Where on Earth Will People Live in the Future? | Parag Khanna | TED

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: jd yosra ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Mohamed Salem
00:03
From the standpoint of human geography,
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ู…ู† ูˆุฌู‡ุฉ ู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ุฌุบุฑุงููŠุง ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉุŒ
00:06
why we live where we live in the world,
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ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู†ุนูŠุด ุญูŠุซ ู†ุนูŠุด ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŸ
00:09
it's actually driven by a fairly categorically organized set of variables.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู…ุฏููˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ุจุดูƒู„ ุนุงุฏู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุชุบูŠุฑุงุช.
00:15
Those variables are colliding, but you can actually segment them.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุชุบูŠุฑุงุช ุชุชุตุงุฏู…ุŒ ูˆู„ูƒู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุชู‚ุณูŠู…ู‡ุง.
00:19
Demographic imbalances: the gap between young and old.
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ุงู„ุงุฎุชู„ุงู„ุงุช ุงู„ุณูƒุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ ุงู„ูุฌูˆุฉ ู…ุง ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ูˆุงู„ู…ุณู†ูŠู†.
00:22
Young people move to countries where wealthy aging populations need them.
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ูŠู†ุชู‚ู„ ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏู† ุญูŠุซ ูŠุญุชุงุฌ ุงู„ุณูƒุงู† ุงู„ุงุซุฑูŠุงุก ุงู„ู…ุณู†ูˆู† ุงู„ูŠู‡ู….
00:26
That's been happening for generations.
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ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ู…ู†ุฐ ุฃุฌูŠุงู„.
00:28
Political upheaval: civil wars, international conflicts,
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ุงู„ุงุถุทุฑุงุจุงุช ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุฉ: ุงู„ุญุฑูˆุจ ุงู„ุฃู‡ู„ูŠุฉุŒ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฒุนุงุช ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ูŠุฉุŒ
00:31
such as we're witnessing right now,
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ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุดู‡ุฏู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุญุงู„ูŠุŒ
00:32
but of course, the 20th century had a lot of these as well.
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ู„ูƒู† ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ุงู„ู‚ุฑู† ุงู„ุนุดุฑูŠู† ูƒุงู†ุช ุจู‡ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุฃูŠุถู‹ุง.
00:35
So large refugee flows, for example.
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ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ุŒ ุงู„ุชุฏูู‚ุงุช ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ุงุฌุฆูŠู†.
00:38
Economic dislocation, like financial crises,
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ุงู„ุงุถุทุฑุงุจ ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏูŠุŒ ู…ุซู„ ุงู„ุฃุฒู…ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุงู„ูŠุฉ.
00:40
when we have those people move away from areas
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠุตุจุญ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงุดุฎุงุต ูŠู†ุชู‚ู„ูˆู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุทู‚
00:43
that have become deindustrialized, for example,
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุตุจุญุช ุบูŠุฑ ุตู†ุงุนูŠุฉ ู…ุซู„
00:46
like the Rust Belt of the United States or Southern Europe.
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ู…ุซู„ ู†ุทุงู‚ ุงู„ุตุฏุฃ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุฃูˆ ุฌู†ูˆุจ ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจุง.
00:49
Technological disruption.
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ุงู„ุงุถุทุฑุงุจ ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠ,
00:50
That can be AI and automation,
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฐูƒุงุก ุงู„ุงุตุทู†ุงุนูŠ ูˆุงู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ุขู„ููŠ
00:52
forcing you away from the place where you had a stable job.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุฌุจุฑูƒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุจุชุนุงุฏ ุนู† ุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุญูŠุซ ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ูˆุธูŠูุฉ ู…ุณุชู‚ุฑุฉ
00:55
But it could also mean Zoom.
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ูƒู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ู†ุตุฉ ุฒูˆู….
00:57
You can live anywhere, do this call, do your job from anywhere.
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู„ุนูŠุด ุญูŠุซ ุชุฑูŠุฏุŒ ุชุฌุฑูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ุŒ ูุชู‚ูˆู… ุจุนู…ู„ูƒ ู…ู† ุฃูŠ ู…ูƒุงู†.
01:00
So positive and negative.
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ูุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุจู‡ ุนูŠูˆุจ ูˆู…ู…ูŠุฒุงุช.
01:01
And of course, climate change,
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ูˆ ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ุชุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎุŒ
01:02
which is actually the original driver of where we live,
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‡ูˆ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุงู„ู…ุญุฑูƒ ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠ ู„ู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู†ุนูŠุด ููŠู‡
01:05
and it's coming back.
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุนุงุฆุฏ.
01:07
It was the driver of where humans have settled
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ู…ุญุฑูƒ ู„ู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุณุชู‚ุฑ ููŠู‡ ุงู„ุจุดุฑ
01:09
for hundreds of thousands of years,
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ู„ู…ุฆุงุช ุงู„ุขู„ุงู ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู†ูŠู†ุŒ
01:11
and now it's changing.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุชุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ุขู†.
01:13
And if you take all of these together and multiply it by the connectivity,
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ูˆ ุฅุฐุง ุฌู…ุนุช ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ู…ุนุง ูˆุถุงุนูุชู‡ุง ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ุดุจูƒุงุช ุงู„ุฅุชุตุงู„
01:17
all of the infrastructure that we have built to enable human mobility,
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ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ู‡ูŠุงูƒู„ ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุจู†ูŠู†ุงู‡ุง ู„ุชู…ูƒูŠู† ุงู„ุชู†ู‚ู„ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠ
01:21
you get a world in which weโ€™re going to use that capacity for mobility,
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ุณูˆู ุชุญุตู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุนุงู„ู… ู†ุณุชุทูŠุน ููŠู‡ ุงู„ุฅุณุชูุงุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ุฏุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชู†ู‚ู„
01:25
and we're going to have mass migrations
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ูˆ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู‡ุฌุฑุงุช ุฌู…ุงุนูŠุฉ
01:27
potentially on a scale we've never seen before.
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ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุญูˆ ุฑุจู…ุง ู„ู… ู†ุฑู‡ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„.
01:29
And that's what I want to dive into a little bit right now.
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ุชุนู…ู‚ ููŠู‡ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุง ุงู„ุขู†.
01:33
So let's start with the climate angle.
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ู„ุฐุง ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุจุฏุฃ ู…ู† ู†ุงุญูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎ.
01:35
This map actually shows you the present distribution of the world population.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุชูˆุถุญ ุงู„ุชูˆุฒูŠุน ุงู„ุญุงู„ูŠ ู„ู„ุณูƒุงู† ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
01:38
This is it, all of us, you,
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ูˆุถุน. ุฌู…ูŠุนู†ุงุŒ ุงู†ุชุŒ
01:40
wherever you are, you are a pixel on this map.
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ุฃูŠู†ู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ูุฅู†ูƒ ุชู…ุซู„ ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ู…ุถูŠุฆุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ.
01:43
There's eight billion pixels here.
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ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ู…ุถูŠุฆุฉ ู‡ู†ุง.
01:45
Now, watch what happens, tragically,
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ุงู„ุขู† ุดุงู‡ุฏ ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุญูˆ ู…ุฃุณุงูˆูŠ
01:48
as climate change advances
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ู…ุน ุชุทูˆุฑ ุชุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎ
01:50
and as what is called the suitability of a geography changes,
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ูˆ โ€œุงู„ู…ู„ุงุกู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฌุบุฑุงููŠุฉโ€ ูƒู…ุง ุชุณู…ู‰ุŒ ุชุชุบูŠุฑ
01:55
in other words, the suitability for human habitation and survivability.
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ูˆุจุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ู…ุฏู‰ ู…ู„ุงุกู…ุฉ ุณูƒู† ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู† ูˆู‚ุฏุฑุชู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุจู‚ุงุก.
01:59
Now, what you just saw happen is an animation
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ู…ุง ุฑุฃูŠุชู‡ ู„ู„ุชูˆ ูŠุญุฏุซ ู‡ูˆ ุฑุณู… ู…ุชุญุฑูƒ
02:02
that reflects whatโ€™s called the Suitability Index,
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ูŠุนูƒุณ ู…ุง ูŠุณู…ู‰ ุจ โ€œู…ุคุดุฑ ุงู„ู…ู„ุงุกู…ุฉโ€
02:05
derived from measurements of temperature change.
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ุงู„ู…ุณุชู…ุฏ ู…ู† ู‚ูŠุงุณุงุช ุชุบูŠุฑ ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุญุฑุงุฑุฉ.
02:08
There's obviously many other climate-related factors as well,
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ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุงุถุญ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนูˆุงู…ู„ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุงู„ู…ุชุนู„ู‚ุฉ ุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎ ุฃูŠุถู‹ุง:
02:11
rising sea levels, among others.
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ู…ู† ุจูŠู†ู‡ู… ุงุฑุชูุงุน ู…ุณุชูˆู‰ ุณุทุญ ุงู„ุจุญุฑ.
02:13
But this is strictly based upon temperature.
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ู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนุชู…ุฏ ุจุดูƒู„ ุจุญุช ุนู„ู‰ ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุญุฑุงุฑุฉ
02:15
And red doesn't mean you cannot live there,
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ูˆุงู„ู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุญู…ุฑ ู„ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุงู†ูƒ ู„ุง ุชุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู„ุนูŠุด ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŒ
02:17
but it means that it's becoming decreasingly suitable for human life,
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ูŠุตุจุญ ุฃู‚ู„ ู…ู„ุงุกู…ุฉ ู„ู„ุญูŠุงุฉ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ.
