deeper layers, yeah, social media has deeper  layers, I guess you said. Uh, what does that mean,  
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ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆทฑใ„ๅฑคใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใŠใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใ„ใพใ—ใŸใญใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€ใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใซใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆทฑใ„ ๅฑคใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใŠใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€
08:07
when something has deeper layers or deeper layers? So when we talk about something having deeper  
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆทฑใ„ๅฑคใพใŸใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆทฑใ„ๅฑคใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹? ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆทฑใ„ๅฑคใ‚’ๆŒใคใ‚‚ใฎใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใ
08:12
layers, I mean that there's more to it than meets  the eye. Like what you see might look like it's,  
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ใ€็›ฎใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ไปฅไธŠใฎใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
08:19
you know, it's one thing, but there's a lot  more the deeper you go into it, like there's,  
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ใใ‚Œใฏ1ใคใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใŒใ€ๆทฑใๆŽ˜ใ‚Šไธ‹ใ’ใ‚Œใฐ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใปใฉ ๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใŒ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚
08:25
there's more to it than then we think, then  we initially think, or then we initially  
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ๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใซ่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใซ
08:30
can imagine, right? (That's cool. ) So yeah. Like  
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ใงใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ๏ผˆใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚๏ผ‰ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ญใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
08:33
a cake, you know, many layers. Uh, I can also think about gaming,  
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ใ€ไฝ•ๅฑคใซใ‚‚ใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€
08:38
right, Casse, I mean, uh, nowadays there are  so many gaming communities, yeah? People who  
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ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใงใฏ ้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ  ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใญใ€‚
08:42
love video games, they play online together.  That's a great example. That actually reminds  
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใชไบบใ€…ใฏใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงไธ€็ท’ใซ้Šใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ไพ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใƒใƒณใƒใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใพใ™
08:47
me of Humbert, because Humbard, one of our team  members, he has recently sent us a really cool  
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ใ€‚ใƒใƒณใƒใƒผใƒ‰ใฏ็งใŸใกใฎใƒใƒผใƒ ใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใฎ 1 ไบบใงใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไธ€ๅ“กใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงๅฝผใฎ่‹ฑ่ชž็”Ÿๆดปใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใฃใŸใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎๅฝผใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹้žๅธธใซใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใชใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ๆœ€่ฟ‘็งใŸใกใซ้€ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™
08:53
video message sharing his experience with how  being a part of a community helped him live his  
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09:00
English. And just to be clear here, uh, what,  what do we mean by living your English? We mean  
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ใ€‚ ใ“ใ“ใงใฏใฃใใ‚Šใ•ใ›ใฆใŠใใŸใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ ่‹ฑ่ชžใง็”Ÿๆดปใ™ใ‚‹ใจใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹? ็งใŸใกใฏใ€
09:05
making English part of her day-to-day routine.  Okay? You consume stuff in English daily, yeah,  
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅฝผๅฅณใฎๆ—ฅๅธธใฎไธ€้ƒจใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸ๏ผŸ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆฏŽๆ—ฅ่‹ฑ่ชžใงไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆถˆ่ฒปใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใˆใˆใ€
09:11
not because you have to learn it or study it, but  because you enjoy it and it's just something that  
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ‚Šๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใฏใชใใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ€
09:16
is always there. It's part of your life. Okay. And  you do it every day. So, um, I thought it would  
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ๅธธใซใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”Ÿใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆฏŽๆ—ฅใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€
09:22
be cool for us to actually watch, uh, the clip  where Humbert shares his experience, and Thiago,  
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ใƒใƒณใƒใƒผใƒˆใŒๅฝผใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใƒใ‚ขใ‚ดใ€
09:27
could you please roll it? And let's see. Okay. So for me, community was really  
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ใƒญใƒผใƒซใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใพใ™ใ‹? ใใ—ใฆ่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ็งใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏ
09:32
important in several aspects of my life, but  certain, certainly the most important one,  
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็งใฎไบบ็”Ÿใฎใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๅด้ขใงๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้‡่ฆใงใ—ใŸใŒใ€ ็ขบใ‹ใซๆœ€ใ‚‚้‡่ฆใชใฎใฏใ€
09:39
I think, is that, uh, you as a creative, me as  a creative, uh, if you're a creative person,  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚จใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€็งใŒ ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚จใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ไบบใฏใ€
09:46
you need to feed yourself with different  perspectives. Like the more perspectives you know,  
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ใ•ใพใ–ใพใช่ฆ–็‚นใง่‡ชๅˆ†ใ‚’้คŠใ†ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎ่ฆ–็‚นใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไธ–็•Œใฎ้žๅธธใซใ•ใพใ–ใพใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใŸ
09:53
the more experiences that you can hear from people  that come from very different places in the world  
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ไบบใ€…ใ‹ใ‚‰่žใใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใฏใ€
09:59
will benefit you and will nurture your way of  seeing things, the way you feel things, the way  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใซๅˆฉ็›Šใ‚’ใ‚‚ใŸใ‚‰ใ—ใ€ ็‰ฉไบ‹ใฎ่ฆ‹ๆ–นใ€็‰ฉไบ‹ใฎๆ„Ÿใ˜ๆ–นใ€
10:09
you create your own ideas, the way you create your  own, uh, position and point of view about things.  
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็‹ฌ่‡ชใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฎไฝœใ‚Šๆ–นใ‚’่‚ฒใฟใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸ ่‡ช่บซใฎใ€ใˆใƒผใจใ€็‰ฉไบ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎ็ซ‹ๅ ดใจ่ฆ–็‚นใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ™ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใ€‚
10:19
So that definitely for me, was one of the  biggest things when it comes to community. 
