LIVING in a FANTASY world / English Addict ExTra / LIVE CHAT / WED 4th May 2022

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English Addict with Mr Duncan


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

03:20
Oh, this is the exciting part.
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์˜ค, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
When everything begins. Here we go.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์ž‘๋  ๋•Œ. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:27
We are back together once more.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋Œ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:29
Hello to everyone out there. Are you ready?
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๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์ค€๋น„ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
03:33
Are you ready to rumble? Here we go.
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๋Ÿผ๋ธ” ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:36
English addict with you once again, coming to you
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๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž,
03:40
from a very wet and soggy
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์•„์ฃผ ์ถ•์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ถ•์ถ•ํ•œ
03:45
birthplace of the English language,
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์˜์–ด์˜ ๋ฐœ์ƒ์ง€์ธ
03:48
which just happens to be England.
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์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ฐพ์•„๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
Yemeni M.M., M.M., Mahmood
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์˜ˆ๋ฉ˜ M.M., M.M., Mahmood
04:06
Hi, everybody.
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04:06
This is Mr.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
์ €๋Š”
04:07
Duncan in England.
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์˜๊ตญ์˜ Mr. Duncan์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
How are you today? Are you okay?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋– ์„ธ์š”? ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์„ธ์š”?
04:12
I hope so.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํฌ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค.
04:14
Are you feeling happy?
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๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹๋‹ˆ?
04:16
Are you feeling
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04:19
happy today?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹๋‹ˆ?
04:22
I hope you are feeling good.
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๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:23
Here we go again for those who don't know what this is.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ญ”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:27
Well, this is the Internet.
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์ž, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:30
This is where anything can happen.
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์ด๊ณณ์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด๋“  ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:33
And quite often anything does happen.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด๋“  ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
Here we go again.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:37
Yes, it is.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:39
English addict with myself, Mr. Duncan.
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๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž, Mr. Duncan.
04:41
I am one of those.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
You see, I am an English addict,
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž
04:47
and I have a feeling that you might be one of those as well.
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์ด๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋А๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:51
We are back together again live.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:54
There are still
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์•„์ง๋„
04:55
people who don't believe that this is live.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:58
It is live.
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๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:00
100%.
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100%.
05:03
I can promise you that right now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ์•ฝ์†ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:06
And I hope you are having a good day.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ข‹์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:09
We have made it all the way to the middle of the week
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
05:13
without blowing ourselves up. Yet
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋‚ ๋ ค ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ฃผ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง
05:17
it's Wednesday
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์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์ด์•ผ
05:33
baby, baby,
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๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„
05:34
baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby,
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,
05:38
baby, baby.
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๋ฒ ์ด๋น„, ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„.
05:42
We are back together and I hope you are having
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
05:44
a superduper Wednesday so far today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์Šˆํผ ๋“€ํผ ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
I hope it's turning out exactly
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05:51
how you dreamt it would hmm.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฟˆ๊พธ๋˜ ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ .
05:57
You're not feeling too bad today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋‚˜์˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:59
My voice.
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๋‚ด ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ.
06:00
I don't know why my voice cannot decide whether it wants to work or not.
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๋‚ด ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘๋™ํ• ์ง€ ์—ฌ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
06:06
I have a slight sore throat.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชฉ์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์•„ํ”„๋‹ค.
06:09
I don't know why,
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์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ
06:11
but I've just had some water, and I feel much better now.
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๋ฌผ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋งˆ์…จ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
Here we go. Yes, it is a wet one today.
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์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์Šตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:18
I will be honest with you.
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์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:19
We have had a lot of rain over the past 12 hours.
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์ง€๋‚œ 12์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋งŽ์€ ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
You can see outside, there are some rain clouds
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๋ฐ–์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด
06:29
in the sky looking very ominous.
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ํ•˜๋Š˜์— ๋น„๊ตฌ๋ฆ„์ด ์•„์ฃผ ๋ถˆ๊ธธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:33
Oh, I like that. Word.
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์˜ค, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์–ด.
06:35
If something is ominous,
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๋ถˆ๊ธธํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด
06:38
it means it might bring danger
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์œ„ํ—˜์„ ์ดˆ๋ž˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์ฃผ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์†์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:42
or maybe damage something that is
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06:44
seen as a warning. Even
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.
06:49
so, there is the view out of my studio window right now.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚ด ์ž‘์—…์‹ค ์ฐฝ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ํ’๊ฒฝ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค .
06:53
And yes, we are back together again
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ญ‰์ณค๊ณ 
06:56
and it's ever so nice to be with you.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:59
It really is.
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์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
And I hope you are having a good Wednesday
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์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:03
this is English Addict Extra.
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English Addict Extra์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:06
Of course, we have together time on Sunday.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:12
We are together on Sunday.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ์š”์ผ์— ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
From 2 p.m.
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์˜คํ›„ 2์‹œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
07:15
but also during the week as well.
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๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ฃผ์ค‘์—๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:18
I like to give you something extra
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฃผ์ค‘์— ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ 
07:21
during the week and I hope you enjoy it.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:25
Thank you very much for joining me today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:29
Of course, we have the live chat.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:31
Hello, live chat. Nice to see you here.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€
07:34
Congratulations to Victoria and Victoria against what you are.
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๋น…ํ† ๋ฆฌ์•„์™€ ๋น…ํ† ๋ฆฌ์•„์—๊ฒŒ ์ถ•ํ•˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
07:39
First on today's live chat.
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๋จผ์ € ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—์„œ.
07:42
Congratulations to you mm.
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mm๋‹˜ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:55
Good.
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์ข‹์€.
07:56
That's great. That's fantastic.
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ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:58
Congratulations to you also Beatrice,
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Beatrice๋„ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:01
we have Mosen here as well.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— Mosen๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:05
We also have Beatrice.
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๋ฒ ์•„ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ฒด๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:08
Did I just say Beatrice?
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ฒ ์•„ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ฒด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
08:12
Maybe I'm stuck in a time loop.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํƒ€์ž„๋ฃจํ”„์— ๊ฐ‡ํžŒ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋‹ค.
08:14
Maybe that is what is happening. Palmyra.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ.
08:17
We also have Vitesse.
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๋น„ํ…Œ์„ธ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:19
Hello, Vitesse.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ๋น„ํ…Œ์„ธ.
08:21
You are not first today.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ฒ˜์Œ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:24
Unfortunately, we also have.
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๋ถˆํ–‰ํžˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:28
I think I've said hello to Vittoria.
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Vittoria์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:30
We also have oh, hello to
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์˜ค,
08:36
Louis Mendez is here today.
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Louis Mendez์—๊ฒŒ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
Thank you very much. Louis,
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Louis,
08:42
can I also say thank you very much for your lovely message?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
08:45
Last week I received a lovely email from Louis
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์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์— ์ €๋Š” Louis๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
08:49
just reassuring me that I'm still young
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ง ์ Š๊ณ 
08:54
and I have my health.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค์™€์˜
08:56
I am feeling much better after my little adventure
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์ž‘์€ ๋ชจํ—˜ ํ›„์— ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„์กŒ์ง€๋งŒ
09:00
with Corona virus, but I am feeling much better.
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๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:03
Thank you very much.
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
There are certain parts of my body that are still not working properly.
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๋‚ด ๋ชธ์—๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํŠน์ • ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:09
There are some things that are still a little strange,
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09:13
although I think I had those before I caught COVID.
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COVID์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ
09:20
I think some of those things my might already
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๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์กด์žฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:24
exist, to be honest.
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.
09:26
Oh, I'm going out tonight.
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์•„, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐค์— ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
09:28
I know you are always interested to find out what happens in my life.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:32
I know it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
09:33
Yes, you are on to you.
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์˜ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:36
Is any one
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09:38
tonight. I'm off to see a show Mr.
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋ฐค์€ ์•„๋ฌด๋‚˜.
09:41
Steve myself and also one of our friends is going to see.
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Steve ์”จ์™€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:45
We are going to see a lovely amateur dramatic show tonight.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜๋ฐค ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์•„๋งˆ์ถ”์–ด ๋“œ๋ผ๋งˆ ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
And I think we are also having a meal before that as well.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ „์—๋„ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
09:54
So just in case you're watching, Martin. Hello, Martin.
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๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋งˆํ‹ด. ์•ˆ๋…•, ๋งˆํ‹ด.
09:57
We will see you later.
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:59
And we are going to see
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
10:02
a show called Kinky Boots.
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Kinky Boots๋ผ๋Š” ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:07
I have to be honest with you, I've never heard of the show.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •์งํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‡ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:10
I've never seen any of this show.
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๋‚˜๋Š”์ด ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค.
