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Remember your 'ROOTS' (memories) - English Addict / Episode 303 - ๐Ÿ”ดLIVE stream - Sunday 4th Aug 2024

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English Addict with Mr Duncan


ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

03:21
Are we on?
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้€ฒใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
03:22
I think we're on. Oh.
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้€ฒใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŠใŠใ€‚
03:23
That's nice. Here we go. Then we're back together again.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚ ใ•ใ่กŒใ“ใ†ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใพใŸไธ€็ท’ใซๆˆปใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
03:26
I hope you are okay. It's all right.
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ๅคงไธˆๅคซใ ใจใ„ใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€‚ ๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ€‚
03:29
We are here together. And.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ“ใซไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€‚
03:34
This is English addict coming to you live
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่‹ฑ่ชžไธญๆฏ’่€…ใŒใ€่‹ฑ่ชž็™บ็ฅฅใฎๅœฐใ‹ใ‚‰็›ดๆŽฅใ€็”Ÿใงใ‚ใชใŸใฎใจใ“ใ‚ใธใ‚„ใฃใฆๆฅใพใ™
03:37
and direct from what is left of the birthplace of the English language.
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03:42
Which is, of course, you know where it is. I know where it is.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:46
We all know where it is.
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็งใŸใกใฏ็š†ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:47
It's England.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใงใ™ใ€‚
03:55
And. Yeah, I know I pressed the wrong button.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€้–“้•ใฃใŸใƒœใ‚ฟใƒณใ‚’ๆŠผใ—ใŸใฎใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ
04:01
I know it's going to be one of those days today, you say, because I'm not feeling very well.
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ใใ‚“ใชๆ—ฅใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ ใ€ใ ใฃใฆ็งใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใจๅ›ใฏ่จ€ใ†ใ€‚
04:06
I'm going to get straight down to it.
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ๆ—ฉ้€Ÿๆœฌ้กŒใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ“
04:10
I've not been very well over the past three days.
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3ๆ—ฅ้–“ใ‚ใพใ‚Š่ชฟๅญใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:13
Friday morning I woke up
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้‡‘ๆ›œๆ—ฅใฎๆœใ€็•ฐๅธธใชๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใง็›ฎใŒ่ฆšใ‚ใฆ
04:16
with the most peculiar sensation,
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04:21
and I looked in the mirror in the bathroom,
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ใ€ๆด—้ขๆ‰€ใฎ้กใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ‚‰ใ€
04:24
and I was rather horrified to find that half of my face
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้ก”ใฎๅŠๅˆ†ใŒ
04:29
had swollen up like a grapefruit, and I was a little bit worried about it.
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ใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒผใƒ—ใƒ•ใƒซใƒผใƒ„ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่…ซใ‚ŒไธŠใŒใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๆ€–ใใชใฃใฆ ใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅฟƒ้…ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:36
And I don't know what it was.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใ ใฃใŸใฎใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:37
So I went to the doctors and, they gave me something for it.
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ใใ“ใงๅŒป่€…ใซ่กŒใฃใŸใจใ“ใ‚ใ€ๆฒป็™‚่–ฌใ‚’ใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:40
And now I'm feeling well. I'm not.
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠใฏๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:43
I'm not sure how I'm feeling, to be honest.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒใฉใ†ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:45
So we'll see what happens today.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
04:47
In fact, things are so desperate.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€็Šถๆณใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็ตถๆœ›็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚
04:50
I've had to bring some reinforcements.
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ๆด่ปใ‚’้€ฃใ‚Œใฆใ“ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:54
And when I say reinforcements, I'm.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒๆด่ปใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
04:57
I'm using the term very loosely.
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็งใฏใ“ใฎ็”จ่ชžใ‚’้žๅธธใซๅคง้›‘ๆŠŠใซไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:01
By the way, my name is Mr.
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ใกใชใฟใซใ€็งใฎๅๅ‰ใฏใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใงใ™
05:03
Duncan.
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05:04
I live in England, and I talk about English.
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็งใฏใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:07
You might say that I'm an English addict. And.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ็งใ‚’่‹ฑ่ชžไธญๆฏ’ใ ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€‚
05:10
And for most of the time I am here.
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ใใ—ใฆใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ€็งใฏใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:13
He is then joining me today, giving me as much support as he can, which, to be honest with you,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใฏไปŠๆ—ฅ็งใซๅŠ ใ‚ใฃใฆใ€็งใซใงใใ‚‹้™ใ‚Šใฎใ‚ตใƒใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
05:22
isn't that much.
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ใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
05:24
Here he is.
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ใ“ใ“ใซๅฝผใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:26
It's.
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ใใฎใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–
05:27
It's Mr.
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05:27
Steve.
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ใ•ใ‚“ใงใ™
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05:31
Hello, everyone.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚
05:33
Hello, Mr. Duncan.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
05:35
yes.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚
05:36
It's been an interesting couple of days for Mr. Duncan.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐใซใจใฃใฆใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ๆ•ฐๆ—ฅ้–“ใ ใฃใŸใ€‚
05:40
you've got, like, a gum infection, it turns out.
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ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใ‚‰ๆญฏๅ‘จ็—…ใซใ‹ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใ ใ€‚
05:44
Yeah, I was I wasn't going to name it. And, Yes.
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ใใ†ใ ใ€ๅๅ‰ใ‚’ไป˜ใ‘ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚“ใ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใฏใ„ใ€‚
05:47
I just don't feel well.
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ใŸใ ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒๆ‚ชใ„ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
05:49
And I've got this strange infection going on in my gum, and it's making me feel really weird.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฎๆญฏ่ŒŽใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชๆ„ŸๆŸ“็—‡ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:56
And not just that, but also the the tablets that the doctor gave me
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ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใฏใชใใ€ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€ ๅŒป่€…ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใฃใŸ้Œ ๅ‰คใฎใ›ใ„ใง
06:02
are making me feel even more weird, if I was honest with you.
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ใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:08
Well, people in this country complain about the NHS and they can't see a doctor, and it's not true at all.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใ“ใฎๅ›ฝใฎไบบใ€…ใฏNHSใซใคใ„ใฆ ๅŒป่€…ใซ่จบใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใชใ„ใจไธๆบ€ใ‚’่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅ…จใ็œŸๅฎŸใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
06:15
At least it isn't where we live.
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ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚็งใŸใกใŒไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
06:17
Well, because we found at the doctor at 830, you had an appointment to see,
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€8ๆ™‚30ๅˆ†ใซๅŒป่€…ใซ่กŒใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ10ๆ™‚ใซๅŒป่€…ใซ่กŒใไบˆ็ด„ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ€
06:22
the doctor at ten, and by 11:00, we'd got the antibiotics, and, you had started the course.
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11ๆ™‚ใพใงใซๆŠ—็”Ÿ็‰ฉ่ณชใ‚’ใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใ€ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ณใƒผใ‚นใ‚’้–‹ๅง‹ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:30
I think that's amazing. so,
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ใ”ใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ€
06:35
thumbs up to the NHS.
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NHS ใซๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณ
06:37
It's worked perfectly well for Mr.
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ๆฐใซใจใฃใฆใฏๅฎŒ็’งใซใ†ใพใใ„ใฃใŸใ€‚
06:38
Duncan because, it looks like, horrible infection was starting.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ ๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ๆ„ŸๆŸ“ใŒๅง‹ใพใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใ€‚
06:43
And if we left it a few days, I think it could have developed into something very serious.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๆ•ฐๆ—ฅๆ”พ็ฝฎใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ ้žๅธธใซๆทฑๅˆปใชไบ‹ๆ…‹ใซ็™บๅฑ•ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:47
Yeah. Could be dead. No, it would have done so.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆญปใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚ ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใใ†ใชใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
06:51
This is what I was gonna say, Steve.
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ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒ่จ€ใŠใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
06:52
Okay, we get it.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:53
Steve and I just, I've got a swollen face.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใจ็งใฏ้ก”ใŒ่…ซใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:57
I'm just tending a table about.
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็งใฏใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉใƒ†ใƒผใƒ–ใƒซใฎๆ‰‹ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
06:58
You know, I just want to get out of the way. That's all right. Okay.
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็งใฏใŸใ ้‚ช้ญ”ใซใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใŸใ„ใ ใ‘ใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
07:01
I don't draw attention to it.
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใซๆณจ็›ฎใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:03
I'll just say, if I seem strange today and distant.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎ็งใŒๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใงใ‚ˆใใ‚ˆใใ—ใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใˆใŸใ‚‰ใ€่จ€ใฃใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
07:06
That's the reason why. And that's. That's it.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใใฎ็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใงใŠใ—ใพใ„ใ€‚
07:09
No political stuff. Please.
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ๆ”ฟๆฒป็š„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:11
We've got enough of that rubbish going on at the moment.
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็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใ€ใใ‚“ใชใใ ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใฏใ‚‚ใ†ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ ใ€‚
07:13
By the way, you may have heard we do have a lot of things going on here in the UK.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ ใ“ใ“่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:17
I can, I can tell you now from, from my own experience,
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็ง่‡ช่บซใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‹ใ‚‰่จ€ใˆใพใ™ใŒใ€
07:23
the country is not
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ใ“ใฎๅ›ฝใฏ
07:27
not burning for those wondering
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็–‘ๅ•ใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใซใจใฃใฆใฏ็‡ƒใˆใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ๅ•้กŒใŒ่ตทใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ
07:31
so so it's only very small places, very small areas where there is trouble, but most of it
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้žๅธธใซๅฐใ•ใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€้žๅธธใซ็‹ญใ„ๅœฐๅŸŸใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใŒ ใ€
07:37
95%, if not 98% of the country is having a lovely day and we're all just having a very nice time.
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98๏ผ…ใจใฏ่จ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใพใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใฎใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎ95๏ผ…ใŒใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅ›ฝใฎ % ใŒ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ไธ€ๆ—ฅใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Š ใ€็งใŸใกๅ…จๅ“กใŒใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:45
So don't don't watch too much of the news about the UK because you know what it's like.
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ่‹ฑๅ›ฝใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‹ใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใจใ„ใฃใฆใ€่‹ฑๅ›ฝใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ใ‚ใพใ‚Š่ฆ‹ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
07:50
The media like to exaggerate everything to make it seem more dramatic.
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ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใฏใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒžใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใซ่ฆ‹ใ›ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ€ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่ช‡ๅผตใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ ใ€‚
07:55
So please don't worry. We are okay.
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ๅฟƒ้…ใ—ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ€‚
07:58
We haven't been attacked.
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็งใŸใกใฏๆ”ปๆ’ƒใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:00
The house is not on fire so nothing like that.
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ๅฎถใฏ็‡ƒใˆใฆใ„ใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:03
Mr.. Mr..
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ใƒŸใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใ€ใƒŸใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใ€
08:04
Steve's car is still the right way up
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฎ่ปŠใฏใพใ ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๅ‘ใซ้€ฒใ‚“ใงใŠใ‚Š
08:08
and it is not in flames.
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ใ€็‚ŽไธŠใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:10
So. So for those worried about what's happening here in the UK, don't worry.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ“ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใงไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’ๅฟƒ้…ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใ‚‚ใ€ ๅฟƒ้…ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:15
It's only a very, very small places, very small areas.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฐใ•ใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฐใ•ใชๅœฐๅŸŸใซใ™ใŽใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:19
But of course, when you watch things on the television, it always looks worse than it actually is.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใง็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใจใ€ ๅธธใซๅฎŸ้š›ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๆ‚ชใ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
08:26
Because if there's one thing we are doing at the moment, we are living in the age and I think this is true, Steve,
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ็พๅœจ่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒไธ€ใคใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใซ็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€
08:32
we are living in the age of hyperbole where everything has to be slightly exaggerated
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็งใŸใกใฏ่ช‡ๅผตใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใซ็”ŸใใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€้–ฒ่ฆงๆ•ฐใ‚„ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏๆ•ฐใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ ใ™ในใฆใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—่ช‡ๅผตใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
08:40
for views and clicks.
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08:43
It seems to be the important thing nowadays.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒไปŠใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใงใฏๅคงๅˆ‡ใชใ“ใจใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
08:46
So the more dramatic something is, the more the more people want to see it. So?
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒžใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ‚ใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€ ใ‚ˆใ‚ŠๅคšใใฎไบบใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใง๏ผŸ
08:51
So there is a tendency to exaggerate things?
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ใงใฏใ€็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’่ช‡ๅผตใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
08:55
Well, I think so anyway.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใจใซใ‹ใใใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใจใซใ‹ใไธ–็•Œไธญใงใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ
08:57
And it is a strange time that we are living in because we have all sorts of things going on in the world anyway, Mr.
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่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€็งใŸใกใŒ็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชๆ™‚ไปฃใงใ™ใ€‚็งใฏใพใ ไฝ“่ชฟใŒ่‰ฏใใชใ„ใฎใงใ€
09:05
Steve is here giving me as much support as he can because I'm not feeling well and yet.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใฏใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใฆใงใใ‚‹้™ใ‚Šใฎใ‚ตใƒใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
09:13
Look, look, I'm here.
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่ฆ‹ใฆใ€่ฆ‹ใฆใ€็งใฏใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
09:16
Do you want a prize, Mr. Duncan?
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่ณžๅ“ใŒๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“๏ผŸ
09:18
I don't want a prize. But but, but but I don't really want.
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่ณžๅ“ใชใ‚“ใฆๆฌฒใ—ใใชใ„ใ€‚ ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใฏใ—ใŸใใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
09:22
I don't I don't want any reward.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๅ ฑ้…ฌใฏใ„ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
09:23
To be honest, I don't do it for rewards.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€ใ”่ค’็พŽใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
09:27
I do it just because I hope it's helpful.
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ๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใคใจใ„ใ„ใชใจใ„ใ†็†็”ฑใ ใ‘ใงใใ†ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
09:30
And I suppose it's. It's fun as well.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ†ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
09:32
That's the reason why we do it. You see?
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใŒใใ†ใ™ใ‚‹็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
09:35
That's it. No other reason.
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ใใ‚ŒใงใŠใ—ใพใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œไปฅๅค–ใฎ็†็”ฑใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
09:38
It certainly isn't money.
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็ขบใ‹ใซใŠ้‡‘ใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
09:41
I know that if there's one thing I've realised on YouTube, you don't do it for money.
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YouTube ใง็งใŒๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ใŠ้‡‘ใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
09:47
Unless of course, your your sexy and young, in which case, well.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ปใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒผใง่‹ฅใ€…ใ—ใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏๅˆฅใงใ™ใŒใ€ ใใฎๅ ดๅˆใฏๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ€‚
09:54
Unfortunately that's not us unfortunately.
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ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
09:58
Because in a few days from now, Steve, I'm going to be another year older.
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ใ ใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ใจๆ•ฐๆ—ฅใงใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ ็งใฏใพใŸไธ€ใคๅนดใ‚’ใจใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ€‚
10:03
Can you believe it?
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ไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
10:04
When is that? Remind? Remind me again.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ„ใคใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใ‚‹๏ผŸ ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
10:06
I'm just trying to remember when that is.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ„ใคใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
10:09
The 12th of August. 12th of August.
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8ๆœˆ12ๆ—ฅใ€‚ 8ๆœˆ12ๆ—ฅใ€‚
10:11
Thank you for.
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ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:12
Thank you for reminding me, Mr. Duncan. I, I think I'd forgotten.
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ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ€ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:16
In fact, eight days from now, eight days, just eight,
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ๅฎŸใฏใ€ไปŠใ‹ใ‚‰ 8 ๆ—ฅๅพŒใ€8 ๆ—ฅๅพŒใ€ใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉ 8
10:20
eight days from now, it will be my birthday.
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ๆ—ฅๅพŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใฎ่ช•็”Ÿๆ—ฅใงใ™ใ€‚
10:24
And I have to say, at the moment I feel twice my age, not half my age.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅนด้ฝขใฏๅŠๅˆ†ใงใฏใชใใ€2ๅ€ใ ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
10:30
I actually feel double my age.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅนด้ฝขใฎ2ๅ€ใ ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:33
I know, isn't it strange though?
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‘ใฉใ€ๅค‰ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
10:35
What what what my situation on Friday through Steve
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ‚’้€šใ—ใฆ้‡‘ๆ›œๆ—ฅใซ็งใฎ็ŠถๆณใŒใฉใ†ใชใฃใŸใ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใจใ€
10:40
is how quickly life can turn or change. Yes,
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ไบบ็”Ÿใฏใฉใ‚Œใปใฉๆ€ฅ้€Ÿใซๆ–นๅ‘่ปขๆ›ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€
10:46
yes. One minute your life's find, the next minute disaster.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚‹็žฌ้–“ใซไบบ็”ŸใŒ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ๆฌกใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซใฏๅคงๆƒจไบ‹ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ€‚
10:50
So you went to bed perfectly.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅฎŒ็’งใซๅฏใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:52
Well, no problems whatsoever.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ไฝ•ใฎๅ•้กŒใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
10:54
And woke up with one side of your face swollen up? Yes.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็›ฎใŒ่ฆšใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ้ก”ใฎ็‰‡ๅดใŒ่…ซใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
10:58
due to some infection that must have been festering away for several days.
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ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๆ„ŸๆŸ“็—‡ใŒๅŽŸๅ› ใงใ€ ๆ•ฐๆ—ฅ้–“ใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆๅŒ–่†ฟใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใซ้•ใ„ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
11:03
We didn't get the detail. Says.
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่ฉณ็ดฐใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ€‚
11:05
Well, I'm just. You want me to support you, Mr. Duncan?
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ใพใ‚ใ€็งใฏใŸใ ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€็งใซใ‚ตใƒใƒผใƒˆใ—ใฆใปใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
11:08
do you want to say something? I'm just not saying anything at all.
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ไฝ•ใ‹่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใŸใ ใ€ใพใฃใŸใไฝ•ใ‚‚่จ€ใฃใฆใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
11:11
So there's a word festering.
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ใใ“ใงใ€ŒๅŒ–่†ฟใ€ใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
11:13
If something's festering, it means it's there in the background.
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๅŒ–่†ฟใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏ่ƒŒๆ™ฏใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
11:18
You don't really notice it.
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ใ‚ใพใ‚Šๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใญใ€‚
11:20
And something is building up slowly, like festering anger.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๆ‚ชๅŒ–ใ—ใŸๆ€’ใ‚Šใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒใ‚†ใฃใใ‚Šใจ่“„็ฉใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
11:24
Yeah.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
11:25
Which you could apply to the riots happening in the UK.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใง่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆšดๅ‹•ใซใ‚‚ๅฝ“ใฆใฏใพใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
11:29
You could say that anger has been festering over a long period of time,
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้•ทๅนดใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆๆ€’ใ‚ŠใŒใ“ใ˜ใ‚Œใ€
11:33
and then it broke out in the form of these isolated
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ใใ‚ŒใŒไปŠๅ›žใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ€‹ๅˆฅใฎใƒˆใƒฉใƒ–ใƒซใจใ—ใฆๅ‹ƒ็™บใ—ใŸใจใ‚‚่จ€ใˆใพใ™
11:39
troubles.
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11:40
And you could say the same with Mr.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€
11:41
Duncan's infection had been sort of gathering momentum.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐใฎๆ„ŸๆŸ“ใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚ๅŒๆง˜ใฎใ“ใจใŒใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎๅ‹ขใ„ใ‚’ๅข—ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
11:46
It had been sort of gradually growing the bacteria under festering away, and then suddenly broke out and Mr.
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ๅพใ€…ใซ็ดฐ่ŒใŒ ๅข—ๆฎ–ใ—ใฆๅŒ–่†ฟใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€็ช็„ถ็™บ็”Ÿใ—ใฆใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“
11:54
Duncan's face swelled up.
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ใฎ้ก”ใฏ่…ซใ‚ŒไธŠใŒใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
11:56
So that's a good word, fester to fully stir.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใ€ๅฎŒๅ…จใซใ‹ใๆททใœใ‚‹ใฎใซ็†ฑ็‹‚ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
11:59
But it came from it came from nowhere.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใฉใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ใจใ‚‚ใชใใ‚„ใฃใฆๆฅใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:01
That's the weird thing. I went to bed on Thursday night. No problem.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชใ“ใจใ ใ€‚ ็งใฏๆœจๆ›œๆ—ฅใฎๅคœใซๅฏใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅ•้กŒใชใ„ใ€‚
12:05
Woke up the next morning and my face was huge on one side.
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็ฟŒๆœ่ตทใใ‚‹ใจใ€็งใฎ้ก”ใฎ็‰‡ๅดใŒๅคงใใใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:08
You can still slightly see it.
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ใพใ ใ‚ใšใ‹ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
12:11
It's still there and it and it is still sensitive and painful, but really, really weird.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใพใ ใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใพใ ๆ•ๆ„Ÿใง็—›ใฟใ‚’ไผดใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:17
And now I'm taking these terrible antibiotics
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠใ€็งใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใฒใฉใ„ๆŠ—็”Ÿ็‰ฉ่ณชใ‚’ๆœ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ
12:21
and I have to say they they've made me go a little bit weird.
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ›ใ„ใง็งใฏๅฐ‘ใ—ใŠใ‹ใ—ใใชใฃใŸใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
12:25
And I know what you're going to say, Mr. Duncan.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ไปŠใฎ
12:27
There is no way you could be any weirder than you are, right now.
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ใ‚ใชใŸไปฅไธŠใซๅค‰ใชไบบใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
12:31
So, so that's the reason why Steve is here.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
12:34
Now, for those wondering, Steve is here.
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ใ•ใฆใ€็–‘ๅ•ใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
12:37
We're only here for about an hour, so make the most of it,
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ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ 1 ๆ™‚้–“ใปใฉใงใ™ใฎใงใ€ๆœ‰ๅŠนใซๆดป็”จใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
12:42
because I think I'm going to go to bed after I finish this, to be honest with you.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็ต‚ใ‚ใฃใŸใ‚‰ๅฏใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:47
But yes, you are right, Mr.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใฏใ„ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่จ€ใ†้€šใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€
12:49
Duncan. Sudden things can suddenly change.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็ช็„ถใฎใ“ใจใŒ็ช็„ถๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
12:51
You can be rather healthy. That happened to a friend of mine recently.
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ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚ๅฅๅบทใซใชใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๆœ€่ฟ‘็งใฎๅ‹ไบบใซ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:54
Fit, healthy, no cycles, 50 miles every other day.
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ๅฅๅบทใงใ€่‡ช่ปข่ปŠใซไน—ใ‚‰ใšใ€ไธ€ๆ—ฅใŠใใซ50ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ€‚
13:01
Goes to the gym.
