Advanced Natural English: Can You Understand This Conversation about Online Shopping? (Subtitles)

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2021-05-11 ใƒป To Fluency


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Advanced Natural English: Can You Understand This Conversation about Online Shopping? (Subtitles)

163,537 views ใƒป 2021-05-11

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ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

00:00
- Hello, this is Jack from tofluency.com along with Kate.
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- ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€tofluency.com ใฎใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ ใจใ‚ฑใ‚คใƒˆใงใ™ใ€‚
00:04
And today we're going to talk about,
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ
00:07
well, you introduced the topic today.
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ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒไปŠๆ—ฅ็ดนไป‹ใ—ใŸใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:09
- Yes, so today's topic is going to be.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใฏ
00:13
one that I came up with.
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็งใŒๆ€ใ„ใคใ„ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ€‚
00:15
It's Online Shopping.
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ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใงใ™ใ€‚
00:17
- Online shopping. - Mm-hmm.
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- ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
00:18
- Yeah, and we've made a list
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- ใˆใˆใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
00:19
of a few different topics around this
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ใ“ใ‚Œใซ้–ข้€ฃใ™ใ‚‹ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็•ฐใชใ‚‹ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
00:21
where I'm going to talk about a couple of my recent orders.
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ใ€‚ใ“ใ“ใงใฏใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใฎๆณจๆ–‡ใฎใ„ใใคใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™.
00:25
- Mm-hmm
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- ใ†ใƒผใ‚“
00:26
- The a trending online shopping.
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- ใƒˆใƒฌใƒณใƒ‰ใฎใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚
00:28
And also things like meal delivery services, too.
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ใพใŸใ€้ฃŸไบ‹ใฎ ้…้”ใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใชใฉใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
00:32
- Mm-hmm. - Okay.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
00:34
- Before we get started too much,
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- ใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซใ€
00:36
I had these on but there is a little bit too much glare.
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็งใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒ ใ€ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ‚ฐใƒฌใ‚ขใŒๅคšใ™ใŽใพใ™.
00:39
This is where the conversation came from.
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ใ“ใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ไผš่ฉฑใŒๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:41
These are my new glasses.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ็งใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒกใ‚ฌใƒใงใ™ใ€‚
00:43
- Mm-hmm
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- ใ†ใƒผใ‚“
00:44
- I ordered them online.
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- ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงๆณจๆ–‡ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:45
I just picked out the style, uploaded my subscription.
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ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’้ธใ‚“ใง ใ€ใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:48
And a week later I had some glasses.
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ใใ—ใฆไธ€้€ฑ้–“ๅพŒใ€็งใฏใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็œผ้กใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:51
- Oh your prescription. - Mm-hmm.
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-ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ‡ฆๆ–น็ฎ‹ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
00:53
Yeah, not subscription. - Yeah, yeah.
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ใˆใˆใ€ใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใˆใˆใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚
00:55
- Prescription
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00:55
- So, yeah, glasses prescription is basically telling how
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- ๅ‡ฆๆ–น็ฎ‹
- ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใƒกใ‚ฌใƒใฎ ๅ‡ฆๆ–น็ฎ‹ใฏใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎ
01:01
strong you need them.
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ๅผทๅบฆใŒๅฟ…่ฆใ‹ใ‚’็คบใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:02
What kind of lenses to make.
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ใฉใ‚“ใชใƒฌใƒณใ‚บใ‚’ไฝœใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€‚
01:03
- Mm-hmm. - Yeah.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
01:05
And I think that's an interesting place to start
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01:07
because if you think back 10 years
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10 ๅนดๅ‰ใ‚’ๆŒฏใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ‚‹
01:10
the thought of getting glasses online.
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ใจใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง็œผ้กใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†่€ƒใˆใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
01:13
- Yeah
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01:13
- Because when online shopping started
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- ใˆใˆ
- ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใŒๅง‹ใพใฃใŸใจใ
01:16
people thought, okay, it's gonna be
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ใ€่ฉฆ็€ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฎใชใ„ใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ†ใƒ ใซใชใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจไบบใ€…ใŒๆ€ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰
01:17
for items that you don't need to try on.
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ใงใ™ใ€‚
01:20
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
01:21
- But companies that got around this
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-ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚ฏใƒฌใ‚ธใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ซใƒผใƒ‰ใฎ่ฉณ็ดฐใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ™ใ‚‹้™ใ‚Š
01:22
by allowing you to try things on for free
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ใ€็„กๆ–™ใง่ฉฆ็€ใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ›ž้ฟใ—ใŸไผๆฅญ
01:26
as long as you give them your credit card details.
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.
01:29
So, just today, I'm going to get some new glasses.
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ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒกใ‚ฌใƒใ‚’่ฒทใ„ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
01:32
So I've ordered five pairs
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5่ถณๆณจๆ–‡ใ—ใŸใฎใง
01:35
and they're going to deliver these to our house.
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ใ€ๅฎถใพใงๅฑŠใ‘ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
01:38
I'm gonna try them on, choose my favorite one,
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่ฉฆ็€ใ—ใฆ ใ€ใŠๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใฎใƒฌใƒณใ‚บใ‚’้ธใ‚“ใงใ€
01:40
send them all back,
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ๅ…จ้ƒจ
01:42
and then they'll put the right lenses in.
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้€ใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ›ใฐใ€ๆญฃใ—ใ„ใƒฌใƒณใ‚บใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€‚
01:44
- Mm-hmm.
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01:45
- But I think that's a good example
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- ใ—ใ‹ใ—
01:46
of something that you just never thought was gonna happen.
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ ใพใฃใŸใ่€ƒใˆใ‚‚ใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†่‰ฏใ„ไพ‹ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™.
01:49
- Yeah, no way. - Yeah.
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- ใˆใˆใ€็„ก็†ใงใ™ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
01:51
- Yeah, all sorts of things.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€ใ„ใ‚ใ„ใ‚ใ€‚
01:52
Like we bought a mattress online a few years ago.
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ๆ•ฐๅนดๅ‰ใซใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงใƒžใƒƒใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซ ใ€‚
01:56
- Mm-hmm
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€
01:57
They had an amazing refund policy.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๆ‰•ใ„ๆˆปใ—ใƒใƒชใ‚ทใƒผใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:01
- Uh-huh. - Do you remember?
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
02:02
- Yeah, so they took all the risk out,
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-ใˆใˆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ™ในใฆใฎใƒชใ‚นใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใ„ใŸ
02:05
so you could get the mattress
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ใฎใงใ€ใƒžใƒƒใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€
02:07
and then if you didn't like it, you could return it.
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ๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃ ใŸๅ ดๅˆใฏ่ฟ”ๅ“ใงใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:10
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
02:11
- No questions asked.
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- ่ณชๅ•ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
02:12
- Yeah. - Or donate it.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใพใŸใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅฏ„ไป˜ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
02:13
- No, you could donate it to charity.
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- ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๆ…ˆๅ–„ๅ›ฃไฝ“ใซๅฏ„ไป˜ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
02:15
- Uh-huh. - And you get your money back.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ -ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๆˆปใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
02:17
- Yep.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€‚
02:18
- I wonder if they still do that?
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- ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใพใ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ ใ‚ใ†ใ‹?
02:19
- I think so.
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- ใใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
02:21
I think that's a pretty key part of their model
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02:23
because you don't want to spend hundreds of dollars,
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ๆ•ฐ็™พใƒ‰ใƒซใ€
02:27
or even now a larger mattresses, a thousand.
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ใพใŸใฏไปŠใงใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคงใใช ใƒžใƒƒใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใ€1000ใƒ‰ใƒซใ‚’ไฝฟใ„ใŸใใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎใƒขใƒ‡ใƒซใฎใ‹ใชใ‚Š้‡่ฆใช้ƒจๅˆ†ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™.
02:32
Give or take- - Yeah.
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ใ‚ฎใƒ–ใƒปใ‚ชใ‚ขใƒปใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ฏ - - ใˆใˆใ€‚
02:34
- And not know if you'll like it.
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅฅฝใใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„.
02:37
- Yeah, so do you do a lot of online shopping?
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- ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใฏใ‚ˆใใ—ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
02:43
- Do you? (chuckles)
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- ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ๏ผŸ (็ฌ‘ใ„)
02:45
- We both do, don't we? - Yeah.
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- ็งใŸใกไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ? - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
02:46
- Yeah. - We do.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
02:48
- And it's just become such a convenience now.
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- ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ไปŠใจใฆใ‚‚ไพฟๅˆฉใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:51
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
02:52
- With fast shipping times, refund policies.
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02:58
I think I might've this before,
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02:59
but what if my new year's resolution
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03:03
for 2020 was not to go to the grocery store more
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03:06
than five times a year.
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03:08
- Mm-hmm.
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03:09
- Because I got used to grocery shopping online
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03:11
and getting it delivered.
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03:13
And then the Corona virus hit.
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03:16
And everyone was online shopping anyway.
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03:18
And you couldn't get any times available.
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03:20
- Yeah, so you were ahead of the curve, but then the curve-
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03:24
- The curve did something incredible.
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03:27
Yeah, so there's so many things you can get online now,
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03:30
but I think we need to talk about the one website
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03:33
that's really taken over here in the US.
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03:36
- Mm-hmm.