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใ็งใซใจใฃใฆใ€ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ๆœ€ๅคงใฎๅ‡บๆฅไบ‹ใฎ 1 ใคใงใ™ใ€‚
10:26
I, I absolutely love what he's saying because I  love the point he's making about how community  
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็งใฏใ€ๅฝผใฎ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
10:35
helps you develop, basically broaden your  perspective on the world. Because he uses,  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๆˆ้•ทใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซ ไธ–็•Œใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹่ฆ–้‡Žใ‚’ๅบƒใ’ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎๅฝผใฎๆŒ‡ๆ‘˜ใŒๅฅฝใใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใฏไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€
10:42
he says it really beautifully - he says, feed  yourself different perspectives. So what do  
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ๅฝผใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็พŽใ—ใ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ๅฝผใฏใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใซใ•ใพใ–ใพใช่ฆ–็‚นใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใงใฏใ€็งใŸใกใŒ
10:47
we do when we feed, when we, we are feeding, we  literally have to take something. It's an action,  
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้คŒใ‚’้ฃŸในใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆ‘‚ๅ–ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจใใ€็งใŸใกใฏไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
10:51
taking something and putting it into  your body. Now think of that with, like,  
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๅ–ใฃใฆไฝ“ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹่กŒ็‚บใงใ™ ใ€‚
10:55
someone else's perspective. You're going, okay, I  hear what you're saying. Oh, I read this book. I  
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ไป–ใฎ่ชฐใ‹ใฎ่ฆ–็‚นใง่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ่กŒใใ‚ˆใ€ๅคงไธˆๅคซใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ่žใ“ใˆใพใ™ ใ‚ใ€ใ“ใฎๆœฌ่ชญใฟใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ็งใฏ
11:00
like what he's saying. I'm watching a TED talk,  I like what this... so I'm taking that and I'm  
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ๅฝผใฎ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฏ TED ใฎ่ฌ›ๆผ”ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™...ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏ
11:04
putting it into my, taking it into myself. And  it's beautiful. It's a beautiful way of thinking  
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ€่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใซๅ–ใ‚Šๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏ็พŽใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็พŽใ—ใ„่€ƒใˆๆ–นใงใ™
11:11
of it. When we feed ourself, ourselves different  perspectives, we enriching our own knowledge,  
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ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใŒ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ€ใ•ใพใ–ใพใช่ฆ–็‚นใ‚’้คŠใ†ใจใ ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใฎ็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ใ‚’่ฑŠใ‹ใซใ—ใ€
11:18
we're broadening our perspective on the world.  We're understanding other people better. We're,  
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ไธ–็•Œใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹่ฆ–้‡Žใ‚’ๅบƒใ’ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏไป–ใฎไบบใ€…ใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚ˆใ็†่งฃใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏ
11:23
um, seeing the world differently, right?  So I think that's really absolutely true. 
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ใ€ไธ–็•Œใ‚’้•ใฃใŸ็›ฎใง่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็ตถๅฏพใซ็œŸๅฎŸใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
11:28
And he also used a nice word there. He said,  nur, he said nurture. Yeah. What does it  
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใฏใใ“ใงใ‚‚็ด ๆ•ตใช่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’ไฝฟใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅฝผใฏ่จ€ใฃใŸใ€ nurใ€ๅฝผใฏ่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
11:33
mean to nurture? You nurture something. Yeah. So to nurture means to care for or  
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่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ใจใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่‚ฒใฆใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ใจใฏใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใพใŸใฏ่ชฐใ‹ใฎไธ–่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Š
11:40
develop, encourage the growth or development  of something or someone. So we can nurture our  
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ใ€้–‹็™บใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆˆ้•ทใ‚„้–‹็™บใ‚’ๅฅจๅŠฑใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
11:46
children by, you know, making sure that they go to  school, that they're fed and cared for. Um, we can  
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ๅญไพ›ใŸใกใ‚’ ๅญฆๆ กใซ้€šใ‚ใ›ใ€้ฃŸไบ‹ใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ€ไธ–่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ€ๅญไพ›ใŸใกใ‚’่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใŸใกใฎ
11:53
nurture our minds as well, our, our, our thoughts  by, you know, feeding ourselves the right, uh,  
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ๅฟƒใ€็งใŸใกใฎๆ€่€ƒใ‚’่‚ฒใ‚€ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใซๆญฃใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’้ฃŸในใ•ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ€
12:00
things or exposing our ourselves to, to people  and things that are good for us, that make us feel  
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ไบบใ‚„็งใŸใกใซใจใฃใฆ่‰ฏใ„ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใซใ•ใ›ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใซ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’ใ•ใ‚‰ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆใงใ™ใ€‚
12:07
good, and that help us develop in life. Yeah. Thank you so much Humbert, for sending your  
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ใ€ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกใŒไบบ็”Ÿใงๆˆ้•ทใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใพใ™. ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ Humbert ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’้€ไฟกใ—
12:13
message and sharing your experience with us. That  was amazing. Uh, just a quick reminder here, uh,  
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ใ€็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ ใ™ใ”ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚ YouTube ใง
12:18
for you, in case you are watching us here on  YouTube or listening to us on Apple Podcast,  
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็งใŸใกใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ‚Šใ€ Apple Podcastใ€
12:23
Spotify, or any other place, we highly recommend  you download the RealLife English app. Okay?  
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Spotifyใ€ใพใŸใฏใใฎไป–ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใง็งใŸใกใ‚’่žใ„ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ RealLife English ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใ‚’ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅผทใใŠๅ‹งใ‚ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸ๏ผŸ
12:29
Why? Because you can listen to our podcast, to  this podcast right now, uh, with an interactive  
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ใชใœ๏ผŸ ็งใŸใกใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’่žใใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ ไปŠใ™ใใ“ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใ€ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒฉใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใชใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆไป˜ใใงใŠ่ดใใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใพใ™
12:34
transcript. You know, so it's really cool. Yeah.  If you wanna follow along what we are saying,  
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ใ€‚ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‹ใฃใ“ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใŒ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็†่งฃใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€
12:39
yeah, make sure you're downloaded. It's free.  I'm gonna leave the link in the description  
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็ขบ่ชใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็„กๆ–™ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใกใ‚‰ใฎ ่ชฌๆ˜Žใซใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ—ใฆใŠใใพใ™
12:42
here. If you're watching us on YouTube or just go  to your favorite app store, alright, Google Play  
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ใ€‚ YouTube ใง็งใŸใกใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ‚„ใ€ ใŠๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒช ใ‚นใƒˆใ‚ขใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€Google Play
12:47
Store or Apple App Store and search for RealLife  English. Alright. Now moving on, Casse, we also  
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ใ‚นใƒˆใ‚ขใพใŸใฏ Apple App Store ใง RealLife English ใ‚’ๆคœ็ดขใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚ ๅคงไธˆๅคซใ€‚ ใงใฏใ€Casse ใ•ใ‚“ใ€
12:54
got a couple of nice messages from some of our  students, uh, Marco and Elena, they sent us some,  
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ไฝ•ไบบใ‹ใฎ็”Ÿๅพ’ใ‹ใ‚‰็ด ๆ•ตใชใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ใ„ใใคใ‹ๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚Marco ใจ Elena ใงใ™ใ€‚
13:01
um, yeah, they sent us an audio message,  also sharing their experience with community  
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใŸใกใซ้Ÿณๅฃฐใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’้€ใฃใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใพใŸใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใ€ใใฎ
13:05
and why it is important to them. So we're  starting with Marco's message here. Let's  
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็†็”ฑใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใซใจใฃใฆ้‡่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใฏใ€ ใ“ใ“ใงใƒžใƒซใ‚ณใฎใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
13:10
listen to what he has to say about that topic. Hi guys. I think that there are many ways in  
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ใใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆๅฝผใŒไฝ•ใ‚’่จ€ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒ่‹ฑ่ชžใฎไธŠ้”ใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใฃใŸๆ–นๆณ•ใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
13:16
which, um, community has helped me on improving  English. I think first of all, it's because,  
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ใ€‚ ใพใš็ฌฌไธ€ใซใ€
13:23
I mean, at the end of the day, like English,  it's just language, so I mean, the usefulness  
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็ตๅฑ€ใฎใจใ“ใ‚ใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ใใ‚ŒใฏใŸใ ใฎ่จ€่ชžใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
13:30
of a language is like to communicate. So I think  that it would be like useful, useless, or, uh, in  
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่จ€่ชžใฎๆœ‰็”จๆ€งใฏใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ไป–ใฎไบบใจใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’
13:38
vain if you learn a language without choosing to  communicate with other people. So that's a really  
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้ธๆŠžใ›ใšโ€‹โ€‹ใซ่จ€่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใถใฎใฏใ€ๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใคใ€ๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใŸใชใ„ใ€ใพใŸใฏ็„ก้ง„ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€
13:43
useful, having a community on which you can  practice and improve your usage of the language.  