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ใ‚ธใƒ ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
13:02
Does all this very fitting health a similar age to me.
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ใ“ใฎ้žๅธธใซๅฅๅบท็š„ใชๅฅๅบท็Šถๆ…‹ใฏใ€็งใจๅŒใ˜ใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎๅนด้ฝขใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
13:06
Suddenly gets an infection in his, bladder somewhere.
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็ช็„ถใ€่†€่ƒฑใฎใฉใ“ใ‹ใซๆ„ŸๆŸ“็—‡ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
13:11
the first lot of antibiotics don't work.
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ๆœ€ๅˆใฎๆŠ—็”Ÿ็‰ฉ่ณชใฏๅŠนใ‹ใชใ„ใ€‚ ๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซใฏ
13:15
ends up in hospital, and, you know,
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ๅ…ฅ้™ขใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
13:19
from what appears to be a very healthy standpoint, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke.
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้žๅธธใซๅฅๅบทใใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ ใŒใ€้ฃฒ้…’ใ‚‚ๅ–ซ็…™ใ‚‚ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
13:24
Suddenly ends up in hospital with a catheter stuck up his urethra.
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็ช็„ถใ€ๅฐฟ้“ใซใ‚ซใƒ†ใƒผใƒ†ใƒซใŒๅˆบใ•ใฃใฆๅ…ฅ้™ขใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ ใ€‚
13:28
I mean, you know, you just think, you know, and then this has happened to you.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใŸใ ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่บซใซ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
13:34
I've known friends that have suddenly died.
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็ช็„ถไบกใใชใฃใŸๅ‹ไบบใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:37
People, you know, you can go out on the roads.
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ไบบใ€…ใฏใ€้“่ทฏใซๅ‡บใ‹ใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
13:39
One minute you're driving along happy, and then boom, somebody smashes into you
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ๅนธใ›ใใ†ใซ่ปŠใ‚’้‹่ปขใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹็žฌ้–“ ใซใƒ‰ใ‚ซใƒผใƒณใจ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ็ชใฃ่พผใ‚“ใงใใ‚‹
13:44
or you run over somebody because you weren't concentrating.
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ใ‹ใ€้›†ไธญๅŠ›ใ‚’ๆฌ ใ„ใŸใŸใ‚ใซ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’่ฝขใ„ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:47
Your whole life can suddenly change just like that.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”Ÿๅ…จไฝ“ใŒใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็ช็„ถๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
13:51
It doesn't have to be health. It doesn't have to be health.
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ๅฅๅบทใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅฅๅบทใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
13:54
It can be all sorts of things.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹็จฎ้กžใฎใ“ใจใŒ่€ƒใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
13:55
You know, you you might be happily married and you think, oh, I'm so lucky
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ๅนธใ›ใช็ตๅฉš็”Ÿๆดปใ‚’้€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ—ใ€
14:00
to be happily married with my beautiful wife, and we have this wonderful life.
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็พŽใ—ใ„ๅฆปใจๅนธใ›ใซ็ตๅฉšใงใใฆๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅนธ้‹ใ ใ€ ็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’้€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
14:04
And then you find out that she's running around with other men and she's having affairs.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใŒไป–ใฎ็”ทใŸใกใจ้€ƒใ’ๅ›žใฃใฆใ„ใฆ ใ€ๆตฎๆฐ—ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
14:09
Or maybe she's planning to run off with another man and.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏๅˆฅใฎ็”ทใจ้€ƒใ’ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
14:14
And suddenly your life just just completely.
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ใใ—ใฆ็ช็„ถใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”ŸใฏๅฎŒๅ…จใซๅฎŒๅ…จใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
14:18
We can say that your life is turned upside down.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”Ÿใฏใฒใฃใใ‚Š่ฟ”ใฃใŸใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
14:21
It's a very interesting phrase. So it's a great phrase.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:24
If your life is turned upside down, it means everything suddenly becomes chaotic.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”ŸใŒใฒใฃใใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ใ™ในใฆใŒ็ช็„ถๆททไนฑใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใพใงใฎไบบ็”Ÿ
14:29
Everything you thought you knew in your life has completely changed.
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ใง็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใฏ ใ™ในใฆๅฎŒๅ…จใซๅค‰ใ‚ใฃใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:39
I think we're depressing people on the live stream.
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็งใŸใกใฏใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใงไบบใ€…ใ‚’ๆ†‚้ฌฑใซใ•ใ›ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:42
Oh, wait, why?
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ€ใชใœใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
14:43
just some of the comments, but, but yes, we do want to talk about that.
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ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใฎใปใ‚“ใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใ™ใŒใ€ ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:48
we have to, carry on fighting, don't we?
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็งใŸใกใฏๆˆฆใ„็ถšใ‘ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใญ๏ผŸ
14:52
yeah.
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14:52
But yes, I mean, big things can happen at any time, but they they do.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅคงใใชๅ‡บๆฅไบ‹ใฏใ„ใคใงใ‚‚่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใŒใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
14:58
They are, rare.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใพใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚
15:01
Relatively rare. Yeah.
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ๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„ใพใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:03
most of the time, that's that's the point I'm trying to make about right about the troubles is another story.
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ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒ ๅ•้กŒใซใคใ„ใฆๆญฃใ—ใไผใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹็‚นใชใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏใพใŸๅˆฅใฎ่ฉฑใงใ™ใ€‚
15:10
I know somebody and,
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็งใฏ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใใ—ใฆใ€
15:14
where my mum used to live.
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็งใฎๆฏใŒไปฅๅ‰ไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
15:16
the neighbour, parent looks you know, on the surface, everything seems all right.
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่ฟ‘ๆ‰€ใฎไบบใ€่ฆชใฎ้ก”ใฏ ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€่กจ้ข็š„ใซใฏใ™ในใฆใŒใ†ใพใใ„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
15:21
Married with children. And then suddenly,
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็ตๅฉšใ—ใฆๅญไพ›ใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆœ็ช็„ถใ€
15:26
his wife wakes up one morning but goes downstairs and says, I'm leaving you.
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ๅฝผใฎๅฆปใŒ็›ฎใ‚’่ฆšใพใ™ใจใ€ ้šŽไธ‹ใซ้™ใ‚Šใฆใใฆใ€ใ€Œๅˆฅใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
15:30
No warning, nothing.
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่ญฆๅ‘Šใ‚‚ไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:32
I don't know if this relationship can't do it anymore.
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ใ“ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใŒใ‚‚ใ†ใงใใชใ„ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:34
Goodbye. And walks out.
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ใ•ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‰ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆๆญฉใๅ‡บใ™ใ€‚
15:36
This is it. And then divorce papers.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ้›ขๅฉšๅฑŠใ€‚
15:38
And he doesn't know why.
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ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใซใฏใใฎ็†็”ฑใŒๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:40
I mean, I don't I don't know the reasons, but.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็†็”ฑใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
15:44
Or get into that.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใใ‚Œใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
15:45
But just.
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15:45
Yeah, life can suddenly change.
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ใŸใ ใ€ใŸใ ใ€‚
ใใ†ใ€ไบบ็”Ÿใฏ็ช็„ถๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
15:47
So make the most of it when it's going well.
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ใงใ™ใฎใงใ€่ชฟๅญใŒ่‰ฏใ„ๆ™‚ใฏๆœ€ๅคง้™ใซๆดป็”จใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
15:50
Which is why people say to me, why are you still working, Mr.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใไบบใ€…ใฏ็งใซใ“ใ†่จ€ใ†ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“
15:53
Steve, you're 63.
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ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ 63 ๆญณใงใ™ใ€‚
15:55
You should retire because these are your best years.
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ไปŠใŒๆœ€้ซ˜ใฎๅนดใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅผ•้€€ใ—ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
15:58
You don't know you could be ill in five years time and then you regret it.
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5ๅนดๅพŒใซใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒ็—…ๆฐ—ใซใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใš ใ€ใใฎๆ™‚ใซๅพŒๆ‚”ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
16:02
Well, it's a good point.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„็‚นใงใ™ใ€‚
16:03
it is a good point, but I won't regret it because I made the right decision at the time for me.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„็‚นใงใ™ใŒใ€ ็งใซใจใฃใฆๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฎๆฑบๆ–ญใฏๆญฃใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงๅพŒๆ‚”ใฏใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:10
So, if something happened to me, if I got ill, I would just say, well, that's life.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ—็งใซไฝ•ใ‹ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ ็—…ๆฐ—ใซใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏใŸใ ใ€Œใใ‚ŒใŒไบบ็”Ÿใ ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
16:15
I can't do anything about that.
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚ใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:16
You know, in theory, I should have another 20 years, but who knows?
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็†่ซ–็š„ใซใฏ ใ‚ใจ 20 ๅนดใฏๆŒใคใฏใšใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่ชฐใซใ‚‚ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:19
but this is this, isn't it?
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ใงใ‚‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ“ใ‚Œใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
16:22
And there is a positive point to make.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€่‚ฏๅฎš็š„ใช็‚นใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
16:25
Even though this sounds negative, my positive point would be treasure each day that comes your way.
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ใƒใ‚ฌใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใซ่žใ“ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใฎใƒใ‚ธใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใช็‚นใฏใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๆฏŽๆ—ฅใŒๅฎ็‰ฉใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
16:33
And when you can actually get out of bed and open the curtains and see the sun and the sky,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใƒ™ใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ‡บใฆใ‚ซใƒผใƒ†ใƒณใ‚’้–‹ใ‘ใฆ ๅคช้™ฝใจ็ฉบใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ€
16:40
and you can walk outside and feel the breeze on your face, that's it.
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ๅค–ใ‚’ๆญฉใ„ใฆ้ก”ใซ้ขจใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใŸใ‚‰ใ€ ใใ‚Œใง็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
16:44
That's you all.
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16:45
Now, in that moment you are alive.
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ไปŠใ€ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:49
You are well, you are healthy, you are. You are there.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅฅๅบทใงใ™ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
16:53
Which is something that our dear friend Lewis, who's on today, encapsulates,
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅๅ‡บๆผ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹็งใŸใกใฎ่ฆชๆ„›ใชใ‚‹ๅ‹ไบบใ€ใƒซใ‚คใ‚นใŒ ่ฆ็ด„ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ€
16:59
lives life to the full things positive goes out and just just just experiences what's ever out there,
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ใƒใ‚ธใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ๆœ€ๅคง้™ใซไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’้€ใ‚Š ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใพใงใซไฝ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ใใ“
17:06
what is out there and what will be, will be stays fit, which is very, very important.
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ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ€ใใ—ใฆใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’ใŸใ ๅ˜ใซ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใ€ๅฅๅบทใ‚’็ถญๆŒใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ† ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใจใฆใ‚‚ใจใฆใ‚‚้‡่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚
17:12
Yes. to your long term health, in fact, they've said now that walking 20 minutes or half an hour a day,
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ้•ทๆœŸ็š„ใชๅฅๅบทใซใจใฃใฆใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ 1ๆ—ฅ20ๅˆ†ใ‹30ๅˆ†ใฎใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒผใ‚ญใƒณใ‚ฐใฏ็‰นๅŠน่–ฌใฎ้–‹็™บใซๅŒนๆ•ตใ™ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ
17:20
is equivalent
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17:21
to the development of a wonder drug, that would just be the end.
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ใ€ ใใ‚Œใงใฏ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
17:26
All wonder drugs isn't.
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ใ™ในใฆใฎ็‰นๅŠน่–ฌใฏใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
17:28
There's no nothing you can do for your health.
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ๅฅๅบทใฎใŸใ‚ใซใงใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
17:31
That's that's better than just taking exercise every day.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใŸใ ้‹ๅ‹•ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
17:35
Yeah.
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17:35
There is no wonder drug that would ever be developed that could be as good as that.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใปใฉๅ„ชใ‚ŒใŸ่–ฌใŒ้–‹็™บใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ไธๆ€่ญฐใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
17:40
It doesn't stop you getting hit by a bus, though.
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ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ใƒใ‚นใซ่ฝขใ‹ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’้˜ฒใใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
17:43
That's the problem. Well, you need to be careful. Yeah.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ•้กŒใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใพใ‚ใ€ๆณจๆ„ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
17:45
I mean, yeah, some people will get run over by a bus when they go out for a walk.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ๆ•ฃๆญฉใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚‰ใƒใ‚นใซ่ฝขใ‹ใ‚Œใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
17:49
And my my point is just not if you are in the moment where you are, well,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅฅๅบทใง็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใ‚‹็žฌ้–“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ ใ‘ใงใฏใชใใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ
17:54
healthy, alive, that that is it that that's the moment that we're all in.
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็งใŸใกๅ…จๅ“กใŒใ„ใ‚‹็žฌ้–“ใ ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
18:00
That's the moment you're in right now.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใชใŸใŒไปŠใ„ใ‚‹็žฌ้–“ใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
18:02
So. So never take those things for granted, because sometimes we waste.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๆฑบใ—ใฆๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šๅ‰ใฎใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใฏใ„ใ‘ใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ๆ™‚ใซใฏ็„ก้ง„ใชใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
18:06
We waste our days, don't we, Steve?
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็งใŸใกใฏๆ—ฅใ€…ใ‚’็„ก้ง„ใซ้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–๏ผŸ
18:08
Oh, in front of the internet.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆใฎๅ‰ใงใ€‚
18:10
texting.
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ใƒ†ใ‚ญใ‚นใƒˆใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ€‚
18:13
I spend a lot of time just reading stupid news stories,
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็งใฏใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆใงใใ ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚น่จ˜ไบ‹ใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใงใ€
18:18
on the internet and getting myself wound up and angry.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใ‚’ๅทปใ่พผใ‚“ใง่…นใ‚’็ซ‹ใฆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๅคšใใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:22
Yeah, about about, you know, articles.
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ใˆใˆใ€่จ˜ไบ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใ€‚
18:26
And then I write comments underneath and join in with all the other hundreds and thousands of people
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎไธ‹ใซใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๆ›ธใ„ใฆใ€ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๆ›ธใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ ไป–ใฎไฝ•็™พใ€ไฝ•ๅƒไบบใ‚‚ใฎไบบใ€…ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ€
18:31
that are writing comments and then, oh, do I get a like, cavity likes, have I got have any dislikes?
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ„ใ„ใญใ€ ่™ซๆญฏใฎใ„ใ„ใญใ€ๅซŒใ„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใฏใ‚ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
18:37
And it's all, it's all a little bubble. Yes.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ในใฆใ€ๅฐใ•ใชใƒใƒ–ใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
18:40
But what you have to remember, as I said at the start, Steve, this is what it's all about nowadays.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€่ฆšใˆใฆใŠใ„ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใซ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒไปŠใฎใ™ในใฆใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
18:46
It's getting reactions.
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18:48
We could say things on here, Steve, that would get a reaction.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ“ใงไฝ•ใ‹ๅๅฟœใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
18:53
And within a month we would probably get hundreds and hundreds of viewers.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€1 ใ‹ๆœˆไปฅๅ†…ใซใ€ ใŠใใ‚‰ใไฝ•็™พใ‚‚ใฎ่ฆ–่ด่€…ใŒ้›†ใพใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
18:59
But I don't want to do that because you could only do it for a short amount of time
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใฏใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏใ—ใŸใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€
19:04
before people then move off and watch another person doing the same thing.
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ไบบใ€…ใŒ็ซ‹ใกๅŽปใ‚Šใ€ๅˆฅใฎไบบใŒ ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใพใงใฎ็Ÿญใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ—ใ‹ใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
19:09
So we could be quite outrageous if we wanted to.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใใฎๆฐ—ใซใชใ‚Œใฐใ€้žๅธธใซใจใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
19:14
I am very capable of doing that.
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็งใซใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใจใฆใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
19:17
I could say things now that would be outrageous.
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ไปŠใชใ‚‰ใจใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
19:21
Steve's could, in fact, sometimes.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ใใฎๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
19:23
But sometimes Steve does say things that are outrageous.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฏๆ™‚ใ€…ใจใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
19:27
Not not terrible, but sometimes a little outrageous. But
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ใฒใฉใใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๆ™‚ใ€…ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆณ•ๅค–ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
19:33
it that's what it's all about.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ™ในใฆใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
19:35
And your reaction, Steve, is what internet sites,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅๅฟœใฏใ€ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใ€
19:40
media outlets and people who who publish all of their stupid comments on Twitter, that's what they want.
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ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ€ใใ—ใฆ ใƒ„ใ‚คใƒƒใ‚ฟใƒผใงๆ„šใ‹ใชใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ใ™ในใฆๅ…ฌ้–‹ใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใŒๆœ›ใ‚€ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
19:48
They want a reaction because that what
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅๅฟœใ‚’ๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚ŒใŒ
19:51
that's what generates views, clicks and money.
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ใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใใ—ใฆใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ™ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
19:56
That's what it's all about.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ™ในใฆใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
19:57
It is it is nothing to do with the subjects.
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ใใ‚Œใฏไธป้กŒใจใฏไฝ•ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:01
It's nothing to do with politics.
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ๆ”ฟๆฒปใจใฏไฝ•ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:03
It's nothing to do with religion.
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ๅฎ—ๆ•™ใจใฏไฝ•ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:05
It's nothing to do with anything.
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ใใ‚Œใฏไฝ•ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:08
It's to do with getting a reaction from another person.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€็›ธๆ‰‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎๅๅฟœใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
20:14
And when you get that reaction, that is a click.
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ใใฎๅๅฟœใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใงใ™ใ€‚
20:19
That is a view, that is interaction.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒฉใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใงใ™ใ€‚
20:23
And Twitter is the worst place.
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ใใ—ใฆTwitterใฏๆœ€ๆ‚ชใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ ใ€‚
20:25
Now, Steve often tells me that he he's never been on Twitter.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฏใ‚ˆใ็งใซใ€Twitter ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:30
He didn't have a he doesn't use it.
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ๅฝผใฏๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:32
And all I can say is that is the worst place on earth.
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใŒ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€ใใ“ใฏๅœฐ็ƒไธŠใงๆœ€ๆ‚ชใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
20:37
It is the worst place.
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ๆœ€ๆ‚ชใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
20:39
Now I have a Twitter account and I do look at Twitter,
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ไปŠใฏTwitterใฎใ‚ขใ‚ซใ‚ฆใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใฆTwitterใ‚‚่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ™
20:44
but quite often I regret looking at it
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ใŒใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใใฆ5ๅˆ†ไปฅไธŠ่ฆ‹ใฆๅพŒๆ‚”ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
20:48
for more than five minutes because it is incredibly.
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20:53
I would say it's destructive.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็ ดๅฃŠ็š„ใ ใจ่จ€ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
20:56
That's that's it.
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20:57
But the people on there now are generating
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใฏไปŠใ€
21:02
outrage, discussion, conflict, argument,
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ๆ€’ใ‚Šใ€่ญฐ่ซ–ใ€ๅฏพ็ซ‹ใ€ๅฃ่ซ–ใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:06
because then they will get the traffic, they will get the clicks, which then generates money.
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ใใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใƒˆใƒฉใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ—ใ€ ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ—ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:14
And this is the strange cycle that we're now in.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใŒไปŠ้™ฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชใ‚ตใ‚คใ‚ฏใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚
21:18
And even the TV or the big media outlets
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใ‚„ๅคงๆ‰‹ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใงใ•ใˆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไบบใ€…ใŒๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€
21:23
do the same thing because they've realised that's what people want.
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ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
21:27
They want to be outraged.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆฟ€ๆ€’ใ—ใŸใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
21:29
They want to have conflict, even YouTube.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใŸใจใˆYouTubeใงใ‚ใฃใฆใ‚‚ๅฏพ็ซ‹ใ‚’ๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:33
I'm sorry. YouTube.
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ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใƒฆใƒผใƒใƒฅใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
21:35
I mean, I know I've been on here for nearly 18 years doing this, but you are just as bad.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŒใ“ใ“ใง 18 ๅนด่ฟ‘ใใ“ใฎไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใŸใ“ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใใ‚‰ใ„ๆ‚ชใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:41
You pretend that you care about people, but really you are just as bad.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไบบใ‚’ๅคงๅˆ‡ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใตใ‚Šใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใฏๅŒใ˜ใใ‚‰ใ„ๆ‚ชใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:48
You want the anger, you want the outrage.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆ€’ใ‚ŠใŒๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใ€ๆ€’ใ‚ŠใŒๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
21:51
You want the the the fighting.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆˆฆใ„ใ‚’ๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:54
Because it generates views.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:56
It generates clicks.
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ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใŒ็™บ็”Ÿใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:58
You want the hate in your comment section because people will come back to view the comments
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ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆๆฌ„ใซๅซŒๆ‚ชๆ„Ÿใ‚’ไธŽใˆใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€ ไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’่ฆ‹ใซๆˆปใฃใฆใใฆ
22:06
and then the video will play, which means you get more and more and more people watching,
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ใ€ใใฎๅพŒใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใŒๅ†็”Ÿใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใพใ™ใพใ™ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ่ฆ–่ดใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
22:13
which means of course you can play your ads, you can have all sorts of interaction and that just builds up.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅฝ“็„ถใ€ๅบƒๅ‘Šใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ—ใ€ ใ™ในใฆใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ไธ€็จฎใฎ็›ธไบ’ไฝœ็”จใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ่“„็ฉใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
22:20
So the more, the more outrageous
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใจใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ™ใ‚‹ใปใฉ
22:24
you are, the more you get those viewers.
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ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎ่ฆ–่ด่€…ใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
22:28
So. So I think quite this is serious, Steve, because it's, it is the state of everything at the moment.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Šๆทฑๅˆปใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ– ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฎใ™ในใฆใฎ็Šถๆ…‹ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
22:37
If you put the television on, it is always the same thing.
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ใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใ„ใคใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
22:41
Violence, aggravation, death, destruction, never anything nice.
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ๆšดๅŠ›ใ€ๆ‚ชๅŒ–ใ€ๆญปใ€็ ดๅฃŠใ€ๆฑบใ—ใฆ่‰ฏใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
22:45
You never see flowers growing in the field
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็•‘ใซ่ŠฑใŒๅ’ฒใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆง˜ๅญใ‚’ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใง่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
22:49
on the news.
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22:50
Oh, today some very lovely flowers came up in someone's garden.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚็ด ๆ•ตใช่ŠฑใŒ่ชฐใ‹ใฎๅบญใซๅ’ฒใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
22:55
And now we go over live to the garden where the lovely flowers are growing in the garden.
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠใ€็งใŸใกใฏ ๅบญใซ็ด ๆ•ตใช่ŠฑใŒๅ’ฒใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅบญใซใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใง่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
23:01
No one will watch that.
