The story of a parent's transition and a son's redemption | Paula Stone and Jonathan Williams

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Hannie Hong ๊ฒ€ํ† : Effie geumjin Lee
00:13
Paula Stone Williams: So, I was the CEO of a large, religious nonprofit,
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ํด๋ผ ์Šคํ†ค ์œŒ๋ฆฌ์—„์Šค: ํ•œ ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทœ๋ชจ์žˆ๋Š” ๋น„์˜๋ฆฌ ์ข…๊ต๋‹จ์ฒด์˜ CEO์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:17
spoke at some of the largest churches in America,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์†๊ผฝํžˆ๋Š” ๊ตํšŒ์—์„œ ์—ฐ์„ค์„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
00:22
was on television in 70 different markets,
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70๊ฐœ๋„ ๋„˜๋Š” ์ฑ„๋„์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
00:25
but more than anything else,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค
00:28
I just wanted to be a good parent.
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์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:31
I told all three of my children,
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์ „ ์„ธ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์ฃ ,
00:33
"When the going gets tough,
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"์‚ถ์ด ํž˜๋“ค๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์—
00:35
you have to choose the road less traveled,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ ํƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ธธ์€, ๋‚จ๋“ค์€ ์ž˜ ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
00:38
the narrow path."
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๋น„์ข์€ ๊ธธ์ด๋ž€๋‹ค."
00:39
I had no idea how difficult that was going to become.
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๊ทธ๋• ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ธ์ง€ ์ƒ์ƒ์กฐ์ฐจ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
00:45
I knew from the time I was three or four years of age
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์„ธ๋„ค ์‚ด ๋ฌด๋ ต์ด์—ˆ์„ ์ฆˆ์Œ,
00:47
that I was transgender.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํŠธ๋žœ์Šค์  ๋”๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:50
I knew if I came out, I would lose everything.
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์ปค๋ฐ์•„์›ƒ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ์žƒ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:54
But the call toward authenticity is sacred
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๋‚˜๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ปธ๊ณ 
00:58
and for the greater good,
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์˜ณ์€ ์„ ํƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:00
and it asks you to trust that the truth not only sets you free,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฏฟ์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋งŒ ์ž์œ ๋กœ์›Œ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
01:04
it will set everyone free.
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๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
I decided to stake my life on it.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ œ ์‚ถ์„ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋ฐ”์ณ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋‹ค์งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:10
So I came out.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ปค๋ฐ์•„์›ƒ์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
01:12
Turns out, if you spend most of your life
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋žœ์‹œ๊ฐ„
01:15
working in the conservative religious world,
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์•„์ฃผ ๋ณด์ˆ˜์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ข…๊ต์ ์ธ ๊ณณ์— ๋ชธ๋‹ด์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋ผ๋ฉด
01:17
coming out as transgender is not all that great for your career.
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ํŠธ๋žœ์Šค์  ๋”๋กœ ์ปค๋ฐ์•„์›ƒํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑด ์ปค๋ฆฌ์–ด์— ์น˜๋ช…ํƒ€์ผ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ตฌ๋‚˜.
01:21
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:24
Who knew?
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•˜๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
01:25
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:28
Within seven days, I lost every single one of my jobs.
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ง์—…์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋„ ๋‚จ๊น€์—†์ด ๋ชฝ๋•… ์žƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:33
My family was supportive but struggling.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•ด์คฌ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ํž˜๋“  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:36
Most of my friends and coworkers had rejected me;
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋Œ€๋‹ค์ˆ˜๋Š” ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ ˆํ–ˆ๊ณ 
01:39
the rest were confused.
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๋‚จ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
01:41
One friend said, "You really messed with me."
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ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌ๋”๋ผ๊ตฌ์š”, "๋„ˆ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์†์ƒํ•ด ์ฃฝ๊ฒ ์–ด."
01:45
I said, "Yeah, well, get in line."
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๋ฒˆํ˜ธํ‘œ ๋ฝ‘๊ณ  ์ค„ ์„œ์„ธ์š”."
01:48
They said, "You were my only example of an alpha male who was gentle."
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"์•ŒํŒŒ๋ฉ”์ผ ์ค‘์— ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ์ธ๊ฐ„๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋„ˆ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด์  ..."
01:53
And I thought, "Oh. You're right."
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๊ทธ ๋ง์— ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋งž์•„.
