What sticky sea creatures can teach us about making glue | Jonathan Wilker

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Translator: Hiroko Kawano Reviewer: Tanya Cushman
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So I'd like you to join me on a field trip,
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and I want to go to the beach and take you all to the beach
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and so enjoy the sea air and the salt spray.
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And let's go down to the water's edge,
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and you'll notice we're getting knocked around by the waves,
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and it's really difficult to stay in place, right?
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But now, look down,
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and what you're going to see
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is that the rocks are covered by all sorts of sea creatures
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that are just staying there in place, no problem.
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It turns out that if you want to survive in this really demanding environment,
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your very existence is dependent upon your ability to make glue, actually.
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So let me introduce you to some of the heroes of our story,
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just a few of them.
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So these are mussels,
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and you'll notice they're covering the rocks,
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and what they've done is made adhesives,
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and they're sticking down on the rocks,
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and they're sticking to each other, actually.
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So they're hunkered down together as a group.
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This is a close-up photograph of an oyster reef,
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and oysters, they're amazing.
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What they do is they cement to each other,
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and they build these huge, extensive reef systems.
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They can be kilometers long, they can be meters deep,
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and arguably, they are the most dominant influence
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on how healthy any coastal marine ecosystem is going to be
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because what they do is they're filtering the water constantly,
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they're holding sand and dirt in place.
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Actually, other species live inside of these reefs.
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And then, if you think about what happens when a storm comes in,
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if the storm surge first has to hit miles of these reefs,
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the coast behind it is going to be protected.
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So they're really quite influential.
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If you've been to any rocky beach pretty much anywhere in the world,
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you're probably familiar with what barnacles look like.
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And so what these animals do -
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and there's many others, these are just three of them -
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is they make adhesives,
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they stick to each other and to the rocks and they build communities,
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and by doing this, there's a lot of survival advantages they get.
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So one of them is that just any individual is subjected to less of the turbulence
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and all the damaging features that can happen from that environment.
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So they're all hunkered down there.
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Then, also, there's a safety in numbers thing
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because it also helps you keep away the predators,
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because if, say, a seagull wants to pick you up and eat you,
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it's more difficult for the seagull if they're stuck together.
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And then another thing is it also helps with reproductive efficiency.
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So you can imagine that when Mr. and Mrs. Barnacle decide,
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"OK, it's time to have little baby barnacles" -
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I won't tell you how they do that just yet -
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but when they decide it's time to do that,
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it's a lot easier,
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and their reproductive efficiency's higher if they're all living close together.
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So we want to understand how they do this:
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How do they stick?
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And I can't really tell you all the details,
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because we're still trying to figure it out,
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but let me give you a little flavor
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of some of the things that we're trying to do.
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This is a picture of one of the aquarium systems we have in our lab,
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and everything in the image is part of the system,
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and so what we do is we keep -
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and you can see in the glass tank there, at the bottom, a bunch of mussels.
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We have the water chilled, we have the lights cycled,
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we actually have turbulence in the system
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because the animals make more adhesives for us
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when the water is turbulent.
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So we induce them to make the adhesive,
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we collect it, we study it.
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They're here in Indiana;
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as far as they know, they're in Maine in February,
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and they seem to be pretty happy, as far as we can tell.
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And then we also work with oysters,
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and up top, it's a photo of a small reef in South Carolina,
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and what we're most interested in is how they attach to each other,
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how they connect.
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So what you can see in the bottom image is two oysters cementing to each other.
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We want to know what's in between,
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and so a lot of times, we'll cut them and look down,
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and in the next series of images we have here,
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you can see, on the bottom, we'll have two shells,
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the shell of one animal and the shell of another animal,
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and the cement's in between.
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If you look at the image on the right,
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what you can maybe see
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is that there's structure in the shell of each animal,
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but then, the cement actually looks different.
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And so we're using all sorts of fancy biology and chemistry tools
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to understand what's going on in there,
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and what we're finding is the structures are different
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and the chemistry is actually different, and it's quite interesting.
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And in this picture -
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I guess, let me step back before I tell you what this is.
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So do you know the cartoon "The Magic School Bus"?
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Or if you're a little bit older, "Fantastic Voyage," right?
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And you remember, they had characters
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that they would shrink down to these microscopic levels,
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and then they would sort of swirl in
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and swim around and fly around all these biological structures?