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ใใ‚“ใชใ‚‚ใฎ่ชฐใ‚‚่ฆ‹ใชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
23:03
But of course, if someone came into the garden and started destroying the plants and breaking them, then.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅบญใซๅ…ฅใฃใฆใใฆ ๆค็‰ฉใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆŠ˜ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใใฎใจใใฏใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
23:09
Then you would have a new story.
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ใใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐๆ–ฐใ—ใ„็‰ฉ่ชžใŒ็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
23:11
Because then you could report on that terrible event.
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ใใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ‚ใฎๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ๅ‡บๆฅไบ‹ใ‚’ๅ ฑ้“ใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
23:15
The flowers have been destroyed, they've been torn up.
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่Šฑใฏ็ ดๅฃŠใ•ใ‚Œใ€ๅผ•ใ่ฃ‚ใ‹ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:18
They've been wrecked by someone.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไฝ•่€…ใ‹ใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆ็ ดๅฃŠใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
23:21
And then suddenly you have a more interesting story because you have something to talk about.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ไฝ• ใ‹่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใฃใฆใ€็ช็„ถใ€ใ‚‚ใฃใจ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„่ฉฑใŒๅ‡บใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚
23:27
Something dramatic is happening.
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ไฝ•ใ‹ๅŠ‡็š„ใชใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
23:29
And that's what I'm saying about the age
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23:31
we are living in now because of the internet and because of information coming at us so fast.
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ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆใฎใŠใ‹ใ’ใงใ€ ใใ—ใฆๆƒ…ๅ ฑใŒ้žๅธธใซ้€Ÿใ็งใŸใกใซๅฑŠใใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใฃใŸไปŠใ€็งใŸใกใŒ็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ™‚ไปฃใซใคใ„ใฆ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
23:36
Steve, I so I am nodding off.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€็งใฏใ†ใชใšใใพใ™ใ€‚
23:41
You've been on a five minute rant.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ5ๅˆ†้–“ๆšด่จ€ใ‚’ๅใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
23:43
This is not a rant.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆšด่จ€ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
23:44
I'm sure there must be a lot of people now going, yeah, yeah, that's right, you're right.
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ใใฃใจไปŠ่กŒใไบบใ‚‚ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใ‚‹ใฏใšใ€ใใ†ใใ†ใ€ ใใ†ใใ†ใ€ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
23:51
And YouTube is just as bad because that's the problem.
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ใใ—ใฆ YouTube ใ‚‚ๅŒๆง˜ใซๆ‚ชใ„ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ•้กŒใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใ€‚
23:54
YouTube keeps saying we want everyone to be kind to each other whilst allowing people
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YouTube ใฏใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒไบ’ใ„ใซๅคฑ็คผใงๆใ‚ใ—ใๆ†Žใ—ใฟๅˆใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’่จฑๅฎนใ™ใ‚‹ไธ€ๆ–นใงใ€่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใŠไบ’ใ„ใซ่ฆชๅˆ‡ใงใ‚ใฃใฆใปใ—ใ„ใจ่จ€ใ„็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ™
24:00
to be rude and horrible and hateful towards each other, because that's
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒ
24:05
what gets views and clicks.
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่ฆ–่ดๆ•ฐใจใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏๆ•ฐใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
24:10
It's true.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใงใ™ใ€‚
24:14
Yes, talking about going back
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24:16
to living in the moment, that is something that I'm always constantly working on.
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ไปŠใ“ใฎ็žฌ้–“ใฎ็”Ÿๆดปใซๆˆปใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒๅธธใซๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
24:20
It's something I'm very bad at.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒใจใฆใ‚‚่‹ฆๆ‰‹ใชใ“ใจใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
24:21
I'm always in here thinking, thinking, not really truly with it, whereas but
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็งใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใฆใ€่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Š่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใŒ ใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใใ‚Œใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ€
24:27
but I mean, it would seem that I'm with it when I'm on this live stream and I am.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใฏใ€็งใŒใใ‚Œใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ—ใ€ ็งใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใใ†ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
24:33
This is the one, one of the few places I am absolutely in the moment because I have to be.
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ใ“ใ“ใฏใ€ ็งใŒไปŠใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€็ตถๅฏพใซใ„ใ‚‹ๆ•ฐๅฐ‘ใชใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎ 1 ใคใงใ™ใ€‚
24:39
Because I know you're all watching.
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็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใŒ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚
24:41
So I can't sort of drift off and pretend I'm not really here and start
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใตใ‚‰ใตใ‚‰ใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใชใ„ใตใ‚Šใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ€
24:45
thinking about some news items or problems or something.
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ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚น่จ˜ไบ‹ใ‚„ๅ•้กŒใชใฉใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
24:50
I have to be absolutely in the moment, otherwise you will know, oh, what's Mr.
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็งใฏ็ตถๅฏพใซใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซใ„ใชใใฆใฏใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ†ใ—ใชใ„ใจใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™
24:56
Steve doing? He's not really listening. He's not concentrating properly.
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ใ€‚ ๅฝผใฏ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่žใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅฝผใฏ้ฉๅˆ‡ใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใจใ„ใ†
25:00
So that's.
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25:00
And and the other time I'm really in the moment is when I'm singing or we're involved in music
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ใ“ใจใงใ€‚
ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใคใฏใ€็งใŒ ใ“ใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ™‚ใงใ™ใ€‚ๆญŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ™‚ใ‚„้Ÿณๆฅฝใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ™‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
25:06
because you have to be because you have to concentrate on the other one is when I'm swimming,
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰้›†ไธญใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฏๆฐดๆณณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใงใ™ใ€‚็งใฏ
25:11
which I don't do very often, but swimming.
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ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใพใ‚Š้ ป็นใซใฏใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๆฐดๆณณใงใ™ใ€‚
25:15
I really have to focus on swimming because I just sink.
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ๆฒˆใ‚€ใ ใ‘ใชใฎใงใ€ๆณณใใ“ใจใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
25:19
We always, I find, where was the last time you went for a swim?
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็งใŸใกใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆœ€ๅพŒใซๆณณใŽใซ่กŒใฃใŸใฎใฏใฉใ“ใงใ™ใ‹?
25:21
I can't remember, oh, years and years ago.
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ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚ๅ‰ใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
25:24
Probably the last time was when you filmed it at the beach.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใๆœ€ๅพŒใซๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ—ใŸใฎใฏใƒ“ใƒผใƒใงใฎๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
25:28
At the beach, which you sometimes show.
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ๆ™‚ใ€…่ฆ‹ใ›ใ‚‹ใƒ“ใƒผใƒใงใ€‚
25:30
That was probably the last time, but I always I'm always in the moment when I'm swimming
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ“ใ‚ŒใŒๆœ€ๅพŒใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ๆณณใ„ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใฏๅธธใซใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
25:35
because, I'm not a very good swimmer and I have to concentrate on not drowning.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏใ‚ใพใ‚ŠๆณณใŽใŒๅพ—ๆ„ใงใฏใชใ„ใฎใง ใ€ๆบบใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
25:40
so that sort of survival instinct kicks in.
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25:43
So that's three things.
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25:44
But if I go for a walk or run, my brain can be I can just forget about it.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๆ•ฃๆญฉใ—ใŸใ‚Š่ตฐใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€่„ณใฏ ใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
25:50
I wouldn't even couldn't tell you anything.
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็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใซไฝ•ใ‚‚่จ€ใˆใชใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
25:53
Sometimes I can go for like, a half an hour walk.
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ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ€30ๅˆ†ใปใฉๆ•ฃๆญฉใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
25:55
And I couldn't tell you anything about it because I pass all this beautiful scenery.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใฎ็พŽใ—ใ„ๆ™ฏ่‰ฒใ‚’้€šใ‚Š้ŽใŽใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚่จ€ใˆใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
26:00
But none of it.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ„ใ‚ใ„ใ‚่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใง
26:01
I haven't registered with me because I've been thinking about things.
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็™ป้Œฒใฏใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
26:06
but if it's
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something I've got to really concentrate on, then I can be in the moment.
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็งใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ ใ€ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
26:10
Then, which is, Yeah, because it's stress.
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ใใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
26:14
It's stress. If you're not in the moment, you're actually causing stress to yourself.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซ่‡จใ‚“ใงใ„ใชใ„ใจใ€ ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใซใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
26:18
I know it gives me stress, so I'm going to unsubscribe.
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ใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€็™ป้Œฒใ‚’่งฃ้™คใ™ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
26:22
I think I'm going to make a decision here.
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ใ“ใ“ใงๆฑบๆ–ญใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:24
Like again, that, because I do subscribe to a, I won't say which one it is, a newspaper.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€็งใฏๆ–ฐ่žใ‚’่ณผ่ชญใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ ใใ‚ŒใŒๆ–ฐ่žใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
26:32
And I get articles obviously sent through to me from them.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏๆ˜Žใ‚‰ใ‹ใซๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‹ใ‚‰่จ˜ไบ‹ใ‚’็งใซ้€ใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
26:36
Pay so much every month.
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ๆฏŽๆœˆใใ‚“ใชใซๆ‰•ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใ€‚
26:37
because a lot of newspapers now, you don't go and buy the, the newspaper, you read them online.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ไปŠใฎๆ–ฐ่žใฎๅคšใใฏใ€ๆ–ฐ่žใ‚’่ฒทใ„ใซ่กŒใใฎใงใฏใชใ ใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่ชญใ‚€ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
26:43
I'm going to unsubscribe because, it's just it really I don't need that stress in my life
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่ณผ่ชญใ‚’่งฃ้™คใ™ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€
26:49
because 99% of those stories don't have any effect on my life at all.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ่จ˜ไบ‹ใฎ 99% ใฏ ็งใฎไบบ็”ŸใซใพใฃใŸใๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ไธŽใˆใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚็งใฎไบบ็”Ÿใซใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใฏใพใฃใŸใๅฟ…่ฆใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
26:54
Yeah, they're just things that will get me riled up and angry. Yes.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ็งใ‚’ใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ•ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆ€’ใ‚‰ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
26:57
Well, that's, in fact, what you're doing as Steve is just proving the point I just made.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใฎใจใ“ใ‚ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒ ไปŠ็งใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่จผๆ˜Žใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใชใฎใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
27:02
That's what gets the views.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
27:05
That's what gets the clicks on the internet.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆไธŠใงใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
27:08
And I know now, I know most people won't actually sort of take any notice of what I'm saying now.
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠใ€็งใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎไบบใฏ็ง ใŒไปŠ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏไฝ•ใฎๆณจๆ„ใ‚‚ๆ‰•ใ‚ใชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
27:13
Maybe they're going to click away because because it, it is maybe too true or too real
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆ้ ใ–ใ‹ใฃใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€
27:21
where you're exposing the, the the reality of it.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใฎ็พๅฎŸใ‚’ๆšด้œฒใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚็œŸๅฎŸใ‹ใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚็พๅฎŸ็š„ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
27:27
So, so when you think about it, the reason why we often do things is because we are getting something from it.
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่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใ‚‹ใจใ€็งใŸใกใŒ้ ป็นใซไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹็†็”ฑใฏใ€ ใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
27:35
And and it is true, people are selfish and it is nature that makes us all selfish.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใงใ™ใ€ ไบบใ€…ใฏๅˆฉๅทฑ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกๅ…จๅ“กใ‚’ๅˆฉๅทฑ็š„ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่‡ช็„ถใงใ™ใ€‚
27:41
But of course it is possible to to somehow use
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
27:46
that impulse in certain ways, especially with Mr.
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็‰นใซใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใŒ็‰นๅฎšใฎๆ–ฐ่žใ‚’่ณผ่ชญใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใซใฏใ€ใใฎ่กๅ‹•ใ‚’ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงๅˆฉ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏๅฏ่ƒฝใงใ™
27:51
Steve subscribing to that particular newspaper.
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27:56
So because it feeds you the things you want to read, it will carry on doing it.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ชญใฟใŸใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใง ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚
28:03
And then of course, you get pleasure from looking at it or you like to react to it.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงๅ–œใณใ‚’ๅพ—ใŸใ‚Š ใ€ใใ‚Œใซๅๅฟœใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
28:08
And so they give you more of it and then you subscribe for another month
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅคšใใฎใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ—ใ€ ใ•ใ‚‰ใซ 1 ใ‹ๆœˆใ€
28:13
and then another month and another month and it just continues.
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ใ•ใ‚‰ใซ 1 ใ‹ๆœˆใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซ 1 ใ‹ๆœˆๅฎšๆœŸ่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็ถ™็ถšใ•ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
28:18
And then after a while you are doing the same thing.
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ใใ—ใฆใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
28:22
Maybe, or you've been doing it for maybe 2 or 3 years and not even realise that all of that time has passed
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ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใ2ใ€3ๅนดใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใฆ ใ€
28:30
in which time they've made loads of money out of you and you have gained nothing.
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ใใฎ้–“ใซๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’็จผใ„ใงใ„ใฆ ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚ๅพ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
28:37
There we go. Mr.
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ใใ‚Œใงใฏ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“
28:38
Duncan, I've made a note to myself that I'm going to do this when we come off line.
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ใ€่ฉฑใŒ ๅˆ‡ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚‰ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ†ใจ่‡ชๅˆ†ใซใƒกใƒขใ—ใฆใŠใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
28:44
If I've written it down, it's more real, and I'm more likely to do it.
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ๆ›ธใ็•™ใ‚ใฆใŠใ‘ใฐ ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š็พๅฎŸ็š„ใงใ€ๅฎŸ่กŒใ™ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒ้ซ˜ใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
28:49
Yeah. So there's a note.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ“ใงใƒกใƒขใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
28:51
And I know you don't like me doing this, but there's a note for me to stop doing it.
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็งใŒใ“ใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ใฎใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ๆณจๆ„ๆ›ธใใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
28:55
I'm sure they will entice me back with a half price offer in a month's time.
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ใใฃใจไธ€ใƒถๆœˆๅพŒใซใฏๅŠ้กใฎใ‚ชใƒ•ใ‚กใƒผใง็งใ‚’่ช˜ๆƒ‘ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
29:00
That's it.
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29:00
But but it is that.
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ใใ‚ŒใงใŠใ—ใพใ„ใ€‚
ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใใ‚Œใงใ€‚
29:03
But but this is the reason why I mention YouTube.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒ YouTube ใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ™ใ‚‹็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
29:06
Because if you look at people who are getting lots and lots of views or lots and lots of people
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎๅ†็”Ÿๅ›žๆ•ฐใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบ ใ‚„ใ€้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ
29:10
watching and commenting, quite often, they will be talking about something that gets other people angry.
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่ฆ–่ดใ—ใ€ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใจใ€้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ไป–ใฎไบบใ‚’ๆ€’ใ‚‰ใ›ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
29:18
So one group will agree with it, another group will disagree with it. Yes.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฏใใ‚ŒใซๅŒๆ„ใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€ ๅˆฅใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฏใใ‚ŒใซๅŒๆ„ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
29:22
And then they will fight together on that particular channel or on that video,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎใƒใƒฃใƒณใƒใƒซใพใŸใฏใใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงไธ€็ท’ใซๆˆฆใ†ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
29:28
which means that video then will get many more views.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎๅ†็”Ÿๅ›žๆ•ฐใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
29:33
Yes, we get it, Mr. Duncan. No, I'm not saying you don't.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—
29:37
I'm not saying you don't, Steve.
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ใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚ ๆฏŽๆœˆใฎ YouTube ใฎๆšด่จ€
29:39
I'm just putting your it's your monthly YouTube rant, but it isn't a rant.
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ใ ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆšด่จ€ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
29:45
This is this.
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29:45
This is something that I've talked about in the past.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ“ใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚
ใ“ใ‚Œใฏไปฅๅ‰ใซใ‚‚่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
29:49
The only way you can get attention nowadays, because there are millions of people doing it.
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ไฝ•็™พไธ‡ไบบใ‚‚ใฎไบบใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ไปŠใงใฏๆณจ็›ฎใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€‚
29:56
So remember, do you remember Steve way back in 2006?
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่ฆšใˆใฆใŠใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€2006 ๅนดใฎใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
30:00
Because we are talking about memories today.
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30:04
I remember in 2006 what YouTube was like.
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2006 ๅนดๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฎ YouTube ใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
30:09
There were very few people on there or on here, very few people doing it.
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ใ‚ใฃใกใซใ‚‚ใ“ใฃใกใซใ‚‚ไบบใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ—ใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
30:15
I started teaching English. No one else was doing it.
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ไป–ใซ่ชฐใ‚‚ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
30:18
It was a very different environment.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚้•ใ†็’ฐๅขƒใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
30:21
But now, of course, we have probably 1.5 billion people
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30:26
using YouTube and millions and millions of videos
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YouTube ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ๆฏŽๆ—ฅไฝ•็™พไธ‡ใ‚‚ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใŒ
30:30
being uploaded to YouTube every single day.
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YouTube ใซใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
30:36
Not not every year, day.
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ๆฏŽๅนดใ€ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
30:39
That's incredible.
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ไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
30:41
And what I feel is,
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30:44
if you have to do more now to get attention, you have to be more outrageous.
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ๆณจ็›ฎใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไปŠใ‚‚ใฃใจใ‚„ใ‚‰ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใฎใชใ‚‰ใ€ ใ‚‚ใฃใจใจใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
30:50
You have to do things that are more dangerous.
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ใ‚‚ใฃใจๅฑ้™บใชใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
30:52
You have to explore topics that will get people arguing and fighting.
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ไบบใ€…ใŒ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใŸใ‚Šๅ–งๅ˜ฉใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ๆŽขๆฑ‚ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
30:58
In fact.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ€‚
30:59
And this, this is this is the big one, Steve.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒๅคงใใชๅ•้กŒใงใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
31:04
I was told by someone from YouTube who advised me
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YouTube ใฎๆ‹…ๅฝ“่€…ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€
31:11
how to get more people watching
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ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎไบบใซ่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ๆ–นๆณ•ใฏใ€
31:14
was to create division amongst my viewers.
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่ฆ–่ด่€…ใฎ้–“ใซๅˆ†่ฃ‚ใ‚’ใ‚‚ใŸใ‚‰ใ™ใ“ใจใ ใจใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
31:21
That was the advice that came to me from YouTube itself.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ YouTube ่‡ชไฝ“ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใซไธŽใˆใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
31:25
You need to create conflict on your channel
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ใƒใƒฃใƒณใƒใƒซไธŠใง็ซถๅˆใ‚’่ตทใ“ใ™ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ
31:30
because once you do that, it will never stop doing it.
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ใ€ไธ€ๅบฆใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใจๆฑบใ—ใฆใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใพใ‚‹ใง
31:34
It's like a machine that carries on working on its own.
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่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใงๅƒใ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ๆฉŸๆขฐใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
31:37
And that's what we don't do, Steve.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกใŒใ‚„ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
31:40
We don't come on here to create conflict amongst people.
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็งใŸใกใฏไบบใ€…ใฎ้–“ใซไบ‰ใ„ใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ™ใŸใ‚ใซใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใŸใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ่‹ฑ่ชžใ€ใคใพใ‚Š่‹ฑ่ชžใจใ„ใ†่จ€่ชžใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€
31:44
We try to get everyone agreeing and being friendly
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็งใŸใกใฏๅ…จๅ“กใฎๅŒๆ„ใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจๅŠชใ‚ใ€ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒณใƒ‰ใƒชใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ้‡่ฆ
31:49
is if we're talking about English, the English language.
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ใงใ™ใ€‚
31:52
So it's it's very difficult to create conflict because it's,
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31:57
you know, I can't argue with you over the pronunciation of a word, but that's not it's
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32:01
not going to really work because there is any really, you know, it's fairly fixed.
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32:08
It would seem a bit silly.
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32:09
We're not talking politics or religion so much as I'd love to, even though sometimes we do go down that road.
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ๆ”ฟๆฒปใ‚„ๅฎ—ๆ•™ใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ€็งใŒๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใปใฉ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ ใŒใ€ๆ™‚ใ€…ใใฎ้“ใ‚’ๆญฉใ‚€ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
32:16
Yes, to those subjects.
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32:18
But but that isn't what we do.
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32:20
So people don't know us for that thing.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ไบบใ€…ใฏใใฎใ“ใจใง็งใŸใกใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ YouTube ใงๅฏพ็ซ‹ใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ™ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใชไบบใจใ—ใฆใฎ
32:23
Where is lots of people who've established their brand on YouTube as being a person who likes to create conflict?
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32:33
They they will always get new viewers, won't they, Steve?
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅธธใซๆ–ฐใ—ใ„่ฆ–่ด่€…ใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–๏ผŸ
32:35
Because people want to go back to find out what people are on the way.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ ้€”ไธญใงไบบใ€…ใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซๆˆปใฃใฆ่กŒใใŸใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
32:40
But, you know, let's just do what we do.
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32:42
Yes. And, we've got lovely viewers here.
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32:45
That tune in every week.
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32:47
Tanya's here. Hello, Tanya.
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ใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ‹ใƒฃใŒใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ‹ใƒฃใ€‚
32:49
Yeah. Nice.
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32:49
Paolo Beatrice's here.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใƒ‹ใƒผใ‚นใ€‚
ใƒ‘ใ‚ชใƒญใƒปใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใŒๆฅใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
32:54
Pedro's here. Tania.
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32:56
Franco.
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32:58
Mauricio.
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33:00
Christine.
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33:01
how is Christina, by the way?
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
33:06
I think this is a different Christina.
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้•ใ†ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
33:07
Oh, is it good?
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33:08
Always remember, I always forget what Christina's name is on here.
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33:12
Just carry on, Steve. Yeah.
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33:15
Christina.
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33:16
Christina had Covid, so she did.
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33:20
And are you on today, Christina?
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33:24
And are you feeling better?
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33:26
Because, you know, we know you haven't been very well, and, it's coming back.
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ใ ใฃใฆใ€็งใŸใก ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ใพใ‚Š่‰ฏใใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ—ใ€ใพใŸ่ชฟๅญใŒๆˆปใ‚Šใคใคใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
33:31
You know, I know a lot of people that have are getting this new strain of Covid, and they're very ill with it.
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ใ”ๅญ˜็ŸฅใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ ใ“ใฎๆ–ฐๅž‹ใ‚ณใƒญใƒŠใ‚ฆใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใซๆ„ŸๆŸ“ใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€้žๅธธใซๅ…ทๅˆใŒๆ‚ชใ„ใฎใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
33:37
The, we all going to have to lock down again and stay in our houses.
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ๆˆ‘ใ€…ๅ…จๅ“กใŒๅ†ใณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใ—ใ€ๅฎถใซ็•™ใพใ‚‰ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
33:42
No, we are not. We won't we will resist.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏๆŠตๆŠ—ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
33:45
we will resist, those calls, to lockdown.
