BOX SET: 6 Minute English - 'Human behaviour 2' English mega-class! 30 minutes of new vocabulary!

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Hello. This is 6 Minute English from BBC Learningย  English. Iโ€™m Georgina. And Iโ€™m Neil. Neil,
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. BBC Learning English์˜ 6๋ถ„ ์˜์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €๋Š” ์กฐ์ง€๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹
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this may sound a bit personal, but have you ever taken your clothes off? Err, well, yes. Every
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, ์ข€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์–˜๊ธฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆด์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ท์„ ๋ฒ—์€ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์Œ, ๋„ค.
00:17
day when I have a shower. Of course. I mean inย  public โ€“ have you ever been naked in public?
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๋งค์ผ ์ƒค์›Œํ•  ๋•Œ. ๋ฌผ๋ก . ๋‚ด ๋ง์€ ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ โ€“ ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ชธ์ด ๋œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
00:23
No! Stripping off โ€“ or getting naked - publicly,ย  is not my idea of fun. Who would enjoy doing
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”! ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ท์„ ๋ฒ—๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์•Œ๋ชธ ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€
00:30
that? Well, naturists would. Thatโ€™s what weย  call people who think not wearing clothes
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์Œ, ์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•ผ์™ธ์—์„œ ์˜ท์„ ์ž…์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
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outdoors is a healthy way to live, and it makesย  them feel good. We might also call them nudists,
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๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„์ง€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์ฒด์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜์ฒด์ฃผ์˜์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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because they are nude. Right, so naturists feelย  being naked is natural โ€“ itโ€™s not about them being
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. ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜์ž ๋“ค์€ ์•Œ๋ชธ์ด ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
00:49
interested in nature?! Not necessarily, but we areย  going to discuss why being naked in nature might
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. ์ž์—ฐ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ ์š”?! ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ž์—ฐ์—์„œ ๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™œ
00:55
be good for us. But how about a question first,ย  Neil? The act of swimming naked is informally
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€์ง€ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋จผ์ € ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”, Neil? ์•Œ๋ชธ์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰์œ„๋ฅผ ๋น„๊ณต์‹์ 
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called skinny dipping. The worldโ€™s largest skinnyย  dip took place in Ireland in 2018 - but do you
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์œผ๋กœ ์Šคํ‚ค๋‹ˆ ๋”ฅํ•‘์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2018๋…„ ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ์Šคํ‚ค๋‹ˆ ๋”ฅ์ด ์—ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ
01:08
know how many naked swimmers went into theย  sea? Was it approximatelyโ€ฆ a) 250 people,
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์•Œ๋ชธ ์ˆ˜์˜์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”๋Š”์ง€ ์•„์„ธ์š”? ๋Œ€๋žต... a) 250๋ช…,
01:17
b) 2,500 people, or c) 25,000 people? Iโ€™d haveย  to guess and say that only 250 people would be
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b) 2,500๋ช…, ๋˜๋Š” c) 25,000๋ช… ์ •๋„์˜€๋‚˜์š”? ๋‹จ 250๋ช…๋งŒ์ด
01:27
brave enough to run into the cold sea, naked! Well, as always, Iโ€™ll reveal the answer later.
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์•Œ๋ชธ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐจ๊ฐ€์šด ๋ฐ”๋‹ค์— ๋›ฐ์–ด๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋งŒํผ ์šฉ๊ฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ถ”์ธกํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ๋ญ, ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ ์ •๋‹ต์€ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:34
So, the idea of getting naked might fill you withย  dread - it might seem embarrassing - but some
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์•Œ๋ชธ์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฑ„์šธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ด๋–ค
01:39
people do sunbathe naked on the beach or in theirย  garden or they go to naturist holiday parks. But
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•ด๋ณ€์ด๋‚˜ ์ •์›์—์„œ ์•Œ๋ชธ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ๊ด‘์š•์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜ ํœด๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์›์— ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
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naked rambling โ€“ walking naked in the countrysideย  โ€“ might be taking it one step further. However,ย ย 
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๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—์€ ์‚ฐ์ฑ… โ€“ ์‹œ๊ณจ์—์„œ ๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—์€ ์ฑ„ ๊ฑท๊ธฐ โ€“ ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
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itโ€™s something Donna Price, a volunteer at Britishย  Naturism, is keen to advocate โ€“ or publicly
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British Naturism์˜ ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž์ธ Donna Price ๊ฐ€ ์˜นํ˜ธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ
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support. Here she is, speaking on BBC Radio 4โ€™sย  Womanโ€™s Hour programme, explaining whyโ€ฆ We enjoy
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์ง€์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” BBC ๋ผ๋””์˜ค 4์˜ ์šฐ๋จผ์Šค ์•„์›Œ(Woman's Hour) ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์—์„œ ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:04
the feeling of being at one with nature. If youย  haven't actually tried being naked in nature, and
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. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž์—ฐ์—์„œ ๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—๊ณ  ์•ผ์™ธ์—์„œ ๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
02:11
naked outdoors, when you can feel the skin, theย  warmth air all over your skin, it's such a lovely
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ํ”ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋Š๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ”ผ๋ถ€ ์ „์ฒด์— ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•œ ๊ณต๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋Š๊ปด์งˆ ๋•Œ ์ •๋ง ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด
02:17
feeling. There is a great feeling of liberationย  and freedom once you actually try naturism - and
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๋Š๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋ฉด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์ž์œ ๋กœ์›€์„ ๋Š๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
02:24
I would never advocate for someone to actually goย  out for a naked walk as the first thing they ever
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—์€ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜นํ˜ธ
02:28
did - I just would not do that! You've got to beย  comfortable in your own skin, so you do it at home, at ...
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ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ”ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง‘์—์„œ, ...
02:34
you know, in your own garden maybe if you can - getย  comfortable with yourself, actually start to
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ •์›์—์„œ - ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ , ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
02:39
feel that being naked feels normal, which, I mean, to me,ย  it does. So, for Donna, naked rambling means she
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๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •์ƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ์ œ ๋ง์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ Donna์—๊ฒŒ ์•Œ๋ชธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑท๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋…€
02:47
has a connection with nature, she feels part of itย  and it makes her feel good โ€“ thatโ€™s the feeling of
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๊ฐ€ ์ž์—ฐ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž์—ฐ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๋ฉฐ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ
02:53
being at one with nature. Hmm, but couldnโ€™t you doย  that with your clothes on? Well, she also mentions
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์ž์—ฐ๊ณผ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์˜ท์„ ์ž…๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๋‚˜์š”? ๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ
02:59
thereโ€™s a feeling of freedom and liberationย โ€“ thatโ€™s being freed from something โ€“ here,
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์ž์œ ์™€ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ์˜ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ
03:04
itโ€™s freed from your clothes. Donna also told theย  Womanโ€™s Hour programme that going for a naked walk
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜ท์—์„œ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Donna๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ Woman's Hour ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์— ์•Œ๋ชธ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…
03:09
shouldnโ€™t be the first thing you attempt to do. You need to feel relaxed and confident with your
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์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‹œ๋„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ–‰๋™์— ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ๊ณผ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๋‚„ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:14
actions first โ€“ or what we sometimesย  say is โ€˜comfortable in your own skinโ€™.