01:57
I was an alpha male.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•ŒํŒŒ๋ฉ”์ผ์ด์—ˆ์ง€.
01:59
And I was gentle.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚œ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด.
02:01
And if it was hard for him,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ๋„ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํž˜๊ฒจ์› ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
02:04
how much more difficult was it for my own son?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์‚ถ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ๋ฒ„๊ฒ๊ณ  ํž˜๋“ค๊นŒ?
02:09
Jonathan Williams: Estrangement was not an option.
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์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ ์œŒ๋ฆฌ์—„์Šค: ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ๋ง๊ฐ€์ง€๊ธฐ ๋งˆ๋ จ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
02:11
It was Father's Day and my girls brought me craft beer
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๋‚ ์— ์ €๋Š” ๋”ธ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ˆ˜์ œ๋งฅ์ฃผ์™€,
02:14
and a homemade jar of pickles, which, in my estimation,
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์ง์ ‘ ๋‹ด๊ทผ ํ”ผํด ํ•œ ๋ณ‘์„ ์„ ๋ฌผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๋‚  ์„ ๋ฌผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ฐธ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์„ ํƒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:17
is the perfect Father's Day gift.
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02:19
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:20
But the question remained:
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜๋ฌธ์€ ๊ณ„์† ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:22
Do I call my own father?
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋‚˜?
02:24
To call him, and I continue down this spiral of denial,
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์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ๊ฒŒ๋˜๋ฉด ์ „ ๋Š์ž„์—†๋Š” ๋ถ€์ •์˜ ๊ณ„๋‹จ์„ ๊ฑท๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜€์ฃ .
02:26
pretending that my dad was still --
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ €์˜...
02:28
well, my dad.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋œ ๋ฏฟ์Œ์œผ๋กœ์š”.
02:31
To not call was to acknowledge that everything had changed.
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์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜€์ฃ .
02:35
It meant that I was in for years of pain and mourning and sadness,
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์ „ ์ˆ˜๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฌด์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์Šฌํ””๊ณผ ๊ณ ํ†ต๊ณผ ๊ดด๋กœ์›€ ์†์„ ํ—ค๋งธ์ง€๋งŒ,
02:40
but ultimately, hope for reconciliation.
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๊ทธ ๋์—๋Š” ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ํ™”ํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ํฌ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:44
There's no playbook for when one's father of 30 plus years decides to transition
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๊ทธ ์–ด๋–ค ๋™ํ™”์ฑ…์—๋„, 30๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์•„๋น ์˜€๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
02:48
to the female gender.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ •์ฒดํ™”ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์–˜๊ธด ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:50
But my dad did teach me one thing.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ œ๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:52
He said the road to redemption always comes from choosing the narrow path.
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๋น„์ข๊ณ  ํ—˜๋‚œํ•œ ๊ธธ์ด ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ตฌ์›์œผ๋กœ ํ–ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„์š”.
02:56
And so I decided not to call that day,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๊ทธ ๋‚  ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:58
and a few months later, Paula flew out and met me at a hotel in New York,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋’ค, ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๋‰ด์š•์˜ ์–ด๋Š ํ˜ธํ…”์—์„œ
03:02
my wife and I.
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์ €์™€ ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:04
I knocked on the door, and this woman answered.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ ธ๊ณ , ์•ˆ์—์„  ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
03:06
It definitely wasn't my dad.
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๋ถ„๋ช… ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๋˜ ์•„๋น ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:09
"It's good to see you," she said.
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"๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์˜๊ตฌ๋‚˜," ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
03:11
It didn't sound like my dad, either.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๋˜ ์•„๋น ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:14
We went to lunch, and the waiter came to take our order.
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๋‹ค๊ฐ™์ด ์ ์‹ฌ์„ ๋จน์œผ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ„ ์‹๋‹น์—์„œ ์›จ์ดํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋Ÿฌ ์™€์„œ๋Š”,
"์ˆ™๋…€๋ถ„ ๋จผ์ € ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?" ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์ฃ ,
03:17
He said, "Let's start with the ladies,"
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์ €ํฌ ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์— ์—ฌ์ž๋ผ๊ณค ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„,
03:18
but there was only one lady at the table and it was my wife,
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์˜ค ์„ธ์ƒ์—, ์‹ค์€ ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:21
and -- oh my God, there are two women at the table.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์–‘๋ฐฐ์ถ”๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑธ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ•˜์…จ๊ณ ,
03:24
And my dad ordered something like lettuce,
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03:26
and I was like, I have fries on my plate.