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็งใŸใกใฏใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใธใฎๅ‘ผใณใ‹ใ‘ใซๆŠตๆŠ—ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
33:51
I don't think anyone would obey that order.
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ใใฎๅ‘ฝไปคใซๅพ“ใ†ไบบใฏใ„ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
33:53
Well, I think that came back to government.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆ”ฟๅบœใซๆˆปใฃใฆใใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
33:55
I can tell you now, Steve, there is no way,
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ไปŠใ ใ‹ใ‚‰่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ไบŒๅบฆใจใ™ใ‚‹
33:59
no way I would ever, ever do that again.
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ใชใ‚“ใฆใ€็ตถๅฏพใซใ‚ใ‚Šใˆใชใ„ใ€‚
34:04
I don't think any government would dare do it now.
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ไปŠใชใ‚‰ใฉใฎๆ”ฟๅบœใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ†ใจใฏๆ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใ—ใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚’่ชฒใใ†ใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€
34:07
I think there would be riots, far bigger riots on the streets if they tried to impose lockdowns.
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ๆšดๅ‹•ใ€ใ‚‚ใฃใจๅคงใใชๆšดๅ‹•ใŒ่ทฏไธŠใง่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจๆ€ใ† ใ€‚
34:14
again.
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ใพใŸใ€‚
34:16
so anyway, we're not talking about that.
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ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
34:18
No, but it is.
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ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใงใ‚‚ใใ†ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
34:19
But, that's an interesting point, though, because it is interesting because that's what people are talking about.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏไบบใ€…ใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใชใฎใง่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„็‚นใงใ™ใ€‚
34:23
Christina had Covid.
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ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใ•ใ‚“ใฏๆ–ฐๅž‹ใ‚ณใƒญใƒŠใ‚ฆใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใซๆ„ŸๆŸ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ€‚
34:25
Fortunately, Christina is now in the clear
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ๅนธใ„ใชใ“ใจใซใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใฏ็พๅœจ็„กไบ‹ใงใ‚ใ‚Š
34:29
and that is always good news.
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅธธใซ่‰ฏใ„ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใงใ™ใ€‚
34:33
Pedro asked me, by the way, I don't remember last week or the week before.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ ๅ…ˆ้€ฑใ‚‚ๅ…ˆใ€…้€ฑใ‚‚่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ€ใจใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใŒๅฐ‹ใญใŸใ€‚
34:39
Pedro asked me if because we were talking about the services, weren't we?
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ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใฏ็งใซใ€ใ€Œ ใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ?ใ€ใจๅฐ‹ใญใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
34:44
And going into the, the, the services,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎใ€่ปๅ‹™ใซๅฐฑใใชใ‚‰ใ€
34:49
would I go into the Army, the Navy or the Air Force?
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้™ธ่ปใ€ๆตท่ปใ€็ฉบ่ปใฎใฉใ‚Œใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
34:53
I remember this question, Pedro, but we didn't have time.
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ใ“ใฎ่ณชๅ•ใฏ่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใ€ใงใ‚‚ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
34:56
I didn't have time to answer it.
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ใใ‚Œใซ็ญ”ใˆใ‚‹ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
34:58
last week, I think, you know, where do you think I would be?
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ๅ…ˆ้€ฑใ€็งใฏใฉใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
35:04
Better place, Mr. Duncan?
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ใ‚‚ใฃใจ่‰ฏใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“๏ผŸ
35:05
Surrounded by, don't say that.
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ๅ›ฒใพใ‚Œใฆใ€ใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใงใ€‚ ใ„ใคใ‚‚ๅใๆฐ—ใŒใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใง
35:09
so I would like to be at sea because I would feel queasy all the time. Yes.
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ๆตทใซใ„ใŸใ„ใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
35:14
I don't think I would want to be in the air flying either or either.
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ใฉใกใ‚‰ใซใ—ใฆใ‚‚็ฉบใ‚’้ฃ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใ„ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
35:20
So I think I would have to go in the Army.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰่ป้šŠใซ่กŒใ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใ€‚
35:23
because I think that's probably the only place that would suit me.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ“ใŒ ็งใซๅˆใ†ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
35:29
so Army is the answer to that.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰่ป้šŠใŒใใ‚Œใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹็ญ”ใˆใ ใ€‚
35:32
So, you see, I don't you ask me questions.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใซ่ณชๅ•ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
35:36
I might not be able to ask them at the time, but a week later I can answer them.
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ใใฎๅ ดใงใฏ่ณชๅ•ใงใใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€1้€ฑ้–“ๅพŒใซใฏ ็ญ”ใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
35:40
Yes. A.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ A.
35:43
Yes, sir.
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35:43
We have,
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใ€‚
35:45
Oh, yes.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
35:46
Christina born, works in a college, and many teachers have Covid.
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ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใฏ็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใ€ๅคงๅญฆใงๅƒใ„ใฆใŠใ‚Š ใ€ๅคšใใฎๆ•™ๅธซใŒใ‚ณใƒญใƒŠใ‚ฆใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใซๆ„ŸๆŸ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
35:51
Yeah, at the moment.
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ใฏใ„ใ€็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใ€‚
35:52
I went into a doctor's surgery the other day and they said, oh, no, you can't see the doctor.
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ๅ…ˆๆ—ฅใ€ๅค–็ง‘ใ‚’ๅ—่จบใ—ใพใ—ใŸ ใŒใ€ใ€Œใ„ใ‚„ใ€ๅŒป่€…ใซใฏ่จบใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
35:56
that he's got Covid.
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ๅฝผใŒCovidใซๆ„ŸๆŸ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ€‚
35:59
Okay, well, that's that's a pretty good reason for not seeing the doctor,
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏๅŒปๅธซใฎ่จบๅฏŸใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใชใ„ๅๅˆ†ใช็†็”ฑใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
36:03
because the doctor is supposed to do the opposite, not give you illnesses.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ๅŒปๅธซใฏใใฎ้€†ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ในใใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ็—…ๆฐ—ใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ในใใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
36:08
They're supposed to take your illness away.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎ็—…ๆฐ—ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใใฏใšใงใ™ใ€‚
36:11
So I can see.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
36:13
I can see where that that might be a problem if you are a doctor,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅŒปๅธซใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€
36:18
because you you want to make people better.
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ไบบใ€…ใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใใ—ใŸใ„ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ•้กŒใซใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
36:20
Not not worse memories, Mr.
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ๆ‚ชใ„ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“
36:23
Steve. Memories.
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ใ€‚ ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ€‚
36:25
Memories like the pages from my mind.
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ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใฏ็งใฎ้ ญใฎไธญใฎใƒšใƒผใ‚ธใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
36:31
All those deep and mystic memories of the way we were,
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็งใŸใกใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใฎๆทฑใใฆ็ฅž็ง˜็š„ใช่จ˜ๆ†ถใ€
36:38
that sort of thing.
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ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
36:40
Do you remember way back in 2007, Mr.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€2007 ๅนดใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹
36:43
Steve?
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?
36:44
We visited the place.
528
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็งใŸใกใฏใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่จชใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
36:46
In fact, we visited a place that we visited yesterday.
529
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ๅฎŸใฏๆ˜จๆ—ฅ่จชใ‚ŒใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ‚‚่กŒใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
36:49
Yesterday we went to a place where Mr.
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ๆ˜จๆ—ฅ็งใŸใกใฏใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใŒ่‚ฒใฃใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€
36:52
Steve or the area in which Mr.
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ใพใŸใฏ
36:55
Steve grew up as a young person. Yes.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใŒ่‹ฅใ„้ ƒใซ่‚ฒใฃใŸๅœฐๅŸŸใซ่กŒใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
37:00
But do you remember way back in 2007.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€2007 ๅนดใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
37:06
So we are going back around 17 years.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็ด„ 17 ๅนดๅ‰ใซ้กใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
37:12
We went to a place called Chipping Campden, a ward,
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็งใŸใกใฏใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใจใ„ใ†็—…ๆฃŸใซ่กŒใใพใ—ใŸใ€
37:16
and we were with well, we were with your parents, your mother and father.
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใŸใกใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไธก่ฆชใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠๆฏใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใŠ็ˆถใ•ใ‚“ใจไธ€็ท’ใซๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
37:21
Well, I have the video right now. Really.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ไปŠใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ€‚
37:25
I've made some edits to the video, but this is us.
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ๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—็ทจ้›†ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใงใ™ใ€‚
37:31
I'm not in the video, but Mr.
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็งใฏใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใซๆ˜ ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฏ
37:33
Steve is in the video.
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใซๆ˜ ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
37:35
And also your parents are in the video.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚ใชใŸใฎไธก่ฆชใ‚‚ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใซๅ‡บๆผ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
37:38
2007 way back in 2007.
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2007 ๅนดใ€ใฏใ‚‹ใ‹ๆ˜”ใฎ 2007 ๅนดใงใ™ใ€‚
37:42
I can't believe you found that.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใŸใชใ‚“ใฆไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
37:43
I didn't I didn't know you were going to show that today. Mr..
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ›ใ‚‹ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใ€
37:46
No. Well, here it is. We're going to have a look now.
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ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใพใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ“ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใงใฏใ€่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
37:49
So this is way, way, way, way 2007, in Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire, which is where I went to school.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€2007 ๅนดใ€ใ‚ฐใƒญใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผๅทžใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใงใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ ใ€‚ใใ“ใฏ็งใŒๅญฆๆ กใซ้€šใฃใฆใ„ใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
37:56
Yes, from the age of 11 to actually visited your school yesterday, didn't we?
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ใฏใ„ใ€ ็งใŸใกใฏ11ๆญณใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ˜จๆ—ฅใพใงๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅญฆๆ กใ‚’่จชใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
38:02
We did. I haven't been back there for probably 20 years.
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ใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใŠใใ‚‰ใ20ๅนดใใ‚‰ใ„ใใ“ใซใฏๆˆปใฃใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ€‚
38:08
So here we go.
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ใใ‚Œใงใฏใ€่กŒใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
38:09
This is way back in 2007.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ 2007 ๅนดใซ้กใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
38:13
And then a little bit later, we will look at a video that we filmed yesterday in the same place.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—ๅพŒใ€ ๆ˜จๆ—ฅๅŒใ˜ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ—ใŸใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
38:19
So first of all, casting our minds back to those early times, those early memories
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ใใ“ใงใพใš็ฌฌไธ€ใซใ€17 ๅนดๅ‰ใฎใ‚ใฎๅˆๆœŸใฎ้ ƒใฎ่จ˜ๆ†ถใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„
38:25
17 years ago.
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ใ€‚
40:23
Oh, Mr Steve, what do you think of that?
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฉใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
40:31
Buddy?
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40:31
Steve is now wiping his eyes.
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็›ธๆฃ’๏ผŸ
ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฏไปŠใ€็›ฎใ‚’ๆ‹ญใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
40:35
Tears of Steve Shearer?
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใƒปใ‚ทใ‚ขใƒฉใƒผใฎๆถ™๏ผŸ
40:37
Yes. God, didn't I look young then?
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ็ฅžๆง˜ใ€ใใฎๆ™‚็งใฏ่‹ฅใ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
40:40
You haven't changed a bit.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅฐ‘ใ—ใ‚‚ๅค‰ใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
40:42
Yeah. No, dear, that's quite frightening.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
40:44
So that was. That was.
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ใใ†ใ ใฃใŸใ‚“ใ ใ€‚ ใใ†ใ ใฃใŸใ€‚
40:46
I suppose I should just explain.
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่ชฌๆ˜Žใ ใ‘ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
40:48
That was way back in 2007, and we were in a place called Chipping Camden,
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ใใ‚Œใฏใšใฃใจๅ‰ใฎ2007ๅนดใงใ€ ็งใŸใกใฏใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใจใ„ใ†ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ„ใฆใ€
40:54
and we were actually there with your parents walking around.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ”ไธก่ฆชใจไธ€็ท’ใซใใ“ใ‚’ๆญฉใๅ›žใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
40:58
And I remember we, we just being to have a look at a new car or a second
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใŒ ๆ–ฐ่ปŠใ‚„
41:04
hand car, a used car that your mum wanted to drive around it.
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ไธญๅค่ปŠใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠๆฏใ•ใ‚“ใŒไน—ใ‚ŠใŸใŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸไธญๅค่ปŠใ‚’ใŸใ ่ฆ‹ใซ่กŒใฃใŸใฎใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
41:09
And I remember that day very clearly.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎๆ—ฅใฎใ“ใจใฏใฏใฃใใ‚Šใจ่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
41:11
Lots of strange things happened on that day, didn't it?
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ใใฎๆ—ฅใฏไธๆ€่ญฐใชใ“ใจใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใญใ€‚
41:14
Because all of those sports cars came by
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใ‚ซใƒผใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๆฅใฆ
41:18
and we saw yesterday some old car as well.
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ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅใฏๅคใ„่ปŠใ‚‚่ฆ‹ใ‹ใ‘ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
41:24
So wasn't that strange?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
41:25
So there was almost a very strange similarity
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
41:30
between what happened yesterday and what we saw in that video.
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ๆ˜จๆ—ฅ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ“ใจใจ็งใŸใกใŒใใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใง่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใฎ้–“ใซใฏใ€ใปใจใ‚“ใฉ้žๅธธใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใช้กžไผผ็‚นใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
41:34
Yes, that's a Chipping Campden.
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ใใ†ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใงใ™ใ€‚
41:36
Yes. it's not Camden in, London.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใƒญใƒณใƒ‰ใƒณใฎใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
41:40
No, it's a separate place in the Cotswolds, which is a very beautiful
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ“ใ“ใฏใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใซใ‚ใ‚‹ๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใฏ
41:46
part of the UK, sort of in the centre of the UK.
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่‹ฑๅ›ฝใฎไธญๅฟƒ้ƒจใซไฝ็ฝฎใ™ใ‚‹ใ€่‹ฑๅ›ฝใฎ้žๅธธใซ็พŽใ—ใ„ๅœฐๅŸŸใงใ™ใ€‚
41:50
So the South central central area, where I grew up in and I went to school
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ตใ‚ฆใ‚นใƒปใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใƒฉใƒซใƒปใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใƒฉใƒซใƒปใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใ€็งใฏใ“ใฎ็”บใง่‚ฒใกใ€ ๅญฆๆ กใซ้€šใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
41:55
in this particular town, and yes.
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ใ€ใใ—ใฆใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
41:59
nice.
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ใƒ‹ใƒผใ‚นใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚Œใฏ
42:01
So that was 2007.
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2007 ๅนดใฎใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:02
You had just come back from China that.
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ใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉไธญๅ›ฝใ‹ใ‚‰ๅธฐใฃใฆใใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ—ใŸใญใ€‚
42:05
Yes, that was that was the same year I came back from China.
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ใใ†ใ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒไธญๅ›ฝใ‹ใ‚‰ๅธฐๅ›ฝใ—ใŸๅนดใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:08
And a lot of things were happening in your parents life because they were planning to move
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไธก่ฆชใฏๅผ•ใฃ่ถŠใ—ใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใฆใ„ใฆ
42:14
and all sorts of things were going on. It was a very busy year.
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ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹็จฎ้กžใฎใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใŸใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไธก่ฆชใฎ็”Ÿๆดปใซใฏๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฟ™ใ—ใ„ไธ€ๅนดใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:17
I always remember 2007 as being this roller coaster ride.
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2007 ๅนดใฏใพใ•ใซใ‚ธใ‚งใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ณใƒผใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅนดใ ใฃใŸใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ„ใคใ‚‚่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
42:22
It was it was actually quite, a traumatic year.
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ใใ‚ŒใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Šใ€ใƒˆใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒž็š„ใชๅนดใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:26
So I, I'd come back from China.
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ใใ‚Œใง็งใฏไธญๅ›ฝใ‹ใ‚‰ๅธฐใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:28
We were together again, which was a nice thing.
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ใพใŸไธ€็ท’ใซใชใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‰ฏใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚ ไป–ใซ
42:33
And we had lots of other things we were planning as well.
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ใ‚‚ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:38
And also we were helping your parents, they were moving house and they had to, to do all sorts of things.
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ใพใŸใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ”ไธก่ฆชใ‚‚ๅผ•ใฃ่ถŠใ—ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใง ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹็จฎ้กžใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใฎใ‚’ๆ‰‹ไผใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:44
Lots of things were changing.
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42:45
So it is interesting when you see that 17 years ago. Yes.
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17ๅนดๅ‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใจ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
42:50
And of course, the other thing that's interesting is seeing how
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใค ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใฎใฏใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฎๅ“่ณชใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™
42:55
the quality of the video, because it's not very good quality, it's very fuzzy.
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ใ€‚ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฎ ๅ“่ณชใŒใ‚ใพใ‚Š่‰ฏใใชใ„ใŸใ‚ใ€้žๅธธใซไธ้ฎฎๆ˜Žใงใ™ใ€‚
43:00
And the, the, the it's not very steady.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ€ใ€ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅฎ‰ๅฎšใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
43:04
It looks as if I'm jumping around whilst I'm filming it.
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ๆ’ฎๅฝฑไธญใซ้ฃ›ใณ่ทณใญใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
43:07
But that's because in 2007, camera technology was still in its early stages.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใใ‚Œใฏใ€2007 ๅนดๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใ€ ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉๆŠ€่ก“ใฏใพใ ๅˆๆœŸๆฎต้šŽใซใ‚ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
43:14
Isn't that incredible?
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ใใ‚Œใฏไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ 2007 ๅนดๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใ€
43:17
Digital cameras were still not very good at recording quality video
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ใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซ ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใฏใพใ ้ซ˜ๅ“่ณชใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’่จ˜้Œฒใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅ„ชใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ
43:23
in 2007, and a lot of people forget that.
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ใŒใ€ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
43:28
So we all take it for granted that we can just pick up our phone
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ็š†ใ€
43:33
and film things nowadays without without even worrying about it.
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ไปŠใงใฏ ไฝ•ใ‚‚ๆฐ—ใซใ›ใšใซๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ–ใ‚Šใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆ’ฎๅฝฑใงใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฝ“็„ถใฎใ“ใจใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
43:38
But but way back in 2007, it was incredibly
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€2007 ๅนดๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใ€
43:42
hard to film something with good quality because that is as well
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่ณชใฎ้ซ˜ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใปใฉๅ›ฐ้›ฃใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็ˆถใฎ
43:48
the only, moving picture, the only video that we have of my father.
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ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๅ‹•็”ปใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ็งใŸใกใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
43:55
And because he didn't like
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43:58
my parents at the time, they didn't like Mr.
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ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใ€ๅฝผใฏ็งใฎไธก่ฆชใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐใฎๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ‚’ๅซŒใŒใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ
44:02
Duncan filming.
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44:03
They weren't comfortable with it.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚Œใซๆบ€่ถณใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
44:04
But your mother never did know.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠๆฏใ•ใ‚“ใฏๆฑบใ—ใฆ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
44:07
My mum never liked having her picture taken.
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็งใฎๆฏใฏๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
44:09
But that's literally the only video record of my father.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใ€็ˆถใฎๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช่จ˜้Œฒใงใ™ใ€‚
44:15
Yeah. Got pictures. But.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๅ…ฅๆ‰‹ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€‚
44:16
And it was, you know, you took that.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
44:19
And, I mean, it's not very much, really, but it's something,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไฝ•ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
44:23
I don't have any other videos because I didn't like to do that.
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ไป–ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
44:27
And and this this brings me on to another point, Steve.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใฎ็‚นใซใคใชใŒใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚ ้€šๅธธใ€
44:31
You don't realise how important those moments are,
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44:35
because usually they don't seem important at the time.
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ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ็žฌ้–“ใŒใฉใ‚Œใปใฉ้‡่ฆใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
44:39
But now we can watch that.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ไปŠใ€็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
44:42
And there you are, walking with your mother and father through the streets of Chipping Campden.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใŠ็ˆถใ•ใ‚“ ใจใŠๆฏใ•ใ‚“ใจไธ€็ท’ใซใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ‚’ๆญฉใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
44:47
It's there in front of you and you can see it actually happening.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็›ฎใฎๅ‰ใซใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
44:52
But that was just a very brief, simple moment of time.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใปใ‚“ใฎ็Ÿญใ„ใ€ๅ˜็ด”ใชๆ™‚้–“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
44:56
And now it's incredibly precious.
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠใงใฏไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใปใฉ่ฒด้‡ใชใ‚‚ใฎใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
45:00
And that brings me back to what I said earlier about if you can wake up in the morning
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๅ…ˆใปใฉ่จ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใซๆˆปใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ๆœ่ตทใใฆ
45:05
and you are alive and you can feel everything around you, that's it.
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ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใฆ ใ€ๅ‘จใ‚Šใฎใ™ในใฆใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚Œใฐใ€ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
45:11
That's the moment.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใงใ™ใ€‚
45:12
That's the most important moment that you have, is that moment
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซใจใฃใฆๆœ€ใ‚‚้‡่ฆใช็žฌ้–“ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
45:16
that you're in at that very time it is.
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ใพใ•ใซใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใงใ™ใ€‚
45:20
And so video that's why I like recording things.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒ็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’่จ˜้Œฒใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใช็†็”ฑใฏใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงใ™ใ€‚
45:23
That's why I like taking pictures.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
45:26
It annoys Mr. Steve so much.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ‚’ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆ‚ฉใพใ›ใพใ™ใ€‚
45:28
But I always feel it's an important thing.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅคงๅˆ‡ใชใ“ใจใ ใจใ„ใคใ‚‚ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
45:32
In fact when I was recording that and I bet you don't remember this, Steve,
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€็งใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’้Œฒ้Ÿณใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจใ ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
45:39
but you were you were annoyed that I was doing it.
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ใŒใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ็งใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
45:42
Your dad was annoyed that I was doing it. Yes. But now
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠ็ˆถใ•ใ‚“ใฏ็งใŒใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ไปŠใ€
45:47
we have the record.
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็งใŸใกใฏ่จ˜้Œฒใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
45:48
We have that moment.
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็งใŸใกใซใฏใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
45:49
I was annoyed because I knew it was annoy my parents,
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ไธก่ฆชใ‚’ๅ›ฐใ‚‰ใ›ใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
45:53
but it just shows. And it's funny, actually.
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ใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏใŸใ ใฎ็พใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ้ข็™ฝใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
45:55
And thank you.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚
45:56
Faribault, g h rest in peace, your mother and father.
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ใƒ•ใ‚กใƒชใƒœใƒผใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใŠ็ˆถใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใŠๆฏใ•ใ‚“ใ€ๅฎ‰ใ‚‰ใ‹ใซใŠ็œ ใ‚Šใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
46:03
Thank you for that comment. I appreciate that.