02:22
whereas green means that relative to how it used to be,
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ููŠ ุญูŠู† ุฃู† ุงู„ู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุฎุถุฑ ูŠุนู†ูŠุฃู†ู‡ ู‚ุฑูŠุจ ู„ู„ุดูƒู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ุนู„ูŠู‡ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ุŒ
02:24
it's becoming more suitable for human life.
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ุฃูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ ุฃุตุจุญ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู„ุงุกู…ุฉ ู„ู„ุญูŠุงุฉ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ.
02:27
Now, this is the greatest irony in the entire world today.
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ุญุงู„ูŠุงุŒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุฃูƒุจุฑ ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุจุฃุณุฑู‡.
02:31
I can think of no more profound paradox that we've ever encountered than this.
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ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ููŠ ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ ุนู…ูŠู‚ุฉ ูˆุงุฌู‡ู†ุงู‡ุง ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡
02:37
Think about what I showed you before.
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ููƒุฑูˆุง ููŠู…ุง ุนุฑุถุชู‡ ุนู„ูŠูƒู… ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„.
02:39
Most of the human population lives in places
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ูŠุนูŠุด ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ุณูƒุงู† ููŠ ุงู„ุฃู…ุงูƒู†
02:42
that are basically turning red.
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‡ูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณ ุชุชุญูˆู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุญู…ุฑ.
02:44
The places that are green right now on your map
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ุงู„ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ุจุงู„ู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุฎุถุฑ ุฃู…ุงู…ูƒู… ุงู„ุขู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ
02:46
are places that are depopulating.
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ู‡ูŠ ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ู…ู‡ุฌูˆุฑุฉ.
02:49
Less and less people
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ูŠู‚ู„ ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ู†ุงุณ
02:51
as a result of old age and mortality and low fertility rates.
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ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ุงู„ุดูŠุฎูˆุฎุฉ ูˆ ุงู„ูˆููŠุงุช ูˆ ุงู†ุฎูุงุถ ู…ุนุฏู„ุงุช ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุจุฉ.
02:56
So the rich countries of the world, the United States, Canada,
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ูู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ ุงู„ุบู†ูŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŒ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉุŒ ูƒู†ุฏุงุŒ
02:59
Europe and so forth, Russia, Japan would actually be declining in population,
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ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจุง ูˆ ุบูŠุฑู‡ุงุŒ ุฑูˆุณูŠุง ูˆ ุงู„ูŠุงุจุงู†ุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุณูˆู ูŠู†ุฎูุถูˆุง ููŠ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุณูƒุงู†ุŒ
03:03
Russia most certainly is,
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ุฑูˆุณูŠุง ู‡ูŠ ุจุงู„ุชุฃูƒูŠุฏ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŒ
03:05
were it not for immigration.
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ู„ูˆู„ุง ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ.
03:07
This is what we have to solve.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุงูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุญู„ู‡.
03:09
This is the profound challenge.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุชุญุฏูŠ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑ.
03:11
In one picture that's worth millions of words,
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ููŠ ุตูˆุฑุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ุชุณุงูˆูŠ ู…ู„ุงูŠูŠู† ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุชุŒ
03:14
this is the world that we seem to be headed towards.
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ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู†ุชุฌู‡ ู†ุญูˆู‡.
03:17
We need to figure out how eight billion people reside on this landmass.
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ู†ุญู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ูƒูŠู ูŠู‚ูŠู… ุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑุงุช ุดุฎุต ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ.
03:23
The territorial area on this map is 150 million square kilometers.
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ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู‚ู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ 150 ู…ู„ูŠูˆู† ูƒูŠู„ูˆู…ุชุฑ ู…ุฑุจุน.
03:26
There are eight billion of us.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจุดุฑ.
03:28
Where do we go to optimize our own survival as a species?
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃูŠู† ู†ุฐู‡ุจ ู„ุชุญุณูŠู† ุจู‚ุงุฆู†ุง ูƒู†ูˆุนุŸ
03:32
And because of the lines that are missing on this map, the borders,
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ูˆุจุณุจุจ ุงู„ุฎุทูˆุท ุงู„ู…ูู‚ูˆุฏุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ โ€œุงู„ุญุฏูˆุฏโ€
03:36
this becomes a lot more difficult
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ูŠุตุจุญ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุตุนูˆุจุฉ
03:38
than it would be if we could simply wander wherever we wanted to
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ู…ู…ุง ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุฅุฐุง ุชู…ูƒู†ุง ุจุจุณุงุทุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชู†ู‚ู„ ุฃูŠู†ู…ุง ุฃุฑุฏู†ุง
03:41
the way we did when we were populating the continents
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ูƒูŠูู…ุง ูุนู„ู†ุง ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูƒู†ุง ู†ุณูƒู† ุงู„ู‚ุงุฑุงุช
03:44
over the last 100,000 years.
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ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„100.000 ุณู†ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุฉ.
03:47
Now, over the last 30 years,
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ุงู„ุขู† ูˆุนู„ู‰ ู…ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„30 ุณู†ุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉุŒ
03:48
this has been a stable migration arrangement in the world.
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ูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุชุฑุชูŠุจู‹ุง ู…ุณุชู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู„ู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
03:53
The largest number of people moving within and across regions
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ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุนุฏุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠู†ุชู‚ู„ูˆู† ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ุงู‚ุงู„ูŠู… ูˆุนุจุฑู‡ุง
03:57
is documented for you here.
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ู…ูˆุซู‚ุฉ ู„ูƒ ู‡ู†ุง.
03:59
And it's people within the former Soviet republics,
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ูˆุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠุงุช ุงู„ุณูˆููŠุชูŠุฉ ุงู„ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ
04:01
so Ukrainians to Russia, Russians to Ukraine.
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ูˆุจุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ ุงู„ุฃูˆูƒุฑุงู†ูŠูŠู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุฑูˆุณูŠุง ูˆุงู„ุฑูˆุณ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃูˆูƒุฑุงู†ูŠุง.
04:04
Now Ukrainians out of both Russia and Ukraine.
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ุงู„ุฃูˆูƒุฑุงู†ูŠูŠู† ุงู„ุขู† ุฎุงุฑุฌ ูƒู„ุงู‡ู…ุง: ุฑูˆุณูŠุง ูˆุฃูˆูƒุฑุงู†ูŠุง.
04:08
South Asians moving to the Persian Gulf countries.
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ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ู† ุฌู†ูˆุจ ุขุณูŠุง ูŠู†ุชู‚ู„ูˆู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุฏูˆู„ ุงู„ุฎู„ูŠุฌ ุงู„ุนุฑุจูŠ.
04:11
Latin Americans moving north into Central and North America.
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ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ู† ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง ุงู„ู„ุงุชูŠู†ูŠุฉ ุชุชุญุฑูƒ ุดู…ุงู„ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง ุงู„ูˆุณุทู‰ ูˆุงู„ุดู…ุงู„ูŠุฉ.
04:16
Europeans within Europe and so on.
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ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจูŠูˆู† ุฏุงุฎู„ ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจุง ูˆู…ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ.
04:18
This is whatโ€™s been steady flows, if you will, of people
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ุชุฏูู‚ุงุช ุซุงุจุชุฉุŒ ุฅุฐุง ุตุญ ุงู„ุชุนุจูŠุฑุŒ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ
04:22
over the last 30 years.
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ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุงู„30 ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุฉ.
04:23
But the next 30 years won't be exactly the same.
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุงู„30 ุงู„ู‚ุงุฏู…ุฉ ู„ู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุซู„ู‡ุง ุชู…ุงู…ุง.
04:26
And that we, again, don't have a map for,
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ูˆุฃู†ู†ุงุŒ ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ู„ูŠุณ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ ู„ู‡ุงุŒ
04:28
there isn't even really a historical precedent
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ู„ุง ุชูˆุฌุฏ ุญุชู‰ ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎูŠุฉ
04:30
for that kind of movement across regions, across continents, as we might see.
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ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฑูƒุฉ ุนุจุฑ ุงู„ุฃู‚ุงู„ูŠู… ูˆุนุจุฑ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฑุงุช ูƒู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ู†ุฑู‰.
04:36
Now, the second demographic factor here is
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ุงู„ุนุงู…ู„ ุงู„ุณูƒุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ุขู† ู‡ู†ุง ู‡ูˆ
04:40
our overall world population.
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ุฅุฌู…ุงู„ูŠ ุณูƒุงู† ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
04:41
All of this is happening at a time when,
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ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ููŠ ูˆู‚ุชุŒ
04:44
instead of the world reaching 15 billion people,
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ุจุฏู„ุง ู…ู† ุฃู† ูŠุตู„ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุฅู„ู‰ 15 ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ุดุฎุตุŒ
04:47
as some predicted in the 1980s and 1990s,
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ูƒู…ุง ุชูˆู‚ุน ุงู„ุจุนุถ ููŠ ุงู„ุซู…ุงู†ูŠู†ุงุช ูˆุงู„ุชุณุนูŠู†ุงุช
04:51
instead it could well be that our world population
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ุจุฏู„ุง ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ูุฅู† ุนุฏุฏ ุณูƒุงู† ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…
04:54
never even reaches 10 billion people.
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ู‚ุฏ ู„ุง ูŠุตู„ ุฅู„ู‰ 10 ู…ู„ูŠุงุฑ ุดุฎุต.
04:55
So I call it peak humanity.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃุณู…ูŠู‡ุง ุฐุฑูˆุฉ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ.
04:57
Fertility is declining.
