Advanced English Conversation: Vocabulary, Grammar, Pronunciation

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Vanessa: Guess what? We are going to have a baby,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋งž์ถฐ๋ด? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ,
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another baby. Dan:ย 
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Yay. Vanessa:ย 
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Today I am here with my husband, Dan. Dan:ย 
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์˜ˆ. Vanessa:
์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋‚จํŽธ Dan๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Hello. Vanessa:ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
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And we are going to give you a real Englishย  conversation. I know that a lot of you loveย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง„์งœ ์˜์–ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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these conversations. It's a great way to levelย  up your listening skills and just have a goodย ย 
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. ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ 
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time with English. And we have somethingย  special Today. We asked you what questionsย ย 
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์˜์–ด์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ
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you have for us about baby number three.ย  And boy oh boy, did you deliver? Ha ha ha.ย 
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๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  boy oh boy, ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์–ด? ํ•˜ํ•˜ํ•˜.
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Dan: Boy oh boy. I don't know about that.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ณด์ด ์˜ค ๋ณด์ด. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค.
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Vanessa: Girl oh girl. Did you deliver? We have-ย 
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Vanessa: ์†Œ๋…€ ์˜ค ์†Œ๋…€. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”-
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Dan: Hello girl.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
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Vanessa: 12 questions that you askedย ย 
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Vanessa:
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us about our third baby and our lives. And we'reย  going to answer them, starting with the categoryย ย 
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์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„๊ธฐ์™€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹  12๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž„์‹ ์˜ ๋ฒ”์ฃผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ
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of pregnancy, then going on to birth, and thenย  going on to life with three children. So I hopeย ย 
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์ถœ์‚ฐ์„ ๊ฑฐ์ณ ์„ธ ์ž๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ถ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
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you enjoy this lesson. Like always, I have createdย  a free PDF worksheet, which is now covering Dan'sย ย 
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์ด ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ธฐ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด์ œ Dan์˜ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋ฎ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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face. That includes all of today's questions.ย  Some of the key vocabulary that you're goingย ย 
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. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์–ดํœ˜ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€
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to see come up on the screen here, and that willย  help you to be able to follow our conversation.ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ
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You can click on the link in the description toย  download that free PDF worksheet today. It isย ย 
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์„ค๋ช…์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
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our gift to you. You are also welcome to clickย  CC so that you can view the full subtitles forย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜ ์ „์ฒด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก CC๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์…”๋„ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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our conversation. I have these questions, but weย  haven't chatted about it at all. This is all justย ย 
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. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘
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spontaneous. Dan:ย 
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์ž๋ฐœ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
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Going in fresh. Vanessa:ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
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Yeah, just off the cuff. So I don't know what'sย  going to happen. I hope it will be interesting andย ย 
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๋„ค, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊บผ๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ 
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useful to you, but if there's any vocabulary orย  anything that might be new for you, you can clickย ย 
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๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์…จ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์šฉ์–ด๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
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CC and view the full subtitles. All right. Areย  you ready to get started with the first category,ย ย 
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CC๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์ „์ฒด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ฒ”์ฃผ์ธ ์ž„์‹ ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”
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pregnancy? Dan:ย 
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? Dan:
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I'm so ready. Vanessa:ย 
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์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
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Okay. Well, I got a big old belly that's ready toย  talk about pregnancy. Let's talk about the firstย ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž„์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋œ ํฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . Olga์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค
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question, which comes from Olga. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
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Olga. Vanessa:ย 
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Well, you might or might not know that weย  have a name for our baby. First of all,ย ย 
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์˜ฌ๊ฐ€. Vanessa:
์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๊ธฐ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ์„ ,
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is our baby a boy or a girl? Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์•„๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๋”ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
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She's a girl. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์—ฌ์ž์•ผ. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
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Yes. So we have a five-year-old boy, aย  three-year-old boy, and now we're going to haveย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” 5์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ ๋‚จ์ž์•„์ด์™€ 3์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ ๋‚จ์ž์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
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a third child who's a girl. Very exciting. Dan:ย 
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์—ฌ์ž์•„์ด์ธ ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Yay. Vanessa:ย 
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And she has a name. Dan:ย 
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์˜ˆ. Vanessa:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Yes. What is it? Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋ญ์•ผ? Vanessa:
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Well, Olga's question is about that. Dan:ย 
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์Œ, Olga์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Oh. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค. Vanessa:
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She says, I love the name you chose, Matilda. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ ํƒํ•œ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Matilda. ๋Œ„:
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Matilda. Vanessa:ย 
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๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
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She said Matilda is my favorite Roald Dahlย  book for children. Did you have any specificย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” Matilda๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” Roald Dahl ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด ์ฑ…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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inspiration when choosing this beautiful name?ย  Thank you, Olga. So yeah, what do you think? Didย ย 
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์ด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์„ ํƒํ•  ๋•Œ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์˜๊ฐ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‚˜์š”? ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ, ์˜ฌ๊ฐ€. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด?
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we have any inspiration for choosing this name? Dan:ย 
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์ด ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ณ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
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No, not really. I don't know if you did, but soย  my process was to look at the most popular names,ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ธ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„,
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the top 1000, basically. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ์œ„ 1000๊ฐœ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
02:45
1000? Dan:ย 
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Yes. I scrolled through all of them and I justย  wrote down the ones that I liked. And I sawย ย 
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1000? ๋Œ„:
๋„ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์„ ์Šคํฌ๋กคํ•˜์—ฌ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“œ๋Š” ํ•ญ๋ชฉ๋งŒ ์ ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
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Matilda and I thought, "Hmm, that's a prettyย  cool name, but I don't think Vanessa will likeย ย 
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Matilda๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์Œ, ๊ฝค ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ด๋ฆ„์ธ๋ฐ Vanessa๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
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it." So I wrote down, I don't know, 25 names andย  that Vanessa does the same thing and she writesย ย 
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." ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ 25๊ฐœ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ ์—ˆ๊ณ  Vanessa๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
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down two names. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‘ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
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I said no to a lot of names. Dan:ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๊ฑฐ์ ˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
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She wrote down two names. One wasย  Louise and the other one was Matilda.ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” Louise์ด๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” Matilda์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:12
Vanessa: Yep.ย 
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03:12
Dan: And I was like,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”
03:13
"Matilda, really?" Vanessa:ย 
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"๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค, ์ •๋ง?" ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
03:14
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
03:15
And I was like, "Why?" And I don't even know ifย  you had a good answer. Well, I mean, there is noย ย 
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"์™œ?" ๋‹ต๋ณ€์ด ์ž˜ ๋˜์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์ œ ๋ง์€,
03:20
good answer. What is your answer? Because- Vanessa:ย 
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์ข‹์€ ๋‹ต์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€? ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด- Vanessa:
03:23
I don't know. Dan:ย 
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03:23
I didn't even decide it. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”. Dan:
๊ฒฐ์ •๋„ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
03:24
I think what sold me on the name was not so muchย  the full name, but I really like the nickname,ย ย 
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์ €๋ฅผ ํŒ”์•˜๋˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ์ „์ฒด ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ Tilly๋ผ๋Š” ๋ณ„๋ช…์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:29
which is Tilly. I think Matildaย  in English, it sounds very strong.ย ย 
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. Matilda๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋กœ, ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:35
It's not an extremely feminine name, but I feelย  like the nickname Tilly is very cute. This isย ย 
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์•„์ฃผ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํ‹ธ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๋Š” ์• ์นญ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ท€์—ฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
03:43
a absolutely unknown in the US. Itย  is so unusual in the US. But it's-ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ด๋ก€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด-
03:48
Dan: To be called Matilda.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ.
03:49
Vanessa: To be called Matilda or Tilly. I thinkย ย 
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Vanessa: Matilda ๋˜๋Š” Tilly๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—
03:52
in the US on those lists, it was like... Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ ๋ชฉ๋ก์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜... Dan:
03:54
It's in 400s. Vanessa:ย 
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400๋…„๋Œ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
03:56
Number, 400. It was not popular at all. But inย  the UK, Australia, a bunch of Nordic countries,ย ย 
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๋ฒˆํ˜ธ, 400. ์ „ํ˜€ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜๊ตญ, ํ˜ธ์ฃผ, ๋ถ์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ๋Š” ํ†ฑ
04:02
it was top 20. I was so surprised. So I don't knowย  why the US is lagging behind, but we are here-ย 
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20์œ„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ๋’ค์ณ์ง€๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
Dan: We always are.ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:10
Vanessa: Bring back Matilda and it's a old-fashioned name,ย ย 
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Vanessa: Matilda๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐ๋ ค์˜ค๋ฉด ๊ตฌ์‹ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๋˜๊ณ 
04:14
and our other kids' names are old-fashioned names. Dan:ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„๋„ ๊ตฌ์‹ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
04:17
Yeah. It definitely fits in with the other names. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด๋ฆ„๊ณผ ์ž˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
04:19
Theodore, Frederick, Matilda. And each name has aย  shortened version, Theo, Freddie Tilly. So it fitย ย 
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ํ…Œ์˜ค๋„๋ฅด, ํ”„๋ ˆ๋“œ๋ฆญ, ๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ ์ด๋ฆ„์—๋Š” Theo, Freddie Tilly๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ถ• ๋ฒ„์ „์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
04:26
the theme of our family. Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
04:27
We like to have big, bold names and then weย  chop them up into smaller names that sound cute?ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๊ณ  ๊ตต์€ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๊ท€์—ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์ด๋ฆ„์œผ๋กœ ์ž˜๋ž๋‚˜์š”?
04:33
Although I think I might call her Matilda a lot. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ Matilda๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์ด ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
04:36
Yeah. We've been calling her Matilda so far. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ Matilda๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
04:38
That that name has grown on me quite a bitย  because at first I was like, it's really strongย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฝค ์ปค์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:44
to Americans. It sounds really strong, I think. Vanessa:ย 
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. ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
04:46
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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04:46
Although most people we've talked to, they'veย  been like, "Matilda's so cute. I love it."ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆˆ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ '๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ท€์—ฌ์›Œ. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์•„.'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:52
Vanessa: Yeah. It's really-ย 
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04:52
Dan: We've gotten reallyย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง-
Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
04:53
good reactions about it, but the more I say itย  and the more I hear my kids say it, especially.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ ์–ป์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŠนํžˆ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:59
Vanessa: Oh, it's so cute when they say it.ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ท€์—ฝ๋‹ค.