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I think of this as like that, except for it's real in this case.
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And so what we did is we have two oysters that are stuck together,
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and this area used to be completely filled in with the cement,
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and what we're finding is that the cement has lots of different components in there,
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but broadly speaking, there are hard, non-sticky parts
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and there are soft, sticky parts,
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and what we did is we removed the non-sticky parts selectively
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to see what's left -
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for what's actually attaching the animals -
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and what we got is this,
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and we can see there's a sticky adhesive that's holding them together.
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And I just think it's a really cool image
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because you can imagine yourself flying in and going back there.
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Anyways, those are some of the things we're doing to understand
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how marine biology is making these materials.
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And from a fundamental perspective, it's really exciting to learn.
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But what do we want to do with this information?
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Well, there's a lot of technological applications
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if we can harness what the animals are doing.
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So let me give you one example.
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So imagine you're at home
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and you break your favorite figurine or a mug or something like that.
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You want to put it back together.
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So where do you go?
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You go to my favorite place in town,
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which is the glue aisle of the hardware store.
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I know where you spend your nights
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because you're all hip, cool people, because you're here,
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and you're going to bars and concerts -
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this is where I hang out every night.
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So anyways,
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so what I want you to do is get one of every adhesive that's on the shelf,
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bring it home,
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but before you try to put things back together,
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I want you to try to do it in a bucket of water.
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It's won't work, right? We all know this.
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So obviously, marine biology has solved this,
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so what we need to do is figure out ways to be able to copy this ourselves.
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And one of the issues here
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is you can't just go and get the materials from the beach,
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because if you get some mussels and try to milk them for their adhesive,
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you'll get a little bit of material,
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but you're never going to have enough to do anything with, just enough to see.
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We need to scale this up, ideally maybe train-car scale.
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So on the top is an image of one of the types of molecules
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that the animals use to make their glue,
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and what they are is very long molecules called proteins,
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and these proteins happen to have some fairly unique parts in them
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that bring about the adhesive properties.
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What we want to do is take those little parts of that chemistry,
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and we want to put it into other long molecules that we can get,
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but that we can make on a really large scale,
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so you might know them as plastics or polymers,
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and so we're sort of simplifying what they do
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but then putting that adhesion chemistry into these large molecules.
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And we've developed many different adhesive systems in doing this.
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When you make a new adhesive that looks pretty good, what do you do?
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You start running around the lab, just sticking stuff together.
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In this case, we took a bit of a glue and glued together two pieces of metal.
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We hung something from it to see what it looked like,
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so we used a pot of live mussels, and we thought we were very clever.
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(Laughs)
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We're obviously much more quantitative about this most often,
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and so we benchmark against commercial adhesives,
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and we actually have some materials now that are stronger than superglue.
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So to me, that's really cool.
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That's a good day in the lab: it's stronger than superglue.
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And here's something else that we can do.
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So this is a tank of seawater,
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and then in that syringe is one of our adhesive formulations.
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What we're doing is we're dispensing it completely underwater
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on a piece of metal.
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And then we want to make an adhesive bond, or joint.
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So we take another piece of metal,
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and we put it on there and just position it.
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And you want to let it set up for a while, give it a chance,
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so we'll just put a weight on it, nothing fancy.
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This is a tube with lead shot in it, nothing fancy.
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And then you let it sit for a while.
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So this has never seen air; it's completely underwater.
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And you pick it up.
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I never know what's going to happen; I'm always very anxious here.
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You pick it up ...
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and it stuck.
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To me, this is really cool.
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So we can actually get very strong underwater adhesion.
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Possibly, it's the strongest or one of the strongest underwater adhesives
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that's ever been seen.
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It's even stronger than the materials that the animals produce,
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so for us, it's pretty exciting, it's pretty cool.
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So what do we want to do with these things?
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Well, here are some products that you're probably really familiar with.
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So think about your cell phone, your laptop, plywood in most structures,
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the interior of your car, shoes, phone books - things like this.
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They're all held together with adhesives,
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and there's two main problems
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with the adhesives used in these materials.
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The first one is that they're toxic.
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So the worst offender here is plywood.
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Plywood or a lot of furniture or wood laminate in floors -
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a main component of the adhesives here is formaldehyde,
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and it's maybe a compound you've heard of.