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03:37
- Probably I think in the UK and other parts of Europe.
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03:40
- I think in the world- - In the world.
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03:41
- Really.
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03:42
Yeah, actually that's a great question for today.
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03:46
Is amazon.com popular where you live?
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03:49
And do you use this website to buy things online?
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03:53
I remember they started out by just having books, right?
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03:57
- Mm-hmm.
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03:58
- So it was an online bookstore.
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03:59
- It was.
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04:01
- And do you remember one of their tactics
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04:03
to increase their customer base?
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04:06
- I don't.
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04:07
- So, I think it was the bookstore Borders.
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04:11
- Uh-huh.
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04:12
- Which used to be very popular.
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04:13
- Yes.
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04:14
- And they said to Borders,
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04:16
"okay we can ship your books around the US
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04:21
for a very low price if we get the customer data".
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04:27
And Borders said, "yes, that sounds amazing".
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04:30
And they thought, "I think this is right".
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04:32
I'll leave a link to an article about this.
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04:33
So you can read about it.
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04:35
And Borders thought,
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04:36
"yeah, this is great. We're getting a great deal"
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04:38
because Amazon's taking care of all of this for us.
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04:43
But little by little that customer list went to Amazon.
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04:47
Amazon sent them emails, follow-ups,
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04:49
then people were buying from the Amazon store.
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04:52
- That makes sense, yeah.
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04:54
- I'm sort of done stuff like that all the time.
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04:57
But I was thinking about Amazon as well
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04:59
because there's a push back
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against it because it's a big store.
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05:03
- Mm-hmm.
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05:04
- It takes over, and it's killing independent stores,
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05:07
independent bookstores.
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05:09
But I was thinking about this because we also
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05:12
know people who create stuff and they use Amazon
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05:16
and they love Amazon.
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05:17
- Mm-hmm. - To sell that items
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05:19
around the country.
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05:20
- Yeah.
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05:21
- So it also supports people who want
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05:24
to use a fully integrated logistical system.
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05:30
- Mm-hmm.
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05:31
- To sell stuff and deliver stuff online.
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05:35
- Yeah, we have a few friends who have opened Amazon stores,
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05:41
selling various things.
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05:43
Some of them have broken even,
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05:45
some of them have been really successful with it.
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05:47
- Mm-hmm. - A few people have not,
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05:50
but it is definitely a force to be reckoned with,
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05:54
especially after last year.
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05:56
- Yeah, oh yeah.
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05:58
Last year, well, I mean,
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06:00
we know people in our neighborhood and ourselves-
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06:03
- Mm-hmm.
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06:04
- When everyone was stuck at home,
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06:06
people ordered things that maybe they didn't need,
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06:09
we didn't need, but thinking if we were gonna be
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06:12
at home all this time, then let's make it fun.
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ใฎใชใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆณจๆ–‡ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:15
Let's make it exciting and have good stuff to do.
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ใ‚จใ‚ญใ‚ตใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐ ใชใ‚‚ใฎใซใ—ใฆใ€่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
06:19
- Yeah, what was one example of that?
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใใฎไธ€ไพ‹ใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใŸใ‹?
06:22
- Like, well, we know people who got hot tubs?
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-ใพใ‚ใ€ใƒ›ใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ฟใƒ–ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆ ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
06:26
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
06:27
- Swimming pools. - Mm-hmm.
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- ใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
06:29
- Or, you know, we got a little paddling pool.
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-ใพใŸใฏใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ ใ€ๅฐใ•ใชใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
06:33
- I think that actually was from beforehand.
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โ€•โ€•ๅฎŸใฏ ๅ‰ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:37
- A paddle pool. - But we did...
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- ใƒ‘ใƒ‰ใƒซใƒ—ใƒผใƒซ - ใงใ‚‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ...
06:38
I did get a lot of books.
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ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎๆœฌใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:39
- Yeah. (chuckles)
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ (็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
06:42
- You got chickens in a chicken coop.
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- ้ถๅฐๅฑ‹ใง้ถใ‚’้ฃผใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
06:44
- I did, but I did not get those from Amazon.
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- ๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€Amazon ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฏๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:47
- No, but you got it online, right?
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-ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงๅ…ฅๆ‰‹ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
06:50
- I did. - Yeah.
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- ใ‚„ใฃใŸใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
06:51
So everyone was buying things online-
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง็‰ฉใ‚’่ฒทใฃใฆใ„ใŸ
06:54
- Mm-hmm.
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- - ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
06:55
- And then there was a shortage of certain items, too.
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- ใใ—ใฆใ€ ็‰นๅฎšใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ†ใƒ ใ‚‚ไธ่ถณใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:58
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
06:59
- But yeah, Amazon is definitely taken over here,
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โ€•โ€•ใงใ‚‚ใพใ‚ใ€Amazonใฏ ็ขบๅฎŸใซไน—ใฃๅ–ใ‚‰
07:02
and people have that, "ugh, I don't want to use it
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ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ—ใ€ใ€Œใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€
07:06
because such a big company is taken over".
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ใ“ใ‚“ใชๅคงไผๆฅญใŒไน—ใฃๅ–ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ไฝฟใ„ใŸใใชใ„ใ€ใฃใฆไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
07:11
But the convenience seems to win out.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅˆฉไพฟๆ€งใŒๅ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
07:13
- Mm-hmm. - Yeah.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:15
- It does.
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- ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:16
- Yeah, online shopping.
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚
07:18
So, in the past it used to be books.
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆ˜”ใฏๆœฌใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:20
We used to buy books online.
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็งใŸใกใฏไปฅๅ‰ใ€ๆœฌใ‚’ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:23
Also, Netflix just used to be DVDs delivery, right?
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ใพใŸใ€NetflixใฏDVDใฎ้…ไฟกใซไฝฟ็”จใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ‚ˆใญ?
07:28
- Yes, I remember you got to order, was it five?
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-ใฏใ„ใ€ ๆณจๆ–‡ใ—ใŸใฎใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€5ๅ€‹ใงใ—ใŸใ‹?
07:32
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:33
- I think five sticks in my head as a number,
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- ้ ญใฎไธญใง5ๆœฌใฎๆฃ’ใŒๆ•ฐๅญ—
07:35
and they would come, and you could watch the DVDs,
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ใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใจใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒๆฅใฆ ใ€DVDใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆ
07:37
and then return them.
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฟ”ใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
07:38
- Mm-hmm, instead of going to your local store-
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- ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎๅบ—ใซ่กŒใไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซ
07:41
- Yes
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- -ใฏใ„
07:42
- And getting the DVDs from there.
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-ใใ—ใฆใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰DVDใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
07:44
- Uh-huh.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:45
- So, there is this move towards people buying things
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- ใใ‚Œใงใ€
07:49
at home online and they can get it delivered.
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ๅฎถใง็‰ฉใ‚’ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่ณผๅ…ฅใ— ใ€้…้”ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ใจใ„ใ†ๅ‹•ใใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
07:52
So Amazon has taken over.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ขใƒžใ‚พใƒณใŒไน—ใฃๅ–ใฃใŸใ€‚
07:55
I've just bought a new cap, which I'm very excited about.
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ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใง ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใƒฏใ‚ฏใƒฏใ‚ฏใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:59
(both chuckles)
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(ไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
08:00
- You're probably gonna get to see this cap.
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- ใ“ใฎใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’็›ฎใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
08:01
Because I think once it arrives,
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅˆฐ็€ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€
08:04
well, either you're gonna love it,
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅฅฝใใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€
08:06
or you're gonna hate it.
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ๅซŒใ„ใซใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™.
08:07
- Yeah - But if you love it,
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- ใˆใˆ - ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๅฅฝใใชใ‚‰ใ€
08:08
I don't think you're gonna take it off.
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่„ฑใใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:10
- I'm doing Instagram, or go to Fluency on Instagram.
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- Instagram ใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ ใพใŸใฏ Instagram ใง Fluency ใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:15
- Uh-huh.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:16
- And then you can see the new cap once it arrives.
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ ๅˆฐ็€ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
08:19
- It's something else.
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-ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
08:21
- It's a little bit different.
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- ๅฐ‘ใ—้•ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:22
- Yeah, it's very, very style...
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใŒใ„ใ„ใงใ™...
08:25
Bold stylishly.
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ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒชใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใซๅคง่ƒ†ใซใ€‚
08:27
- Yeah. - Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:28
- But it was something that I wanted to treat myself,
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- ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ็งใŒ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’ๆฒป็™‚ใ—ใŸใ‹ใฃใŸ
08:31
and that's the one thing...
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ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ 1 ใคใฎใ“ใจ
08:32
But it was more expensive than I'm willing to spend.
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ใงใ—ใŸ.
08:35
But you were laughing a little bit
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—
08:37
because in terms of, you know, the overall prices.
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ใ€ๅ…จไฝ“็š„ใชไพกๆ ผใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏใ€ๅฐ‘ใ—็ฌ‘ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:40
- Well, for how much you wanted this hat and, how...
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- ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ‚ใชใŸ ใŒใ“ใฎๅธฝๅญใ‚’ใฉใ‚Œใ ใ‘ๆฌฒใ—ใŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใ‹ใ€ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆ...
08:44
So, can I say the price of it or-
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฎไพกๆ ผใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ‹
08:47
- No. - No, okay.
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08:48
- No, they'll have to go on Instagram to find out.
