4 Ways to Have Healthy Conversations About Race | Afrika Afeni Mills | TED
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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: Helen Chang
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My name is Afrika Afeni.
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我是艾芙莉卡‧艾菲妮。
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Afrika, spelled with a K,
and Afeni, after Afeni Shakur,
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卡的拼音是用 K,
艾菲妮是來自艾菲妮‧夏庫爾,
00:11
a member of the Black Panther Party
and mother of Tupac Shakur.
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她是黑豹黨的成員,
也是圖帕克‧夏庫爾的母親。
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As you might imagine, I grew up
talking about race with my family.
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各位可以想像,我從小
就和家人談論種族。
00:19
My father built bookshelves
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我父親在我們布魯克林的
公寓客廳裡放了書架,
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in the living room
of our Brooklyn apartment,
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and my parents filled those shelves
with the books of Black authors
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我父母在書架上放滿了
黑人作家寫的書,
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whose words we were unfortunately
unlikely to encounter outside of our home.
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很不幸,很少能在我們家以外的
地方聽到這些作家的言論。
00:32
I have Alex Haley's autograph.
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我有艾力克斯‧海利的簽名。
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Alex Haley, writer of "Roots,"
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艾力克斯‧海利是《根源》的作者,
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and transcriber of
"The Autobiography of Malcolm X."
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負責《麥爾坎‧X 自傳》的抄寫。
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As you can see in the picture,
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從照片上可以看到,
00:41
Alex Haley referred to me
as his “little sister.”
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艾力克斯‧海利
稱我為他的「小妹妹」。
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Talking and reading with my family
about race was commonplace,
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和我的家人討論和一起閱讀
關於種族的議題是家常便飯,
00:49
and many of the children in my community
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我的社區裡的許多孩子
00:51
and students in my schools
look just like me.
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及我的學校裡的學生
外表都像我一樣。
00:54
Even though my parents taught me
as much as they could about race,
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雖然我的父母盡可能
教我關於種族的事,
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I had not experienced
having these conversations
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我卻沒有和跟我不同種族的人
進行這類談話的經驗。
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with people who were
racially different from me.
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01:02
When I went away
to a predominantly white college,
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當我去讀一所白人為主的大學時,
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I was not prepared
for the emotions that I experienced
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對於這類談話帶給我的情緒,
我完全沒有準備。
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when having these conversations.
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01:10
For example, when another student asked,
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比如,另一位學生問:
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"Why do you need a Black History Month
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「為什麼需要有黑人歷史月?
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and why isn't there
a White History Month,"
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為什麼沒有白人歷史月?」
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I found myself feeling very frustrated.
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我非常有挫折感。
01:20
Learning to have conversations
with people about race
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學習和不同種族的人談論種族議題
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across racial difference
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has been a part of my own
deepening learning journey.
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一直是我個人
深入學習旅程的一部分。
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Though it can be hard,
let me encourage you.
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雖然可能不容易,但讓我鼓勵大家。
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Having conversations about race is just
another hard thing we can learn to do.
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談論種族雖然很困難,
但我們能夠學會。
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I know this because I'm an educator.
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我會知道是因為我是教育工作者。
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I have been for over 20 years.
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我有至少二十年的經驗。
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I have supported teachers
and students around the country
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我支援全國各地的老師和學生
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to teach and learn in ways that honor
the dignity and worth of all people.
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用能夠尊重所有人尊嚴
和價值的方式來教學和學習。
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In this work, it is clear
that having conversations about race,
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在這份工作中,很顯然談論種族,
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particularly with our students,
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特別是和我們的學生談論,
並不是在享受,而是必要的。
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is not a luxury but a necessity.
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01:55
And there's no better place
to begin having these conversations
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要談論這些議題,最好的
起始點就是和我們的學生談。
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than with our students.
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01:59
It's not that adults can't learn
to have healthy conversations about race,
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並不是說成人無法
用健康的方式談論種族,
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but the minds of children
are more malleable.
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而是孩子的心智更有可塑性。
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This is why it's easier to learn
to do challenging things
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這就是為什麼若要比較容易
學會做有挑戰性的事,如:
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like play an instrument,
ride a bike, play a sport
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演奏樂器、騎腳踏車、
參與體育運動,
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or to become fluent
in a new language when we're young.
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或把新語言說到流利,
最好是在年輕的時期。
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If we teach children to be comfortable
talking about race from the beginning,
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如果我們打從一開始就教導
孩子很舒適自在地談論種族,
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they will likely have fewer falls
and missteps, less baggage,
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他們可能會遇到的失敗
和錯誤會比較少,
比較沒有包袱,需改掉的習慣較少,
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less to unlearn, and biased ideas
will be less likely to take hold.
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有偏見的觀念也比較不會根深蒂固。
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We can then imagine a future
where we can have productive dialogue
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那麼我們可以想見在未來,
我們就能跨越我們的差異,
展開有生產力的談話和討論。
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and discussions across our differences.