05:00
Dan: Say it when Theo and Freddy say,ย ย 
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Dan: Theo์™€ Freddy๊ฐ€
05:02
"Oh, how's Matilda in there?" It's very cute.ย  I think I'm just going to call her Matilda.ย 
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"์˜ค, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ Matilda๋Š” ์–ด๋•Œ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋งํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๋งค์šฐ ๊ท€์—ฝ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
05:08
Vanessa: Yeah, we'll see.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋ณด์ž.
05:09
Dan: Or actually her middle name is May. Soย ย 
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Dan: ๋˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ May์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
05:12
that's actually my grandma's middle name. And soย  we decided to take that and call her Matilda May.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์˜ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ์ด๋ฆ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ Matilda May๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:19
Vanessa: Or Tilly May.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋˜๋Š” Tilly May.
05:21
Dan: Or Tilly May. Yeah. So I'll probablyย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ‹ธ๋ฆฌ ๋ฉ”์ด. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ
05:22
call her all of those things. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
05:23
All right. Let's go on to our next question.ย  Waffa has a question about deciding to have aย ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Waffa๋Š” ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:28
third child. She said- Dan:ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค- ๋Œ„:
05:30
Oh dear. Vanessa:ย 
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05:30
Many families hesitate before deciding toย  have a third child. So was it your case,ย ย 
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์˜ค ์ด๋Ÿฐ. Vanessa:
๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ์…‹์งธ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ฃผ์ €ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์…‹์งธ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ
05:35
did you have any concerns about deciding to haveย  a third child? This is a deeper question. Did weย ย 
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๊ฐ–๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ? ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:40
have any concerns about having a third child? Dan:ย 
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์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
05:43
Well, yes, for sure. Both of us hesitated quite aย  bit. I hesitated less because in my family growingย ย 
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์Œ, ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ฝค ๋ง์„ค์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ์…‹์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ง์„ค์ž„์ด ๋œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:53
up, there were three of us. So actually it'sย  exactly the same as my family's going to be.ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
So I have one brother and one sister, olderย  brother, older sister. I'm in the middle.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‚จ๋™์ƒ ํ•œ ๋ช…๊ณผ ๋ˆ„๋‚˜ ํ•œ ๋ช…, ํ˜•, ๋ˆ„๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ค‘๊ฐ„์— ์žˆ๋‹ค.
06:03
Vanessa: Younger sister.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ.
06:04
Dan: Younger sister. And soย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘์— ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€
06:07
it just seemed natural to me to have threeย  kids in the family. And so I was into theย ย 
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์…‹์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์•„์ด๋””์–ด์— ๋น ์ ธ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:15
idea. And I would've probably been somewhatย  disappointed if we didn't shoot for three.ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 3๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹ค์†Œ ์‹ค๋งํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:20
Vanessa: Sure. Yeah, we talked about that.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
06:21
Dan: But I would've ultimatelyย ย 
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ
06:23
been okay with it because yeah, when you takeย  out a piece of paper and you start writing down,ย ย 
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข…์ด ํ•œ ์žฅ์„ ๊บผ๋‚ด์„œ ์ ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
06:28
why do I want a third kid? And you're like,ย  "I don't even know, this is going to be a lotย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™œ ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ "๋‚˜๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ›จ์”ฌ
06:32
more work and we're going to have to haveย  a minivan forever and stuff like that."ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜์›ํžˆ ๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ๋ฐด๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ."
06:36
Vanessa: And you don't have to deal withย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€
06:38
this well, so it's a lot easier for- Dan:ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž˜ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค- Dan:
06:40
That's another thing altogether. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
06:42
The man to say, "Oh sure, let's have three kids."ย  And for me, I think there is a lot more hesitationย ย 
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"๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์š”. ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์…‹ ๋‚ณ์ž."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ง์„ค์ž„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:47
and I think rightly so. I want to make sure thatย  it's a good decision for our family. I definitelyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์ธ์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ
06:52
hesitate more. And I think that that's very normalย  considering I have to be pregnant. I have to giveย ย 
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๋” ์ฃผ์ €ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž„์‹ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถœ์‚ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:59
birth. I have to breastfeed our child. There'sย  a lot more duties on me and run this businessย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ ๋ชจ์œ ๋ฅผ ๋จน์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์šด์˜
07:07
and take care of our other children. So there's aย  lot of hesitation. But in the end, I think it cameย ย 
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋Œ๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ง์„ค์ž„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ,
07:11
down to the question of what if we chose not to? Would I feel like I was missing out on theย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ ํƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ท€๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ์ง€์˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋†“์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚„๊นŒ์š”
07:19
unknown? And I think a lot of womenย  feel this, that when they haveย ย 
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? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด
07:23
one kid, maybe they expect that they'll have aย  second kid. And then the question of, "Am I done?ย ย 
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ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ๋•Œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Š๋‚€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ "๋‚˜๋Š” ๋๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:29
Am I done having children?" That's a big question.ย  I think a lot of moms that I know feel that reallyย ย 
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์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"๋ผ๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์—„๋งˆ๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
07:35
strongly, am I done? Can I be okay with beingย  done having children? How do I feel about that?ย ย 
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๋๋‚ฌ๋‚˜์š”? ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๋‚ณ์•„๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„๊นŒ์š” ? ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:40
And it's a really tricky question to answer andย  very personal. So if you have only two children,ย ย 
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๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ •๋ง ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กญ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ๋ช…๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
07:46
that can be okay for your family. Our family'sย  choice doesn't have to be the same for everyone.ย ย 
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์˜ ์„ ํƒ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋™์ผํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:52
So yeah, it came down to, well, are we missingย  out on something? I don't know. Let's see.ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์€ ๋ญ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋†“์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”? ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด์ž.
07:58
Dan: Were you shooting for a girlย ย 
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Dan: ์—ฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ดฌ์˜ํ•œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”
08:00
at all? Did you think about that? Vanessa:ย 
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? ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Vanessa:
08:02
I did not think about the gender because I feelย  like when you decide to have a third child,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์„ฑ๋ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
08:07
especially if you have two of the same genderย  like us. We have two boys. You have to want aย ย 
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ํŠนํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์„ฑ๋ณ„์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š” . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋‘ ์•„๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:13
third child because you're going to get a thirdย  child. It can't be about just boy or just girl.ย 
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์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์†Œ๋…„์ด๋‚˜ ์†Œ๋…€์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
Dan: Boy or girl.ย 
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08:18
Vanessa: For us,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์†Œ๋…„์ด๋‚˜ ์†Œ๋…€.
Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋”ธ์ด
08:19
it was a very great, happy surprise to have aย  girl. But I think I would have been just as happy,ย ย 
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์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋†€๋ž๊ณ  ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ํ–‰๋ณตํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:26
less surprised. But I think I would've been justย  as happy to have a boy because the idea for us wasย ย 
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๋œ ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ํ–‰๋ณตํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:33
will this third child complete our family?ย  Instead of will this girl complete ourย ย 
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์ด ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์™„์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ? ๋Œ€์‹  ์ด ์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์™„์„ฑํ• ๊นŒ์š”
08:40
family? So we'll see what Matilda'sย  like. I have no idea. I don't knowย ย 
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? Matilda๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค.
08:43
if my idea of this completing our family willย  be correct if we made a good decision or not.ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ธ๋Š”์ง€ ์—ฌ๋ถ€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์™„์„ฑํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋งž๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:50
Dan: I think it will. That's just me.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์•ผ.
08:51
Vanessa: Yeah, we try.ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:52
Dan: Cherry on top.ย 
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08:52
Vanessa: Try to have some highย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์œ„์— ์ฒด๋ฆฌ.
Vanessa: ํฐ ํฌ๋ง์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์„ธ์š”
08:53
hopes. All right. Let's go to the next question.ย  This question's mainly for me, but you're welcomeย ย 
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. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ €๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
09:00
to have any input. Dan:ย 
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์˜๊ฒฌ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์–ธ์ œ๋“ ์ง€ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
09:01
I'll listen. Vanessa:ย 
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09:01
It is from Chelsea and she says, is this pregnancyย  different from your pregnancy with the boys?ย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์–ด์ค„๊ฒŒ. Vanessa:
Chelsea์—์„œ ์™”๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ž„์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•œ ์ž„์‹ ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ๊ฐ€์š”?