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-ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ Instagramใง่ชฟในใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:50
- To find out.
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- ่ชฟในใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ€‚
08:52
For the price of the hat,
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ๅธฝๅญใฎๅ€คๆฎตใซใคใ„ใฆใ€
08:54
you have been agonizing about this for weeks.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไฝ•้€ฑ้–“ใ‚‚ๆ‚ฉใ‚“ใง ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:57
- I would say agonizing.
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-็งใฏ่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:59
- I would say agonizing.
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-็งใฏ่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
09:00
(both chuckles)
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(ไธกๆ–น็ฌ‘ใ„)
09:01
- I just won today. - I was just...
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- ไปŠๆ—ฅๅ‹ใฃใŸใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚ - ็งใฏใŸใ ...
09:02
Sometimes I see you looking at your phone-
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ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ใชใŸใฎๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใพใ™
09:05
- They keep targeting me on Instagram.
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.
09:07
- Oh, that's the other thing.
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-ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
09:08
- Yes. - Instagram shopping.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€‚ - Instagram ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚
09:10
- Yep, Instagram shopping has become very popular now.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€Instagramใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐ ใฏไปŠใจใฆใ‚‚ไบบๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
09:14
- Uh-huh.
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09:14
- Yeah, so this is where you get targeted
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
- ใˆใˆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
09:17
with ads for certain things.
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็‰นๅฎšใฎๅบƒๅ‘Šใฎใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚ฒใƒƒใƒˆใซใชใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
09:19
And for example, I'll buy a shirt like this,
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ ใ“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’
09:22
or look up a shirt like this,
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่ชฟในใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹
09:24
and then suddenly every other ad is,
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09:27
"hey, what about this shirt?", "what about this shirt?",
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ใ€Œใญใˆใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹?ใ€ ใ€Œใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹?ใ€ใจใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
09:29
from all different companies.
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09:31
Not just the company I was looking at.
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็งใŒ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใŸไผš็คพใ ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
09:32
- Mm-hmm, you know what I find really annoying?
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ ็งใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่ฟทๆƒ‘ใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
09:35
- Go on.
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- ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใ€‚
09:36
- Have you ever been looking
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09:37
for something for a really long time?
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้•ทใ„้–“ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆŽขใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
09:39
- Mm-hmm. - You finally decided
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ โ€•โ€•ใคใ„ใซ
09:40
to buy it.
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่ณผๅ…ฅๆฑบๅฎšใงใ™ใญใ€‚
09:41
You pull the trigger. - Mm-hmm.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅผ•ใ้‡‘ใ‚’ๅผ•ใใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
09:44
- So you actually buy it online.
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- ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
09:45
- And yeah, pull the trigger, that's a good one.
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- ใˆใˆใ€ๅผ•ใ้‡‘ใ‚’ๅผ•ใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
09:47
- And then you keep on seeing ad, after ad,
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใฎ ๅบƒๅ‘Šใ‚’ๆฌกใ€…ใจ่ฆ‹็ถšใ‘ใพใ™ใŒใ€
09:51
after ad for that same thing, only better,
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09:55
and less expensive - Mm-hmm.
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ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅฎ‰ไพกใชใ ใ‘ใงใ™ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
09:56
- And better reviewed and it'll come faster and you just...
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- ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ใƒฌใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ใ‚ˆใ‚Š้€Ÿใๆฅใ‚‹
10:01
- Yeah. = It's really frustrating.
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10:02
- Well, you can't win it all-
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-ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ในใฆๅ‹ใคใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›
10:03
- No - Win them all.
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10:04
But, yeah, I mean, it's not like we buy too much on them.
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10:08
We go through phases, don't we, really?
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10:11
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
10:12
- Like how we go through a phase
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10:14
in spring when I get my summer clubs out
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10:17
and think, "I didn't really wear that last year,
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ใฆใ€ใ€Œ ๅŽปๅนดใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็€
10:20
I didn't wear this,
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ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‚็€ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‚
10:21
I didn't wear that".
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็€ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใจๆ€ใ†ๆ˜ฅใฎๆฎต้šŽใ‚’็ตŒใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ.
10:22
And I'll donate those clothes,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๆœใ‚’ๅฏ„ไป˜
10:24
and maybe buy three or four new T-shirts for the year.
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ใ—ใฆใ€ไปŠๅนดไธญใซๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ T ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’ 3ใ€4 ๆžš่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ไบˆๅฎšใงใ™ใ€‚
10:28
But I do have a little bit of a problem
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10:30
at the moment with something.
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็พๅœจใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใซๅฐ‘ใ—ๅ•้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
10:32
- What? - Books?
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- ไฝ•๏ผŸ - ๆœฌ๏ผŸ
10:34
- Oh yeah, mm-hmm?
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- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€ใ†ใƒผใ‚“๏ผŸ
10:35
- And there's a meme isn't there that I showed you?
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- ใใ—ใฆ ใ€็งใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซ่ฆ‹ใ›ใŸใƒŸใƒผใƒ ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ?
10:38
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
10:39
- What a person's looking at,
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10:41
or the the woman is looking at the guy to say like,
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ใพใŸใฏๅฅณๆ€งใŒ็”ทๆ€งใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆ ใ€
10:44
"all the books that I've bought recently",
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ใ€Œๆœ€่ฟ‘่ฒทใฃใŸใ™ในใฆใฎๆœฌใ€ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
10:48
and then a guy... "and not read".
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่จ€ใ„ใ€ๆฌกใซ็”ทๆ€ง... ใ€Œ่ชญใ‚“ใงใ„ใชใ„ใ€.
10:50
And then the guy's looking at "oh, new book".
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็”ท ใฏใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๆœฌใ€ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:52
- Yep. - Yeah.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
10:53
- I think it's called like your, "to be read pile"?
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โ€•โ€• ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€Œ่ชญใพใ‚Œใ‚‹ใƒ‘ใ‚คใƒซใ€ใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
10:56
- Yeah, I've got a big pile, and the big thick books.
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-ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏๅคงใใชๅฑฑ ใจๅคงใใชๅˆ†ๅŽšใ„ๆœฌใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:59
- I know.
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- ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚
11:00
- And the hard books to read.
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- ใใ—ใฆ่ชญใ‚€ใฎใŒ้›ฃใ—ใ„ๆœฌใ€‚
11:02
(both chuckles)
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(ไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใ„)
11:03
- They're like college books are classics.
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- ใพใ‚‹ใงๅคงๅญฆใฎๆœฌใŒๅคๅ…ธใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
11:08
So, yeah.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚
11:09
- But I'm using thrift books for that.
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- ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใฎใŸใ‚ใซๅคๆœฌใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
11:12
- Well, you...
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-ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ‚ใชใŸ..
11:15
I've always had a book.
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็งใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ๆœฌใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
11:19
- Just leave it down.
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-ใใฎใพใพใซใ—ใฆใŠใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
11:21
- I've always had a lot of books,
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- ็งใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎๆœฌ
11:24
and had a really hard time getting rid of books.
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ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€ๆœฌใ‚’ๆจใฆใ‚‹ใฎใซใจใฆใ‚‚่‹ฆๅŠดใ—ใพใ— ใŸใ€‚
11:27
- Yes, and I go through phases as well thinking,
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- ใฏใ„ใ€็งใ‚‚ ๆฎต้šŽใ‚’็ตŒใฆใ€
11:31
"I should get digital books
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ใ€Œใ‚นใƒšใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ใจใ‚‰ใšใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚ŠใƒŸใƒ‹ใƒžใƒชใ‚นใƒˆใชใฎใงใ€ใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซใƒ–ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€ใจ่€ƒใˆ
11:32
because they don't take up space and it's more minimalist",
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ใฆใ„
11:35
but trying to reduce screen time, therefore...
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ใพใ™ใŒใ€็”ป้ขใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’็Ÿญ็ธฎใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™...
11:39
And I don't like...
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11:40
I prefer a proper book to read
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็งใฏใ€ใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซใฎๆœฌใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใ€ใใกใ‚“ใจใ—ใŸๆœฌใ‚’่ชญใ‚€ใปใ†ใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™
11:42
rather than a digital one.
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11:45
- Mm-hmm. - Yeah.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
11:46
- I got really hooked on digital books though.
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โ€•โ€•ใงใ‚‚ ใ€ใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซใƒ–ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใฏใพใฃใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
11:50
Especially when the kids were little.
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็‰นใซๅญไพ›ใŸใกใŒๅฐใ•ใ„้ ƒใ€‚
11:53
- Mmmm.
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- ใ‚“ใƒผใ€‚
11:54
- And they would fall asleep in my lap,
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใฎ่†ใฎไธŠใง็œ ใ‚Šใซ่ฝใก
11:55
and I couldn't really move,
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ใ€็งใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅ‹•ใใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‹ใ€
11:57
or I was taking care of them.
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็งใŒๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎไธ–่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ.
12:00
And so it was so easy to pull out my phone
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๅ‡บใ—ใฆๆœฌใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๅ‡บใ™ใฎใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็ฐกๅ˜
12:03
and pull up a book- - It wasn't easy.