10:14
I know nothing about it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค.
10:15
So everything that happens tonight
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐค์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์€
10:19
will be a big surprise.
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ํฐ ๋†€๋ผ์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:21
So I can't wait for that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
I'm assuming we are going for a carry.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์บ๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:27
Are we are we having to carry later?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์šด๋ฐ˜ํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
10:30
Oh, no, I am excited. I really am.
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์•„๋‡จ, ํฅ๋ถ„๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง์ด์•ผ.
10:33
Hello also to Jemmy.
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Jemmy์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
10:35
Jemmy from Hong Kong is here as well. Also
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ํ™์ฝฉ์—์„œ ์˜จ Jemmy๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ
10:43
who else is here today?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋˜ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
10:45
Let's have a look.
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10:45
Fernando. Magdalena.
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ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
ํŽ˜๋ฅด๋‚œ๋„. ๋ง‰๋‹ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜.
10:48
Hello, Magdalena. Nice to see you back.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ๋ง‰๋‹ฌ๋ ˆ๋‚˜. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:52
It feels like a long time since we were here
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ณณ์— ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜ค๋žœ๋งŒ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ
10:56
together, but nice to see you back as well.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”.
10:59
Z Seeker is here.
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Z ์‹œ์ปค๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:01
We also have
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ
11:04
moving down the list,
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๋ชฉ๋ก ์•„๋ž˜๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:07
Samir, Samir al Mir, who says
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Samir, Samir al Mir๋Š”
11:13
Oh well, those look like tears. Why?
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์˜ค ์ž˜, ๋ˆˆ๋ฌผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ?
11:16
Why are you crying? Don't cry.
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์™œ ์šฐ๋Š”๊ฑฐ์•ผ? ์šธ์ง€๋งˆ
11:19
Cheer up, everyone.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ํž˜๋‚ด์„ธ์š”.
11:20
Also, we have a morale.
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๋˜ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:24
Marwan
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๋งˆ๋ฅด์™„
11:28
welcome back.
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ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:30
Today Galip is here as well.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ฐˆ๋ฆฝ๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:33
Mohammed is here.
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๋ชจํ•˜๋ฉ”๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:35
Mohammed el Sanji.
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๋ชจํ•˜๋ฉ”๋“œ ์—˜ ์‚ฐ์ง€.
11:38
I hope I pronounce your name correctly.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:41
And also hello to do so.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์…”๋„ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
We also have Alexandro, and we have.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ Alexandro๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
Who else is here today?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋˜ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์™”๋‹ˆ?
11:52
Oh, I'm just trying to read your name,
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์•„, ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ฝ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
11:58
but unfortunately it is not in English.
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์•„์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ๋„ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:01
But I will say hello to you anyway, and thank you very much for your lovely comment.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์ธ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ๊ณ , ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ๋Œ“๊ธ€ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:06
About my voice. Your voice is sweet.
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๋‚ด ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ฌ์ฝคํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:10
Well, I'm not sure if everyone agrees with that.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋™์˜ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:14
A lot of people don't like my voice.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค.
12:16
They say it's very annoying.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์„ฑ๊ฐ€์‹  ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:18
Mr. Duncan, sometimes your voice is very annoying.
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Duncan ์”จ, ๊ฐ€๋” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์„ฑ๊ฐ€์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:24
Well, I will try my best to please everyone.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:28
Of course, the problem with doing
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”
12:30
that is if you try to please everyone, you eventually please
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ
12:36
no one, because you can never please everyone.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:40
That is the problem.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ ์•ผ.
12:42
Today, we are looking at fantasy because today
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜์ด 5์›” 4์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ™˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
12:45
is the 4th of May,
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,
12:49
and a lot of people now have adopted this day
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
12:52
as Star Wars Day because it is May.
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5์›”์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ๋‚ ์„ ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ ๋ฐ์ด๋กœ ์ฑ„ํƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:56
The Fourth, you say may the force be with you. Hmm.
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๋„ท์งธ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํž˜์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ .
13:02
Yes, I remember as a child way back
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š”
13:06
in the 1970s, the late 1970s, we used to make that joke
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1970๋…„๋Œ€, 1970๋…„๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜์— ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋†๋‹ด์ด
13:11
many years ago before it became trendy.
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์œ ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์— ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
So yes, we know all about that.
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์˜ˆ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:17
As older people
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13:20
who were around when Star Wars
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์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ๊ฐ€
13:24
was originally released in the cinemas.
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์›๋ž˜ ์˜ํ™”๊ด€์—์„œ ๊ฐœ๋ด‰๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋…ธ์ธ๋“ค๋กœ์„œ.
13:27
So I remember a period of time
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
13:30
before there was anything called Star Wars
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์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ์ „์˜ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:35
and then suddenly it arrived
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ๊ฐ€ ๋„๋ž˜ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
13:37
and the world seemed to change in many ways,
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์„ธ์ƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:41
certainly the way in which movies are made
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ
13:45
and produced changed because of that one movie.
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๊ทธ ํ•œ ํŽธ์˜ ์˜ํ™” ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์ œ์ž‘๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:50
But hello to everyone and oh hello
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
13:53
to Fam Fam to trend.
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Fam Fam to trend์— ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
13:56
Yes, it is May the fourth.
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๋„ค, 5์›” 4์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:58
And today we are looking at living in reality
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ๊ฐ€ ์ข…์ข… ํ™˜์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ˜„์‹ค์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
14:02
or living in a fantasy see,
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ํ™˜์ƒ ์†์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:06
because of course Star Wars is often
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14:09
categorised as being fantasy.
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.
14:13
It is something that is not real it has been created.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:18
So it is not real.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง„์งœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:20
It is not reality, although sometimes it is possible
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹Œ
14:24
to slip into a situation
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์ƒํ™ฉ
14:28
or a way of life that is not real.
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์ด๋‚˜ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋น ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:32
However, the person living that life
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
14:35
believes that it is real.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง„์งœ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:38
So it is possible to slip from reality, which is this
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ˜„์‹ค์—์„œ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์‹ค์—์„œ
14:45
to fantasy,
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ํŒํƒ€์ง€๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
14:46
which is something else quite different indeed.
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์ฐธ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:52
Can I say hello to my son?
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์•„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
14:54
Hello, Mazen. Nice to see you.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๋งˆ์  ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ.
14:57
He is.
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14:57
Well, it's a good day to be with us.
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๊ทธ๋Š”.
๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ข‹์€ ๋‚ ์ด์•ผ.
15:00
Thank you very much.
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:03
There are subtitle calls.
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์ž๋ง‰ ํ˜ธ์ถœ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:04
If you want to have captions, you can.
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์ž๋ง‰์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:07
I often forget to mention that during the live stream
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๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ ์ค‘์—
15:12
there are live captions
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๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์บก์…˜์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
15:15
and you can activate the captions
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15:19
by pressing sea on your keyboard.
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ํ‚ค๋ณด๋“œ์—์„œ sea๋ฅผ ๋ˆŒ๋Ÿฌ ์บก์…˜์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์ข…์ข… ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:22
So yes, you can have captions.
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์˜ˆ, ์บก์…˜์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:25
I mean, I mean Sheeran of
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์ œ ๋ง์€ Sheeran of Sheeran์ด
15:28
we do actually have live captions
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์บก์…˜์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
15:32
and we also have recorded captions as well later on.
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์บก์…˜๋„ ๋…น์Œํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:38
So if you are watching the replay,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฆฌํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ด ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ์˜
15:42
if you are watching the recorded version of this live stream,
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๋…นํ™”๋œ ๋ฒ„์ „์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
15:46
then you can also have captions as well.
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์บก์…˜๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:50
It's nice to be back with you today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:55
So we are looking at fantasy.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:57
There are two ways of living your life.
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์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ธ
16:00
You can live in reality
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ํ˜„์‹ค์—์„œ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜๋„
16:04
which is this
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16:07
or you can live in fantasy,
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์žˆ๊ณ  ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํ™˜์ƒ ์†์—์„œ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:10
which is something that is not real.
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.
16:13
You might be amazed to find out
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16:16
just how many people live their lives
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
16:19
in a fantasy world.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๋ฉด ๋†€๋ž„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:23
They don't live in reality and I suppose there are many situations
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ˜„์‹ค์— ์‚ด์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ผ์ƒ์ƒํ™œ์„ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋งŽ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:28
where a person might find it difficult to cope
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16:34
or to handle
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16:36
daily life.
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.
16:37
So maybe moving into a fantasy world
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
16:41
or creating fantasy for yourself is a way of coping
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์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ™˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
16:46
or dealing with the pressures of reality.
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ํ˜„์‹ค์˜ ์••๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:51
So I'm sure we do it sometimes.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:52
We all sometimes like to daydream.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋ฐฑ์ผ๋ชฝ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:58
I do it, and I'm pretty sure you do it as well.
