Simple Way to Improve Your English TOGETHER (with Other People) โ€” Podcast

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Community gives you the chance to apply what youย  learned, so yes, input is important yeah studyingย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š” ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณต ํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ์˜ˆ, ์ž…๋ ฅ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์˜ˆ ๊ณต๋ถ€
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consuming content, consuming information, butย  you have to apply and Community offers you thatย ย 
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์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ  ์†Œ๋น„, ์ •๋ณด ์†Œ๋น„, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š”
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safe space. It's beautiful, it's a beautifulย  way of thinking of it when we feed ourselvesย ย 
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์•ˆ์ „ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋จน์ผ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
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with different perspectives, we're enriching ourย  own knowledge, we're broadening our perspectiveย ย 
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๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ง€์‹์„ ํ’๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๋„“ํžˆ๊ณ 
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on the world, we're understanding other peopleย  better, we're seeing the world differently, right.
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, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ , ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ผ, ๋งž์•„.
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Alright, so I'm joined today in the globalย  studio once again by the one, the only Casse.ย 
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์ž, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์— ๋‹จ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ Casse์™€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Hey, Thiago. Hey guys. Alright, guys. So today we are talking all aboutย ย 
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์ด๋ด, ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ . ์–˜๋“ค ์•„. ์ข‹์•„, ์–˜๋“ค ์•„. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
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community and why being a part of a community canย  help you become a better learner and also a betterย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ์ผ์›์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ํ•™์Šต์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ๋” ๋‚˜์€
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person. So guys, uh, let's get started here andย  Casse, I guess it's bet(ter) it's good to defineย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์–ด, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Casse, ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ๋จผ์ € ์ •์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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community first. What do we mean by community? Well, a community is generally a group of peopleย ย 
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. ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์Œ, ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
01:42
who share the same space, so this could beย  physically or virtually, and they sort ofย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
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come together for a common goal or common purpose.ย  Either they live together or they come together,ย ย 
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๊ณตํ†ต์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ชฉ์ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
01:56
you know, to share ideas, experiences, or, youย  know, resources of some kind. So a communityย ย 
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์•„์ด๋””์–ด, ๊ฒฝํ—˜ ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ž์›์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ณตํ†ต ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ณตํ†ต ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ
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would be a group of people coming together withย  sort of a common interest or a common goal.ย 
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๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
02:09
Yeah. That's a great definition. Uh, doย  you have any examples, by the way, to give?ย 
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์‘. ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ •์˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
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Sure. A community could be a group of friendsย  who, you know, enjoy the same things and theyย ย 
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ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๋Š”. ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
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come together to, you know, enjoy activitiesย  together, like sport or, you know, movies orย ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์—ฌ์„œ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋‚˜ ์˜ํ™”, ๋˜๋Š”
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just other things they have in common. It could beย  that you're, you all love dancing or you all areย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ™œ๋™์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ฆ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ถค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
02:34
English learners and you come together to, to talkย  about that or to relate to one another on thatย ย 
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์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์—ฌ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•ด๋‹น ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„œ๋กœ ๊ณต๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„
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topic or because of the interest that you share. By the way, I loved the way you said dancing. Canย ย 
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ถค์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:46
you say that again? Dancing.ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋Œ„์Šค.
02:48
Dancing. Wow. Is that correct? How, I mean, myย  pronunciation: dancing. Is that it? (Yes) Yeah, Iย ย 
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๋Œ„์Šค. ์šฐ์™€. ๊ทธ ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚ด ๋ฐœ์Œ: ์ถค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ? (์˜ˆ) ๋„ค,
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like that. Yeah. (Dancing.) It's a, it'sย  a different way of saying dancing. Yeah?ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ์‘. (์ถค์„ ์ถฅ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.) ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ถค์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘?
03:00
Sorry for laughing. Yes, it is. I didn't realizeย  it was different. Dancing. Dancing. Yeah. Dancing.ย 
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์›ƒ์–ด์„œ ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ด. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„์Šค. ๋Œ„์Šค. ์‘. ๋Œ„์Šค.
03:07
Yeah. I don't know if it's more alongย  the lines of British English. Yeah? Theย ย 
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์‘. ์˜๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด์— ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘?
03:11
way you're (Yeah.) saying it, right. Dancing, butย  yeah, I mean I had to point that out because whenย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด (์˜ˆ.) ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ
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you said thatit was like, oh wow, look at that.ย  That's cool. That's cool. So another example I canย ย 
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๋งํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์˜ค ์™€์šฐ, ์ €๊ฒƒ ์ข€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”. ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ๋Š”
03:22
give here is a school network. So if you studyย  at a school or if you take any kind of course,ย ย 
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ํ•™๊ต ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
03:29
the people you study with, the people thatย  go to the same school that you go to, uh,ย ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ๊ฐ™์€ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์–ด,
03:34
that could be considered a community as well.ย  That actually reminds me of my days back whenย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์ฃผ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค
03:40
I was teaching English in language schools hereย  in Brazil. And, um, there was this school thatย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์˜ ์–ดํ•™์›์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค๋˜ ์‹œ์ ˆ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์Œ,
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I worked at and, uh, we started doing these liveย  events with students. Basically, we would gatherย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ผํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์–ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
03:53
everybody, all the students from all levels, allย  classrooms, you know, and we would do somethingย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ๋ชจ๋“  ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ•™์ƒ, ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ต์‹ค์„ ๋ชจ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
03:59
cultural together, you know. And, there was thisย  one time I did a "Beatles night" there with theย ย 
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๋ฌธํ™”์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ '๋น„ํ‹€์ฆˆ์˜ ๋ฐค'์„ ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
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students and it was really fun. We, you know,ย  played and sang Beatles songs together and thenย ย 
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์ •๋ง ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋น„ํ‹€์ฆˆ์˜ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ
04:12
I told them a little bit about the history ofย  the band, how they were formed, and, you know,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐด๋“œ์˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ , ๋ฐด๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฐ์„ฑ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
04:17
what happened to them after that. So, yeah, Iย  mean, that was a, a great example. As a matterย ย 
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๊ทธ ํ›„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ์ œ ๋ง์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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of fact, I do have a, a short footage of thatย  day. So Thiago, if you could briefly play for us,ย ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๊ทธ๋‚ ์˜ ์งง์€ ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ , ์ž ์‹œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด
04:28
that'd be cool. Yeah. Just to show you, Casse, howย  it went, yeah, it was really cool. Check it out.
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๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. Casse, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™•์ธ ํ•ด๋ด.