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ใงใ—ใŸ--็ฐกๅ˜ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:04
- And just scroll like this
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- ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒญใƒผใƒซ
12:06
- Because with our first child,
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ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ - ็งใŸใกใฎๆœ€ๅˆใฎๅญไพ›ใจไธ€็ท’ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰
12:08
- Mm-hmm. - You only had a laptop.
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- ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใƒฉใƒƒใƒ—ใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—ใ—ใ‹ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:11
- That's true.
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- ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใ ใ€‚
12:12
- We didn't have phones.
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- ้›ป่ฉฑใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:13
- Oh my gosh, did I read on my laptop?
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- ใชใ‚“ใฆใ“ใฃใŸใ€ใƒฉใƒƒใƒ—ใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—ใง่ชญใ‚“ใ ใฎ๏ผŸ
12:15
- Yes.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€‚
12:16
- I've read them on my laptop.
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- ็งใฏใƒฉใƒƒใƒ—ใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—ใงใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’่ชญใฟใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:17
- Do you remember that?
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- ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
12:18
- So it must've been like balancing my laptop,
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- ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ ใ€็งใฎใƒฉใƒƒใƒ—ใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—ใจใƒˆใƒผใƒžใ‚นใจใฎใƒใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚’ใจใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†
12:20
and Thomas and...
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12:22
- Because we got a phone when I think Thomas was about one.
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ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใฃใŸใซ้•ใ„ใชใ„.
12:26
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
12:27
- Because it would just put it off, and put it off.
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- ๅ…ˆๅปถใฐใ—ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚
12:28
- Yeah, we didn't bother. - Because we knew this world.
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-ใˆใˆใ€ๆฐ—ใซใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ - ็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใฎไธ–็•Œใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:31
- We knew it was gonna take over, and it has.
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-็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚ŒใŒๅผ•ใ็ถ™ใŒใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃ ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:33
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
12:34
- And that's the podcast episode you can listen to.
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่žใใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใ™.
12:37
I'll leave a link in the description.
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่ชฌๆ˜Žใซใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ—ใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
12:38
Where I talk about social media, and phones,
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ใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซ ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใจ้›ป่ฉฑใซใคใ„ใฆใ€
12:41
and how they've taken over.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅผ•ใ็ถ™ใŒใ‚ŒใŸใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
12:43
And there's no going back.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๆˆปใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
12:45
There's no going button now.
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็พๅœจใ€็งปๅ‹•ใƒœใ‚ฟใƒณใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
12:46
- I don't know, that's a little bit...
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- ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฐ‘ใ—ใงใ™.
12:48
I mean, there's no completely going back,
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅฎŒๅ…จใซๅ…ƒใซๆˆปใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
12:50
but I think that there's a way
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12:52
to get some more healthy boundaries-
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ใŒใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅฅๅบท็š„ใชๅขƒ็•Œใ‚’ๅ–ๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹
12:54
- Yes, - Around using a phone.
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ๆ–นๆณ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™.
12:56
- But the trend is gonna be more and more.
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-ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใƒˆใƒฌใƒณใƒ‰ใฏใพใ™ใพใ™ๅข—ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
12:58
Like phones, wearables, voice, you know, everything else.
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้›ป่ฉฑใ€ใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚ขใƒฉใƒ–ใƒซใ€้Ÿณๅฃฐใชใฉใ€ ไป–ใฎใ™ในใฆใฎใ‚‚ใฎใจๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใ€‚
13:03
- Mm-hmm.
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13:03
- Face recognition.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
- ้ก”่ช่ญ˜ใ€‚
13:07
- I talked to someone today who gave me a phone number,
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- ไปŠๆ—ฅ้›ป่ฉฑ็•ชๅทใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚ŒใŸไบบใจ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใจใ“ใ‚
13:10
and she wrote it down on a scrap of paper
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ใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏ
13:12
because she didn't have a smartphone.
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ใ‚นใƒžใƒผใƒˆใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€็ด™ๅˆ‡ใ‚Œใซๆ›ธใ็•™ใ‚ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
13:14
- Oh, really?
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- ใพใ‚ใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ๏ผŸ
13:15
- Uh-huh, and that is so uncommon where we are.
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- ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ็งใŸใกใŒใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™.
13:18
- Well, it was uncommon when we didn't have them.
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-ใพใ‚ใ€ ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใใฏ็ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
13:21
- Yeah, like- - Everyone couldn't believe...
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใฟใŸใ„ใช - - ่ชฐใ‚‚ไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ‹ใฃใŸ... ่ชฐใ‚‚ไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„
13:23
No one can...
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...
13:24
- Everyone had a smartphone - Six years ago.
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- ่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใ‚นใƒžใƒผใƒˆใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸ - 6ๅนดๅ‰ใ€‚
13:25
- Uh-huh. - And we didn't, did we?.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ -ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใญ?.
13:27
- Yeah, and then we were so busy.
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-ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰็งใŸใกใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฟ™ใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
13:29
I didn't know how to use mine.
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็งใฎไฝฟใ„ๆ–นใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
13:30
(chuckles)
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(็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
13:32
I was teaching 13 year olds and 14 year olds.
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็งใฏ 13 ๆญณใจ 14 ๆญณใฎๅญไพ›ใŸใกใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
13:35
And I would make videos
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ใใ—ใฆ
13:37
of their class presentations, or assignments.
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ใ€ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚นใฎใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚ผใƒณใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณ ใ‚„่ชฒ้กŒใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:40
And they would have to show me how to use my phone.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ็งใฎ้›ป่ฉฑใฎไฝฟใ„ๆ–นใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
13:44
They told me like, "you can rotate your phone".
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใซใ€Œใ‚ใชใŸ ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚’ๅ›ž่ปขใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใ€‚
13:46
And I had no idea. I had no idea.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ็งใฏไปŠใพใง็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
13:48
- Yeah. - Mm-hmm.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
13:51
- So, anyway, so yeah, the books I got at the moment are
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- ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใˆใˆใ€ ็งใŒไปŠๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸๆœฌ
13:54
from thrift books, which are secondhand,
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ใฏๅคๆœฌใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ€ๅคๆœฌ
13:57
which I feel better about. (chuckles)
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ใงใ™ใ€‚ (็ฌ‘)
13:59
And I'm trying also clothes.
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ใใ—ใฆๆœใ‚‚่ฉฆใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:02
I tried to get them from eBay
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็งใ‚‚eBayใฎไธญๅคใงๅ…ฅๆ‰‹ใ—ใฆใฟใพใ—ใŸ
14:03
second hand too. - Oh yeah?
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ใ€‚ - ใใ†ใใ†๏ผŸ
14:04
- I try to buy second hand clothes.
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ใƒปๅค็€ใ‚’่ฒทใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:06
- Yeah, especially because...
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- ใˆใˆใ€็‰นใซ...
14:08
That's the thing, isn't it?
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ•้กŒใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ?
14:09
Because with clothes shopping, bored on online
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ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง้€€ๅฑˆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆœใฎ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใงใฏใ€
14:13
you don't know if it's gonna fit you.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ่‡ชๅˆ†ใซๅˆใ†ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™.
14:14
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
14:15
- And I think they'd know that a certain percentage
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒใ€ไธปใซ็งใŸใก ใ‚‚ใ€ๆ—ฅไป˜ใ‚’้€ƒใ—ใŸใŸใ‚ใซใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ‰ฒๅˆ
14:18
of people, or a certain percentage of orders,
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ใฎไบบใ€ใพใŸใฏ็‰นๅฎš ใฎๆณจๆ–‡ใฎๅ‰ฒๅˆ
14:21
won't come back because people miss the date,
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ใŒๆˆปใฃใฆใ“ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„
14:23
mainly us, too - Yep.
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ใพใ™ -ใฏใ„ใ€‚
14:25
- We're not good at sending things back-
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- ็งใŸใกใฏ็‰ฉใ‚’้€ใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ™ใฎใŒ่‹ฆๆ‰‹ใงใ™
14:27
- No. - Are we?
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14:27
- Not at all.
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- - ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€‚ - ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
- ๅ…จใใชใ„ใ€‚
14:29
- But with eBay, if you know your size, you know the item,
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- ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€eBay ใงใฏใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใ‚ตใ‚คใ‚บใจๅ•†ๅ“ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆ
14:34
then you can go on eBay and save 50%.
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ใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ€eBay ใง 50% ็ฏ€็ด„ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
14:37
- Yeah. - True.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ็œŸๅฎŸใ€‚
14:38
- And then I want to talk about meal delivery services.
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- ใใ—ใฆใ€ ้ฃŸไบ‹ใฎๅฎ…้…ใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใซใคใ„ใฆใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:41
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
14:42
- Because I never thought, I would never ever thought
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- ่€ƒใˆใŸใ“ใจใŒใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใง
14:44
that this would have happened.
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ใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
14:46
(chuckles)
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(็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
14:47
Where you just get food delivered to your door.
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้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใŒ ใƒ‰ใ‚ขใซ้…้”ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:50
- Yeah. - We use a local company now.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ็พๅœจใฏๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎไผš็คพใ‚’ๅˆฉ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:54
- Uh-huh. - And-
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ -ใใ—ใฆ
14:55
- Called Mother Earth Produce.
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- - ใƒžใ‚ถใƒผใ‚ขใƒผใ‚นใƒ—ใƒญใƒ‡ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€‚
14:57
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
14:58
- Cure in the Asheville area. - Mm-hmm.