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๋‚˜๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋„ˆ๋„ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ด.
17:01
During your daytime, you will suddenly drift away in your mind.
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๋‚ฎ์—๋Š” ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:06
You will not.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:07
You will probably imagine doing a different job.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:11
Perhaps you will imagine
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
17:14
having a completely different life with a completely different person.
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ–ˆ๋”๋ผ๋„
17:18
Maybe
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17:19
you dream about finding that perfect partner
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:24
even if you're already married, it can happen.
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. ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:28
So even a husband or wife might fantasise, they might daydream
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‚จํŽธ์ด๋‚˜ ์•„๋‚ด๋„ ์ด๋ฏธ ์—ฐ์•  ์ค‘์ด๋”๋ผ๋„ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ณต์ƒ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:35
about finding that perfect person,
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17:38
even if they are already in a relationship.
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17:43
So I think it's fair to say that we all do it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:46
We all drift away sometimes in our minds.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋งˆ์Œ ์†์—์„œ ํ‘œ๋ฅ˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:50
We like to daydream.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฑ์ผ๋ชฝ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:52
However, I always think that daydreaming is a short thing.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐฑ์ผ๋ชฝ์ด ์งง์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:58
It doesn't really affect your life in any way,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
18:01
but it is possible to turn those fantasies
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ™˜์ƒ์„
18:06
into something that's become a big part of your life.
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๋‹น์‹  ์‚ถ์˜ ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:11
And I think that's the danger when your fantasies that you have in your head
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์— ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ์ด
18:16
somehow become involved in the reality of your life.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ๋“  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ถ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋  ๋•Œ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:20
And I have met a lot of people.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:23
I've met people I've had people in my life who
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์‚ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:29
don't exactly live in the real world.
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18:33
They have I suppose I would call it a fantasy life,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์‚ถ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:38
or they believe that this reality is their fantasy
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๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํ™˜์ƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ณ 
18:44
and sometimes the other way around, maybe they believe their fantasy is their reality.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํ™˜์ƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:50
It can happen.
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์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:51
Palmyra does not like Star Wars.
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ํŒ”๋ฏธ๋ผ๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:56
It's OK.
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18:56
I still like you. It's all right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”.
๋‚œ ์•„์ง๋„ ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„.
18:58
You don't have to like it.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:00
I'm a big fan of Star Wars.
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์ €๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ์˜ ์—ด๋ ฌํ•œ ํŒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:02
It changed my child.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊ฟจ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:04
Hood way back in 1978
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ํ›„๋“œ๋Š” 1978๋…„
19:08
when I went to see Star Wars for the first time.
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์Šฌ๋Ÿฌ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:11
And it did change my life, I suppose
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š”
19:15
we all have to have something that we enjoy.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:19
We all have to have some sort of escape.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํƒˆ์ถœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:22
So we often see fantasy as
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ํ™˜์ƒ์„ ์‹ค์ƒํ™œ์˜ ๊ณ ๋œ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํƒˆ์ถœ๊ตฌ๋กœ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:27
a type of escape
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19:30
from the dread
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19:33
of real life drudge.
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19:36
It's a great word that when we talk about Drudge,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ Drudge์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ
19:40
we mean the boring things, the things that seem to go on forever.
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์ง€๋ฃจํ•œ ๊ฒƒ, ์˜์›ํžˆ ๊ณ„์†๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:45
Maybe in your daily life, if you have something you have to do every day,
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ๋งค์ผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
19:51
the same thing again, and again
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๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์ด ๋ฐ˜๋ณต๋˜๊ณ 
19:55
and again, we often describe this as Drudge.
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๋ฐ˜๋ณต๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ Drudge๋ผ๊ณ  ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:00
It's a great word.
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์ข‹์€ ๋ง์”€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:01
In fact, I will put that on the live chat.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์— ์˜ฌ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:04
Do you mind?
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์„ธ์š”?
20:05
I'm just going to put that
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๋‚˜๋Š”
20:10
there it is.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„ฃ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:13
Drudge.
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๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ ํ•˜๋‹ค.
20:16
It's a great word.
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์ข‹์€ ๋ง์”€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:17
It means something that is the same, something that is tedious.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ, ์ง€๋ฃจํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
20:22
Or something repetitive that you have to keep doing again and again.
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๋˜๋Š” ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์„œ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์ ์ธ ์ž‘์—….
20:28
The word is Drudge.
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๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” Drudge์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:30
I like that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
20:32
I hope you enjoyed it as well.
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:36
Petraeus says, I like to put a bit of fantasy in my life every day,
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Petraeus๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํŒํƒ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„
20:40
but not Star Wars fantasy.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ ํŒํƒ€์ง€๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:44
So you never get the urge.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ถฉ๋™์„ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:46
You never feel as if you want to dress up like Princess Leia.
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๋ ˆ์ด์•„ ๊ณต์ฃผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ฐจ๋ ค์ž…๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:52
Or an E walk.
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๋˜๋Š” E ์›Œํฌ.
20:54
You never feel the urge to do that.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ถฉ๋™์„ ๋А๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„
20:58
Have you ever been to a science fiction convention
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๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™ ๋Œ€ํšŒ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
21:04
across the world?
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21:05
There are lots of conventions, lots of
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๋งŽ์€ ์ปจ๋ฒค์…˜๊ณผ
21:09
group meetings where people come together
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ทธ๋ฃน ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:11
and they will all share their love
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
21:14
of a certain type of fantasy, maybe Star Wars,
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ํŠน์ • ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ํŒํƒ€์ง€, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ,
21:18
maybe Lord of the Rings,
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ฐ˜์ง€
21:22
which is coming back by the way, Lord of the Rings is coming back.
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์˜ ์ œ์™•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๊ณ ์žˆ๋‹ค.
21:26
They've made a TV show.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ TV ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:28
Can you believe it?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
21:30
Will it be successful
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์„ฑ๊ณตํ• ๊นŒ์š”,
21:33
or will it be just a load of Wolk nonsense?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด Wolk ๋„Œ์„ผ์Šค์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
21:36
We will have to wait and see.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ค์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:38
Perhaps you like Harry Potter.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ด๋ฆฌ ํฌํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:40
Maybe you like dressing up like Harry Potter.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ํ•ด๋ฆฌํฌํ„ฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์˜ท์„ ์ž…๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:46
Or who's the other guy?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
21:49
Who's the big hairy guy?
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๋Œ€๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์•ผ?
21:51
Is it hard to rid Hagrid, Hagrid,
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Hagrid, Hagrid, Hagrid๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
21:55
Hagrid,
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21:57
maybe you like dressing up as Hagrid
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ Hagrid๋กœ ์˜ท์„ ์ž…๊ณ 
22:01
and walking around the streets
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๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑท๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:05
hello, Mohammed.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, Mohammed.
22:06
Hello, all. So Vitesse.
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๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ์•ˆ๋…•. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋น„ํ…Œ์„ธ.
22:08
Vitesse says hard worker bridge, hard work. Yes.
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Vitesse๋Š” ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ, ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์„ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
22:13
Labour normally things that that you have to do again and again.
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๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์„œ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ์ •์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค .
22:17
No one likes to have their daily drudge.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ๋…ธ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:21
We can also describe it as drudgery.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ ๋œ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:24
As well.
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22:24
Drudgery, the daily drudge of life.
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๋˜ํ•œ.
๊ณ ์—ญ, ์‚ถ์˜ ์ผ์ƒ ๊ณ ์—ญ.
22:30
You have to work every day.
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๋งค์ผ ์ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Hello๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
22:31
You have to do the same things over and over again
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๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:38
as though says Hello.
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.
22:40
What does the sentence may the force be with you?
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์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
22:44
Well, it is actually what we call a play on words.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์žฅ๋‚œ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:48
So instead of saying, may the force be with you,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜์ด 5์›” 4์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํž˜์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž€๋‹ค๊ณ 
22:53
we say, may the force be with you
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ํž˜์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:56
because today is May the fourth.
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.
22:59
So you might say that it is a kind of pun or joke.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ง์žฅ๋‚œ์ด๋‚˜ ๋†๋‹ด์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:05
We are
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23:05
taking one sentence and turning it into something else.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์žฅ์„ ์ทจํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:09
So that's the reason why we're doing that today.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:13
So that's what we're looking at in a few moments.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž ์‹œ ํ›„์— ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:17
Talking of work
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์ผ ์–˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™€์„œ
23:21
can I just send
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23:22
some lovely congratulations to someone in Brazil?