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02:35
Today, I'm going to share with you
four steps you can take
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今天我要分享四個步驟,
幫助大家去做有挑戰性的事,
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to do challenging things,
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特別是談論種族相關議題。
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particularly having
conversations about race:
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identify your challenge;
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辨識出挑戰是什麼;
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find your support network;
prepare; and begin.
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找出支持網;
準備;
然後開始做。
02:49
In my work with educators
around the country,
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我的工作會和全國各地的
教育工作者合作,
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when we explore what's challenging
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當我們去探究和學生談
種族議題時會遇到什麼挑戰,
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about having conversations
with students about race,
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they often say things like,
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他們通常會這樣說:
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"I don't have the resources
to have these conversations."
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「我沒有資源可以進行這類談話。」
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In fact, in EdWeek Research Center's
2020 special report,
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事實上,根據艾德維克
研究中心的 2020 年特別報告
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"Big Ideas for Confronting
Racism in Education,"
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《在教育中應對
種族主義的重要想法》,
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though 81 percent of the more
than 800 educators surveyed
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參與調查的八百多位
教育工作者中雖然有 81%
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identified as anti-racist educators,
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自認為是反種族主義的教育工作者,
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only 14 percent of them said that they had
both the training and the resources
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但卻只有 14% 說
自己有受過訓練且有資源,
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to have these conversations with students.
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能和學生討論這類議題。
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Though this statistic holds true,
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雖然這個統計數字是真的,
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there are several organizations
that provide free instructional resources
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但有數個組織提供免費的教學資源,
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that support lessons and dialogue
with students about race.
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協助教授與種族相關的課程
及與學生進行相關談話。
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So access to instructional resources
isn't the true challenge.
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所以取得教學資源
並不是真正的挑戰。
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If we're honest with ourselves,
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如果我們不要欺騙自己,
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it's easier to identify
external factors as challenges
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事實是,比較容易的做法
是將外部因子視為挑戰,
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than it is for us to accept responsibility
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難的是我們自己扛起責任,
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to influence what is
within our locus of control.
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在我們能控制的範圍內
去發揮影響力。
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When I go deeper with educators,
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當我與教育工作者
談得更深時,他們分享說,
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they share that the underlying
challenge is actually fear.
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藏在背後的挑戰其實是恐懼。
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They're afraid of saying the wrong thing
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他們怕說錯話,
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or doing harm when talking
with students about race.
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或在和學生談論種族時造成傷害。
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This is understandable,
especially considering the history
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這是可以理解的,
特別是考量到歷史
以及目前在這個國家
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and current manifestations
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04:03
of substantial racial harm
in this country.
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可以看到的大量種族傷害。
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But when we identify the true challenge,
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但當我們能承認真正的挑戰
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not the school or the lack
of resources, but fear,
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不是學校或缺乏資源,而是恐懼,
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is an essential first step.
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就是踏出了重要的第一步。
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Once we can name what's
at the heart of our challenge,
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一旦我們能說出挑戰的核心是什麼,
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we can begin to overcome it
with the next step:
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就可以開始用下一個步驟來克服它:
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finding our support network.
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找到支持網。
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Too often attempts to begin
having conversations
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通常,試圖開始和學生談論
種族議題之所以會失敗,
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with students about race fail
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because the fear
of making mistakes takes over.
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是因為害怕犯錯的恐懼
接管了主導權。
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When we try to do this work
on our own and we face a challenge,
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當我們試著靠自己去進行
這類談話,接著碰上了挑戰,
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say, for example, a student says something
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比如,學生說了某句話
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or asks a question that we're not prepared
to address or answer,
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或問了某個問題,而我們
尚未準備好處理或應答,
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in our minds, we can say things like,
"Oh, this is uncomfortable.
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我們在腦海中可能會說:
「喔,這好不舒服。
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I don't like being uncomfortable.
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我不喜歡不舒服的感覺。
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I don't think I want to do this anymore."
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我不想繼續做下去了。」
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It's important for us
to be surrounded by a community of people
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很重要的是,我們身邊要有一群人,
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who are committed to doing this work.
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一群承諾投入去做這項工作的人。
我的同事珍娜‧錢德勒—沃德
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My colleague Jenna Chandler-Ward,
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a white woman and cofounder
of “Teaching While White,”
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是白種女性,「以白人
身分教學」的共同創辦人;
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facilitates racial accountability spaces.
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她就在推動種族責任的空間。
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She regularly hears
from white teachers and students
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她常常聽到白人老師和學生說他們
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that they are afraid
to say the wrong thing.
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害怕說錯話。
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She shares with them
that she herself has remained silent
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她和他們分享,她自己曾經保持沉默
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to avoid conflict and for fear
of making things worse.