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๋˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ”ํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” '์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ”ผ๋ถ€์— ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ'์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
Yes, she says we need to get to feel thatย  nakedness is normal. I suppose we were allย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒŒ๊ฑฐ๋ฒ—์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •์ƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Š๋‚„ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€
03:25
born naked and itโ€™s not something to be ashamedย  of. And, in the UK at least, itโ€™s generally notย ย 
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์•Œ๋ชธ์œผ๋กœ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ ์–ด๋„ ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
03:31
against the law to be naked in public. Hmm, Iโ€™mย  still not convinced, but according to Donna Price,ย ย 
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๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์ฒด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฒ•์— ์ €์ด‰๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์•„์ง ํ™•์‹ ์ด ์„œ์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ Donna Price์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด
03:37
this freedom of expression is quite well receivedย  when sheโ€™s out walking. Here she is speaking onย ย 
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์ด ํ‘œํ˜„์˜ ์ž์œ ๋Š” ์™ธ์ถœํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฝค ์ž˜ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
03:43
the BBCโ€™s Womanโ€™s Hour programme againโ€ฆ A majorityย  of the responses that you actually encounter, ifย ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œ BBC์˜ ์šฐ๋จผ์Šค ์•„์›Œ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
03:49
you do encounter the public, the general public,ย  are actually very encouraging. They're not shock,ย ย 
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๋Œ€์ค‘, ์ผ๋ฐ˜ ๋Œ€์ค‘์„ ๋งŒ๋‚œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ ‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‘๋‹ต์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ณตํฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
horror majority of the time, I can guaranteeย  that. A lot of people say just 'good morning'ย ย 
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๋ณด์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด '์ข‹์€ ์•„์นจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ 
04:02
and carry on, some of them actually say 'gosh,ย  you're braver than I amโ€™ if itโ€™s a bit chilly.ย ย 
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๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์† ์ด์–ด๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์Œ€์Œ€ํ•˜๋ฉด '์–ด์ด์ฟ , ๋‚˜๋ณด๋‹ค ์šฉ๊ฐํ•˜๊ตฐ'์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
A lot of them just say, ' I really wish I couldย  do that' and usually we just say 'you can!'. So,ย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด '๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹๊ฒ ์–ด '๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณดํ†ต ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 'ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”!'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
04:15
the people Donna encounters โ€“ or meets โ€“ seemย  to support what sheโ€™s doing. She says it's notย ย 
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Donna๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ฃผ์น˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ์ง€์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ, ๊ณตํฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:20
shock, horror โ€“ this is usually said as anย  informal way of actually saying somethingย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:25
is not surprising, not shocking! Well, shock,ย horror, Neil, I wonโ€™t be taking my clothes offย ย 
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๋†€๋ž์ง€๋„ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์ง€๋„ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ์Œ, ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ, ๊ณตํฌ, Neil, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณง ๋‚ด ์˜ท์„ ๋ฒ—์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ
04:31
anytime soon โ€“ itโ€™s too cold anyway and I donโ€™tย  want to be bitten by all those bugs you get in theย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ถ”์›Œ์„œ ์‹œ๊ณจ ์—์„œ ์–ป๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ์— ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:36
countryside. But itโ€™s good to hear that people areย  open-minded to the idea. Yes, good luck to anyoneย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—ด๋ฆฐ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ,
04:42
who wants to give it a try and well done to thoseย  brave people who took part in the worldโ€™s biggestย ย 
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์‹œ๋„ํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ํ–‰์šด์„ ๋น•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜
04:47
skinny dip โ€“ a mass naked swim. Earlier, Georgina,ย  you asked me how many people took part in theย ย 
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์Šคํ‚ค๋‹ˆ ๋”ฅ์ธ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ๋‚˜์ฒด ์ˆ˜์˜์— ์ฐธ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ์šฉ๊ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ–‰์šด์„ ๋น•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ Georgina
04:54
event in Ireland in 2018. I did, and you said? Iย said about 250 people went for a dip. Was I right?ย ย 
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, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ 2018๋…„ ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ์—ด๋ฆฐ ํ–‰์‚ฌ์— ๋ช‡ ๋ช…์ด ์ฐธ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 250๋ช… ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์˜์„ ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ”๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งž์•˜์–ด?
05:01
No, Neil. According to Guinness World Records,ย  2,505 women took part in the largest charityย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‹. ๊ธฐ๋„ค์Šค ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ธฐ๋ก์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด 2,505๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ ์œ„ํด๋กœ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ž์„  ๋‹จ์ฒด
05:09
skinny dip in Wicklow in Ireland. Well, wellย  done to them, and skinny dipping was one of the
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์Šคํ‚ค๋‹ˆ ๋”ฅ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ˆ˜๊ณ ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํ‚ค๋‹ˆ ๋”ฅํ•‘์€
05:15
items of vocabulary we discussed today. This isย  an informal way of describing the act of swimming
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•œ ์–ดํœ˜ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ๋ชธ ์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰์œ„๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:20
naked. Weโ€™ve also been discussing naturists -ย  people who think not wearing clothes outdoors
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. ์•ผ์™ธ์—์„œ ์˜ท์„ ์ž…์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
05:25
is a healthy way to live, and it makes themย  feel good. The act of doing this is called
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๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ์ข‹๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋…ผ์˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰์œ„๋ฅผ
05:31
'naturism'. And when you advocate something, likeย  naturism for example, you publicly support it.ย ย 
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'์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜นํ˜ธ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ง€์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:37
'Being at one with nature' means having a connectionย  with the natural world that makes you feel good.
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'Being at one with nature' ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„์ง€๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ ์„ธ๊ณ„์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:42
And 'liberation' means being freed from something.ย  And when we say โ€˜shock, horror!โ€™, we actually meanย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  'ํ•ด๋ฐฉ'์€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ '์ถฉ๊ฒฉ, ๊ณตํฌ!'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š”
05:48
the opposite and mean something in not shockingย  or surprising โ€“ weโ€™re being sarcastic, I guess.ย ย 
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๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋†€๋ž์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋น„๊ผฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:53
Itโ€™s not like you to be sarcastic, Neil!ย  But shock, horror โ€“ weโ€™re out of time now.ย ย 
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๋น„๊ผฌ๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋„ˆ๋‹ต์ง€ ์•Š์•„, ๋‹! ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ, ๊ณตํฌ โ€“ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
We only get 6 minutes and thatโ€™s the nakedย  truth! Thanks for listening and goodbye. Goodbye.
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์ฃผ์–ด์ง„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ 6๋ถ„๋ฟ์ด๋ฉฐ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ๊ฒฝ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
06:09
Hello. This is 6 Minute English from BBCย  Learning English. I'm Neil. And I'm Sam.ย ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ BBC Learning English์—์„œ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” 6๋ถ„ ์˜์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €๋Š” ๋‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
When Neil and I record 6 Minute Englishย  face-to-face in the BBC Learning Englishย ย 
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Neil๊ณผ ์ €๋Š” BBC Learning English ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ 6๋ถ„ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋Œ€๋ฉด์œผ๋กœ ๋…น์Œ
06:21
studio, which, I am happy to say, we are doingย  right now, we look at each other as we speak.ย ย 
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ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:27
We smile and use hand gestures and facialย  expressions in a type of communication calledย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” '๋ณด๋”” ๋žญ๊ท€์ง€'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์—์„œ ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ง“๊ณ  ์†์ง“๊ณผ ํ‘œ์ •์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉ
06:33
'body language'. But during the Covid pandemic,ย  everyday meetings with work colleagues, teachersย ย 
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ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน ๋™์•ˆ ์ง์žฅ ๋™๋ฃŒ, ๊ต์‚ฌ, ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ํšŒ์˜
06:39
and friends, and 6 Minute English recordings -ย  all moved online. Video meetings using softwareย ย 
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, 6๋ถ„ ์˜์–ด ๋…น์Œ ๋“ฑ์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Zoom ๋ฐ Skype์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ํ™”์ƒ ํšŒ์˜
06:45
like Zoom and Skype became the normal wayย  to communicate with family and friends.ย ย 
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๋Š” ๊ฐ€์กฑ ๋ฐ ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:50
And whatever happens with Covid in the future,ย  it seems they're here to stay. In this programme,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜19์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋“  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ
06:56
we'll be asking: how has body language changedย  in the world of online video meetings? We'llย ย 
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์—์„œ๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ํ™”์ƒ ํšŒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‹ ์ฒด ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
07:02
meet the person who wrote the rulebook for clearย  communication in the digital age - Erica Dhawan,ย ย 
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๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์‹œ๋Œ€์˜ ๋ช…์พŒํ•œ ์†Œํ†ต์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฃฐ๋ถ์„
07:08
author of a new book, 'Digital Body Language'.ย  But before that, I have a question for you, Sam,ย ย 
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์ง‘ํ•„ํ•œ ์—๋ฆฌ์นด ๋‹ค์™„ ์‹ ๊ฐ„ '๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ๋ฐ”๋”” ๋žญ๊ท€์ง€'์˜ ์ €์ž๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ „์— Sam, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:14
and it's about Erica Dhawan. She may be aย  communications expert now, but growing up inย ย 
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. Erica Dhawan์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆ์ผ€์ด์…˜ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€์ผ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ํŽœ์‹ค๋ฒ ๋‹ˆ์•„์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ
07:20
Pennsylvania she was a shy and quiet schoolgirl.ย  So how did Erica beat her shyness and become theย ย 
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๋ฉด์„œ ์ˆ˜์ค๊ณ  ์กฐ์šฉํ•œ ์—ฌํ•™์ƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์—๋ฆฌ์นด๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜์ค์Œ์„ ๊ทน๋ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์˜
07:26
confident communicator she is today? Didย  she: a) attend public speaking classes?,ย ย 
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์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ๋„˜์น˜๋Š” ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆ์ผ€์ดํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” a) ๋Œ€์ค‘ ์—ฐ์„ค ์ˆ˜์—…์— ์ฐธ์„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:32
b) copy the body language of the cool kids atย  school? or, c) raised her hand to answer theย ย 
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b) ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ๋ฐ”๋””๋žญ๊ท€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋˜๋Š” c) ๋‹ต์„
07:38
teacher's questions, even if she didn't know theย  answer? I'll guess 'c' - she raised her handย ย 
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๋”๋ผ๋„ ๊ต์‚ฌ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์†์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‚˜๋Š” 'c'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ถ”์ธกํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค โ€“ ๊ทธ๋…€
07:45
to answer the teacher's questions. OK, Sam. We'llย  reveal the correct answer later in the programme.ย ย 
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๋Š” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์†์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„, ์ƒ˜. ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ํ›„๋ฐ˜๋ถ€์— ์ •๋‹ต์„ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:51
In face-to-face meetings, we immediately seeย  someone's reaction to what we've said through eyeย ย 
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๋Œ€๋ฉด ํšŒ์˜์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋Š” ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์„œ๋กœ์˜ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ˆˆ๋งž์ถค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ ์ฆ‰์‹œ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:57
contact, where two people look into each other'sย  eyes as they talk. Unfortunately, using a webย ย 
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. ๋ถˆํ–‰ํžˆ๋„ ์›น
08:03
camera to make eye contact is almost impossible inย  online meetings and this often creates a kind ofย ย 
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์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋งž์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ํšŒ์˜์—์„œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข…์ข… ์ผ์ข…์˜
08:10
'distancing' effect. Erica Dhawan makes severalย  suggestions to help with this. See if you canย ย 
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'๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋‘๊ธฐ' ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Erica Dhawan์€ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:16
hear the final suggestion she makes to Michaelย  Rosen as part of BBC Radio 4's Word of Mouth.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ BBC ๋ผ๋””์˜ค 4์˜ ์ž…์†Œ๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋งˆ์ดํด ๋กœ์  ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š” .