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ถ•ํ•˜ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
23:26
I know I have a lot of viewers in Brazil, but here is a story
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์— ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ,
23:30
that really made me smile this morning.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ์— ์ €๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์›ƒ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 85๋…„ ๋„˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•ด ์˜จ
23:34
Congratulations to 100 year old Brazilian man
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100์„ธ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ๋‚จ์„ฑ
23:38
Walter Ofman,
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Walter Ofman์ด
23:42
who has worked for the same company
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23:45
for over 85 years, having started work at the age of 15.
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15์„ธ์— ์ผ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:51
So he actually started working for the same company
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:56
that he still works for now.
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.
23:59
At the age of 15.
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15์„ธ.
24:02
And now he is 100 years old.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋Š” 100์„ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:05
And guess what?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ถ”์ธกํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
24:07
He is still working for the same company
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
24:12
100 year old Brazilian
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100์„ธ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ
24:13
man becomes the longest serving employee of a company.
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๋‚จ์„ฑ์ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ตœ์žฅ์ˆ˜ ์ง์›์ด ๋œ๋‹ค.
24:18
As I said, his name is Walter Altman and he has worked
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๊ทธ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ Walter Altman์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š”
24:22
for the same company for over 85 years.
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85๋…„ ์ด์ƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:27
Can you imagine for a moment
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24:31
working for the same company,
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๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ
24:34
doing the same job for 85 years?
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85๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž ์‹œ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
24:39
I have to be honest with you, I don't think I could do that.
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
24:42
I think I might go a little bit crazy
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฏธ์ณ๋ฒ„๋ฆด์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋‹ค
24:48
Walter was officially added
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์›”ํ„ฐ๋Š”
24:50
to the Guinness Book of Records during a special ceremony,
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ํŠน๋ณ„ ํ–‰์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๊ณต์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋„ค์Šค๋ถ์— ๋“ฑ์žฌ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—
24:55
so there he is there is Walter receiving his special award.
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์›”ํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ํŠน๋ณ„์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:59
And also he has been officially added
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋Š”
25:04
to the Guinness Book of Records
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25:07
for being the longest serving employee of one company
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ํ•œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ•œ ์ง์›์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋„ค์Šค๋ถ์— ๊ณต์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ฑ์žฌ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:13
for the longest period of time ever.
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.
25:16
Congratulations, Walter.
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์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ด, ์›”ํ„ฐ.
25:18
I wonder how many more years he will be working for that company.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋” ์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:23
I suppose we can all ask that question
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:26
from time to time.
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.
25:30
How much longer will I be doing this?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€?
25:33
How much longer
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25:36
will I be here on YouTube?
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YouTube์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์„ ์˜ˆ์ •์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
25:38
I sometimes ask that question
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์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ทธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋”
25:42
sometimes I ask it to myself just before I start my live stream.
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์ƒ๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ง์ „์— ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:46
How much longer?
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋”?
25:48
How much longer can I carry on doing this?
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์ด ์ผ์„ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋” ๊ณ„์†ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
25:52
Maybe another five years, perhaps another 20 years,
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ 5๋…„, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด 20๋…„,
25:58
maybe another 50 years.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด 50๋…„ ๋”. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
26:01
I suppose it depends on how long I live for.
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์‚ฌ๋А๋ƒ์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:03
So if my life is short and I die
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์ด ์งง๊ณ 
26:07
at an early age, then then I won't be doing it for very long.
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์ด๋ฅธ ๋‚˜์ด์— ์ฃฝ๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:12
Really, when you think about it,
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์ •๋ง ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด
26:17
hello also to Florence.
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ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ Œ์Šค๋„ ์•ˆ๋…•.
26:21
Hello, Florence.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ Œ์Šค.
26:22
Congratulations to this man, Walt. Sir.
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์ถ•ํ•˜๋ฅผ ์ „ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์›”ํŠธ. ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜.
26:26
Yes, working for the same company
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์˜ˆ, ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ
26:31
the for over 85 years
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85๋…„ ์ด์ƒ ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
26:36
amazing.
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:38
I'm impressed.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐ๋™.
26:40
Now, in the past I'm only talking about here
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์ž, ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ
26:44
in England in the past we used to sometimes work for a company
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์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ 
26:49
and we would expect to stay with that company for many years.
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๊ทธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋จธ๋ฌผ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:54
Although these days I think things have changed quite often, especially with young people.
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์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ํŠนํžˆ ์ Š์€์ด๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:00
I don't think young people want
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ Š์€์ด๋“ค์ด
27:05
to stay in the same job forever and ever.
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๊ฐ™์€ ์ง์—…์— ์˜์›ํžˆ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:10
So in the past, for example, I suppose my father
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์—๋Š” ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€
27:13
and my grandfather I suppose I would think that they
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์™€ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€
27:16
they started their job at an early age
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ๋‚˜์ด์— ์ผ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ
27:20
and then did it for many years, the same job for many many years.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํ•ด ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํ•ด ๋™์•ˆ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:25
But I think these days
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์š”์ฆ˜์€
27:28
I think a lot of people don't want to do that.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹ซ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
27:31
They actually don't want to do the same job
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ˆ˜๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:35
for many, many years.
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.
27:38
So I've been doing this now for nearly 16 years on YouTube,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ 16๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ YouTube์—์„œ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:43
16 years I can't believe it.
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16๋…„์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:47
But before that, of course I've done other jobs, I've had lots of jobs in my life,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ „์—๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:52
lots of situations lots of interesting jobs,
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์ƒํ™ฉ๋„ ๋งŽ๊ณ  ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ๋„ ๋งŽ์•˜๊ณ 
27:56
and sometimes lots of
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
28:00
not so interesting jobs.
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๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ผ๋„ ๋งŽ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:04
So one of the things about finding work,
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๊ตฌ์ง์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜,
28:07
one of the things about finding a job
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๊ตฌ์ง์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
28:10
is that sometimes you have no choice
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์„ ํƒ์˜ ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:14
sometimes you don't have much choice of the job that you take.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์„ ํƒ์˜ ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:18
So that has happened to me in my life.
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์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:21
Sometimes you have to take the job that you can find.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜์žˆ๋Š” ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:26
It might not be the best job in the world.
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์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ์ง์—…์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:28
It might not be a satisfying job.
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๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ž‘์—…์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:31
However, you do get paid,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ 
28:36
and sometimes that is the most important part of it.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:40
Hello, Paul Ley.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ํด ๋ ˆ์ด.
28:42
Hello, Paul Lay this May on the 17th.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ด๋ฒˆ 5์›” 17์ผ Paul Lay์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:47
My father in law will turn 100 years old congratulations.
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์‹œ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ 100์„ธ ์ƒ์ผ์„ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:55
I will also tell him about the story that you shared recently.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋‚˜๋ˆˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
28:59
Yes. Well, what I find amazing about that
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์˜ˆ. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์›”ํ„ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
29:02
that story about Walter
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29:06
is that he still works for the company.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:10
I think he's still working that's incredible.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ์ƒ
29:13
So imagine that.
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ํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
29:14
Imagine enjoying your job so much
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29:17
that you are willing to do it for 85 years.
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85๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ •๋„๋กœ ์ผ์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
29:23
Incredible.
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๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š”.
29:25
Hello to Beyond Awake.
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Beyond Awake์— ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
29:28
Hello Beyond Awake.
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์•ˆ๋…• ๋น„์š˜๋“œ ์–ด์›จ์ดํฌ.
29:30
Nice to see you back as well.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:32
So we also have Luanne.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Luanne๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:35
Luanne Trevisan, who says I am your number one fan.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ํŒฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” Luanne Trevisan.
29:40
Thank you very much.
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:43
Pedro. Hello, Pedro.
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ํŽ˜๋“œ๋กœ. ์•ˆ๋…•, ํŽ˜๋“œ๋กœ.
29:45
Or should I say Pedro? Belmont
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํŽ˜๋“œ๋กœ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ๋ฒจ๋ชฌํŠธ๋Š”
29:48
is here today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:50
I won't be here very long.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:52
Only about 10 minutes.
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์•ฝ 10๋ถ„๋งŒ.
29:54
That's all right, Pedro.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„, ํŽ˜๋“œ๋กœ.
29:55
It's lovely to see you here anyway.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ต™๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:58
And can you see behind me, it's raining
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ๋’ค์— ๋ณด์ด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”,
30:02
outside my studio window.
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์ œ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค ์ฐฝ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:04
The rain is now coming down again.
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๋น„๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:07
We have a very wet day today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์Šตํ•œ ๋‚ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:14
In a few moments, we are talking about today's main subject,
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์ž ์‹œ ํ›„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
30:18
which is living in a fantasy world.
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.
31:09
The I think the rain
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๋น„๊ฐ€
32:23
is getting into my connexion, my internet connexion.