04:36
That was cool. Yeah, that was a, a great night.ย  And I think that was the first time we didย ย 
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๋ฉ‹์กŒ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ฐค์ด์—ˆ์–ด. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:57
something like that. And, the school started doingย  these events more and more. And, uh, nowadaysย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์–ด, ์š”์ฆ˜
05:03
I think they're still doing it with otherย  teachers, you know, it kind of caught on,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ
05:07
but yeah, that was a great example of a schoolย  network community that you can have there. Yeah.ย 
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์ง€๋งŒ, ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•™๊ต ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
05:13
Yeah. And what I love most about it is thatย  like, yes, they're all English learners, butย ย 
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž์ด์ง€๋งŒ
05:21
the purpose is greater than that. And that's theย  point we're making today, right? Like, they're,ย ย 
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๋ชฉ์ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์š”์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
05:25
they're not sitting there with their notebooksย  and pens, like, you know, writing down the, your,ย ย 
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๊ณต์ฑ…๊ณผ ํŽœ์„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
05:29
the instructions you're giving them. They'reย  literally like enjoying, they're in the momentย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ง€์นจ์„ ์ ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„
05:33
repeating and they're singing it along. I loveย  that. It's, it's creative and it's (Yeah,) fun.ย 
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๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ด๊ณ  (์˜ˆ) ์žฌ๋ฏธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:38
it's definitely a way of living your English.ย  Yeah. You just, uh, just live it. Yeah. Just enjoyย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์ƒํ™œ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ, ์–ด, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‚ด์•„์š”. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฆ๊ธฐ์„ธ์š”
05:43
it. Another example of community we can give hereย  is meet up events. So maybe a language exchangeย ย 
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. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ์ž„ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜
05:49
programs, you know, maybe you go to anotherย  country to study there for a while and thenย ย 
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ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ
05:53
you meet other students or other people thereย  that could be part of a community. That couldย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™์ƒ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
05:58
be an example of community. Uh, even the eventsย  that RealLife English used to do back in the dayย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด RealLife English๊ฐ€
06:04
many years ago, uh, RealLife English used to hostย  or hold these personal, in-person events where,ย ย 
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์ˆ˜๋…„ ์ „์— ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋„, ์–ด, RealLife English๋Š”
06:13
you know, teachers, learners, they would getย  together at a bar for example, and just enjoyย ย 
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๊ต์‚ฌ, ํ•™์Šต์ž๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ ๋Œ€๋ฉด ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ตœํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฐœ์ตœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ˆ ์ง‘์—์„œ
06:19
being together, practicing their English,ย  maybe having a few drinks. Yeah. So (Yeah,)ย ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ , ์ˆ ์„ ๋ช‡ ์ž” ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ (์˜ˆ)
06:24
that's another example that comes to mind.ย  Yeah. What else would you give here, Casse?ย 
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์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋˜ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ฃผ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, Casse?
06:29
I would say that definitely social media, likeย  anything online, like we are all doing it in oneย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:37
way or another. Like, we have our WhatsApp groups,ย  we have our Facebook, Telegram, different groups,ย ย 
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. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” WhatsApp ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  Facebook, Telegram,
06:44
you know, that we use to connect with people. And,ย  um, in my case, I've used quite a few languageย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Œ, ์ œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์Œ,
06:51
exchange apps to, um, help me with Portuguese, butย  also other languages. And I think this is a greatย ย 
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ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์€ ์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜ ์•ฑ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
06:59
way of like, connecting with someone and, youย  know, sharing a part of yourself. And then also,ย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ํ•œ
07:04
you know, receiving knowledge or differentย  perspective or different, there's, there'sย ย 
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ง€์‹์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์  ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
07:09
deeper layers to, you know, language exchange.ย  So I think with, uh, language exchange groups,ย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜์— ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๊ณ„์ธต์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜ ๊ทธ๋ฃน
07:15
that's also a nice example, but social mediaย  in general, whether it's Instagram, TikTok,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋Š” Instagram์ด๋“ , TikTok์ด๋“ 
07:20
you know, you're commenting, you're watchingย  a video. I have recently started following,ย ย 
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋‹ฌ๊ณ  ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ์—
07:25
uh, a random account because this woman postsย  like really fun videos. And I'm learning, likeย ย 
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์–ด, ์ด ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™์˜์ƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ž„์˜์˜ ๊ณ„์ •์„ ํŒ”๋กœ์šฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”
07:33
reading the comments, I feel like I'm learningย  something about her culture. So the point isย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋“ค์–ด์š”. ์š”์ ์€
07:39
that when we join these, when we follow people onย  social media, when we join groups or communities,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํŒ”๋กœ์šฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด๋‚˜ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•  ๋•Œ
07:43
uh, like that, we are also, you know, connectingย  with people who share a similar interest or ideasย ย 
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์–ด, ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๋‚˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š”
07:50
or worldviews or things like that. So definitelyย  I'd say social media and online communities are,ย ย 
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์„ธ๊ณ„๊ด€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์™€ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ
07:57
are also a great example of that. Cool. You did say something cool there. Youย ย 
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๋„ ๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์›ํ•œ. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ง์„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
08:02
said deeper layers, yeah, social media has deeperย  layers, I guess you said. Uh, what does that mean,ย ย 
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๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๊ณ„์ธต์„ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋Š” ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๊ณ„์ธต์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด,
08:07
when something has deeper layers or deeper layers? So when we talk about something having deeperย ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ์ธต ๋˜๋Š” ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ์ธต์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ์ธต์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ
08:12
layers, I mean that there's more to it than meetsย  the eye. Like what you see might look like it's,ย ย 
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, ๋ˆˆ์— ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
08:19
you know, it's one thing, but there's a lotย  more the deeper you go into it, like there's,ย ย 
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š”
08:25
there's more to it than then we think, thenย  we initially think, or then we initiallyย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฒ˜์Œ์— ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฒ˜์Œ์—
08:30
can imagine, right? (That's cool. ) So yeah. Likeย ย 
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ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด๋ด, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€? (๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”.) ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
08:33
a cake, you know, many layers. Uh, I can also think about gaming,ย ย 
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์ผ€์ดํฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฒน์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ๋‚˜๋„ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด,
08:38
right, Casse, I mean, uh, nowadays there areย  so many gaming communities, yeah? People whoย ย 
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๋งž์•„, Casse, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์–ด, ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„, ๊ทธ์น˜?