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์ œ ์ ‘์‹œ์—” ๊ฐ์žํŠ€๊น€์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:28
Did my dad like fries? I don't remember.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ์žํŠ€๊น€์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์…จ๋˜๊ฐ€? ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:31
I think he liked them.
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์ œ ๊ธฐ์–ต์—” ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์…จ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ,
03:33
But she wasn't eating them.
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๋“œ์‹œ์ง€ ์•Š๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
03:37
Here's this woman who knew everything about me,
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๋‚ด ์•ž์˜ ์—ฌ์ž๋Š” ๋‚˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
03:39
and I knew nothing about her.
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์ „ ์•„๋ฌด ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:42
I don't even remember saying goodbye.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ—ค์–ด์งˆ ๋•Œ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋ ธ๋Š”์ง€์กฐ์ฐจ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:46
PSW: All I could think about that day
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ํด๋ผ: ๊ทธ ๋‚ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณค
03:48
was that it was late September in New York,
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10์›” ๋ง์˜ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚ , ๋‰ด์š•์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
03:50
and I was wearing white jeans.
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์ „ ํ•˜์–€ ๋ฐ”์ง€๋ฅผ ์ž…์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:53
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
03:54
You don't wear white after Labor Day in New York.
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๋‰ด์š•์—์„  ๋…ธ๋™์ ˆ์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด ํฐ ๋ฐ”์ง€๋ฅผ ์ž…์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
03:58
There was a knock at the door,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ ธ๊ณ ,
04:00
and all I could think about was, here I stand in my wrong jeans.
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๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ์ œ ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์—” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”์ง€๋ฅผ ์ž˜๋ชป ์ž…์—ˆ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:03
And then I saw these big, blue eyes I love so much,
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๊ทธ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํฌ๊ณ  ํŒŒ๋ž€ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋งˆ์ฃผ์ณค๊ณ 
04:06
and they were staring back at me in disbelief.
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๊ทธ ๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ์ „ ์ €์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ถˆ์‹ ์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
And I thought, "Oh, this is not going to be easy."
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์ •๋ง ์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
04:13
When one person in a family transitions,
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๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์„ฑ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉด,
04:16
the entire family transitions whether they want to or not.
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๋‚จ์€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค๋„ ์›ํ•˜๋“  ์›์น˜์•Š๋“  ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฒช๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:21
Now, for those on the fringes it was easy.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ .
04:23
The liberals said, "Oh, wonderful!
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์ง„๋ณด์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ "์˜ค, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ์ด์—์š”!
04:25
She's found her truth, how delightful."
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ฐพ์•˜๋‹ค๋‹ˆ, ์ด๋ณด๋‹ค ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ตฌ์š”" ํ•˜๊ณ ,
04:27
And the conservatives said, "That's messed up, I'm out of here."
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๋ณด์ˆ˜ํŒŒ๋“ค์€ "์™„์ „ ์—‰๋ง์ง„์ฐฝ์ด๋„ค, ๋‚œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋น ์ง€๋ จ๋‹ค" ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
04:30
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
04:32
But for my family, neither extreme was going to work.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ทน๋‹จ์ ์ธ ๋ง๋“ค์€ ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ์†Œ์šฉ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
04:36
Their anger, their hurt,
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๋ถ„๋…ธ, ์ƒ์ฒ˜,
04:39
their love and loyalty --
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘๊ณผ ๋ฏฟ์Œ...
04:41
all of it had to be brought on to the road of trials.
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์‹œ๋ จ์˜ ๊ธธ ์œ„์—์„  ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฐ์ •๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค ๋งˆ์ฃผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
04:47
JW: Was it all a lie?
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์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ: ๋‹ค ๊ฑฐ์ง“์ด์—ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
04:48
Every game of catch in the front yard, the Mets season tickets --
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์•ž๋งˆ๋‹น์—์„œ ์บ์น˜๋ณผ ํ•  ๋•Œ, ์•ผ๊ตฌ ์‹œ์ฆŒ์ด๋ฉด ๋ฉ”์ธ  ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ...
04:52
was that with my dad or was that with her?
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๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•œ ๊ฑด ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜€์„๊นŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋…€์˜€๋˜ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ?
04:56
I remember this one time,
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€,
04:58
my dad took me on a bike ride through Heckscher Park
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ €๋ฅผ ์ž์ „๊ฑฐ์— ํƒœ์šฐ๊ณ  ํ—ฅ์…”๊ณต์›์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
05:00
to teach me about sex.