08:23
And last but not least, slow down. Remember whenย  it was completely normal to have a one-minuteย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋Šฆ์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:29
pause in a room with one another because weย  knew when we're thinking and brainstorming.ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ธŒ๋ ˆ์ธ์Šคํ† ๋ฐํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์„œ๋กœ ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ 1๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ผ์‹œ ์ค‘์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ •์ƒ์ ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
08:33
If we don't hear someone speak on video, weย  ask them if they're on mute. Practise what Iย ย 
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๋™์˜์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์Œ์†Œ๊ฑฐ ์ƒํƒœ์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€
08:38
call the five-second rule - wait five secondsย  before speaking to make sure that individualsย ย 
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5์ดˆ ๊ทœ์น™์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฐ์Šต ํ•˜์„ธ์š”
08:43
have time to process the ideas, especially ifย  there may be technology or accessibility issues.ย ย 
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. ํŠนํžˆ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด๋‚˜ ์ ‘๊ทผ์„ฑ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— 5์ดˆ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ์„ธ์š” .
08:50
Did you hear Erica's last piece of advice, Neil?ย  Yes, she recommends slowing down, something we doย ย 
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์—๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์กฐ์–ธ ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด, ๋‹? ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋Šฆ์ถœ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ถŒ์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:56
naturally face-to-face when we're thinking orย  brainstorming - that's discussing suggestionsย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ธŒ๋ ˆ์ธ์Šคํ† ๋ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋งž๋Œ€๊ณ 
09:02
with a group of people to come up with new ideasย  or to solve problems. Slowing down gives us timeย ย 
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ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋Šฆ์ถ”๋ฉด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„, ์ฆ‰
09:08
to process new information - to understand itย  by thinking carefully and reflecting on it.ย ย 
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์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ƒ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:14
Erica compares online body language to learningย  a new language - it takes practice, especiallyย ย 
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Erica๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ๋ฐ”๋”” ๋žญ๊ท€์ง€๋ฅผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ์Šต์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ
09:21
when it comes to smiling and laughing, somethingย  Michael Rosen finds hard to do in video meetings.ย ย 
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Michael Rosen์ด ํ™”์ƒ ํšŒ์˜์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ๋ฏธ์†Œ์™€ ์›ƒ์Œ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. BBC ๋ผ๋””์˜ค 4์˜ Word of Mouth์—์„œ Erica Dhawan๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
09:27
Listen to him discussing this problemย  with Erica Dhawan for BBC Radio 4's,ย ย 
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์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”
09:31
Word of Mouth. Do you think it's killing offย  people laughing and smiling in the way we do whenย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฃฝ์ด๊ณ  ์›ƒ๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
09:37
we're altogether in the live situation? I wouldย  say that it is much less likely that we laugh andย ย 
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? ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ ์•ž์—์„œ ์›ƒ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ง“๋Š” ์ผ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:43
smile on camera for a few reasons. Number one,ย  laughing is often done in unison where we canย ย 
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. ์ฒซ์งธ, ์›ƒ์Œ์€ ์ข…์ข…
09:50
quickly pick up the energy of someone smiling orย  laughing and feed off of that and laugh ourselves.ย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋‚˜ ์›ƒ์Œ์˜ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํฌ์ฐฉํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณ  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์›ƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ œํžˆ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
When it comes to screen delays, the fact thatย  it's not natural to see our own camera - beingย ย 
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ํ™”๋ฉด ์ง€์—ฐ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค๋กœ
10:00
distracted by that - we are much less likely toย  laugh and smile. One of the ways we can overcomeย ย 
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์ธํ•ด ์ฃผ์˜๊ฐ€ ์‚ฐ๋งŒํ•ด์ ธ์„œ ์›ƒ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ทน๋ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
10:06
this is by creating intentional moments inย  our meetings for the water cooler effect.ย ย 
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ํšŒ์˜์—์„œ ๋ƒ‰์ˆ˜ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜๋„์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:13
Erica points out that laughing often happensย  in unison - together and at the same time.ย ย 
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์—๋ฆฌ์นด๋Š” ์›ƒ์Œ์ด ์ข…์ข… ํ•จ๊ป˜, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋™์‹œ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ง€์ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:20
Yes, if someone starts laughing it makes meย  laugh too. She also thinks it's importantย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์›ƒ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋„ ์›ƒ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ
10:25
to make time for employees to chat informallyย  about things unrelated to work - their weekendย ย 
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์ง์› ๋“ค์ด ์ฃผ๋ง ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋‚˜ ์–ด์ ฏ๋ฐค TV ์‡ผ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์—…๋ฌด์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ ์—†๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋น„๊ณต์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:31
plans or last night's TV show. And she uses theย  expression, 'the water cooler effect' which comesย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
10:38
from the United States where office workersย  sometimes meet at the water fountain to chat.ย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ง์žฅ์ธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋” ์‹์ˆ˜๋Œ€์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜ ๋‹ด์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” '์›Œํ„ฐ ์ฟจ๋Ÿฌ ํšจ๊ณผ'๋ผ๋Š” ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:44
So, the water cooler effect refers to informalย  conversations that people have in their office orย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ƒ‰์ˆ˜๊ธฐ ํšจ๊ณผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์ด๋‚˜
10:49
workplace, maybe in the lift, the office kitchenย  or, if there is one, by an actual water cooler.ย ย 
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์ž‘์—…์žฅ, ์Šน๊ฐ•๊ธฐ, ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค ์ฃผ๋ฐฉ ๋˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ ๋ƒ‰์ˆ˜๊ธฐ ์˜†์—์„œ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ๋น„๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:56
Erica Dhawan seems very comfortable communicatingย  online, but she's had lots of time to practiceย ย 
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Erica Dhawan์€ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆ์ผ€์ด์…˜์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ด ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ํ•™์ฐฝ ์‹œ์ ˆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋งŽ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:01
since her schooldays. Ah yes, Neil, in yourย  quiz question you asked how Erica conquered herย ย 
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. ๋„ค, Neil, ํ€ด์ฆˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์—์„œ Erica๊ฐ€
11:07
shyness at school. I guessed that she raisedย  her hand to answer the teacher's questions.ย ย 
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ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜์ค์Œ์„ ๊ทน๋ณตํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์†์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:13
It was a good guess, Sam, but theย  correct answer is b - she copied theย ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์ถ”์ธก์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”, Sam, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋‹ต์€ b์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค -
11:17
body language of her cool teenage classmates,ย  so probably lots of rolled eyes and slouching!ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‹ญ๋Œ€ ๋™๊ธ‰์ƒ์˜ ๋ฐ”๋”” ๋žญ๊ท€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
11:25
OK, let's recap the vocabulary from this programmeย  about online body language - non-verbal ways ofย ย 
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์ž, ์ด ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์—์„œ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ๋ฐ”๋”” ๋žญ๊ท€์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ์š”์•ฝํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:31
communicating using the body. Eye contact isย  when two people look at each other's eyes atย ย 
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. ๋ชธ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์–ธ์–ด์  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ด ์ปจํƒ ์€ ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋™์‹œ์— ์„œ๋กœ์˜ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ
11:37
the same time. Brainstorming involves a groupย  discussion to generate new ideas or solutions.ย ย 
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๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ธŒ๋ ˆ์ธ์Šคํ† ๋ฐ์—๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋‚˜ ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜์„ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ํ† ๋ก ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:43
When we process information, we think about itย  carefully in order to understand it. 'In unison'ย ย 
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์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ๋•Œ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 'In unison'
11:49
means happening together and at the same time. Andย  finally, 'the water cooler effect' is an Americanย ย 
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์€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋™์‹œ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ '์›Œํ„ฐ ์ฟจ๋Ÿฌ ํšจ๊ณผ'๋Š” ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ๊ฐ„์˜
11:56
expression to describe informal conversationsย  between people at work. Neil is looking at hisย ย 
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๋น„๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ํ‘œํ˜„ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Neil์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜
12:02
watch, which is body language that tells me ourย  six minutes are up! Goodbye for now! Goodbye!ย ย 
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์‹œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ๊ณ„๋Š” 6๋ถ„์ด ๋‹ค ๋˜์—ˆ์Œ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋””๋žญ๊ท€์ง€ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์•ˆ๋…•! ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”!