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ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
46:07
and, but but I remember where we used to
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ€
46:10
where I was brought up from the age of seven, where we used to live.
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็งใŒ7ๆญณใ‹ใ‚‰่‚ฒใฃใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€ ไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
46:16
the house is gone now. It was demolished. Yes.
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ใใฎๅฎถใฏใ‚‚ใ†ใชใใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ€‚ ๅ–ใ‚ŠๅฃŠใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
46:18
And they built a new housing estate there. Where?
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ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ“ใซๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ไฝๅฎ…ๅ›ฃๅœฐใ‚’ๅปบใฆใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฉใ“๏ผŸ
46:21
Where I was brought up in and
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็งใŒ่‚ฒใฃใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ€
46:25
a few days or a week before my parents were moving out,
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ไธก่ฆชใŒๅผ•ใฃ่ถŠใ—ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ๆ•ฐๆ—ฅใ‹ไธ€้€ฑ้–“ๅ‰ใซใ€
46:29
Duncan said, oh, it came round with his camera and said, what shall I film?
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใฏใ“ใ†่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ‚„ใฃใฆๆฅใฆใ€ ไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚ใ†ใ‹ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ่†œ
46:33
Film? The house and my father wouldn't let you do it? No.
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๏ผŸ ๅฎถใ‚‚็ˆถใ‚‚ใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใ•ใ›ใฆใใ‚Œใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใฏ๏ผŸ
46:36
So I actually have no record to it of the house, but I did film it secret.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใใฎๅฎถใฎ่จ˜้Œฒใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็ง˜ๅฏ†ใงๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
46:43
Did you?
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ใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
46:44
Oh, I came, I came round and I filmed the outside of the house.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ๆฅใพใ—ใŸใ€ๆฅใฆใ€ๅฎถใฎๅค–ใ‚’ๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
46:48
And there are some shots of your mum and dad together talking, and I can't find the, the video.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠๆฏใ•ใ‚“ใจใŠ็ˆถใ•ใ‚“ใŒไธ€็ท’ใซ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒˆใŒใ„ใใคใ‹ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ ใใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฏ่ฆ‹ใคใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
46:56
Right. So.
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46:56
So it's those videos are buried away in my archives, but
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ๅณใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚
ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฏ็งใฎใ‚ขใƒผใ‚ซใ‚คใƒ–ใซๅŸ‹ใ‚‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
47:00
I'm going to try and find them for next Sunday.
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ๆฌกใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใซๆŽขใ—ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
47:05
But there are lots of video clips of the house you lived in, Steve, as a child.
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ใงใ‚‚ ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅญไพ›ใฎ้ ƒใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸๅฎถใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใƒ—ใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
47:10
It's gone now.
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ไปŠใฏใ‚‚ใ†ใชใใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ€‚
47:11
It's been demolished. Demolished?
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ๅ–ใ‚ŠๅฃŠใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅ–ใ‚ŠๅฃŠใ•ใ‚ŒใŸ๏ผŸ
47:13
We went there yesterday to see what it now looks like.
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็งใŸใกใฏๆ˜จๆ—ฅใใ“ใซ่กŒใฃใฆใ€ไปŠใŒใฉใ†ใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
47:16
I haven't been back there for 2020 years.
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2020ๅนดใฏใ‚‚ใ†ใใ“ใซใฏๆˆปใฃใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ€‚
47:19
Strangely enough, I didn't feel.
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ไธๆ€่ญฐใชใ“ใจใซใ€็งใฏใใ†ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
47:21
I thought I was going to feel sort of a bit of an emotion, a bit upset, but I didn't, so I was quite pleased about that.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆ„Ÿๆƒ…็š„ใซใชใฃใฆใ€ ๅฐ‘ใ—ๅ‹•ๆบใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใใ†ใงใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏ้žๅธธใซๆบ€่ถณใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
47:26
So the thing is, you didn't even recognise the area because it's all new houses, so you can't even see gone.
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ๅ•้กŒใฏใ€ ใใ“ใŒใ™ในใฆๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅฎถใชใฎใงใ€ใชใใชใฃใŸใ“ใจใ•ใˆ่ฆ‹ใˆใชใ„ใŸใ‚ใ€ใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใ•ใˆ่ช่ญ˜ใงใใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
47:35
You can't even see where the house was or any, any fragment of the house.
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ๅฎถใŒใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใ€ ๅฎถใฎ็ ด็‰‡ใ™ใ‚‰่ฆ‹ๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
47:41
So that video that I made, those videos that I recorded
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็งใŒไฝœใฃใŸใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ€
47:46
all those years ago are now very precious because you can actually relive those moments.
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ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚ๅ‰ใซ้Œฒ็”ปใ—ใŸใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฏใ€ไปŠใงใฏ ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใ‚’่ฟฝไฝ“้จ“ใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚่ฒด้‡ใชใ‚‚ใฎใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
47:52
You can see the house, you can see inside the house. Yeah.
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ๅฎถใŒ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใ€ๅฎถใฎไธญใ‚‚่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
47:55
By the way, your dad wouldn't let me go upstairs.
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ใกใชใฟใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠ็ˆถใ•ใ‚“ใฏ็งใ‚’ไบŒ้šŽใซ่กŒใ‹ใ›ใฆใใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
47:58
No, I wanted to film.
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ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ๆ’ฎใ‚ŠใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
48:00
It was a bit funny.
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ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ้ข็™ฝใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
48:01
Like I wanted to film your your bedroom as it was.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅฏๅฎคใ‚’ใ‚ใ‚Šใฎใพใพใซๆ’ฎใ‚ŠใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใจๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใ€‚
48:04
So I wanted to film you where you used to spend your time, but your dad wouldn't let me.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ„ใคใ‚‚้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚ŠใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ ใŒใ€ใŠ็ˆถใ•ใ‚“ใŒ่จฑใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
48:10
So he said, you can't go upstairs. Okay, then. No problem.
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ใใ“ใงๅฝผใฏใ€ใ€ŒไบŒ้šŽใซไธŠใŒใฃใฆใฏใ„ใ‘ใชใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ•ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใงใฏใ€‚ ๅ•้กŒใชใ„ใ€‚
48:14
It's not.
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ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
48:15
I don't lose out. But you won't have those. You won't have those.
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่ฒ ใ‘ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‚ˆใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใซใฏใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
48:19
I don't have those memories that I might have.
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็งใซใฏใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„่จ˜ๆ†ถใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
48:21
I don't think I've got any pictures of my bedroom.
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ๅฏๅฎคใฎๅ†™็œŸใฏ็„กใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
48:23
But anyway, we do have a lot of video clips of your house as it was before it was demolished.
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ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ๅ–ใ‚ŠๅฃŠใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ‰ใฎใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅฎถใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใƒ—ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
48:29
I've got a lot from when I was a child.
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ๅญไพ›ใฎ้ ƒใ‹ใ‚‰ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
48:31
Yes, I have to take loads of pictures. But not video.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๆ’ฎใ‚‰ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใŸใ ใ—ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
48:34
But not video. There's certainly no video. No, no.
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ใŸใ ใ—ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็ขบใ‹ใซๅ‹•็”ปใฏ็„กใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€‚
48:37
So again, that's why it's so important to to to have these little memories
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็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใใ€
48:42
when you take a photograph or a video you are literally capturing time. Yes.
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ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่จ˜้Œฒใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ†™็œŸใ‚„ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚‹ใจใใซใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅฐใ•ใชๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ™ใ“ใจใŒ้žๅธธใซ้‡่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
48:48
And you can look back. Yes.
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ใใ—ใฆๆŒฏใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
48:50
And you can relive those moments and they can be happy times.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใ‚’่ฟฝไฝ“้จ“ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€ๅนธใ›ใชๆ™‚้–“ใซใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
48:55
They can be sad times, especially if you if you watch maybe a video,
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็‰นใซใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ใ„ใชใ„ๅฎถๆ—ใ‚„ไธก่ฆชใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ๆ‚ฒใ—ใ„ๆ™‚ใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
49:00
of a family member, maybe one of your parents who is no longer around, and I do.
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็งใ‚‚ใใ†ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
49:06
I have videos of my mum,
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ๆฏใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใŒใ‚ใ‚‹
49:09
so I have videos.
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ใฎใงใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
49:10
I'm very lucky.
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็งใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๅนธ้‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
49:11
I have videos of my mother and I can hear her talking and she's alive and she's in the videos.
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็งใฏๆฏใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใใ—ใฆๆฏใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใŒ่žใ“ใˆใพใ™ใ€ ใใ—ใฆๅฝผๅฅณใฏ็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใฆใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฎไธญใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
49:17
She's still there and it's amazing.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใพใ ใใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
49:19
You can actually still almost reach out and touch that person.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใพใ ๆ‰‹ใ‚’ไผธใฐใ—ใฆใใฎไบบใซ่งฆใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
49:24
You can you can almost hug them.
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ใปใจใ‚“ใฉๆŠฑใใ—ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
49:27
I scream, I still find that very odd that
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็งใฏๅซใณใพใ™ใ€
49:31
when celebrities die, singers, actors,
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ๆญŒๆ‰‹ใ‚„ไฟณๅ„ชใชใฉใฎๆœ‰ๅไบบใŒไบกใใชใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€
49:35
that they are still available to see as they were, in,
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฎๅงฟใ‚’ใพใ ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใŒ้žๅธธใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ใ€
49:41
you know, in, in a video, I still find that
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็งใฏไปŠใงใ‚‚
49:45
almost I can't almost comprehend when I see them why they're not still there.
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ใปใจใ‚“ใฉ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ใชใœๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใพใ ใใ“ใซใ„ใชใ„ใฎใ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
49:52
It's like when I look at a picture of my mother.
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ๆฏใฎๅ†™็œŸใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
49:54
Well there she is. There's a picture.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅ†™็œŸใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
49:57
Why isn't she still here.
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ใชใœๅฝผๅฅณใฏใพใ ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
49:58
And it's the same with people that die.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏๆญปใฌไบบใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใ€‚
50:01
Celebrities when you it's, it's I don't know I don't quite understand I know it's
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ใ‚ปใƒฌใƒ–ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ ใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€
50:05
physically it's all it's on you know, it's, it's a digital or whatever.
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็‰ฉ็†็š„ใซใใ‚ŒใŒใ™ในใฆใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
50:11
light has captured that image.
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ๅ…‰ใŒใใฎใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ๆ‰ใˆใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
50:13
I understand all that, but.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ในใฆ็†่งฃใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ€‚
50:15
But to see them still moving around, talking actors in films.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใพใ ๅ‹•ใๅ›žใ‚Šใ€ๆ˜ ็”ปใฎไธญใงไฟณๅ„ชใจ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใจใ€‚
50:22
But they're not here.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ“ใ“ใซใฏใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
50:23
It's a very odd thing for your brain to comprehend.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่„ณใŒ็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ้žๅธธใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
50:27
And of course, up until
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
50:30
relatively recently, in terms of history of human beings, it's
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ๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใพใงใ€ไบบ้กžใฎๆญดๅฒใ‹ใ‚‰่จ€ใˆใฐใ€
50:34
only in the last sort of 150 years or so that we've been able to capture images of people.
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ไบบ้–“ใฎ็”ปๅƒใ‚’ๆ’ฎๅฝฑใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใฃใŸใฎใฏใ“ใ“ 150 ๅนดใปใฉใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
50:42
so before then, that was it.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใพใงใฏใใ‚Œใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
50:45
You only had your memory? Yeah, of that person.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ่จ˜ๆ†ถใ—ใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎ๏ผŸ ใใ†ใ€ใ‚ใฎไบบใฎใ“ใจใ€‚
50:48
But if there was, you know, there if you were rich, lived in a rich family, somebody might have painted you.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใใ“ใซใ‚ใฃใŸใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ้‡‘ๆŒใกใงใ€ ่ฃ•็ฆใชๅฎถๅบญใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€่ชฐใ‹ใŒใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
50:54
So for the vast majority of the population, there was no access
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ไบบๅฃใฎๅคงๅคšๆ•ฐใซใจใฃใฆใฏใ€
50:58
to images of people that had died yet.
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ใพใ ไบกใใชใฃใŸไบบใฎ็”ปๅƒใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
51:03
So but even photographs.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใงใ‚‚ๅ†™็œŸใงใ‚‚ใ€‚
51:05
And that's the other thing that I still find fascinating.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒไปŠใงใ‚‚้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใคใฎ็‚นใงใ™ใ€‚
51:07
Even photographs.
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ๅ†™็œŸใ•ใˆใ‚‚ใ€‚
51:10
We we
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51:10
assume that photographs were around for a very, very, very long time.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ€
ๅ†™็œŸใŒ้žๅธธใซ้•ทใ„้–“ๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
51:15
The, the, the ability to take a photograph.
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ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚‹่ƒฝๅŠ›ใ€‚
51:17
But it is still a recent thing in the development of, of humanity.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไบบ้กžใฎ็™บๅฑ•ใซใŠใ„ใฆใฏใพใ ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ ใ€‚
51:24
Photography is just is just a couple of steps back.
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ๅ†™็œŸใฏใปใ‚“ใฎๆ•ฐๆญฉๅพŒ้€€ใ—ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
51:27
It's it's not even something that is being established.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็ขบ็ซ‹ใ•ใ‚Œใคใคใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
51:30
It is very recent driving cars, flying aeroplanes, all of this stuff
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่ปŠใ‚’้‹่ปขใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใ‚’้ฃ›ใฐใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใฏ
51:38
is relatively new.
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ๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
51:40
So I think every time this type of technology changes, Steve, I think it does
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใฎ็จฎใฎใƒ†ใ‚ฏใƒŽใƒญใ‚ธใƒผใŒๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใณใซใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏ
51:45
change us in a way, because now we can relive things in almost,
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใง็งใŸใกใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ไปŠใงใฏ็งใŸใกใฏ็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใ€
51:52
well, it's it's almost creepy how how realistic
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ใพใ‚ใ€็งใŸใกใŒใฉใ‚Œใปใฉ็พๅฎŸ็š„ใงใ€ใฉใ‚Œใปใฉ็พๅฎŸ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’่ฟฝไฝ“้จ“ใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ€ใปใจใ‚“ใฉไธๆฐ—ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ€‚
51:58
and how how real everything is that we are playing back.
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ๅ†็”Ÿไธญใ€‚
52:02
So imagine in 50 years when people have 4K
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50 ๅนดๅพŒใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒไธก่ฆชใฎ 4K ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใฆ
52:07
video of their parents and they can watch it on a huge screen,
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅทจๅคงใชใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒผใƒณใง่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€
52:12
and you have this amazing quality of that person talking to you, and yet they are no longer alive.
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ใใฎไบบใŒ ใ‚ใชใŸใซ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๅ“่ณชใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใซใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚‚ใ†็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
52:18
But the image will be so realistic.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใฎใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใฏ้žๅธธใซใƒชใ‚ขใƒซใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
52:21
It will be almost as if they're they're standing there in front of you.
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ใพใ‚‹ใง็›ฎใฎๅ‰ใซๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ็ซ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ ใ€‚
52:25
probably would be able to recreate it in some kind of hologram.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎใƒ›ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใงใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ†็พใงใใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
52:28
Of course, you won't be able to interact with them, but, yes.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใจๅฏพ่ฉฑใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใฏใ„ใ€‚
52:33
Is it a good thing that you can look back, or is it better that, you just remember them in your mind?
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ๆŒฏใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใชใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚้ ญใฎไธญใง่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใฎใปใ†ใŒ่‰ฏใ„ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
52:39
Because that's how we
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
52:41
used to just remember people.
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ใ‹ใคใฆใใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆไบบใ€…ใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
52:43
Just memories.
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ใŸใ ใฎๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ€‚
52:45
That's what we had.
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52:45
We didn't have any physical. We didn't have a photograph, a video.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใซใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
็งใŸใกใซใฏ็‰ฉ็†็š„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅ†™็œŸใ‚‚ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
52:49
Which is why writing was so important, which is why stories were so important.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใๆ›ธใใ“ใจใŒ้žๅธธใซ้‡่ฆใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใŒ้žๅธธใซ้‡่ฆใงใ‚ใ‚‹็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
52:54
Yeah.
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52:54
That's why when you write things down, that was the only way of recording anything,
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่จ˜้Œฒใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ ใ€
52:58
drawing something, painting a picture or a portrait of a person.
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆใใจใใ€ ็ตตใ‚„ไบบ็‰ฉใฎ่‚–ๅƒ็”ปใ‚’ๆใใจใใ€โ€‹โ€‹ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
53:04
That's the only way you would ever know what that person looked like.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใใฎไบบใฎๅค–่ฆ‹ใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™ ใ€‚
53:08
So we only know how.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€็งใŸใกใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
53:09
Watch what William Shakespeare looked like.
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ใ‚ฆใ‚ฃใƒชใ‚ขใƒ ใƒปใ‚ทใ‚งใ‚คใ‚ฏใ‚นใƒ”ใ‚ขใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
53:12
We don't have his photograph, but we do have portraits
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็งใŸใกใฏๅฝผใฎๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
53:16
that were painted or sketches that were made of these notable people.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ่‘—ๅใชไบบใ€…ใ‚’ๆใ„ใŸ่‚–ๅƒ็”ปใ‚„ใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
53:22
And of course, when we go back even further in history, Steve, we have sculptures.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๆญดๅฒใ‚’้กใ‚‹ใจใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ ๅฝซๅˆปใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
53:26
We have busts of of people from, from some way back in time.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ™‚ไปฃใซ้กใฃใฆใ€ไบบใ€…ใฎ่ƒธๅƒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
53:34
It's interesting you were rich and famous at the time.
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่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใ“ใจใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅฝ“ๆ™‚่ฃ•็ฆใงๆœ‰ๅใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
53:37
Yeah.
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53:38
It's or you're a leader or something.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใƒชใƒผใƒ€ใƒผใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
53:41
You might get a bust made of yourself out of marble.
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ๅคง็†็Ÿณใง่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ่ƒธๅƒใ‚’ไฝœใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
53:45
or you might have.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
53:47
If you're a member of the aristocracy, you or a great leader, you might have your painting, done.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ฒดๆ—้šŽ็ดšใฎไธ€ๅ“กใ€ใพใŸใฏๅ‰ๅคงใชๆŒ‡ๅฐŽ่€…ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็ตตใ‚’ๅฎŒๆˆใ•ใ›ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
53:54
But of course, that takes hours and hours and hours.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใซใฏไฝ•ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚‚ไฝ•ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
53:57
Yeah.
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53:57
It's, it's amazing to think you can take a picture of somebody now in seconds.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ ไปŠใ€ๆ•ฐ็ง’ใง่ชฐใ‹ใฎๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใฎใฏ้ฉšใในใใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
54:02
And there it is.
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54:02
Yeah, but anyway. Yes, but that is what that is, it isn't it?
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
ใˆใˆใ€ใงใ‚‚ใจใซใ‹ใใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€ใงใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใฏใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
54:06
We we take it for granted that we can just take pictures and that they're then stored away somewhere.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ€ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใง ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใฉใ“ใ‹ใซไฟ็ฎกใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฝ“็„ถใฎใ“ใจใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
54:13
And maybe, maybe, maybe we don't look at them for maybe five, ten, 15 years.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ ใŠใใ‚‰ใ5ๅนดใ€10ๅนดใ€15ๅนดใใ‚‰ใ„ใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆ‹ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
54:19
And then one day you will go into that file and suddenly all of those pictures will be there.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ—ฅใ€ใใฎใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚คใƒซใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ™ใ‚‹ใจ ใ€็ช็„ถใ™ในใฆใฎๅ†™็œŸใŒใใ“ใซๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
54:25
And the most fascinating thing, of course, is when you see yourself
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆœ€ใ‚‚้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใชใฎใฏใ€ๅคใ„ๅ†™็œŸใง่‡ชๅˆ† ่‡ช่บซใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใจใ
54:29
in older
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54:30
photographs, that is the one that is the big one is when you see yourself
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ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚ŒใŒ ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๅคงใใชใ‚‚ใฎใฏใ€
54:37
projected in front of you, an image of yourself
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็›ฎใฎๅ‰ใซ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใŒๆŠ•ๅฝฑใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใจใใงใ™ใ€‚ๆ˜”ใฎ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใง
54:40
as you were and you said, Just Steve, you look so young in that video.
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ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ“ใ†่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ ใใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงใฏใจใฆใ‚‚่‹ฅใ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใญใ€‚
54:45
Yes. Nobody said that. I.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ่ชฐใ‚‚ใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ I.
54:47
I'm very disappointed in the live chat.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใซใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใŒใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
54:49
Nobody said Mr.
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่ชฐใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“
54:50
Steve, you look exactly the same now as you did 17 years ago, and I'm very disappointed in you,
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ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ 17 ๅนดๅ‰ใจไปŠใ‚‚ใพใฃใŸใๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใ€ใจใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใใ‚Œใซใฏ็†็”ฑใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ ใ€็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใซใจใฆใ‚‚ๅคฑๆœ›ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™
54:56
although there might be a reason for that.
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ใ€‚
54:58
I did actually that here's, here's something funny.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ‚„ใฃใฆใฟใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้ข็™ฝใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
55:01
I was seeing a customer the other day, and the guy lying about my age as a joke.
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ๅ…ˆๆ—ฅใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹้กงๅฎขใซไผšใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ ใŒใ€ใใฎ็”ทๆ€งใฏๅ†—่ซ‡ใง็งใฎๅนด้ฝขใซใคใ„ใฆๅ˜˜ใ‚’ใคใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
55:07
I said I was born in 1986 of 86.
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็งใฏ 86 ๅนดใฎ 1986 ๅนด็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใ ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
55:12
So this.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ“ใ‚Œใงใ™ใ€‚
55:13
And she laughed and of course, I laughed because it was a joke.
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ใใ—ใฆๅฝผๅฅณใฏ็ฌ‘ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅ†—่ซ‡ใ ใฃใŸใฎใง็งใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
55:16
But she said, blimey, if you were born in 1986, you must have led a rough life.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ€ใฒใฉใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใŒใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ 1986 ๅนด็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใฃใจ ๅคงๅค‰ใชไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’้€ใฃใฆใใŸใซ้•ใ„ใชใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
55:23
In other words, she was saying, wow,
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่จ€ใ„ๆ›ใˆใ‚Œใฐใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ“ใ†่จ€ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€Œ
55:25
you've aged badly if you were born in 1986.
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1986 ๅนด็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใ ใจใ€ใ‹ใชใ‚Š่€ใ‘ใŸใญใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
55:30
So yes, I'm having not having, much luck at the moment with that.