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ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุจุฉ ุขุฎุฐุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุงู†ุฎูุงุถ.
04:59
Again, note the mismatch.
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ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ู„ุงุญุธ ุนุฏู… ุงู„ุชุทุงุจู‚
05:01
The wealthy countries of the north
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ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ ุงู„ุบู†ูŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุดู…ุงู„
05:02
are the ones that are shrinking in population,
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ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุชู‚ู„ุต ููŠ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุณูƒุงู†ุŒ
05:05
whereas young countries of the South and the developing world
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ููŠ ุญูŠู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ ุงู„ุตุบูŠุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุฌู†ูˆุจ ูˆุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ู†ุงู…ูŠ
05:08
still have very large, young populations.
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ู„ุง ูŠุฒุงู„ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ุง ุนุฏุฏ ูƒุจูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุณูƒุงู† ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ
05:10
And we need to find ways to correct that mismatch
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ูˆู†ุญู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฅูŠุฌุงุฏ ุทุฑู‚ ู„ุชุตุญูŠุญ ุนุฏู… ุงู„ุชุทุงุจู‚ ู‡ุฐุง.
05:13
if we want to have a global population that is sort of, you know,
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ุฅุฐุง ุงุฑุฏู†ุง ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุณูƒุงู† ุนุงู„ู…ูŠูˆู† ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†, ู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง
05:17
stable and willing to reproduce.
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ู…ุณุชู‚ุฑูˆู† ูˆู…ุณุชุนุฏูˆู† ู„ู„ุชูƒุงุซุฑ.
05:21
Not that we want to have a population surge,
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ู„ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ุฑูŠุฏ ุฒูŠุงุฏุฉ ุณูƒุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ
05:24
but we don't want to crash either.
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ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ู„ุง ู†ุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฅู†ู‡ูŠุงุฑ ุฃูŠุถุง.
05:26
We need to think about how young people can cope with climate, with geopolitics,
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ู†ุญุชุงุฌ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ููŠ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุชุนุงู…ู„ ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎุŒ ู…ุน ุงู„ุฌุบุฑุงููŠุง ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุฉุŒ
05:31
with the economic pressure,
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ู…ุน ุงู„ุถุบุท ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏูŠุŒ
05:32
and live in places where they can still produce
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ูˆ ุงู„ุนูŠุด ููŠ ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ู„ุง ูŠุฒุงู„ ุจุฅู…ูƒุงู†ู‡ู… ุฅู†ุชุงุฌ
05:35
a sizeable next generation of people.
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ุฌูŠู„ ูƒุจูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ.
05:37
What's happening right now
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ู…ุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ุงู„ุขู†
05:38
is that young people aren't having any children.
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ู„ุง ูŠู†ุฌุจูˆู† ุฃูŠ ุฃุทูุงู„.
05:41
And that's going to actually lead
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ูˆุณูˆู ูŠุคุฏูŠ ุฐู„ูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ู‡ ุฅู„ู‰
05:43
to a very steep population crash in many ways.
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ุงู†ู‡ูŠุงุฑ ุณูƒุงู†ูŠ ุญุงุฏ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ ู…ู† ู†ูˆุงุญูŠ ูƒุซูŠุฑุฉ.
05:46
So this got me thinking about how young people think.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุฌุนู„ู†ูŠ ุงููƒุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠููƒุฑ ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ.
05:49
And this forms a big part of the argument of the "Move" book,
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุดูƒู„ ุฌุฒุก ูƒุจูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ู‚ุงุด ููŠ ูƒุชุงุจ โ€œุงู„ุญุฑูƒุฉโ€
05:52
because when we, and I don't mean we as in every one of you,
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ุง ุนู†ุฏู…ุงุŒ ูˆุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃุนู†ูŠ โ€œุฃู†ู†ุงโ€ ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุญุงู„ ููŠ ูƒู„ ูˆุงุญุฏ ู…ู†ูƒู…ุŒ
05:55
but when people who are say, my age or older, Gen X or,
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ูˆ ู„ูƒู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ู…ุซู„ ุนู…ุฑูŠ ุฃูˆ ุงูƒุจุฑุŒ ุงู„ุฌูŠู„ x
05:59
you know, baby boomers,
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ุฃูˆ ูƒุซูŠุฑูŠ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌุงุจ
06:01
we speak very confidently in this sort of,
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ู†ุชุญุฏุซ ุจุซู‚ุฉ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ูˆุน ู…ู†
06:04
you know, plural pronoun,
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ุถู…ูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฌู…ุน, ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†,
06:06
you know, as if our views represent the views of people in the world.
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ูƒู…ุง ู„ูˆ ุฃู† ูˆุฌู‡ุงุช ู†ุธุฑู†ุง ุชู…ุซู„ ุขุฑุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
06:09
Young people in cities who donโ€™t have children who are struggling,
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ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฏู† ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู„ูŠุณ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุฃุทูุงู„ ูŠูƒุงูุญูˆู†,
06:13
thatโ€™s the future of humanity.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ.
06:15
Itโ€™s the present and the future of humanity.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุญุงุถุฑ ูˆู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ.
06:18
And I'm interested in the things that we can do
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ูˆ ุฃู†ุง ู…ู‡ุชู… ุจุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ูุนู„ู‡ุง
06:20
to make life better for those people,
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ู„ุฌุนู„ ุญูŠุงุฉ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุฃูุถู„.
06:23
because they are the present and the future
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ู… ุญุงุถุฑ ูˆ ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„
06:26
of our species' population.
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ุฌู†ุณู†ุง ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠ.
06:28
And they do think very differently from previous generations.
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ูˆ ู‡ู… ูŠููƒุฑูˆู† ุจุดูƒู„ ู…ุฎุชู„ู ุชู…ุงู…ู‹ุง ุนู† ุงู„ุฃุฌูŠุงู„ ุงู„ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ.
06:31
They're not loyal to nationality,
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ุฅู†ู‡ู… ู„ูŠุณูˆุง ู…ุฎู„ุตูŠู† ู„ู„ุฌู†ุณูŠุฉุŒ
06:33
they're more interested in certain sets of values.
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ูู‡ู… ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…ุง ุจุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช ู…ุนูŠู†ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ูŠู….
06:35
And those values, that have been very well documented,
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ูˆุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ูŠู…ุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู… ุชูˆุซูŠู‚ู‡ุง ุฌูŠุฏุงุŒ
06:38
are the right to connectivity,
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ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฃุญู‚ ููŠ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ุŒ
06:40
a sustainable world and mobility, their own right to be mobile.
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ูˆููŠ ุนุงู„ู… ู…ุณุชู‚ุฑ ูˆ ู‚ุงุจู„ ู„ุชู†ู‚ู„ุŒ ูˆุญู‚ู‡ู… ููŠ ุงู„ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู„.
06:44
In fact, this is the most mobile generation in the history of the world,
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ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฌูŠู„ ู…ุชู†ู‚ู„ ุนุจุฑ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŒ
06:47
because not only do we have the tools, the physical infrastructure to do it.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ูู‚ุท ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ุฃุฏูˆุงุชุŒ ูˆ ุงู„ุจู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุญุชูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุงุฏูŠุฉ ู„ู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ.
06:51
But again, the things that have pinned people down primarily
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃูˆู‚ุนุช ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃุณุงุณูŠ
06:55
are home ownership and having children.
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ู‡ูŠ ู…ู„ูƒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„ ูˆ ุฅู†ุฌุงุจ ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„.
06:57
But if people don't own homes and don't have children,
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ูˆ ู„ูƒู† ุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠู…ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ู†ุงุฒู„ ูˆู„ู… ูŠู†ุฌุจูˆุง ุฃุทูุงู„ุŒ
07:00
then they are by definition quite mobile,
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ูุฅู†ู‡ู… ุจุญูƒู… ุงู„ุชุนุฑูŠู ู…ุชู†ู‚ู„ูˆู† ุจุดูƒู„ ูƒุงู…ู„ุŒ
07:02
especially if they're not even loyal to their home country
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ุฎุงุตุฉ ุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠูƒูˆู†ูˆุง ู…ุฎู„ุตูŠู† ู„ูˆุทู†ู‡ู… ุงู„ุฃู…
07:05
for the sake of it.
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ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ู‡.
07:07
And so where will young people go
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ูˆ ุจุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃูŠู† ุณูŠุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ
07:09
is a very important question that I'm trying to answer.
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ู‡ูˆ ุณุคุงู„ู…ู‡ู… ุฌุฏุง ุฃุญุงูˆู„ ุงู„ุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡.
07:11
What are they looking for?
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ู…ุง ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุจุญุซูˆู† ุนู†ู‡ุŸ
07:13
Places that offer opportunity,
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ุงู„ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชูˆูุฑ ุงู„ูุฑุตุŒ
07:14
work, particularly professional opportunities,
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ูˆุงู„ุนู…ู„ุŒ ูˆุฎุงุตุฉุงู„ูุฑุต ุงู„ู…ู‡ู†ูŠุฉุŒ
07:17
educational opportunities, a decent quality of life,
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ูุฑุต ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ุŒ ูˆู†ูˆุนูŠุฉ ุญูŠุงุฉ ู„ุงุฆู‚ุฉุŒ
07:20
political stability, climate stability,
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ุงู„ุงุณุชู‚ุฑุงุฑ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุŒ ุงู„ุงุณุชู‚ุฑุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎูŠุŒ
07:22
the basic things that you would expect.
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ูˆ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุชูˆู‚ุนู‡ุง.