12:13
Hello. This is 6 Minute English from BBC Learningย  English. I'm Sam. And I'm Neil. Sleep - we allย ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. BBC Learning English์˜ 6๋ถ„ ์˜์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜๋ฉด - ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š”
12:20
need it - some more than others. I can usually getย  by with around seven hours a night but I do likeย ย 
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ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ณดํ†ต ๋ฐค์— 7์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ •๋„๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌผ๋ก 
12:27
to have a nap - a short sleep - in the afternoon,ย  when I'm not working of course. How about you,ย ย 
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์ผํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์˜คํ›„์— ๋‚ฎ์ž ์„ ์ž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”,
12:32
Neil? I'm always tired and as soon as my head hitsย  the pillow, I'm out like a light - meaning I goย ย 
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๋‹? ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•˜๊ณ  ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ ๊ฐœ์— ๋‹ฟ์ž๋งˆ์ž ๋ถˆ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰,
12:38
to sleep very quickly. Well, Neil, you mightย  not survive in South Korea then. Apparently,ย ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ž ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, Neil, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹  ์€ ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:44
it's one of the most stressed and tired nations onย  earth - a place where people work and study longerย ย 
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ง€๊ตฌ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•œ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ด๋Š ๊ณณ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณต๋ถ€
12:50
hours and get less sleep than anywhere else. We'llย  find out more later and teach some sleep-relatedย ย 
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ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ž ์„ ๋œ ์ž๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋” ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ์ˆ˜๋ฉด๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น  ๊ฒƒ
12:56
vocabulary. But before we do, you need toย  give me a question to keep me awake and alert!ย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ „์— ์ €๋ฅผ ๊นจ์šฐ๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์ฃผ์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
13:02
Of course I do, and here it is. In the 1960s,ย  American man, Randy Gardner, set the world recordย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1960๋…„๋Œ€์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ๋žœ๋”” ๊ฐ€๋“œ๋„ˆ(Randy Gardner)๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๊นจ์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ์„ธ์› 
13:10
for staying awake for the longest period. Do youย  know what that time was? Was it: a) 64 hours, b)ย ย 
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์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์ œ์˜€๋Š”์ง€ ์•„์„ธ์š”? a) 64์‹œ๊ฐ„, b)
13:19
164 hours, or c) 264 hours? All sound impossibleย  but I'll guess a) 64 hours - that's nearly 3ย ย 
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164์‹œ๊ฐ„, ๋˜๋Š” c) 264์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ์ถ”์ธกํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. a) 64์‹œ๊ฐ„ - ๊ฑฐ์˜ 3
13:29
days! I'll give you the answer laterย  in the programme - assuming you don't doze off!ย ย 
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์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ์กธ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ • ํ•˜์— ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ํ›„๋ฐ˜์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:35
But let's talk more about sleep now. As Iย  mentioned, we all need it to help our mindย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ œ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๋งˆ์Œ
13:40
and body rest and relax. And going without sleepย  - or sleeplessness - is bad for our health.ย ย 
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๊ณผ ๋ชธ์ด ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž ์„ ์ž์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž  ๋ชป ์ด๋ฃจ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:46
Many things can stop us sleeping and some of themย  are pressure, anxiety and stress caused by yourย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ž ๋“ค๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋Š” ์—…๋ฌด๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ์••๋ฐ•, ๋ถˆ์•ˆ ๋ฐ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค
13:54
job. And in South Korea research has shown it'sย  become increasingly difficult to switch off - stopย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ๊ตญ์˜ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด ์ „์›์„ ๋„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:00
thinking about work and relax. South Koreans sleepย  fewer hours and have higher rates of depressionย ย 
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. ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ณ  ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ๊ตญ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค
14:07
and suicide than almost anywhere else. Se-Woongย  Koo has been reporting on this for the BBC Worldย ย 
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์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ด๋Š ๊ณณ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ž ์„ ์ ๊ฒŒ ์ž๊ณ  ์šฐ์šธ์ฆ๊ณผ ์ž์‚ด๋ฅ ์ด ๋” ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์„ธ์›…์€ BBC World Service Documentary ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ณด๋„ํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:12
Service Documentary podcast. He met one workerย  who explained why she never got time to relax.ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋Š” ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ์ง์›์„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:21
Separating work and rest time has been a recurringย  issue for Ji-an - in her last job her office hoursย ย 
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์ผ๊ณผ ํœด์‹ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€์•ˆ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ทผ๋ฌด ์‹œ๊ฐ„
14:27
were long. Like most Korean firms, her employerย  didn't think about any boundaries. They encroachedย ย 
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์€ ๊ธธ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํ•œ๊ตญ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ณ ์šฉ์ฃผ ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
14:33
on almost all her time. They told me 'you needย  to be contactable 24/7' - there will always beย ย 
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ž ์‹ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ '๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฐ์ค‘๋ฌดํœด 24์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• 
14:42
someone from work reaching out to me, likeย  needing to get something done right now.ย ย 
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์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:45
Even just thinking about it, I get reallyย  agitated. So, that stressed out worker gotย ย 
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์ƒ๊ฐ๋งŒ ํ•ด๋„ ์ •๋ง ๋–จ๋ ค์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์€ ๊ทผ๋กœ์ž๋Š”
14:51
agitated just thinking about the situation - sheย  got worried or upset. That's because office hoursย ย 
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์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์ดˆ์กฐํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทผ๋ฌด
14:58
in South Korea are long and some employers expectย  their workers to be contactable all the time. Yes,ย ย 
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ธธ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ณ ์šฉ์ฃผ ๋Š” ์ง์›์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ,
15:06
there are no boundaries - so no limits or rulesย  about when employers can contact their employees.ย ย 
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๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์—†์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ณ ์šฉ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์ง์›์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œํ•œ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทœ์น™์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:12
Therefore, as this employee said, work encroachedย  - it gradually took over - her leisure time.ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด ์ง์›์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ผ ์ด ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ž ์‹ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:19
Stress like this can lead to insomnia - aย  condition where you are unable to sleep.ย ย 
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์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ๋Š” ์ž ์„ ์ž˜ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ƒํƒœ์ธ ๋ถˆ๋ฉด์ฆ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:24
The BBC Discovery podcast goes on to explainย  that offering a cure for this sleeplessnessย ย 