09:08
Well, you were not pregnantย  with any of them, unfortunately.ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋ถˆํ–‰ํžˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์ž„์‹ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:11
Dan: Yes. Very different.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:13
Vanessa: I would say thisย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
09:15
pregnancy is different, but not because she's aย  girl. That's my guess. This pregnancy is differentย ย 
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์ž„์‹ ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ž์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ž„์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
because it's my third pregnancy, and that makesย  it a lot harder. So my body hurts more. My belly'sย ย 
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์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ž„์‹ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํž˜๋“ค์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชธ์ด ๋” ์•„ํ”„๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ฐฐ๋Š”
09:29
a lot bigger than with them. Just everythingย  is harder because it's the third pregnancy.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ž„์‹ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:35
I don't know if it's the same for everyone. I knowย  some people have a very smooth, easy pregnancy.ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ž„์‹ ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:42
For me, this pregnancy is very difficultย  and I'm very ready for it to be finished.ย ย 
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ž„์‹ ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํž˜๋“  ์ผ ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋๋‚ผ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:46
So that's pretty much it. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
09:48
Was the morning sickness about the same though? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์ž…๋ง์€ ๋น„์Šทํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”? Vanessa:
09:50
Yeah, I'd say morning sickness, which is whenย  you feel nauseous during the first trimester.ย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ์ž„์‹  ์ดˆ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฉ”์Šค๊บผ์›€์„ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ์ž…๋ง์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
That was pretty similar.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ๋น„์Šทํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
Dan: Yeah.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
09:58
Vanessa: I think it's just that everything happenedย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์ด
10:00
sooner and my body hurts more in general. Dan:ย 
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๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชธ์ด ๋” ์•„ํŒŒ์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan:
10:05
I have noted that with every child,ย  she complains about her body earlier.ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ถˆํ‰ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:09
Vanessa: Yes. And I think that that'sย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
10:13
very possible. My body is having aย  harder time this time, and that's normal.ย ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ๋ชธ์ด ํž˜๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด๋Š” ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ํ˜„์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:19
So yeah, anyway, it's different. It's harder,ย  but not because she's a girl, I think. All right,ย ย 
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์•”ํŠผ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ์–ด๋ ต์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ž๋ผ์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:24
let's go to the next question. Now, this was oneย  of our most asked questions, and sometimes thisย ย 
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฌป๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์ด
10:33
question can be perceived as rude. But becauseย  I asked my students directly to ask me anything,ย ย 
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์ง์ ‘ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
10:39
it's okay that they ask this, but I wantย  you to be careful when you're talking withย ย 
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์ง€๋งŒ
10:45
a random person who's pregnant. Do not askย  this, but now it's okay. So for those ofย ย 
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์ž„์‹ ํ•œ ์ž„์˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌป์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” . ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ
10:50
you who asked me this question, it's okay.ย  The question is, can you guess what it is?ย 
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์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ง์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
10:55
Dan: Was she an accident or on purpose?ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์˜€๋‚˜์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ณ ์˜์˜€๋‚˜์š”?
10:59
Vanessa: That's it. That's one of the...ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์•ผ. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ...
11:00
Dan: That's the rude way to say it.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์ด๋„ค์š”.
11:02
Vanessa: Yeah. So Gloria asked us in a very nice way,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฆฌ์•„๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์ƒ๋ƒฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:05
she said, "Did you plan this baby or was itย  a surprise?" Surprise is very positive words.ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "์ด ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š” ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์„œํ”„๋ผ์ด์ฆˆ์˜€๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋†€๋ผ์›€์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:10
Dan: That's a nice way to say it is a surprise.ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋†€๋ผ์›€์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:11
Vanessa: So I'd like to explain really quick beforeย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์„ค๋ช…๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:13
we answer this, why it can be considered rude.ย  And it's not really because it's too personal.ย ย 
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. ์™œ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž„์‹ ์„
11:20
It's more because if you did not plan yourย  pregnancy and you just got pregnant by accident,ย ย 
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๊ณ„ํšํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ์ž„์‹ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š”
11:28
there's a concern. Maybe for me,ย  if I got pregnant by accidentย ย 
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์šฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ์ž„์‹ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
11:33
then and someone said, "Is this an accidentalย  pregnancy?" And I said, "Yes." I might feel like,ย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ "์šฐ๋ฐœ์ ์ธ ์ž„์‹ ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "์˜ˆ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:39
"Oh, they might think I don't love my child." Dan:ย 
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"์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ• ์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ." Dan: ๋ฐ”๋กœ
11:42
It puts you on the spot. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ์ž„์‹ ์„ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งŒํผ ์ž๋…€์—
11:44
It feels like maybe you don't care aboutย  your child as much as someone who plansย ย 
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๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:49
their pregnancy. So I think it can make,ย  especially the mother feel uncomfortable. Butย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํŠนํžˆ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
11:55
for those of you who asked this to us, noย  problem. I allowed you to ask any question.ย 
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์ด๋ฅผ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ—ˆ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:00
Dan:ย 
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12:00
We don't have a problem with it. Vanessa:ย 
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Dan:
๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
12:02
Answer- Dan:ย 
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12:02
Especially because- Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹ต๋ณ€- Dan:
ํŠนํžˆ ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด- Vanessa:
12:04
Did we plan this baby? Dan:ย 
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์ด ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„ํšํ•œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? Dan:
12:05
We always plan all children. You cannot beย  married to this woman and not have a plan.ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ชจ๋“  ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๊ณ„ํšํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด ์—ฌ์ž์™€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:12
Vanessa: So generally, I'm very careful about... I knowย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
12:16
things could always happen, but I try to be veryย  careful about planning when we have a baby andย ย 
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์ผ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์•„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์„ธ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
12:23
all of those types of things. I think that that'sย  important for the family unit. It's Important forย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ชจ๋“  ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์กฑ ๋‹จ์œ„์— ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:28
me. I know that your body and your life is oftenย  unpredictable, but that's just how it went for us.ย ย 
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ๊ณผ ์‚ถ์€ ์ข…์ข… ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:35
The next category is questions about birth andย  around the birth time. So our first question isย ย 
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๋‹ค์Œ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ถœ์ƒ ๋ฐ ์ถœ์ƒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€
12:43
from Lucas and he says, "Will you give birthย  at home like you did with Theo and Freddie?"ย ย 
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๋ฃจ์นด์Šค์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ์™”๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” " ํ…Œ์˜ค์™€ ํ”„๋ ˆ๋””์—๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ถœ์‚ฐํ•  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:48
Quick correction. I gave birth in a birthย  center for Theo and Freddie. So it's likeย ย 
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๋น ๋ฅธ ์ˆ˜์ •. ํ…Œ์˜ค์™€ ํ”„๋ ˆ๋””๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์„ผํ„ฐ์—์„œ ์ถœ์‚ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
12:54
a home environment, but they have all of theย  emergency supplies. Should your baby need oxygen,ย ย 
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๊ฐ€์ • ํ™˜๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„์ƒ ์šฉํ’ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๊ธฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฐ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ,
13:01
if you hemorrhage and you can't stop bleeding,ย  they can help you with all of that. And it'sย ย 
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์ถœํ˜ˆ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ถœํ˜ˆ์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์•„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„์™€์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
13:08
a very comforting environment. It's not theย  hospital, but it's beside the hospital. Anyway,ย ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณ‘์›์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ณ‘์› ์˜†์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์–ด์จŒ๋“ 
13:13
it was a beautiful experience. Dan:ย 
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
13:14
Feels like a bedroom. Vanessa:ย 
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์นจ์‹ค ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด์—์š”. Vanessa:
13:15
Yeah, it's like a bedroom, a reallyย  nice hotel room. I feel extremelyย ย 
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๋„ค, ์นจ์‹ค ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํ˜ธํ…” ๋ฐฉ์ด์—์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š”
13:20
lucky that we had that available in ourย  city, but about a year and a half ago-ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํ–‰์šด์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ , ์•ฝ 1๋…„ ๋ฐ˜ ์ „์—๋Š”-
13:25
Dan: Now we don't.ย 
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13:25
Vanessa: The birth center had to close. There was justย ย 
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Dan: ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Vanessa: ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์„ผํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:29
insurance problems. It was really a bigย  shame. I know the US doesn't have a goodย ย 
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๋ณดํ—˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ํฐ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์˜๋ฃŒ ํ‰ํŒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ 
13:34
healthcare reputation, and this is one of theย  problems. So the birth center closed down andย ย 
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์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์„ผํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜๊ณ 
13:40
I needed to find an alternative. And we had twoย  options. One was to go to the hospital and oneย ย 
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๋Œ€์•ˆ์„ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์˜ต์…˜์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ณ‘์›์— ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
13:46
was to have a home birth because I alreadyย  had two very smooth, pretty straightforward-ย 
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์ง‘์—์„œ ๋ถ„๋งŒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งค์šฐ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ณ  ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์˜ ์ถœ์‚ฐ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:53
Dan: Successful.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์„ฑ๊ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
Vanessa: Successful, simple births. And Iย ย 
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Vanessa: ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ถœ์‚ฐ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š”
13:57
feel very lucky about that. I know a lot of peopleย  have scary birth stories, but for me it was reallyย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ์šด์ด ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์„œ์šด ์ถœ์ƒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ •๋ง
14:04
empowering and great, not fun, but certainly aย  positive experience, overall. I felt comfortableย ย 
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ํž˜์„ ์‹ค์–ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์žฌ๋ฏธ๋Š” ์—†์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:14
not giving birth in the hospital. So I interviewedย  a couple midwives who come to your house and helpย ย 
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๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ์ถœ์‚ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ํŽธ์•ˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง‘์— ์™€์„œ
14:21
you as you're giving birth. And we found one thatย  we really liked. So I've been having appointmentsย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ถœ์‚ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๋„์™€์ฃผ๋Š” ์กฐ์‚ฐ์‚ฌ ๋ถ€๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ์•ฝ์†์„ ์žก์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:27
with her. It's just like normal, really. She takesย  my blood, she does various tests, all of thoseย ย 
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. ์ •๋ง ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚ด ํ˜ˆ์•ก์„ ์ฑ„์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:35