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๋‚ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ, ๋‚ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์— ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
32:27
I hope I'm still here.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„์ง ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:30
The rain is falling and maybe my
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๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
32:32
my hot internet wire is getting a bit hot.
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๋‚ด ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ์„ ์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:36
And also wet
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Hello๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์ –์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
32:46
due to
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32:54
Hello.
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.
32:56
Welcome back.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:57
Today we are looking at living in a fantasy world.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:59
We were talking about working for a company
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
33:03
or working in your job for many, many years.
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์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:07
Florence says
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ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ Œ์Šค๋Š”
33:10
Oh, wait there a moment, pal.
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์˜ค, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ž ๊น๋งŒ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ค์š”, ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:13
Palmira says
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Palmira๋Š”
33:17
My husband has worked for 42 years
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๋‚จํŽธ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ 42๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ผํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:22
in the same school.
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.
33:24
42 years.
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42๋…„.
33:25
That is a very long time.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:28
I think sometimes if you like your job,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
33:32
if you love your job,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
33:35
then why would you change it?
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์™œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
33:38
Why would you move somewhere else?
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์™œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
33:40
Why would you change everything?
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์™œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
33:42
I also think sometimes the longer you do something
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก
33:47
the harder it becomes to change from it or to move away from it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ ๋ฉ€์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:54
So I think if you work for a company for maybe ten or 12 years,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ 10๋…„ ๋˜๋Š” 12๋…„ ์ •๋„ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋‘๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
34:00
you might find that it becomes much more difficult
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:04
to give up that job or to change that job.
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.
34:07
So I think that can also happen as well.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋„ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:10
Congratulations, Palmira, your husband working for 42 years and Florence says yes.
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์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ํŒ”๋ฏธ๋ผ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚จํŽธ์€ 42๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ  ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ Œ์Šค๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:17
42 years is a very long time, I think.
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42๋…„์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ธด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
34:21
42 years is a long time to do anything
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42๋…„์€ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์ •์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ํ•˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ธด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:25
anything to be honest, anything in your life whatsoever.
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.
34:32
Hello to hello.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
34:36
Hello. Can I say hello to hello?
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์•ˆ๋ถ€ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
34:38
Hello to you.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
34:39
Nice to see you here.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘๋‹ค.
34:40
I don't recognise your name.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:42
Is it your first time here?
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ฒ˜์Œ์ด์„ธ์š”?
34:45
If it is, please let me know.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
34:48
So we are looking at fantasy and reality
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ๊ณผ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ 
34:52
and I thought it would be an interesting subject because today is
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์žˆ๊ณ , ์˜ค๋Š˜์ด 5์›” 4์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:57
May the fourth.
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.
34:59
You see
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35:01
a lot of people say that this is Star Wars
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35:04
Day because you can say
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35:07
May the force be with you.
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ํž˜์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ธธ.
35:12
May the fourth.
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5์›” ๋„ท์งธ.
35:13
You say it's a joke.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋†๋‹ด์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:15
A lot of people enjoy that joke for some reason.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋†๋‹ด์„ ์ฆ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:20
Some people don't of course, reality and fantasy.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก , ํ˜„์‹ค๊ณผ ํ™˜์ƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:24
We are looking at the subject of living in a reality.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค ์†์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:30
But what is reality?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
35:31
Well, first of all, we look at maybe two sides of the coin,
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์Œ, ์šฐ์„ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™์ „์˜ ์–‘๋ฉด์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:37
so we can look at living in the real world, living in reality.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์‹ค์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:42
So the things that we see around us, the things that we can see, hear, touch,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ , ๋“ฃ๊ณ , ๋งŒ์ง€๊ณ ,
35:49
smell or taste
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๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋ฅผ ๋งก๊ณ , ๋ง›๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
35:53
reality, that is reality.
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ํ˜„์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:58
We can also live in an unreal world,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๋น„ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ธ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:02
which I think is quite topical because a lot of people these days
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์š”์ฆ˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
36:06
are talking more about artificial intelligence
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์ธ๊ณต ์ง€๋Šฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
36:11
and also living in the
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์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ฐ€์ƒ ํ˜„์‹ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ ์  ๋” ๋ณดํŽธํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Œ€์ฒด ์šฐ์ฃผ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์‹œ์‚ฌ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
36:14
alternate universe, which is now seen as
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36:20
becoming more more common
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36:23
with virtual reality.
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36:26
Some people believe that in the future
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์—
36:29
there will be no reality that you actually touch
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งŒ์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ ‘์ด‰ํ•˜๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:33
or you actually have contact with
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36:39
it's a little bit scary, to be honest.
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฌด์„ญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:41
I'm not going to joke with you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋†๋‹ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:42
It is a little bit scary, actually.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฌด์„ญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:46
So living in the Unreal World
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์–ธ๋ฆฌ์–ผ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
36:49
might be also described as living in a fantasy world as well.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
36:54
The word reality relates to what is real
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์‹ค์žฌ(reality)๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ์‹ค์žฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง„์‹ค๋กœ ์ธ์‹๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
36:57
and perceived as true.
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.
37:02
So when we say that you perceive something, it is your sense
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ง€๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
37:07
your sense,
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ๊ฐ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜
37:09
the sense of seeing, hearing,
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๊ฐ๊ฐ, ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋“ฃ๊ณ 
37:12
and I suppose also understanding
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์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
37:16
so the word reality relates to what is real
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ํ˜„์‹ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ์‹ค์žฌ
37:19
and perceived as true,
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง„์‹ค๋กœ ์ธ์‹๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
37:25
a real thing.
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.
37:26
Is tangible.
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์œ ํ˜•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:28
I like that word.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
37:30
So if you describe something as tangible,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์œ ํ˜•์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋ฉด ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ
37:34
it means it can be grasped
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ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
37:37
or understood something that is tangible.
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.
37:42
A real thing is tangible.
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์ง„์งœ๋Š” ์œ ํ˜•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:44
It is, except it as real
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37:49
to live in the real world
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ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์‹ค๋กœ
37:52
is to accept what is seen as reality.
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๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ˜„์‹ค๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:56
So quite often when we talk about reality,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์ข…์ข… ํ˜„์‹ค๋กœ
37:59
we talk about the things that are accepted as being real,
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๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:05
maybe information, maybe the things that you've seen
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ •๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„
38:10
can be also described as reality.
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ํ˜„์‹ค๋กœ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:15
The sense of reality allows us
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ํ˜„์‹ค๊ฐ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
38:17
to have continue pretty and stability.
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์˜ˆ์˜๊ณ  ์•ˆ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ„์†ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:22
So again, having a sense of reality
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ํ˜„์‹ค๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
38:27
is seen as also having a sense of stability
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๋˜ํ•œ
38:31
you will stable and also continuity.
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์•ˆ์ •๋˜๊ณ  ์ง€์†๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์•ˆ์ •๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:35
So every day we live our life
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งค์ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ
38:39
we experience the world around us and then we go to bed and we have a sleep.
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์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ž ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ๋“ค๊ณ  ์ž ์„ ์žก๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:44
But the next day we wake up and all of that reality
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊นจ์–ด๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ˜„์‹ค์€
38:48
is still there, but also it is still there
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ
38:53
appear in our minds.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋งˆ์Œ ์†์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:56
So all grasp of reality
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ˜„์‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ํŒŒ์•…์€
38:59
allows us to have continuity
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ์†์„ฑ
39:03
and also stability as well.
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๊ณผ ์•ˆ์ •์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:08
The next part,
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๋‹ค์Œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ๋Š”
39:10
we gain our sense of reality from many different sources,
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ถœ์ฒ˜,
39:16
many different places.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ ํ˜„์‹ค๊ฐ์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:19
We gain our sense of reality from many different sources,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ถœ์ฒ˜์—์„œ ํ˜„์‹ค๊ฐ์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
39:26
our own senses
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์€
39:28
help us to construct the feeling of what is real.
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์‹ค์ œ ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:31
For example,
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
39:33
your five senses, the senses that we have
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์˜ค๊ฐ,
39:38
your sense of sight,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ,
39:40
your sense of hearing, your sense of touch.
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์ฒญ๊ฐ, ์ด‰๊ฐ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:44
Quite often they help you to construct
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๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
39:49
the feeling of what is real,
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๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ง„์งœ์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ง„์งœ์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
39:53
acquiring knowledge
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์ง€์‹์„ ์Šต๋“ํ•˜๋Š”
39:55
as to what is real also helps to build a sense of reality.
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๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ˜„์‹ค๊ฐ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:00
So the things that you see, the things that you learn,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
40:05
knowledge can also help to give you a base
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์ง€์‹์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์‹ค์ œ ํ˜„์‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
40:10
of what is real reality.
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.
40:15
Acquiring knowledge learning.