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BBC ๋””์Šค์ปค๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ด ๋ถˆ๋ฉด์ฆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฒ•์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š”
15:29
has become big business. There are sleep clinicsย  where doctors assess people overnight, and sleepย ย 
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๊ฒƒ์ด ํฐ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐค์ƒˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋ฉด ํด๋ฆฌ๋‹‰๊ณผ ๊ทผ๋ฌด์ผ
15:36
cafes that offer places to nap in the middle ofย  the working day. One other issue in South Koreaย ย 
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์ค‘๊ฐ„์— ๋‚ฎ์ž ์„ ์ž˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋ฉด ์นดํŽ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ
15:42
that's affecting sleep is the 'bali bali' culture,ย  meaning 'quickly, quickly' or 'hurry, hurry'.ย ย 
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์ˆ˜๋ฉด์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” '๋นจ๋ฆฌ, ๋นจ๋ฆฌ' ๋˜๋Š” '์„œ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ, ์„œ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ'๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” '๋ฐœ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐœ๋ฆฌ' ๋ฌธํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:48
People are constantly in a rush. Doctor Leeย  spoke to the World Service's Discovery podcastย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ์„œ๋‘๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ฐ•์‚ฌ ๋Š” ์›”๋“œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์˜ ๋””์Šค์ปค๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ
15:54
about the effects of this and how evenย  trying to take medication to help sleep,ย ย 
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์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ๊ณผ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์„ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•ฝ์„ ๋ณต์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์กฐ์ฐจ
15:59
has its problems. People take like, ten orย  twenty pills per one night, and because theyย ย 
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๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•˜๋ฃป๋ฐค์— ์—ด ์•Œ, ์Šค๋ฌด ์•Œ ์ •๋„ ๋จน๊ณ 
16:09
cannot fall asleep even with the medication, theyย  drink alcohol on top of that, and they experienceย ย 
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, ์•ฝ์„ ๋จน์–ด๋„ ์ž ์ด ์•ˆ์™€์„œ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์ˆ ์„ ๋”ํ•ด ๋จน๊ณ 
16:15
side-effects of the medication. Peopleย  can sleepwalk, and go to the refrigerator,ย ย 
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, ์•ฝ์˜ ๋ถ€์ž‘์šฉ์„ ๊ฒช๋Š”๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์€ ๋ชฝ์œ ๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ƒ‰์žฅ๊ณ ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
16:23
eat a lot of things unconsciously - uncookedย  food, and they don't remember the next day. Thereย ย 
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๋ฌด์˜์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋จน์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตํžˆ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์Œ์‹์€ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚ ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชฝ์œ ๋ณ‘ ํ™˜์ž
16:30
were cases of car accidents in the centre ofย  Seoul which has been sleepwalking patients.ย ย 
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์˜€๋˜ ์„œ์šธ ํ•œ๋ณตํŒ์—์„œ ๊ตํ†ต์‚ฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋‚œ ์‚ฌ๋ก€ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:37
So, some people are taking lots of pills toย  help them sleep but they're not working soย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์„ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์•ฝ์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
16:42
they're drinking alcohol as well. This leadsย  to side-effects - unpleasant and unexpectedย ย 
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์ˆ ๋„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ€์ž‘์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:47
results from the medication. It seems, one ofย  these side-effects is sleepwalking - movingย ย 
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. ์•ฝ๋ฌผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ƒ์น˜ ๋ชปํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ถ€์ž‘์šฉ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋Š” ๋ชฝ์œ ๋ณ‘(
16:53
around and doing things while still asleep.ย  Well, if sleeping pills aren't working,ย ย 
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์•„์ง ์ž ๋“  ์ƒํƒœ์—์„œ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ)์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ œ๊ฐ€ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€
16:58
there's always meditation - or working less.ย  At least South Koreans are getting some sleep,ย ย 
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์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ช…์ƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ผ์„ ๋œ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์–ด๋„ ํ•œ๊ตญ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ž ์„ ์ข€ ์ž๊ณ 
17:03
unlike Randy Gardner who I asked youย  about earlier. Yes, he holds the recordย ย 
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์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•œ ๋žœ๋”” ๊ฐ€๋“œ๋„ˆ์™€๋Š” ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์š” . ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Š”
17:07
for staying awake the longest. And I thoughtย  he stayed awake for 64 hours. Was I right?ย ย 
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๊นจ์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ 64์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊นจ์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งž์•˜์–ด?
17:13
No, Neil. Not long enough. Randy Gardner stayedย  awake for an incredible 264.4 hours - that's 11ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‹. ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๊ธธ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Randy Gardner๋Š” 1964๋…„ 1์›” ์— ๋†€๋ผ์šด 264.4์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊นจ์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:23
days and 25 minutes - in January 1964. That'sย  one record I really don't want to beat. Well,ย ย 
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. ์ฆ‰, 11์ผ 25๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๊นจ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ,
17:31
before you nod off Neil, let's recap someย  of the vocabulary we've been discussing,ย ย 
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Neil์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋„๋•์ด๊ธฐ ์ „์—,
17:36
including 'go out like a light', which meansย  you go to sleep very quickly. When you switchย ย 
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'go out like a light'๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จ ํ•˜์—ฌ ๋งค์šฐ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ž ์— ๋“ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜์—ฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•ด ์˜จ ์–ดํœ˜ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์š”์•ฝํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šค์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ
17:42
off you stop concentrating on one thingย  and start thinking about something else.ย ย 
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๋„๋ฉด ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:46
A lack of sleep or rest can make you 'agitated'ย  - you get worried or upset. 'Encroach' meansย ย 
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์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ด๋‚˜ ํœด์‹ ๋ถ€์กฑ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ '์ดˆ์กฐ'ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ฆ‰, ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. '์ž ์‹ํ•˜๋‹ค'๋Š”
17:53
gradually take over. When you take medication andย  it gives you an unpleasant and unexpected results,ย ย 
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์ ์ง„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ๋ นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ์„ ๋ณต์šฉ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ƒ์น˜ ๋ชปํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๋•Œ
17:59
we call these side-effects. And sleepwalkingย  describes moving around and doing things whileย ย 
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์ด๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์ž‘์šฉ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชฝ์œ ๋ณ‘ ์€ ์•„์ง ์ž ๋“  ์ƒํƒœ์—์„œ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:05
still asleep. That's our six minutes up. Goodbyeย  and sweet dreams! Goodbye!
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. 6๋ถ„ ๋‚จ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”. ์ข‹์€ ๊ฟˆ ๊พธ์„ธ์š”! ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”!
18:17
Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English, I'm Neil. And joining me it'sย Rob. Hello!
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, 6 Minute English์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” Neil์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ Rob์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”!
