4 Ways to Have Healthy Conversations About Race | Afrika Afeni Mills | TED
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翻译人员: Yiyang Hong
校对人员: Sue Lu
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My name is Afrika Afeni.
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我叫阿飞丽卡 ·阿芬尼
(Afrika Afeni)。
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Afrika, spelled with a K,
and Afeni, after Afeni Shakur,
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阿飞丽卡是 K,不是Africa的C;
阿芬尼,取自阿芬尼·沙库尔,
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a member of the Black Panther Party
and mother of Tupac Shakur.
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她是黑豹党 (Black Panther Party) 成员,
图帕克·沙库尔(Tupac Shakur) 的母亲。
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As you might imagine, I grew up
talking about race with my family.
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如你所想,我从小和家人谈论种族话题。
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My father built bookshelves
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父亲在我们布鲁克林公寓建了书架,
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in the living room
of our Brooklyn apartment,
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and my parents filled those shelves
with the books of Black authors
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父母在书架上放满了黑人作家书籍,
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whose words we were unfortunately
unlikely to encounter outside of our home.
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他们的文字在我家之外就很难遇到。
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I have Alex Haley's autograph.
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我有亚历克斯·黑利的亲笔签名。
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Alex Haley, writer of "Roots,"
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亚历克斯·黑利是《根》的作者,
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and transcriber of
"The Autobiography of Malcolm X."
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也是《马尔科姆·X自传》的誊写者。
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As you can see in the picture,
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正如你在照片中所见,
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Alex Haley referred to me
as his “little sister.”
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亚历克斯·黑利称我为他的“小妹妹”。
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Talking and reading with my family
about race was commonplace,
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和家人谈论阅读种族话题是司空见惯的,
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and many of the children in my community
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而且我所在社区的许多孩子
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and students in my schools
look just like me.
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以及同校的学生长得都很像我。
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Even though my parents taught me
as much as they could about race,
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虽然父母尽力教育我有关种族的知识,
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I had not experienced
having these conversations
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但我从未有机会
和不同种族的人进行种族对话。
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with people who were
racially different from me.
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When I went away
to a predominantly white college,
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当我去到一个以白人为主的大学时,
我对这些对话所引发的情感毫无准备。
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I was not prepared
for the emotions that I experienced
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when having these conversations.
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01:10
For example, when another student asked,
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例如,当另一个学生问道:
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"Why do you need a Black History Month
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“为什么你们需要黑人历史月,
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and why isn't there
a White History Month,"
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而为什么没有白人历史月”时,
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I found myself feeling very frustrated.
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我发现自己感到非常沮丧。
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Learning to have conversations
with people about race
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学习与不同种族的人进行有关种族的交流
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across racial difference
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has been a part of my own
deepening learning journey.
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已成为我个人学习深化历程的一部分。
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Though it can be hard,
let me encourage you.
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尽管这可能很困难,但我要鼓励你。
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Having conversations about race is just
another hard thing we can learn to do.
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就种族问题进行对话
只是我们能学会的另一件难事。
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I know this because I'm an educator.
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我懂这个,因为我是教育工作者。
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I have been for over 20 years.
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我已经从事这个工作超过 20 年了。
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I have supported teachers
and students around the country
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我支持全国各地的教师和学生
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to teach and learn in ways that honor
the dignity and worth of all people.
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以尊重所有人的尊严
和价值的方式进行教育和学习。
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In this work, it is clear
that having conversations about race,
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在这项工作中,很明显,谈论种族问题,
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particularly with our students,
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特别是与我们的学生谈论种族问题,
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is not a luxury but a necessity.
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不是一种奢侈,而是一件必要的事。
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And there's no better place
to begin having these conversations
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而开始进行这些对话的最佳地点
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than with our students.
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就是我们学生的所在。
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It's not that adults can't learn
to have healthy conversations about race,
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这并非说成年人学不会
就种族问题进行健康对话,
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but the minds of children
are more malleable.
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而是因为儿童的思维更具有可塑性。
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This is why it's easier to learn
to do challenging things
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年轻时更易学会具挑战性的事情,
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like play an instrument,
ride a bike, play a sport
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例如弹奏乐器、骑自行车、参加体育运动
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or to become fluent
in a new language when we're young.
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或熟练掌握一门新语言等。
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If we teach children to be comfortable
talking about race from the beginning,
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如果我们从一开始就教育
儿童自如地谈论种族问题,
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they will likely have fewer falls
and missteps, less baggage,
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他们可能会遭遇较少的困惑和错误,
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less to unlearn, and biased ideas
will be less likely to take hold.