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์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:02
He explained the parts of the body that I now know he wished weren't hers.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•œ ์‹ ์ฒด๋ถ€์œ„ ์ค‘์—์„ , ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
05:08
Had my father ever even existed?
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ณผ์—ฐ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๊ธด ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
05:11
Now, grief --
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ์šธ์ด ์ฐพ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
grief is without rules.
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์šฐ์šธ์€ ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ๊ทœ์น™๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:15
Grief borrows your car without asking,
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์šฐ์šธ์€ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ํ—ˆ๋ฝ๋„ ์—†์ด ๋‚ด ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋นŒ๋ ค๊ฐ€์„œ๋Š”
05:17
wrecks it
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๋ฐ•์‚ด์„ ๋‚ด๋†“๊ณ 
05:18
and then doesn't apologize.
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์‚ฌ๊ณผ์กฐ์ฐจ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ .
05:20
And I was a wreck.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ฐ•์‚ด๋‚œ ์ฐจ์˜€์–ด์š”.
์ •๋ง ์‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:22
This was heavy.
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05:23
I retreated into myself.
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์ €๋Š” ์ ์  ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ๋งŒ ํŒŒ๊ณ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”์ฃ .
05:24
I was angry.
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ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ๊ณ ,
05:25
I felt betrayed.
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๋ฐฐ์‹ ๋‹นํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:27
And I guess I should have known
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๋•Œ ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ˜์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:29
by the fact that you encouraged me to be a Mets fan
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ฉง์ธ  ํŒฌ์ด ๋˜๋„๋ก ํ•œ ๊ฑด
05:31
that you were preparing me for life's really big disappointments.
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์‹ค๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ ํˆฌ์„ฑ์ด์ธ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค๋Š” ์˜๋„์˜€๋‹จ ๊ฑธ์š”.
05:34
(Laughter)
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š”
05:35
That's true.
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
05:37
And yet, there were the games of catch,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋™์‹œ์—, ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ €์™€ ์บ์น˜๋ณผ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
05:39
and there were the season tickets
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์‹œ์ฆŒ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์•ผ๊ตฌ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ณ ,
05:41
and bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches every Saturday
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ํ† ์š”์ผ์ด ๋˜๋ฉด ๋ฒ ์ด์ปจ ์—๊ทธ ์น˜์ฆˆ ์ƒŒ๋“œ์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ
05:43
from the best bagel place on Long Island.
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๋กฑ ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ฒ ์ด๊ธ€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์—์„œ ์–ด๊น€์—†์ด ์‚ฌ๋‹ค์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:45
My father lived this life he didn't want to live,
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์›ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์‚ถ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช… ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
05:48
but he lived it so that I could have a dad.
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋น ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์…จ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์„ ํ•ด๋‚ด์‹  ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
05:52
I stopped wondering if my dad had ever existed.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ €์˜ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋งŒ ์˜์‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:55
He had existed -- willfully, consciously, intentionally --
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ผ์˜จ ์ง€๋‚œ๋‚ ๋“ค์˜ ๋งค ์ˆœ๊ฐ„
06:01
each and every day of my growing up.
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์˜จ ํž˜์„ ๋‹คํ•ด์„œ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€ํ‚ค์‹  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:03
For that, I was thankful.
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์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
06:06
Paula's body was hers now and her transformation was complete,
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ์™„์„ฑ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:10
but my transformation was just beginning.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €์˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋ง‰ ์‹œ์ž‘๋œ ์…ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:12
I had another trial, another journey, another choice to heed my father's advice
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๋ง์„ ๊ฐ€์Šด์— ์ƒˆ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€์•ผํ•  ๊ธธ, ํ•ด์•ผํ•  ์„ ํƒ์ด ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:16
and continue down that narrow path.
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๋น„์ข์€ ๊ธธ๋กœ์˜ ์—ฌ์ •์ด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
06:21
PSW: So most days I believe there is a God.
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ํด๋ผ: ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด์•„์˜ค๋ฉฐ, ์ „ ๋Š˜ ์‹ ์ด ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
Tuesdays and Thursdays can be tough,
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ํ™”์š”์ผ๊ณผ ๋ชฉ์š”์ผ์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ํž˜๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ 
06:26
and any day that you're on the New Jersey Turnpike.