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่จ€่ชžใฎไฝฟ็”จใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใฆๆ”นๅ–„ใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ๆŒใคใ“ใจใฏ้žๅธธใซไพฟๅˆฉใงใ™ใ€‚
13:51
Biggest help from, uh, at community level was,  like, from the RealLife Fluency Circle. I've been  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃ ใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใงใฎๆœ€ๅคงใฎๆ”ฏๆดใฏใ€ RealLife Fluency Circle ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ็งใฏ
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here since, uh, July, 2018. And it's really great  because I can practice English on a day-to-day  
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2018 ๅนด 7 ๆœˆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๆ—ฅๅธธ็”Ÿๆดปใง่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™
14:08
life. I mean, nowadays I'm living in Australia,  but even when I was, for instance, in Italy,  
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ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็พๅœจ็งใฏใ‚ชใƒผใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒชใ‚ขใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใซใ„ใŸใจใใงใ•ใˆใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐๆ—ฅๅธธ็š„ใซโ€‹โ€‹่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’
14:14
I wouldn't have had the opportunity to practice  English on a daily basis with, without this  
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็ทด็ฟ’ใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
14:21
community. Aside from that, I also participate on  other kind of meetings when whenever I travel, I  
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใจใฏๅˆฅใซใ€ ไป–ใฎ็จฎ้กžใฎไผš่ญฐใซใ‚‚ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ๆ—…่กŒใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใฏใ„ใคใงใ‚‚
14:30
use an app called Meetup, which is really useful.  It's really widespread. You can find in almost  
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Meetup ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซไพฟๅˆฉใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅบƒใพใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใปใผ
14:37
every country, and you can meet people from  different kind of events. I go to stuff like,  
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ใ™ในใฆใฎๅ›ฝใง่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€ ใ•ใพใ–ใพใช็จฎ้กžใฎใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใฎไบบใ€…ใจๅ‡บไผšใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
14:44
Language Exchange and, or sport activities  like playing football, go for a hike or,  
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ใƒฉใƒณใ‚ฒใƒผใ‚ธ ใ‚จใ‚ฏใ‚นใƒใ‚งใƒณใ‚ธใ‚„ใ€ ใ‚ตใƒƒใ‚ซใƒผใชใฉใฎใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ใƒใ‚คใ‚ญใƒณใ‚ฐใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€
14:52
um, go running. So it also helps me on practice my  English and connect with, uh, like-minded people. 
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ใƒฉใƒณใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅฟ—ใ‚’ๅŒใ˜ใใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚‚ๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ€‚
15:01
So Casse, one thing that stood out to me  about Marco's message was the part when he  
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ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใƒžใƒซใ‚ณใฎใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใง็งใŒ้š›็ซ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใฏใ€
15:06
says that community gives you the chance  to practice your English every day. And  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏ ๆฏŽๆ—ฅ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๅฝผใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
15:10
that's true. Yeah. If you are part of a group,  you can always, you know, send the messages,  
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ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎไธ€ๅ“กใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ใ„ใคใงใ‚‚ใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’้€ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
15:14
maybe, uh, jump on a call with the people there  and practice your English every day about whatever  
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจใฎ้›ป่ฉฑใซ้ฃ›ใณไน—ใฃใฆ ใ€่ˆˆๅ‘ณใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆๆฏŽๆ—ฅ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
15:20
topic you're interested in. What about you? What  caught your attention the most about his message? 
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ใ€‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹? ๅฝผใฎใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใงๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆณจ็›ฎใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใŸใฎใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹? ๅฝผใฎใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใง
15:24
I think what I like most  about his message is when he  
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็งใŒๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€ๅฝผใŒ ๅฟ—ใ‚’
15:26
talks about, you know, having the opportunity  to connect with like-minded people,  
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ๅŒใ˜ใใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
15:32
I think it's really, I guess it makes us very  anxious or nervous when we think about, like,  
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15:38
going into a community space, especially online or  
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็‰นใซใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใฎใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃ ใ‚นใƒšใƒผใ‚นใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€
15:41
being part of a group where you're sort of  an outsider or, you know, people think one,  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ขใ‚ฆใƒˆใ‚ตใ‚คใƒ€ใƒผใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎไธ€ๅ“กใซใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ ไบบใ€…ใŒ
15:46
think about things in one way, and maybe  you have a different view, so you feel  
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ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใง็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Šใ€ ๅˆฅใฎ่ฆ‹ๆ–นใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝ
15:51
like an outsider, but usually if you, you know,  connect with the right people, if you're in the  
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ๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎไธ€ๅ“กใซใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ ้ƒจๅค–่€…ใงใ™ใŒใ€้€šๅธธใ€ ้ฉๅˆ‡ใชไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใ‚Šใ€
15:56
right groups, you're gonna feel like Marco. You're  gonna be able to connect with like-minded people,  
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้ฉๅˆ‡ใชใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใซๅฑžใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใƒžใƒซใ‚ณใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ๅฟ—ใ‚’ ๅŒใ˜ใใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
16:01
which means connecting with people who share  the same views, who share the same ideas,  
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅŒใ˜ๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚„่€ƒใˆใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใ€
16:06
and maybe not even exactly identical  views or ideas. I think maybe who just  
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ใพใฃใŸใๅŒใ˜ ๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚„่€ƒใˆใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅคšๅˆ†่ชฐใŒ
16:12
think about things in a similar way. So it's not  that you, you have the same thoughts or your ideas  
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ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅŒใ˜่€ƒใˆใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ใพใŸใฏใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใŒ
16:18
are identical or the same, but they're similar. Uh, something else that community helps you with  
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ๅŒไธ€ใพใŸใฏๅŒใ˜ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎใ“ใจใฏใ€
16:24
is activating your English. By activating your,  your English we mean studying English in a more  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆดปๆ€งๅŒ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆดปๆ€งๅŒ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆ„ๅ›ณ็š„ใชๆ–นๆณ•ใง่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™
16:30
deliberate way. Yes. So yes, it's good to live  your English, to consume content in English, but  
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ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใง็”Ÿๆดปใ— ใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใงใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ๆถˆ่ฒปใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใŒใ€
16:35
also it's important for you to be more intentional  or deliberate sometimes with your practice. So  
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ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆ„ๅ›ณ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€ ใพใŸใฏๆ™‚ใ€…็ทด็ฟ’ใ‚’ๆ…Ž้‡ใซ่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใ‚‚้‡่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚
16:41
let's say for example, that you have been studying  a specific set of vocabulary, maybe some phrasal  
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ ็‰นๅฎšใฎ่ชžๅฝ™ใฎใ‚ปใƒƒใƒˆใ‚’ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚Take ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใŸใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๅฅ
16:46
verbs with Take, you know, uh, you can go to  your community, to your group, and deliberately  
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ๅ‹•่ฉžใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใปใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚„ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใซ่กŒใฃใฆใ€
16:51
you say to yourself, okay, I'm gonna try to use  a couple of these phrasal verbs that I'm learning  
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ๆ•…ๆ„ใซ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใซ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŒ
16:57
when I talk to people there today, yeah, when  I exchange messages with them today. So this  
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใ€ ไปŠๆ—ฅๅฝผใ‚‰ใจใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ไบคๆ›ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใ€็งใŒๅญฆใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅฅๅ‹•่ฉžใฎใ„ใใคใ‹ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
17:02
is a more deliberate way of using community  to activate your English, to study in a more,  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆ ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆดปๆ€งๅŒ–ใ—ใ€ๆ„ๅ›ณ็š„ใซๅญฆ็ฟ’ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆ„ๅ›ณ็š„ใชๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™
17:07
um, intentional way. And about that we have  the second audio message from another student,  
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใ€ ๅˆฅใฎ็”Ÿๅพ’ใฎใ‚จใƒฌใƒŠใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎ 2 ็•ช็›ฎใฎ้Ÿณๅฃฐใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
17:14
Elena, and she also shares something  really cool here. Let's listen to it. 