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以避免衝突,也是害怕
會讓狀況更糟糕。
珍娜說,如果我們不刻意去尋找
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Jenna says if we are not
intentionally seeking people
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to hold up a mirror
and hold us accountable,
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拿著鏡子反映我們
並要求我們負責的人,
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we'll end up surrounding ourselves
with people who affirm our beliefs
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那最後我們身邊只會留下
贊同我們信念的人,
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instead of challenging us
to see something more.
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而沒有能挑戰我們去看到更多的人。
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The more perspectives we have,
the broader our understanding will be,
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我們有越多觀點,
我們的理解也就會更廣闊,
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especially from people
who are at different points
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尤其是這些觀點最好能來自各種
不同種族身分發展階段的人。
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of racial identity development.
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If we are part of a group of people
who are doing this work together,
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如果我們和一群人一起做,
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we have a place to take that discomfort
and work through it.
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就能把這種不舒服感帶去那裡處理。
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It will help us to remember
that we're not alone
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它能協助我們記住我們並不孤單,
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and help us to feel less isolated.
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也讓我們不再覺得那麼孤立。
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Once we find our support network,
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一旦找到了支援網,
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we can prepare to have conversations
with students about race.
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就能開始準備和學生談論種族了。
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When the student
I mentioned earlier asked me
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我剛才提到有位學生問我為什麼
有黑人歷史月卻沒有白人的,
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why there was a Black History Month
and not a White History Month,
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05:59
I experienced a whole range of emotions:
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我在當下感受到各種情緒:
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confusion, hurt, anger.
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困惑、受傷、憤怒。
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Similarly, just as I experienced
a range of emotions,
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同樣的,就如同我會
感受到各種情緒,
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so will your students and so will you.
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你的學生也會,你也會。
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Expect it so you can be prepared.
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先有這樣的預期,你才能做好準備。
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For this work to be sustainable,
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要讓這項工作能永續,
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it is important that we prepare
to navigate these conversations
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很重要的是,我們要做好準備
在我們的學習群體中引導這些談話,
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in our learning communities.
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我們最好能刻意去設想
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We will want to intentionally envision
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06:25
how these conversations
will look and feel.
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這類談話看起來、
感覺起來是什麼樣子的。
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What emotions might the discussions
bring up for our students?
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這類討論可能會引發
我們學生的哪些情緒?
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What agreements
might we need to have in place
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我們需要先有哪些共識,
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before we have these discussions?
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再來進行這類討論?
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How will you respond to questions,
comments and resistance?
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你會如何回應問題、意見,和反抗?
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How will you repair
any harm that may be done?
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你要如何修復任何可能造成的傷害?
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You'll want to feel comfortable
responding in the moment
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若討論和你所希望的
不同,你會希望你能
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instead of reacting
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if the discussion doesn't go
the way you hoped.
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舒適地回應,而不是反擊。
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Once you prepare,
you'll be ready to begin.
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一旦你做好準備,你就可以開始了。
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Just as in starting anything new,
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就如同開始做任何新事物
一樣,可能會一團糟,
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it can be messy,
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and you'll make mistakes
because you're human.
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且你會犯錯,因為你是人。
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Making mistakes can feel scary,
especially because our work is so public.
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犯錯可能會感覺很可怕,
特別是因為我們的工作很公開。
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When we push through that fear, however,
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然而,當我們克服了這種恐懼,
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we can teach students
to have conversations about race
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我們就能教導學生如何去談論種族,
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and help them to unpack
their misperceptions.
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並協助他們理清自己的誤解。
07:11
In this work with teachers,
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在與老師合作的過程中,
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it feels like some people
are waiting for the perfect moment
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感覺好像有些人是在
等待完美的時機點,
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when a racially conscious
version of themselves will appear
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等具有種族意識版本的自己
出現,然後再來投入這項工作。
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before they begin engaging in this work.
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07:21
That version of yourself
has to be purposely developed and formed,
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那個版本的你不會自己出現,
必須要有目地性發展和形塑,
07:25
and that moment is now.
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而那個時機點就是現在。
07:28
When we engage in conversations
with our students about race,
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當我們能和學生談論種族議題,
07:31
we can help to expand their thinking
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我們就能協助擴展他們的思想,
07:33
and equip them with the language and tools
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提供他們需要的語言和工具,
07:36
that they need to see themselves clearly
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幫他們看清自己,
07:38
and to recognize and value the histories,
perspectives and experiences
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並認識和珍視和他們不同的人
所擁有的歷史、觀點,以及經驗。
07:44
of people who are unlike them.
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07:46
They'll be prepared to help us
build and sustain a truly just society
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他們會做好準備,在將來協助我們
建立和維護真正公正的社會,
07:50
where we all contribute
to the well-being of everyone
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那時,我們都能為人類大家庭
每個成員的福祉做出貢獻。
07:53
in our human family.
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07:55
Remember, having conversations about race
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切記,
談論種族雖然很困難,
但我們能夠學會,
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is just another hard thing
we can learn to do,
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08:00
one courageous step at a time.
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一次踏出勇敢的一步。
08:03
Thank you.
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謝謝。
08:04
(Applause)
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