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๋‰ด์ €์ง€ ํ„ดํŒŒ์ดํฌ์˜ ๊ตํ†ต์ฒด์ฆ์„ ๊ฒฌ๋ŽŒ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์Šจ ์š”์ผ์ด ๋๋“  ํž˜๋“ค๊ฒ ์ฃ .
06:29
I mean, really, you know?
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์•„์‹œ์ž–์•„์š”, ๊ทธ์ตธ?
06:30
(Laughter)
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06:31
It's hard to believe in God when your soul is in the wrong body.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜์˜ ์˜ํ˜ผ์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์œก์ฒด์— ๋“ค์–ด์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฏฟ์Œ๋„ ํ”๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:35
Still, somehow I ended up in ministry.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ชฉํšŒ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
06:38
When I lost all my jobs, it was nothing personal.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง์—…์„ ๋ชฝ๋•… ์žƒ์€ ๊ฑด ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์›ํ•œ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐ์ •๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
It's what religious tribes do.
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์ข…๊ต๋ฅผ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๋กœ ๋ฌถ์ธ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด์— ์˜ํ•ด์„œ์˜€์ฃ .
06:43
They believe an enemy is necessary for the tribe to survive,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„  ๊ณตํ†ต์˜ ์ ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:47
so where no enemy exists,
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์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ๋งˆ๋•…ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†์œผ๋ฉด,
06:49
they create one.
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๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:51
Right now, sexual minorities are the enemy;
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์ด ์‹œ๋Œ€์—๋Š” ์„ฑ์†Œ์ˆ˜์ž๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ ์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:53
my departure was swift and sure.
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ ์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ™•์‹คํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ตํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:56
I was surprised when my son left his job teaching in West Philadelphia
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๋‹น์‹œ ์•„๋“ค์€ ํ•„๋ผ๋ธํ”ผ์•„ ์„œ๋ถ€์—์„œ ๊ต์œก์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์•„๋“ค์ด
07:01
to go into the ministry.
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๋ชฉ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋’€๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์„๋• ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:03
I did not see that one coming.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณค ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:06
And now I wondered:
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ด์ œ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ด์กŒ์ฃ ,
07:08
What would he do?
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์•„๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋‚˜?
07:10
I didn't have to wait that long to find an answer.
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๋‹ต์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:13
Six months after that first visit,
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์•„๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋งŒ๋‚จ์—์„œ 6๊ฐœ์›”์ด ์ง€๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ,
07:16
he invited me back to New York.
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์•„๋“ค์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋‰ด์š•์œผ๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
07:19
JW: The designers of the Brooklyn Bridge,
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์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ: ๋ธŒ๋ฃจํด๋ฆฐ ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋ฅผ ์„ค๊ณ„ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€,
07:21
they had their share of bad luck.
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๊ฐ์ž์—๊ฒŒ ํ• ๋‹น๋œ ๋ถˆ์šด์˜ ๋ชซ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:23
John Roebling, he died shortly after the bridge's construction began.
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์กด ๋กœ๋ธ”๋ง, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณต์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฐฉ์ˆ˜๋œ์ง€ ์–ผ๋งˆ ์ง€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„ ์ƒ์„ ๋งˆ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:26
His son Washington took over,
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๊ทธ์˜ ์•„๋“ค์ธ ์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด์ด ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋Œ€์‹  ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
07:28
but he suffered from decompression sickness.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž ์ˆ˜๋ณ‘์— ์‹œ๋‹ฌ๋ ธ์ฃ .
07:30
His wife Emily became the surrogate executive engineer
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ์˜ ์•„๋‚ด์ธ ์—๋ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋Œ€์‹ ํ•ด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๊ฐ„๋ถ€๋กœ ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด,
07:33
who oversaw the bridge's completion.
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๊ณต์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์™„๊ณต์‹œ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:36
Father and son,
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ์•„๋“ค,
07:37
John and Washington,
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์กด๊ณผ ์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด์ด
07:39
done in by their work.
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ํ•ฉ์‹ฌํ•ด์„œ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ธ ๊ฑธ์ž‘์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:41
It was this sunny day in May
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์•„๋งˆ ์ง€๊ธˆ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง‘์•˜๋˜ 5์›”์˜ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚ ์—
07:43
and my father and I sat in the shadow of that Brooklyn Bridge.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ์ €๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ฃจํด๋ฆฐ ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•„๋ž˜์— ์•‰์•„
07:47
Would our lives follow the Roeblings' --
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๋กœ๋ธ”๋ง ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
07:49
father and son, done in by our work?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€์ž๋งŒ์˜ ๊ฑธ์ž‘์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?