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏ็งใซใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Š้‹ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
55:35
People saying I look younger than my age.
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็งใฏๅนด้ฝขใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‹ฅใ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
55:37
of course you can't get away with it forever, can you? That's true.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆฐธ้ ใซใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰้€ƒใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใ ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใ ใ€‚
55:41
I've. I heard about the scientist Academy.
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55:43
Yes, I have Pedro. Sorry.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใ€‚
55:45
the Sandhurst Academy.
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ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใƒใƒผใ‚นใƒˆใ‚ขใ‚ซใƒ‡ใƒŸใƒผใ€‚
55:48
Yes, I have heard of it.
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ใฏใ„ใ€่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
55:49
You've got to be sort of quite clever to go there.
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ใใ“ใซ่กŒใใซใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š่ณขใ„ไบบใงใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ“ใŒ
55:51
I think that's where the offices, go.
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ใ‚ชใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚นใฎ่กŒใในใใจใ“ใ‚ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
55:56
yeah. That's where all the the offices come come from.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ™ในใฆใฎใ‚ชใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚นใฏใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
55:59
I think you've got. And I just.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏใŸใ ใ€‚
56:01
Okay, Steve, can I just answer a couple of questions? It.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ„ใใคใ‹่ณชๅ•ใซ็ญ”ใˆใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใใ‚Œใ€‚
56:04
Mr. Steve's house was demolished, so we've had one, two people asking that it was demolished.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎๅฎถใŒๅ–ใ‚ŠๅฃŠใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใฎใงใ€ ๅ–ใ‚ŠๅฃŠใ—ใฆใปใ—ใ„ใจใฎๅ•ใ„ๅˆใ‚ใ›ใŒ 1 ไบบใ‹ 2 ไบบใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
56:11
It doesn't exist anymore.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚‚ใ†ๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
56:12
However, I have video footage, some clips,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใซใฏใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชๆ˜ ๅƒใจใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใƒ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใง
56:17
and, if I can find them during the week, if I'm feeling well enough,
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ใ€ ไปŠ้€ฑไธญใซ่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚Œใฐใ€ไฝ“่ชฟใŒๅๅˆ†ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ๆฅ้€ฑ
56:23
then we might have a little look at Mr.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎๅฎถใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
56:25
Steve's house next week. Thank you. Beatrice.
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ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚ ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ€‚
56:28
I didn't comment on the,
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56:32
on the video because it's obvious that you haven't changed.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅค‰ใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใชใ„ใฎใฏๆ˜Žใ‚‰ใ‹ใชใฎใงใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
56:36
Well, thank you, I know I was only joking anyway.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€ใจใซใ‹ใๅ†—่ซ‡ใ ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
56:40
I was joking because obviously you can't possibly look the same after 17 years.
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17ๅนด็ตŒใฃใฆใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใฏใšใŒใชใ„ใฎใฏๅ†—่ซ‡ใงใ™ใ€‚
56:45
You definitely can't know.
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็ตถๅฏพใซ็Ÿฅใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
56:46
even, you know, now. Amount of Botox.
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ไปŠใงใ‚‚ใญใ€‚ ใƒœใƒˆใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใฎ้‡ใ€‚
56:50
Well, we'll cure that.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฒปใ—ใฆใฟใพใ™ใ€‚
56:52
So yesterday we were in the same place.
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ใใ‚Œใงๆ˜จๆ—ฅใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅŒใ˜ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
56:55
Would you like to see the video that we took yesterday,
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ๆ˜จๆ—ฅ
57:00
when we were in the same place that we were 17 years ago.
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็งใŸใกใŒ17ๅนดๅ‰ใจๅŒใ˜ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ„ใŸใจใใซๆ’ฎใฃใŸใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
57:06
So this is yesterday, and you might recognise one person
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆ˜จๆ—ฅใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใŒใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใซๆ˜ ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบ็‰ฉใซ่ฆ‹่ฆšใˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
57:12
in the video.
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ใ€‚
58:34
Oh hello there. Can you see what I'm doing?
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚ ็งใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
58:36
I'm using the last ever working telephone box in the UK.
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็งใฏ่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงๆœ€ๅพŒใซ็จผๅƒใ—ใŸ้›ป่ฉฑใƒœใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
58:41
The last one? This is the last one.
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใฏ๏ผŸ ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒๆœ€ๅพŒใงใ™ใ€‚
58:43
All the rest don't work anymore.
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ๆฎ‹ใ‚Šใฏใ™ในใฆใ‚‚ใ†ๆฉŸ่ƒฝใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
58:45
Or they've had the phones taken out and replaced with books.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ€้›ป่ฉฑใŒๆ’คๅŽปใ•ใ‚Œใ€ไปฃใ‚ใ‚ŠใซๆœฌใŒ็ฝฎใ‹ใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
58:50
Or a defibrillator, which is a device used
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ใพใŸใฏใ€
58:54
for restarting someone's heart if they have a heart attack.
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ๅฟƒ่‡“็™บไฝœใ‚’่ตทใ“ใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใซๅฟƒ่‡“ใ‚’ๅ†่ตทๅ‹•ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹่ฃ…็ฝฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹้™ค็ดฐๅ‹•ๅ™จใ€‚
58:59
By the way, for those wondering, I am in a place called Chipping Campden.
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ใกใชใฟใซใ€ไธๆ€่ญฐใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฎใŸใ‚ใซ่จ€ใฃใฆใŠใใพใ™ใŒใ€ ็งใฏใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใจใ„ใ†ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
59:03
I'm having a lovely day in the sun with Mr.
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็งใฏใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใจๅฝผใฎๅฆนใ€็พฉ็†ใฎๅผŸใจไธ€็ท’ใซๅคช้™ฝใฎไธ‹ใง็ด ๆ•ตใชไธ€ๆ—ฅใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™
59:06
Steve and his sister and his brother in law as well.
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ใ€‚
59:10
We have had a lovely day.
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็ด ๆ•ตใชไธ€ๆ—ฅใ‚’้Žใ”ใ•ใ›ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
59:12
I hope you are having a lovely day as well.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚็ด ๆ•ตใชไธ€ๆ—ฅใ‚’ใŠ้Žใ”ใ—ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
59:21
So you can probably see that
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€
59:22
the quality of that video is slightly better than the one we showed from 2007.
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ใใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฎๅ“่ณชใฏใ€ 2007 ๅนดใซ็คบใ—ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใ‚ใšใ‹ใซๅ„ชใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใŠใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
59:28
And yes, we were there yesterday.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใฏใ„ใ€็งใŸใกใฏๆ˜จๆ—ฅใใ“ใซใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
59:32
I wasn't feeling great, but I managed to to go there and we did have a good time.
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ไฝ“่ชฟใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šใ‚ˆใใชใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ ใŒใ€ใชใ‚“ใจใ‹่กŒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใฆใ€ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
59:38
In the end, the weather was lovely and there weren't too many people there.
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็ตๅฑ€ใ€ ๅคฉๆฐ—ใ‚‚่‰ฏใใฆไบบใ‚‚ๅฐ‘ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
59:43
I thought there would be more people there yesterday because it does attract a lot of tourist to that area.
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ใ‚ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใซใฏๅคšใใฎ่ฆณๅ…‰ๅฎขใŒ้›†ใพใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅใฏใ‚‚ใฃใจไบบใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
59:51
But very, very there was, you saw there the typical
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ“ใซใฏใ€ๅ…ธๅž‹็š„ใช
59:56
light coloured sort of golden, the yellow sandstone,
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ๆ˜Žใ‚‹ใ„่‰ฒใฎ้‡‘่‰ฒใ€้ป„่‰ฒใฎ็ ‚ๅฒฉใ€
60:00
that is the is the, the local stone
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
60:04
that, all the houses tend to be made of in that area.
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ใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใฎใ™ในใฆใฎๅฎถใŒใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใงไฝœใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎ็ŸณใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
60:08
In fact, you can't build a house in the Cotswolds unless it has is made of that stone.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ ใใฎ็Ÿณใงไฝœใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ„้™ใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใงใฏๅฎถใ‚’ๅปบใฆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
60:15
If that's at least something that resembles it.
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ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ใใ‚ŒใซไผผใŸใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€‚
60:17
Yes, it's called Cotswold stone, Cotswold stone and
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใƒ‰็Ÿณใ€ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใƒ‰็Ÿณใ€ใใ—ใฆใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™
60:22
Christina, I'm quite embarrassed to
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ใ€‚ ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€
60:24
to admit that I don't know what chipping means in Chipping Campden.
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใงใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
60:29
There's another town called Chipping Norton.
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใƒณใจใ„ใ†ๅˆฅใฎ็”บใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
60:32
There's a few with chipping at the beginning, and I can't remember what it means.
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ๆœ€ๅˆใซๆฌ ใ‘ใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ„ใใคใ‹ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒ ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
60:36
So somebody, may well break.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅฃŠใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
60:39
Oh, it means cutting or breaking.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆ‡ใ‚‹ใ€ใพใŸใฏๅฃŠใ™ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ€‚
60:42
well, down.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ไธ‹ใซใ€‚
60:43
That's the definition of the word.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ่จ€่‘‰ใฎๅฎš็พฉใงใ™ใ€‚
60:45
Yes, but whether whether it means that in the context of the name of the town, I don't know, but it was famous.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใงใ‚‚็”บใฎๅๅ‰ใฎๆ–‡่„ˆใงใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏ ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๆœ‰ๅใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
60:51
That town was famous, as were a lot of towns in the Cotswolds for sheep farming and wool.
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ใใฎ็”บใฏใ€ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใฎๅคšใใฎ็”บใจๅŒๆง˜ใซ ็พŠใฎ้ฃผ่‚ฒใจ็พŠๆฏ›ใงๆœ‰ๅใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
60:57
The wool industry dating back to sort of 14 1500s, if not earlier.
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ใ‚ฆใƒผใƒซ็”ฃๆฅญใฎ่ตทๆบใฏใ€ใใ‚Œไปฅๅ‰ใงใฏใชใ„ใซใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€14 1500 ๅนดไปฃใใ‚‰ใ„ใพใง้กใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
61:04
and that market hall was where the sheep would come to be
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ใใ—ใฆใใฎๅธ‚ๅ ดใƒ›ใƒผใƒซใฏ็พŠใฎๆฏ›ใ‚’ๅˆˆใ‚Šใซๆฅใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ—ใŸ
61:12
sheared.
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61:14
I seem to remember from my school days it was sold or something like that.
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ๅญฆ็”Ÿๆ™‚ไปฃใซ ๅฃฒใฃใฆใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใช่จ˜ๆ†ถใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ€‚
61:18
But yes, it's, very much an area of the country famous for its, its wool.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใ“ใ“ใฏใ“ใฎๅ›ฝใฎไธญใงใ‚‚็พŠๆฏ›ใงๆœ‰ๅใชๅœฐๅŸŸใชใฎใงใ™ ใ€‚
61:25
and,
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61:27
you can look that up, go back hundreds and hundreds of years.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฟในใ‚‹ใจใ€ไฝ•็™พๅนดใ‚‚ๅ‰ใซ้กใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
61:31
As a definition, chipping means to remove a small amount from something.
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ๅฎš็พฉใจใ—ใฆใ€ ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใจใฏใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฐ‘้‡ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
61:37
So that is the definition of the actual word, not in reference to the name of the place.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใฎๅฎš็พฉใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎๅๅ‰ใซ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
61:42
However, quite often they would they would give each area a slightly different name
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ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ใ“ใ“ใƒžใƒƒใƒใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไบ’ใ„ใซๆททๅŒใ•ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ๅ„ใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใซใ‚ใšใ‹ใซ็•ฐใชใ‚‹ๅๅ‰ใ‚’ไป˜ใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
61:49
just so they weren't confused with each other a little bit like here in Much Wenlock.
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61:54
So Much Wenlock is very close to another place called Little Wenlock,
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ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒปใƒžใƒƒใƒใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใฏใ€ ใƒชใƒˆใƒซใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎใ™ใ่ฟ‘ใใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€
62:00
and the reason why they are called Much Wenlock and Little Wenlock is
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใŒใƒžใƒƒใƒใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใจใƒชใƒˆใƒซใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹็†็”ฑใฏใ€
62:05
so you don't get them confused with each other, or else they would have
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ไบ’ใ„ใซๆททๅŒใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ†ใ—ใชใ„ใจใ€ๅŒใ˜ๅๅ‰ใซใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™
62:11
the identical name.
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62:13
So that's the reason why.
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62:14
So quite often words or small things will be changed
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€
62:20
or added to to a place name, so it won't be confused.
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ๆททๅŒใ•ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅœฐๅใซๅ˜่ชžใ‚„ๅฐใ•ใช่ฆ็ด ใŒๅค‰ๆ›ดใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Š่ฟฝๅŠ ใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
62:26
Or of course it can identify all of those places
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใซๅฑžใ™ใ‚‹ใ™ในใฆใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่ญ˜ๅˆฅใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™
62:30
belonging to a certain area, which I think
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ใ€‚ใใ‚ŒใŒ
62:34
is what is happening there in the Cotswolds.
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ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใง่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
62:37
So far reports has looked it up and chipping means market.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใพใงใฎใƒฌใƒใƒผใƒˆใงใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฟในใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใจใฏๅธ‚ๅ ดใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
62:41
There we go.
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62:41
so thanks for that.
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ใใ‚Œใงใฏ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
62:43
And I'm sure you're right I remember now from my school days.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆญฃใ—ใ„ใจ็ขบไฟกใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ๅญฆ็”Ÿๆ™‚ไปฃใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ไปŠใงใ‚‚ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
62:48
So it's it's a market town and it was famous for its sheep and its wool industry.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ“ใฏๅธ‚ๅ ดใฎ็”บใงใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€็พŠใจ็พŠๆฏ›็”ฃๆฅญใงๆœ‰ๅใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
62:56
and so yeah.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
62:59
So if you've got chipping in front of it, it means that lots of things get sold there.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใฎๅ‰ใซๆฌ ใ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ใใ“ใงๅคšใใฎใ‚‚ใฎใŒ่ฒฉๅฃฒใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
63:03
So if you wanted to go to the market and sell your animals or your produce, that's where you would go.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ๅธ‚ๅ ดใซ่กŒใฃใฆๅ‹•็‰ฉใ‚„่พฒ็”ฃ็‰ฉใ‚’ๅฃฒใ‚ŠใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏ ใ€ใใ“ใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
63:11
So people would probably know that markets take place in these towns, whether they still do now, I don't know.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ็”บใงๅธ‚ๅ ดใŒ้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผˆ ็พๅœจใ‚‚้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“๏ผ‰ใ€‚
63:18
Well,
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ใพใ‚ใ€
63:19
there are places that still have animal markets and cattle markets.
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ๅ‹•็‰ฉๅธ‚ๅ ดใ‚„็‰›ๅธ‚ๅ ดใŒใพใ ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
63:23
They still exist in some places, not everywhere, but certain places do still have them.
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ใฉใ“ใซใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใฏใพใ ๆฎ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
63:29
They still have cattle markets on certain days of the week, normally on a much larger scale.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไปŠใงใ‚‚้€ฑใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎๆ›œๆ—ฅใซ็‰›ใฎๅธ‚ๅ ดใ‚’้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ ้€šๅธธใฏใฏใ‚‹ใ‹ใซๅคง่ฆๆจกใงใ™ใ€‚
63:36
It's a little bit like the other thing that often is used at the end of a town or a place.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ ็”บใ‚„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎ็ซฏใงใ‚ˆใไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ไป–ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใซๅฐ‘ใ—ไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
63:45
You call it the Shire s h I r e, which of course
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ Shire s h I r e ใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“
63:51
relates to the surrounding area of a town.
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็”บใฎๅ‘จๅ›ฒใฎใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใซ้–ขไฟ‚ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
63:56
So, for example, I came or I was raised
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€็งใฏ
64:00
in a place called Stafford and the surrounding area.
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ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ‰ใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใจใใฎๅ‘จ่พบๅœฐๅŸŸใซๆฅใพใ—ใŸใ€ใพใŸใฏใใ“ใง่‚ฒใกใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
64:04
All of the small villages that surround Stafford
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ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๅ›ฒใ‚€ๅฐใ•ใชๆ‘ใฏใ™ในใฆ
64:09
are called, well, it's known as Staffordshire.
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ใ€ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
64:13
So the Shire relates to those places that surround one particular, like a district.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ทใƒฃใ‚คใ‚ขใฏ ๅœฐๅŒบใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’ๅ›ฒใ‚€ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ้–ขไฟ‚ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
64:21
You could almost say yes it is.
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ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ ใจ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
64:22
It's the old phrase that was used to to show that those with surrounding areas
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€
64:28
of that one town, that one place probably originally they that was there was some lord that would,
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ใใฎ็”บใ€ใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎๅ‘จๅ›ฒใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใฎไบบใ€…ใŒใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅ…ƒใ€…ใฏ
64:36
that ruled that area.
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ใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใ‚’็ตฑๆฒปใ—ใฆใ„ใŸ้ ˜ไธปใŒใ„ใŸใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’็คบใ™ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅคใ„ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใงใ™ใ€‚
64:39
probably and and so to, to make sure
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใใ—ใฆใใ†ใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฝผใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ใฟใ‚“ใชใซ็ขบๅฎŸใซ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ›ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ
64:42
everybody knew it was his would have been his, yeah.
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ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
64:46
Yeah. I mean, it's Gloucestershire.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ฐใƒญใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใงใ™ใ€‚
64:48
We were in Gloucestershire yesterday.
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็งใŸใกใฏๆ˜จๆ—ฅใ‚ฐใƒญใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใซใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
64:50
Staffordshire and where we of course live in Shropshire or Shropshire.
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ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใ€ ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“็งใŸใกใŒไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใพใŸใฏใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใ€‚
64:56
You don't pronounce it Shropshire.
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ใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใจใฏ็™บ้Ÿณใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
64:59
You pronounce it Shropshire.
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ใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใจ็™บ้Ÿณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
65:00
Ayrshire at the end, not Shire.
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใฏใ‚ทใƒฃใ‚คใ‚ขใงใฏใชใใ‚จใ‚ขใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใ€‚
65:04
but. Yeah.
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65:04
Or to do with historical land boundaries and.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏๆญดๅฒ็š„ใชๅœŸๅœฐๅขƒ็•Œ็ทšใจ้–ขไฟ‚ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ‹ใ€‚
65:08
And who would own it at that, you know, going back hundreds and hundreds of years.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ไฝ•็™พๅนดใ‚‚้กใฃใฆใ€่ชฐใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ ใ€‚
65:14
So it's so in this area we call it Shropshire, even though there isn't a place called Shropshire,
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ใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ ๅ ดๆ‰€ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
65:20
because the old word for this area was Salop.
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ใ“ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใฎๅคใ„่จ€่‘‰ใฏใ‚ตใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ ใฃใŸใŸใ‚ใ€ใ“ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใงใฏใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
65:23
Salop.
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ใ‚ตใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ€‚
65:24
So that's what Shropshire was originally known as.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผๅทžใฏใ‚‚ใจใ‚‚ใจใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
65:27
So Shropshire is still used, although this area was part of, of a place called Mercia.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใฏใƒžใƒผใ‚ทใ‚ขใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใ‚ใฃใŸใซใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‚‰ใšใ€ใ‚ทใƒฅใƒญใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใฏไปŠใงใ‚‚ไฝฟ็”จใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
65:35
Mercia was the area in the Midlands, and that was the old name for it.
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ใƒžใƒผใ‚ทใ‚ขใฏใƒŸใƒƒใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒณใƒ‰ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใงใ€ ใใ‚ŒใŒใใฎๅคใ„ๅๅ‰ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
65:40
Steve. Yes.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
65:41
In fact we still use that in certain respects when we talk about, for example,
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€็งใŸใกใฏไปŠใงใ‚‚ ใ€ใŸใจใˆใฐ
65:48
the areas that are placed by certain authorities.
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็‰นๅฎšใฎๅฝ“ๅฑ€ใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆ็ฝฎใ‹ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅœฐๅŸŸใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎ็‚นใงใ“ใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
65:52
So we still use Mercia even though the area itself doesn't actually exist anymore.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใ‚จใƒชใ‚ข่‡ชไฝ“ใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ‚‚ใ†ๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใƒกใƒซใ‚ทใ‚ขใ‚’ไปŠใงใ‚‚ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
65:59
But we still say things like West Mercia, we still relate to that place, even though it doesn't technically exist anymore.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใฏไปŠใงใ‚‚ใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚นใƒˆใƒžใƒผใ‚ทใ‚ขใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ ใŸใจใˆใใ‚ŒใŒๆŠ€่ก“็š„ใซใฏใ‚‚ใ†ๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใพใ ใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ้–ขไฟ‚ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
66:09
It's very strange, Loretta says, comparing the two footages.
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ใƒญใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ฟใ•ใ‚“ใฏใ€2 ใคใฎๆ˜ ๅƒใ‚’ๆฏ”่ผƒใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใ ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
66:12
The one from 2007 and the one from yesterday.
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2007ๅนดใฎใ‚‚ใฎใจๆ˜จๆ—ฅใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ€‚
66:16
Not much has changed in the urban landscape.
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้ƒฝๅธ‚ๆ™ฏ่ฆณใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅค‰ใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
66:20
No, no, because they won't be.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
66:22
The locals won't be allowed to change it.
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ๅœฐๅ…ƒๆฐ‘ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ่จฑใ•ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
66:25
there will be very strict planning rules in place all over the Cotswolds and in these old villages.
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ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บๅ…จๅŸŸใจใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅคใ„ๆ‘ใ€…ใงใฏใ€้žๅธธใซๅŽณๆ ผใช่จˆ็”ป่ฆๅ‰‡ใŒๅฎšใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
66:33
Then you you cannot change even the wind style of the windows in the houses.
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ใใ†ใชใ‚‹ใจใ€ ๅฎถใฎ็ช“ใฎ้ขจๅ‘ใใ™ใ‚‰ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
66:38
You would be heavily fined.
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ๅคš้กใฎ็ฝฐ้‡‘ใ‚’็ง‘ใ›ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
66:40
You would have to get planning permission.
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่จˆ็”ป่จฑๅฏใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
66:42
If you wanted to convert a building into something else, it would all have to be kept looking exactly as it does
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ๅปบ็‰ฉใ‚’ๅˆฅใฎใ‚‚ใฎใซๅค‰ใˆใŸใ„ใชใ‚‰ใ€ ใใฎๅปบ็‰ฉใฏใ™ในใฆใใฎๅงฟใ‚’ใใฎใพใพใซใ—ใฆใŠใ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
66:50
so that town, Chipping Campden pretty much probably if you went back there
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใฎ็”บใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒป ใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใฏใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ
66:54
100 years ago, 200 years ago, it would look very, very similar.