types of things. And when she comes to the houseย  when I'm in labor, she said she has three giganticย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ถ„๋งŒ ์ค‘์ผ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ง‘์— ์™”์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
14:41
bags of all of the emergency supplies and anythingย  that she might need to help me or the baby.ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„์ƒ ์šฉํ’ˆ๊ณผ ์ €๋‚˜ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹ด๊ธด ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ ์„ธ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:48
And yeah, we'll see what happens. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
14:51
She seems very capable. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋Šฅํ•ด ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
14:52
Yeah, very capable, very- Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ์•„์ฃผ ์œ ๋Šฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„์ฃผ- Dan:
14:54
She's delivered thousands of babies. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ฒœ ๋ช…์˜ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚ณ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
14:58
And I think because I've given birth before,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „์— ์ถœ์‚ฐ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
14:59
I feel more comfortable with the experienceย  in general. So yeah, that's what we'reย ย 
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๊ทธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ๋” ํŽธํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
15:04
going to do. We'll let you know how it turns out.ย ย 
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ํ•  ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:07
All right, the next question could be more forย  both of us. And a lot of people ask this. Carmen,ย ย 
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์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ๋” ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Carmen,
15:12
Michelle, Evangelina and Ophelia asked, "Do youย  think Freddie and Theo will be jealous of theirย ย 
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Michelle, Evangelina ๋ฐ Ophelia๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. " Freddie์™€ Theo๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ์„ ์งˆํˆฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”
15:19
little sister?" What do you think? Dan:ย 
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?" ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
15:22
I don't think so. No. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. Vanessa:
15:23
Okay. Dan:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
15:24
I think they're going to be just very excited toย  see her and be with her. And I think they won'tย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์งˆํˆฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:33
be jealous. I think they might get frustrated ifย  we're doing something with her and they want toย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
15:39
play with us or talk to us or something. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋†€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ๊ฑธ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ขŒ์ ˆํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
15:41
That's part of jealousy though. I thinkย  that's how kids can express jealousy in a way.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์งˆํˆฌ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ง€๋งŒ. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์งˆํˆฌ๋ฅผ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:44
Dan: Oh, okay.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
15:45
Vanessa: Is extra anger, extra frustration.ย 
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Vanessa: ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋ถ„๋…ธ, ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ขŒ์ ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:48
Dan: They're just like that nowย ย 
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Dan: ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ 
15:50
anyways. If we're doing something and they wantย  our attention, they're going to be upset about it.ย ย 
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ์›ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:56
jealousy. I don't think so. Vanessa:ย 
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์งˆํˆฌ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. Vanessa:
15:59
No, they've think so really positively to otherย  babies. And whenever we talk about Matilda, it'sย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๊ธ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
16:05
funny because you know how as adults, wheneverย  we're near babies, your voice goes up like, "Oh,ย ย 
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๊ธฐ ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค "์˜ค,
16:10
little baby." You create this baby voice.ย  Our kids do that too. They'll say, "Oh,ย ย 
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์ž‘์€ ์•„๊ธฐ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋†’์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์•„๊ธฐ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ "์˜ค,
16:16
I wonder if Matilda's going to have little cuteย  fingers." And they have that voice too. So youย ย 
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๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค์˜ ์ž‘๊ณ  ๊ท€์—ฌ์šด ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์ด ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
16:21
can tell that they are expecting her to be a cuteย  little play thing. I think it will become harderย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ท€์—ฝ๊ณ  ์ž‘์€ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
16:29
as she gets older and starts grabbing theirย  things. It's always growing pains. But yeah,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์žก๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋” ํž˜๋“ค์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ๋Š˜ ์„ฑ์žฅํ†ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ,
16:36
I feel like in general it'll be okay. Dan:ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
16:38
Yeah. And I associate jealousy behaviorย  with something like hitting the baby becauseย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์งˆํˆฌํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰๋™์„ ์•„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์„œ ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ด€์‹œํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:45
they're upset. Vanessa:ย 
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16:45
Aggressive? Dan:ย 
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. Vanessa:
๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? Dan:
16:46
Mommy's holding the baby. I don'tย  think they're going to be like that.ย 
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์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:49
Vanessa: In general, what I've found is thatย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฐพ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€
16:52
having a newborn is okay. Having a three-year-oldย  is the problem. So I expect that the very ageย ย 
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์‹ ์ƒ์•„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ ์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š”
17:01
appropriate three-year-old tantrums that ourย  three-year-old is experiencing now will alsoย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์„ธ ์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์„ธ ์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ ์šธํ™”ํ†ต์ด
17:08
happen later. And it will just be harder for usย  because we also will have a small baby to careย ย 
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ๋ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ž‘์€ ์•„๊ธฐ๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋” ํž˜๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:13
for. So I don't really expect it will be thatย  much more, but it will just continue and we'llย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
17:18
have more responsibilities, which will make itย  trickier for us. So yeah, that's the idea. We'llย ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ฑ…์ž„์„ ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋” ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
17:23
see. All right, Anna, [inaudible 00:17:27], andย  Olindo had a similar type of question. Will youย ย 
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๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Anna[๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Œ 00:17:27]์™€ Olindo๊ฐ€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:30
have some help with the kids after she'sย  born? Olinda specifically asked about theย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ํ›„ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋„์™€์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ? Olinda๋Š”
17:35
role of grandparents because he's a grandfather.ย  So he helps to take care of his grandkids, takesย ย 
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์ž์‹ ์ด ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์†์ž๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ 
17:41
them to sports games. And this is specificallyย  about after birth, but they asked, "Is it normalย ย 
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์Šคํฌ์ธ  ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํŠนํžˆ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ํ›„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ "
17:46
to have help with your kids, either paid help orย  grandparent help after the baby's born?" So yeah,ย ย 
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์•„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ํ›„ ์œ ๊ธ‰ ๋„์›€์ด๋‚˜ ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ ๋„์›€ ์ค‘ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋•๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜,
17:53
what will we do? Do we know? Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ• ๊นŒ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
17:56
I believe my mom will be here for a while. Vanessa:ย 
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์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
18:00
We'll see how long a while is. Dan:ย 
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋‚จ์•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์ž. Dan:
18:01
I don't think this is set in stone yet. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„์ง ํ™•์ •๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
18:02
It's not. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
18:03
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
18:04
So because we're going to be,ย  because we have other children,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ž์œผ๋กœ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
18:06
even if we weren't giving birth at home, evenย  if it were at a hospital or birth center,ย ย 
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์ง‘์—์„œ ์ถœ์‚ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ณ‘์›์ด๋‚˜ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์„ผํ„ฐ์—์„œ ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„
18:11
you still need someone to take care of your kidsย  while you're gone. So Dan's mom's going to comeย ย 
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์•„๋™์„ ๋Œ๋ด์ค„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Dan์˜ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š”
18:17
during the birth and probably the next day. Withย  Theo and Freddy, with Theo, our oldest child,ย ย 
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๋ถ„๋งŒ ์ค‘์— ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ๋‚ ์— ์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Theo์™€ Freddy, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํฐ ์•„์ด์ธ Theo์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜
18:24
she stayed for two weeks and then with Freddy, sheย  stayed less time. But in the end, I'm not exactlyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” 2์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” Freddy์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋” ์ ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ
18:35
sure what will happen this time. But we do haveย  several babysitters who help in our daily livesย ย 
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์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ์ง€ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ํ™•์‹ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„์‹œํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๋ช… ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:43
now so that I can film these videos and do my job- Dan:ย 
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์ด์ œ ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ œ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
18:48
And be sane. Vanessa:ย 
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18:48
And be sane. Everyone needs help in their life.ย  So they will also be coming to be with our oldestย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •์‹  ์ฐจ๋ฆฌ์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
์ •์‹  ์ฐจ๋ฆฌ์„ธ์š”. ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ
18:56
children and we'll be with the baby. So it'sย  perfect timing because she'll be born at theย ย 
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์ž๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 6์›” ์ดˆ ์— ํƒœ์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํƒ€์ด๋ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:01
beginning of June. We didn't mention she'sย  going to be born at the beginning of June.ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ 6์›” ์ดˆ์— ํƒœ์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:05
Dan: Oh yeah.ย 
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19:05
Vanessa: We don't know when,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
Vanessa: ์–ธ์ œ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ
19:06
but sometimes the beginning of June. Dan:ย 
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” 6์›” ์ดˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
19:08
Maybe May. Vanessa:ย 
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19:08
And Dan works at a school, so school will beย  out, which is perfect because we will both beย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ 5์›”. Vanessa:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Dan์€ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ์‰ฌ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค
19:15
home all summer. So for me, I feel like we canย  care for me and the baby. And then if someoneย ย 
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์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์™„๋ฒฝํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ €์™€ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€
19:24
helps to care for Theo and Freddy, that would beย  great. Obviously we'll still spend time with them,ย ย 
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ํ…Œ์˜ค์™€ ํ”„๋ ˆ๋””๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š”
19:29
but I think I am less worried about someoneย  caring for the baby. And if you can takeย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋œ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
19:37
care of me and I take care of her and someoneย  else takes care of them, we'll be good. Right?ย 
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๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋Œ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ?
19:41
Dan: Right.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋งž์•„์š”.
19:43
Vanessa: We're basically askingย ย 
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
19:45
all of our friends and family to... We don'tย  really need baby stuff, so we're asking them,ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ์š”์ฒญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:51
"If you want to give us something, please giveย  us food. Please make a meal and we can put it inย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ƒ‰๋™์‹ค์— ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:56
our freezer." I think that's the perfect gift.ย  So I think we will be taken care of. I hope.ย ย 
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." ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํฌ๋ง.