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- ใ‚ขใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใƒ“ใƒซใ‚จใƒชใ‚ขใงๆฒปใ™ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
14:59
- And they deliver from local produce companies,
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎ่พฒ็”ฃ็‰ฉไผš็คพใ‹ใ‚‰้…้”ใ•ใ‚Œ
15:03
and different...
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ใ€ใ•ใพใ–ใพใงใ™...
15:05
Like, you can get milk, you can get other things,
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€็‰›ไนณ ใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Šใ€ไป–ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Šใงใใพใ™
15:07
but mainly vegetables at the moment.
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ใŒใ€็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏไธปใซ้‡Ž่œใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™.
15:09
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
15:11
- But there's also nationwide ones
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-ใ—ใ‹ใ—
15:14
that are now doing very, very well.
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ใ€็พๅœจ้žๅธธใซใ†ใพใใ„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ…จๅ›ฝ็š„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
15:17
Meal delivery is huge.
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้ฃŸไบ‹ใฎ้…้”ใฏๅทจๅคงใงใ™ใ€‚
15:19
And also just ordering from a restaurant
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ใพใŸใ€ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใงใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใซๆณจๆ–‡ใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ใ€
15:21
on an app is so popular now.
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ไปŠใงใฏ้žๅธธใซไบบๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
15:24
- Oh yeah.
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- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚
15:25
And people have kind of like,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใช่ฒทใ„็‰ฉๅฎขใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„
15:28
there's a personal shopper.
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ใพใ™ใ€‚
15:31
Do you know what I'm talking about?
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็งใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
15:32
- So people- - For clothes?
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-ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ไบบ - -ๆœใฎ๏ผŸ
15:33
- Or for groceries.
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- ใพใŸใฏ้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใ€‚
15:34
- For groceries?
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- ้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“็”จใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
15:36
- As well. - Oh yeah, yeah.
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- ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€‚ - ใˆใˆใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚
15:37
That's massive.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅคง่ฆๆจกใงใ™ใ€‚
15:39
It's unbelievable.
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833
ไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
15:40
- That was very rare,
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-ใใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซใพใ‚Œใงใ—ใŸ
15:42
but for last year. - But that's what I was using.
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ใŒใ€ๆ˜จๅนดใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ -ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
15:43
- Uh-huh.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:44
And it used to be my little secret.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใฎๅฐใ•ใช็ง˜ๅฏ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
15:46
(chuckles)
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(็ฌ‘)
15:48
- I personally liked the experience
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- ็งใฏๅ€‹ไบบ็š„
15:50
of going grocery shopping.
421
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1460
ใซ้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใฎ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใซ่กŒใ็ตŒ้จ“ใŒๅฅฝใใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
15:51
I like to look at the tomatoes.
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ใƒˆใƒžใƒˆใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
15:53
I like to smell them. - Mm-hmm.
423
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ๅ—…ใใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
15:55
- I like to... (chuckles)
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- ็งใฏ... (็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
15:56
- I mean, not too much, but you know, enough,
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- ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅคšใใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›
15:58
waft, waft them, you know, pick them up and look at them.
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ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:03
Find the best ones.
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ๆœ€้ซ˜ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
16:04
- No wonder you take so long. - I can have, like...
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- ใ“ใ‚“ใชใซๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚‚ไธๆ€่ญฐใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ -
16:06
I know, I go into the grocery store and it's like,
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้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ๅบ—ใซ่กŒใใจใ€
16:08
I'm going into like hunting, and gathering mode.
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็‹ฉใ‚Šใ‚„ๆŽก้›†ใƒขใƒผใƒ‰ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
16:12
- Mm-hmm.
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16:12
- Like I'm completely in the zone.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
- ็งใฏๅฎŒๅ…จใซใ‚พใƒผใƒณใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€‚
16:17
- Yeah, I think we're different now
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-ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏ
16:18
because I just like to know what I want.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใ ใ‘ใชใฎใงใ€ไปŠใฏ้•ใ†ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™.
16:21
Have the list already done. - Mm-hmm.
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ใƒชใ‚นใƒˆใฏใ™ใงใซไฝœๆˆๆธˆใฟใงใ™ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
16:23
- And just go da, da, da, da, da, da.
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ใŸใ ่กŒใใ€ใ ใ€ใ ใ€ใ ใ€ใ ใ€ใ ใ€ใ ใ€‚
16:24
It takes like three minutes.
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3ๅˆ†ใใ‚‰ใ„ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
16:27
- That's nice. - Yeah, it is nice.
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- ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚ - ใˆใˆใ€ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
16:28
- Yeah. - Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:29
- I don't know, I have like a map of the grocery store
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- ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€้ ญใฎไธญใซ ้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ๅบ—ใฎๅœฐๅ›ณใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎ
16:32
in my head though. - Mm-hmm.
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ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
16:34
And so, you know, I could probably go grocery shopping
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๅฏใฆใ„ใ‚‹้–“ใซ ้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใฎ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใซ่กŒใ‘ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
16:37
in my sleep. - Mm-hmm.
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ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
16:39
- Except Trader Joe's, changes it up a lot.
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- Trader Joe's ใ‚’้™คใ„ ใฆใ€ๅคงๅน…ใซๅค‰ๆ›ดใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:42
- Do they? - Mm-hmm.
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- ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ๏ผŸ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
16:43
- Oh, they do quite often, don't they?
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- ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚
16:44
- Mm-hmm.
447
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
16:45
- I don't like it when they change it up.
448
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1997
- ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใจใใ€็งใฏใใ‚ŒใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“.
16:47
- I've started to crave that excitement.
449
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1830
-็งใฏใใฎ่ˆˆๅฅฎใ‚’ๅˆ‡ๆœ›ใ—ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
16:49
I used to highly dislike it, and they haven't-
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็งใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใจใฆใ‚‚ๅซŒใ„ ใงใ—ใŸใ€ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ-
16:52
(chuckles) - Crave that excitement.
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(็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ) - ใใฎ่ˆˆๅฅฎใ‚’ๅˆ‡ๆœ›ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“.
16:53
- I know, I'm also a little bit addicted to Trader Joe's.
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- ็งใ‚‚ Trader Joe'sใซใฏใพใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:58
The grocery store. - Yeah.
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้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ๅบ—ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:59
- I used to resist it.
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2540
-ไปฅๅ‰ใฏๆŠตๆŠ—ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐ
17:01
They would come out with like,
455
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1580
ใ€
17:03
they would take away my favorite pasta, for example, and put
456
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3450
ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใฎใŠๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใฎใƒ‘ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚ŠไธŠใ’
17:06
out a new one, and I would be so disappointed and upset.
457
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3950
ใฆใ€ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ ใƒ‘ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚’ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
17:10
But now I'm like, "oh, what kind of pasta do we have now?"
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ใงใ‚‚ไปŠใฏใ€ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ไปŠใฉใ‚“ใช ใƒ‘ใ‚นใ‚ฟใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸใ€ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:14
- Mm-hmm. - Like...
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ.
17:15
I get really excited about that.
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่ˆˆๅฅฎใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™.
17:18
- Yeah, good.
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
17:21
Well, yeah, I prefer just to do it online
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3190
ใˆใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€็งใฏใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ„ใ€
17:24
and then also get the meat from the local farm here.
463
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ใ“ใ“ใงๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎ่พฒๅ ดใ‹ใ‚‰่‚‰ใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฅฝใฟใพใ™.
17:29
- Mm-hmm. - And they...
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1840
-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ -ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰...
17:31
I used to like go into the store
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็งใฏๅบ—ใซ่กŒใใฎใŒๅฅฝใ
17:32
but now they're doing the whole,
466
1052440
1990
ใงใ—ใŸใŒใ€ไปŠใงใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใ™ในใฆใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใฆ
17:34
wait in your car,
467
1054430
1250
ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่ปŠใงๅพ…ใฃใฆ
17:35
do the order the day before,
468
1055680
1760
ใ„ใฆใ€ๅ‰ๆ—ฅใซๆณจๆ–‡
17:37
and they'll just put it in your trunk,
469
1057440
1860
ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
17:39
but you have to go to the...
470
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1330
ใซ่กŒใ...
17:40
And they do delivery too, yeah.
471
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2943
ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ้…้”ใ‚‚ใ—ใพใ™ใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚
17:44
- Now- - Go on, you've got something,
472
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833
-ใ•ใฆ- -็ถšใ‘ ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€
17:45
- Yeah. - you got...
473
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833
-ใˆใˆใ€‚ - ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ...
17:46
- Well, I have a question. - Uh-huh.
474
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- ่ณชๅ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
17:47
- Because one thing about online shopping,
475
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2943
- ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใซใคใ„ใฆใฎ 1 ใคใฎใ“ใจ
17:51
are subscriptions. - Mm-hmm.
476
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2330
ใฏใ€ใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใงใ™ใ€‚ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
17:54
- So a lot of times when you are buying something
477
1074310
3700
- ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ๅคšใใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€
17:58
you're not just buying one item.
478
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1 ใคใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ†ใƒ ใ ใ‘ใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐ
18:00
A very common business model for online shopping,
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ใฎ้žๅธธใซไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚น ใƒขใƒ‡ใƒซ
18:04
is that the stores have you get a subscription
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ใฏใ€
18:07
where every single month, or week,
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ๆฏŽๆœˆใ€ๆฏŽ้€ฑใ€
18:09
or after a period of time, maybe a season.