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100 ๅนดๅ‰ใ€200 ๅนดๅ‰ใซใใ“ใซๆˆปใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใพใฃใŸใๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใจใฆใ‚‚ไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
67:00
because you can't change in those sort of towns in the UK.
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ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใฎใใ†ใ„ใ†็”บใงใฏ็€ๆ›ฟใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚
67:04
it's not the same in Much Wenlock. You can't just
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ใƒžใƒƒใƒใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใงใฏๅŒใ˜ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
67:08
demolish a building and put something up.
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ๅปบ็‰ฉใ‚’ๅฃŠใ—ใฆไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๅปบใฆใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใฏใ ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
67:10
That's modern.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็พไปฃ็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚
67:11
you wouldn't get planning permission for it.
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่จˆ็”ป่จฑๅฏใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
67:14
And that's probably, I would think, in many other countries, as well, around the roundabout.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ไป–ใฎๅคšใใฎๅ›ฝใงใ‚‚ ๅŒๆง˜ใซใ€ใƒญใƒผใ‚ฟใƒชใƒผใฎๅ‘จใ‚Šใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
67:21
So that's why it hasn't changed, because no one would be allowed to change it.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ€ ่ชฐใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่จฑใ•ใ‚Œใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚‰ใชใ„็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
67:29
Yes. It wouldn't be allowed anyway, because the buildings are protected.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ๅปบ็‰ฉใฏไฟ่ญทใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใ„ใšใ‚Œใซใ—ใฆใ‚‚่จฑๅฏใ•ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
67:34
You might say that they are protected by law.
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ๆณ•ๅพ‹ใงๅฎˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
67:37
They're all protected. And some of those buildings will be hundreds and hundreds.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใ™ในใฆไฟ่ญทใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅปบ็‰ฉใฎไธญใซใฏใ€ไฝ•็™พใ‚‚ใฎๅปบ็‰ฉใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
67:40
Probably some of those buildings will be 4 or 500 years old, probably,
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅปบ็‰ฉใฎไธญใซใฏ็ฏ‰ 4 ๅนดใ‹ 500 ๅนดใซใชใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ้žๅธธใซ
67:44
very, very old buildings, probably very cold in the winter, I would think.
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้žๅธธใซๅคใ„ๅปบ็‰ฉใงใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅ†ฌใฏ้žๅธธใซๅฏ’ใ„ใจ ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
67:49
Very poor insulation. Yeah.
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ๆ–ญ็†ฑๆ€งใŒ้žๅธธใซๆ‚ชใ„ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
67:52
If you've got solid brick walls, but very good for soundproof. Yes.
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ใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ—ใŸใƒฌใƒณใ‚ฌใฎๅฃใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ้˜ฒ้Ÿณใซใฏ้žๅธธใซ้ฉใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
67:59
Solid brick.
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ใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใจใ—ใŸใƒฌใƒณใ‚ฌใ€‚
68:01
If you ever wanted to live in a house where you know that you're not going to hear much noise from the outside,
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ๅค–ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎ้จ’้ŸณใŒใ‚ใพใ‚Š่žใ“ใˆใชใ„ใจใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฎถใซไฝใฟใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใฎ
68:07
make sure your house is built of solid brick or solid stone and then you are okay.
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ๅฎถใŒใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ—ใŸใƒฌใƒณใ‚ฌใ‹ใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ—ใŸ็Ÿณใงๅปบใฆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็ขบ่ชใ™ใ‚Œใฐ ใ€ๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ€‚
68:12
Definitely. Okay,
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็ตถๅฏพใซใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ๅ…ˆใปใฉใ‚‚ใŠใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
68:15
so it
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68:16
is interesting how we still have a connection with the past, even though you said earlier.
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็งใŸใกใŒใพใ ้ŽๅŽปใจใฎใคใชใŒใ‚Šใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใงใ™ใญ ใ€‚
68:20
Steve, what I found interesting also yesterday is what you said is
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅ็งใŒ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ€ใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰็”Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ๆ„Ÿๆƒ…
68:25
you didn't feel much in the sense of the, the, the emotion that came from it.
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ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๆ„Ÿใ˜ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ ใ€‚ ๆœ€่ฟ‘
68:33
And I think that's an interesting point to make because
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68:37
if you look back at something that has happened
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่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ๆŒฏใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ‚‹ใจ
68:40
recently, there is always a strong connection.
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ใ€ๅธธใซๅผทใ„ใคใชใŒใ‚ŠใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ๆŒ‡ๆ‘˜ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
68:44
But I think as time goes by, that connection becomes less and less.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๆ™‚้–“ใŒ็ตŒใคใซใคใ‚Œใฆใ€ ใใฎใคใชใŒใ‚Šใฏใพใ™ใพใ™่–„ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
68:49
It almost fades away.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉๆถˆใˆใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
68:52
So it was around 30 years,
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใ‚’้›ขใ‚Œใ€้ฉๅˆ‡ใซๅผ•ใฃ่ถŠใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰็ด„ 30 ๅนดใ€
68:56
over 30 years, maybe 35 years since you
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30 ๅนดไปฅไธŠใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ 35 ๅนดใŒ็ตŒใกใพใ—ใŸ
69:01
you actually left that area and actually moved away properly.
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69:07
And, and you said that you didn't feel that that connection yesterday.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅใฏใใฎใคใชใŒใ‚Šใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใญ ใ€‚ ใŠใใ‚‰ใ15ใ€6ๅนดๅ‰ใ€
69:12
Now were my parents left there sort of 15, 16 years ago probably.
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็งใฎไธก่ฆชใฏใใ“ใซๆฎ‹ใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
69:18
So I used to go back and visit the old,
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใฏๆ˜”ใฎๅฎถใซๆˆปใฃใฆใ€
69:22
you know, where I'm at, where I grew up until they left.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒๅŽปใ‚‹ใพใงใ€็งใŒใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€็งใŒ่‚ฒใฃใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่จชใญใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
69:26
But, yes, I was expecting to go back.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใฏใ„ใ€็งใฏๆˆปใฃใฆใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
69:31
So I haven't been back there probably 20 years.
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ใชใฎใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ†20ๅนดใใ‚‰ใ„ใฏๅธฐใฃใฆใ„ใชใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
69:33
As I've said, to where I was brought up, I was expecting
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ๅ…ˆใปใฉใ‚‚่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€็งใฏ่‚ฒใฃใŸ็’ฐๅขƒใงใ€
69:38
maybe to feel more sort of sadness or emotion around that, but I didn't.
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ใ‚‚ใฃใจๆ‚ฒใ—ใฟใ‚„ๆ„Ÿๆƒ…ใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใจๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
69:45
Maybe that's because I'm a bit older now. Maybe it's because
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒใ‚‚ใ†ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅนดใ‚’ใจใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ‚Œใฏใ€
69:49
I've lived in
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69:51
the West Midlands area for far longer, so that feels more like home now to me.
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ใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚นใƒˆใƒปใƒŸใƒƒใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒณใ‚บๅœฐๅŸŸใซ้•ทใไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ไปŠใงใฏใใ“ใŒใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆ•…้ƒทใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
69:57
and I don't have any friends
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ใใ—ใฆ
70:01
in that area.
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ใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใซใฏๅ‹้”ใŒใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
70:02
I haven't stayed in touch or in contact with any school, friends or anybody that I used to know
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็งใฏ ๅญฆๆ กใ€ๅ‹ไบบใ€ใพใŸใฏๅฝ“ๆ™‚็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใŸไบบใŸใกใจใฏ้€ฃ็ตกใ‚’ใจใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
70:11
back in the you know, I'm talking back in the 1970s now, so there's no I've got really no connection there.
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ไปŠใฏ 1970 ๅนดไปฃใฎ่ฉฑใช ใฎใงใ€ใพใฃใŸใใคใชใŒใ‚ŠใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
70:17
There was a bit of emotional connection, but, it wasn't too much.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆ„Ÿๆƒ…็š„ใชใคใชใŒใ‚Šใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ ใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
70:22
So, it was quite in a way, I was quite pleased because I didn't really want to get upset.
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ใชใฎใงใ€ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅ‹•ๆบใ—ใŸใใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
70:27
and as you get older, I think you you let go of these things a bit easier.
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ใใ—ใฆๅนดใ‚’้‡ใญใ‚‹ใซใคใ‚Œใฆใ€ ใใ†ใ„ใฃใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆ‰‹ๆ”พใ™ใฎใŒๅฐ‘ใ—ๆฅฝใซใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
70:32
Yes. It is interesting, isn't it, that how that can happen, how you can you think there will be more reaction
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€ใฉใ†ใ—ใฆใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šๅพ—ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ€ ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใฃใจใ‚‚ใฃใจๅผทใ„ๅๅฟœใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„
70:38
because you thought maybe you would react a lot, a lot stronger?
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ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใซใ€ ใฉใ†ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใฃใจๅๅฟœใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
70:42
But when we got there, it almost, there was almost nothing
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใŒใใ“ใซ็€ใ„ใŸใจใใ€ใใ“ใซใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ
70:47
there.
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70:47
It was just it was nice to go back there.
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ใŸใ ใใ“ใซๆˆปใ‚Œใฆใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
70:49
I was feeling quite happy to go there, but I didn't feel sad.
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็งใฏใใ“ใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใฆใจใฆใ‚‚ๅนธใ›ใชๆฐ—ๆŒใกใงใ—ใŸใŒใ€ๆ‚ฒใ—ใ„ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
70:52
No, because I in my mind that's the past now.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€็งใฎๅฟƒใฎไธญใงใฏใใ‚Œใฏใ‚‚ใ†้ŽๅŽปใฎใ“ใจใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
70:57
I've got no connection with anybody there.
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ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹่ชฐใจใ‚‚ไฝ•ใฎใคใชใŒใ‚Šใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
71:00
I don't know anybody there.
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ใใ“ใซใฏ่ชฐใ‚‚็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
71:02
I mean, nobody said, oh, Stephen, nice to see you back.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€่ชฐใ‚‚ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใƒณใ€ใพใŸไผšใˆใฆใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใ€ใจใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:06
I didn't get a welcome as we arrived.
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็งใŸใกใŒๅˆฐ็€ใ—ใŸใจใใ€็งใฏๆญ“่ฟŽใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:09
Not that I would have done anyway.
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ใจใซใ‹ใ็งใŒใใ†ใ—ใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
71:12
but, yeah, it's because it's a relatively large, you know, town.
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ใงใ‚‚ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใพใ‚ใ€ๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„ๅคงใใช ็”บใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใญใ€‚
71:18
It's about a thousand people live there, I think.
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ๅƒไบบใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎไบบใŒไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
71:20
Maybe more than that, but.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใใ‚ŒไปฅไธŠใ‹ใ‚‚็Ÿฅใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใ€ใ€ใ€‚
71:22
Yeah. No.
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71:22
So I was quite pleased in a way. I just visited we left.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใ„ใˆใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚ ใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉ่จชๅ•ใ—ใฆๅ‡บ็™บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:26
That was it.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใใ‚Œใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:27
I didn't see anyone I knew, didn't recognise anyone.
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็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใซใฏไผšใ‚ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ—ใ€่ชฐใซใ‚‚ๆฐ—ใฅใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
71:31
Which you wouldn't do in a town that size.
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ใ‚ใฎ่ฆๆจกใฎ็”บใงใฏใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏใ—ใชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
71:33
Yeah, we probably three quarters of half the people.
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ใˆใˆใ€็งใŸใกใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใๅŠๅˆ†ใฎไบบใ€…ใฎ4ๅˆ†ใฎ3ใงใ™ใ€‚
71:36
There were probably visitors anyway.
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ใจใซใ‹ใ่จชๅ•่€…ใŒใ„ใŸใฎใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
71:38
So one thing we did notice is there were more tea shops than anything else there.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŸใกใŒๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใŸใ“ใจใฎ1ใคใฏใ€ ใใ“ใซใฏไป–ใฎใฉใ“ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใŠ่Œถๅฑ‹ใŒๅคšใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
71:42
Yeah. well, that was.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:44
Can I just point out that was your home town, the place where you were, you were raised.
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71:50
And that's a place called Morton in Marsh. So that's a different.
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71:54
So that's another place. Chipping Campden is quite close.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š่ฟ‘ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
71:58
So you drive a little bit further and you can go to Chipping Campden.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—่ปŠใ‚’่ตฐใ‚‰ใ›ใ‚‹ ใจใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใ‚ซใƒ ใƒ‡ใƒณใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
72:02
So that area was, was where Mr.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใฏใ€
72:06
Steve was raised as a child.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใŒๅญไพ›ใฎ้ ƒใซ่‚ฒใฃใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
72:11
Yes. And he was beautiful.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใฏ็พŽใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
72:13
You don't you don't realise at the time when you're a child, but it is a very nice part of, of England to live in
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ๅญใฉใ‚‚ใฎ้ ƒใฏๆฐ—ใฅใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใŒใ€ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใฎไธญใงใ‚‚ไฝใฟใ‚„ใ™ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ‚ใ‚Š
72:20
and, very expensive to live in now, I don't think.
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ใ€ไปŠใงใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็‰ฉไพกใŒ้ซ˜ใ„ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
72:24
Well, we couldn't afford to buy a house there, Mr.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใใ“ใซๅฎถใ‚’่ฒทใ†ไฝ™่ฃ•ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€
72:26
Duncan.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
72:27
The house prices there are about double what they are in the rest of England, because it is
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72:34
just a very picturesque area.
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72:38
But anyway. Yeah.
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ใงใ‚‚ใจใซใ‹ใใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
72:39
And of course the most famous area in that particular part is Chipping Norton.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใงๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆœ‰ๅใชใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใฏ ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใƒณใงใ™ใ€‚
72:44
Chipping Norton is where all the many celebrities live there and politicians live there.
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72:52
So lots of big celebrities, lots of big names, lots of people driving around
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ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎๅคง็‰ฉใ‚ปใƒฌใƒ–ใ€ๆœ‰ๅไบบใ€
72:57
in giant Range Rovers is what you will find.
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ๅทจๅคงใชใƒฌใƒณใ‚ธใƒญใƒผใƒใƒผใซไน—ใฃใฆ่ตฐใ‚Šๅ›žใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
73:01
so in that area, Chipping Norton is the area where
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ใใฎใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใƒณใฏใ€
73:06
the really, really posh people live and and lots of celebs is there.
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73:11
Celebrities, royalty even will often be seen walking around Chipping Norton.
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ๆœ‰ๅไบบใ‚„็Ž‹ๆ— ใ‚‚ใƒใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใƒปใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใƒณใฎๅ‘จใ‚Šใ‚’ๆญฉใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใŒใ‚ˆใ่ฆ‹ใ‹ใ‘ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
73:17
Oh very nice. We didn't go there though.
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73:22
We didn't go there.
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73:23
Unfortunately, everything is overpriced.
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73:26
Well, I would, I would say where if you if you go to anywhere where there are
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73:30
tourists, quite often you will find that everything will be more expensive.
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73:35
That's what's happening at the moment, by the way, in Paris, in Paris,
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73:39
they're having a big problem because there aren't enough people going there.
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73:44
So because the Olympics are taking place, isn't it strange, Steve?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚ชใƒชใƒณใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใŒ้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใซใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–๏ผŸ ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎไบบใ‚’
73:48
Isn't it ironic that something that they're doing to attract
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73:55
more people has actually had the opposite effect?
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73:59
It's put people off.
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ใใ‚Œใฏไบบใ€…ใ‚’ใŒใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ•ใ›ใพใ™ใ€‚
74:00
Well, I was going to ask you and I was going to ask Lewis
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74:04
if he knew.
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74:05
I don't suppose Lewis has been to Paris, recently.
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74:11
but, you know, would this be a good time to visit?
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74:13
Because they were suggesting quite strongly to us on the news last night that now would be a very good time to visit,
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74:21
Paris, because, a lot of the hotels are only,
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74:26
not fully booked, so there might be some bargains to be had.
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74:29
Yeah.
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74:30
And certainly, like a lot of the airlines have been struggling
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74:34
to, to get people, to go there and fill their planes.
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ไบบใ€…ใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใ€ใใ“ใซ่กŒใใ€้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใ‚’ๆบ€ๅ“กใซใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ่‹ฆๅŠดใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚
74:38
And they were interviewing some of the, restaurants and the,
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74:42
the owners were saying, well, you know, we're only half full.
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74:46
We expecting a lot more people to visit.
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74:48
Taxi drivers were struggling with getting enough business.
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74:53
But the problem is, Steve, you can't go to the places, so.
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74:58
So that the problem is you can't actually visit any of the big locations, the famous locations.
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75:06
So you can't go to the Eiffel Tower unless you're attending the Olympics, because those areas
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ชใƒชใƒณใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใชใ„้™ใ‚Šใ‚จใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚งใƒซๅก”ใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚จใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚งใƒซๅก”ใฎใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใฏ
75:12
have been separated from the rest of the city.
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75:15
Yeah. So if you wanted to visit Paris,
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใƒ‘ใƒชใ‚’่จชใ‚ŒใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใพใŸใฏ
75:19
if you
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go to visit Paris as a tourist, the first place you're going to want to go is the Eiffel Tower.
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่ฆณๅ…‰ๅฎขใจใ—ใฆใƒ‘ใƒชโ€‹โ€‹ใ‚’่จชใ‚ŒใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใซ่กŒใใŸใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใฏใ‚จใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚งใƒซๅก”ใงใ™ใ€‚
75:24
Yeah.
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75:24
So if you can't go there, you're going to think to yourself, well, why would I go at all?
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใใ“ใซ่กŒใ‘ใชใ„ใชใ‚‰ใ€ ใชใœ็งใฏใใ“ใซ่กŒใๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹โ€‹โ€‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
75:29
Yeah, because the number one place to visit in Paris is the Eiffel Tower.
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ใใ†ใ€ใƒ‘ใƒชใงไธ€็•ชใฎ่ฆณๅ…‰ๅœฐใฏ ใ‚จใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚งใƒซๅก”ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
75:35
That's the most famous landmark that everybody knows about.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆœ‰ๅใชใƒฉใƒณใƒ‰ใƒžใƒผใ‚ฏใงใ™ใ€‚
75:38
So if you can't visit that, you're probably going to make the decision not to go at all.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใใ“ใซ่กŒใ‘ใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ใŠใใ‚‰ใใพใฃใŸใ่กŒใ‹ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ๆฑบๆ–ญใ‚’ไธ‹ใ™ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
75:42
But it's everywhere as well, because there are security boundaries all over Paris.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ ใƒ‘ใƒชๅ…จๅœŸใซใฏ่ญฆๅ‚™ไธŠใฎๅขƒ็•Œ็ทšใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใฉใ“ใซใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
75:48
As you.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€‚
75:49
I'm sure you don't need me to
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75:52
explain that quite often with these sorts of events, security is the number one priority.
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ใ“ใฎ็จฎใฎใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใงใฏ ใ‚ปใ‚ญใƒฅใƒชใƒ†ใ‚ฃใŒๆœ€ๅ„ชๅ…ˆไบ‹้ …ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ˆใ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
75:58
So there are lots of parts of Paris that you can't get to, or you
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใƒ‘ใƒชใซใฏ ่กŒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚„ใ€
76:02
you could only go through if you have some sort of pass.
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ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎใƒ‘ใ‚นใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใชใ„ใจ้€šใ‚Œใชใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
76:06
So that's the other reason.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใคใฎ็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
76:09
So it's ironic that something that is supposed to generate this interest, this, this immense
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ใ“ใฎ้ƒฝๅธ‚ใธใฎใ“ใฎๅทจๅคงใช้–ขๅฟƒใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ™ใฏใšใ ใฃใŸใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ€
76:16
interest in the city has actually put a lot of people off because they know that they can't get around.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ ้ ใ–ใ‹ใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ็šฎ่‚‰ใชใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
76:23
Or of course, as we mentioned a few moments ago, everything is more expensive at the moment.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๅ…ˆใปใฉใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใ™ในใฆใฎใ‚‚ใฎใŒ้ซ˜ไพกใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
76:29
The Reta makes a
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Reta ใฏใ€
76:32
a little show that let me try and pronounce your name correctly there lot.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅๅ‰ใ‚’ๆญฃใ—ใ็™บ้Ÿณใ—ใฆใฟใ›ใ‚‹ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ—ใŸใ‚ทใƒงใƒผใ‚’ ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚„ใฃใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
76:36
I can't roll my eyes to de la Renta.
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ใƒ‡ใƒปใƒฉใƒปใƒฌใƒณใ‚ฟใซใฏ็›ฎใŒ้›ขใ›ใชใ„ใ€‚
76:38
You don't have to wear that. You're supposed to be.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’็€ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ†ใชใ‚‹ใฏใšใงใ™ใ€‚
76:41
I can't roll my RA, Lauretta.
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RA ใ‚’่ปขใŒใ™ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ฟใ€‚
76:43
That's better.
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ใใฎๆ–นใŒ่‰ฏใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
76:45
Mr. Steve grew up in the Cotswolds.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใฏใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใง่‚ฒใกใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
76:48
Now I understand why he is so posh.
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ใชใœๅฝผใŒใ‚ใ‚“ใชใซ้ซ˜็ดšใชใฎใ‹ใŒๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
76:51
But let me tell you something, Loretta.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ไธ€ใค่จ€ใ‚ใ›ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€ใƒญใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ฟใ€‚
76:53
I was posh before I went to the Cotswolds.
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ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใซ่กŒใๅ‰ใฏไธŠๅ“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
76:56
And everybody at school was a.
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ใใ—ใฆๅญฆๆ กใฎใฟใ‚“ใชใฏ ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
77:00
Are you. Are you are you from the Cotswolds? I'm a farmer.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บๅ‡บ่บซใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ็งใฏ่พฒๅฎถใงใ™ใ€‚
77:03
They all spoke like that, all very countrified, and I, I turned up and my sister,
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็š†ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚็”ฐ่ˆŽใฃใฝใ„ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใง่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ็งใ€็งใจๅฆนใŒ็พใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
77:10
because, of course, when you go to a local school, most of the people that go to that school from local families
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎๅญฆๆ กใซ้€šใ†ๅ ดๅˆใ€ ใใฎๅญฆๆ กใซ้€šใ†ไบบใฎใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฏๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎๅฎถๆ—ใฎๅ‡บ่บซใง
77:17
and, they're all local people
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ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ๅ…จๅ“กใŒๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎไบบใ€…ใงใ‚ใ‚Š
77:21
and they're not tourists going to the schools, and they all
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ใ€ๅญฆๆ กใซ้€šใ†่ฆณๅ…‰ๅฎขใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
77:25
probably their
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ
77:26
parents and grandparents grew up there and were born there.
