The Massive Machines Removing Carbon from Earth's Atmosphere | Jan Wurzbacher | TED

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The Massive Machines Removing Carbon from Earth's Atmosphere | Jan Wurzbacher | TED

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Well today I'm really glad to get to share something with you
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that I've been working on for the past 15 years.
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But more importantly,
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something that could become the first specimen
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of an entire new industry that we might find all around the planet
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over the next decades.
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Think of it as something like the very first smartphone.
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Still quite clumsy and quite expensive, but of transformative technology.
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Smartphones have changed the way how we communicate.
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This, I hope,
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could change the way we deal with global warming.
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This is Orca.
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This is the first worldwide commercial direct air capture and storage plant.
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It is in Iceland,
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and it is an industrial plant that extracts CO2 out of ambient air.
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We have operated now for more than one year.
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It costs more than 10 million dollars to build Orca.
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And its modules,
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those eight boxes that we call CO2 collectors,
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they are designed to extract a bit more than 10 tons of carbon dioxide
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from the air every day.
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It sounds quite expensive.
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However, when thinking about cost, we should keep in mind one thing.
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There is one thing that we cannot buy,
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and that is time.
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And we need to be quite fast here.
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So that is why
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Orca is not there to demonstrate costs.
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Orca is there to show in the field, out there, in the weather,
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that the plant is operating, and Orca is working.
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So the next step for us at Climeworks
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and for all the other companies in the field
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is now going forward, improving the technology,
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scaling it up from tens to hundreds to millions of tons capacity.
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And as we go ahead and we scale it up,
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with every new plant going online,
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we'll have efficiencies going up and we'll have costs going down.
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Now, how does it work?
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In the case of Orca,
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we have fans mounted to the CO2 collectors that draw air through them.
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Inside there is a filter material that we call sorbent,
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a highly porous material.
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And as the air pulls through it,
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the CO2 is bound at the surface of this material.
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Think of it as a sponge that sucks up water in its pores.
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We do that for a certain time until the material is filled with used CO2,
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it is saturated.
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And we close the modules,
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we heat them up to around 100 degrees Celsius,
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and we can extract concentrated CO2 from them.
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The good thing is that the main energy input
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that we need for that process is low temperature heat
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at around 100 degrees Celsius.
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And it can entirely be powered by renewable energy.
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Now that looks quite easy at first glance, right?
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And indeed, the process behind that is quite simple.
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However, when it comes to implementing that into reality
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in the field out there
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with the purpose of having a plant that is constantly operating,
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24/7, reliably,
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then it becomes quite challenging.
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Let me give you two examples why it is a challenge
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to capture and remove CO2 from the air.
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First of all,
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there is not a lot of CO2 in the air.
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We're currently at around 420 ppm.
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That means one molecule out of 2,500 molecules in the air around us
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is CO2.
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That's not a lot.
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And that means to extract only one ton of CO2 from the air,
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we need to filter around two million cubic meters of air.
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That's about 800 Olympic swimming pools.
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And there's another way of picturing that, which I personally find quite puzzling.
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Imagine one of these filters
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with an inlet area of one meter by one meter.
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And the amount of air,
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like, think of it as a block of air
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that you have to push through that filter inlet
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to take just one ton of CO2 out of the air,
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is 2,000 kilometers long.
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Another example why this is a challenge
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is that it is not so easy to find good,
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actually, the best sorbent materials,
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which are both high-performing
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and which can prevail outside there in the field with a long life.
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Now, in this next picture, you see Christoph and myself,
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cofounders of Climeworks,
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in the very early days of Climeworks, working on that.
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The very first sorbents, we produced them with our own hands,
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such as you would do your laundry if you didn't have a washing machine.
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We set some sorbents on fire,
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and we produced hundreds of samples in the past 10 years.
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Looking forward,
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thousands of more will come, very likely.
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Now, this is one way of doing it.
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We are doing that in our company, but many others are doing it.
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There are companies out there, start-ups,
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more established companies and researchers and scientists.
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And that is a good thing
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because the challenge ahead of us is immense.
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Now let's step back and look at the big picture.
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So where does this kind of technology fit into our overall fight
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against climate change?
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And it's important that first and foremost,
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the most important thing we need to do is, and will always stay,
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the drastic reduction of emissions of greenhouse gases.
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Without that,
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we will have no chance of ever meeting any of our climate goals.
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Then in a second step,
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it will be important that we can all ramp up the capacity
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of extracting and removing CO2 from the atmosphere.