20:02
Along with the idea of help and getting help,ย  Sharon and Valentina had an interesting questionย ย 
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๋„์›€์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ๋„์›€์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ Sharon๊ณผ Valentina๋Š”
20:07
that shows how not American this is. Is itย  expensive to have a baby in the US and will youย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์€์ง€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค๊ณ 
20:14
receive a government subsidy for a newborn baby? That's what I laughed at.ย ย 
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์‹ ์ƒ์•„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ถ€ ๋ณด์กฐ๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์›ƒ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:21
So my first thought, and then you can sayย  something about this. My first thought wasย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋จผ์ € ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€
20:26
if you are already receiving government subsidies,ย  maybe you are on welfare or you get food stampsย ย 
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์ด๋ฏธ ์ •๋ถ€ ๋ณด์กฐ๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ณต์ง€ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ‘ธ๋“œ ์Šคํƒฌํ”„ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:33
or something like that. You will receive someย  care, some extra subsidy or something to help youย ย 
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ณด์‚ดํ•Œ, ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋˜๋Š”
20:42
pay for baby food or something like that. Dan:ย 
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์ด์œ ์‹ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
20:45
You have to be under a certain income level. Vanessa:ย 
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์ผ์ • ์†Œ๋“ ์ˆ˜์ค€ ์ดํ•˜์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
20:48
Yeah, if you're already receiving that, youย  might get something also for your baby. But forย ย 
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๋„ค, ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
20:54
most people, the government doesn'tย  care if you have a baby or not.ย 
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ถ€๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋“  ์—†๋“  ์ƒ๊ด€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:00
Dan: Well, you count them on your taxesย ย 
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ„์‚ฐ
21:03
and you probably pay less taxes. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์„ ๋œ ๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
21:05
There's a little bit less taxes because youย  have... For each child, but it's not much. Yeah,ย ย 
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์„ธ๊ธˆ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ž๋…€ ํ•œ ๋ช…๋‹น... ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿด
21:13
it's not worth it. Dan:ย 
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21:13
The certainly don't give you money. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
21:15
No. And they don't give... I know some countries- Dan:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค- Dan:
21:17
They don't give you a timeย  off or anything like that.ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ํœด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:19
Vanessa: Yeah, no time off. They won'tย ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์‰ฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:20
give you a package. I know some countries give aย  baby package to every new family and you get...ย ย 
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ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„๊ธฐ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ
21:26
It's kind of famous, I think in Norway where theyย  give you a baby box and the baby box is big enoughย ย 
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๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด์ ์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ๋…ธ๋ฅด์›จ์ด์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ ์ƒ์ž๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„๊ธฐ ์ƒ์ž๋Š”
21:31
to be a crib for a newborn and they have towelsย  and swaddles and bottles and tons of stuff for aย ย 
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์‹ ์ƒ์•„์šฉ ์นจ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋งŒํผ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜๊ฑด ๊ณผ ํฌ๋Œ€๊ธฐ, ์ –๋ณ‘, ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:39
baby. And I don't know, that would be amazing ifย  someone wants to send us that. But the governmentย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ถ€๋Š”
21:45
does not do that. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
21:46
No. Our government's moreย  interested in making bombs.ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ •๋ถ€๋Š” ํญํƒ„ ์ œ์กฐ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:49
Vanessa: That's the truth of the matter.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ์˜ ์ง„์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:53
So the first question was, is itย  expensive to have a baby in the US?ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“œ๋‚˜์š”?์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:59
It depends what you think about money. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
22:01
Yeah, it depends on... I don't know. We've justย  always really worked into our budget, child stuff.ย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ... ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์˜ˆ์‚ฐ, ์–ด๋ฆฐ์•  ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:07
I don't think it's incredibly expensive. Vanessa:ย 
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋น„์‹ผ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
22:09
So I know a couple different costs. The firstย  one is Americans pay health insurance monthly.ย ย 
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๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด ๋งค๋‹ฌ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๋ณดํ—˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:16
And that's around... I wouldn't say at theย  moment, it's specifically a requirement,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์š”๊ตฌ ์‚ฌํ•ญ
22:21
but almost everybody has some healthย  insurance. And usually your company,ย ย 
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์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜์— ๊ฐ€์ž…๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณดํ†ต
22:26
if you work full-time, will pay 50% of theย  healthcare or the health insurance monthlyย ย 
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์ •๊ทœ์ง์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์˜๋ฃŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜ ์›”
22:33
costs. So if you work for a company, your healthย  insurance is much cheaper than someone like us.ย 
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๋น„์šฉ์˜ 50%๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ €๋ ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:38
Dan: We're not the best people toย ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
22:40
ask because we're self-employed. Vanessa:ย 
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์ž์˜์—…์ž์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
22:42
Oh, and you get the short end of the stick.ย  Let me tell you why. Yeah. You got to pay theย ย 
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ง‰๋Œ€๊ธฐ์˜ ์งง์€ ๋์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
22:46
full price of health insurance. You have to findย  your own health insurance independently. Not fun.ย 
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๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜์˜ ์ „์ฒด ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜์„ ๋…๋ฆฝ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฌ๋ฏธ ์—†์–ด.
22:52
Dan: It's expensive. Yeah. I mean,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋น„์‹ธ์š”. ์‘. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€
22:54
America is not known for cheap healthcare. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ์ €๋ ดํ•œ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
22:55
No. Yeah, in general, I would say if you workย  for a company, you might pay a hundred dollarsย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. ์˜ˆ, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— 100๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:02
a month in health insurance. If you workย  for yourself, you might pay between 500 andย ย 
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. ์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
23:07
a thousand dollars per month in health insurance.ย  So thinking about that, that is part of the cost.ย ย 
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๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์›” 500~ ์ฒœ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋น„์šฉ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:14
When we went to the birth center and forย  this home birth midwife that we're paying,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์„ผํ„ฐ์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๋Š” ์ด ๊ฐ€์ • ๋ถ„๋งŒ ์‚ฐํŒŒ์˜
23:19
the cost is about $6,000. So our health insuranceย  we pay a lot for per month. We will get reimbursedย ย 
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๋น„์šฉ์€ ์•ฝ $6,000์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ณดํ—˜์€ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ๋งŽ์€ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
23:31
a big chunk of that, over 50% of that, we willย  get reimbursed if you have a hospital birth... Iย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ 50% ์ด์ƒ์„ ํ™˜๊ธ‰๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ์ถœ์‚ฐํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํ™˜๊ธ‰์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ์ €๋Š”
23:40
know some friends have had a hospital birth, theyย  had a C-section and they did not have insurance,ย ย 
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๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ์ถœ์‚ฐํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ œ์™•์ ˆ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณดํ—˜,
23:47
and it cost $10,000, which is a lot of money. Dan:ย 
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๋น„์šฉ์ด 10,000๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
23:52
It's less than I would've expected. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
23:54
But that's what I thought. Yeah, Iย  thought it would be like a hundredย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด์•ผ. ๋„ค, ์‹ญ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ •๋„์ผ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:56
thousand dollars. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
23:57
Well... Vanessa:ย 
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์Œ... Vanessa:
23:58
And usually the hospital gives you some kindย  of payment plan, so you could pay a hundredย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณดํ†ต ๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ง€๋ถˆ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ
24:03
dollars every month for the rest of your lifeย  or something like that. So that's the cost thatย ย 
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๋‚จ์€ ์ƒ์•  ๋™์•ˆ ๋งค์›” 100๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ
24:10
I know. I know some people who have... I don'tย  know how expensive their insurance is monthly,ย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ๋งค๋‹ฌ ๋ณดํ—˜์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋น„์‹ผ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ,
24:16
but their whole birth was like $25. But maybeย  they're paying $500 a month in insurance.ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ „์ฒด ์ถœ์‚ฐ์€ $25 ์ •๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ณดํ—˜๋ฃŒ๋กœ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— $500๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:21
Dan: Or more.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ.
24:22
Vanessa: They're more or more, so it's hardย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋งŽ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
24:24
to say exactly. It's a very complicated question.ย  But if you plan on having a baby in the US,ย ย 
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
24:31
save some money. Save some money, and yeah,ย  just check with your insurance company. Iย ย 
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๋ˆ์„ ์•„๋ผ์„ธ์š”. ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ ˆ์•ฝํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ˆ, ๋ณดํ—˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์ €๋Š”
24:37
know some insurance companies like ours,ย  you can't start a new insurance companyย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ณดํ—˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ์ž„์‹ ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ƒˆ ๋ณดํ—˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:45
if you're already pregnant. Okay. Are we ready to move on toย ย 
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. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”
24:48
our next question? Dan:ย 
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24:48
I think we should. Vanessa:ย 
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? Dan:
ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
24:49
Okay. The next question is also aย  new category. We just talked aboutย ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋„ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์ž„์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ
24:54
pregnancy, then we talked about birth andย  around the birth time. Next is our life withย ย 
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ถœ์‚ฐ๊ณผ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹ค์Œ์€ ์„ธ ์ž๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ถ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:00
three children. So we have a lot of people whoย  asked the same question. Maggie, Amery, Melody,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Maggie, Amery, Melody,
25:07
and Lizzie all asked, dun, dun, duh. "Do you wantย  to have another baby after Matilda?" First of all,ย ย 
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Lizzie๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. " ๋งˆํ‹ธ๋‹ค ๋‹ค์Œ์— ๋˜ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ˆ?" ์šฐ์„ , ์ž„์‹ 
25:15
never ask a seven month, eight month pregnantย  woman. If she wants another baby, that's okay.ย ย 
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7๊ฐœ์›”, 8๊ฐœ์›” ๋œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋ฌป์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” . ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:20
I'm just saying that as a joke. But yeah. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋†๋‹ด์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜. Dan:
25:23
Don't ask her to her face. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋Œ€๊ณ  ๋ฌป์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
25:24
Oh, let's answer together on three. Are you ready? Dan:ย 
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์•„, 3๋ฒˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‹ตํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ์ค€๋น„ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋Œ„:
25:27
Okay. Vanessa:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
25:28
Three, two, one. No. Dan:ย 
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์…‹, ๋‘˜, ํ•˜๋‚˜. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. Dan:
25:31
No. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. Vanessa:
25:32
So this is it. I think I will do everything in myย  power and so will Dan to make sure that this isย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ Dan๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:38
it. Our family is done. Dan:ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€ ๋๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
25:40
Yeah, three feels perfect to me. I mean,ย  obviously I grew up with two siblings, soย ย 
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๋„ค, 3๊ฐœ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ €๋Š” ๋‘ ๋‚จ๋งค์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž๋ž๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
25:45
it makes sense. And I know it was already quite aย  push for you to go with three. So four is a bit...ย 
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๋ง์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  3๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์ถ”์ง„๋ ฅ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 4๊ฐœ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ...