08:42
love video games, they play online together.ย  That's a great example. That actually remindsย ย 
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๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
08:47
me of Humbert, because Humbard, one of our teamย  members, he has recently sent us a really coolย ย 
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Humbert๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํŒ€์› ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ธ Humbard๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„
08:53
video message sharing his experience with howย  being a part of a community helped him live hisย ย 
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๋™์˜์ƒ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ์ผ์›์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์ƒํ™œ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:00
English. And just to be clear here, uh, what,ย  what do we mean by living your English? We meanย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ์–ด, ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์‚ฐ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
09:05
making English part of her day-to-day routine.ย  Okay? You consume stuff in English daily, yeah,ย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ผ์ƒ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”? ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ,
09:11
not because you have to learn it or study it, butย  because you enjoy it and it's just something thatย ย 
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๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
09:16
is always there. It's part of your life. Okay. Andย  you do it every day. So, um, I thought it wouldย ย 
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹  ์‚ถ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์ผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์Œ,
09:22
be cool for us to actually watch, uh, the clipย  where Humbert shares his experience, and Thiago,ย ย 
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Humbert๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  Thiago๊ฐ€
09:27
could you please roll it? And let's see. Okay. So for me, community was reallyย ย 
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๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ํด๋ฆฝ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณด์ž. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š”
09:32
important in several aspects of my life, butย  certain, certainly the most important one,ย ย 
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์ œ ์‚ถ์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
09:39
I think, is that, uh, you as a creative, me asย  a creative, uh, if you're a creative person,ย ย 
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—, ์–ด, ์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋กœ์„œ์˜ ๋‹น์‹ , ์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์ €๋Š”, ์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋ผ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ,
09:46
you need to feed yourself with differentย  perspectives. Like the more perspectives you know,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋จน์ผ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„๋Š” ๊ด€์ ์ด
09:53
the more experiences that you can hear from peopleย  that come from very different places in the worldย ย 
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๋งŽ์„์ˆ˜๋ก ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด
09:59
will benefit you and will nurture your way ofย  seeing things, the way you feel things, the wayย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹, ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹, ์ž์‹ ๋งŒ
10:09
you create your own ideas, the way you create yourย  own, uh, position and point of view about things.ย ย 
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์˜ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํ‚ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค , ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž์‹ ๋งŒ์˜ ์œ„์น˜์™€ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:19
So that definitely for me, was one of theย  biggest things when it comes to community.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:26
I, I absolutely love what he's saying because Iย  love the point he's making about how communityย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
10:35
helps you develop, basically broaden yourย  perspective on the world. Because he uses,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฐœ์ „์„ ๋•๊ณ , ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๋„“ํžˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์š”์ ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
10:42
he says it really beautifully - he says, feedย  yourself different perspectives. So what doย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ด€์ ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
10:47
we do when we feed, when we, we are feeding, weย  literally have to take something. It's an action,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋จน์ผ ๋•Œ, ๋จน์ผ ๋•Œ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:51
taking something and putting it intoย  your body. Now think of that with, like,ย ย 
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋ชธ์— ๋„ฃ๋Š” ํ–‰์œ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ด์ œ
10:55
someone else's perspective. You're going, okay, Iย  hear what you're saying. Oh, I read this book. Iย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„, ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”
11:00
like what he's saying. I'm watching a TED talk,ย  I like what this... so I'm taking that and I'mย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” TED ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค์–ด์š”... ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
11:04
putting it into my, taking it into myself. Andย  it's beautiful. It's a beautiful way of thinkingย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:11
of it. When we feed ourself, ourselves differentย  perspectives, we enriching our own knowledge,ย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ์ง€์‹์„ ํ’๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๋•Œ
11:18
we're broadening our perspective on the world.ย  We're understanding other people better. We're,ย ย 
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์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๋„“ํž ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”,
11:23
um, seeing the world differently, right?ย  So I think that's really absolutely true.ย 
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์Œ, ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:28
And he also used a nice word there. He said,ย  nur, he said nurture. Yeah. What does itย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ๋„ ์ข‹์€ ๋ง์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค, nur, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์–‘์œกํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
11:33
mean to nurture? You nurture something. Yeah. So to nurture means to care for orย ย 
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์–‘์œกํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์–‘์œกํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์–‘์œกํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜
11:40
develop, encourage the growth or developmentย  of something or someone. So we can nurture ourย ย 
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์„ฑ์žฅ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฐœ์ „์„ ๋ณด์‚ดํ”ผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
11:46
children by, you know, making sure that they go toย  school, that they're fed and cared for. Um, we canย ย 
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์Œ์‹์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ๋ณด์‚ดํ•Œ์„ ๋ฐ›๋„๋ก ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์–‘์œกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
11:53
nurture our minds as well, our, our, our thoughtsย  by, you know, feeding ourselves the right, uh,ย ย 
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๋˜ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์–‘์œกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋จน์ด
12:00
things or exposing our ourselves to, to peopleย  and things that are good for us, that make us feelย ย 
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๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋…ธ์ถœ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๊ณผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„
12:07
good, and that help us develop in life. Yeah. Thank you so much Humbert, for sending yourย ย 
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์ข‹๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:13
message and sharing your experience with us. Thatย  was amazing. Uh, just a quick reminder here, uh,ย ย 
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. ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์–ด
12:18
for you, in case you are watching us here onย  YouTube or listening to us on Apple Podcast,ย ย 
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, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ YouTube์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜์‹œ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ Apple Podcast,
12:23
Spotify, or any other place, we highly recommendย  you download the RealLife English app. Okay?ย ย 
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Spotify ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด RealLife English ์•ฑ์„ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ ๊ทน ๊ถŒ์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”?