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ใพใŸใฏไธ€ๅฎšๆœŸ้–“ๅพŒใ€ๅ ดๅˆใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆใฏใ‚ทใƒผใ‚บใƒณใ”ใจใซใ€ใ‚นใƒˆใ‚ขใงใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ๅ–ๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
18:13
- Yep.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€‚
18:14
- You get a new item delivered.
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- ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅ•†ๅ“ใŒๅฑŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
18:17
- Yeah, they're doing this for...
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- ใˆใˆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹...ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
18:18
I mean Wine clubs are really popular now.
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ใƒฏใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ–ใฏไปŠใจใฆใ‚‚ไบบๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™.
18:21
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
18:23
- Yeah, our friend just started one.
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-ใˆใˆใ€็งใŸใกใฎๅ‹ไบบใŒๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
18:25
So, check it out in the description.
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ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ€่ชฌๆ˜Žๆ–‡ใง็ขบ่ชใ€‚
18:27
We'll leave a link to it.
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ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ—ใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
18:28
And they do other things too.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไป–ใฎใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:31
- What? (chuckles)
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- ไฝ•๏ผŸ (็ฌ‘ใ„)
18:32
- I just...
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18:32
- Oh, he's fine, he's just fine.
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- ็งใฏใŸใ ...
- ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ๅฝผใฏๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ€ๅฝผใฏๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ€‚
18:35
- So, the Wine clubs,
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- ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ€ใƒฏใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ–ใงใ™ใŒใ€
18:36
yet subscription is for everything, like meat.
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ใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฏ ่‚‰ใชใฉใ€ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใซ้ฉ็”จใ•ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
18:41
There's a big one for me as well.
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็งใซใจใฃใฆใ‚‚ๅคงใใชใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
18:42
I think it's called Butcher Box.
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ใƒ–ใƒƒใƒใƒฃใƒผใƒœใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใจใ„ใ†ๅๅ‰ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:45
There is, oh you go on, couldn't you?
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ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
18:48
I'm struggling for examples.
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็งใฏไพ‹ใฎใŸใ‚ใซ่‹ฆๅŠดใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:50
- Okay, so there's anything that you want.
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-ใ•ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆœ›ใ‚€ใ‚‚ใฎใฏไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
18:54
There's book
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18:54
of the month club. - Tea
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ไปŠๆœˆใฎ
ๆœฌใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ–ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ - ใŠ่Œถ
18:56
- There's tea.
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- ใŠ่ŒถใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
18:57
- There's chocolate. - Coffee.
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- ใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ - ใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ€‚
18:58
- Coffee.
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- ใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ€‚
19:01
Yeah, and just buying a product,
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ใˆใˆใ€ใใ—ใฆๅ•†ๅ“ใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘
19:05
like if you buy it through a store,
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ใงใ€ๅบ—่ˆ—ใง่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
19:07
a lot of times they'll have it in
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ใ€ๅคšใใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€่‡ชๅ‹•ๅฎšๆœŸๆ”ฏๆ‰•ใ„ใจใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™
19:09
as an automatic recurring payment.
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.
19:11
- Yeah. - For awhile I was trying,
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใใฎ้–“ใ€
19:14
like a... Not a sleeping pill,
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็ก็œ ่–ฌใงใฏใชใใ€็ก็œ ใฎ
19:16
but like a vitamin for sleeping.
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ใŸใ‚ใฎใƒ“ใ‚ฟใƒŸใƒณใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฉฆใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
19:18
- Mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
19:20
- And so they put me on a monthly subscription.
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็ง ใ‚’ๆฏŽๆœˆใฎใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
19:22
- Oh yeah. They're expensive too,
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- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚‚้ซ˜ไพก
19:25
aren't they?
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ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
19:26
- Oh yeah, most of the things like they really sell you
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-ใใ†ใใ†ใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่ฃฝๅ“ใงใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๅฃฒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใฎใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฏ
19:29
on the product, you really believe in the product.
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ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ ่ฃฝๅ“ใ‚’ไฟกใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™.
19:32
They do have really good marketing.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‰ฏใ„ใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
19:34
You see somebody on Instagram and they were so happy.
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Instagramใง่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆ ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๅนธใ›ใงใ—ใŸ.
19:38
- Yeah. - They're endorsing it.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ -ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ”ฏๆŒใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
19:40
And you click subscribe - Yeah.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€่ณผ่ชญใ‚’ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใพใ™ - ใˆใˆใ€‚
19:43
- And then six months later,
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- ใใ—ใฆใ€6ใƒถๆœˆๅพŒ
19:45
(chuckles)
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(็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
19:46
- Yeah, it happens. - You have to try
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ -
19:47
to figure out how to unsubscribe.
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่ณผ่ชญใ‚’่งฃ้™คใ™ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’็†่งฃใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
19:49
- Yeah, I got rid of a lot of subscriptions recently.
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- ใˆใˆใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ€ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ ใฎใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ๅ‰Š้™คใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
19:51
And it's also happening with apps as well.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใงใ‚‚่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
19:55
So, entertainment, upstream and services.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚จใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ†ใ‚คใƒณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ€ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใ€ใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ€‚
19:58
It used to be just either you watch cable,
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ไปฅๅ‰ใฏใ€ใ‚ฑใƒผใƒ–ใƒซใพใŸใฏ่ก›ๆ˜Ÿใ‚’่ฆ–่ดใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘
20:02
or satellite.
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ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:05
What'd you call it here, satellite too?
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ใ“ใ“ใงใฏไฝ•ใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‹ใ€ใ‚ตใƒ†ใƒฉใ‚คใƒˆใ‚‚๏ผŸ
20:06
- I guess so.
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- ใŸใถใ‚“ใใ†ใ ใ€‚
20:07
- Yeah, and then Netflix was your stream in one.
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-ใˆใˆใ€ใใ—ใฆNetflix ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใ‚’1ใคใซใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:12
That was the only one.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:13
And then Amazon Prime, now Disney Plus,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€Amazon ใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ ใ€็พๅœจใฏใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚บใƒ‹ใƒผ ใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚นใ€
20:15
and everyone's doing it.
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ใใ—ใฆ่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใใ†ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:17
HBO. - Yeah.
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HBOใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:20
So many of them are just coming in now.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅคšใใฏไปŠๅ…ฅใฃใฆใใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
20:23
And then the issue...
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ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ•้กŒใŒโ€ฆ
20:24
And again, YouTube TV and different ones came in
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ใพใŸใ€YouTube TV ใ‚„ใใฎไป–ใฎใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ ใŒใ€
20:28
where you didn't have to have cable.
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ใ‚ฑใƒผใƒ–ใƒซใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฎใชใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ็™ปๅ ดใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:31
And cable used to be,
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ใ‚ฑใƒผใƒ–ใƒซใฏใ‹ใคใฆใ€
20:32
or it still is around like between 80 and $120.
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ใพใŸใฏไปŠ ใงใ‚‚ 80 ๏ฝž 120 ใƒ‰ใƒซ็จ‹ๅบฆใงใ™ใ€‚
20:37
And then you had these ones coming like,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ
20:39
with it, to choose which ones you want.
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ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆœ›ใ‚€ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’้ธใถใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใพใ—ใŸ.
20:41
Like quite about all right, price is up next month to 40.
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ใปใผๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใŒใ€ ไพกๆ ผใฏๆฅๆœˆ 40 ใซไธŠใŒใ‚Š
20:44
You know, it's still cheaper.
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ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใพใ ๅฎ‰ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
20:46
And then YouTube TV is like 65, 70 now.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€YouTube TV ใฏ็พๅœจ 65ใ€70 ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
20:49
- A month? - Yeah.
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- ๆœˆ๏ผŸ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:51
- Holy moly. - That's why I canceled it.
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- ใชใ‚“ใฆใ“ใฃใŸใ€‚ - ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใ‚ปใƒซใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:53
- How much are Netflix, or Amazon right now?
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- Netflixใ€ ใพใŸใฏ Amazon ใฏ็พๅœจใ„ใใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ‹?
20:55
- Well Netflix is the same as well.
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โ€•โ€•ใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒ•ใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
20:57
So Netflix went from, I think it was 10 to 15,
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€Netflix ใฏ 10 ใ‹ใ‚‰ 15ใ€10
21:01
10 to 20 for the one we were using.
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ใ‹ใ‚‰ 20 ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:05
But then I got on the lower service.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใฎๅพŒใ€็งใฏไธ‹ใฎใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใซไน—ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
21:08
Yeah, I feel like we're doing our admin here.
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ใˆใˆใ€็งใŸใกใฏ ใ“ใ“ใง็ฎก็†ใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:11
- I know, we're like, we're having a conversation
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- ็งใŸใกใฏใ€ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใ‚ปใƒซใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹
21:13
about all this subscriptions that we need to cancel.
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ใ“ใฎใ™ในใฆใฎใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ๅˆใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ ใ€‚
21:16
- But yeah, you talk to the families too.
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- ใงใ‚‚ใญใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅฎถๆ—ใจใ‚‚่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
21:18
And they're saying,
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ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€
21:19
"yeah, we're on all these subscriptions".
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ใ€Œใˆใˆใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใฎใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™.