07:25
But we need to be clear that countries need to retrofit themselves,
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ูˆ ู„ูƒู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ูƒูˆู† ูˆุงุถุญูŠู† ููŠ ุฃู† ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุชุญุฏูŠุซ ู†ูุณู‡ุงุŒ
07:28
retool themselves, to try and attract
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ูˆ ุฅุนุงุฏุฉ ุชุฌู‡ูŠุฒ ู†ูุณู‡ุงุŒ ู„ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ุงุฌุชุฐุงุจ
07:30
and provide those kinds of environments for young people.
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ูˆ ุชูˆููŠุฑ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฃู†ูˆุงุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุจูŠุฆุงุช ู„ู„ุดุจุงุจ.
07:34
And that's where young people are going to want to go.
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุณูŠุฑุบุจ ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ููŠุงู„ุฐู‡ุงุจ ุฅู„ูŠู‡.
07:36
And countries, I believe, are going to be engaged in a war
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ูˆ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุณุชุดุงุฑูƒ ููŠ ุญุฑุจ
07:39
for young talent,
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ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงู‡ุจ ุงู„ุดุงุจุฉุŒ
07:41
to attract those young people as they are aging.
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ู„ุฌุฐุจ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ู…ุนุชู‚ุฏู…ู‡ู… ููŠ ุงู„ุณู†.
07:44
So there is a road map for us to untangle ourselves from this dilemma
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฎุงุฑุทุฉ ุทุฑูŠู‚ ู„ู†ุง ู„ููƒ ุชุดุงุจูƒุฃู†ูุณู†ุง ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุนุถู„ุฉ
07:48
of geopolitical fragmentation,
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุฌุฒุฆุฉ ุงู„ุฌูŠูˆุณูŠุงุณูŠุฉุŒ
07:50
a climate-stressed world,
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ุนุงู„ู… ูŠุนุงู†ูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅุฌู‡ุงุฏุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎูŠุŒ
07:52
a declining population,
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ุงู†ุฎูุงุถ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุณูƒุงู†ุŒ
07:54
youth that are insecure.
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ุงู„ุดุจุงุจ ุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ุขู…ู†ูŠู†.
07:56
What are we supposed to do?
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ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠูุชุฑุถ ุจู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ูุนู„ุŸ
07:57
Well, the thing is, you know, we can't predict the future,
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ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูˆู…ุง ููŠู‡ุŒ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุงุงู„ุชู†ุจุค ุจุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ุŒ
08:00
but we can make scenarios.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ูˆุถุน ุณูŠู†ุงุฑูŠูˆู‡ุงุช
08:02
So I've constructed these four scenarios along these axes
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุจู†ุงุก ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณูŠู†ุงุฑูŠูˆู‡ุงุช ุงู„ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุทูˆู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุญุงูˆุฑ
08:05
of more or less sustainability and more or less mobility.
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ู…ู† ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฃูˆ ุฃู‚ู„ ุงุณุชุฏุงู…ุฉ ูˆ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฃูˆุฃู‚ู„ ุชู†ู‚ู„ .
08:10
And the truth is that all of these are visible today.
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ูˆ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู† ูƒู„ ุชู„ูƒ ู…ุฑุฆูŠุฉ ุงู„ูŠูˆู….
08:12
We are in a world where regions like Europe act like fortresses.
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ู†ุญู† ููŠ ุนุงู„ู… ุชุชุตุฑู ููŠู‡ ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ู…ุซู„ ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจุง ูƒุงู„ุญุตูˆู†.
08:16
They're investing in their own sustainability,
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ุฅู†ู‡ู… ูŠุณุชุซู…ุฑูˆู† ููŠ ุงุณุชุฏุงู…ุชู‡ู… ุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉุŒ
08:18
but they try to ward off migration.
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ูŠุญุงูˆู„ูˆู† ุฏุฑุก ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ.
08:20
We live in a world that's medieval, a world that is conflictual,
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ู†ุญู† ู†ุนูŠุด ููŠ ุนุงู„ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑูˆู† ุงู„ูˆุณุทู‰ุŒ ุนุงู„ู… ู…ุชุตุงุฑุนุŒ
08:24
in which people are thrust into survival mode
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠุชู… ุฏูุน ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุฅู„ู‰ ูˆุถุน ุงู„ุจู‚ุงุก
08:27
of hunter-gatherer lifestyles.
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ู…ู† ุฃู†ู…ุงุท ุญูŠุงุฉ ุงู„ุตูŠุฏ ูˆุงู„ุฌู…ุน.
08:28
When there is a drought or when there's a flood
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฌูุงู ุฃูˆ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ููŠุถุงู†
08:31
or they're fleeing civil war and conflict
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ุฃูˆ ูŠูุฑูˆู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฑุจ ุงู„ุฃู‡ู„ูŠุฉ ูˆุงู„ุตุฑุงุน
08:33
and they're trying to cross borders like the US-Mexico border,
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ูˆ ู‡ู… ูŠุญุงูˆู„ูˆู† ุนุจูˆุฑ ุงู„ุญุฏูˆุฏ ู…ุซู„ ุญุฏูˆุฏ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูƒุณูŠูƒุŒ
08:36
trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea,
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ููŠ ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ู„ุนุจูˆุฑ ุงู„ุจุญุฑ ุงู„ุฃุจูŠุถ ุงู„ู…ุชูˆุณุทุŒ
08:37
where countries are engaged in land grabs and water wars to acquire resources.
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ุญูŠุซ ุชุดุงุฑูƒ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ููŠ ุงู„ุงุณุชูŠู„ุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุฑุงุถูŠ ูˆุญุฑูˆุจ ุงู„ู…ูŠุงู‡ ู„ู„ุญุตูˆู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุฑุฏ.
08:42
But we also live in a world where there are countries like Canada,
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ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ู†ุนูŠุด ุฃูŠุถุง ููŠ ุนุงู„ู… ุญูŠุซ ุชูˆุฌุฏ ุฏูˆู„ู…ุซู„ ูƒู†ุฏุงุŒ
08:45
which is opening itself up, that's bringing in hundreds of thousands,
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชูุชุญ ู†ูุณู‡ุงุŒ ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฌู„ุจู…ุฆุงุช ุงู„ุขู„ุงูุŒ
08:49
about 400,000 new migrants every single year,
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ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ 400,000 ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑ ุฌุฏูŠุฏ ูƒู„ ุนุงู…ุŒ
08:51
one percent of its population.
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ูˆุงุญุฏููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฆุฉ ู…ู† ุณูƒุงู†ู‡ุง.
08:53
There are a couple of European countries
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฏูˆู„ุชุงู† ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจูŠุชุงู†
08:55
that are realizing that they need to do this as well,
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ุชุฏุฑูƒุงู† ุฃู†ู‡ู…ุง ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุฃูŠุถุงุŒ
08:57
and are kind of changing their tune around immigration.
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ูˆุชู‚ูˆู…ุงู† ุจุชุบูŠูŠุฑู„ู‡ุฌุชู‡ู…ุง ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ.
09:00
And they're trying to do so in a sustainable way,
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ูˆ ู‡ู…ุง ูŠุญุงูˆู„ุงู† ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ุณุชุฏุงู…ุฉ
09:02
focusing on building affordable housing, decarbonizing their economies,
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ู…ุน ุงู„ุชุฑูƒูŠุฒ ุนู„ู‰ ุจู†ุงุก ู…ุณุงูƒู† ุจุฃุณุนุงุฑ ู…ุนู‚ูˆู„ุฉุŒ ูˆุฅุฒุงู„ุฉ ุงู„ูƒุฑุจูˆู† ู…ู† ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏุงุชู‡ู…ุงุŒ
09:05
or at least reducing emissions and so forth.
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ุฃูˆ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠู„ ุงู„ุงู†ุจุนุงุซุงุช ูˆู…ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ.
09:07
The fact is that all of these scenarios are happening at the same time.
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ูˆุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู† ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณูŠู†ุงุฑูŠูˆู‡ุงุช ุชุญุฏุซ ููŠ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช.
09:11
It's incumbent on us to shape the direction that the world goes in
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ู…ู† ูˆุงุฌุจู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุดูƒู„ ุงู„ุงุชุฌุงู‡ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุณูŠุฑ ููŠู‡ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…
09:15
or that the regions that we live in go in, in the future.
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ุฃูˆ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุนูŠุด ููŠู‡ุงุŒ ู†ุฐู‡ุจ ุฅู„ูŠู‡ุง ููŠุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„.
09:19
Geography is what we make of it.
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ุงู„ุฌุบุฑุงููŠุง ู‡ูŠ ู…ุง ู†ุตู†ุนู‡ ู…ู†ู‡ุง.
09:21
You know, we have the tools at our disposal
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ุฃุฏูˆุงุช ุชุญุช ุชุตุฑูู†ุง
09:23
to build a different model of civilization.
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ู„ุจู†ุงุก ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ู…ุฎุชู„ู ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุถุงุฑุฉ.
09:27
And for me, that rests on two principles or two things that you can do.
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ูˆ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ุŒ ูŠุนุชู…ุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุจุฏุฃูŠู† ุฃูˆุดูŠุฆุงู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ู…ุง.
09:31
You are either moving people to places where there are resources
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ุฅู…ุง ุฃู†ูƒุชู†ู‚ู„ ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ุชูˆุฌุฏ ููŠู‡ุงู…ูˆุงุฑุฏ ูˆููŠุฑุฉ
09:35
that are abundant so they can survive,
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ุญุชู‰ ูŠุชู…ูƒู†ูˆุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุจู‚ุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ู‚ูŠุฏ ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฉุŒ
09:37
or you're moving technologies to people,
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ุฃูˆ ุฃู†ูƒ ุชู†ู‚ู„ ุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุงุชุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุตุŒ
09:39
to the places where they need them.