12:29
Why? Because you can listen to our podcast, toย  this podcast right now, uh, with an interactiveย ย 
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์™œ? ์ €ํฌ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ˜• ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋“ค์œผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:34
transcript. You know, so it's really cool. Yeah.ย  If you wanna follow along what we are saying,ย ย 
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. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
12:39
yeah, make sure you're downloaded. It's free.ย  I'm gonna leave the link in the descriptionย ย 
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๋„ค, ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ๋‘๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:42
here. If you're watching us on YouTube or just goย  to your favorite app store, alright, Google Playย ย 
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. YouTube์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์•ฑ ์Šคํ† ์–ด๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜์—ฌ Google Play
12:47
Store or Apple App Store and search for RealLifeย  English. Alright. Now moving on, Casse, we alsoย ย 
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์Šคํ† ์–ด ๋˜๋Š” Apple App Store์—์„œ RealLife English๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Casse, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ
12:54
got a couple of nice messages from some of ourย  students, uh, Marco and Elena, they sent us some,ย ย 
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์ผ๋ถ€ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์–ด, Marco์™€ Elena๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:01
um, yeah, they sent us an audio message,ย  also sharing their experience with communityย ย 
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์Œ, ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์Œ์„ฑ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:05
and why it is important to them. So we'reย  starting with Marco's message here. Let'sย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ Marco์˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:10
listen to what he has to say about that topic. Hi guys. I think that there are many ways inย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
13:16
which, um, community has helped me on improvingย  English. I think first of all, it's because,ย ย 
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์Œ, ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค ๋จผ์ € ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
13:23
I mean, at the end of the day, like English,ย  it's just language, so I mean, the usefulnessย ย 
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ์˜์–ด์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์–ธ์–ด์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
13:30
of a language is like to communicate. So I thinkย  that it would be like useful, useless, or, uh, inย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด์˜ ์œ ์šฉ์„ฑ์€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ์˜ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ ์šฉํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์“ธ๋ชจ ์—†๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์–ด, ํ—›๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:38
vain if you learn a language without choosing toย  communicate with other people. So that's a reallyย ย 
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13:43
useful, having a community on which you canย  practice and improve your usage of the language.ย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ์„ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์œ ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:51
Biggest help from, uh, at community level was,ย  like, from the RealLife Fluency Circle. I've beenย ย 
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์–ด, ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋„์›€์€ RealLife Fluency Circle๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š”
13:58
here since, uh, July, 2018. And it's really greatย  because I can practice English on a day-to-dayย ย 
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2018๋…„ 7์›”๋ถ€ํ„ฐ, ์–ด, 7์›”๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด๊ณณ์— ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:08
life. I mean, nowadays I'm living in Australia,ย  but even when I was, for instance, in Italy,ย ย 
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. ์ œ ๋ง์€, ์š”์ฆ˜ ์ €๋Š” ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋„
14:14
I wouldn't have had the opportunity to practiceย  English on a daily basis with, without thisย ย 
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์ด ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:21
community. Aside from that, I also participate onย  other kind of meetings when whenever I travel, Iย ย 
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. ๊ทธ ์™ธ์—๋„ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ
14:30
use an app called Meetup, which is really useful.ย  It's really widespread. You can find in almostย ย 
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๋ฐ‹์—…์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์•ฑ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ชจ์ž„์—๋„ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ์œ ์šฉํ•ด์š”. ์ •๋ง ๋„๋ฆฌ ํผ์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ–‰์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์˜จ
14:37
every country, and you can meet people fromย  different kind of events. I go to stuff like,ย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €๋Š”
14:44
Language Exchange and, or sport activitiesย  like playing football, go for a hike or,ย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜ ๋ฐ/๋˜๋Š” ์ถ•๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ํ™œ๋™, ํ•˜์ดํ‚น,
14:52
um, go running. So it also helps me on practice myย  English and connect with, uh, like-minded people.ย 
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์Œ, ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ๋“ฑ์„ ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์ œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:01
So Casse, one thing that stood out to meย  about Marco's message was the part when heย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Casse, Marco์˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์—์„œ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š”
15:06
says that community gives you the chanceย  to practice your English every day. Andย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
15:10
that's true. Yeah. If you are part of a group,ย  you can always, you know, send the messages,ย ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฃน์˜ ์ผ์›์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
15:14
maybe, uh, jump on a call with the people thereย  and practice your English every day about whateverย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„, ์–ด, ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:20
topic you're interested in. What about you? Whatย  caught your attention the most about his message?ย 
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ˆˆ๊ธธ์„ ๋ˆ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
15:24
I think what I like mostย  about his message is when heย ย 
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๊ทธ์˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“œ๋Š” ์ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€
15:26
talks about, you know, having the opportunityย  to connect with like-minded people,ย ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:32
I think it's really, I guess it makes us veryย  anxious or nervous when we think about, like,ย ย 
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15:38
going into a community space, especially online orย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ ๊ณต๊ฐ„, ํŠนํžˆ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
15:41
being part of a group where you're sort ofย  an outsider or, you know, people think one,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์™ธ๋ถ€์ธ์ธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์˜ ์ผ์›์ด ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ ,
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think about things in one way, and maybeย  you have a different view, so you feelย ย 
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ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ,
15:51
like an outsider, but usually if you, you know,ย  connect with the right people, if you're in theย ย 
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์™ธ๋ถ€์ธ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
15:56
right groups, you're gonna feel like Marco. You'reย  gonna be able to connect with like-minded people,ย ย 
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์ ์ ˆํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด Marco๊ฐ€ ๋œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:01
which means connecting with people who shareย  the same views, who share the same ideas,ย ย 
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์ฆ‰, ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒฌํ•ด, ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
16:06
and maybe not even exactly identicalย  views or ideas. I think maybe who justย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋‚˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:12
think about things in a similar way. So it's notย  that you, you have the same thoughts or your ideasย ย 
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๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹๊นŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€
16:18
are identical or the same, but they're similar. Uh, something else that community helps you withย ย 
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๋™์ผํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋™์ผํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋•๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€
16:24
is activating your English. By activating your,ย  your English we mean studying English in a moreย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€ํ•˜ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:30
deliberate way. Yes. So yes, it's good to liveย  your English, to consume content in English, butย ย 
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. ์˜ˆ. ์˜ˆ, ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ƒํ™œํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์ง€๋งŒ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
16:35
also it's important for you to be more intentionalย  or deliberate sometimes with your practice. Soย ย 
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๋” ์˜๋„์  ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
16:41
let's say for example, that you have been studyingย  a specific set of vocabulary, maybe some phrasalย ย 
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํŠน์ • ์–ดํœ˜ ์„ธํŠธ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„
16:46
verbs with Take, you know, uh, you can go toย  your community, to your group, and deliberatelyย ย 
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Take๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ตฌ๋ฌธ ๋™์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:51
you say to yourself, okay, I'm gonna try to useย  a couple of these phrasal verbs that I'm learningย ย 
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when I talk to people there today, yeah, whenย  I exchange messages with them today. So thisย ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ์˜ˆ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ตํ™˜ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
17:02
is a more deliberate way of using communityย  to activate your English, to study in a more,ย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ข€ ๋”,
17:07
um, intentional way. And about that we haveย  the second audio message from another student,ย ย 
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์Œ, ์˜๋„์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณด๋‹ค ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™์ƒ์ธ Elena์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์˜ค๋””์˜ค ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:14
Elena, and she also shares somethingย  really cool here. Let's listen to it.ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณด์ž.