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใพใŸใ€ใ“ใ“ใง้žๅธธใซ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ่žใ„ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
17:18
Hello. To be honest, I've never thought that  community might be very helpful in that case,  
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚ ๆญฃ็›ดใชใจใ“ใ‚ใ€ ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ ดๅˆใซใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒ้žๅธธใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใจใฏๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ
17:25
but as turned out I was wrong, and it has been  proved in practice. I've tried to start learn  
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ใŒใ€ ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ้–“้•ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒๅˆคๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ็งใฏไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚่‹ฑ่ชžใฎๅญฆ็ฟ’ใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใฏ
17:35
English many times, and I wouldn't say that it  wasn't successful, um, but I didn't notice a  
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่จ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
17:48
huge achievement and huge difference. But  when I joined to RealLife Fluency Circle,  
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ๅคงใใชๆˆๆžœใจๅคงใใช้•ใ„ใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ RealLife Fluency Circle ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใŸใจใใ€
17:57
um, I noticed that my English, uh, skills  improved by leaps and bounds. And it's true.  
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็งใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅŠ›ใŒ้ฃ›่บ็š„ใซ ๅ‘ไธŠใ—ใŸใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใงใ™ใ€‚
18:06
I think the main reason that, uh, we are as  English learners, we always try to learn,  
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ไธปใช็†็”ฑใฏใ€็งใŸใกใŒ ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใจใ—ใฆใ€ๅธธใซๅญฆ็ฟ’ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€
18:18
um, different grammar, we try to listen to, um,  for example, podcasts, we try to read something,  
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ๅˆฅใฎๆ–‡ๆณ•ใ‚’ๅญฆใผใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใชใฉใ‚’่ดใ“ใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่ชญใ‚‚ใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€
18:26
we take classes with English teachers and  everything it's like input. Everything we  
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่‹ฑ่ชžใงๆŽˆๆฅญใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๆ•™ๅธซใจ ๅ…ฅๅŠ›ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ™ในใฆใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใŒ
18:35
try to put in our head is great, but also we  had apply every knowledge which we learned,  
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้ ญใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ™ในใฆ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใŒใ€ ๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ™ในใฆใฎ็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ใ‚’้ฉ็”จใ—ใŸใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
18:46
and, uh, participation in any kind of  community, it's a wonderful chance to do it. 
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ใพใŸใ€ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹็จฎ้กžใฎใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๆฉŸไผšใงใ™ใ€‚
18:52
Okay. So one thing she says that I really  liked was, input is important, right? But  
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ๅฝผๅฅณใŒ็งใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅฅฝใใ ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใฎ 1 ใคใฏ ใ€ใ‚คใƒณใƒ—ใƒƒใƒˆใฏ้‡่ฆใ ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ? ใ—ใ‹ใ—
18:58
community gives you the chance to apply what you  learn. She said that, right, community gives you  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏใ€ๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟœ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใ‚’้ฉ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€ใจๅฝผๅฅณใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
19:03
the chance to apply what you learn. So yes, input  is important. Yeah, studying, consuming content,  
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ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใ‚คใƒณใƒ—ใƒƒใƒˆใฏ ้‡่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใ€ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใ€ใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ๆถˆ่ฒปใ—ใ€
19:10
consuming information, but you have to apply. And  a community offers you that safe space, right,  
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ๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’ๆถˆ่ฒปใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€ๅฟœๅ‹Ÿใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏๅฎ‰ๅ…จใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใใ“ใซ
19:15
where you can go in there and practice, apply  everything you've been studying and learning. Um,  
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ๅ…ฅใฃใฆ็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใ€ ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใฆๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใ™ในใฆใ‚’้ฉ็”จใงใใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€
19:22
she also used a really cool expression, Casse, she  said, by leaps and bounds. What does that mean? 
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใช่กจ็พใ‚‚ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใจๅฝผๅฅณใฏ ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
19:30
So if we use this phrase leaps and bounds, we  use it to emphasize that something or someone  
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ“ใฎใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ ไฝ•ใ‹ใพใŸใฏ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ
19:37
is improving or increasing quickly. So in  this case, with her English, she was able  
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ๆ€ฅ้€Ÿใซๆ”นๅ–„ใพใŸใฏๅข—ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅผท่ชฟใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใ•ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅŠ›ใฏใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹
19:44
to improve her English quite quickly once she  joined the community. So that's what it means. 