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุญุชุงุฌูˆู† ุฅู„ูŠู‡ุง.
09:40
You're doing one of those two things.
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ุนู„ูŠูƒ ูุนู„ ุฃุญุฏ ู‡ุฐูŠู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑูŠู†.
09:42
If you're not doing one of those two things,
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ุฅุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ู„ุง ุชูุนู„ ุฃุญุฏ ู‡ุฐูŠู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑูŠู†ุŒ
09:44
you should think about how much you're helping the future, if you will,
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ููŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชููƒุฑ ููŠ ู…ุฏู‰ ู…ุณุงุนุฏุชูƒ ู„ู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ุŒ ุฅุฐุง ุตุญู‘ ุงู„ุชุนุจูŠุฑุŒ
09:48
and the people of the present and the future.
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ูˆ ุดุนุจ ุงู„ุญุงุถุฑ ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„.
09:50
The second is, I obviously advocate for mobility as a human right.
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ูˆ ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุงุถุญุฃุฏุงูุน ุนู†ุงู„ุชู†ู‚ู„ ูƒุญู‚ ู…ู† ุญู‚ูˆู‚ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†.
09:53
That doesn't mean that we tear down all borders.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู„ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ู‡ุฏู… ูƒู„ ุงู„ุญุฏูˆุฏ.
09:55
It means that we create systems
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ุจู„ ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ู†ุดุฆ ุฃู†ุธู…ุฉ
09:57
where the mismatches between old and young,
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ุญูŠุซุนุฏู… ุงู„ุชูˆุงูู‚ ุจูŠู† ูƒุจุงุฑ ุงู„ุณู† ูˆุงู„ุดุจุงุจุŒ
09:59
labor shortages and labor supply,
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ูˆ ู†ู‚ุต ุงู„ุนู…ุงู„ุฉ ูˆ ุฅู…ุฏุงุฏุงุช ุงู„ุนู…ุงู„ุฉุŒ
10:01
sustainable and unsustainable locations is corrected.
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ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงู‚ุนุงู„ู…ุณุชุฏุงู…ุฉ ูˆ ุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ุณุชุฏุงู…ุฉ ูŠุชู… ุชุตุญูŠุญู‡ุง.
10:04
And we can do that, but we don't.
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ูˆูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ู„ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡.
10:07
We obviously have to think beyond sovereignty,
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ุจุงู„ุชุฃูƒูŠุฏ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ููƒุฑ ููŠู…ุง ูˆุฑุงุก ุงู„ุณูŠุงุฏุฉุŒ
10:09
therefore to stewardship of the global commons.
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ูˆุจุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠููŠ ุงู„ุฅุดุฑุงู ุนู„ู‰ุงู„ู…ุดุงุนุงุช ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ูŠุฉ.
10:11
We have to pre-design these habitats of the future,
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ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุตู…ู… ู…ุณุจู‚ุง ู…ูˆุงุฆู„ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ุŒ
10:15
which is to say, thinking about allowing people to be perpetually mobile
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ุฃูŠ ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุณู…ุงุญ ู„ู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู†ูˆุง ู…ุชู†ู‚ู„ูŠู† ุจุดูƒู„ ุฏุงุฆู….
10:19
as they need to be in response to geopolitics,
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ูƒู…ุง ูŠุญุชุงุฌูˆู† ุฅู„ู‰ุฃู† ูŠุณุชุฌูŠุจูˆุง ู„ู„ุฌุบุฑุงููŠุง ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุฉุŒ
10:21
in response to climate change,
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ูŠุณุชุฌูŠุจูˆุง ู„ุชุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฎุŒ
10:23
but do so in a way that doesn't trample upon the environment.
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ู„ูƒู† ูŠูุนู„ูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู„ุง ุชุฏูˆุณ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุจูŠุฆุฉุŒ
10:27
Whitney Pennington Rodgers: TED Member Kim has a question.
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ูˆูŠุชู†ูŠ ุจู†ูŠู†ุฌุชูˆู† ุฑูˆุฏุฌุฑุฒ: ุนุถูˆ ุชูŠุฏ ูƒูŠู… ู„ุฏูŠู‡ุณุคุงู„.
10:29
Kim asks, "Immigration to the US seems impossible.
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ูŠุชุณุงุกู„ ูƒูŠู…: โ€œุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุชุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุชุจุฏูˆ ู…ุณุชุญูŠู„ุฉ.
10:33
How do we shift the attitude towards welcoming immigrants here in the US?"
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ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ู ุชุฌุงู‡ุงู„ุชุฑุญูŠุจ ุจุงู„ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑูŠู† ู‡ู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉุŸโ€
10:37
And their question is US-focused, but I think this can apply anywhere.
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ูˆ ุณุคุงู„ู‡ู… ูŠุฑูƒุฒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉุŒ ู„ูƒู† ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ู‚ุฏ ูŠู†ุทุจู‚ ููŠ ุฃูŠ ู…ูƒุงู†.
10:41
How do we shift the attitude everywhere to welcoming people into borders?
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ูƒูŠู ู†ุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ู ููŠ ูƒู„ ู…ูƒุงู† ู„ู„ุชุฑุญูŠุจ ุจุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุงู„ุญุฏูˆุฏุŸ
10:46
PK: It is a universally relevant question, especially again, in the developed,
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ุจุงุฑุงุฌ ุฎุงู†ุง: ุฅู†ู‡ ุณุคุงู„ ุฐูˆ ุตู„ุฉ ุนุงู„ู…ูŠุฉุŒ ุฎุงุตุฉ ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ
10:50
mature Western economies and societies
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ููŠ ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏุงุช ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุนุงุช ุงู„ุบุฑุจูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชู‚ุฏู…ุฉ ูˆ ุงู„ู†ุงุถุฌุฉ
10:53
that have had a lot of friction and a lot of backlash
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุดู‡ุฏุช ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู†ุงู„ุงุญุชูƒุงูƒ ูˆุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุฑุฏูˆุฏ ุงู„ูุนู„ ุงู„ุนู†ูŠูุฉ.
10:56
and caution about large-scale immigration,
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ูˆ ุงู„ุญุฐุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ูˆุงุณุนุฉ ุงู„ู†ุทุงู‚ุŒ
10:59
at least in the last, say, 10, 15 years.
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ุŒ 10 ุฃูˆ 15 ุณู†ุฉ.
11:03
And that's the US, Canada, you know, Western European countries, Japan,
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ูˆูƒู†ุฏุง ูˆ ุฏูˆู„ ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจุง ุงู„ุบุฑุจูŠุฉูˆ ุงู„ูŠุงุจุงู†ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ุŒ
11:07
all of them are changing to some degree.
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ูƒู„ู‡ุง ุชุชุบูŠุฑ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญุฏ ู…ุง.
11:10
The question is how rapidly?
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ูˆุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ู‡ูˆู…ุงู…ุฏู‰ ุงู„ุณุฑุนุฉุŸ
11:11
You know, Canada really stands out as a country that's welcoming in,
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ุชุจุฑุฒ ูƒู†ุฏุง ุญู‚ุง ูƒุจู„ุฏ ู…ุฑุญุจุŒ
11:15
as I mentioned before, you know, 400,000 people a year,
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ูƒู…ุง ุฐูƒุฑุช ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ 400ุŒ000 ุดุฎุต ุณู†ูˆูŠุงุŒ
11:17
one percent of its population, as a target growth.
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ูˆุงุญุฏ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุงุฆุฉ ู…ู† ุณูƒุงู†ู‡ุงุŒ ูƒู†ู…ูˆ ู…ุณุชู‡ุฏู.
11:20
But the US, you know, as bureaucratic as it is,
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ุจูŠุฑูˆู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุญุงู„
11:23
as contentious as it is,
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ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุฌุฏู„ ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูŠุŒ
11:25
and the fact that during the Trump years,
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ูˆ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุฃู†ู‡ ุฎู„ุงู„ ุณู†ูˆุงุชุฑุฆุงุณุฉ ุชุฑุงู…ุจุŒ
11:29
immigration began to decline and then because of COVID, you know,
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ุจุฏุฃุช ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุงู†ุฎูุงุถ ุซู… ุจุณุจุจูƒูˆููŠุฏุŒ
11:32
became even harder.
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ุฃุตุจุญุช ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุตุนูˆุจุฉ.
11:33
But let me tell you something very special about America.
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ูˆ ู„ูƒู† ุฏุนูˆู†ูŠ ุฃุฎุจุฑูƒู… ุดูŠุฆุง ู…ู…ูŠุฒุง ุฌุฏุง ุนู† ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง.
11:36
This year, according to a congressional delegation I just hosted in Singapore,
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ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุงู…ุŒ ูˆูู‚ุง ู„ูˆูุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ูƒูˆู†ุบุฑุณ ุงุณุชุถูุชู‡ ู„ู„ุชูˆ ููŠ ุณู†ุบุงููˆุฑุฉุŒ
11:40
the US will probably have one million new migrants this year.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุญุชู…ู„ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏู‰ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ู…ู„ูŠูˆู†ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑุฌุฏูŠุฏ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุงู….
11:44
One million.
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ู…ู„ูŠูˆู†.
11:46
I want to be absolutely clear.
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ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ุฃูƒูˆู† ูˆุงุถุญุง ุชู…ุงู…ุง.