17:18
Hello. To be honest, I've never thought thatย  community might be very helpful in that case,ย ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†์ง€๋งŒ,
17:25
but as turned out I was wrong, and it has beenย  proved in practice. I've tried to start learnย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ‹€๋ ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐํ˜€์กŒ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž…์ฆ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ 
17:35
English many times, and I wouldn't say that itย  wasn't successful, um, but I didn't notice aย ย 
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฒˆ ์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ,
17:48
huge achievement and huge difference. Butย  when I joined to RealLife Fluency Circle,ย ย 
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ํฐ ์„ฑ๊ณผ์™€ ํฐ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ RealLife Fluency Circle์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
17:57
um, I noticed that my English, uh, skillsย  improved by leaps and bounds. And it's true.ย ย 
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์Œ, ์ œ ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์ด ๋น„์•ฝ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ–ฅ์ƒ๋˜์—ˆ์Œ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:06
I think the main reason that, uh, we are asย  English learners, we always try to learn,ย ย 
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž๋กœ์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฃผ๋œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์Œ,
18:18
um, different grammar, we try to listen to, um,ย  for example, podcasts, we try to read something,ย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ , ์Œ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ , ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ฝ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ ,
18:26
we take classes with English teachers andย  everything it's like input. Everything weย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ต์‚ฌ์™€ ์ž…๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
18:35
try to put in our head is great, but also weย  had apply every knowledge which we learned,ย ย 
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๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์— ์ง‘์–ด๋„ฃ์œผ๋ ค๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ง€์‹์„ ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
18:46
and, uh, participation in any kind ofย  community, it's a wonderful chance to do it.ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:52
Okay. So one thing she says that I reallyย  liked was, input is important, right? Butย ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์ž…๋ ฅ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
18:58
community gives you the chance to apply what youย  learn. She said that, right, community gives youย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š” ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ 
19:03
the chance to apply what you learn. So yes, inputย  is important. Yeah, studying, consuming content,ย ย 
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์ด ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ์ž…๋ ฅ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ ,
19:10
consuming information, but you have to apply. Andย  a community offers you that safe space, right,ย ย 
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์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ ์ฒญํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋กœ,
19:15
where you can go in there and practice, applyย  everything you've been studying and learning. Um,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ์šด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ,
19:22
she also used a really cool expression, Casse, sheย  said, by leaps and bounds. What does that mean?ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํ‘œํ˜„์ธ Casse๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋น„์•ฝ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ด์•ผ?
19:30
So if we use this phrase leaps and bounds, weย  use it to emphasize that something or someoneย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋„์•ฝ๊ณผ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
19:37
is improving or increasing quickly. So inย  this case, with her English, she was ableย ย 
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๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์„ ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•œ
19:44
to improve her English quite quickly once sheย  joined the community. So that's what it means.ย 
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ํ›„ ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:50
Yeah, great expression. Great idiomย  there. Great job, Elena. Anythingย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ข‹์€ ํ‘œํ˜„. ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๊ด€์šฉ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜ํ–ˆ์–ด, ์—˜๋ ˆ๋‚˜.
19:53
else you would like to add here, Casse? Yeah. The part that I was really drawn toย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, Casse? ์‘. ์—˜๋ ˆ๋‚˜์˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์—์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋Œ๋ ธ๋˜ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€
19:57
in Elena's message was when she mentions thatย  community is not only beneficial when you'reย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€
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learning a language, but also in other areasย  of life. She mentions, you know, starting aย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์—ญ์—์„œ๋„ ์œ ์ตํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
20:08
family and raising children, and I can relate toย  that myself. So I know that when I was pregnant,ย ย 
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๊ฐ€์ •์„ ๊พธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์–‘์œกํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ ์ผ์— ๊ณต๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž„์‹ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ธธ์„ ์žƒ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ ,
20:14
I felt lost and, I felt like, oh, you know, noย  one around me is pregnant, no one's there to giveย ย 
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์ œ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์ž„์‹ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์—†๊ณ , ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•ด์ค„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:19
me advice. My mom had kids 30 years ago, so like,ย  she can't really help me. And, um, I think onlineย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” 30๋…„ ์ „์— ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๋‚ณ์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋„์™€์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์Œ,
20:28
communities really helped me during that time. Andย  I think for a lot of people, I mean, it could be aย ย 
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๊ทธ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
20:34
health issue, it could be, you know, like raisingย  kids. Some of us are living far away from ourย ย 
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๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ฌธ์ œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ž๋…€ ์–‘์œก๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๊ณผ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:39
parents. We don't know what to do. Um, it couldย  be other things in your life that you want to,ย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:45
um, you know, hear from other people, hearย  what other people have to say. So when we,ย ย 
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์Œ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
20:49
when we think about this and we think about like,ย  feedback, right, so you might be, you know, askingย ย 
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์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ํ”ผ๋“œ๋ฐฑ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ
20:56
a question in a group or, um, asking for advice,ย  and there are people there that will generallyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฃน์—์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์Œ, ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ๊ตฌํ•˜๋ฉด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:03
help you out. So when we think about languageย  learning and we think about being in a group of,ย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋‚˜๊ฐ€. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒŒ์ด๋จธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ
21:09
I don't know, gamers, um, you could ask yourย  question in, in English, and usually mostย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ 
21:15
likely people will help you out whether that isย  like, you know, giving you a little tip on, uh,ย ย 
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์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋„์›€์„ ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์–ด,
21:21
maybe your, your what you're asking your question,ย  or they'll give you some advice, um, if you'reย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํŒ์„ ์ฃผ๋ฉด, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์Œ, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
21:26
making mistakes. So you could ask them, becauseย  you're usually all in the same boat, right?ย ย 
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์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด. ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
21:30
You're usually all there for the same purpose. Alright. So now we have actually a really coolย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ณดํ†ต ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ชฉ์ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์ด์ œ
21:35
clip that I got from a TED talk from Sethย  Godin. And the talk is called The Tribesย ย 
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Seth Godin์˜ TED ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜จ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํด๋ฆฝ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ•์—ฐ ์ œ๋ชฉ์€ The Tribes
21:42
We Lead. And he's known for talking about theย  importance of creating your tribe or buildingย ย 
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We Lead์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ถ€์กฑ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์กฑ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:48
your tribe. And it's really cool. Uh, one ofย  the things he talks about in this talk is how,ย ย 
