Quiet leaders

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They never chose to be leaders,
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yet they calmed the world in a pandemic.
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She leads a large Maori tribe, but not in the way you'd expect.
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You can show strength in different ways when it's needed,
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but I think people will respect leadership more
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if they feel that you are listening to them.
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Their leadership could be described as quiet,
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but what do we mean by that?
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And how do they compare to the more brash leaders we might be used to?
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Leaders talk while others listen, right?
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They use their personality to get what they want.
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Scientists are more used to watching than being listened to:
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quiet, thoughtful experts.
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But in the Covid pandemic, they have led more than ever
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and changed the lives of billions of people.
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Tim Spector: a professor of genetics in the UK.
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Thanks to him and his team, people around the world found out
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that losing your sense of taste and smell were symptoms of Covid.
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That changed the way millions behaved,
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saving countless lives.
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Anthony Fauci took over America's Disease Institute in 1984,
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dealing with things like a relatively small Zika outbreak.
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But that meant he was perfect to help lead the response to coronavirus.
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His messages weren't always popular
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and he disagreed with President Donald Trump.
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The China vaccine, the vaccines that are produced in the United States –
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I don't think it's going to be one winner and only one vaccine:
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what the world needs is more than one vaccine.
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So, what can we learn from quiet leaders?
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And is this style of leadership really the best way?
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We've been taught to believe that we have to be loud, brash,
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push ourselves forwards, be dominant, be in charge – in command.
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And some cultures, you know, really promote this idea
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that this is successful leadership.
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But what the research shows – that, in fact, this kind of leadership
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can be very diminishing in an organisation,
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that can weaken relationships and so, if we've got a...
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a loud leader, who's really silencing others,
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they are not creating an organisation
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which is really unleashing the talent of its peoples.
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So, loud leaders can drown out other talented voices
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and diminish or weaken the organisation.
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What about quieter leaders?
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If you look at these leaders from the scientific community,
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particularly those that have being leading the Covid response,
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such as Tim Spector, Dr Fauci,
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Dr Ashley Bloomfield over here in New Zealand,
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what we see is this sense of calm, quiet assuredness.
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They're very calm under pressure, very resilient and steadfast.
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They look to evidence to provide them with information
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that they give out in a very clear, unambiguous way.
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So, quiet leaders bring calm assurance and steadfastness –
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qualities that are seen in Maori leadership in New Zealand.
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Leadership in the Maori culture can be more like a... a kind of a triangle.
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Whereas in some cultures you'll see that, you know, it's more like this –
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and the leader's on top and everything, sort of, trickles down from the leader.
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Well Maori culture's more like an inverted triangle,
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where leadership is more the bottom
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and their task is to listen to the views of others and...
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as it trickles down to them.
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So, they really cultivate this idea of listening, of paying attention.
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And leadership is very much vested in the collective,
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not in the person.
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Quiet leadership comes from listening to others.
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Maori leaders listen to the views of their group
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before deciding on a course of action.
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So, can we see similarities with our scientists?
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Yeah, I think from what I can gather from Fauci and other scientists is that,
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you know, in the face of adversity, they weren't reacting to it.
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They... they were more responsive, not reactive.
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So, they were really stepping into that moment,
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with that calm assuredness, based on evidence –
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and I think that's very important – not on opinion
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and not pushing their ego forward,
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and not needing to speak loudly in order to be heard –
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but when they did speak, people listened.
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There is a big difference between responding –
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making a decision based on the facts –
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and reacting, which is the result of emotion and opinion.
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So, should we all aspire to be quiet leaders?
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We take this journey of unfolding to become better leaders,
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better listeners, to develop that quiet confidence
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and to know that we don't have to speak just for the sake of it,
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or for the sake of hearing our own voice being heard.
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So, I think this is a quality that we can all cultivate in ourselves
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and, for the quieter amongst us,
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sometimes it's about speaking up more.
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So, it's not always about simply just being silent and quiet,
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but it's really managing our ego,
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managing our defaults, habits, reactions, judgements
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and really taking time to reflect,
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and to look at how we could have done better in a certain situation.
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So, quiet leadership isn't about staying silent;
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it's about listening to others.
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Better listeners become better leaders.
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Linda Te Aho brings the qualities of Maori leadership to her work.
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She leads the Waikato-Tainui, one of the largest tribes,
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or iwi, in New Zealand.
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It has around 80,000 people across the North Island.
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It celebrates its ancient traditions,
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Β  but has a modern, parliamentary-style decision-making body
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and a multi-million dollar budget.
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So, how does Linda make her voice heard?
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As a leader, I need to get out and about and be seen.
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We have a very common mantra,
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if you like, in Maori culture generally,
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which is being a 'kanohi kitea' – a face that's seen.
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So, it's not enough to sit somewhere in an office –
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a head office somewhere – and receive email updates.
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I mean, that's an important part of the role,
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but getting out and about, being seen, going to the events –
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we have a series of cultural and tribal events –
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and I try my very best to get out and...
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and hear what the people have to say
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and respond to questions – be there to respond to questions.
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Linda Te Aho makes personal connections to tribal members
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to better hear their concerns.
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How does this make her an effective leader?
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You can be a strong advocate.
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You can show strength in different ways when it's needed,
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but I think people will respect leadership more
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if they feel that you are listening to them.
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And so, we trying... we continue to work hard
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to find out what is important to the people
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and they're telling us it's employment,
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it's home ownership, it's flexible health delivery.
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Linda is ready to fight for her tribe when needed,
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but listening is a key part of her leadership.
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What other Maori qualities does she bring?
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We have a set of values that we aspire to...
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to live by and one of them is 'whakaiti' or humility
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and that means it's not about you; it's about the people.
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It's... it's about the 'kaupapa' – it's about the topic of the day,
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not about somebody's individual aspirations,
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or – you know – grandiose statements.
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And so, it's putting the people first and putting the issues first,
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rather than your own... you know, your own agenda.
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That's really, really important in the way I have been brought up
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and in my leadership style.
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Humility is an important quality of Maori leadership:
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the focus is on the tribe, not the individual.
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So, is there room for loud people with this kind of leadership?
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It takes a team and so what I try to do is – in my leadership style –
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is maximise the strength that I have
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on my board and in our iwi.
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And I may not be the... be the best person to do certain things
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and I have no problem delegating
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or asking others to do something if I think...
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you know, if this requires this kind of approach, then...
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then I'm absolutely willing to say to somebody:
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'Actually, you might... you might be best placed
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to lead that particular... that particular issue.'
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So yes, there is room for loud people:
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a group is stronger when leaders make use of everyone's strengths.
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So, what have we learnt about quiet leadership?
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Being a good listener is key.
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Good decision-making comes from knowing all the facts.
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Be humble: the community is more important than the individual.
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