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์ง€์‹ ์Šต๋“ ํ•™์Šต.
40:17
And I suppose that is the reason why we see education is such an important thing.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ต์œก์ด ๊ทธํ† ๋ก ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:23
It is. That's why
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
40:26
education is important because it is part of
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๊ต์œก์€
40:31
building your understanding of the world around you.
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์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ดํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:35
So it's not just seeing and hearing
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
40:37
it, it's also knowing as well,
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40:42
you might say, that one person's reality differs from another person's
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ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜
40:46
view of what is real or true.
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์‹ค์ œ ๋˜๋Š” ์ง„์‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์ ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:50
Yes, I think that is perfectly fair.
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜๊ฒฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ
40:54
I think it's very fair to say that one person's reality might be slightly different
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ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด
41:01
from another person's reality,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค๊ณผ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํƒ€๋‹นํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:04
especially when we're talking about opinions.
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.
41:08
One person's opinion would be different from another.
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ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:13
But why is this so?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด๊นŒ์š”?
41:14
Why are the opinions of people different?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ฃผ๋ณ€
41:21
It is because of their perception of the world around them.
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์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ธ์‹ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
41:25
So quite often you will find that a person's knowledge, experience
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์˜ ์ง€์‹, ๊ฒฝํ—˜
41:30
and how they see the world will also shape
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๋ฐ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜
41:34
their opinions as well.
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์˜๊ฒฌ๋„ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข…์ข… ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:37
And that is the reason why
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
41:41
people often disagree.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ข…์ข… ๋™์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:44
We all see things from a different angle.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ๋„์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:48
I think it's very, very fair to say that
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์ €๋Š”
41:51
we all see things from different angles
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ๋„์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ณธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณต์ •ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:55
different perspectives.
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.
41:59
The word reality and fantasy
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ํ˜„์‹ค๊ณผ ํ™˜์ƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š”
42:01
relate to what is real and what is created.
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์‹ค์ œ์™€ ์ƒ์„ฑ๋œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:06
So reality is real
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ํ˜„์‹ค
42:10
and fantasy is created
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์ด๊ณ  ํ™˜์ƒ์€
42:15
the word fact relates to truth
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ง„์‹ค๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋˜๊ณ 
42:19
while the word the word fiction relates to untruth.
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ํ—ˆ๊ตฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋น„์ง„๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋˜์–ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:24
So we talk about facts as being reality or real or true.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ˜„์‹ค ๋˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:31
And then we look at the word fiction,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ—ˆ๊ตฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:33
which relates to that that is seen as untrue,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฑฐ์ง“,
42:39
false or fake.
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ํ—ˆ์œ„ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์งœ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:42
So there are different ways of looking
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
42:44
at both of those things.
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.
42:48
You might say that
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42:51
the reality is the actual
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ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ
42:54
and fantasy is the notional
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์ด๊ณ  ํ™˜์ƒ์€ ๊ด€๋…
42:58
so the actual thing is the reality.
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์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ ์‹ค์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:02
And then we look at notional.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช…๋ชฉ์ƒ์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:04
If something notional is something that is thought
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๊ฐœ๋…์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด
43:08
about maybe a theory, a way of looking at something,
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์ด๋ก , ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹,
43:14
maybe a person's perspective of something
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
43:17
so it is not necessarily real.
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๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์‹ค์ œ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:20
It is not necessarily true.
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๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:24
A person might find living in a fantasy world
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
43:28
more appealing and a source of comfort.
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๋” ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์œ„์•ˆ์˜ ์›์ฒœ์ž„์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:33
And this is what can happen.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:35
I think
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๋‚˜๋Š”
43:37
an individual, a person
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๊ฐœ์ธ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
43:39
can begin to live in a fantasy world.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:43
Maybe the reality may be their real life
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ๊ฒฌ๋””๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ํ˜„์‹ค์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
43:47
is too hard to bear.
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.
43:49
Maybe there are parts of their real life that they don't like.
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์‹ค์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:54
So they will invent they will create
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
43:58
a fantasy life or a fantasy world,
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ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์‚ถ์ด๋‚˜ ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
44:03
and that will give them comfort
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
44:08
some people will exaggerate or create their own reality
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์œ„๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๊ณผ์žฅํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
44:13
by living a fantasy life.
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.
44:17
So that is when things become a little bit
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๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
44:20
more serious, so to say.
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.
44:25
So instead of daydream im'ing, instead of thinking of things that you would like to do,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ณต์ƒ์— ์ž ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ , ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ผ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ 
44:31
those fantasies start to become part of your real life.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ™˜์ƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ ์‚ถ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:35
You introduce your fantasies, your daydreams.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ™˜์ƒ๊ณผ ๋ฐฑ์ผ๋ชฝ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:41
They are no longer dreams.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ฟˆ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:43
They become reality.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:45
They become a type of reality.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:50
That is to say, the reality that you see
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์ฆ‰, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค์€
44:55
there are many forms
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44:56
of living in a fantasy world, such as creating a fake past.
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๊ฐ€์งœ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํ˜•ํƒœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:02
This happens a lot now.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:04
I'm going to say something now, but
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ
45:11
I'm not going to make any personal judgements.
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ํŒ๋‹จ์€ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:15
But I have known people in my life
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ
45:19
who have turned out
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45:22
to be living a completely fake life.
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€์งœ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐํ˜€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:25
Maybe they tell me things they've done in their past
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ํ•œ ์ผ์„ ๋งํ•ด ์ค„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ฝ”
45:29
maybe they create situations that never happened,
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์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜๋„
45:35
but they do it because it makes them feel more comfortable.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋А๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:39
Or maybe because they need extra attention.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:45
So I have known people in the past
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
45:47
and I still know some now
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์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋ช‡๋ช‡์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:51
I have to be careful what I'm saying.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฑด
45:52
By the way, I do know people.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:55
There are people who I've met in my life
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๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
46:00
who eventually have revealed
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46:04
that the things they've told me about themselves were actually not true.
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์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹˜์„ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:10
They have made things up
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
46:13
quite often to make themselves feel better
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46:17
by pretending to have a serious illness
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์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ์งˆ๋ณ‘
46:19
or a tragedy in one light one's life.
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์ด๋‚˜ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๋น„๊ทน์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ€์žฅํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋‚˜์•„์ง€๋„๋ก ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ๊พธ๋ฉฐ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:24
So a person might pretend to be
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
46:28
ill seriously ill.
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์•„ํ”ˆ ์ฒ™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:30
They might fake an illness to get attention.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋Œ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ณ‘์„ ์†์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:36
Or maybe they will pretend that something bad has happened in their life.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์œ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ฒ™ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:41
I know a person again.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์•ˆ๋‹ค.
46:43
I have to be careful what I'm saying, but I do know someone
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
46:47
who once pretended that their father had died.
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ํ•œ๋•Œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์žฅํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:51
They told me that their father had died.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์…จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:55
And of course, for many days afterwards
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ ํ›„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‚  ๋™์•ˆ
46:57
we were concerned and worried
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—ผ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
47:02
about that situation.
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.
47:05
But unfortunately, the problem
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„
47:07
with that kind of lie, that type of lie is quite often
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ
47:12
it will eventually be revealed to be untrue.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:18
So sometimes living that fantasy
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ํ™˜์ƒ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
47:20
and creating things that didn't really happen sometimes.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ผ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
47:25
Well, I think it's a risk that you take,
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:29
especially if you are saying that someone died when they didn't
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
47:35
maybe a person tells you that their father has died.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:38
And then a few weeks later you find out that their father is still alive
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ํ›„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„์ง ์‚ด์•„
47:43
and not dead.
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์žˆ๊ณ  ์ฃฝ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:46
It can happen
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜
47:50
and I suppose we live in a modern age,
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์žˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„๋Œ€ ์‹œ๋Œ€,
47:52
the age of computers, the age of the Internet,
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์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ์‹œ๋Œ€, ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ์‹œ๋Œ€์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๋ฉด
48:01
a person who craves attention or sympathy
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด๋‚˜ ๋™์ •์„ ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
48:04
might create drama relating to their own life.
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋“œ๋ผ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:09
So a person might actually invent things
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
48:14
for attention or sympathy
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด๋‚˜ ๋™์ •์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
48:18
maybe they pretend that they are divorced,
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, ์ดํ˜ผํ•œ ์ฒ™
48:23
or maybe they pretend that they've
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ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
48:25
recently lost a close relative.
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์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์นœ์ฒ™์„ ์žƒ์€ ์ฒ™ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:28
As I said a few moments ago, a person who craves attention
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ „์— ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ
48:33
or sympathy might create drama
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์ด๋‚˜ ๋™์ •์„ ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
48:38
relating to their own lives.