07:52
My father thought that her friends in church
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๊ตํšŒ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ
07:55
would carry her through her transition,
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๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ณ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:57
and they did not.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:59
They ditched her and they clung to me.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณธ์ฒด๋งŒ์ฒดํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ง‘์ฐฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:01
I was the pastor of a new church in Brooklyn.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ฃจํด๋ฆฐ์˜ ํ•œ ๊ตํšŒ์˜ ๋ชฉํšŒ์ž์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ
08:03
This wonderful group of forward-thinking people,
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๊ตํšŒ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ง„๋ณด์  ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ค„ ์•„๋Š” ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
08:06
and yet, we were financially tied to really conservative churches.
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๋™์‹œ์— ๋ชน์‹œ ๋ณด์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ๊ตํšŒ์— ์žฌ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌถ์—ฌ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:10
To hold space for Paula meant jeopardizing our own church's livelihood.
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์ „ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๊ตํšŒ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํƒœ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํŒ๋‹จํ–ˆ๊ธฐ์—,
08:15
I sort of straddled the line between these warring worlds.
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์ด ์ „์Ÿ๊ฐ™์€ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๊ฐ€๋กœ์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ์„ ์„ ๊ธ‹๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
So I said to my dad,
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์ €๋Š” ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:20
"Dad, I still live and work in your old world.
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"์•„๋ฒ„์ง€, ์ €๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ๊ตฌ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋ชธ๋‹ด๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
08:22
Is it possible that you might extend an olive branch for my sake?"
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ €๋ฅผ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ๊ฐ€์—พ๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์•ˆ๋˜๋‚˜์š”?"
08:27
And her response was impassioned.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ ๊ฐ„์ ˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:32
You said to me, "Do you have any idea what it feels like
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"๋„ˆ๋Š” ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ์ง์ž‘์ด๋ผ๋„ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ?
08:35
to finally show yourself to your true friends
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์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง„์งœ ๋‚˜์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์คฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋กœ
08:38
and have them completely reject you?
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐ์ œ๋˜๋Š” ์ด ๋Š๋‚Œ์„?
08:40
To ask you to live a lie?
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๊ฑฐ์ง“๋œ ๋ชจ์Šต์œผ๋กœ ์‚ด์•„๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€ํƒ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์„?
08:42
Do you know what that feels like?"
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๋„ˆ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๋Š” ์ง€ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ?"
08:45
And I didn't know what that felt like.
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์ „ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:48
But I knew I had a decision to make.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค์•ผํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
08:51
It was the decision to continue down that narrow path through nights,
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๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์บ„์บ„ํ•œ ์–ด๋‘ ์†์—์„œ ๋น„์ข์€ ๊ธธ์„ ๊ฑท๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:55
but for the first time,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ,
08:57
I caught a glimpse of light.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ธธ์˜ ๋์—์„œ ๋ฐ˜์ง์ด๋Š” ๋น›์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:59
I cannot ask my father to be anything other than her true self.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง„์‹ค๋œ ์กด์žฌ๋กœ ๋‚จ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋งŒ์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:06
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
09:12
PSW: So as we sat by the river that day,
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ํด๋ผ: ๊ทธ๋‚  ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ•๊ฐ€์— ์•‰์•„
09:15
Jonathan talked about his pain, his suffering, his grief, his confusion.
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์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ์ด ์ž์‹ ์ด ํ—ค์ณ์˜จ ๊ณ ํ†ต๊ณผ ์šฐ์šธ, ํ˜ผ๋ž€์„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
He brought all of himself to that conversation,
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์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ์€ ๊ทธ๋™์•ˆ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ„ธ์–ด๋†“์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
09:26
and it tore at me
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์ œ ๋งˆ์Œ์€ ๊ฐˆ๊ธฐ๊ฐˆ๊ธฐ ์ฐข์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:31
to be the cause of such pain.
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์•„๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒŒ ๊ผญ ์ €์˜ ํƒ“ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ์š”.
09:36
But as he talked, there was something redemptive going on,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ ์•„๋“ค์˜ ๋ง์—์„œ ๊ตฌ์›์˜ ๋น›์ด ๋ฐ˜์ง์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:40
full of tension but possibility,
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๊ธด์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ํ•œ ์™€์ค‘์—๋„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋น›์ด
09:43
grounded in that narrow path.