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. ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ์ด ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
21:54
um, one of the best ways for you to sell yourย  products nowadays, or services or your ideasย ย 
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์Œ, ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์ œํ’ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋˜๋Š” ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ํŒ๋งคํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
21:59
is by creating a community, by, you know, uh,ย  leading a tribe. Yeah. And he actually, um, givesย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€์กฑ. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ, ์Œ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
22:08
some nice examples of questions for us toย  reflect when doing that. So, Thiago, couldย ย 
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๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ,
22:14
you please play the clip for us and let's watchย  it now, this one minute clip from the TED Talk.ย 
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ํด๋ฆฝ์„ ํ‹€์–ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”? ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. TED ํ† ํฌ์˜ 1๋ถ„ ํด๋ฆฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:18
Michelle Kaufman has pioneered new ways ofย  thinking about environmental architecture. Sheย ย 
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Michelle Kaufman์€ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ ๊ฑด์ถ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฐœ์ฒ™ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
22:25
doesn't do it by quietly building one house at aย  time. She does it by telling a story to people whoย ย 
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— ํ•œ ์ฑ„์˜ ์ง‘์„ ์กฐ์šฉํžˆ ์ง“์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ ค์ฃผ๊ณ 
22:32
want to hear it, by connecting a tribe of peopleย  who are desperate to be connected to each otherย ย 
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, ์„œ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ„์ ˆํžˆ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ๋ถ€์กฑ์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ ,
22:38
by leading a movement and making change.ย  And around and around and around it goes.ย ย 
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์šด๋™์„ ์ด๋Œ๊ณ  ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋ƒ„์œผ๋กœ์จ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ๊ณ  ๋Œ๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€
22:44
So three questions I'd offer you. The firstย  one is, who exactly are you upsetting?ย ย 
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
22:51
Because if you're not upsetting anyone, you're notย  changing the status quo. The second question is,ย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ˜„์ƒ ์œ ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€
22:56
who are you connecting? Because for a lotย  of people, that's what they're in it for,ย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:01
the connections that are being made, one to theย  other. And the third one is, who are you leading?ย ย 
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์„œ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ด๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์—ญํ•™์ด
23:09
Because focusing on that part of it, notย  the mechanics of what you're building,ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
23:14
but the who and the leadingย  part is where change comes.ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฃผ๋„์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:18
Yeah, that was cool. Any thoughts, Casse? Yeah. I think that when we think about like,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋ฉ‹์กŒ์–ด. ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ƒ๊ฐ ์žˆ์–ด, ์นด์„ธ? ์‘. ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ํž˜๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ
23:25
the power of community, when we thinkย  about how much further ideas or, I mean,ย ย 
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, ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ฆ‰,
23:32
of course in business, that's an obvious thoughtย  that one would have. The more people you have,ย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์„์ˆ˜๋ก
23:38
um, talking about your brand or about what you'reย  doing, obviously the further and the bigger yourย ย 
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์Œ, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋” ํฌ๊ณ  ๋” ํฌ๊ฒŒ
23:44
business is going to expand. But I think aboutย  like concepts. I mean, we, we live in a worldย ย 
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ํ™•์žฅ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฐœ๋…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
23:50
where like everything moves fast. And I thinkย  it's, it's the same when we think about like,ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์›€์ง์ด๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ ์—๋Š”,
23:55
um, tribes and communities. If you're, if you'reย  together, you're so much stronger when you're,ย ย 
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์Œ, ๋ถ€์กฑ๊ณผ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•จ๊ป˜๋ผ๋ฉด, ํ•จ๊ป˜๋ผ๋ฉด,
24:01
when you're united, you know? And he used some nice vocab here,ย ย 
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๋ญ‰์น  ๋•Œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ
24:04
like pioneer for example, when someone is aย  pioneer or to pioneer something. What's that?ย 
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐœ์ฒ™์ž์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์ฒ™ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฐœ์ฒ™์ž์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๊ฒŒ ๋ญ์•ผ?
24:12
So if you're a pioneer, you are among the first toย  do something. So if you're a pioneer in the foodย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ ๊ตฌ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‹ํ’ˆ ์‚ฐ์—…์˜ ์„ ๊ตฌ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด ํ•ด๋‹น ์‚ฐ์—…์—์„œ ์•„์ง ๋ฐœ๋ช…๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ณ ์œ ํ•œ
24:21
industry, maybe you created or developed somethingย  unique that hasn't been invented yet, uh, in thatย ย 
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๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ–ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:27
particular industry. So yeah, a pioneer wouldย  be among the first to invent or do something.ย 
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. ์˜ˆ, ๊ฐœ์ฒ™์ž๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•œ ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:33
The first question he asks is reallyย  cool. Who are you upsetting? Yeah.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌป๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์‘.
24:37
You should ask yourself that. Who are youย  upsetting? Uh, what does that mean to upset?ย 
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์–ด, ์†์ƒํ•ดํ•˜๋‹ค์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
24:42
So if you upset someone, you're causing themย  to worry or be unhappy. Um, and if I connectย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•ด์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ๊ฐœ์ฒ™์—
24:49
that with your previous question aboutย  pioneering, I think when you're pioneeringย ย 
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๊ด€ํ•œ ์ด์ „ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฐœ์ฒ™์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ
24:54
you're breaking those boundaries, right?ย  Because you're, no one has done this before,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ํ—ˆ๋ฌผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด์ „์— ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ
24:58
so you are bound to upset someone, you're boundย  to disrupt the current way that things are doneย ย 
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋ฐ–์— ์—†๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ์˜ ์ผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ ๋ฐฉ์‹
25:05
or the way that people think about things. And we can connect that with something else heย ย 
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์ด๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜๋ฐ–์— ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ˜„ ์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:09
says, which is changing the status quo. Yeah.ย  So the status quo is, uh, the way things are,ย ย 
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. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ˜„ ์ƒํƒœ๋Š”, ์–ด, ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹, ์•„์‹œ
25:16
you know, the way people think that things workย  and you know, oh, it's always been like that,ย ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ด ์ž˜ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์˜ค, ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์™”์œผ๋‹ˆ
25:22
so let's keep doing it like that. Like youย  don't question the things that you do everyย ย 
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๊ณ„์† ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹  ์ด ๋งค์ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”
25:26
day. Yeah. So what he's proposing here is for youย  to change or to challenge the status quo. Like,ย ย 
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. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ œ์•ˆํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ˜„์ƒ ์œ ์ง€์— ๋„์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
25:33
okay, we do it like we do it this way, butย  why isn't there a better way to do it? Thisย ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์™œ ๋” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์—†์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ด๋Š”
25:39
is changing or challenging the status quo. Andย  when you do that, you upset people, some people,ย ย 
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ํ˜„์ƒ ์œ ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:44
it's inevitable, (True.) right? Some (Absolutely.)ย  people will not be open to this change, let's say.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€ํ”ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, (๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.) ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ์ผ๋ถ€(๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.) ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”์— ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์—ด๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:50
