Are women better leaders than men? - Leadership

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Would you like to be led by an all-women team?
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What is it like to be a woman leader in a man's world?
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A huge risk is attached to undertaking
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leadership positions when you're a woman,
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because you are judged on the basis of prejudice –
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prejudice linked to your gender.
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We are going to look at what it takes to be a woman who leads.
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There might be lessons in it for men too.
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The picture that made headlines around the world:
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some of the leaders of Finland's new coalition government,
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notable for their gender and the way this informs
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their policy and leadership.
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All five leaders were women. All but one were under the age of 35
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when they took power in December 2019.
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Sanna Marin, at the age of 34,
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became Finland's youngest ever Prime Minister.
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Finland has a record of leading when it comes to women's rights:
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the first country in the world to give full voting rights to women,
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and one used to females in positions of power.
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The women say there are pitfalls to having an all-female team.
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What we want is not to reproduce
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the excluding structures, that men have used,
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as women, but really, kind of, to change those structures.
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And there have been disagreements between the leaders,
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but Finland won praise for its early handling of the coronavirus pandemic,
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like some other female-led countries,
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And the government is pushing an ambitious equality programme,
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that gives greater rights to trans people,
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encourages parents to share caring responsibilities
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and closes the gender pay gap.
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So, what does Finland's example tell us about female leadership
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in a man's world?
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All women in the 'Finnish Five' coalition
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have, kind of, experiential understanding of,
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you know, exclusion and marginalisation and living in hardship.
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And I think that also makes them, you know,
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understand, care and value it more,
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as well as inclusion and solidarity.
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The Finnish leaders put care at the heart
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of the decisions they make and goals they set.
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But actually working towards that goal involves perseverance,
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and working through difference, and working through conflict,
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and trying to find a way around and through all these differences,
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like political affiliation or beliefs
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or, you know, your stances and so on.
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So, I think women are experientially made to, kind of,
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work in that way from their early age
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and they don't just give up on the first hurdle
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but, you know, persevere.
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The Finnish leaders have different political beliefs,
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but they persevere to work through their differences together.
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A huge risk is attached to undertaking
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leadership positions when you're a woman,
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because you are judged on the basis of prejudice –
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prejudice linked to your gender.
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So, if Finnish Five, for example, was to fail for any reason,
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you know, or misdeliver on the promises that they made,
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they would probably be judged, you know, harsher
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than their male counterparts –
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by politicians or media or their electorate.
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So, women leaders are judged more harshly than male leaders.
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They face prejudice because of their gender. Is that fair?
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The pandemic, or financial crisis, or climate crisis:
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they're... they are making it obvious
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that this kind of inclusive, caring leadership
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is something that we require in order to get through.
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And I think that's what propelled...
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that is exactly what propelled this kind of –
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traditionally understood – this feminine leadership forward.
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And I can see, you know, it being applied widely in the future.
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So, the leadership qualities traditionally associated with women,
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such as caring for others and working together,
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have proven successful in tackling global crises.
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Meggie Palmer started life as a journalist,
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but realised she had a different story to tell.
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Women across the world are generally paid less than men
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and don't hold as many top jobs in companies.
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Meggie decided to do something about that,
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so she set up PepTalkHer.
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It coaches women on getting fair pay
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and pushes for gender balance in senior positions.
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Its aim is to end the pay gap
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and help women become the leaders they want to be.
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So, I've had some really positive experiences as a woman in leadership:
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I've had a lot of men and women who've sponsored me
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to get into more senior roles in the workforce.
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I've also had some really negative experiences in the workplace,
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with inappropriate behaviour, being spoken to differently
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and being treated differently, purely because of my gender.
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Meggie Palmer has had positive and negative experiences.
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She has been supported to reach senior positions,
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but she has also been treated differently to her male colleagues.
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I had an experience of pay inequality in my career:
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I found out that I was being paid less
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and had different terms and conditions to my employment,
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when compared to my male colleagues.
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This didn't seem fair to me, so I raised it with the bosses
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and they said to me: 'Meggie, if you don't like it,
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you can quit or you can take us to court.'
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Now, this is a few years ago, so I hope
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that things have changed somewhat.
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Although, what we know is that the gender pay gap still exists
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all around the world – still to this day.
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Meggie had her own experiences of being paid less
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than her male counterparts – pay inequality –
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and wanted to do something about it.
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Being the only person anywhere is lonely, right?
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If you're the only person of colour, if you're the only woman,
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it's... it can be lonely,
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and so... you know, that's what women leaders tell me – that it is lonely
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and I've... you know, I sit on some not-for-profit boards
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and I've had the experience as well of... of raising issues,
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particularly that pertain to women,
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and just getting crickets from all the men on the board, right?
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And I would get a little bit of support, maybe,
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from one of the other female board members, but we were outnumbered.
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And so, when you're outnumbered, it's really hard to create that change, right?
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And so, it's frustrating
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but it's something that we need to continue to talk about.
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We have to keep amplifying this issue.
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Meggie knows what it is like to be one of the only women in the boardroom.
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Women leaders can often feel isolated.
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So, when we think about whose responsibility is it
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to improve these situations,
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really, it's all of our responsibilities.
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This is not a problem just for women to solve;
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this is not a problem just for leadership to solve;
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this is a problem for all of us to solve.
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When you are in middle management and you are hiring,
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you have the ability to say: 'I want to make sure
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that I'm interviewing male and female candidates.' Right?
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When you are interviewing for jobs, you can actively ask:
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'What are the policies here to encourage diversity amongst the team?'
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Meggie says change is everyone's responsibility.
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Everyone, at whatever level, should ask the questions
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that will lead to more equality in the workplace.
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So, we know that when there are women in leadership, companies perform better.
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We know that women-led start-ups return a higher return on investment
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to investors, than teams of start-ups that just have men in leadership.
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We know when we're looking at larger businesses,
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when there are women in the c-suite,
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the net profit of that business goes up.
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When we have women in leadership, what we find is
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the decision-making process is more robust and more effective.
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Research shows that companies that have women in leadership roles
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perform better.
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So, what have we learnt about women in leadership?
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They face more judgement and risk to their reputations,
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but they're likely to prioritise care and compassion in decision-making
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and they can make businesses and governments more effective.
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