11:47
No country on Earth goes from 200,000 to one million overnight by design.
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ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุจู„ุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ูˆุฌู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ูŠู†ุชู‚ู„ ู…ู† 200ุŒ000 ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ู„ูŠูˆู† ุจูŠู† ุนุดูŠุฉ ูˆุถุญุงู‡ุงุนู† ู‚ุตุฏ.
11:54
And that's America, right?
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ู‡ูŠ ุฃู…ูŠุฑูƒุงุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
11:56
So everything that's not gone well in immigration can be fixed
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒู„ ู…ุง ู„ู… ูŠู…ุถ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุฑุงู… ููŠ ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฅุตู„ุงุญู‡
12:00
and positively overcompensated by the kinds of reforms
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ูˆ ุชุนูˆูŠุถู‡ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฅูŠุฌุงุจูŠ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุฃู†ูˆุงุน ุงู„ุฅุตู„ุงุญุงุช
12:04
that are underway today: H-1B reforms, refugee reforms,
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ุงู„ุฌุงุฑูŠุฉ ุงู„ูŠูˆู…:ุฅุตู„ุงุญุงุช H-1BุŒ ุฅุตู„ุงุญุงุช ุงู„ู„ุงุฌุฆูŠู†ุŒ
12:08
skilled migration reforms, digitizing immigration,
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ุฅุตู„ุงุญุงุชู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุงู„ูƒูุงุกุงุชุŒ ุฑู‚ู…ู†ุฉ ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉุŒ
12:11
carrying over a certain,
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ู†ู‚ู„ ุจุนุถุŒ
12:13
you know, frozen quotas from the past.
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ุงู„ุญุตุต ุงู„ู…ุฌู…ุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุŒูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†.
12:15
All of these things are actually happening.
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ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุชุญุฏุซ ุจุงู„ูุนู„.
12:17
Should it have happened years ago? Yes.
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ู‡ู„ ูˆุฌุจ ุฃู† ูŠุญุฏุซ ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุจู„ ุณู†ูˆุงุชุŸ ู†ุนู….
12:19
Should it be happening faster? Yes.
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ู‡ู„ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ูŠุญุฏุซ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃุณุฑุนุŸ ู†ุนู….
12:21
Should immigration policy be done in a way in which we focus
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ู‡ู„ ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ุฃู† ุชุชู… ุณูŠุงุณุฉ ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉู†ุฑูƒุฒ ุจู‡ุง
12:24
on the shortages in our labor force, which are so many?
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุต ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู‰ ุงู„ุนุงู…ู„ุฉ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุงุŒ ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุซูŠุฑุฉ ุฌุฏุงุŸ
12:28
We're hurting our own economy by having such a slow immigration process.
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ู†ุญู† ู†ุถุฑ ุจุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏู†ุง ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุจุทูŠุฆุฉ ู„ู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ.
12:32
We should have done all of this a lot earlier and to a larger degree,
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ูƒุงู† ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ู„ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ูุนู„ ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐุง ููŠ ูˆู‚ุช ุฃุจูƒุฑุจูƒุซูŠุฑ ูˆุจุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุฃูƒุจุฑุŒ
12:36
and this would have depoliticized immigration.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู…ู† ุดุฃู†ู‡ ุฃู† ูŠู†ุฒุน ุงู„ุทุงุจุน ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠ ุนู† ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ.
12:39
So it's been to our own detriment.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒู„ุบูŠุฑู…ุตู„ุญุชู†ุงุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉ.
12:41
But can America actually fix these things faster than than we, you know,
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ูˆ ู„ูƒู† ู‡ู„ ุชุณุชุทูŠุน ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง ูุนู„ุง ุฅุตู„ุงุญ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃุณุฑุน ู…ู…ุง ูƒู†ุงุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ
12:46
very rightly, cynically,
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ุจุดูƒู„ ุตุญูŠุญุŒุนู„ู‰ู†ุญูˆ ุณุงุฎุฑุŒ
12:47
especially if you've been on the wrong side of the immigration story
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ุฎุงุตุฉ ุฅุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ุนู„ู‰ุงู„ุฌุงู†ุจ ุงู„ุฎุทุฃ ู…ู†ู‚ุตุฉ ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ
12:50
and you've failed to cross a T on a form and it sets you back like, two years,
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ู‚ุฏ ูุดู„ุช ููŠูˆุถุนุงู„ู„ู…ุณุงุช ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉุนู„ู‰ ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ูˆ ูŠูƒู„ููƒ ุฐู„ูƒ ุนูˆุฏุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ูˆุฑุงุกุŒ ูƒุนุงู…ูŠู†ุŒ
12:55
you know, you're rightly angry and cynical about it.
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ุŒ ุฃู†ุช ู…ุญู‚ ููŠ ุงู„ุบุถุจ ูˆุงู„ุณุฎุฑูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒ.
12:57
I mean, I'm an immigrant myself, I didn't move to America till I was six.
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ุฃุนู†ูŠุŒ ุฃู†ุง ู†ูุณูŠ ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑุŒ ู„ู… ุฃู†ุชู‚ู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง ุญุชู‰ ูƒู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ุณุงุฏุณุฉ ู…ู† ุนู…ุฑูŠ
13:01
I remember becoming a citizen, I know my parents sweated that paperwork,
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ุฃุชุฐูƒุฑ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃุตุจุญุช ู…ูˆุงุทู†ู‹ุงุŒ ุฃุนุฑู ุฃู† ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ุฅู†ุชุธุฑุง ูƒุซูŠุฑุงุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑุงู‚ุŒ
13:04
I watched them do it.
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ูˆ ุดุงู‡ุฏุชู‡ู…ุง ูŠูุนู„ุงู†ุฐู„ูƒ.
13:06
But these things can be fixed
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฅุตู„ุงุญู‡ุง
13:09
and no one can fix it like America can, that's for sure.
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ูˆ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ุฃุญุฏ ุฅุตู„ุงุญู‡ุง ูƒู…ุง ุชุณุชุทูŠุน ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุงุฃู…ุฑ ู…ุคูƒุฏ.
13:11
So there's a lot of hope in that.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃู…ู„ ููŠ ุฐู„ูƒ.
13:13
And again, European countries are changing.
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ูˆู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจูŠุฉ ุขุฎุฐุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุบูŠุฑ.
13:15
Germany brought in, you know, more than a million,
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒุฃู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุง ุฌู„ุจุช ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ู…ู„ูŠูˆู†
13:17
again, not by design, not intentionally, but think about the Syrian refugee crisis.
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ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ู„ูŠุณ ุนู…ุฏุงุŒ ูˆู„ูŠุณ ุนู† ู‚ุตุฏุŒูˆู„ูƒู† ููƒุฑ ููŠ ุฃุฒู…ุฉ ุงู„ู„ุงุฌุฆูŠู† ุงู„ุณูˆุฑูŠูŠู†.
13:22
More than a million people arrived in Germany.
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ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ู…ู„ูŠูˆู† ุดุฎุต ูˆุตู„ูˆุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุง.
13:24
A lot of them have stayed.
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ุจู‚ูŠ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู†ู‡ู….
13:26
More are coming now from Ukraine.
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ูˆ ูŠุฃุชูŠ ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ุงู„ุขู† ู…ู†ุฃูˆูƒุฑุงู†ูŠุง.
13:28
And they've managed their politics
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ูˆ ู‚ุฏ ุชู…ูƒู†ูˆุง ู…ู† ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุณูŠุงุณุงุชู‡ู…
13:32
to fend off, you know, right-wing populist parties.
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ู„ุตุฏ ุงู„ุฃุญุฒุงุจ ุงู„ุดุนุจูˆูŠุฉ ุงู„ูŠู…ูŠู†ูŠุฉ.
13:35
They have a center-left coalition right now.
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ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุชุญุงู„ู ูŠุณุงุฑุงู„ูˆุณุท ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุญุงู„ูŠ.
13:37
So Canada, the US, Germany, the UK, despite Brexit,
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ู„ุฐุง ูƒู†ุฏุงุŒุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุงุŒุฃู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุงุŒุงู„ู…ู…ู„ูƒุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฑุบู… ู…ู† ุฎุฑูˆุฌ ุจุฑูŠุทุงู†ูŠุงู…ู†ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจุง
13:41
it's easier to move to the UK today than during Brexit.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู‡ู„ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุงู„ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ู…ู„ูƒุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ู…ู‚ุงุฑู†ุฉ ุจุญูŠู†ู‡ุง.
13:43
Iโ€™m not sure people realize this.
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ู„ุณุช ู…ุชุฃูƒุฏู‹ุง ู…ู† ุฃู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠุฏุฑูƒูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ.
13:45
Because they again have had massive shortages in nursing and truck drivers,
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ู… ุนุงู†ูˆุง ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ู…ู† ู†ู‚ุต ู‡ุงุฆู„ ููŠุงู„ุชู…ุฑูŠุถ ูˆุณุงุฆู‚ูŠ ุงู„ุดุงุญู†ุงุชุŒ
13:49
you name it.
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ุณู…ู‡ุง ู…ุงุดุฆุช.
13:50
So there's just two kinds of countries in the world,
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ุฅุฐู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู†ูˆุนุงู† ูู‚ุท ู…ู† ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŒ
13:53
those that have realized they need more migrants
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ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุฏุฑูƒุช ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ู„ู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑูŠู†
13:55
and those that haven't, right?
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ูˆ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู„ู… ุชูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒุŒุตุญูŠุญุŸ
13:57
And those in the former category are the smarter ones.