25:52
Vanessa: If we-ย 
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25:52
Dan: As close to out of theย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€-
Dan:
25:55
question as possible. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
25:56
So the underlying feature here is if I said inย  the future that, "Oh, guess what, we're having aย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— '์•„, ๋งž์ถฐ๋ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
26:03
fourth baby." You'll know it was not planned. Dan:ย 
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๋„ท์งธ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ„ํš๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
26:05
That one is next. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์Œ์ด์—์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
26:07
Yes. So I think three is good.ย  My baby, my belly and my bodyย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” 3๋ฒˆ์ด ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๊ธฐ, ๋ฐฐ, ๋ชธ์ด
26:13
is suffering a lot. So we'll stop it here. Dan:ย 
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๋งŽ์ด ๊ณ ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
26:16
She can finally recuperate after this. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด ํ›„์— ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด ํšŒ๋ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
26:18
Yes, it would be great to say, "Okay, now my bodyย  is mine, kind of. I still have at least anotherย ย 
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๋„ค, "์ข‹์•„์š”, ์ด์ œ ๋‚ด ๋ชธ์€ ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง
26:24
year of taking care of a baby with my body. Butย  the idea that I can go to the gym, I can work out,ย ย 
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๋‚ด ๋ชธ์œผ๋กœ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ ์–ด๋„ 1๋…„์€ ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ , ์šด๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
26:30
I can try to repair my body, all of these things,ย  and that's it. I'm not going to get pregnant againย ย 
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๋‚ด ๋ชธ์„ ๊ณ ์น˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด, ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ์ž„์‹ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ณ  ๊ทธ
26:36
and then have to go through all that again. Allย  right, the next one is also a big question and aย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฒช์–ด์•ผ ํ•ด. ์ข‹์•„, ๋‹ค์Œ๋„ ํฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ
26:41
lot of people asked it, Ella Eleanora, Jeff, Annaย  and Claudia all asked, "How in the world will youย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Ella Eleanora, Jeff, Anna , Claudia๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:48
arrange your day between your professional duties,ย  housekeeping, and your three beautiful children?"ย ย 
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26:56
I don't know. Dan:ย 
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์•Œ์•„์š”. Dan:
26:57
Lots of... Well, babysitters are pretty key. Weย  could have a nanny, honestly, but we have goodย ย 
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๋งŽ์€... ์Œ, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„์‹œํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ์œ ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
27:03
babysitters already. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด๋ฏธ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„์‹œํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
27:06
As far as childcare, our oldest will be goingย  to first grade. He's in kindergarten this year.ย ย 
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๋ณด์œก์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํ•œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ง์ด๋Š” 1ํ•™๋…„์— ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์œ ์น˜์›์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด.
27:12
He'll be going to first grade. Our second,ย  he's three, he will be going to preschoolย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” 1ํ•™๋…„์— ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜์งธ๋Š” ์„ธ ์‚ด์ด๊ณ  ์œ ์น˜์›์— ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:20
and that's nine o'clock toย  one o'clock, four days a week.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— 4์ผ 9์‹œ์—์„œ 1์‹œ๊นŒ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:25
And the baby will be with me and Danย  will be working at our oldest's school.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  Dan์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ง์ด์˜ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:35
Dan: Our oldest son's school.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํฐ์•„๋“ค์˜ ํ•™๊ต.
27:36
Vanessa: So he has the same hours, the same vacations.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„, ๊ฐ™์€ ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:39
Dan: I take him to school, all that.ย 
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋ฐ๋ ค๋‹ค ์ค€๋‹ค.
27:41
Vanessa: You help to commuteย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€
27:42
him to school. So that's a good puzzleย  piece in our life. As far as childcare,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•™ํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์˜ ์ข‹์€ ํผ์ฆ ์กฐ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œก์•„์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
27:48
I think the hard time comes when children areย  sick. You just have mad chaos no matter what. Butย ย 
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์•„ํ”Œ ๋•Œ ํž˜๋“  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ๋ฏธ์นœ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
27:56
so that's for childcare, I feel like when- Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์œก์•„๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”- ๋Œ„:
28:01
That's also the time you work. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
28:02
Yeah. When Matilda is young, really young,ย  she'll nap a lot. And I plan to justย ย 
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๋„ค. Matilda๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ, ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚ฎ์ž ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์žค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ €
28:08
lower my standards. I'll still film YouTubeย  videos. I'll still be active in my business,ย ย 
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์ œ ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋‚ฎ์ถœ ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚ด ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ํ™œ๋™ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
28:15
but I'm not going to be making a ton of newย  courses and lots of new stuff over the next year.ย 
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๋‚ด๋…„์— ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ณผ์ •๊ณผ ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:21
Dan: She always does that.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:22
Vanessa: I always do, that'sย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:24
true. But I do have a lot of help in my business,ย  in Speak English with Vanessa. There's about 10ย ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ Vanessa์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ Speak English์—์„œ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์— ๋งŽ์€ ๋„์›€์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:31
or so people who participate in helping make thisย  business run. Help to edit videos, help to answer-ย 
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์ด ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•ฝ 10๋ช… ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽธ์ง‘ ์ง€์›, ๋‹ต๋ณ€ ์ง€์›-
28:38
Dan: She's got a real team now.ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ํŒ€์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:40
Vanessa: Student questions. All of this, whetherย ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•™์ƒ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์€
28:43
you know it or not, there's a lot of work thatย  goes into making this run. So it's not just me.ย ย 
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์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋“  ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋“  ์ด ์‹คํ–‰์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ž‘์—…์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:50
And I think that due to other people helping, itย  will continue. Right now, I am working very hardย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋„์›€์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ณ„์†๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ €๋Š”
28:57
to prepare for the next six months. So I wouldย  love to... I'm filming a lot of YouTube videos,ย ย 
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ 6๊ฐœ์›”์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ...
29:07
like four months worth of YouTube videos.ย  I have a lot of things prepared in advance,ย ย 
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4๊ฐœ์›” ๋ถ„๋Ÿ‰์˜ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งŽ์€ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ์ค€๋น„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งŽ๊ณ ,
29:12
and a lot of the people who are working for theย  business are also preparing for a maternity leave.ย 
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์‚ฌ์—…ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ถœ์‚ฐํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
29:19
I'm still going to be doing something,ย  but it's not going to be as busy. Andย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”์˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
29:26
it's a good thing when you get pregnant, you haveย  nine months to prepare. So I'm using this time toย ย 
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์ž„์‹ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 9๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ ์ค€๋น„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„
29:32
prepare for the business. And I'm sure at someย  point Matilda will be taking less naps, she'llย ย 
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์‚ฌ์—… ์ค€๋น„์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” Matilda๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฎ์ž ์„ ๋œ ์ž๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
29:39
be sleeping less, and I'll need to have someoneย  come a couple mornings a week to watch her so thatย ย 
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๋œ ์ž๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋‘์–ด ๋ฒˆ ์•„์นจ์— ์™€์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์ง€์ผœ๋ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:45
I can do my business, which is what we do now. Butย  I think at the beginning we'll just take it slow,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
29:52
see how it goes. Dan:ย 
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. Dan:
29:54
We'll have some time, especially early on,ย  to just be with our family. Build a newย ย 
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:00
relationship with this child, and thenย  after that we'll have help via babysitters.ย 
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์ด ์•„์ด์™€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„์‹œํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋„์›€์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:07
Vanessa: Yeah. One of the partsย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
30:08
of this is as I said professional duties,ย  three beautiful children and housekeeping.ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ „๋ฌธ์ ์ธ ์˜๋ฌด, ์„ธ ๋ช…์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ž๋…€ ๋ฐ ์ง‘์•ˆ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:13
Dan: Oh.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค.
30:14
Vanessa: Yeah. That's why we have Dan.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Dan์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:16
Dan: Who does that. Yeah,ย ย 
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30:16
right now I'm the housekeeper. Vanessa:ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด. ์˜ˆ,
์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ •๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
30:19
Yeah. So at the moment, Danย  does everything for the house,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ Dan์€ ์ง‘์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:23
and that's a halfway through pregnancy intoย  the future. Who knows? Maybe Dan will alwaysย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž„์‹ ์˜ ์ค‘๊ฐ„์—์„œ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„? ์•„๋งˆ๋„ Dan์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ
30:31
do all the household chores, probably not. Butย  I think that's really useful to try to help eachย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ง‘์•ˆ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์„œ๋กœ ๋„์šฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์œ ์šฉํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
30:38
other out when you can. Especially when havingย  a third child having a business. Both of us areย ย 
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. ํŠนํžˆ ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๋”์šฑ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค
30:45
working part-time, but also full-time, and there'sย  a lot going on in our lives. You just need to beย ย 
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ํŒŒํŠธํƒ€์ž„์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ’€ํƒ€์ž„์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:51
there for each other really. Which- Dan:ย 
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์ •๋ง ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋Š- ๋Œ„:
30:53
At least we have the robot. Vanessa:ย 
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์ ์–ด๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋กœ๋ด‡์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
30:55
Oh yeah. And we have- Dan:ย 
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”- Dan:
30:56
Robo vac, I mean. Vanessa:ย 
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Robo vac, ์ œ ๋ง์€. Vanessa:
30:57
10 robots who also live in our house and doย  everything. Just kidding. Talking about us though.ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋กœ๋ด‡ 10๋Œ€ . ๋†๋‹ด์ด์•ผ. ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:04
We have one bonus question, but before we get toย  the bonus question. Edita has a question about us.ย ย 
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๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— Edita๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:10
She said, how can you keep up your relationshipย  with each other when you have three children?ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์„ธ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„œ๋กœ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š๋ƒ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:16
Dan: We don't know yet.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„์ง ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:18
Vanessa: No. How do you do it when youย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
31:20
have one child or two children? Dan:ย 
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์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ผ ๋•Œ๋‚˜ ๋‘ ๋ช…์ผ ๋•Œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
31:24
Well, anytime you have a toddler in the house,ย  it gets pretty difficult, let's put it that way.ย 
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์Œ, ์ง‘์— ์œ ์•„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
31:28
Vanessa: Yeah. I feel like-ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€-
31:29
Dan: Because by the end of the day,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํ•˜๋ฃจ๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚  ๋ฌด๋ ต์—๋Š”
31:31
you're like, "I'm done." Vanessa:ย 
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"๋๋‚ฌ์–ด." Vanessa:
31:32
I'm so tired. Dan:ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•ด์š”. Dan:
31:33
We don't have time to work out our problems.ย  It's like, "Can I just pass out now?"ย 
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๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ธฐ์ ˆํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?"