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ใจใ™ใใซ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ไธŠ้”ใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ€‚
19:50
Yeah, great expression. Great idiom  there. Great job, Elena. Anything  
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€ใ„ใ„่กจ็พใ€‚ ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใƒ  ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ˆใใ‚„ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚จใƒฌใƒŠใ€‚
19:53
else you would like to add here, Casse? Yeah. The part that I was really drawn to  
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ไป–ใซ่ฟฝๅŠ ใ—ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹ใ€Casse? ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚จใƒฌใƒŠใฎใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใง็งใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆƒนใ‹ใ‚ŒใŸใฎใฏใ€
19:57
in Elena's message was when she mentions that  community is not only beneficial when you're  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏ
20:03
learning a language, but also in other areas  of life. She mentions, you know, starting a  
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่จ€่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆ็ฟ’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€ไบบ็”Ÿใฎไป–ใฎๅˆ†้‡Žใงใ‚‚ๆœ‰็›Šใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๅฝผๅฅณใŒ่ฟฐในใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ ใ€‚ ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ€
20:08
family and raising children, and I can relate to  that myself. So I know that when I was pregnant,  
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ๅฎถๅบญใ‚’ๆŒใกใ€ๅญไพ›ใ‚’่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€็ง่‡ช่บซใ‚‚ๅ…ฑๆ„Ÿใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใŒๅฆŠๅจ ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจใใ€็งใฏ้€”ๆ–นใซๆšฎใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:14
I felt lost and, I felt like, oh, you know, no  one around me is pregnant, no one's there to give  
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็งใฎๅ‘จใ‚Šใซใฏ่ชฐใ‚‚ๅฆŠๅจ ใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ—ใ€
20:19
me advice. My mom had kids 30 years ago, so like,  she can't really help me. And, um, I think online  
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็งใซใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใ‚’ใใ‚Œใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฎๆฏใซใฏ 30 ๅนดๅ‰ใซๅญไพ›ใŒใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ
20:28
communities really helped me during that time. And  I think for a lot of people, I mean, it could be a  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏใ€ใใฎๆ™‚ๆœŸใซ็งใ‚’ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅŠฉใ‘ใฆใใ‚ŒใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅคšใใฎไบบใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
20:34
health issue, it could be, you know, like raising  kids. Some of us are living far away from our  
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ๅฅๅบทไธŠใฎๅ•้กŒใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ—ใ€ๅญไพ›ใ‚’่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฎไธญใซใฏใ€ไธก่ฆชใ‹ใ‚‰้ ใ้›ขใ‚Œใฆไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™
20:39
parents. We don't know what to do. Um, it could  be other things in your life that you want to,  
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ใ€‚ ใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ„ใฎใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ—ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”Ÿใฎไป–ใฎใ“ใจใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
20:45
um, you know, hear from other people, hear  what other people have to say. So when we,  
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ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ
20:49
when we think about this and we think about like,  feedback, right, so you might be, you know, asking  
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ใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ‰ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใใ€ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€
20:56
a question in a group or, um, asking for advice,  and there are people there that will generally  
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ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใง่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ“ใซใฏไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใซๅŠฉใ‘ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:03
help you out. So when we think about language  learning and we think about being in a group of,  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ขใ‚ฆใƒˆใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€่จ€่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’ใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒžใƒผใฎ ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใซๅฑžใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใ€
21:09
I don't know, gamers, um, you could ask your  question in, in English, and usually most  
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21:15
likely people will help you out whether that is  like, you know, giving you a little tip on, uh,  
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ไบบใ€…ใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‹ใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™ ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ณชๅ•ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ—ใŸใƒ’ใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Šใ€
21:21
maybe your, your what you're asking your question,  or they'll give you some advice, um, if you're  
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21:26
making mistakes. So you could ask them, because  you're usually all in the same boat, right?  
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21:30
You're usually all there for the same purpose. Alright. So now we have actually a really cool  
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21:35
clip that I got from a TED talk from Seth  Godin. And the talk is called The Tribes  
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ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎ่ฌ›ๆผ”ใฏ The Tribes We Lead ใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใพใ™
21:42
We Lead. And he's known for talking about the  importance of creating your tribe or building  
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21:48
your tribe. And it's really cool. Uh, one of  the things he talks about in this talk is how,  
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21:54
um, one of the best ways for you to sell your  products nowadays, or services or your ideas  
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่ฒฉๅฃฒใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎๆœ€่‰ฏใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใฎ 1 ใคใฏใ€
21:59
is by creating a community, by, you know, uh,  leading a tribe. Yeah. And he actually, um, gives  
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22:08
some nice examples of questions for us to  reflect when doing that. So, Thiago, could  
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you please play the clip for us and let's watch  it now, this one minute clip from the TED Talk. 
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22:18
Michelle Kaufman has pioneered new ways of  thinking about environmental architecture. She  
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ใƒŸใ‚ทใ‚งใƒซใƒปใ‚ซใ‚ฆใƒ•ใƒžใƒณใฏใ€็’ฐๅขƒๅปบ็ฏ‰ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„่€ƒใˆๆ–นใ‚’้–‹ๆ‹“ใ—ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ€
22:25
doesn't do it by quietly building one house at a  time. She does it by telling a story to people who  
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22:32
want to hear it, by connecting a tribe of people  who are desperate to be connected to each other  
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ใ€้‹ๅ‹•ใ‚’ไธปๅฐŽใ—ๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ‚’่ตทใ“ใ™ใ“ใจใงไบ’ใ„ใซใคใชใŒใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใจๅˆ‡ๆœ›ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใฎ้ƒจๆ—ใ‚’็ตใณใคใ‘ใพใ™
22:38
by leading a movement and making change.  And around and around and around it goes.  
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22:44
So three questions I'd offer you. The first  one is, who exactly are you upsetting?  
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ใงใฏใ€3 ใคใฎ่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ”็ดนไป‹ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ 1 ใค ็›ฎใฏใ€่ชฐใ‚’ๆ€’ใ‚‰ใ›ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
22:51
Because if you're not upsetting anyone, you're not  changing the status quo. The second question is,  
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22:56
who are you connecting? Because for a lot  of people, that's what they're in it for,  
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่ชฐใจใคใชใŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅคšใ ใฎไบบใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ็›ฎ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
23:01
the connections that are being made, one to the  other. And the third one is, who are you leading?  
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23:09
Because focusing on that part of it, not  the mechanics of what you're building,  
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23:14
but the who and the leading  part is where change comes. 
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23:18
Yeah, that was cool. Any thoughts, Casse? Yeah. I think that when we think about like,  
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23:25
the power of community, when we think  about how much further ideas or, I mean,  
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23:32
of course in business, that's an obvious thought  that one would have. The more people you have,  
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23:38
um, talking about your brand or about what you're  doing, obviously the further and the bigger your  
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23:44
business is going to expand. But I think about  like concepts. I mean, we, we live in a world  
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23:50
where like everything moves fast. And I think  it's, it's the same when we think about like,  
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23:55
um, tribes and communities. If you're, if you're  together, you're so much stronger when you're,  
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24:01
when you're united, you know? And he used some nice vocab here,  
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24:04
like pioneer for example, when someone is a  pioneer or to pioneer something. What's that? 
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24:12
So if you're a pioneer, you are among the first to  do something. So if you're a pioneer in the food  
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24:21
industry, maybe you created or developed something  unique that hasn't been invented yet, uh, in that  
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24:27
particular industry. So yeah, a pioneer would  be among the first to invent or do something. 
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ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใƒ‘ใ‚คใ‚ชใƒ‹ใ‚ขใฏ ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆœ€ๅˆใซ็™บๆ˜Žใ—ใŸใ‚ŠๅฎŸ่กŒใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใงใ™ใ€‚
24:33
The first question he asks is really  cool. Who are you upsetting? Yeah.  