21:20
And this is the thing, it's just,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒๅ•้กŒใงใ™ใ€‚ใŸใ ใ€
21:22
everything is subscription-based.
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ใ™ในใฆใŒใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใƒ™ใƒผใ‚นใงใ™ใ€‚
21:24
And they'll try and get you in,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใพใ™ใ€
21:26
and people think I've got to do it,
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ใใ—ใฆไบบใ€…ใฏ็งใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€
21:28
and it just becomes expensive.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚ŒใฏใŸใ ้ซ˜ไพกใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™.
21:31
And you can probably get rid of it all.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ในใฆๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
21:32
- I think we're always looking for shortcuts
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- ็งใŸใกใฏ็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ‚Š็ฐกๅ˜ใซใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๅธธใซ่ฟ‘้“ใ‚’ๆŽขใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
21:35
as people looking for things to be easier.
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.
21:39
And you know, and I think that's the appeal
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ใใ—ใฆ
21:42
of getting subscriptions, or these services
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ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณ ใ‚„ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ‚’ๅ–ๅพ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฎ้ญ…ๅŠ›ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
21:45
but it kind of takes away
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21:45
from the spontaneous feel of things,
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ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œ
ใฏ็‰ฉไบ‹ใฎ่‡ช็™บ็š„ใชๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใ‹ใ‚‰้›ขใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ„
21:49
you know? - Yeah, oh it does.
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ใพใ™ใญใ€‚ - ใˆใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:50
- And you don't think about every purchase.
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ™ในใฆใฎ่ณผๅ…ฅใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
21:53
You don't really like, you know, choose what movie to watch.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅฅฝใใงใฏใชใ„ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚’้ธใ‚“ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
21:57
For example, you're just like, "ah something"
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ€ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™
22:00
- Yeah. - You know.
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- ใˆใˆใ€‚ - ใปใ‚‰ใ€‚
22:01
- That's the other thing.
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-ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
22:02
If I'm online food shopping and something's on offer
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€็งใŒใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใฎ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใฆ ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๆไพ›ใ•ใ‚Œ
22:05
I will get 10 of it, whatever it is,
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ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใ€10 ๅ€‹่ณผๅ…ฅ
22:09
for example. - That's probably smart.
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22:09
- But then I go to the shop
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ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ - ใใ‚ŒใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใ่ณขใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
- ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใŠๅบ—ใซ่กŒใฃ
22:11
and there putting 10 in your cart
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ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ซใƒผใƒˆใซ 10 ๅ€‹ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎ
22:14
feels a little bit too much. - Yeah,
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ใฏใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ‚„ใ‚Š้ŽใŽใŸๆฐ—ใŒใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ - ใˆใˆใ€
22:16
- Do you know what I mean? - Oh, I know what you mean.
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- ็งใฎ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใŒๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹? -ใ‚ใ‚ใ€็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:18
- Yeah. - Uh-huh.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
22:19
- You know what I mean?
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22:19
- I know, I always like, so probably my biggest advice-
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- ็งใฎ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
-็งใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ๅฅฝใใชใฎใงใ€ ใŠใใ‚‰ใ็งใฎๆœ€ๅคงใฎใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒใ‚คใ‚น
22:25
- Sorry, I'll just say I would never go
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--็”ณใ—่จณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใฏ
22:27
to a store and spend that much money on a cap.
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ๅบ— ใซ่กŒใฃใฆใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใƒ—ใซใใ‚ŒใปใฉๅคšใใฎใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’่ฒปใ‚„ใ™ใ“ใจใฏๆฑบใ—ใฆใชใ„ใจใ ใ‘่จ€ใ„ใพใ™.
22:31
(chuckles) Seriously though.
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(็ฌ‘) ใพใ˜ใ‚ใ ใ‘ใฉใ€‚
22:32
I would never go to a store, - The hat.
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็งใฏๅบ—ใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ - ๅธฝๅญใ€‚
22:34
- See a cap, and think, - Uh-huh.
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- ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ€่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ - ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
22:36
- I'm gonna buy that for that price.
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- ็งใฏใใฎๅ€คๆฎตใงใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฒทใ†ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
22:37
- Oh man, when you see it, it'll be like,
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โ€•โ€•ใ„ใ‚„ใใ€่ฆ‹ใŸใ‚‰
22:40
"ooooh". - Yeah?
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ใ€ŒใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠ๏ผใ€ - ใ†ใ‚“๏ผŸ
22:41
I better change my life.
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ไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใŸๆ–นใŒใ„ใ„ใ€‚
22:42
- I mean, I think it's definitely
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- ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
22:44
gonna change your life hopefully in a positive way.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’่‰ฏใ„ๆ–นๅ‘ใซๅค‰ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
22:47
- Yeah, maybe you'll just send me
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-ใˆใˆใ€ๅคšๅˆ†ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ็ง
22:50
into a different personality, and...
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ใ‚’ๅˆฅใฎไบบๆ ผใซ้€ใ‚Š่พผใ‚€ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€ใใ—ใฆ...
22:52
- There you go. - Yeah, negatively.
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-ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ -ใˆใˆใ€ๅฆๅฎš็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚
22:55
(both chuckles)
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(ไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใ„)
22:57
- The cap that turns Jack evil.
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- ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ๆ‚ช่€…ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใƒ—ใ€‚
22:59
- I'm gonna annoy everybody.
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- ใฟใ‚“ใชใซ่ฟทๆƒ‘ใ‹ใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚
23:01
- Be like, flushing these out, you know, wassup bro.
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- ใฟใŸใ„ใซใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ๆด—ใ„ๆตใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚
23:06
Wassup bro. - Not much bro, nice hat.
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ใƒฏใ‚ตใƒƒใƒ—ๅ…„่ฒดใ€‚ - ใ‚ใพใ‚Šไปฒ้–“ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ€็ด ๆ•ตใชๅธฝๅญใ€‚
23:10
- Yeah, just to go back to meal delivery,
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-ใˆใˆใ€้ฃŸไบ‹ใฎ้…้”ใซๆˆปใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ๆ˜จๅนดใฎ
23:13
we enjoyed that this time last year, didn't we?
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ใ“ใฎๆ™‚ๆœŸใฏๆฅฝใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸ ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
23:16
- Mm-hmm, well, I did. - That was pretty good.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ -ใใ‚Œใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š่‰ฏใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
23:18
- I think I might've mentioned - I enjoyed it, too.
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- ็งใ‚‚่จ€ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ - ็งใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
23:19
- That in the last...
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- ๆœ€ๅพŒใซ...
23:20
- Yeah. - Did you?
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- ใˆใˆใ€‚ - ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
23:21
- No, you were getting the meal delivery
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- ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ้ฃŸไบ‹ใฎ้…้”ใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒ
23:22
and I didn't want it, - Mm-hmm.
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ใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ . - ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
23:25
- But then you ended up cooking most evenings.
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- ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎๅคœใฏๆ–™็†ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใญ ใ€‚
23:28
So I was happy about that and it turned out fine
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใใฆ ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ†ใพใใ„ใใพใ—ใŸ
23:32
- But the problem was that I was a little stressed
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-ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅ•้กŒใฏใ€ ็งใŒๆ˜จๅนดๅฐ‘ใ—ใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸ
23:36
out last year, - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
23:38
- Everything was shutting down.
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- ใ™ในใฆใŒใ‚ทใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:39
I didn't know what was gonna happen.
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23:41
I mean, nobody did, right? - Yeah.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€่ชฐใ‚‚ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
23:43
And so when I got the meal delivery service,
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ ้ฃŸไบ‹ใฎๅฎ…้…ใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ‚’ๅˆฉ็”จใ—ใŸใจใใ€
23:48
I didn't get just one.
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1ใคใ ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:51
I got like several and...
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23:53
- Yeah, oh you got all those veggies, too.
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ้‡Ž่œใ‚’ใ™ในใฆๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:57
Yeah, and I, and I also had subscribed to Mother Earth,
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ใˆใˆใ€ใใ—ใฆ็งใ‚‚ใ€็ง
24:01
which we still love and use,
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ใŸใกใŒไปŠใงใ‚‚ๆ„›็”จใ—ใฆไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹Mother Earthใ‚’่ณผ่ชญใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
24:04
but also like a different vegetable subscription.
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ใŒใ€ๅˆฅใฎ ้‡Ž่œใฎ่ณผ่ชญใ‚‚ๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
24:07
- Mm-hmm. - Yeah, it was bad.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆ‚ชใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
24:09
- I also got like, 350 pounds of meat.
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- 350ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใฎ่‚‰ใ‚‚ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
24:12
- Yep. - Which was amazing.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€‚ -ใ™ใ”ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
24:13
It was on super sale.
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ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚ปใƒผใƒซไธญใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
24:16
Because what happened was...
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ไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใจ
24:17
Because all the restaurants closed down,
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... ใ™ในใฆใฎใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใŒ้–‰้Ž–ใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใŸใ‚
24:19
the local farms lost all there orders.
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ใ€ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎ่พฒๅ ดใฏใ™ในใฆใฎๆณจๆ–‡ใ‚’ๅคฑใ„ใพใ—ใŸ.
24:24
So they said,
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24:24
"look we've got all this meat that we have to get rid of".
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ใใ‚Œใงๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€
ใ€Œ็งใŸใกใŒๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„่‚‰ใ‚’ใ™ในใฆๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
24:26
It's 60, 70% off. - Yeah.