Speaking of challenging the status quo. Yeah. Youย  know, I think we could bust some myths here aboutย ย 
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ํ˜„์ƒ ์œ ์ง€์— ๋„์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ. ์‘. ์•„์‹œ ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‹ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊นจ๋œจ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:57
English learning also, because some beliefs thatย  people have or some, uh, things that people sayย ย 
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. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฏฟ์Œ์ด๋‚˜ ์–ด, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋” ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:04
sometimes, yeah. You gotta live abroad to learnย  English. Well, that's not true because, you know,ย ย 
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. ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ ค๋ฉด ํ•ด์™ธ์— ๊ฑฐ์ฃผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
26:10
I am living proof of that guys, you know, I'veย  never been abroad and I speak English, you know,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ด์•„์žˆ๋Š” ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ํ•ด์™ธ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๊ณ  ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ
26:14
so that's not true. Second point that I hearย  all the time: you gotta spend a lot of moneyย ย 
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์š”์  : ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ ค๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์จ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:20
to learn English. That's not true either. I mean,ย  there's so many cool resources nowadays for free,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ง์€ ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š”
26:25
like you can actually use to learn the language. Iย  mean, you don't have to. And you gotta know peopleย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
26:32
who speak English in order for you to, you know,ย  become a, an English speaker. Not necessarily.ย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:38
Yeah, because you know, again, going back toย  the resources that we are talking about becauseย ย 
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๋„ค, ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ
26:42
of technology, let's take the app for example,ย  the RealLife English app, which is really coolย ย 
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์•ฑ์„ ์˜ˆ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. RealLife English ์•ฑ์€ ์ •๋ง
26:47
because first of all, the app is free. It's freeย  to download, you can download, you can try it outย ย 
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๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๋กœ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ 
26:52
already. Try some of the features there. Andย  with our app, you can also speak English withย ย 
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์ด๋ฏธ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ ์•ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:58
people from all over the world. At the touchย  of a button you can connect with someone thereย ย 
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. ๋ฒ„ํŠผ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋งŒ ๋ˆ„๋ฅด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด
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and have a 4 to 8-minute conversation with thatย  person. So, you know, these beliefs they don'tย ย 
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ 4~8๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฏฟ์Œ์€
27:09
really apply anymore nowadays, because weย  have so many cool resources like the app.
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์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ ์šฉ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Alright, Casse, so now onto the lastย  segment, talking about connectingย ย 
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์ž, Casse, ์ด์ œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:21
your English. Now what comes to your mindย  when you think of connecting your English?ย 
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. ์ด์ œ ์˜์–ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด โ€‹โ€‹๋– ์˜ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
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So when I think about connecting my English,ย  I think about my why. You know, the principleย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ด์œ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
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reason that I started studying or that, you know,ย  sort of drives me to perform all the differentย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ์ฃผ๋œ ์ด์œ , ๋˜๋Š” ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์›๋™๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:40
actions. Why, you know, it's the thing that makesย  me want to join that group on, on Telegram or on,ย ย 
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. ํ…”๋ ˆ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด๋‚˜ ์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜ ์•ฑ์—์„œ ๊ทธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:48
you know, a language exchange app. I, I wantย  to be part of something, but there's a why,ย ย 
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. ๋‚˜, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:52
there's a reason. And I think that's what I, Iย  think is, is quite essential, right? You know,ย ย 
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์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ๋งค์šฐ ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
29:58
understanding that motivation, understanding whatย  it is that fuels you to keep learning and to keepย ย 
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๊ทธ ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ , ๊ณ„์†
30:04
pushing and to keep going. If you think aboutย  it, and if you keep, you know that in mind. Ifย ย 
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๋ฐ€๊ณ , ๊ณ„์† ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ์›๋™๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์œ ์ง€ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:11
you keep that at sort of the core of like your,ย  your day and your actions and your plans, then Iย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ–‰๋™, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ณ„ํš๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
30:17
think it makes it easier. It makes it easier toย  feel courageous in those moments, you know, whenย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ์šฉ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋” ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ 
30:24
you are, you're wondering, should I, you know,ย  speak to the stranger? Should I join that group?ย 
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์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
30:29
And something else that comes to mind when we talkย  about connecting your English is connecting it toย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„
30:34
your identity to who you are today and also toย  who you envision yourself in the future. Uh,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ๊ณผ ํ˜„์žฌ์˜ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด,
30:40
part of that is connecting your English toย  your interests. So whatever your interests are,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ ,
30:46
the topics, the media that you like to consume,ย  you do those things in English. And uh,ย ย 
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์ฃผ์ œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด,
30:52
when I think about that, that actuallyย  reminded me of Ksenia because, you know,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ Ksenia๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
30:57
Ksenia is another team member here at RealLifeย  English. And um, we have the Fluency Circle Group,ย ย 
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Ksenia๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ RealLife English์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŒ€์›์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Œ, Fluency Circle Group์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:04
which is our group of students where, you know,ย  they have a lot of cool activities there, youย ย 
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์ด ๊ทธ๋ฃน์€ ํ•™์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์œผ๋กœ, ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํ™œ๋™์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ ,
31:09
know, and quizzes and they share stuff together.ย  And now Ksenia actually has sent us a short videoย ย 
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ํ€ด์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ํ’€๊ณ , ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ Ksenia๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
31:17
message talking a little bit about how the Fluencyย  Circle community helps people, the members thereย ย 
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Fluency Circle ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋•๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ์งง์€ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํšŒ์›๋“ค์€
31:23
connect their English to something bigger thanย  themselves. I think, Casse, you touched on thatย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ž์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฐ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— Casse, ๋‹น์‹ ์€
31:28
earlier in the episode, yeah, about connectingย  your English to something bigger. Uh, it's notย ย 
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์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์— ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋” ํฐ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
31:33
just about the English language itself. Soย  let's see what Ksenia has to say about that.ย 
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๋‹จ์ง€ ์˜์–ด ์ž์ฒด์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ Ksenia๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ์ƒ์ƒ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ
31:38
Are you familiar with the idea of anย  imaginary friend? The one who's alwaysย ย 
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๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š” ?