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更少思想包袱,也不太可能产生偏见。
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We can then imagine a future
where we can have productive dialogue
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然后我们可以设想一个未来, 在那里
我们跨越分歧进行有效对话和讨论。
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and discussions across our differences.
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02:35
Today, I'm going to share with you
four steps you can take
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今天,我将与你分享四个步骤,
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to do challenging things,
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去帮助你完成具有挑战性的事情,
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particularly having
conversations about race:
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尤其是进行种族对话:
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identify your challenge;
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确定你的挑战;
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find your support network;
prepare; and begin.
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找到支持你的网络,准备就绪,开始。
02:49
In my work with educators
around the country,
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在我与全国各地的教育工作者的合作中,
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when we explore what's challenging
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当我们探索种种挑战,
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about having conversations
with students about race,
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关于如何与学生讨论种族问题等,
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they often say things like,
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人们经常会说,
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"I don't have the resources
to have these conversations."
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“我没有资源去展开这些对话。”
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In fact, in EdWeek Research Center's
2020 special report,
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在教育周刊研究中心 2020 年特别报告
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"Big Ideas for Confronting
Racism in Education,"
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“对抗教育中种族主义的伟大构想”中,
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though 81 percent of the more
than 800 educators surveyed
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接受调查的800多位教育者,
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identified as anti-racist educators,
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有81 %自认是反种族主义者,
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only 14 percent of them said that they had
both the training and the resources
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但其中只 14% 的人有资源也受过培训
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to have these conversations with students.
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去和学生们展开这样的对话。
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Though this statistic holds true,
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虽然这个统计数据属实,
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there are several organizations
that provide free instructional resources
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现有几个组织在提供免费教学资源
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that support lessons and dialogue
with students about race.
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支持与学生展开关于种族的对话和课程。
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So access to instructional resources
isn't the true challenge.
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所以获得教学资源并不是真正的挑战。
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If we're honest with ourselves,
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实话说,
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it's easier to identify
external factors as challenges
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将外部因素确定为挑战很容易,
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than it is for us to accept responsibility
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难的是我们接受并承担责任,
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to influence what is
within our locus of control.
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以此影响我们控制范围内的事物。
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When I go deeper with educators,
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当我深入了解那些教育工作者时,
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they share that the underlying
challenge is actually fear.
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他们都认同潜在的挑战实际上是畏惧。
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They're afraid of saying the wrong thing
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他们害怕说错话,
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or doing harm when talking
with students about race.
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或在和学生谈论种族问题时伤害到他们。
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This is understandable,
especially considering the history
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这可以理解,特别是考虑到历史上
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and current manifestations
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和目前出现的
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of substantial racial harm
in this country.
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这个国家严重的种族歧视。
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But when we identify the true challenge,
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所以当我们确认真正的挑战时,
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not the school or the lack
of resources, but fear,
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不是学校,也不是资源匮乏,而是恐惧,
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is an essential first step.
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这是必须面对的第一步。
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Once we can name what's
at the heart of our challenge,
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一旦我们确定挑战的核心是什么,
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we can begin to overcome it
with the next step:
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我们可以通过下一步开始克服它:
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finding our support network.
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寻找我们的支持网络。
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Too often attempts to begin
having conversations
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常常试图展开对话
和学生讨论种族问题,却遭受挫败,
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with students about race fail
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because the fear
of making mistakes takes over.
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就是因为害怕犯错占据了一切。
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When we try to do this work
on our own and we face a challenge,
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当尝试独自完成这个工作并面临挑战时,
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say, for example, a student says something
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比如说,一个学生说了什么
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or asks a question that we're not prepared
to address or answer,
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或提出我们没有准备好答案的问题,
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in our minds, we can say things like,
"Oh, this is uncomfortable.
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我们会在心里说,“哦,这让人很不安。
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I don't like being uncomfortable.
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我不喜欢感到不安。
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I don't think I want to do this anymore."
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我不想再做这个了。”
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It's important for us
to be surrounded by a community of people
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对我们来说,重要的是周围要有一群人,
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who are committed to doing this work.
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一群志同道合的人。
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My colleague Jenna Chandler-Ward,
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我的同事詹娜·钱德勒·沃德,
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a white woman and cofounder
of “Teaching While White,”
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一位白人,“白人教学”的联合创始人,
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facilitates racial accountability spaces.
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其组织为种族责任空间提供便利和帮助。
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She regularly hears
from white teachers and students
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她经常会听到白人教师和学生们讲,
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that they are afraid
to say the wrong thing.
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他们很畏惧说错话。
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She shares with them
that she herself has remained silent
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她告诉他们,她自己也会保持沉默
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to avoid conflict and for fear
of making things worse.