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24:37
You should ask yourself that. Who are you  upsetting? Uh, what does that mean to upset? 
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24:42
So if you upset someone, you're causing them  to worry or be unhappy. Um, and if I connect  
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ๆ€’ใ‚‰ใ›ใฆใ—ใพใ†ใจใ€ใใฎไบบใ‚’ๅฟƒ้…ใ•ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ€ ไธๅนธใซใ•ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€้–‹ๆ‹“ๅฅ‰ไป•
24:49
that with your previous question about  pioneering, I think when you're pioneering  
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24:54
you're breaking those boundaries, right?  Because you're, no one has done this before,  
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24:58
so you are bound to upset someone, you're bound  to disrupt the current way that things are done  
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25:05
or the way that people think about things. And we can connect that with something else he  
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ใ‚„็‰ฉไบ‹ใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใฎ่€ƒใˆๆ–นใ‚’ๆททไนฑใ•ใ›ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ€็พ็Šถใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฝผใฎ็™บ่จ€ใจ้–ข้€ฃไป˜ใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
25:09
says, which is changing the status quo. Yeah.  So the status quo is, uh, the way things are,  
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25:16
you know, the way people think that things work  and you know, oh, it's always been like that,  
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ไบบใ€…ใŒ็‰ฉไบ‹ใŒๆฉŸ่ƒฝใ™ใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ใใ†ใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€
25:22
so let's keep doing it like that. Like you  don't question the things that you do every  
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ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็ถšใ‘ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†. ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซ็–‘ๅ•ใ‚’ๆŒใŸใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
25:26
day. Yeah. So what he's proposing here is for you  to change or to challenge the status quo. Like,  
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ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅฝผใŒใ“ใ“ใงๆๆกˆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€ ็พ็Šถใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ๆŒ‘ๆˆฆใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
25:33
okay, we do it like we do it this way, but  why isn't there a better way to do it? This  
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25:39
is changing or challenging the status quo. And  when you do that, you upset people, some people,  
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็พ็Šถใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใŸใ‚ŠๆŒ‘ๆˆฆใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ไบบใ‚’ๅ‹•ๆบใ•ใ›ใพใ™ใ€‚ไธ€้ƒจใฎไบบใฏ
25:44
it's inevitable, (True.) right? Some (Absolutely.)  people will not be open to this change, let's say.  
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้ฟใ‘ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚(ๆœฌๅฝ“ใงใ™ใ€‚) ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ? ไธ€้ƒจใฎ๏ผˆ็ตถๅฏพใซ๏ผ‰ ใ“ใฎๅค‰ๆ›ดใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใชใ„ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
25:50
Speaking of challenging the status quo. Yeah. You  know, I think we could bust some myths here about  
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็พ็Šถๆ‰“็ ดใจ่จ€ใˆใฐใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’ใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็ฅž่ฉฑใ‚’ๆ‰“ใก็ ดใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
25:57
English learning also, because some beliefs that  people have or some, uh, things that people say  
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ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ ไบบใ€…ใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไฟกๅฟตใ‚„ใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ๆ™‚ใ€…ไบบใ€…ใŒ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใงใ™
26:04
sometimes, yeah. You gotta live abroad to learn  English. Well, that's not true because, you know,  
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ใ€‚ ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใถใŸใ‚ใซๆตทๅค–ใซไฝใ‚€ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็œŸๅฎŸใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€
26:10
I am living proof of that guys, you know, I've  never been abroad and I speak English, you know,  
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26:14
so that's not true. Second point that I hear  all the time: you gotta spend a lot of money  
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ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใŒใ‚ˆใ่€ณใซใ™ใ‚‹ 2 ็•ช็›ฎใฎใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใฏใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใถใŸใ‚ใซ ๅคš้กใฎใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ไฝฟใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™
26:20
to learn English. That's not true either. I mean,  there's so many cool resources nowadays for free,  
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26:25
like you can actually use to learn the language. I  mean, you don't have to. And you gotta know people  
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26:32
who speak English in order for you to, you know,  become a, an English speaker. Not necessarily.  
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26:38
Yeah, because you know, again, going back to  the resources that we are talking about because  
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ใˆใˆใ€็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใƒ†ใ‚ฏใƒŽใƒญใ‚ธใƒผใฎ ใŸใ‚ใซ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚นใซๆˆปใ‚Šใพใ™
26:42
of technology, let's take the app for example,  the RealLife English app, which is really cool  
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26:47
because first of all, the app is free. It's free  to download, you can download, you can try it out  
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใพใš็ฌฌไธ€ใซใ€ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใฏ็„กๆ–™ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็„กๆ–™ ใงใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ—ใฆ่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™
26:52
already. Try some of the features there. And  with our app, you can also speak English with  
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ใ€‚ ใใ“ใงใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๆฉŸ่ƒฝใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใพใŸใ€ ็งใŸใกใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใ‚’ไฝฟใˆใฐใ€ไธ–็•Œไธญใฎไบบใ€…ใจ่‹ฑ่ชžใง่ฉฑใ™ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™
26:58
people from all over the world. At the touch  of a button you can connect with someone there  
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ใ€‚ ใƒœใ‚ฟใƒณใ‚’ๆŠผใ™ใ ใ‘ใงใ€ ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹่ชฐใ‹ใจใคใชใŒใ‚Šใ€
27:02
and have a 4 to 8-minute conversation with that  person. So, you know, these beliefs they don't  
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ใใฎไบบใจ 4๏ฝž8 ๅˆ†้–“ใฎไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใชใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚นใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎไฟกๅฟตใฏ
27:09
really apply anymore nowadays, because we  have so many cool resources like the app.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใงใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅฝ“ใฆใฏใพใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
28:13
Alright, Casse, so now onto the last  segment, talking about connecting  
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ใ‚ˆใ—ใ€ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใใ‚Œใงใฏๆœ€ๅพŒใฎ ใ‚ปใ‚ฐใƒกใƒณใƒˆใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ใคใชใใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™
29:21
your English. Now what comes to your mind  when you think of connecting your English? 
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29:27
So when I think about connecting my English,  I think about my why. You know, the principle  
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ใคใชใใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ ็†็”ฑใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
29:33
reason that I started studying or that, you know,  sort of drives me to perform all the different  
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29:40
actions. Why, you know, it's the thing that makes  me want to join that group on, on Telegram or on,  
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29:48
you know, a language exchange app. I, I want  to be part of something, but there's a why,  
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ใ€‚ ็งใ€ ไฝ•ใ‹ใฎไธ€้ƒจใซใชใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€็†็”ฑใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
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there's a reason. And I think that's what I, I  think is, is quite essential, right? You know,  
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29:58
understanding that motivation, understanding what  it is that fuels you to keep learning and to keep  
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ใใฎใƒขใƒใƒ™ใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ€ๅญฆ็ฟ’ใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ๅŽŸๅ‹•ๅŠ›ใจใชใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ€
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pushing and to keep going. If you think about  it, and if you keep, you know that in mind. If  
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ๅ‰้€ฒใ—็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ๅŽŸๅ‹•ๅŠ›ใจใชใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใ‚Œใฐ ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅฟƒใซ็•™ใ‚ใฆใŠใใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
30:11
you keep that at sort of the core of like your,  your day and your actions and your plans, then I  
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไธ€ๆ—ฅใ€่กŒๅ‹•ใ€่จˆ็”ปใชใฉใฎๆ ธๅฟƒใซ็ฝฎใ„ใฆใŠใ‘ใฐ ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š
30:17
think it makes it easier. It makes it easier to  feel courageous in those moments, you know, when  
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็ฐกๅ˜ใซใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซๅ‹‡ๆฐ—ใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚„ใ™ใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
30:24
you are, you're wondering, should I, you know,  speak to the stranger? Should I join that group? 
