It’s Time To Rethink the Role of First Lady | Irina Karamanos Adrian | TED

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In 2021, Gabriel Boric became the elected President of Chile.
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He was one of the youngest worldwide
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and one of the most voted in the country's history.
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He was supported by a political party
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called Convergencia Social.
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And by the time of the election,
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I was in charge of the feminist front of that party.
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So even though I was very confident our candidate was going to win,
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the night itself of the election was still very overwhelming,
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especially so when we got to walk through the crowds, held by security.
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You know, it suddenly all felt so real
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because we were walking to a stage
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in front of where thousands of people had gathered to celebrate the victory.
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Because Gabriel Boric was not just a candidate I was supporting,
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he was also my partner.
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So soon enough,
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this meant for people that I was about to become a First Lady.
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And now I come to you, this great audience,
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and want to ask you,
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have you ever thought of becoming a First Lady?
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Is it something you thought of growing up or lately, I don't know?
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(Laughter)
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Well, I didn't think so.
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Me neither.
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Until I was about to become one.
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Because really, whatever your partner does, you know,
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do you picture yourself getting up in the morning
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and accompanying him or her to his or her job?
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(Laughter)
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You know?
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And now picture that job being to rule over a country.
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(Laughter)
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But as much as it comes as a surprise to me,
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imagine what a surprise it might be to the voters that don't elect you.
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They elected the president, right?
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And the president chose me,
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but surely not thinking of me becoming an authority one day.
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And so I first rejected the idea
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of becoming a First Lady,
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and all of, you know, what that meant.
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And so, many people criticized me,
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but many feminists applauded me, right.
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Because, as a feminist,
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I can see that feminist beliefs
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seem contradictory or incompatible with being a First Lady.
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On the one hand,
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OK, what does a feminist possibly want to do
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in such a conservative space?
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But on the other hand,
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ain't the pursuit of taking feminist action,
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even more so in such an unlikely place,
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something that is worth doing
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more than caring about your coherent image as a feminist?
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So I decided to meet up with former First Ladies
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of the last decades
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and talk to them about their achievements, about their experiences.
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So I talked to them, and that was very important.
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It was crucial.
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And I also made meetings with feminists from different generations
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to talk it all through.
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But the point and the moment that really struck me
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was my meetings with attorneys,
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because they told me the following.
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They were like, "Well, this is great for you.
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You will have so many opportunities
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and the chance to do whatever you want with your interests."
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And I was like, this doesn't sound right.
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You know, he was like, "Yes, because you can create projects,
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you can create new foundations, because this is not regulated
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and there are many gray zones."
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(Laughter)
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I realized what this construction was all about.
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In Chile, First Lady's institutionalized version looks like this,
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because they got progressively more and more functions, alright?
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So they are anchored in the state through diverse set of things.
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On the one hand,
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you've got foundations, a set of foundations,
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for example, for childhood education.
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Then you’ve got a foundation for recycling computers.
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Then you’ve got a foundation for empowering women.
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Then you've got a museum with a focus on interactive approach.
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Then you’ve got education and music.
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But they were all formed by former First Ladies.
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And you get to preside [over] all of these foundations,
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regardless of your professional background.
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(Laughter)
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And through them, you can do your projects or make more foundations, right?
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(Laughter)
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And then you've got protocol, OK?
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Protocol is accompanying the president
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to several events, ceremonies, engagements.
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And then you've got something very important.
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Or at least I find it very important because it's so symbolic.
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They give you an office right inside of the presidential palace.
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But it's not just an office, it's the most beautiful one.
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Like, people actually call it Versailles, OK?
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And you get to choose a team,
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which I would publicly like to thank.
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And so I decided to make a plan.
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And my approach would be to tackle both issues,
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the democratic illegitimacy of having the institution of marriage
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so embedded in state,
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and on the other hand, you know --
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(Laughter)
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the gender-biased imaginary around this figure, OK?