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋“œ๋ผ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:41
As I mentioned a few moments ago,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ „์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด,
48:44
the Internet, uh, yes, the Internet.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท, ์–ด, ๋„ค, ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:50
You can go onto the internet and you can,
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ์ ‘์†ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:52
you can invent yourself from the very beginning.
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์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:55
You can create your own childhood,
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
48:58
you can create your own life,
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
49:02
you can create your own career.
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ
49:05
You can virtually be whoever you want
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์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
49:10
literally, virtually.
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.
49:14
And of course, over the past few years,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ
49:18
there have been people who have been caught in their own fantasy
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49:23
by pretending to be someone or something that they are not.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์ธ ์ฒ™ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ™˜์ƒ์— ์‚ฌ๋กœ์žกํžŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
49:29
So the Internet has allowed us to exaggerate our lives
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ๊ณผ์žฅ
49:34
and to only show what we want other people to see.
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:37
We only reveal what we want other people to see.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:43
And sometimes we make those things up.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:45
Maybe a person makes that thing up.
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์•„๋งˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:48
They pretend that maybe a person says that they are a doctor
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ž์‹ ์ด ์˜์‚ฌ
49:53
or an aircraft pilot
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๋‚˜ ํ•ญ๊ณต๊ธฐ ์กฐ์ข…์‚ฌ
49:57
or a magician
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๋˜๋Š” ๋งˆ์ˆ ์‚ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ€์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
49:59
although I don't know why.
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.
50:01
Why would anyone pretend to be a magician?
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์™œ ๋งˆ์ˆ ์‚ฌ ํ–‰์„ธ๋ฅผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
50:04
I don't know why you would do that.
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์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์‹ค์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:07
So that is one of the things about the Internet you can
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์˜ ํŠน์ง• ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:09
virtually create your own
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50:14
reality to other people.
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.
50:17
So people will view you differently.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:21
The occurrence of fake personalities on social media
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์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์งœ ์ธ๋ฌผ์˜ ๋ฐœ์ƒ์€
50:25
has become widespread over recent years.
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์ตœ๊ทผ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋„๋ฆฌ ํผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:29
So as I mentioned a few moments ago, there have been very high profile personalities
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„ ์ „์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด,
50:38
influencers on the Internet, either on Instagram
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์ธ์Šคํƒ€๊ทธ๋žจ์ด๋‚˜ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ๋“ฑ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์˜ ์ธํ”Œ๋ฃจ์–ธ์„œ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:45
or here on YouTube.
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.
50:47
There have been many people who have been exposed.
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๋…ธ์ถœ๋œ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:51
They've been revealed
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
50:54
to not be the person they pretend they are
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ถ€์ž์ธ ์ฒ™ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐํ˜€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:57
quite often people will pretend to be wealthy.
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.
51:01
This happens a lot on Instagram.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ Instagram์—์„œ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:06
There are many people on there who who flex
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ณผ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
51:09
and they show their wealth,
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,
51:14
but they've also been revealed not to be wealthy.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:18
And not to have those things.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ ค๊ณ .
51:20
And that is I suppose that's a very good example of creating your own reality,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:25
creating a reality that is not real.
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ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:29
And I suppose it's easy to do these days.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์š”์ฆ˜์€ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
51:32
It's very easy to do it
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์•„์ฃผ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
51:35
if you want.
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.
51:37
Not everyone does it
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
51:41
what about you, Mr.
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, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
51:42
Duncan?
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?
51:43
Is your life real or did you just make it all up?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์€ ์ง„์งœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ง€์–ด๋‚ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
51:48
Unfortunately,
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์œ ๊ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€
51:52
I'm sorry to say
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๋“œ๋ฆฐ
51:58
it's all true
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52:01
everything that's happened in my life
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์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์ด
52:03
that I've told you about is true.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์œ ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:07
And the reason why I know that
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•„๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
52:09
is because I share everything
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52:12
you know, all about my life, the ups
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์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ, ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ, ๊ธฐ๋ณต
52:16
and the downs
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,
52:20
uh, christina makes a very interesting point.
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์–ด, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์„ ์ง€์ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:25
I do not believe in finding love on the Internet.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:30
That is a very good point.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:33
I like that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
52:34
Yes, I didn't even mention that.
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์˜ˆ, ์–ธ๊ธ‰์กฐ์ฐจ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:37
So maybe if a person is looking for love, maybe they are trying to find a partner
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด
52:41
or a relationship with someone, they might
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋‚˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด
52:44
pretend to be something they are not.
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์•„๋‹Œ ์ฒ™ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:48
So that is a very good point. I like that one.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
52:53
Yes. It can be
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์˜ˆ.
52:56
a difficult situation if you are trying to find a relationship yep.
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๋„ค, ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:59
And you use the Internet,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉด
53:02
you have to be careful because you might end up being
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋ฉ”๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:06
I think they call it catfished is that right?
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53:11
A catfish is a person
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๋ฉ”๊ธฐ๋Š”
53:14
who goes on the Internet and they pretend to be one person
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ ์ฒ™ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
53:17
or they create a fake life, but in reality they are a completely different person.
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๊ฐ€์งœ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‹ค. ๋ฉ”๊ธฐ
53:23
I think it is called catfishing.
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๋‚š์‹œ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:27
Am I right?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ ์‹คํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃฌ
53:29
I believe there was a TV programme
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TV ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ
53:32
devoted to that actual subject
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53:37
it has become much harder to verify
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53:41
what a person says about their past
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์กŒ๊ธฐ
53:46
so if a person goes on the internet
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ
53:49
and creates a fake life,
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๊ฐ€์งœ ์‚ถ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๋ฉด
53:52
you might find it difficult to prove that that life
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๊ทธ ์‚ถ์ด ์ฆ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:56
is fake.
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๊ฐ€์งœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:58
However, there are people now who dedicate
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€
54:01
a lot of their time to trying to find out
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54:04
whether that person is a real person or not,
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์‹ค์กด ์ธ๋ฌผ์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
54:09
or perhaps they are just living
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๊ทธ์ €
54:11
in a fantasy Wow.
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ํ™˜์ƒ ์†์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:17
The rain is really coming down now.
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์ด์ œ ์ •๋ง ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:19
Can you see the rain is now falling behind me?
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๋น„๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚ด ๋’ค์— ๋–จ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
54:22
We have a very rainy day here. In England.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๋‚ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ.
54:25
We might describe this type of person as a fantasist
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ํ™˜์ƒ์ฃผ์˜์ž
54:29
or a Walter Mitty character.
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๋˜๋Š” Walter Mitty ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ
54:32
Walter Mitty
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Walter Mitty
54:34
Walter Mitty, by the way, is not a real person.
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Walter Mitty๋Š” ์‹ค์กด ์ธ๋ฌผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:37
He is the hero of the story, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty,
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๊ทธ๋Š” 1939๋…„์— James Thurber๊ฐ€ ์“ด The Secret Life of Walter Mitty๋ผ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์˜ ์ฃผ์ธ๊ณต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:42
which was written by James Thurber way back in 1939.
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54:48
The character of Walter Mitty was someone who indulged
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Walter Mitty์˜ ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋Š”
54:52
in extravagant daydreams of his own triumphs.
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์Šน๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์น˜์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ฐฑ์ผ๋ชฝ์— ๋น ์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:58
So he was a fantasist,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณต์ƒ๊ฐ€์˜€์ง€
55:01
he wasn't a real character.
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์‹ค์ œ ์ธ๋ฌผ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:03
He's a fictional character.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ํ—ˆ๊ตฌ์˜ ์ธ๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:05
But in the story of Walter Mitty,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ Walter Mitty์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์—์„œ
55:08
he often daydreams and believes
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๋ฐฑ์ผ๋ชฝ์„ ๊พธ๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ์ด
55:11
that he can do more with his life than he really does.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:15
Or really has
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๋˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง
55:19
something very serious. Now,
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์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ
55:22
the disorder,
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55:24
Munchausen syndrome, is the act of seeking attention
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๋ฎŒํ•˜์šฐ์   ์ฆํ›„๊ตฐ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์žฅ์• ๋Š”
55:28
through personal illness or suffering.
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด๋‚˜ ๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰์œ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:33
However,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
55:35
that particular illness or suffering is not real.
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๊ทธ ํŠน์ • ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด๋‚˜ ๊ณ ํ†ต์€ ์‹ค์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:39
Or maybe you do something to make yourself ill.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ž์‹ ์„ ์•„ํ”„๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:42
And there are people who do this.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:45
So because they are so desperate to get sympathy and attention,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋™์ •๊ณผ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ ์ž ์ ˆ๋ฐ•ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
55:49
they will actually make themselves ill
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ณ‘๋“ค๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค
55:53
in reality.