18:23
Now Rob, would you say you're someone who is quite organised? I'd like to think so. What's the best way
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์ด์ œ Rob, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฝค ์กฐ์ง์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
18:28
to organise everything? You need a 'to-do' list - a list of all theย jobs you need to do that you can work yourย ย 
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? 'ํ•  ์ผ' ๋ชฉ๋ก์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž‘์—… ๋ชฉ๋ก
18:35
way through. That's a good idea and somethingย  we can include in today's discussion aboutย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ฉฐ ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ์ธ์ƒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํ† ๋ก ์— ํฌํ•จํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ
18:39
life admin. Admin is short for administrationย  - that describes the activities and tasks youย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Admin์€ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ค„์ž„๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. -
18:45
have to do to make a business or organisationย  run smoothly - but life admin is administrationย ย 
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๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค๋‚˜ ์กฐ์ง ์„ ์›ํ™œ
18:50
you have to do to make your day-to-day life runย  smoothly - like doing housework, or paying aย ย 
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ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ™œ๋™๊ณผ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋˜๋Š”
18:56
bill. And the first thing on my 'to-do' listย  is to ask you and the listeners, a question.ย ย 
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์ฒญ๊ตฌ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด 'ํ•  ์ผ' ๋ชฉ๋ก์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ผ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž์—๊ฒŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:01
Yes, you wouldn't want to forget that. So, theย  website Hotels.com commissioned some researchย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ Hotels.com์€
19:06
about how much time young adults - that'sย  millennials - spend doing life admin. Do youย ย 
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์ Š์€ ์„ฑ์ธ, ์ฆ‰ ๋ฐ€๋ ˆ๋‹ˆ์–ผ ์„ธ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์ธ์ƒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์— ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์˜๋ขฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:12
know what proportion of their free time they spendย  doing life admin tasks? Is it... a) a quarter of aย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ค‘ ์ƒํ™œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ์ž‘์—…์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์œจ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€... a) ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ 1/4
19:18
day, b) a third of a day, c) half a day? Basedย  on my personal experience, I would say about aย ย 
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, b) ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ 1/3, c) ๋ฐ˜๋‚˜์ ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‚ด ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ 1/4 ์ •๋„๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜
19:25
quarter of a day. Well, we'll see if you're theย  same as other people at the end of the programme.ย ย 
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์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด ๋๋‚˜๋ฉด ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:29
But as we all know, life admin is necessaryย  but it can be a bit of a chore - a boring,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ƒํ™œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•„์š” ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
19:35
ordinary task you do regularly. Experts haveย  studied the subject and looked at how we do itย ย 
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์ผ์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ณ  ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ž‘์—…์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ์ด ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€,
19:41
and how we can make it less boring. One of themย  is Elizabeth Emens, Professor of Law at Columbiaย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋œ ์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์€ Columbia University์˜ ๋ฒ•ํ•™ ๊ต์ˆ˜
19:46
University and author of The Art of Life Admin.ย  She's been speaking to the BBC Radio 4 programme,ย ย 
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์ด์ž The Art of Life Admin์˜ ์ €์ž์ธ Elizabeth Emens์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” BBC ๋ผ๋””์˜ค 4 ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ธ Woman's Hour์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ•˜์—ฌ
19:52
Woman's Hour, and described what she thought lifeย  admin is. Life admin is theย ย 
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์ธ์ƒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ƒํ™œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋Š”
19:58
office work of life, it's the invisible layerย  of work that is the kind of thing that managersย ย 
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์‚ถ์˜
20:03
and secretaries, aka admins, do for pay inย  the office but that everyone does in theirย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ๋น„์„œ, ์ผ๋ช… ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ž์‹ 
20:10
own lives for free. She calls life admin theย  invisible layer of work - so it's work, tasksย ย 
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์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์˜ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ณ„์ธต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ƒํ™œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ž‘์—… ๊ณ„์ธต์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
20:18
or chores we carry out that people don't noticeย  we're doing - or don't realise we have to do themย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์„ ์ธ์ง€ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ, ์ž‘์—… ๋˜๋Š” ์ง‘์•ˆ์ผ
20:23
it's extra work in our life. And we don't get paidย  for it - unless we're at work when it is the roleย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ˆ
20:29
of someone to do it - such as secretaries or akaย  admins - aka is short for 'also known as' - soย ย 
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์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„์„œ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์ผ ๋•Œ ์ง์žฅ์— ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ ์ผ๋ช… '์ผ๋ช…'์˜ ์ค„์ž„๋ง์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
20:37
secretaries might also be known as admins - thatย  is short for people who do administration. Right,ย ย 
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๋น„์„œ๋„ ์•Œ๋ ค์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž - ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ค„์ž„๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์•„์š”,
20:43
so we know life admin is boring and we don't getย  paid for it - and also, trying to renew your houseย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ฃผํƒ ๋ณดํ—˜์„ ๊ฐฑ์‹ 
20:48
insurance or trying to query a bill with a utilityย  company can be frustrating and feels like a wasteย ย 
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ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ณต๊ณผ๊ธˆ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ์ฒญ๊ตฌ์„œ๋ฅผ ์กฐํšŒํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค๋ง์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ญ๋น„์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:54
of time. A utility company by the way, is oneย  that supplies something such as electricity,ย ย 
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. ์œ ํ‹ธ๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ „๊ธฐ,
21:00
gas, or water to the public. My problem is Iย  never get round to doing my life admin - thereย ย 
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๊ฐ€์Šค ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Œ€์ค‘์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์ต์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:05
are better things to do - so you could say Iย  procrastinate - I delay doing things until later,ย ย 
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ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋” ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๋ฃจ๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๋‚˜์ค‘์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๋ฃจ
21:11
probably because I don't want to doย  them. You are what Elizabeth classifiesย ย 
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๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ Elizabeth
21:14
as an 'admin avoider'. So this is where my to-doย  list comes in handy, Neil. You have a writtenย ย 
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๊ฐ€ '๊ด€๋ฆฌ ํšŒํ”ผ์ž'๋กœ ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜ํ•œ ๋Œ€์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ํ•  ์ผ ๋ชฉ๋ก์ด ์œ ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Neil. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
21:20
record of tasks that can be quite satisfying toย  cross off as you do them. This is somethingย ย 
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์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ง€์šฐ๊ธฐ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ž‘์—… ๊ธฐ๋ก ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
21:26
Elizabeth Emen has found to work, at least forย  some people. Let's hear from her again. Whatย ย 
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Elizabeth Emen์ด ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์ž.
21:31
type of people did she find get most satisfactionย  from completing a to-do list?
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ฐพ์€ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•  ์ผ ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ์™„์„ฑํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
21:36
If you've ever made a list and put things onย  it you've already done, just to cross them out,ย ย 
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๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ ์–ด ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ง€์šฐ๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ด๋ฏธ ์™„๋ฃŒ
21:41
then you know the kind of 'done it' pleasure thatย  goes with that. But actually I interviewed people,ย ย 
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ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋Š” '์™„๋ฃŒ'์˜ ๊ธฐ์จ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค
21:45
especially the super-doers that I interviewed,ย  actually can find real pleasure in the actualย ย 
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, ํŠนํžˆ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ•œ ์ดˆ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ž๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ์„œ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์จ
21:51
doing of it - and, so, trying to understand how we canย  get to that when we have to do it - how we canย ย 
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์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:57
make it so that there is some meaning in it andย  some texture and there're ways of doing it thatย ย 
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๊ทธ ์•ˆ์— ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์™€ ์งˆ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ๋„๋ก
22:03
please us. So, she was describing the super-doersย  - these are the people who love admin and wouldย ย 
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๋งŒ๋“œ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์Šˆํผ ํ–‰์œ„์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค์€ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘
22:10
spend an evening putting their book collectionย  into alphabetical order! Elizabeth mentionedย ย 
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ €๋…์— ์ฑ… ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์„ ์•ŒํŒŒ๋ฒณ ์ˆœ์„œ๋กœ ์ •๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ! Elizabeth
22:15
that we should learn from the super-doers and getย  some 'done it' pleasure in doing our life admin.ย ย 
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๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์ธ์ƒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ '์ผ์„ ๋๋‚ธ' ๊ธฐ์จ์„ ์–ป์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:21
We need to find a meaning for doing it - inย  other words, what is represents - so we can seeย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•  ์ผ ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ด์ ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์˜๋ฏธ , ์ฆ‰ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ด๋Š”์ง€ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ
22:25
the benefit of completing our to-do list. How weย  find pleasure from doing life admin is differentย ย 
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ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ์ƒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹
22:31
for different people - so personally, I thinkย  I'll stick with being an 'admin avoider' - butย ย 
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์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” '๊ด€๋ฆฌ ํšŒํ”ผ์ž'๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ ์ˆ˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ ์šฉ์นด๋“œ ์ฒญ๊ตฌ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๋•Œ ๋‚ด์ง€ ์•Š์•„
22:36
that might explain why I just got charged extraย  for not paying my credit card bill on time!ย ย 
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์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์š”๊ธˆ์ด ๋ถ€๊ณผ๋œ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. !