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It's a gas, and it's also a carcinogen,
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and so we're constructing a lot of structures from these adhesives,
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and we're also breathing a lot of this carcinogen.
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So not good, obviously, right?
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The other issue is that these adhesives are all permanent.
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And so what do you do with your shoes or your car or even your laptop
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at the end of life, when you're done using it?
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For the most part, they end up in landfills.
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There's precious materials in there
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we'd love to be able to get out and recycle them,
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but we can't do it so easily,
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because they're all stuck together permanently, right?
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So here's one approach we're taking to try and solve some of these problems,
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and what we've done here is we've taken another long molecule
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that we can actually get from corn,
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and then into that molecule,
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we've put some of the adhesion chemistry from the mussels.
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So because we've got the corn and we've got the mussels,
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we call this our surf-and-turf polymer.
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And it sticks. It sticks really well.
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It's very strong.
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It's also bio-based. That's nice.
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But maybe more importantly, here, it's also degradable;
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we can degrade it under very mild conditions,
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just with water.
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And so what we can do is we can set things up
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and we can bond them strongly when we want,
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but we can also take them apart when we want.
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It's something we're thinking about.
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And here is a place where a lot of us want to be.
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Actually, in this specific case, this is a place we do not want to be,
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but we'd like to replace this.
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So sutures, staples, screws:
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this is how we put you back together if you've had some surgery or an injury.
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It's just awful. It hurts.
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In the case of the sutures,
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look at how much you're making concentrated, mechanical stresses
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as you pull things together;
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you're making sites for infection;
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poke holes in healthy tissue - it's not so good.
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Or if you need a plate to hold together your bones,
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look at how much healthy bone you have to drill out
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just to hold the plate in place - so this is awful.
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To me, it looks like these were devised in a medieval torture chamber,
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but it's our modern surgical joinery.
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So I'd love it if we'd get to a place where we can replace systems like this
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with adhesives, right?
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It's not easy.
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We're working on this, but this is not easy.
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So think about what you would need for adhesives in these cases.
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So first of all,
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you would need an adhesive that will set in a wet environment.
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And if you look at the silly little picture there,
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it's just to illustrate that our bodies are about 60 percent water,
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so it's a wet environment.
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It's also to illustrate that this is why I am a scientist and not an artist.
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I did not miss my calling at all.
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So then, the other requirements you need for a good biomedical adhesive:
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it needs to bond strongly, of course,
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and it needs to not be toxic.
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You don't want to hurt the patients.
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And getting any two of those requirements in a material is pretty easy.
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It's been done many times.
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But getting all three hasn't been done; it's very hard.
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And then if you talk to surgeons, they get really picky:
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"Oh, actually I want the adhesive to set on the same time frame as the surgery."
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Oh, okay.
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Or, "Oh, I want the adhesive to degrade
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so the patient's tissues can remodel the site."
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So this is really hard. We're working on it.
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This is just one image we have.
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So we're getting all sorts of bones and skin and soft tissue and hard tissue,
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and sometimes we'll whack it with a hammer.
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Usually, we're cutting it in very precise shapes;
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then we glue them back together.
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We've got some exciting results, some strong materials,
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some things that look like they're not toxic.
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They set wet, looks pretty good,
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but I won't tell you we've solved the wet-adhesion problem,
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because we haven't,
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but it's certainly in our sights for the future.
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So that's one place that we'd like to see things go farther down the road.
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There's lots of other places, too, you can imagine,
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we might be better off if we could get more adhesives in there.
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So one thing is cosmetics.
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So if you think about people putting on fake nails or eyelash extensions here -
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like this -
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what do they use?
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They use very toxic adhesives right now.
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So it's just ripe for replacement.
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That's something we'd like to do.
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And there are other places too.
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So think about cars and planes.
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The lighter you can make them,
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the more fuel efficient they're going to be.
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And so if we can get away from rivets and from welding
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to put more adhesives in there,
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then we might be better off
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with our future generation of transportation.
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So for us, this all comes back to the beach.
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So we look around and we wonder, "How do these sea creatures stick?
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And what can we do with the technology?"
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And I would argue that we have really a lot of things we can still learn
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from biology and from nature.
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So what I'd like to encourage you all to do in the future
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is put down your nonrecyclable laptops and cell phones
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and go out and explore the natural world
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and then start asking some of your own questions.
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Thanks very much.
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(Applause)
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