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But this meant making a turn again, towards action this time,
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because I thought, OK, on the one hand,
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if I do nothing, if I don't take the job,
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nothing will change.
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If I do take the job,
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at least I have the chance to change something.
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And we all know how traditions work.
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They repeat in time until something or someone interrupts it.
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So this meant making a new press conference
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where I would say that I was to take office
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in order to transform the figure of First Ladies.
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Of course, I got criticism again,
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and a lot of people actually didn't understand this.
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But something a bit painful was, of course,
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that many feminists criticized me too.
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So in that criticism, you know, is bad press
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when you come from a feminist party or a progressive party, for sure.
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But while it was super uncomfortable
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and I knew I was going to be,
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I was very convinced that I should use my power this way.
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That's what I felt, at least.
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So I started presiding [over] the existing foundations.
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So I wanted to know if they were still, you know,
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following their social goals.
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And in order to have that diagnosed,
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I talked to the unions, to the workers,
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I wanted to understand if they still felt valued,
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if they still felt that they were taken, you know,
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into account as professionals
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or if, you know,
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politics were making something else out of them.
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And I talked to them. I improved salaries.
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I, you know, I made job listings public.
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We made processes more transparent.
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And we also tried to make standards higher in general.
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So after all of this was done,
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we were ready for the next step,
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which was
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the First Lady not presiding over these foundations anymore.
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(Laughter)
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So ...
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Now you've got the ministries making the decision.
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So, for instance,
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now that we do have a Ministry for Women and Equality,
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she decides who will be the president
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of the foundation about empowerment for women, right?
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The Minister of Education is the one who decides
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who will be the president of the foundation for childhood education.
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Makes sense, right?
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All these changes took about nine months.
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Now I'm just me.
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I have no team, no office, and no official role.
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I don't take any resources from state.
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And I still have a lot of public exposure,
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and I would still attend meaningful events with my partner.
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Which brings me to the next issue I wanted to tackle,
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which is gender stereotypes, right?
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Because it turns out we actually still look at masculine authorities
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as people that need to be complemented by a feminine other.
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But if you think about a woman
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that has just been elected, or a woman in power,
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we expect her to have both male and female qualities.
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So this not only tells you
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that relationships in such high rank,
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like in a visible platform,
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are expected to be heteronormative and traditional,
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but it also tells you how embedded marriage is in state.
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Turns out it was very normal to have the wife around.
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So I thought
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this kind of condescending constellation around the president
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is something that will not be well-received
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from the new generations of politicians.
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Because if you think about it,
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women accompanying presidents are still seen as assets.
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They are seen as someone who gives the president an image of more stability,
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of completeness and of balance.
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But that is because of our accustomed view of duality.
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And I think we were already past that.
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I mean, church and state,
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state and love,
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state and marriage.
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Doesn't it sound antiquated already when you say it out loud?
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When it comes to women in politics,
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yes, of course we want as many as possible.
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But the good news is, we can vote for them, right?
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(Laughter)
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(Cheers and applause)
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Yeah.
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I say we keep marriage out of the presidential must-haves
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and legitimize the person we vote for.
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My goal for taking on the institutional side of First Lady was to make change.
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To take away power from a position that is a result of affection
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and not of democratic process.
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Some people may think
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that this is a personal rejection of a privilege.
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Instead, it's a political rejection of power
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from where it doesn't belong.
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I am not to have --
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(Applause)
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Thank you.
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I am not to have power that people have not given me.
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So I see state innovations as crucial to turn the game around
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when it comes to the devaluation of our democracies.
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Because when you think about it,
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making changes in governmental institutions,
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updating them, making them more legit again,
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and taking away parts
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that don't represent contemporary needs anymore
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might make people feel more close, more reflected
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in the instrument of democracies.
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And that's what it's there for.
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So if making symbolic, cultural and institutional changes
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increases our attachment to democratic values,
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then I say it's worth a try.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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