31:38
Vanessa: Yeah. I think anyone who has kids periodย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋”
31:42
realizes that there's a big extra effort that youย  have to put into your relationship to just findย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
31:50
the energy for each other. And I think we try toย  do that. We don't always succeed, but yeah. Tryingย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:57
to find some time for each other is good. Dan:ย 
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์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
32:00
A big thing for us is that we have aย  couple's therapist that we see everyย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ์ ์€ ๋งค์ฃผ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฉ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ€ ์น˜๋ฃŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
32:05
week or every other week or so. And so thatย  really helps us check in with each other. Andย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์„œ๋กœ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
32:13
having a middle man there really helps beingย  like, "Hey, how do I really feel right now?"ย 
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์ค‘๊ฐœ์ธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด "์ด๋ด, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋•Œ?"
32:17
Vanessa: So highly recommend talkingย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ์žˆ๋Š”
32:21
with a couple's therapist for anyone who is in aย  relationship. You don't have to be on the brink ofย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ปคํ”Œ ์น˜๋ฃŒ์‚ฌ์™€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์น˜๋ฃŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ดํ˜ผ ์ง์ „์— ์žˆ์„ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
32:26
divorce to go see a therapist. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
32:27
You don't have to wait till then. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
32:29
No. Do not wait till then. I know when weย  started meeting with him, we were like, "Yeah,ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ "๊ทธ๋ž˜,
32:34
our relationship has normal problems, but it's notย  disastrous." And it's been so helpful for us. Youย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€๊ณ„์—๋Š” ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์žฌ์•™์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
32:41
don't have to be- Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค- ๋Œ„:
32:42
It's very eye-opening. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ˆˆ์ด ๋ฒˆ์ฉ ๋œจ์ด๋Š”๊ตฐ์š”. Vanessa:
32:44
At the very end of your relationship to doย  that. So I think that's been... It's helpedย ย 
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๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด...
32:49
us to understand each other better. And alsoย  all of these big life changes. It's like aย ย 
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์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ํฐ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์น˜
32:55
teacher. You have a teacher guiding you throughย  that, because I don't know, we don't really liveย ย 
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์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ง€๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
33:00
in a culture where you have great-grandparentsย  and grandparents and parents all living togetherย ย 
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์ฆ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ ์™€ ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ, ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ฌธํ™”์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:07
helping with your life a lot and teaching youย  about how to do different things. So havingย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋•๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
33:13
a professional give you some insight and askย  the hard questions. Yeah, that's been reallyย ย 
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์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์ •๋ง
33:20
helpful for us. Dan:ย 
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์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
33:21
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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33:21
So yeah, highly recommend. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๋„ค, ์ ๊ทน ์ถ”์ฒœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
33:23
We also occasionally go on a date. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ€๋” ๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋„ ํ•ด์š”. Vanessa:
33:27
Yeah, I think whenever we get a chanceย  to go out to lunch or drop the childrenย ย 
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๋„ค, ์ ์‹ฌ์„ ๋จน์œผ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„
33:33
off at Dan's parent's house for a coupleย  days. We're going to do that next week.ย 
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๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ Dan์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜ ์ง‘์— ๋ฐ๋ ค๋‹ค ์ค„ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:36
Dan: Yes.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
33:37
Vanessa: And it feels soย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ƒ์พŒํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์—์š”
33:39
refreshing. And I think just try to take thoseย  chances when you can. Don't feel guilty aboutย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์žก์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์„ธ์š” . ์ž๋…€์™€ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฃ„์ฑ…๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”
33:46
enjoying spending time away from your children.ย  First of all, your children need other people inย ย 
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. ์šฐ์„ , ์ž๋…€๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๊ท€ํ•˜๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:51
their lives, not just you. They need grandparents.ย  They need babysitters. They need a community, notย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„์‹œํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:57
just their parents. So it's good for us, but it'sย  also good for them, I think, too. All right. Weย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ข‹์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
34:02
have one final question. It is a bonus question. Dan:ย 
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
34:06
Ooh bonus. Vanessa:ย 
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34:06
Are you ready? Yes. All right. Well, we'veย  talked a lot about our experiences and ourย ย 
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์˜ค ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค. Vanessa:
์ค€๋น„๋๋‚˜์š”? ์˜ˆ. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๊ณผ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:12
lives. But Ava has a great question. Ava says,ย  "Do you have any recommendations for someoneย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ Ava๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Ava๋Š” "์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ž„์‹ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ถŒ์žฅํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”
34:19
who's pregnant for the first time?" Well,ย  we are not the world's foremost experts, butย ย 
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?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
34:29
we've gone through this a couple times. Dan:ย 
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์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
34:31
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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34:31
What would you say? Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
34:32
I think you're an expert. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
34:34
At this point. If you've gone throughย  pregnancy one time, all of a suddenย ย 
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์ด ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ์š”. ์ž„์‹ ์„ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋”
34:37
you have so much more experience. Andย  then two times, and then three times.ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ, ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ.
34:41
Dan: Well, does she mean actuallyย ย 
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Dan: ์Œ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
34:43
the pregnancy part or? Vanessa:ย 
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์ž„์‹  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด? Vanessa:
34:45
Yeah, I would say- Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”- Dan:
34:46
Because, you're a better person to answer- Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”- Vanessa:
34:47
Pregnancy. The mindset, your relationship, all ofย  that stuff. I think we could take this questionย ย 
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์ž„์‹ . ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„, ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ. ์ €๋Š” ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:53
in many directions. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
34:54
Yeah. Well, I hope that you have time to spendย  with your partner for one. I hope the partnerย ย 
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๋„ค. ์Œ, ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€
35:02
is there. That's pretty key. Having somebodyย  who's really your support person is extremelyย ย 
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์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์—ด์‡ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋•๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ
35:10
important. So even if the partner's not in theย  picture, then you're going to need somebody.ย 
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์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์— ์—†๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:14
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
35:15
Dan: Who's super committed toย ย 
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Dan:
35:16
being with you during that time. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ. Vanessa:
35:19
I think that's a good starting place is having...ย  Well, if you're already pregnant is too late.ย ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์ถœ๋ฐœ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ์Œ, ์ด๋ฏธ ์ž„์‹ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:25
But choosing- Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์„ ํƒ- Dan:
35:27
Let's turn the chapter back a little bit.ย  Find the right person to get pregnant with.ย 
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์žฅ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋’ค๋กœ ๋Œ๋ ค ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž„์‹ ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
35:30
Vanessa: Choosing someone who youย ย 
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Vanessa:
35:32
like and having kids with them. I know when oneย  of my friends was thinking about having a baby,ย ย 
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์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ. ๋‚ด ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
35:37
she's like, "I just don't know when the rightย  time is." And I was like, "Yeah, maybe there'sย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์ œ์ธ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š” ."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด
35:41
some times that are better than other times. Butย  the biggest question is. Is he the right person?"ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ๊ฐ€?"
35:46
Dan: Yeah.ย 
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35:46
Vanessa: Because it's neverย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
Vanessa:
35:48
going to be a perfect time to get pregnant, but ifย  you're with the person that you want to be with,ย ย 
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์ž„์‹ ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜๋ผ๋ฉด
35:54
in the end, it will work out. Yes.ย  Sometimes we'll be harder than others,ย ย 
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ž˜ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ์˜ˆ. ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚จ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํž˜๋“ค๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
35:57
but I think the first question is who?ย  And I would say the second thing isย ย 
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ๊ฐ€? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ
36:05
a lot of people, a lot of women who are pregnantย  for the first time, it's very normal. I was likeย ย 
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์ž„์‹ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ •์ƒ์ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋„
36:10
this too. Do a lot of research and feel a lot moreย  anxious about their first child, especially forย ย 
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์ด๋žฌ๋‹ค.
36:17
us, compared to number two and number three. It's not that they are neglected,ย ย 
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์™€ ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์— ๋น„ํ•ด ํŠนํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฒซ ์•„์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์‹œ๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
36:21
it's just you're more realistic aboutย  what your life is going to be like.ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:27
So I would say talk to other people who have twoย  or three children or more when you're pregnantย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ฒซ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์ž„์‹ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‘ ๋ช… ๋˜๋Š” ์„ธ ๋ช… ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋‘” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
36:33
with your first child. Because I think it helps toย  give some perspective when you're worried about,ย ย 
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. ๊ฑฑ์ •๋  ๋•Œ ๊ด€์ ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—,
36:39
well, is this type of dish or washing detergent? Iย  know new mothers sometimes think I need to wash myย ย 
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์Œ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‹๊ธฐ์ธ๊ฐ€ ์„ธํƒ ์„ธ์ œ์ธ๊ฐ€? ์ดˆ๋ณด ์—„๋งˆ๋“ค์ด ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
36:47
baby's clothes and this specific type of soapย  or this, those little things that can reallyย ย 
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์•„๊ธฐ์˜ ์˜ท๊ณผ ํŠน์ • ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๋น„๋ˆ„๋ฅผ ์„ธํƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
36:52
stress you out. Talking to someone who's hadย  more children just chit-chatting with them. Orย ย 
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. ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋‘” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์žก๋‹ด์„ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š”
36:58
even if I know there's some great YouTube channelsย  of parents who have 11 children, don't look atย ย 
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11๋ช…์˜ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋‘” ๋ถ€๋ชจ์˜ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ฑ„๋„์€ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”
37:05
the crazy ones. Look at people who seem prettyย  normal, still. And it can be really groundingย ย 
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. ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฝค ์ •์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์„ธ์š” . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
37:11
to see their advice where we are thinking about,ย  "Oh, okay, we have two boys and then a baby girl."ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ถฉ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๊ทผ๊ฑฐ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
37:19
Are they all going to sleep in the same room? Whatย  are they going to do? We have three kids. So weย ย 
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๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ์ž๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ญ˜ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์„ธ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
37:24
have a lot of experience. But when you hear aboutย  someone who has six or seven children and you seeย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 6~7๋ช…์˜ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋‘” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ 
37:30
their life living situations, it helps giveย  you more perspective. So you feel not anxiousย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ƒํ™œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
37:38
about everything. There's some things that areย  worth spending a lot of time on, but in general,ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
37:44
I think that can help give you good perspective.ย  A little tip that I am just learning now.ย 
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์ข‹์€ ๊ด€์ ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ง‰ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ํŒ.