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.
55:55
So maybe they take
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
55:57
a small amount of poison
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55:59
every day to make themselves ill.
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งค์ผ ์†Œ๋Ÿ‰์˜ ๋…์•ฝ์„ ๋ณต์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:03
So to other people around them, their illness is real
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
56:08
because the symptoms are also real.
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์ฆ์ƒ๋„ ์‹ค์ œ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด ์‹ค์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:13
So we often
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ์ด
56:14
describe this particular illness as a mental illness
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ํŠน์ • ์งˆ๋ณ‘์„ ๋ฎŒํ•˜์šฐ์   ์ฆํ›„๊ตฐ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ •์‹  ์งˆํ™˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ
56:18
called Munchausen Syndrome,
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,
56:22
and it can happen.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:24
There is also Munchausen by proxy,
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์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ
56:27
which involves using the illness or suffering
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56:30
of another person for attention.
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๋Œ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด๋‚˜ ๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€๋ฆฌ ๋ฎŒํ•˜์šฐ์  ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:33
Quite often a child.
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๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ์•„์ด.
56:35
So may be a mother will make her child ill
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์•„ํ”„๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์—ฌ
56:40
on purpose, so she will get attention.
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋Œ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:45
The mother is looking for attention, so she will purposely
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์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ
56:49
make her child ill or unwell
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56:53
to get attention.
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋Œ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์•„ํ”„๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์•„ํ”„๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:55
And this is something that also happens
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ
57:00
but what about you?
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์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
57:02
Have you ever met anyone in your life?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
57:06
Do you know someone who lives in a fantasy world?
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ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
57:10
Maybe we all do.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:12
There are some people who believe that we all live
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€
57:15
in a fantasy world and that nothing is real
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ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
57:20
a little bit like The Matrix.
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๋งคํŠธ๋ฆญ์Šค์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:22
You see
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๋ณด์‹œ
57:24
so I suppose
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๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
57:25
for some people, reality can be anything they want it to be.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
57:30
But what about you?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
57:31
Have you ever met someone?
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
57:33
Have you ever had a friend or work colleague, someone you've known in your life?
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ํ‰์ƒ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์ง€๋‚ด๋˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์ง์žฅ ๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
57:38
And they've been creating their life.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:42
They've been pretending to do a certain job,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํŠน์ • ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฒ™ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
57:46
or maybe they've been pretending
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57:50
to have an illness,
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์งˆ๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฐ ์ฒ™ํ–ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:52
a part of their life that can be
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์‚ถ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€
57:57
seen as fake
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๊ฐ€์งœ Vitoria๋กœ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ 
58:01
Vitoria, says Mr Duncan.
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Duncan์€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:05
I suppose deep down many of us are a little bit like Walter Mitty.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด Walter Mitty์™€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:10
Well, I suppose so, but I think the danger is
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์œ„ํ—˜์€
58:15
when it starts to become part of your real life.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‹ค์ƒํ™œ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:19
So I don't think there is anything wrong with fantasy.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ์— ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:22
Fantasy
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ํŒํƒ€์ง€๋Š”
58:24
is, is quite a healthy thing.
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๊ฝค ๊ฑด์ „ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์„
58:27
I think it's great to enjoy something
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์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
58:30
that is not necessarily real.
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.
58:33
However, you have to make sure also
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ
58:36
that you keep your feet on the ground
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋•…์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋”›๊ณ  ํ™˜์ƒ์ด ์ง„์งœ๋ผ๊ณ 
58:39
and that you you don't start to believe
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๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
58:43
that the fantasy is real and that is the problem.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:48
I think
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58:50
Cristina says, I live in the real world.
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Cristina๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ €๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:56
Sometimes it's the best place to be.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์žฅ์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:59
It's not pretty,
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์˜ˆ์˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ 
59:01
it's not pleasant.
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์œ ์พŒํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:04
Living in reality
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ํ˜„์‹ค์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
59:07
sometimes can be a little difficult and not very
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๋•Œ๋กœ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํž˜๋“ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€
59:12
not very pleasant.
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์ฆ๊ฒ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:17
Not everybody on the Internet is fake.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ƒ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฐ€์งœ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:19
Well, that is true. Yes, you are right.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋งž์•„.
59:22
Not everyone who uses the Internet, not everyone looking for love,
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ๋น„์‹ผ ์ง‘
59:27
not everyone who takes photographs
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์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“ 
59:31
of their expensive house not everyone is fake.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฐ€์งœ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:36
However, there are situations where a person might do it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:41
They might be pretending to be wealthy or married.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ€์œ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•œ ์ฒ™ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:46
They might be pretending to have a successful career.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ฒ™ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:50
It can happen. It really can
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์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํ•  ์ˆ˜
59:53
and the problem with that is
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”
59:56
quite often that person will then destroy another person's life.
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๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ํŒŒ๊ดดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์นœํ•ด์กŒ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
60:01
Another person will also be damaged
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ํ”ผํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ž…๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค
60:05
because they became close.
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.
60:08
Maybe they developed a relationship with the person
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
60:11
who was living in a fantasy world.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œ์ผฐ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:14
So you do have to be careful.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:16
And I think when you are doing things on the Internet,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ,
60:20
I think when you are doing things on the Internet,
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ
60:22
it is very easy to be
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60:27
tricked or misled.
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์†๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋„ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:31
I think so.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
60:34
I hope you've enjoyed today's live stream.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ์ด ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šฐ์…จ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:36
It has been a little bit different.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:39
We've had a lot of rain here today.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ด๊ณณ์— ๋งŽ์€ ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:43
I think it's stopped again.
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๋˜ ๋ฉˆ์ถ˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
60:45
Has the rain stopped?
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๋น„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์ณค๋‚˜์š”?
60:46
No, it hasn't.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค.
60:47
It's still raining outside. Look
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๋ฐ–์—๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:52
it's not a very nice day today, I will be honest with you,
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข‹์€ ๋‚ ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ,
60:54
but I hope I have still managed to bring a little bit of sunshine into your day.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ–‡๋น›์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค ๋“œ๋ ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:00
I will be back with you on Sunday, by the way.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์š”์ผ์— ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋Œ์•„์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:03
Don't forget Sunday.
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์ผ์š”์ผ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
61:05
I will be here with you from 2 p.m.
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์˜คํ›„ 2์‹œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:08
UK time and Mr Steve will be here as well.
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์˜๊ตญ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๊ณผ Mr Steve๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:12
Yes, there he is. Can you see him?
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๋„ค, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
61:16
Mr Steve will be with us as well on Sunday.
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Mr Steve๋Š” ์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:19
We will be back don't forget also on Sunday
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์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
61:24
it is episode 200 of English addict
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์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž
61:30
200 episodes
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200ํ™”์˜ 200ํ™”์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
61:33
so on
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61:36
on Sunday we will have our 200th English addict
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์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋Š” 200๋ฒˆ์งธ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๋ฅผ
61:43
with myself and also Mr Steve as well.
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์ €์™€ Mr Steve์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:47
You can watch this lesson again.
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์ด ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:49
There will be captions as well and I hope to see you again
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์บก์…˜๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๊ณง ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
61:54
soon, which will be on Sunday the usual time.
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. ํ‰์†Œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ์ผ์š”์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:00
2 p.m.
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์˜คํ›„ 2์‹œ
62:01
UK time is when I'm here with you and I will see you then.
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์˜๊ตญ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜
62:07
Thank you very much for your company.
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ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:09
I hope the past hour has been useful
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด
62:15
sometimes fantasising about something.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ™˜์ƒ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:19
Pretending can be very therapeutic.
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์ฒ™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์น˜๋ฃŒ์ ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:23
It can however, it is also important
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
62:27
to make sure that you stay in the real world as well.
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์‹ค์ œ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:32
Keep it real.
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ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
62:33
Everyone
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€
62:36
keep your feet on the ground
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๋ฐœ์„ ๋•…์— ๋Œ€๊ณ 
62:39
and maybe sometimes you can have your head
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ
62:42
in the clouds as well.
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๊ตฌ๋ฆ„ ์†์— ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:44
Catch you on Sunday. This is Mr.
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์ผ์š”์ผ์— ๋งŒ๋‚˜์š”.
62:46
Duncan in England saying Thank you for watching thank you very much for joining me.
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์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:51
See you soon.
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๊ณง ๋ด์š”.
62:52
And of course, until the next time we meet here,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹ค์Œ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ,
62:55
right here on YouTube.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ YouTube์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€์š”.
62:58
You know, what's coming next.
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๋‹ค์Œ์— ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์˜ฌ์ง€ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ.
62:59
Yes, you do.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:03
ta ta for now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋”ฐ๋”ฐ.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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