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ไธก่ฆชใ‚„็ฅ–็ˆถๆฏใฏใใ“ใง่‚ฒใกใ€ใใ“ใง็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
77:30
So when I went to school, speaking like they used to call me Mr.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŒๅญฆๆ กใซ่กŒใฃใŸใจใใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใ‚’ใ€ŒใƒŸใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒปใƒใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใ€ใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฉฑใ—
77:33
Posh, I was I was the posh kid from out of town, my sister didn't get.
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ใ€็งใฏ ็”บใฎๅค–ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใŸไธŠๅ“ใชๅญไพ›ใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ๅฆนใฏใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
77:41
And I used to get a lot of not bullying, but a lot of ribbing, shall we say, a lot of mimicking.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏใ„ใ˜ใ‚ใงใฏใชใใ€ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‹ใ„ ใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚‚ใฎใพใญใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅ—ใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
77:47
What do you mean, ribbing, I call it.
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ใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹ใ€่‚‹้ชจใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
77:48
They people used to call me posh and a snob because.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ไธŠๆต้šŽ็ดšใจใ‹ไฟ—็‰ฉใ ใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
77:52
And my accent then was even posher because for some reason my parents had very posh accents.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎ็†็”ฑใง ็งใฎไธก่ฆชใŒ้žๅธธใซไธŠๅ“ใชใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใŸใ‚ใ€ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฎ็งใฎใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใฏใ•ใ‚‰ใซไธŠๅ“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
77:59
Even though we didn't, they didn't come from posh families at all.
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ใŸใจใˆใใ†ใงใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆฑบใ—ใฆ่ฃ•็ฆใชๅฎถๅบญใฎๅ‡บ่บซใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
78:03
No, they lived in a council house.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ่ญฐไผš่ญฐไบ‹ๅ ‚ใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
78:06
Yeah, both my parents.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ไธก่ฆชใงใ™ใ€‚
78:07
You can just potty describe that. They probably received their pronunciation.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’้ฉๅฝ“ใซ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงๆธˆใฟใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใฎ็™บ้Ÿณใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใฃใŸใฎใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
78:11
They did?
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78:11
Yes, because a lot of people then in that era grew up with very posh accents.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ†ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฎๅคšใใฎไบบใฏ ้žๅธธใซไธŠๅ“ใชใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใง่‚ฒใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฎไธก่ฆชใŒใใ†ใงใ‚ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
78:16
They they liked to imitate the Queen and the royal family, even though they were very poor, which my parents were.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใจใฆใ‚‚่ฒงใ—ใ„ใซใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‚‰ใšใ€ๅฅณ็Ž‹ใ‚„็Ž‹ๅฎคใฎ็œŸไผผใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
78:22
They came from very poor backgrounds, but moving, but with this accent I've got now and I used to speak really posh.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ้žๅธธใซ่ฒงใ—ใ„็’ฐๅขƒใฎๅ‡บ่บซใงใ—ใŸใŒใ€ๆ„Ÿๅ‹•็š„ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ ็งใŒไปŠๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใงใ€็งใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ไธŠๅ“ใซ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
78:30
Lay out. Hello. Hello everyone.
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ใƒฌใ‚คใ‚ขใ‚ฆใƒˆใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚
78:32
How are you? Very nice to meet you.
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ๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ๅˆใ‚ใพใ—ใฆใ€‚
78:35
very. I used to.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ€‚ ไปฅๅ‰ใฏใ‚ˆใ๏ผฟ๏ผฟใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ€‚
78:36
I've lost a lot of the plushness over the decades.
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็งใฏไฝ•ๅๅนดใซใ‚‚ใ‚ใŸใฃใฆๅคšใใฎ่ฑช่ฏใ•ใ‚’ๅคฑใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
78:40
but imagine me going to a school when they're all over who are who are always noise day to day.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใ„ใคใ‚‚้จ’้Ÿณใ‚’ๅ‡บใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใŒ็ต‚ใ‚ใฃใŸใจใใซใ€็งใŒๅญฆๆ กใซ่กŒใใจใ“ใ‚ใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚
78:45
And they were.
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ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
78:46
And I was going. Hello. Yes. Nice to meet you. Yes. Wonderful.
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏ่กŒใใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใฏใ˜ใ‚ใพใ—ใฆใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚
78:50
I used to get a lot of, ribbing, as we say, a lot.
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็งใฏใ‚ˆใ่จ€ใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใƒชใƒ–ใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
78:54
So when you rib someone, you are making fun of the make.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‹ใ†ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€ใใฎไบบใ‚’ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‹ใ†ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
78:57
but also people made fun of my accent.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ็งใฎใชใพใ‚Šใ‚’ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‹ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
79:00
I think a lot of people still do.
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ไปŠใงใ‚‚ใใ†ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฏๅคšใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:02
Yeah.
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79:02
So I was posh before I went to the Cotswolds.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใซ่กŒใๅ‰ใฏไธŠๅ“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
79:05
Because most people in the Cotswolds are not posh.
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ใ‚ณใƒƒใƒ„ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใ‚บใฎใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎไบบใฏไธŠๅ“ใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
79:09
Oh, yeah, because most of
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฏใ€
79:11
them are just sort of relatively ordinary people with ordinary jobs and ordinary lives.
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ๆ™ฎ้€šใฎไป•ไบ‹ใจๆ™ฎ้€šใฎ็”Ÿๆดปใ‚’้€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆฏ”่ผƒ็š„ๆ™ฎ้€šใฎไบบใ€…ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
79:17
It's only a certain percentage that have all the money.
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ใ™ในใฆใฎใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏไธ€ๅฎšใฎๅ‰ฒๅˆใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
79:20
Yeah, but I think over the years, to be fair, that area has become more affluent.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๅ…ฌๅนณใ‚’ๆœŸใ™ใŸใ‚ใซใ€ใ“ใ“ๆ•ฐๅนดใง ใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Š่ฑŠใ‹ใซใชใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:27
So there are more people living there now.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ไปŠใงใฏใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅคšใใฎไบบใŒใใ“ใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:31
Definitely with with money.
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้–“้•ใ„ใชใใŠ้‡‘ใจไธ€็ท’ใงใ™ใ€‚
79:34
So there are more people living in the area now with money.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ไปŠใงใฏใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ“ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŒๅข—ใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:36
That's why most people think of that area as being the place where a lot of the wealthy people live.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ๅคšใใฎไบบใฏใใฎใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใฏ ๅฏŒ่ฃ•ๅฑคใŒๅคšใไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:42
Because because basically that is the case, because over the years people have moved there.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏใใ†ใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€้•ทๅนดใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆไบบใ€…ใŒใใ“ใซ็งปไฝใ—ใฆใใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใƒญใƒณใƒ‰ใƒณใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใปใฉ้ ใใชใ„ใ€
79:49
It's become a very attractive place and it's not far from London.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
79:54
That's the other thing.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
79:55
So you can travel, commute quite easily from that part of the world to London quite quickly and easily.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ไธ–็•ŒใฎใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใƒญใƒณใƒ‰ใƒณใพใง็ด ๆ—ฉใ็ฐกๅ˜ใซๆ—…่กŒใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€้€šๅ‹คใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚
80:03
So that's another reason why it is it is quite popular as well.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ้žๅธธใซไบบๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใคใฎ็†็”ฑใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
80:08
I have to be honest with you, Steve.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
80:10
I am feeling a little bit tired.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—็–ฒใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
80:13
I haven't been very well.
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ใ‚ใพใ‚Š่ชฟๅญใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
80:14
If you missed the start of today's live stream, I woke up on Friday morning with my face swollen.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใฎ้–‹ๅง‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹้€ƒใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ้‡‘ๆ›œๆ—ฅใฎๆœใซ็›ฎใŒ่ฆšใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ้ก”ใŒ่…ซใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
80:20
Something was going on inside my face, inside my mouth and I think I've got some sort of infection.
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้ก”ใฎไธญใ‚„ๅฃใฎไธญใงไฝ•ใ‹ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใฆ ใ€ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๆ„ŸๆŸ“็—‡ใซใ‹ใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
80:29
So now I'm taking some some medicines, some stupid antibiotics
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ใใ‚ŒใงไปŠใ€็งใฏใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ่–ฌใ‚’ๆœ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใฐใ‹ใ’ใŸๆŠ—็”Ÿ็‰ฉ่ณชใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
80:34
which are making me go slightly crazy as well, which is, and you need to take your next dose.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—็‹‚ใ‚ใ›ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Š ใ€ๆฌกใฎๆœ็”จใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚
80:39
By the way, I've taken it.
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ใกใชใฟใซใ€้ ‚ใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
80:40
Oh yes.
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ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚
80:41
No, don't worry Steve, this Mr.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๅฟƒ้…ใ—ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฏ
80:44
Steve is like my nursemaid. Yes. Take your tablets. Yes.
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็งใฎ็œ‹่ญทๅธซใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ้Œ ๅ‰คใ‚’ๆœ็”จใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
80:50
Although I was a bit worried because the tablets are huge.
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ใ‚ฟใƒ–ใƒฌใƒƒใƒˆใŒๅคงใใ„ใฎใงๅฐ‘ใ—ๅฟƒ้…ใงใ—ใŸใŒใ€‚
80:54
They're really big.
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅคงใใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
80:55
And I said, Steve, I said, where?
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€็งใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใฉใ“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
80:58
Which end do I put them in?
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ใฉใกใ‚‰ใฎ็ซฏใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚Œใฐใ‚ˆใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
81:00
They look a bit like suppositories.
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่ฆ‹ใŸ็›ฎใฏๅบง่–ฌใซๅฐ‘ใ—ไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
81:02
Yes. Well that's that's kind of what I was gonna do.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒใ‚„ใ‚ใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
81:05
I was just using the word. Yeah.
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ใŸใ ่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
81:08
So, I was just about to do the joke that.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉๅ†—่ซ‡ใ‚’่จ€ใŠใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจใ“ใ‚ใ ใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
81:12
Oh, well, let's go on.
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81:12
Yeah, yeah, well, it doesn't matter now.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใงใฏใ€็ถšใ‘ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
ใฏใ„ใ€ใฏใ„ใ€ใพใ‚ใ€ไปŠใฏ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
81:15
Well, I think you made the joke anyway. Yeah.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใจใซใ‹ใๅ†—่ซ‡ใ‚’่จ€ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
81:18
So. So does it go in this end or the other end?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ“ใกใ‚‰ใฎ็ซฏใซ่กŒใใฎใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ๅๅฏพๅดใฎ็ซฏใซ่กŒใใฎใ‹๏ผŸ
81:22
Was this the end of the joke?
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ใ“ใ‚Œใงๅ†—่ซ‡ใฏ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
81:24
We have Hamza on who is beginning?
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ใƒใƒ ใ‚ถใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€่ชฐใŒๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
81:26
Who is the starter?
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ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚ฟใƒผใฏ่ชฐใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
81:27
A new learner to English. Well,
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅˆใ‚ใฆๅญฆใถไบบใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€
81:31
so I've got to say, your writing, your writing is very good.
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81:35
so congratulations on that.
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81:38
So hopefully you will learn a bit more about pronunciation.
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81:42
Yeah. It's, Well, if you're watching Mr.
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81:44
Duncan's channel that he has hundreds and hundreds of videos, by the way.
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81:48
So, you know, do have a look at Mr.
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81:50
Duncan's other videos. Yes.
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81:53
There are many videos on my YouTube channel.
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81:56
I will be going in a moment because, well, to be honest with you,
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82:00
if I was honest, I don't feel that great.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใ™ใใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
82:05
That's why Steve came on at the start, just in case I collapsed on the floor.
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82:10
And then. And then Steve could take over one week.
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ใใฎๅพŒใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฏ 1 ้€ฑ้–“ไปฅไธŠใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–
82:14
it would be interesting to see what would happen if Mr.
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ๆฐใŒๅ˜็‹ฌใงใƒฉใ‚คใƒ– ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ๅ…จไฝ“ใ‚’ๆ็คบใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
82:17
Steve presented a whole live stream on his own.
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82:21
Now, I think we did it before, didn't we, Steve?
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82:23
Oh, my God, that face. I don't know whether I did or not.
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82:27
I think you have I think you definitely have.
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82:30
At some point,
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82:33
either presented for a short period of time
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82:36
for about 15 or 20 minutes or, or done it as a joke, maybe.
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82:41
But that would be interesting, wouldn't it, if Steve did a live stream by himself
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ้ข็™ฝใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใญใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒใƒ—ใƒญใƒ‡ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใ›ใšใซ่‡ชๅˆ†ใงใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–้…ไฟกใ‚’ใ—ใŸใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰
82:47
not producing it, by the way, I would still have to operate the controls.
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ใ€ ็งใฏใพใ ใ‚ณใƒณใƒˆใƒญใƒผใƒซใ‚’ๆ“ไฝœใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
82:53
But maybe, Steve, you could you could present your own English addict one week.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžไธญๆฏ’ใ‚’ 1 ้€ฑ้–“็ดนไป‹ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹ใ€‚
82:58
Imagine that.
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83:02
So I'll I'll think on that, Mr.
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83:05
Duncan. I'll sleep on it.
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83:07
I don't really fancy the idea because it's your channel.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใƒใƒฃใƒณใƒใƒซใชใฎใงใ€ใใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅฅฝใใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
83:10
And, I'm not an English teacher.
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83:12
No. You are.
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83:14
Well, we were just explaining what was happening. Yes.
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83:17
Yeah, I think it'd be interesting.
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83:18
Actually, it would also give me a rest as well.
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83:21
I could have a little rest. They might be very revealing.
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83:26
Anyway, we're going in a second.
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83:28
I hope you've enjoyed today's different live stream.
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83:32
I hope I will be feeling better by next Sunday.
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83:35
I hope so, I might not be with you on Wednesday.
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83:41
So there will be a video?
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83:43
Probably, but you might not see me live on Wednesday.
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83:47
We will see what happens. I have to take it easy.
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83:51
I don't want to make myself ill again so we will see what happens.
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83:56
Thank you, Mr.
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83:57
Steve for for helping me today, I think.
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84:02
I hope I've helped.
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ใŠๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใฆใ‚Œใฐๅนธใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
84:03
I hope I've contributed something that, people have found interesting.
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84:07
It's been lovely to be here to see all our lovely friends that that come
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84:11
and, visit us, on this, live stream every Sunday.
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84:16
I've enjoyed it.
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84:18
I now need to go and, make you a nice, hot drink, Mr.
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84:21
Duncan. Yes.
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84:22
And look after you and your recovery.
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84:28
I think you're over the worse.
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84:29
And, of course, as I as I said earlier, the interesting thing about earlier,
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84:34
it did seem as if I was getting a little bit too excited.
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84:39
But I think it is important to remember what this actually is.
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84:44
What we have as a community.
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84:47
But we are kind of fighting a battle in a way, aren't we?
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ€ๆˆฆใ„ใ‚’ๆˆฆใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
84:53
Us, you, me and you watching out there because we have to try and stay relevant.
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็งใŸใกใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ€็งใ€ใใ—ใฆใใ“ใ‚’่ฆ‹ๅฎˆใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚ ใ€ๅธธใซ้–ข้€ฃๆ€งใ‚’ไฟใŸใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
85:01
We have to almost fight to to keep ourselves
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็งใŸใกใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŸใกใ‚’
85:06
watched and keep us together, because that is the thing that we have to try and do.
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็›ฃ่ฆ–ใ—ใ€ๅ›ฃ็ตใ•ใ›็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใปใจใ‚“ใฉๆˆฆใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใŒๅŠชๅŠ›ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
85:12
I think it is important probably now more than ever, Steve, we have to make sure we have lots of people around us.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใไปŠใฏใ“ใ‚ŒใพใงไปฅไธŠใซ้‡่ฆใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ ็งใŸใกใฎๅ‘จใ‚ŠใซใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎไบบใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็ขบ่ชใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
85:18
People, good people, kind people, generous people,
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ไบบใ€…ใ€่‰ฏใ„ไบบใ€่ฆชๅˆ‡ใชไบบใ€ๅฏ›ๅคงใชไบบใ€
85:22
nice people, like minded people.
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็ด ๆ•ตใชไบบใ€ๅŒใ˜่€ƒใˆใ‚’ๆŒใคไบบใ€‚
85:26
Yeah, some of these like minded.
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ใˆใˆใ€ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใช่€ƒใˆใฎไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
85:28
It means you you tend to have similar opinions about things and and understand each other.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็‰ฉไบ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚’ๆŒใกใ€ใŠไบ’ใ„ใ‚’็†่งฃใ—ๅˆใ†ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚
85:33
So the difference is we are here to do that, to share
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้•ใ„ใฏใ€็งใŸใกใŒใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€
85:38
experiences, nice things, not to create anger
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ๆ€’ใ‚Šใ‚„ๆ†Žใ—ใฟใ€ๆ„่ฆ‹ใฎ็›ธ้•ใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ™ใŸใ‚ใงใฏใชใใ€็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚„่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใงใ™
85:42
or hate or disagreement.
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ใ€‚
85:47
We don't want people shouting and fighting. However,
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็งใŸใกใฏไบบใ€…ใŒๅซใ‚“ใ ใ‚Šไบ‰ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
85:51
it is more
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85:52
difficult than ever to break through that noise.
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ใใฎใƒŽใ‚คใ‚บใ‚’ๆ‰“ใก็ ดใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ“ใ‚ŒใพใงไปฅไธŠใซๅ›ฐ้›ฃใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
85:57
It is, and it's a very serious thing.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซๆทฑๅˆปใชใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
85:59
I do like to have fun here, but this is a very serious point that I have to make.
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็งใฏใ“ใ“ใงๆฅฝใ—ใ‚€ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒ่จ€ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„้žๅธธใซๆทฑๅˆปใช็‚นใงใ™ใ€‚
86:04
It is becoming more and more difficult for this to work
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86:10
as a thing, because there is so much noise around nowadays.
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ๆ˜จไปŠใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚ๅคšใใฎใƒŽใ‚คใ‚บใŒ้ฃ›ใณไบคใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็‰ฉไบ‹ใจใ—ใฆๆฉŸ่ƒฝใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใพใ™ใพใ™ๅ›ฐ้›ฃใซใชใฃใฆใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
86:16
I am not being dramatic either. It is a real thing, you know.
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็งใ‚‚ๅŠ‡็š„ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
86:19
I've seen it actually happen with with everything that we've been doing over the past couple of years
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้ŽๅŽปๆ•ฐๅนด้–“
86:26
and certainly over the past 18 years here on YouTube.
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ใ€ใใ—ใฆ้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ“ใ“ YouTube ใง้ŽๅŽป 18 ๅนด้–“ใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆ็งใŸใกใŒใ‚„ใฃใฆใใŸใ“ใจใ™ในใฆใงใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
86:31
Anyway. Mr.. Steve, we will leave it there.
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ใจใ‚‚ใ‹ใใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใฎใพใพใซใ—ใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
86:33
Thank you very much for joining us, Mr..
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ใ”ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใฆ่ช ใซใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€
86:35
Steve, and we will see you next Sunday.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใพใŸๆฌกใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใซใŠไผšใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใพใงใซ
86:40
Hopefully I will be feeling better
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ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒ
86:42
by then.
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ใ€‚
86:43
You will be lovely to be here and see you all again next week.
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ใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใฆใ€ๆฅ้€ฑใพใŸไผšใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฌ‰ใ—ใๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
86:47
Thank you, Mr. City.
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ใ‚ทใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
86:48
Thank you, Mr. Steve.
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ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
86:52
That was Mr. Steve and I'm going as well.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€ใใ—ใฆ็งใ‚‚่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
86:54
I'm going to have a lie down.
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ๆจชใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ™ใ€‚
86:56
It was an interesting one. Different.
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่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ๅ†…ๅฎนใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ้•ใ†ใ€‚ ่‹ฑ่ชžใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใชใฉ
86:59
Quite often we have subjects that we talk deeply about
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ใซใคใ„ใฆๆทฑใ่ฉฑใ™ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒ
87:03
maybe concerning English, but today it was with a little bit more free.
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ใ€ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅฐ‘ใ—่‡ช็”ฑใช้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
87:09
In fact, I have to say I quite enjoy it.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
87:11
I quite enjoy the the slightly more free way of speaking.
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ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ่‡ช็”ฑใช่ฉฑใ—ๆ–นใŒใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
87:17
I think it is sometimes more natural.
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ใ‚‚ใฃใจ่‡ช็„ถใชๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ„ใ‚ˆใ„ใ‚ˆ
87:21
It is time to go.
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ๅ‡บ็™บใงใ™ใ€‚
87:22
I hope you've enjoyed today's live stream.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใŠๆฅฝใ—ใฟใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
87:24
See you not on Wednesday.
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ๆฐดๆ›œๆ—ฅใงใฏใชใใŠไผšใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
87:27
I don't think I will be here on Wednesday, but I will do my best to be with you 100%.
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ๆฐดๆ›œๆ—ฅใซใฏใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใ‚Œใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€100๏ผ…็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆœ€ๅ–„ใ‚’ๅฐฝใใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
87:35
Well, next Sunday.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ๆฌกใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใ€‚
87:38
And of course there will be some new video lessons coming up during the week as well.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ไปŠ้€ฑไธญใซใฏๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใ‚‚ใ„ใใคใ‹็™ปๅ ดใ™ใ‚‹ไบˆๅฎšใงใ™ ใ€‚
87:43
Take care of yourselves, enjoy the rest of your Sunday and I will see you later.
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ไฝ“ใซๆฐ—ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใฆใ€ๆฎ‹ใ‚Šใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใพใŸๅพŒใงไผšใ„ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
87:51
This is Mr. Duncan and of course Mr.
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ใ“ใกใ‚‰ใฏใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐใ€ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“
87:54
Steve saying thanks for watching.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใงใ€่ฆ‹ใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
87:56
See you soon. Take care of yourselves.
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ใพใŸ่ฟ‘ใ„ใ†ใกใซใŠไผšใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ๆฐ—ใ‚’ไป˜ใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
87:59
And of course, until the next time we meet here, you know what's coming next.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆฌกใซใ“ใ“ใงไผšใ†ใพใงใฏใ€ ๆฌกใซไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
88:03
Yes, you do.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
88:06
Have a good day.
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่‰ฏใ„ไธ€ๆ—ฅใ‚’ใ€‚
88:08
And of course.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€‚
88:12
Ta ta for now.
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