37:48
Dan: Oh, is a little late.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋Šฆ์—ˆ๋„ค์š”.
37:50
Vanessa: A little late, but it's not too late yet.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋Šฆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์ง ๋Šฆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:53
There's a very interesting book called The Fourthย  Trimester. And a lot of talk when you have a babyย ย 
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The Fourth Trimester๋ผ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฑ…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚ณ์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š”
37:59
is how to take care of the baby. What do you doย  with the baby? But a lot of the focus goes offย ย 
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์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ๋ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๊ธฐ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ž„์‹ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
38:05
of you when you're pregnant. It's like, "Oh,ย  your belly. Oh, the mom, mom, mom." But thenย ย 
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. "์˜ค, ๋ฐฐ. ์˜ค, ์—„๋งˆ, ์—„๋งˆ, ์—„๋งˆ." ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
38:09
when you have the baby, a lot of the focus is onย  the baby. So this book focuses on how to take careย ย 
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์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์•„๊ธฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์ ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์ฑ…์€ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
38:16
of yourself. And I guess the spoiler is that youย  don't take care of yourself. You have other peopleย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šคํฌ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋Œ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋Œ๋ด์ค„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
38:23
helping to take care of you, and you set up your- Dan:ย 
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, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜- Dan:
38:25
You need your pamper people. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์• ์ง€์ค‘์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
38:27
Yes. You set up your life so that the firstย  couple months after birth, you are taken care ofย ย 
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๋„ค. ์ƒํ›„ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ์€
38:34
because it can be a really big shock. It is goingย  to be a big shock starting your life as a mother.ย ย 
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์ •๋ง ํฐ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ณด์‚ดํ•Œ์„ ๋ฐ›๋„๋ก ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์„ค์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—„๋งˆ๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:41
And so I think this book would be extremelyย  helpful to a third time mother or a firstย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ์ฑ…์ด ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์—„๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์—„๋งˆ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
38:47
time mother. To help you be able to be yourย  best self so that you can come out of theย ย 
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.
38:54
first three months of having a baby andย  you feel stronger. You feel more capable,ย ย 
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์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚ณ์€ ํ›„ ์ฒซ 3๊ฐœ์›”์„ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜ ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•ด์ง„ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ๋Š๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ  ์‚ถ์˜
38:58
and you feel like ready for starting that new partย  of your life. Or I feel like that book would'veย ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ฑ…์ด
39:04
been very helpful to me. Maybe you live in aย  culture that really takes care of new mothers.ย ย 
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐ“๋‚œ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฌธํ™”์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:10
We don't. So I think the ideas in this book wereย  really helpful to me. So anyway, that's my advice.ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์ฑ…์˜ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์•”ํŠผ ์ œ ์ถฉ๊ณ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:16
Dan: I think I have another tip.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
39:17
Vanessa: Oh, okay.ย 
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39:17
Dan: First time mother. Yeah. Youย ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
๋Œ„: ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์ด์•ผ. ์‘.
39:19
should go to a birth class. Vanessa:ย 
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์ถœ์ƒ ์ˆ˜์—…์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
39:21
Definitely. Dan:ย 
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ์š”. ๋Œ„:
39:22
Yeah. Because we went to a class together that-ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—-
39:27
Vanessa: Go together. Yes.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ฐ€์š”. ์˜ˆ.
39:28
Dan: Make sure you bring your partner,ย ย 
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Dan: ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ,
39:29
your support person. Vanessa:ย 
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์ง€์› ๋‹ด๋‹น์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๋ฐ๋ ค์˜ค์„ธ์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
39:31
Yes. Dan:ย 
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39:31
And yeah, they just went over all the differentย  things you can do to not basically freak out andย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹นํ™ฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
39:42
help the person through it. What all the differentย  signs are during the labor so you're not totallyย ย 
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋„์™€์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋งŒ ์ค‘์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง•ํ›„๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ „ํ˜€
39:50
surprised. And I probably need a refresher lastย  time with Freddy, our second child, I just readย ย 
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๋†€๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ฒˆ์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ž๋…€์ธ ํ”„๋ ˆ๋””์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žฌ์ถฉ์ „์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:56
the paper over and I was like, "Oh yeah, those areย  the good tips." And so I was more prepared with-ย 
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์‹ ๋ฌธ์„ ์ฝ๊ณ  '์•„, ์ข‹์€ ํŒ์ด๋„ค์š”.'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋” ์ค€๋น„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:02
Vanessa: And he just came so fast thatย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์™€์„œ
40:04
there's no time to think. Dan:ย 
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
40:05
Yeah. But with your first, it will probably takeย  a lot longer. So it's good to be very prepared,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
40:11
especially the husbands out there, or partners ofย  various shapes and sizes and forms. Take a birthย ย 
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋‚จํŽธ ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ชจ์–‘๊ณผ ํฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ค€๋น„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:19
class with your wife or partner. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋‚ด๋‚˜ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ž์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
40:20
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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40:20
And yeah, you need to be prepared too. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๋„ค, ์ค€๋น„๋„ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
40:23
I think that sets you up for the birth, but itย  sets you up for being parents together. Becauseย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ถœ์‚ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:29
a lot of moms will have a pregnancy app on theirย  phone. I remember the first day of that pregnancyย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์—„๋งˆ๋“ค์ด ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”์— ์ž„์‹  ์•ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ž„์‹  ์ฒซ๋‚ 
40:33
or the birth class. The teacher asked us, "Soย  who has a pregnancy app on your phone? Allย ย 
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๋˜๋Š” ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๋ฌผ์œผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”์— ์ž„์‹  ์•ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
40:39
of the women raise their hands." And they said,ย  "Okay guys, which one of you have a pregnancy appย ย 
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์—ฌ์ž๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์†์„ ๋“ ๋‹ค." ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”์— ์ž„์‹  ์•ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”
40:45
on your phone?" And none of the men raise theirย  hands? So if you're the one who's not pregnant,ย ย 
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?" ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์†์„ ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž„์‹ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด,
40:51
doing a birth class together, or just even havingย  a day where you go over some birth articles orย ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ถœ์‚ฐ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ฃ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ถœ์‚ฐ ๊ด€๋ จ ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ›‘์–ด๋ณด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
41:00
watch a couple birth videos together, those typesย  of things. It sets you up to be partners with yourย ย 
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์ถœ์‚ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๋‚ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์•„๊ธฐ์™€ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋„๋ก ์„ค์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:06
baby. It's not just the mom's duty. There's a lotย  that is on the mom that the mom has to do and theย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์—„๋งˆ์˜ ์˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ๊ณผ
41:12
other person can't do. But in general, thatย  mindset that you're in this together is reallyย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์—„๋งˆ์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง์ด ์ •๋ง
41:19
important. So yeah, that was a good tip. Dan:ย 
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์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ํŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
41:22
Thank you. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
41:23
Thank you everyone. Well, thank you soย  much for asking your pressing questionsย ย 
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๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ,
41:28
about our third baby. If you enjoyed thisย  conversation, we did have a conversationย ย 
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์ €ํฌ ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์•„๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ธด๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šฐ์…จ๋‹ค๋ฉด
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about polite and rude questions that youย  can ask someone who's pregnant when I wasย ย 
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pregnant with my first child six years ago.ย  And you can watch that video up here. Andย ย 
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6๋…„ ์ „ ์ฒซ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์ž„์‹ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ž„์‹ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ •์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
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that will just expand your culturalย  knowledge, but also vocabulary aboutย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ์ง€์‹์„ ๋„“ํž ๋ฟ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
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talking about babies in pregnancy in English.ย  Well, thank you so much, Dan, for joining me.ย 
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์ž„์‹  ์ค‘์ธ ์•„๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–ดํœ˜๋„ ํ™•์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋Œ„.
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Dan: You're welcome.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”.
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Vanessa: I really appreciate it. I hope you enjoyedย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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our spontaneous conversation. A lot came up a lotย  of great vocabulary and ideas, and I hope that youย ย 
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์ž๋ฐœ์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€ ์–ดํœ˜์™€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ๋– ์˜ฌ๋ž๊ณ ,
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could expand your English knowledge, like always.ย  You are welcome to download the free PDF worksheetย ย 
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์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์˜์–ด ์ง€์‹์„ ๋„“ํž ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ œ๊ณต๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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that goes along with this conversation. All of theย  vocabulary, ideas, sample sentences, anything thatย ย 
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. ๋ชจ๋“  ์–ดํœ˜, ์•„์ด๋””์–ด, ์˜ˆ๋ฌธ,
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came up, you can download in that free worksheet.ย  It is our gift to you to help you be able toย ย 
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๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ์— ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
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empower yourself with English and birth. Dan:ย 
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์˜์–ด์™€ ์ถœ์‚ฐ์— ํž˜์„ ์‹ค์–ด์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋•๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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Well, thanks so much forย  learning English with me and Dan.ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
์Œ, ์ €์™€ Dan๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Dan: And me.ย 
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Vanessa: And we'll see you again next Friday for aย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜.
Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์—
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new lesson here on my YouTube channel. Bye. Dan:ย 
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์ œ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐ•์˜๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•. ๋Œ„:
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Bye. Vanessa:ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•. Vanessa:
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But wait, do you want more? I recommendย  watching this video next. Which is theย ย 
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์ž ๊น๋งŒ์š”, ๋” ์›ํ•˜์„ธ์š”? ๋‹ค์Œ์— ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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one I just mentioned, where you will learn theย  top polite and rude questions that you shouldย ย 
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์—์„œ
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never ask someone who's pregnant. Make sureย  that you are polite and you are kind to theย ย 
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์ž„์‹ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ์ •์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์นœ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜์„ธ์š”
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people around you. Watch that video to findย  out what they are and I'll see you there.
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. ํ•ด๋‹น ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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