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ูˆ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ูุฆุฉ ุงู„ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฐูƒุงุก.
13:59
And they're going to come out ahead in the war for young talent.
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ูˆุณูˆู ุชุชู‚ุฏู…ููŠ ุงู„ุญุฑุจ ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงู‡ุจ ุงู„ุดุงุจุฉ.
14:02
WPR: TED member Heidi has a question,
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ูˆูŠุชู†ูŠ ุจู†ูŠู†ุฌุชูˆู† ุฑูˆุฏุฌุฑุฒ: ุนุถูˆ ุชูŠุฏ ู‡ุงูŠุฏูŠ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ุณุคุงู„.
14:05
"We've seen that governments and countries veer nationalistic and xenophobic
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โ€œู„ู‚ุฏ ุฑุฃูŠู†ุง ุฃู† ุงู„ุญูƒูˆู…ุงุช ูˆุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุชู†ุญุฑู ุนู†ุงู„ู‚ูˆู…ูŠุฉ ูˆ ูƒุฑุงู‡ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฌุงู†ุจ
14:10
when there are a flood of immigrants.
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ู…ุน ูˆุฌูˆุฏุทูˆูุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑูŠู†.
14:12
How can we future-proof our democratic systems against this reactionary outcome?"
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ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุญู…ุงูŠุฉ ุฃู†ุธู…ุชู†ุง ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุถุฏ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฑุฌุนูŠุฉุŸโ€
14:16
PK: For one thing, you know, I don't posit that immigration itself,
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ุจุงุฑุงุฌ ุฎุงู†ุง:ู„ุณุจุจ ูˆุงุญุฏุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃูุชุฑุถ ุฃู†ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ู†ูุณู‡ุงุŒ
14:20
as in "let the people in," is some kind of panacea.
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ูƒู…ุง ููŠ โ€œุงู„ุณู…ุงุญ ู„ู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุงู„ุฏุฎูˆู„โ€œุŒ ู‡ูŠ ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏูˆุงุกุงู„ุดุงููŠ.
14:23
I am a strong believer in assimilation.
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ุฃู†ุง ู…ุคู…ู† ุจุดุฏุฉ ุจุงู„ุงุณุชูŠุนุงุจ.
14:26
And one of the key things around future proofing
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ูˆุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุชุฏู‚ูŠู‚ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ูŠ
14:28
is maintaining your kind of, national ethos,
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ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุญูุงุธ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ูˆุนูƒ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑูˆุญ ุงู„ูˆุทู†ูŠุฉ
14:31
national identity, national culture.
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ูˆ ุงู„ู‡ูˆูŠุฉ ุงู„ูˆุทู†ูŠุฉ ูˆ ุงู„ุซู‚ุงูุฉ ุงู„ูˆุทู†ูŠุฉ.
14:33
But culture doesn't mean the way things were for the last 400 years,
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุซู‚ุงูุฉ ู„ุง ุชุนู†ูŠ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุทูŠู„ุฉุงู„ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุงู„400 ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุฉุŒ
14:38
and it's never allowed to change from that, right?
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ูˆ ู„ุง ูŠูุณู…ุญ ู„ู‡ุง ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ุจุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุนู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุตุญูŠุญุŸ
14:41
That's a very archaic, you know,
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ู‡ุฐุง ู†ู‡ุฌ ู‚ุฏูŠู… ุฌุฏุงุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ
14:44
ethnically and sort of, chauvinistic approach to the issue.
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ุนุฑู‚ูŠุง ูˆู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุงุŒ ุดูˆููŠู†ูŠ ุชุฌุงู‡ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุถูŠุฉ.
14:47
Culture is valuable.
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ุงู„ุซู‚ุงูุฉ ู‚ูŠู…ุฉ.
14:49
Culture evolves, culture changes.
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ุงู„ุซู‚ุงูุฉ ุชุชุทูˆุฑุŒ ูˆ ุงู„ุซู‚ุงูุฉ ุชุชุบูŠุฑ.
14:51
If you look at a country like Canada,
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ุฅุฐุง ู†ุธุฑุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุจู„ุฏ ู…ุซู„ ูƒู†ุฏุงุŒ
14:53
again, multiculturalism is the identity of the country.
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ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุŒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ุชุนุฏุฏูŠุฉ ุงู„ุซู‚ุงููŠุฉ ู‡ูŠ ู‡ูˆูŠุฉ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏ.
14:56
The UK is changing its rules to make it easier to come in.
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.ุงู„ู…ู…ู„ูƒุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุชุบูŠุฑ ู‚ูˆุงุนุฏู‡ุง ู„ุชุณู‡ูŠู„ ุงู„ุฏุฎูˆู„.
14:59
That's a fact.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ.
15:01
It's a legal fact that you can now come into the UK without a job offer,
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ู‚ุงู†ูˆู†ูŠุฉ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู„ุขู† ุงู„ู‚ุฏูˆู… ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ู…ู„ูƒุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุฏูˆู† ุนุฑุถ ุนู…ู„ุŒ
15:05
without paying a security bond.
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ุฏูˆู† ุฏูุน ุณู†ุฏ ุถู…ุงู†.
15:07
We've got these massive immigration reforms.
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ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุฅุตู„ุงุญุงุช ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุงู„ุถุฎู…ุฉ ู‡ุฐู‡.
15:09
So, Japan, there have never been as many foreigners in Japan
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุงู„ูŠุงุจุงู†ุŒ ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ุนุฏุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฌุงู†ุจ ููŠ ุงู„ูŠุงุจุงู†
15:12
as there are today.
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ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุญุงู„ ุงู„ูŠูˆู….
15:13
So even in a place that we think of as very culturally insular, right,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุญุชู‰ ููŠ ู…ูƒุงู† ู†ููƒุฑ ููŠู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ุนุฒูˆู„ ุซู‚ุงููŠุง ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉุŒ ุตุญูŠุญุŒ
15:18
even there, you've got a large-scale migration.
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ุญุชู‰ ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŒู„ุฏูŠูƒ ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ูˆุงุณุนุฉ ุงู„ู†ุทุงู‚.
15:20
So there is zero, zero truth to the statement
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ุง ุชูˆุฌุฏ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ูˆุฃูŠ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ู„ู„ู‚ูˆู„
15:25
that the world is governed by right wing,
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ุจุฃู† ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ูŠุญูƒู…ู‡ ุดุนุจูˆูŠูˆู† ูŠู…ูŠู†ูŠูˆู†
15:27
xenophobic populists that are anti-immigrant.
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ูƒุงุฑู‡ูˆู†ู„ู„ุฃุฌุงู†ุจ ู…ุนุงุฏูˆู† ู„ู„ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑูŠู†.
15:30
It is precisely the exact factual opposite of that, right?
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุชุญุฏูŠุฏุง ุนูƒุณ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุงู„ุถุจุทุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
15:33
The important countries of the world
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ูˆ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุงู„ู‡ุงู…ุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…
15:35
are governed by pragmatic leaders
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ูŠุญูƒู…ู‡ุง ู‚ุงุฏุฉ ุจุฑุงุบู…ุงุชูŠูˆู†
15:38
that are recognizing the importance of large-scale immigration
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ูŠุฏุฑูƒูˆู† ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุงู„ูˆุงุณุนุฉ ุงู„ู†ุทุงู‚
15:41
as part of their economic health and their social dynamism.
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ูƒุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุตุญุชู‡ู… ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏูŠุฉ ูˆ ุฏูŠู†ุงู…ูŠุชู‡ู… ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุฉ.
15:44
That is how the important countries in the world are run today.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฏุงุฑ ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุงู„ู…ู‡ู…ุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ูŠูˆู….
15:47
That's the way they have been run for 75 years.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฏุงุฑ ุจู‡ุง ู…ู†ุฐ 75 ุนุงู…ุง.
15:50
If that weren't true, we wouldn't be having this conversation
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ุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุตุญูŠุญุงุŒ ู„ู… ู†ูƒู† ู„ู†ุญุธู‰ ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุญุงุฏุซุฉ
15:53
because, you know, all of us who are migrants wouldn't have migrated.
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ุงุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ุฌู…ูŠุนู†ุงุŒ ู†ุญู†ุงู„ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑูˆู† ู„ู… ู†ูƒู† ู„ู†ู‡ุงุฌุฑ.
15:56
We never would have been let in.
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ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู„ูŠุณู…ุญ ู„ู†ุง ุจุงู„ุฏุฎูˆู„.
15:58
WPR: There are some people who may push back on that, right,
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ูˆูŠุชู†ูŠ:ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู‚ุฏ ูŠุชุฑุงุฌุนูˆู†ุนู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุตุญูŠุญุŒ
16:01
and say that, well, we still see struggles with inequality
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ูˆ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฃู†ุŒุญุณู†ุงุŒ ู…ุง ุฒู„ู†ุง ู†ุฑู‰ ุตุฑุงุนุงุช ู…ุน ุนุฏู… ุงู„ู…ุณุงูˆุงุฉุŒ
16:04
and that, you know, things are not fair and great
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ูˆุฃู† ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุŒ ู„ูŠุณุช ุนุงุฏู„ุฉ ูˆ ุนุธูŠู…ุฉ
16:06
for people who do come to those countries.
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ู„ู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠุฃุชูˆู†ุฅู„ู‰ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู†.