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Now, when thinking about the latter, so far I've spoken about technology,
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but we shouldn't forget that also, nature offers several solutions
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to extract carbon from the air,
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such as forests and oceans.
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And one element that is very important
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will be doubling down on these methods offered by nature,
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enhancing them and protecting them.
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That is important.
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However, will it be sufficient to rely only on nature-based carbon sinks?
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Very likely not.
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Trees need time to grow and forests need space,
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and there is simply just not enough area available
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to plant entire continents of new forests,
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which we would need
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in order to capture many billions of tons of CO2 from the atmosphere.
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And therefore,
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besides preserving all these nature-based solutions and enhancing them,
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it will be very important to scale up technology-based solutions
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for large-scale carbon removal from the atmosphere.
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Now, I often get asked if you build direct air capture plants
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like the one we saw before,
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is that a license to continue polluting?
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It is clearly not.
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Direct air capture is not a silver bullet, but it is a must-have.
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Had we stopped emitting 20, 30 years ago,
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or at least substantially reduced our emissions,
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Climeworks and this whole emerging industry around us
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would likely not be here today.
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And for the climate,
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that would probably be the better solution.
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However, that's not where we are today.
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Today, the IPCC has indicated in their last report
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that technology-based solutions to remove carbon from the air
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are a necessity,
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and they included it [in] their models.
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And that is why this entire industry that is currently emerging
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now needs to double down on moving from small-scale and relatively expensive
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to larger-scale and cheap.
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Double down on developing, deploying,
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learning and adjusting in the field.
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We have to develop markets,
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we have to develop policy.
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And we have to develop mechanisms
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to analyze the CO2 capture
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and other technical ways of removing CO2
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that take care of the fact
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that by taking CO2 out of the air with machines
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and putting it down in the ground
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we have one of the most permanent ways of storing the CO2 away
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for millions of years.
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Now let’s get back one step,
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and let’s get back to today where we are.
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And let’s get back to the present, to what is concrete.
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Let's get back to Iceland and our Orca plant.
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I've told you before how these collectors extract CO2 from the air.
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Now, how do we make sure that it really permanently stays locked away?
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For that reason, in Iceland,
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we have partnered up with a company Carbfix
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and have developed a method
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for permanent carbon storage through mineralization.
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What they do is they take the CO2, mix it with water,
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and inject it into underground volcanic, so-called basalt rock formations.
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That is one of the most abundant stone or stone material that you find on Earth.
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And by doing so,
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the CO2 binds with the rock, it mineralizes,
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and it literally turns into stone within two years,
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hundreds of meters underground.
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The good thing about that method is that it is very tangible,
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and it's very easy to understand.
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And for that purpose, I've brought this rock sample here for you.
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That is taken actually from a drill core
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of a basalt rock formation hundreds of meters underground.
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And what you can see here, that's a black rock,
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which is the black basalt rock, containing some white crystals.
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And these crystals are CO2 turned into stone underground
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and locked away.
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(Applause)
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Now I explained to you one method of doing this.
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There are several other methods out there.
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There are several other techniques, other technologies.
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But the important thing about it is that this thing is out there.
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It's in practice, it's operating, and we are learning from it.
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And that is so essential for this new industry.
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And we have learned a lot, actually.
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We have learned how to operate on hot, dry summer days.
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We learned to operate them in pouring rain.
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And we even had to learn how to operate them on a just normal day.
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We had to learn how to ramp up the Orca plant
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immediately after an Icelandic snowstorm.
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And this all is what we need
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in order to deploy these plants all over the world.
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We should deploy them all over the world
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because we do need so many of them.
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We can deploy them all over the world because the air is everywhere around us
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and the CO2 is almost the same concentration
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everywhere where we are.
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So it doesn't matter where we capture the CO2.
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And for that reason,
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and in the spirit of deploying more,
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in June of this year
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we have announced the next step on our Climeworks scale-up road map,
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which is named Mammoth, and that is what you see here.
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That is a plant which is nine times larger than the Orca plant,
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that will be in Iceland as well.
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And the first tons of CO2 will be captured by the end of 2023.
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This winter, we will finalize the first building before the snow starts.
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Now there is a big challenge ahead of us.
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And actually, you can only really understand what this challenge is
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and really quantify it
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if you build these things out there,
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make mistakes and learn from them.
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So it's a hard problem.
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It's not a simple problem to solve,
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and there is no easy solution to it.
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And without action like this, there is no solution at all.
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And so when I started looking back at the last 15 years,
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what we have been doing,
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I'm now looking forward to the next 15 years that are to come
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because that is what we need.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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