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่ฆ‹็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใฌไบบใจ ่ฉฑใ™ในใใ‹่ฟทใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ในใใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
30:29
And something else that comes to mind when we talk  about connecting your English is connecting it to  
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็ตใณใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใซ้ ญใซๆตฎใ‹ใถใ“ใจใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’
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your identity to who you are today and also to  who you envision yourself in the future. Uh,  
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใƒณใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใ‚ใชใŸใ€ใใ—ใฆ ๅฐ†ๆฅใฎใ‚ใชใŸ่‡ช่บซใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซ็ตใณใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™.
30:40
part of that is connecting your English to  your interests. So whatever your interests are,  
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ใใฎไธ€้ƒจใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใซ็ตใณใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ€
30:46
the topics, the media that you like to consume,  you do those things in English. And uh,  
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ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ๅฅฝใใชใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใŒไฝ•ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’่‹ฑ่ชžใง่กŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
30:52
when I think about that, that actually  reminded me of Ksenia because, you know,  
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ใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใ€ ใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒ‹ใ‚ขใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€
30:57
Ksenia is another team member here at RealLife  English. And um, we have the Fluency Circle Group,  
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ใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒ‹ใ‚ขใฏใ“ใ“ RealLife English ใฎๅˆฅใฎใƒใƒผใƒ  ใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ ใ€‚ Fluency Circle Group ใฏ
31:04
which is our group of students where, you know,  they have a lot of cool activities there, you  
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31:09
know, and quizzes and they share stuff together.  And now Ksenia actually has sent us a short video  
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ใ‚ฏใ‚คใ‚บใ‚’ๅ‡บใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ไธ€็ท’ใซๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆไปŠใ€Ksenia ใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ€
31:17
message talking a little bit about how the Fluency  Circle community helps people, the members there  
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Fluency Circle ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒไบบใ€…ใ‚’ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ”ฏๆดใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใŒ
31:23
connect their English to something bigger than  themselves. I think, Casse, you touched on that  
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๅคงใใชใ‚‚ใฎใซ็ตใณใคใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆใ€็Ÿญใ„ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’้€ไฟกใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎๅ‰ๅŠใง่งฆใ‚ŒใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ
31:28
earlier in the episode, yeah, about connecting  your English to something bigger. Uh, it's not  
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ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคงใใชไฝ•ใ‹ใซใคใชใ’ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
31:33
just about the English language itself. So  let's see what Ksenia has to say about that. 
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่‹ฑ่ชž่‡ชไฝ“ใ ใ‘ใฎๅ•้กŒใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใงใฏใ€ ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ Ksenia ใŒไฝ•ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใ‚คใƒžใ‚ธใƒŠใƒชใƒผ ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒณใƒ‰ใจใ„ใ†
31:38
Are you familiar with the idea of an  imaginary friend? The one who's always  
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ๆฆ‚ๅฟตใ‚’ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ™ใ‹ ๏ผŸ
31:46
there for you when you need them, or the  idle one to hang out with all the time?  
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Now imagine that this friend is not an imaginary,  but a real one. And it's not only one friend, but  
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ใ“ใฎๅ‹ไบบใŒๆƒณๅƒไธŠใฎๅ‹ไบบใงใฏใชใใ€็พๅฎŸใฎๅ‹ไบบใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ 1 ไบบใฎๅ‹้”ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€
31:59
hundreds of English-speaking friends from around  the world in one place. This is our RealLife  
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ไธ–็•Œไธญใ‹ใ‚‰่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’่ฉฑใ™ไฝ•็™พไบบใ‚‚ใฎๅ‹้”ใŒ 1 ใ‹ๆ‰€ใซ้›†ใพใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€็งใŸใกใฎ RealLife
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English Fluency Circle group, where people  gather together not only for learning English,  
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English Fluency Circle ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใงใ™ใ€‚ไบบใ€…ใฏใ€ ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใถใŸใ‚ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š
32:16
they're there for something bigger,  but English becomes the integral part  
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ๅคงใใชไฝ•ใ‹ใฎใŸใ‚ใซใใ“ใซ้›†ใพใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ ่‹ฑ่ชžใฏๆ—ฅๅธธ็”Ÿๆดปใฎไธๅฏๆฌ ใช้ƒจๅˆ†ใจใชใ‚Šใ€
32:21
of their daily lives that connects them  all together in one global community.  
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1 ใคใฎใ‚ฐใƒญใƒผใƒใƒซ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใงใ™ในใฆใฎไบบใ‚’็ตใณใคใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚
32:30
People there learn and have fun  together, encourage and support  
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ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใฏใ€ไธ€็ท’ใซๅญฆใณใ€ๆฅฝใ—ใฟ ใ€ไบ’ใ„ใซๅŠฑใพใ—ๅˆใ„ใ€ๆ”ฏใˆๅˆใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™
32:34
each other. They grow together and they  also build the world beyond borders. 
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ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅ…ฑใซๆˆ้•ทใ—ใ€ ๅ›ฝๅขƒใ‚’่ถŠใˆใฆไธ–็•Œใ‚’ๆง‹็ฏ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
32:40
Nice. You've had some nice experiences  with the Fluency Circle, right, Casse? 
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่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚ Fluency Circle ใง็ด ๆ•ตใช็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆ ใญใ€Casse?
32:45
Yeah. But before I talk about that, I wanna say  that Ksenia did such a beautiful job. Like with  
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ๅ‰ใซใ€ ใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒ‹ใ‚ขใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใจ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
32:51
the storytelling there, you know, she painted  a beautiful picture where we were like, oh,  
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ใใ“ใฎใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใƒ†ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฐใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏ็พŽใ—ใ„็ตตใ‚’ๆใ„ใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€๏ผˆ
32:56
(Imagine,) intriguing, (right?) where's  this going? This imaginary friend.  
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ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„๏ผ‰่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ใใใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸ๏ผˆใใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ๏ผ‰ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใฉใ“ใซ่กŒใใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ“ใฎใ‚คใƒžใ‚ธใƒŠใƒชใƒผใƒ•ใƒฌใƒณใƒ‰ใ€‚
33:01
Um. " It's a good copywriting. 