16:09
And I wonder if there are specific things that you think could be done better
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ูˆ ุฃุชุณุงุกู„ ุนู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃุดูŠุงุกู…ุญุฏุฏุฉ ุชุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ุง ุจุดูƒู„ุฃูุถู„
16:13
even in those spaces,
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ุญุชู‰ ููŠ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุณุงุญุงุชุŒ
16:14
but that are really success stories
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ูˆ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ู‚ุตุต ู†ุฌุงุญ ุญู‚ุง
16:17
that I think nations that are looking to invite people in
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุชุทู„ุน ุฅู„ู‰ ุฏุนูˆุฉ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุฅู„ูŠู‡ุง
16:21
can really take on to ensure that everyone does feel
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชุชุญู…ู„ู‡ุง ุญู‚ุงู„ุถู…ุงู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุนูŠุดุนุฑูˆู†
16:24
like they have a good life.
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ูˆ ูƒุฃู†ู‡ู… ูŠุชู…ุชุนูˆู† ุจุญูŠุงุฉ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ.
16:27
PK: There are really good lessons learned,
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ุจุงุฑุงุฌ ุฎุงู†ุง: ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญู‚ุง ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ ู…ุณุชูุงุฏุฉุŒ
16:29
and this is not pie-in-the-sky thinking.
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ู„ูŠุณ ุชููƒูŠุฑุง ู…ุจุงู„ุบ ุจู‡ ูˆู„ูŠุณ ุณูˆู‰ ูˆู‡ู….
16:31
This is one of the major areas of political social research,
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู„ุงุช ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุจุญุซ ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุŒ
16:36
which is to say, what can we do?
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠุŒ ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู†ู†ูุนู„ุŸ
16:38
So if you look at smaller European countries like,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฅุฐุง ู†ุธุฑุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฃุตุบุฑู…ุซู„
16:41
let's say the Netherlands, right,
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ุฏุนู†ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏุงุŒ ุตุญูŠุญุŒ
16:42
they have a really strong language adoption policy.
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ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุณูŠุงุณุฉุชุจู†ูŠ ู„ุบุฉ ู‚ูˆูŠุฉ ุญู‚ุง.
16:45
There is no way you'll get Dutch citizenship unless you've learned Dutch,
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ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุณุชุญูŠู„ ุฃู† ุชุญุตู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฌู†ุณูŠุฉ ุงู„ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏูŠุฉ ุฅู„ุง ุฅุฐุง ุชุนู„ู…ุช ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏูŠุฉ
16:49
for example.
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ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„.
16:51
And Germany is making this clear as well in a much larger country,
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ูˆุฃู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุง ุชูˆุถุญ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃูŠุถุง ููŠ ุจู„ุฏ ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑุŒ
16:54
which is, you know, you definitely have to learn German.
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ูˆู‡ูˆุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ุŒ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ุจุงู„ุชุฃูƒูŠุฏ ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉุงู„ุฃู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ.
16:57
And I think that's actually pretty important.
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ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู…ู‡ู… ุฌุฏุง.
16:59
I don't seek to suppress people's original, you know,
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ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃุณุนู‰ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‚ู…ุน ู‡ูˆูŠุงุช ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุฃุตู„ูŠุฉ
17:03
identities and their languages.
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒูˆ ู„ุบุงุชู‡ู….
17:05
But it is a fact that if you actually want to not be a burden
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ู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุฃู†ู‡ ุฅุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ุชุฑูŠุฏ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุฃู„ุง ุชูƒูˆู† ุนุจุฆุง
17:10
on your host society,
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ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุฌุชู…ุนูƒ ุงู„ู…ุถูŠูุŒ
17:11
but actually be a contributor and be welcomed by, liked by,
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ูˆ ู„ูƒู† ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุณุงู‡ู…ุง ูˆุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุญุจูˆุจูˆ ู…ูˆุถุน ุชุฑุญูŠุจ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„
17:14
respected by all segments of the society that is your new home,
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ูˆ ู…ุญุชุฑู… ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุดุฑุงุฆุญุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ู†ุฒู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุŒ
17:18
you will do a much better job of it if you learn the language.
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ูˆุณูˆูุชู‚ูˆู… ุจุนู…ู„ ุฃูุถู„ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑ ุฅุฐุงุชุนู„ู…ุช ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ.
17:21
And this is like, you know, the kind of thing weโ€™d say, OK, well,
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู…ุซู„ ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ู†ูˆุน ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠู†ู‚ูˆู„ู‡ุŒ ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ุญุณู†ุงุŒ
17:25
can't we spend a few bucks on that?
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ู‡ู„ ู„ู†ุง ุจุฅู†ูุงู‚ ุจุถุนุฉุฏูˆู„ุงุฑุงุช ุนู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒุŸ
17:26
You know, how about we allocate some money to do some language training,
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ู…ุงุฐุง ุนู† ุชุฎุตูŠุต ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ุงู„ ู„ู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุจุนุถ ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุจุงู„ู„ุบูˆูŠุŒ
17:30
and that would actually go a really long way.
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ู† ุดุฃู†ู‡ ุฃู† ูŠู‚ุทุน ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุดูˆุทุง ุทูˆูŠู„ุง ุญู‚ุง.
17:32
So jobs, skills, education, language, public housing.
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ูƒุฐู„ูƒุงู„ูˆุธุงุฆููˆ ุงู„ู…ู‡ุงุฑุงุช ูˆ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ูˆ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ูˆ ุงู„ุฅุณูƒุงู† ุงู„ุนุงู….
17:37
So, this is something thatโ€™s done in Singapore, where I live right now.
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ู„ุฐุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุดูŠุก ูŠุชู… ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ ููŠ ุณู†ุบุงููˆุฑุฉุŒ ุญูŠุซ ุฃุนูŠุด ุงู„ุขู†.
17:41
You know, you've got universal public housing.
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ุŒ ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฅุณูƒุงู† ุนุงู… ุดุงู…ู„.
17:44
And if we did more around affordable housing,
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ูˆุฅุฐุง ูุนู„ู†ุง ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุฅุณูƒุงู† ุงู„ู…ูŠุณูˆุฑ ุงู„ุชูƒู„ูุฉุŒ
17:46
that would diminish the inequality,
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ูุฅู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ู† ุดุฃู†ู‡ ุฃู† ูŠู‚ู„ู„ ู…ู† ุนุฏู… ุงู„ู…ุณุงูˆุงุฉุŒ
17:49
and inequality obviously skews in many countries,
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุงุถุญ ุฃู† ุนุฏู… ุงู„ู…ุณุงูˆุงุฉ ูŠุดูˆู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู†ุŒ
17:52
in immigrant societies,
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ููŠ ู…ุฌุชู…ุนุงุช ุงู„ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑูŠู†ุŒ
17:53
towards the newly-arrived people who don't have the economic means.
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ุชุฌุงู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ูˆุงูุฏูŠู† ุญุฏูŠุซุง ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู„ุง ูŠู…ู„ูƒูˆู† ุงู„ูˆุณุงุฆู„ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏูŠุฉ.
17:57
So well, we can fix that, right?
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ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฅุตู„ุงุญ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
17:59
I mean, there's a physical solution to inadequate public housing.
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ุฃุนู†ูŠ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญู„ุง ู…ุงุฏูŠุง ู„ู„ุณูƒู† ุงู„ุนุงู… ุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู„ุงุฆู….
18:02
It's called building more housing, right?
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ูŠุทู„ู‚ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุจู†ุงุก ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุณุงูƒู†ุŒ ุตุญูŠุญุŸ
18:04
And you know, if you look at places again, like Canada,
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ูˆูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ุŒ ุฅุฐุง ู†ุธุฑุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ู…ุฑุฉุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ู…ุซู„ ูƒู†ุฏุง
18:08
the Netherlands, France, this is happening in Finland.
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ูˆ ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏุง ูˆ ูุฑู†ุณุงุŒูุฅู† ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ููŠ ูู†ู„ู†ุฏุง.
18:12
Lots of countries are building lots more affordable housing
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ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุชุจู†ูŠุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุณุงูƒู† ุจุฃุณุนุงุฑ ู…ุนู‚ูˆู„ุฉ
18:15
and it's actually helping to change some of the local tensions.
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ูˆ ู‡ูˆ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ูŠุณุงุนุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุจุนุถุงู„ุชูˆุชุฑุงุช ุงู„ู…ุญู„ูŠุฉ.
18:19
So these answers emerge not from pie-in-the-sky thinking,
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ู„ุฐุง ูุฅู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฅุฌุงุจุงุช ู„ุง ุชู†ุจุซู‚ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ุจุงู„ุบ ุจู‡
18:22
but from the real experience of real countries.
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ุจู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจุฉุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุฉ.
18:25
And there are real policymakers and journalists
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ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุตุงู†ุนูˆ ุณูŠุงุณุงุช ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠูˆู† ูˆุตุญููŠูˆู†
18:28
and civil servants who have done these things.
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ูˆ ู…ูˆุธููˆู† ู…ุฏู†ูŠูˆู† ู‚ุงู…ูˆุง ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก.
18:31
It's good news that there's really a pretty clear road map
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญู‚ุง ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ ุทุฑูŠู‚ ูˆุงุถุญุฉ ุฌุฏุง
18:34
on how to do this and how to make people feel welcome
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ุญูˆู„ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ูˆ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠุดุนุฑูˆู† ุจุงู„ุชุฑุญูŠุจ
18:37
and how to have everyone again, be better off.
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ูˆูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุฌุนู„ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุน ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ุฃูุถู„ ุญุงู„ุง.
18:40
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ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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