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๋น„์ข์€ ๊ธธ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ํฌ๋ฏธํ•œ ๋น›์„ ๋ฟœ์–ด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
09:47
He said, "This is always going to be hard.
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์•„๋“ค์€ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, "ํž˜๋“ค ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
09:51
It always will be.
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ณ„์† ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
09:52
But Dad,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€,
09:54
I love you."
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด์š”."
09:56
My son is the best of me and more.
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์•„๋“ค์€ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜, ์•„๋‹ˆ ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์กด์žฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:00
He's bold and strong,
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๋‹ด๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ•์ธํ•˜๋ฉฐ,
10:03
sensitive and thoughtful.
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์„ฌ์„ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊นŠ์€...
10:06
I guess you could say,
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
10:10
he's an alpha male who's gentle.
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์ œ ์•„๋“ค์€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ์•ŒํŒŒ๋ฉ”์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
10:14
JW: It was time for my daughters to meet their -- Paula.
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์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ: ์ „ ๋”ธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ, ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ "ํด๋ผ"๋ฅผ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ด์ค„ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:18
We went back to my apartment,
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•„ํŒŒํŠธ์— ๊ฐ”๊ณ ,
10:19
and my daughters were coloring at the dining room table,
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์ œ ๋”ธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ํƒ์— ์•‰์•„ ์ƒ‰์น ๊ณต๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:22
and there was this awkward silence.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ •์ ๋งŒ์ด ํ˜๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
And finally, my youngest asked a single, confident question.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด, ์ €์˜ ๋ง‰๋‚ด๋”ธ์€ ๋‹น๋‹นํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์™ธ๋งˆ๋”” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋˜์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:28
"So, Grandpa, do you have a penis?"
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"๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋„ ๊ณ ์ถ” ์žˆ์–ด์š”?"
10:31
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
10:34
And after the tension abated and the laughter subsided,
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๊ทธ ๋ง๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ธด์žฅ์ด ํ’€๋ ค์„œ ์›ƒ์Œ์„ ํ„ฐ๋œจ๋ ธ๊ณ 
10:36
my girls took their grandpa back into their room
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๋”ธ๋“ค์€ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ ์ž๊ธฐ๋“ค ๋ฐฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€
10:39
and showed her their new toys,
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์ƒˆ๋กœ ์‚ฐ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ ,
10:41
and they christened her with a new name.
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ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
They called her "GrandPaula."
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"ํ• ํด๋ผ"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
10:45
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
10:49
PSW: So this past summer, I had all five of my granddaughters at my home,
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ํด๋ผ: ์ง€๋‚œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„, ์ €๋Š” 5๋ช…์˜ ์†๋…€๋“ค์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:53
there in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains.
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๋กํ‚ค์‚ฐ๋งฅ์˜ ์ž‘์€ ์–ธ๋•์œผ๋กœ์š”.
10:56
We went swimming in the cool waters of the river
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์ฐจ๊ฐ€์šด ๊ฐ•๋ฌผ์†์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์˜๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”,
10:58
that flows through our little town.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„ ์‚ฌ์ด๋กœ ํ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฐ•์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
11:00
And one day, one of Jonathan's girls said to me,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋˜ ์–ด๋Š๋‚ , ์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ์˜ ๋”ธ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
11:02
"GrandPaula, can we go tubing on the river?"
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"ํ• ํด๋ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ•์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ํŠœ๋ธŒํƒ€๊ณ  ๋†€๊นŒ์š”?"
11:06
And I said, "Well, you know,
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์ €๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, "๊ธ€์Ž„, ์•„๊ฐ€์•ผ,
11:07
I'd really wait until your daddy gets here for that.
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์•„๋น ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค์‹ค ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š”๊ฒŒ ๋” ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ตฌ๋‚˜.
11:10
That feels to me like that ought to be his call."
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์•„๋น ๊ฐ€ ํ—ˆ๋ฝํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”๊ฒŒ ๋งž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ฑฐ๋“ .
11:12
And she said, "Oh, but GrandPaula,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ž ์†๋…€๋Š” "์•„์ด, ํ• ํด๋ผ,
11:16
he'll exactly make the same decision you would.
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์•„๋น ๋Š” ํ• ํด๋ผ์™€ ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ตฌ์š”.
11:19
He's a lot like you, you know."
