The dark side of leadership

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This man promised his followers the world...
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then led them to their deaths.
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This man was once part of a cult's inner circle
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and now works to prevent others from doing the same.
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I went from Stephen Hassan, who was a college student writing poetry,
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and I became a right-wing fascist.
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We look at what happens when leadership turns bad
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and how to avoid becoming caught up in a cult.
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Port Kaituma, Guyana:
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in 1978, 918 people died here
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and in the country's capital.
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This is Jim Jones, an American religious leader.
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He founded an organisation called the People's Temple in the US.
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He took many of his followers to Guyana,
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building a settlement called Jonestown, near Port Kaituma.
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Soon there were reports of beatings, disease and other abuse.
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Jim Jones' mental and physical health became worse.
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November 18th, 1978:
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temple members attacked a plane on this airstrip.
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It was carrying a team investigating Jonestown.
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Five people died. Eleven were injured.
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In Jonestown, the remaining cult members
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drank or were forced to take poison.
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Men, women, children and babies died.
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This pattern has been repeated.
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Political leaders, like Kim Il-sung and Stalin,
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had cult-like followings and were responsible for many, many deaths.
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What gives a leader like this such control over their followers?
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A cult-type leader is typically someone
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who claims to have all the answers needed
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to solve the world's problems and that includes
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whatever problems the individual they're attempting to recruit faces as well.
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As a result of this, they demand absolute commitment from their followers
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and encourage them to escalate their commitment to the group
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until a point is reached, where absolutely every waking moment,
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and all the emotional, and intellectual,
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and financial resources of the person concerned,
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are committed to and involved in the group.
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Cult leaders like to claim to be able to solve the world's and your problems
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and they want your complete devotion.
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Cult leaders are not necessarily easy to spot.
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At the beginning, they are approaching you in a friendly spirit:
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they claim to be offering just some interesting ideas about politics,
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life, religion or whatever,
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and they will only become clearly cult leaders for most people
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after a period of time, when the person concerned
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has already escalated their commitment to the group
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beyond any point of reason.
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Cult leaders are not always easy to spot.
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They can appear very friendly at first.
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Well, if we take Jim Jones as an example,
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he staged miraculous faith healings,
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in which he claimed people were being cured... cured of cancer,
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that the blind could see and the crippled could walk,
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but he didn't necessarily begin
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to influence people by showing them these things.
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At the beginning, most people wandered into
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what seemed to be very warm and inviting church services,
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where they felt welcomed in a way
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that many of them hadn't been welcomed before,
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and it was only after some period of time that they...
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they then were exposed to these deceptive techniques to convince them
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that Jones was a man with amazing powers beyond the norm.
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Leaders like Jim Jones go to great lengths to welcome in new people.
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We can call this being 'love bombed'.
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Most of us are vulnerable to the lure of cult leaders
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at various points in our lives,
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particularly after we have had some kind of stressful experience,
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such as maybe going through a divorce or losing our jobs.
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For example, if you look at the Jonestown group,
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many of the people who joined it had suffered from racist abuse
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in the past, which traumatised them.
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Many others were returning veterans of the Vietnam War,
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who were suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder
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and were looking for some kind of idealistic community or group,
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to which they could join and which would make them feel welcome.
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Leaders promising all the answers
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can seem attractive when we are vulnerable.
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So, how can we recognise these leaders?
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The first thing I think we need to do
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is to require people making extraordinary claims
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to offer a great deal of evidence in support of them.
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Beyond that, if we think we are in an environment
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where we're being subjected to pressures that we don't like,
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that are asking us to constantly escalate our commitment to those groups
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and where criticism of the leader is forbidden
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or discouraged in various ways,
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it is best to try and get out of that environment as quickly as is possible.
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If you are feeling controlled by someone else, it is best to leave.
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This isn't always easy to do,
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so try to get support from others if you can.
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Dr Stephen Hassan knows all about cults.
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In the 1970s, he became a senior figure in the Unification Church –
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more commonly known as the Moonies.
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The Church was set up by a Korean called Sun Myung Moon.
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He claimed to be God's messiah,
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  but members were often cut off from their previous life,
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prevented from seeing family and friends.
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Steven now works to stop others from becoming a victim of cult leaders.
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My personality changed dramatically.
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That's one of the tell-tale signs actually –
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of being in an authoritarian cult –
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is what we refer to as a radical personality change.
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So, I went from Steven Hassan, who was a college student writing poetry,
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who had a ponytail and wore dungarees,
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to a man with a short haircut, a three-piece suit
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and I became a right-wing fascist,
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essentially throwing out my poetry,
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cutting off from my family and friends
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because they raised concerns about my membership.
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So, Steven Hassan's personality
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changed dramatically when he became a Moonie.
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How did he view the leader, Sun Myung Moon?
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So, it's very important to understand that
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I was already programmed to look at him
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as the greatest man in human history,
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so naturally I had my... my blinders on already,
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when I actually met with him and experienced him.
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I've heard many people see him speak and they'd say:
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'He has no charisma. Like, how could you see anything in him?'
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So, that's an interesting phenomenon that...
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that somebody who feels that
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the person's emanating great charisma and power,
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could leave somebody else completely dry.
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Steven admired Sun Myung Moon, but he had been programmed –
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or brainwashed – to be. Others saw him differently.
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How did this inform Steven's view of leadership?
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First of all, I consider myself, before the Moonies, a...
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a bookworm introvert!
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When I got into the cult and I was pushed into leadership positions
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and recruiting strangers on street corners,
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I became very extroverted in my cult identity.
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In fact, I was told to become a small Sun Myung Moon,
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and think like him, and walk like him, and talk like him.
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And when I got out of the cult, I didn't want any leadership;
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I didn't want to influence anybody and...
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and yet, I knew what I knew,
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and I knew that I had a contribution to help others.
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Steven realised he had a leadership role to play
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in preventing others from joining cults.
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So, how does his leadership differ now?
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I want people to ask me questions
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and I answer honestly and responsibly,
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and often people will challenge me and say:
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'We don't agree with this point or that.'
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And I think about it and if I realise they're right,
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I apologise and I change my point of view.
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So, the key... the key is humility, I think.
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Steven encourages people to challenge his views
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and he is willing to change his mind.
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So, how easy is it to fall for a cult these days?
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Social media is intentionally
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going to use information that's gathered about you,
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from all of your activities, all...
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there are some 5,000 data points
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on every human being, I'm told –
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and these are going to be oriented in algorithms towards you.
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So, what I say is: you need to be really sceptical
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and if you're curious about something,
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really do a consumer-awareness approach –
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it's saying they're making this claim –
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it sounds outrageous; I need outrageous level of proof.
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Be sceptical, or wary, of claims being made online
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and check them out thoroughly.
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So, people who make grand promises
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and demand complete loyalty from you
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are likely to be cult-like leaders.
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Even online, question their claims, check their facts.
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If they are authentic, they won't mind.
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