22:42
Well, please don't avoid giving us the answerย  to the quiz question you asked us earlier.ย ย 
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์Œ, ์ด์ „์— ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹  ํ€ด์ฆˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ”ผํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
22:46
Yes. Earlier I asked, researchers,ย  commissioned by Hotels.com, polled 2,000ย ย 
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์˜ˆ. ์•ž์„œ ์ €๋Š” Hotels.com์˜ ์˜๋ขฐ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์›๋“ค์ด 2,000๋ช…์˜
22:51
young professionals about their lives. How muchย  of their free time do they spend doing lifeย ย 
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์ Š์€ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ฌธ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ค‘ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„
22:58
admin? Is it... a) quarter of a day, b) a third ofย  a day, c) half a day? And I said a) a quarter ofย ย 
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ ์—…๋ฌด์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ... a) ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ 1/4, b) ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ 3๋ถ„์˜ 1, c) ๋ฐ˜๋‚˜์ ˆ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” a) ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ 4๋ถ„์˜ 1์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:05
a day. Yes, they spend a quarter of their daysย  carrying out tasks like doctor's appointments,ย ย 
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. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ค‘ 4๋ถ„์˜ 1์„ ์ง„๋ฃŒ ์˜ˆ์•ฝ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ž‘์—…
23:10
waiting in for packages to be delivered and doingย  household chores. Boring! Unlike this programmeย ย 
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์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ํƒ๋ฐฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ์ง‘์•ˆ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋ฃจํ•œ! ์ด ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ๊ณผ ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•œ
23:16
Neil, which is not a chore - one of the wordsย  we discussed today. Yes, our vocabulary todayย ย 
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๋‹จ์–ด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ์žก์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๋‹ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์–ดํœ˜
23:22
included chore - a boring, ordinary task you doย  regularly. We also mentioned admin, short forย ย 
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์—๋Š” ์ž์งˆ๊ตฌ๋ ˆํ•œ ์ผ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ณ  ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์ผ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ, ์ฆ‰
23:28
administration - the activities and tasks you haveย  to do make a business, organisation or just yourย ย 
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๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค, ์กฐ์ง ๋˜๋Š”
23:34
life, run smoothly. We heard aka - meaning 'alsoย  known as' - so for example, Rob aka The master ofย ย 
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์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์›ํ™œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ™œ๋™ ๋ฐ ์ž‘์—…์ธ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. '๋ผ๊ณ ๋„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„'์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ๋ช…์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด Rob ์ผ๋ช… The master of
23:42
6 Minute English! Thanks very much, Neil. Nextย  we heard utility company. That's a company thatย ย 
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6 Minute English! ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‹. ๋‹ค์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ํ‹ธ๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
23:47
supplies something such as electricity, gas, orย  water to the public. And we also heard how Neilย ย 
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์ „๊ธฐ, ๊ฐ€์Šค ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Œ€์ค‘์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” Neil์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
23:53
likes to procrastinate - that's delay doing thingsย  until later, probably because he doesn't want toย ย 
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๋ฏธ๋ฃจ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ผ์„ ๋‚˜์ค‘์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๋ฃจ๋Š”
23:59
do them. Finally, we mentioned super-doers -ย  an informal term to describe people who getย ย 
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๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์Šˆํผ-๋„์–ด(Super-Doers)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š”
24:03
satisfaction out of doing life admin and do lotsย  of it. Like me. Well, it's time to go now butย ย 
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์‚ถ์˜ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋งŒ์กฑ๊ฐ์„ ์–ป๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„๊ณต์‹ ์šฉ์–ด ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ. ์ž, ์ด์ œ ๊ฐˆ ์‹œ๊ฐ„
24:10
there's plenty more to discover on our website atย  bbclearningenglish.com. Goodbye for now. Bye bye.ย ย 
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์ด์ง€๋งŒ bbclearningenglish.com ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์•ˆ๋…•. ์•ˆ๋…•.
24:22
Hello. This is 6 Minute English from BBC Learningย  English. I'm Neil. And I'm Rob. Do you enjoy yourย ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. BBC Learning English์˜ 6๋ถ„ ์˜์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €๋Š” ๋‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋กญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:27
own company, Rob? Do you like being alone?ย  Or do you prefer spending time with friends?ย ย 
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ธฐ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, Rob? ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ˜ผ์ž์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ํ˜ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
24:32
Well, recently I haven't seen my friends muchย  because of coronavirus - in fact, I've hardlyย ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ €๋Š” ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ชป ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:38
seen anyone this past year! It sounds like Rob hasย  become a bit of a hermit - someone who lives aloneย ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ž‘๋…„์—๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋ชป ๋ดค์–ด์š”! Rob ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์€๋‘”์ž, ์ฆ‰ ์‚ฌํšŒ์™€ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:44
and apart from society. Yes, I've been forced toย  spend time alone - but it wouldn't be my choice.ย ย 
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. ์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” ํ˜ผ์ž ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:50
I'd much rather be socialising and visitingย  friends. If, like Rob, the idea of beingย ย 
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์ฐจ๋ผ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ๊ต ํ™œ๋™์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . Rob์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์—
24:55
alone does not appeal to you, it might be hard toย  understand why anyone would choose to be a hermit.ย ย 
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๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ์™œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์€๋‘”์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:01
But some people do - and in this programmeย  we'll be hearing some of the reasons why.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:05
Throughout history and across all cultures, thereย  have been people who choose to leave behind theย ย 
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์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ‹€์–ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฌธํ™” ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ‹€์–ด ์‚ถ์„ ๋– ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ•œ
25:11
life and people the know to live in isolationย  and silence. People like Christopher Wright - anย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๊ณผ ์นจ๋ฌต ์†์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:17
American man who lived in complete isolationย  in the forests of Maine for nearly 30 years!ย ย 
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๊ฑฐ์˜ 30๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ Maine์˜ ์ˆฒ์—์„œ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๋œ ์ฑ„ ์‚ด์•˜๋˜ Christopher Wright์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค!
25:22
When hikers discovered his tent all they foundย  was an alarm clock. So, my quiz question is this:ย ย 
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๋“ฑ์‚ฐ๊ฐ์ด ๊ทธ์˜ ํ…ํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ๋žŒ ์‹œ๊ณ„๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ํ€ด์ฆˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ
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why did Christopher Wright, the hermit ofย  the Maine woods, need an alarm clock? Was it:ย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ฉ”์ธ ์ˆฒ์˜ ์€๋‘”์ž ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํผ ๋ผ์ดํŠธ์—๊ฒŒ ์•Œ๋žŒ ์‹œ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€:
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a) to remind him when to hide his tent?, b) toย  frighten away wild animals?, or c) to wake him upย ย 
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a) ํ…ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ˆจ๊ธธ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?, b) ์•ผ์ƒ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ๋†€๋ผ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด, ๋˜๋Š” c)
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at the coldest part of the night so he didn'tย  freeze to death? Well, if he wanted to be aloneย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ์–ด ์ฃฝ์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ๋ฐค์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ถ”์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๊นจ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ? ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
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so much, I guess he needed to be invisible, soย  I'll say a) to remind him to hide his tent.ย ย 
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, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ํ…ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด a)๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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OK, Rob, we'll find out the answer later.ย  Christopher Wright may be an extreme exampleย ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋กญ, ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋‹ต์„ ์ฐพ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Christopher Wright๋Š”
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of someone seeking solitude, but there areย  many other motivations for becoming a hermit.ย ย 
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๊ณ ๋…์„ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ทน๋‹จ์ ์ธ ์˜ˆ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ , ์€๋‘”์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งŽ์€ ๋™๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Some people are looking for peace and silence,ย  and for others it's about being closer to God,ย ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ‰ํ™”์™€ ๊ณ ์š”ํ•จ ์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํ•˜๋‚˜๋‹˜๊ณผ ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ ,
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focusing on what's inside and finding a sense ofย  joy. Meng Hu is a former librarian who now runs aย ย 
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๋‚ด๋ฉด์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์จ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Meng Hu๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ
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website all about hermits. He says that in ancientย  times, many Chinese hermits seeking solitude wereย ย 
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์€๋‘”์ž์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์ „์ง ์‚ฌ์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณ ๋Œ€์— ๊ณ ๋…์„ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์€๋‘”์ž๋“ค์ด
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followers of the philosopher, Confucius. Here'sย  Meng Hu talking about Confucius to BBC Worldย ย 
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์ฒ ํ•™์ž ๊ณต์ž์˜ ์ถ”์ข…์ž์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ์€ Meng Hu๊ฐ€ BBC World
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Service programme, The Why Factor: His dictumย  was something like, 'When the Emperor is good,ย ย 
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์„œ๋น„์Šค ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ธ The Why Factor์—์„œ ๊ณต์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ์˜ ๊ฒฉ์–ธ ์€ 'ํ™ฉ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ