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์•„๋น ๋Š” ๊ผญ ํ• ํด๋ผ๊ฐ™์•„์š”, ์•„์‹œ์ž–์•„์š”."
11:21
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
11:23
And I thought, yeah, he is a lot like me,
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์ „ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋งž์•„, ์•„๋“ค์€ ๊ผญ ๋‚˜๊ฐ™์ง€.
11:28
both of us determined to find the narrow path
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋น„์ข์€ ๊ธธ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•ด
11:31
and follow it through the long, dark night,
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๊ธฐ๋‚˜๊ธด ์–ด๋‘ ์†์„ ํ—ค๋งค๊ณ 
11:35
all the way to the light of dawn.
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๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด ์ƒˆ๋ฒฝ์˜ ๋น›์„ ๋งˆ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š”...
11:39
JW: Have you ever noticed that a child who is secure,
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์กฐ๋‚˜๋‹จ: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹  ์  ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
11:42
a child who knows love,
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์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ™•์‹ ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ๋ฒ ํ’€ ์ค„ ์•Œ๊ณ ,
11:43
that child will dance?
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์ถค์„ ์ถ”๋Š” ์•„์ด๋ฅผ์š”.
11:45
They wave their arms,
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๊ทธ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ํž˜์ฐจ๊ฒŒ ์†์„ ํ”๋“ค๊ณ 
11:47
they kick their legs to music that only they can hear.
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๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Œ์•…์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์‹ ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์„ ๊ตฌ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
It's the music of a child who is safe and unharmed
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๊ทธ ์Œ์•…์€, ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ
11:54
and wholly loved.
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์˜จ์ „ํžˆ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘๋ฐ›๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด์˜ ์Œ์•…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:57
The day after my children met their GrandPaula,
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์ €์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ํ• ํด๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚ ,
11:59
she took them to go get doughnuts,
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋„๋„›์„ ์‚ฌ์ฃผ์…จ์ฃ .
12:01
and I watched as they walked down the street,
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ธธ์„ ๊ฑธ์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š”๋ฐ,
12:03
and my girls took my father's arms,
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์ œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ํŒ”์„ ๊ผญ ์žก๊ณ 
12:05
and they danced.
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์ถค์„ ์ถ”๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
12:07
My father's arms swung wildly.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ํŒ”์ด ์„ธ์ฐจ๊ฒŒ ํ”๋“ค๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
12:11
You bought them one too many doughnuts, because you always do --
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๋„๋„›์„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์ฃผ์‹  ๊ฑฐ์—์š”, ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์ง€๋งŒ.
12:14
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
12:15
I watched my older daughter take a bite of her doughnut,
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ํฐ ๋”ธ์ด ๋„๋„› ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ฒ ์–ด ๋ฌด๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณด๋Š”๋ฐ,
12:17
and she unleashed two jumps and a twirl.
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์•„์ด๋Š” ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์„ ํŒ”์งํŒ”์ง ๋›ฐ๊ณ ์„œ ๋น™๊ทธ๋ฅด๋ฅด ๋Œ๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
12:20
It was perfect.
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์™„๋ฒฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:22
That narrow path,
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๋น„์ข์€ ๊ธธ,
12:24
it always has its share of burdens and challenges.
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๊ทธ ๊ธธ์—” ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ์ž๊ฐ€ ์งŠ์–ด์ ธ์•ผํ•  ๋„์ „์˜ ๋ชซ์ด ์กด์žฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:27
But I was certain that we were going to see this through to redemption.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ ๊ธธ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ตฌ์›์„ ์–ป์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ž€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:32
I looked at my dad
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋ฉฐ
12:33
and I looked at my girls who were dancing and eating their doughnuts,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„๋„›์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ์ถค์ถ”๋Š” ๋”ธ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋ฉฐ
12:37
and I said aloud to no one in particular,
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์ €๋Š” ํ˜ผ์žฃ๋ง๋กœ์„œ
12:40
I said, "This ...
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"์ด๊ฒƒ์ด...
12:42
this is how God sees my dad."
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋‹˜์ด ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ตฌ๋‚˜."
12:46
My father was literally born again.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋‚  ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜์‹  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:49
And by choosing the narrow path of redemption,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ตฌ์›์„ ํ–ฅํ•œ ๋น„์ข์€ ๊ธธ์„ ํƒํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ,
12:52
I was born again with her.
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์ € ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:54
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:55
(Applause and cheers)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜์™€ ํ™˜ํ˜ธ)
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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