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33:04
It is excellent. Um, yeah, I, I, I have had the  privilege of, um, having live lessons with the  
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33:14
Fluency Circle, and I think it's, there's  something really magical and special about  
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33:21
this diverse group of people from around the  world: Japan, Korea, Germany, like India, like  
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ไธ–็•Œไธญใฎไบบใ€… : ๆ—ฅๆœฌใ€้Ÿ“ๅ›ฝใ€ใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒ„ใ€ใ‚คใƒณใƒ‰ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
33:28
it's, Brazil. It's, it's amazing, Peru. I was,  I'm always amazed and even like, uh, you know,  
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ใใ‚Œใฏใƒ–ใƒฉใ‚ธใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใฏใ€้ฉšใในใใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€ใƒšใƒซใƒผใ€‚
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some African countries as well. Like, it's always  literally, as she said, building their, building  
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..ๅฝผๅฅณใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅธธใซๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๆง‹็ฏ‰ใ€
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this world beyond borders. But what I would say  is that what makes it special is that, you know,  
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ๅ›ฝๅขƒใ‚’่ถŠใˆใŸใ“ใฎไธ–็•Œใฎๆง‹็ฏ‰ใงใ™.ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€ใใ‚Œ ใŒ็‰นๅˆฅใช็†็”ฑใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
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we're not having a, a regular class where there's  a teacher and I'm, I'm there to, uh, tell, teach  
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็งใŸใกใฏ้€šๅธธใฎใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚นใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™. ๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใจ็งใฏใ€
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them something that they didn't know before. It's  more like this group of people literally coming  
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒไปฅๅ‰ใซ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™.ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ ใ“ใฎไบบใ€…ใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใŒๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Š
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together to, I feel like they're building each  other up. They're saying like, there's not only,  
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้›†ใพใฃใฆใ€ใŠไบ’ใ„ใ‚’็ฏ‰ใไธŠใ’ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ . ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒ‹ใ‚ขใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
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it's not only about English, as Ksenia said,  it's like a support group. Like saying, I,  
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ ใ‘ใงใฏใชใใ€ ๆ”ฏๆดใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็งใฏใ€
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I, I'm, I get you, I'm with you. Um, I've been  through what you've, what you are going through,  
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็งใฏใ€็งใฏใ€็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใŸใ“ใจใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€
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and I'm gonna help you. I'm going to motivate you.  So you have students motivating students, learners  
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚‹ๆฐ—ใซใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅญฆ็”ŸใŒๅญฆ็”Ÿใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚‹ๆฐ—ใซใ•ใ›ใ€ๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใŒ
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motivating learners, and some of them, a lot of  them are teachers in this group, which is amazing  
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ๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚‹ๆฐ—ใซใ•ใ›ใ€ใใฎใ†ใกใฎไฝ•ไบบใ‹ใฏใ€ๅคšใใŒ ใ“ใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎๆ•™ๅธซใงใ™ใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
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actually. So they're, they're literally inspiring  each other and motivating each other. And through  
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ้ฉšใในใใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šไบ’ใ„ใซๅˆบๆฟ€ใ—ๅˆใ„ ใ€ๅˆบๆฟ€ใ—ๅˆใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€
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this sort of storytelling and, and sharing of  experiences, I think there's this, um, unity,  
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ใ“ใฎ็จฎใฎใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใƒ†ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฐใจ ็ตŒ้จ“ใฎๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ‚’้€šใ˜ใฆใ€ๅ›ฃ็ตใฎ
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like solidarity. Like, uh, I, I understand you and  I've been there and this is what I did. And, and  
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ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ›ฃ็ตใŒ็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’็†่งฃใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็งใฏ ใใ“ใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒใ—ใŸใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€
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this might help you as well, so you don't feel  alone. Because I think that's the one thing that,  
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใซใ‚‚ๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ๅญค็‹ฌใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
34:50
uh, can feel quite scary, you know, when you're  learning a language and you give up so easily  
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่ชžๅญฆใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ€็ฐกๅ˜ใซใ‚ใใ‚‰ใ‚ใฆใ—ใพใ†ใฎใฏใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆ€–ใ„ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
34:55
because, uh, I, I don't know, you know, I don't  have anyone who, who's going through this with  
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ ็ง ใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฏใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“
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me. So there's that, and I think it's, it's, it's  just wonderful. It's really, really inspiring. 
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆ„Ÿๅ‹•็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚
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Yeah. Well said. I can't top that now. Now I have  to wrap up the episode. Yeah. That was really  
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ˆใ่จ€ใฃใŸใ€‚ ็งใฏไปŠใใ‚Œใ‚’่ถ…ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’็ท ใ‚ใใใ‚‰ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ
35:12
cool. Uh, but dear listeners, today, we gave you  some examples about different kinds of community,  
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ใ‹ใฃใ“ใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€่ฆชๆ„›ใชใ‚‹ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฎ็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ€ ใ•ใพใ–ใพใช็จฎ้กžใฎใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไพ‹ใ‚’ใ„ใใคใ‹็ดนไป‹ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใปใ‚‰ใ€
35:17
you know, uh, and how community can help  you, again, be a better English learner,  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใ‹ใ€็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใซใชใ‚‹ใ ใ‘
35:23
but not just that, but also better person. But  now we wanna ask you, what is your experience  
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ใงใชใใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ไบบ้–“ใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใงใฏใ€
35:28
about being part of a community? I mean, uh, are  you part of a community? And how does it help you  
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ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไธ€ๅ“กใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆใ€ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ใŠๆŒใกใงใ™ใ‹? ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไธ€ๅ“กใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใพใŸใ€
35:34
be a better learner or a better person? We are  curious to hear your story and your experience.  
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ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใ‚„ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ไบบ้–“ใซใชใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ‹? ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่ฉฑใจใ‚ใชใŸใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’่žใใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎไธ€ๅ“กใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจ
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So write to us sharing your experience about  being part of a community. You can send us  
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ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎใ‚ใชใŸใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚
35:44
an email at hello@reallifeglobal.com. Or  if you're watching us here on YouTube,  
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hello@reallifeglobal.com ใพใงใƒกใƒผใƒซใ‚’ใŠ้€ใ‚Šใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใพใŸใฏใ€ YouTube ใง็งใŸใกใ‚’ใ”่ฆงใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€
35:49
you can just simply live us a comment down below.  Alright? So that's it for today, guys. Stay tuned  
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ไธ‹ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ใใฎใพใพใŠ้€ใ‚Šใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ๅคงไธˆๅคซ๏ผŸ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ“ใ“ใพใงใงใ™ใ€‚
35:56
for next week's episode and thank you so much for  listening, for watching, and I'll see you soon.  
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ๆฅ้€ฑใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใซใ”ๆœŸๅพ…ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ” ่ฆ–่ดใ„ใŸใ ใใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใพใŸใŠไผšใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
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All right. So 1, 2, 3. Aww (Aww) yeah. (yeah.)
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