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serve. When the Emperor is evil, recluse'. Andย  so over a thousand years at least there wereย ย 
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๋ด‰์‚ฌํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ํ™ฉ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•…ํ•˜๋ฉด ์€๋‘”์ž'. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ฒœ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ
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a lot of recluses, there were a lot of educated men whoย  simply couldn't tolerate any more evil - theyย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์€๋‘”์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์•…์„ ์ฐธ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ต์œก๋ฐ›์€ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์ด ๋งŽ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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simply dropped out and they would migrate to smallย  villages, to farms. Meng Hu mentions Confucius'sย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ค‘ํ‡ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„๊ณผ ๋†์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์ฃผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Meng Hu๋Š” ๊ณต์ž์˜
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dictum. A dictum is a short statement or sayingย  which expresses some wise advice or a generalย ย 
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๊ฒฉ์–ธ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†๋‹ด์€ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด๋‚˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ง„์‹ค์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ์งง์€ ์ง„์ˆ ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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truth about life. Confucius's dictum advised thatย  when the Emperor was evil, people should becomeย ย 
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. ๊ณต์ž์˜ ๊ฒฉ์–ธ ์€ ํ™ฉ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•…ํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์€๋‘”์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์กฐ์–ธ
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recluses - people, like hermits, who live aloneย  and avoid contact with others. In the interview,ย ย 
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ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์—์„œ
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Meng Hu uses 'recluse' as a verb - to recluseย  - but this is very uncommon. A more modern wayย ย 
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Meng Hu๋Š” 'recluse'๋ฅผ ๋™์‚ฌ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ์€๋‘”ํ•˜๋‹ค - ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋“œ๋ฌธ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ˜„๋Œ€์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•
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of saying this is, to drop out - to reject theย  normal ways society works and live outside theย ย 
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์€ ์ค‘ํ‡ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์™ธ๋ถ€์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ
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system. A bit like the hippies in the 1960s, youย  mean? Right. Although most hippies weren't lookingย ย 
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ 1960๋…„๋Œ€ ํžˆํ”ผ์กฑ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํžˆํ”ผ
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for isolation, they did have something in commonย  with hermits - the desire to challenge society'sย ย 
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๋“ค์€ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ์„ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์€๋‘”์ž์™€ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์ด
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rules and conventions. Someone who combinesย  the hippie and the hermit is Catholic writer,ย ย 
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์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰ ์‚ฌํšŒ์˜ ๊ทœ์น™๊ณผ ๊ด€์Šต์— ๋„์ „ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์š•๊ตฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํžˆํ”ผ์™€ ์€๋‘”์ž๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ์นœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๊ฐ€ํ†จ๋ฆญ ์ž‘๊ฐ€
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Sara Maitland. Part of a long tradition ofย  Christian hermits, Sara spent forty days andย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋ผ ๋ฉ”์ดํ‹€๋žœ๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋…๊ต ์€๋‘”์ž์˜ ์˜ค๋žœ ์ „ํ†ต์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ธ ์‚ฌ๋ผ๋Š” ์™ธ๋”ด ์Šค์ฝ”ํ‹€๋žœ๋“œ ์„ฌ์˜ ์นจ๋ฌต ์†์—์„œ
27:52
nights alone on the Isle of Skye, seeking Godย  in the silence of the remote Scottish island.ย ย 
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋‹˜์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์Šค์นด์ด ์„ฌ์—์„œ ํ˜ผ์ž 40์ผ ๋ฐค๋‚ฎ์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:59
For her, the magic of silence is something to beย  embraced and taught to children. Here she explainsย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์นจ๋ฌต์˜ ๋งˆ๋ฒ•์€ ํฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€
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more to BBC World Service's, The Why Factor. Mostย  people first encounter silence in bereavement,ย ย 
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๋Š” BBC World Service์˜ The Why Factor์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ณ„, ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋ถ•๊ดด, ์ฃฝ์Œ์—์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์นจ๋ฌต์„ ์ ‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ
28:11
in relationship breakdown and in death and thatย  seems to be about the worst place to start.ย ย 
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๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ตœ์•…์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:20
People say, 'But what should we do?' Never, everย  use 'Go to your room on your own' as a punishment.ย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ 'ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ˆ๋Œ€๋กœ 'ํ˜ผ์ž์„œ ๋ฐฉ์— ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”'๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฒŒ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
28:25
You use it as a reward - 'Darling, you've been soย  good all day, you've been so helpful, why don'tย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - '์—ฌ๋ณด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€
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you go to your room for half an hour now and be onย  your own?' A treat! A reward! Sara says that mostย ย 
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์ด์ œ 30๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”?' ๊ฐ„์‹! ๋ณด์ƒ! Sara๋Š” ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜
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people experience silence after a bereavementย  - the death of a relative or close friend. Sheย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์ด ์นœ์ฒ™์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์ฃฝ์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋ณ„ ํ›„ ์นจ๋ฌต์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
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also thinks that parents should never tell theirย  children, 'Go to your room!' as a punishment.ย ย 
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๋˜ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋…€์—๊ฒŒ '๋ฐฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€!'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒ˜๋ฒŒ๋กœ.
28:49
Instead, being alone should be a treat - a rewardย  or gift of something special and enjoyable.ย ย 
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๊ทธ ๋Œ€์‹  ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ๋ณด์ƒ , ์ฆ‰ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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That way, children learn that being alone canย  actually be enjoyable. I'm still wondering aboutย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ
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that American, Christopher Wright - I supposeย  living alone in the woods was a treat for him...ย ย 
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๊ทธ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ† ํผ ๋ผ์ดํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ถ๊ธˆ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆฒ์—์„œ ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋Œ€์ ‘์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
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I suppose so - but why did he need an alarm clock?ย  Ah yes, your quiz question, Neil. I thought maybeย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์™œ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์•Œ๋žŒ ์‹œ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๋„ค, ํ€ด์ฆˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‹. ์•„๋งˆ๋„
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it was to remind him to hide his tent. Was Iย  right? Well incredibly, Rob, the answer was c)ย ย 
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๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ํ…ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ผ๊นจ์›Œ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋†€๋ž๊ฒŒ๋„ Rob ์”จ์˜ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ c)
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to wake him up at the coldest part of the nightย  so he didn't freeze to death! That's someone whoย ย 
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๋ฐค์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ถ”์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๊นจ์›Œ์„œ ์–ผ์–ด ์ฃฝ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
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really wants to be left alone! A 'hermit' in otherย  words, or a 'recluse' - two ways of describingย ย 
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์ •๋ง ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ง๋กœ '์€๋‘”์ž' ๋˜๋Š” '์€๋‘”์ž' -
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people who live alone and avoid others. OK,ย  let's recap the rest of the vocabulary, startingย ย 
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ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ด๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 'dictum' ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ์š”์•ฝํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด
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with 'dictum' - a short saying often giving wiseย  advice or expressing a general truth about life.ย ย 
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๋ง์€ ์ข…์ข… ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ง„์‹ค์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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People who 'drop out' reject the normal rules ofย  society and live outside the system. Many peopleย ย 
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'์ค‘ํ‡ด'ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์˜ ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ๊ทœ์น™์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค
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experience solitude after a bereavement - theย  death of a close friend or relative. And finallyย ย 
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋ณ„(๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์นœ์ฒ™์˜ ์ฃฝ์Œ) ํ›„์— ๊ณ ๋…์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ
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'a treat' is reward or gift of something special andย  enjoyable. That's all for now, but whether you'reย ย 
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'a treat'์€ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ณด์ƒ ๋˜๋Š” ์„ ๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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listening alone or with others, we hope you'llย  join us again soon, here at 6 Minute English.ย ย 
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ํ˜ผ์ž ๋“ฃ๋“  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋“ฃ๋“  ๊ณง ์—ฌ๊ธฐ 6 Minute English์—์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Don't forget - you'll find us on our website orย  you can download our free app, so you won't missย ย 
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์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ์•ฑ์„ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ๋†“์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ
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any of our programmes. And we are on all theย  main social media sites. Bye bye! Bye for now!
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฃผ์š” ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•! ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์•ˆ๋…•!
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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