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以避免冲突,怕使事情变得更糟。
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Jenna says if we are not
intentionally seeking people
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珍娜说如果不有意寻找能为我们
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to hold up a mirror
and hold us accountable,
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提供一面镜子并让我们负起责任的人,
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we'll end up surrounding ourselves
with people who affirm our beliefs
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我们最终会与认同我们信仰的人为伍,
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instead of challenging us
to see something more.
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而不是挑战自己去见识更多的东西。
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The more perspectives we have,
the broader our understanding will be,
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拥有的视角越多,我们的理解就越广泛,
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especially from people
who are at different points
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尤其是对于那些处于不同
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of racial identity development.
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种族身份发展阶段的人。
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If we are part of a group of people
who are doing this work together,
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如果我们是做这项工作的团队中的一员,
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we have a place to take that discomfort
and work through it.
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我们就有地方置放这种不安并克服它。
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It will help us to remember
that we're not alone
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这会帮我们记住我们并非单打独斗,
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and help us to feel less isolated.
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从而减少孤立无援之感。
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Once we find our support network,
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一旦找到我们的支持网络,
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we can prepare to have conversations
with students about race.
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就可以开始准备与学生的种族问题对话。
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When the student
I mentioned earlier asked me
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当我之前提到的那个学生问我
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why there was a Black History Month
and not a White History Month,
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为什么有黑人历史月没有白人历史月,
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I experienced a whole range of emotions:
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我经历了一系列的情绪变化:
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confusion, hurt, anger.
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困惑,受伤,愤怒。
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Similarly, just as I experienced
a range of emotions,
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同样,就像我经历了一系列情绪,
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so will your students and so will you.
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你的学生和你也会经历的。
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Expect it so you can be prepared.
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有备无患。
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For this work to be sustainable,
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为了使这项工作可持续发展,
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it is important that we prepare
to navigate these conversations
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我们要准备好引导这些对话
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in our learning communities.
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在我们的学习社区里展开。
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We will want to intentionally envision
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我们将需要有意识地设想
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how these conversations
will look and feel.
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这些对话如何开展,人们感觉如何。
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What emotions might the discussions
bring up for our students?
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这些讨论可能会带给学生什么样的情绪?
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What agreements
might we need to have in place
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我们需要达成怎样的协议,
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before we have these discussions?
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在进行这些讨论之前?
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How will you respond to questions,
comments and resistance?
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你将如何回应一些问题,评论和反对?
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How will you repair
any harm that may be done?
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你将如何修复可能造成的伤害?
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You'll want to feel comfortable
responding in the moment
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你会想要坦然即时地回应问题,
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instead of reacting
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而不是被动反应,
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if the discussion doesn't go
the way you hoped.
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如果讨论没有如你所愿。
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Once you prepare,
you'll be ready to begin.
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一旦准备好,你就可以开始了。
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Just as in starting anything new,
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就像开始任何新事物一样,
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it can be messy,
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它可能会很乱,
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and you'll make mistakes
because you're human.
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并且你可能会犯错,因为你也是凡人,
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Making mistakes can feel scary,
especially because our work is so public.
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犯错让人害怕,尤其这项工作面对公众。
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When we push through that fear, however,
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然而,当我们克服这种恐惧时,
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we can teach students
to have conversations about race
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我们就可以教学生讨论种族问题,
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and help them to unpack
their misperceptions.
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并帮助他们消除误解。
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In this work with teachers,
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在与老师的合作中,
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it feels like some people
are waiting for the perfect moment
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我感觉有些人在等待一个完美时刻,
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when a racially conscious
version of themselves will appear
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要等到他们具种族意识的自我出现,
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before they begin engaging in this work.
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才能开始投入到这个工作之中。
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That version of yourself
has to be purposely developed and formed,
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那个版本的你需要刻意去发展和塑造,
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and that moment is now.
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而那完美一刻就是现在。
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When we engage in conversations
with our students about race,
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当我们与学生讨论种族问题时,
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we can help to expand their thinking
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我们可以帮助拓展他们的思维,
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and equip them with the language and tools
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并为他们提供一些语言和工具
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that they need to see themselves clearly
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以看清自己,
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and to recognize and value the histories,
perspectives and experiences
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并认识和重视与他们不同的人种
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of people who are unlike them.
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所拥有的历史、观点和经验。
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They'll be prepared to help us
build and sustain a truly just society
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他们将帮助建立维持公正的社会,
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where we all contribute
to the well-being of everyone
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好让我们都能为造福人类
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in our human family.
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做出贡献。
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Remember, having conversations about race
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记住,就种族问题进行对话,
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is just another hard thing
we can learn to do,
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只是我们完全能学会的另一件难事,
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one courageous step at a time.
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请一次迈出勇敢的一步。
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Thank you.
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