31:46
there for you when you need them, or theย  idle one to hang out with all the time?ย ย 
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ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๋•Œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์˜†์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์œผ๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
31:50
Now imagine that this friend is not an imaginary,ย  but a real one. And it's not only one friend, butย ย 
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์ด์ œ ์ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์ƒ ์†์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹ค์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
31:59
hundreds of English-speaking friends from aroundย  the world in one place. This is our RealLifeย ย 
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์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์˜จ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ ๋ช…์˜ ์˜์–ด๊ถŒ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ RealLife
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English Fluency Circle group, where peopleย  gather together not only for learning English,ย ย 
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English Fluency Circle ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์ผ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
32:16
they're there for something bigger,ย  but English becomes the integral partย ย 
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๋” ํฐ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ชจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜์–ด๋Š” ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์˜ ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋˜์–ด
32:21
of their daily lives that connects themย  all together in one global community.ย ย 
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ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์—์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:30
People there learn and have funย  together, encourage and supportย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋ฉฐ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง€์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
32:34
each other. They grow together and theyย  also build the world beyond borders.ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ตญ๊ฒฝ์„ ๋„˜์–ด ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๊ฑด์„คํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:40
Nice. You've had some nice experiencesย  with the Fluency Circle, right, Casse?ย 
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๋ฉ‹์ง„. Fluency Circle์—์„œ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•˜์…จ์ฃ ? Casse?
32:45
Yeah. But before I talk about that, I wanna sayย  that Ksenia did such a beautiful job. Like withย ย 
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์‘. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— Ksenia๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:51
the storytelling there, you know, she paintedย  a beautiful picture where we were like, oh,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์˜ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌํ…”๋ง๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค,
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(Imagine,) intriguing, (right?) where'sย  this going? This imaginary friend.ย ย 
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์ด ์ƒ์ƒ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ.
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Um. " It's a good copywriting.ย 
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์Œ. " ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์นดํ”ผ๋ผ์ดํŒ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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It is excellent. Um, yeah, I, I, I have had theย  privilege of, um, having live lessons with theย ย 
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ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” Fluency Circle๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํŠน๊ถŒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Fluency Circle, and I think it's, there'sย  something really magical and special aboutย ย 
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ์— ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ๋ฒ•์ ์ด๊ณ  ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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this diverse group of people from around theย  world: Japan, Korea, Germany, like India, likeย ย 
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์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค : ์ผ๋ณธ, ํ•œ๊ตญ, ๋…์ผ, ์ธ๋„,
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it's, Brazil. It's, it's amazing, Peru. I was,ย  I'm always amazed and even like, uh, you know,ย ย 
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ, ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ด์š”, ํŽ˜๋ฃจ. ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋†€๋ž๊ณ , ์Œ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
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some African countries as well. Like, it's alwaysย  literally, as she said, building their, buildingย ย 
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์ผ๋ถ€ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค๋„์š”. . ๋งˆ์น˜, ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ
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this world beyond borders. But what I would sayย  is that what makes it special is that, you know,ย ย 
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๊ตญ๊ฒฝ ๋„ˆ๋จธ์˜ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๊ฑด์„คํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
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we're not having a, a regular class where there'sย  a teacher and I'm, I'm there to, uh, tell, teachย ย 
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์ •๊ทœ ์ˆ˜์—…์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋Š”, ์–ด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ด์ „์— ๋ชฐ๋ž๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:52
them something that they didn't know before. It'sย  more like this group of people literally comingย ย 
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์ด ๊ทธ๋ฃน์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌธ์ž ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:58
together to, I feel like they're building eachย  other up. They're saying like, there's not only,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€, Ksenia๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด,
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it's not only about English, as Ksenia said,ย  it's like a support group. Like saying, I,ย ย 
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์˜์–ด์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์ง€์› ๊ทธ๋ฃน๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š”,
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I, I'm, I get you, I'm with you. Um, I've beenย  through what you've, what you are going through,ย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š”, ๋‚˜๋Š”, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฒช์€ ์ผ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ๊ณ ,
34:15
and I'm gonna help you. I'm going to motivate you.ย  So you have students motivating students, learnersย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋„์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•™์ƒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ, ํ•™์Šต์ž์—๊ฒŒ ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
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motivating learners, and some of them, a lot ofย  them are teachers in this group, which is amazingย ย 
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๋ถ€์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ํ•™์Šต์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฃน์˜ ๊ต์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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actually. So they're, they're literally inspiringย  each other and motivating each other. And throughย ย 
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. ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
34:31
this sort of storytelling and, and sharing ofย  experiences, I think there's this, um, unity,ย ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌํ…”๋ง๊ณผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์˜ ๊ณต์œ ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด, ์Œ, ๋‹จ๊ฒฐ,
34:39
like solidarity. Like, uh, I, I understand you andย  I've been there and this is what I did. And, andย ย 
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์—ฐ๋Œ€์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์–ด, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
34:45
this might help you as well, so you don't feelย  alone. Because I think that's the one thing that,ย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์™ธ๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
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uh, can feel quite scary, you know, when you'reย  learning a language and you give up so easilyย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์–ด, ๊ฝค ๋ฌด์„ญ๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์™€
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because, uh, I, I don't know, you know, I don'tย  have anyone who, who's going through this withย ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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me. So there's that, and I think it's, it's, it'sย  just wonderful. It's really, really inspiring.ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ๋™์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Yeah. Well said. I can't top that now. Now I haveย  to wrap up the episode. Yeah. That was reallyย ย 
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์‘. ์ž˜ํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ์ •๋ง
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cool. Uh, but dear listeners, today, we gave youย  some examples about different kinds of community,ย ย 
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๋ฉ‹์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์นœ์• ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:17
you know, uh, and how community can helpย  you, again, be a better English learner,ย ย 
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์–ด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€,
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but not just that, but also better person. Butย  now we wanna ask you, what is your experienceย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ œ
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about being part of a community? I mean, uh, areย  you part of a community? And how does it help youย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ์ผ์›์ด ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌป๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ์ผ์›์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
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be a better learner or a better person? We areย  curious to hear your story and your experience.ย ย 
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๋” ๋‚˜์€ ํ•™์Šต์ž ๋˜๋Š” ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:40
So write to us sharing your experience aboutย  being part of a community. You can send usย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์˜ ์ผ์›์ด ๋œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
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an email at [email protected]. Orย  if you're watching us here on YouTube,ย ย 
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[email protected]์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š” YouTube์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
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you can just simply live us a comment down below.ย  Alright? So that's it for today, guys. Stay tunedย ย 
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์•„๋ž˜์— ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€? ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
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for next week's episode and thank you so much forย  listening, for watching, and I'll see you soon.ย ย 
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณง ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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All right. So 1, 2, 3. Aww (Aww) yeah. (yeah.)
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 1, 2, 3. ์•„(์•„) ๋„ค. (์‘.)
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