Father and Son: Crime drama - Episode 5

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This interview is being recorded
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and may be given in evidence at a later date.
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We are in Interview Room 3, at Beltonfield Police Station.
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The date is the 23rd October 2019
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and the time is 15:34.
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I am DS Callie Pritchard.
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Please state your full name and date of birth.
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Paul Stevenson, 5th July 1979.
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Juliet Arnott, 13/02/1988.
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Mrs Arnott, what is your connection to Jamie Phelps?
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I'm Jamie's PA. We've been working together for seven years.
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I moved with him when he left KPL and started up on his own.
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What is your relationship to Jamie Phelps?
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He's my brother. Look, is this going to take long?
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It'll take as long as it takes, I'm afraid.
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But you're here of your own free will – you may leave at any time.
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Fine. Alright. It's just that... look, I've got work to do.
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Look, I'm only here because Lucy's... Fine. Fine... carry on.
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I'll cut to the chase then, Mr Stevenson.
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According to Lucy Phelps, your sister-in-law,
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there is £15,000 missing from one of her and her husband's accounts –
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money paid to you by your brother.
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Now, help me out here. You appear to be a wealthy man.
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Why was Mr Phelps paying you all that money?
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Jamie's such a wuss. He should have told her.
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Told her what?
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It was an investment.
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We invested in a new cryptocurrency called Wok – really exciting stuff.
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You get a better deal the more coins you buy, so we went in together.
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He sent me the money. I bought us 2,000 Wokcoins.
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Wok – wasn't that in the news recently?
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Yeah. Yeah, it's all folded. Real shame.
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The blockchain got hacked. But look, that's the deal.
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That's the risk. You've got to be in it to win it,
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but you don't invest more than you can afford to lose.
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Could Jamie afford to lose fifteen grand?
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Well, as it turns out, no.
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Idiot.
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But I only found that out this morning.
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He's a lovely, lovely man, you know.
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Head screwed on, heart in the right place.
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And this wee boy – did you say he was found by the side of the road?
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It never occurred to me that Pip was in the car.
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I don't know how he's gotten himself into such a pickle.
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I know no one's saying it, but...
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you must think he's done away with himself.
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That's what blokes do when they have money trouble, isn't it?
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But it's not him – he wouldn't.
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I mean, this morning he was stressed, but he had a plan.
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He was engaged – I could tell.
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A plan for what, do you think?
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To deal with the ransomware.
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What ransomware?
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That's why I'm here, isn't it?
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Hit me.
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Right. So, the company's files were taken ransom
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with this computer-virus malware last night.
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It's pretty simple. The files are stolen and held
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until a ransom is paid. In this case, £25,000.
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The threat is to usually either delete them or publish them online,
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but according to Mrs Arnott the threat was to publish.
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They've got some pretty high-profile clients, so privacy is important.
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And people pay these things?
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Oh yeah. Happens all the time.
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They're smart enough to ask for the amounts of money
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that people might be able to scrape together.
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Who is they?
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Cyber criminals. Anyone, anywhere in the world.
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Even some kid in California, in his bedroom.
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And Jamie got one of these last night?
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Well, it happened last night, but he only realised this morning.
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He called me from the car. Said we'd been hacked and he was on his way in.
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They'd sent emails to his personal account and the company's.
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And how did he seem on the phone?
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A bit shaky, shocked.
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I shouldn't have told you. He made me promise to keep it a secret.
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I know it's a lot of money, but I daresay he's got savings and investments.
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The thing is, if the files were released,
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it's not only his career that would be destroyed.
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Some of our... our clients, you know.
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She wouldn't talk after that. I think it suddenly occurred to her
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that she might be about to lose her job.
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OK... OK. OK.
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So, the brother confirmed to me that he spoke to Jamie this morning.
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Apparently Jamie called him asking for a loan,
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but reading between the lines there's not
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a lot of brotherly love going on there,
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and Paul – charmer that he is – said no.
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Nice. So, he's broke, he's lost all of his savings,
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his business is being blackmailed. His brother...
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Financial adviser of the year, by the way.
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...won't bail him out.
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So, the next person – last person he speaks to is...
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OK. Cheers. Send him up.
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We've only got celebrity chef Arthur Montgomery here.
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Listen – before we get started,
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can I ask him a super-quick question about his baba ganoush recipe?
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No! Not a good idea.
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