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60ใ€70% ใ‚ชใƒ•ใงใ™ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
24:30
- And I was like, pop, pop, pop, pop.
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-ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ—ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ—ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ—ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒ—ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
24:31
And it was the same with beer,
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ใƒ“ใƒผใƒซใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใงใ—ใŸ
24:32
- Oh yeah. - All delivered, right?
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ใ€‚ -ใ™ในใฆ้…้”ใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
24:35
It was 25 cents a can.
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1็ผถ25ใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
24:36
- Yeah, and for like really-
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใใ—ใฆๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ
24:39
- Free delivery.
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24:39
- Really, you know, good craft beer.
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- - ้€ๆ–™็„กๆ–™ใ€‚
- ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ€ใ„ใ„ใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ•ใƒˆใƒ“ใƒผใƒซใงใ™ใญใ€‚
24:42
- Oh yeah, local craft beer.
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-ใใ†ใใ†ใ€ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ•ใƒˆใƒ“ใƒผใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚
24:43
- And you know, they'd just been in production,
651
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-ใใ—ใฆใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ ใฏ็”Ÿ็”ฃใ‚’้–‹ๅง‹ใ—ใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Š
24:47
and had all of these cases and cases,
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24:49
and cases of beer.
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24:50
- Again, because restaurants closed down.
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- ็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใŒ้–‰้Ž–ใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใŸใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
24:52
- Mm-hmm, yeah.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚
24:53
- I think we did quite well at that time, actually.
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- ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Šใ†ใพใใ‚„ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
24:56
- I mean, it was a strange time,
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-ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชๆ™‚ๆœŸใงใ—ใŸใŒใ€
24:59
but there were some silver linings to it.
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ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๅธŒๆœ›ใฎๅ…‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ.
25:01
- Yeah, but I think a good summary here is that,
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ ใ“ใ“ใงใฎ่‰ฏใ„่ฆ็ด„ใฏใ€
25:06
subscriptions and online shopping, you know,
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ใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใจ
25:08
and it's obviously, like we can, if we have some type
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25:13
of disposable income to afford that kind of thing.
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ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใงใ™.
25:16
But at the same time,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ๅŒๆ™‚ใซใ€
25:18
it can take over and before you know,
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ใใ‚Œใฏไน—ใฃๅ–ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
25:19
it's like a creep.
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ใ€ใ„ใคใฎ้–“ใซใ‹ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒผใƒ—ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
25:21
And it's not just us.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกใ ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
25:22
I know of the people talk about this all the time,
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ไบบใ€…ใŒใ„ใคใ‚‚ใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
25:25
but it seems like there is this trend now toward...
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็พๅœจใ€ใ“ใฎๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™...
25:29
Just as a little bit of a tangent,
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ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆŽฅ็ทšใงใ™
25:31
but I remember reading that a lot of millennials
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ใŒ ใ€ๅคšใใฎใƒŸใƒฌใƒ‹ใ‚ขใƒซไธ–ไปฃ
25:33
weren't getting cars because their expenses now,
671
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ใŒ่ปŠใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใ  ใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ฒป็”จใฏไปŠ
25:39
are of the things.
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ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
25:41
The mobile phone, it's like a hundred dollars a month.
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ๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใฏ ใ€ๆœˆใซ100ใƒ‰ใƒซใใ‚‰ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
25:45
Then internet service.
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ๆฌกใซใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ€‚
25:48
- So they can't afford cars,
675
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-ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ่ปŠใ‚’่ฒทใ†ไฝ™่ฃ•ใŒ
25:50
or it's not part of the lifestyle?
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ใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ•ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹?
25:55
- In terms of, if they can afford or not,
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-ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒไฝ™่ฃ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏใ€ไบˆ็ฎ—ใ‚’็ซ‹ใฆใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰
25:56
it's not a priority over the other stuff
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ใชใ„ไป–ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๅ„ชๅ…ˆไบ‹้ …ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
25:59
that they would have to budget for.
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.
26:01
- Oh yeah. - Does that make sense?
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- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚ - ใใ‚Œใฏ็†ใซใ‹ใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
26:03
- It does.
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- ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:04
- And obviously people are living
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-ใใ—ใฆๆ˜Žใ‚‰ใ‹ใซใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ
26:05
in cities where they can get around
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็งปๅ‹•ใงใใ‚‹้ƒฝๅธ‚ใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„
26:07
which is my latest podcast episode.
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ใพใ™.ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็งใฎๆœ€ๆ–ฐใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใ™.
26:10
- Oh yeah.
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833
- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚
26:11
- Talks about sidewalks, lack of sidewalks in the US.
686
1571093
1947
- ๆญฉ้“ใ€็ฑณๅ›ฝใฎๆญฉ้“ใฎๆฌ ๅฆ‚ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:13
- We used to not have a car.
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- ็งใŸใกใฏ่ปŠใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
26:16
- No, I love to walk in every...
688
1576450
1990
- ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€็งใฏใ™ในใฆใฎๆ•ฃๆญฉใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™...
26:18
This is what I was saying, it's what I miss.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒ ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
26:20
You walk everywhere.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใฉใ“ใงใ‚‚ๆญฉใใพใ™ใ€‚
26:22
In Spain when we were taking groceries
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1980
ใ‚นใƒšใ‚คใƒณใง้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใ‚’่ฒทใฃ
26:24
up seven flights of stairs.
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ใฆ 7 ๆฎตใฎ้šŽๆฎตใ‚’ไธŠใฃใฆใ„ใŸๆ™‚ใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
26:27
And water, because you couldn't drink the tap water.
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ใใ—ใฆ ใ€ๆฐด้“ๆฐดใŒ้ฃฒใ‚ใชใ„ใฎใงๆฐดใ€‚
26:29
- Oh yeah.
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833
- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚
26:30
- Or at least people said we couldn't.
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- ใพใŸใฏใ€ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ไบบใ€…ใฏ็งใŸใกใŒใงใใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸ.
26:31
- I mean, I trust them.
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-ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‚’ไฟก้ ผใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:33
(chuckles) - Yeah.
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(็ฌ‘ใ„) - ใˆใˆใ€‚
26:34
- Whenever somebody says don't drink the water.
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- ่ชฐใ‹ใŒๆฐดใ‚’้ฃฒใ‚€ใชใจ่จ€ใ†ใจใใฏใ„ใคใงใ‚‚ ใ€‚
26:37
I think it's usually a good policy.
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ๆ™ฎ้€šใซ่‰ฏใ„ๆ”ฟ็ญ–ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:41
- Remember what I told you that when we came on holiday
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- ็งใŸใกใŒไผ‘ๆš‡ใงใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใซๆฅใŸใจใใ€็งใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซ่จ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™
26:45
to the US? - Mm-hmm.
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ใ‹? -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
26:47
- Everyone in the UK don't drink no water.
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- ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใงใฏ่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒๆฐดใ‚’้ฃฒใพใชใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
26:49
- They did. - Yeah.
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- ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใ‚„ใฃใŸใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
26:50
- Why?
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- ใฉใ†ใ—ใฆ๏ผŸ
26:52
- Well, they said that it's just not good for you, it's bad.
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-ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใซใจใฃใฆ่‰ฏใใชใ„ใ€ๆ‚ชใ„ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
26:56
I think every country I've been to on a holiday,
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็งใŒไผ‘ๆš‡ใง่จชใ‚Œ
27:01
it's like, "Oh, don't drink no water, it's bad water".
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ใŸๅ›ฝใฏใฉใ“ใ‚‚ใ€ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ๆฐดใ‚’้ฃฒใพใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ๆฐดใŒใพใšใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
27:04
Spain was one-
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ใ‚นใƒšใ‚คใƒณใฏ
27:07
- I mean that was Spanish people were talking like that.
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ใใฎไธ€ใคใงใ—ใŸ--ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚นใƒšใ‚คใƒณ ไบบใฏใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
27:09
- Do you ask? - Uh-huh.
710
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-ใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
27:12
- Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
27:13
- But I wouldn't say don't drink the water.
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- ใงใ‚‚ ใ€ๆฐดใ‚’้ฃฒใ‚€ใชใจใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
27:15
- The tap water.
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- ๆฐด้“ๆฐดใ€‚
27:16
- Uh-huh. - Yeah.
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
27:18
- Is that because of the flood?
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- ๆดชๆฐดใฎใ›ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
27:21
- Well back in the day, probably not.
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- ๆ˜”ใฏใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
27:23
But now it's probably a good reason not to.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ไปŠใงใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ† ใ—ใชใ„ๆญฃๅฝ“ใช็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
27:26
- I think Florida has been a part of city water
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-ใƒ•ใƒญใƒชใƒ€ใฏ ้•ทใ„้–“ใ€้ƒฝๅธ‚ใฎๆฐดใฎไธ€้ƒจใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
27:30
for that long.
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.
27:32
- Maybe that's why then.
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- ใŸใถใ‚“ใใ‚ŒใŒ็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
27:33
Because I don't think they put that in the tap water.
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็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฐด้“ๆฐดใซๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใจใฏๆ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
27:36
- They put fluoride, which is a mineral?
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- ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ้‰ฑ็‰ฉใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใƒ•ใƒƒๅŒ–็‰ฉใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ‹?
27:39
- A mineral.
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- ใƒŸใƒใƒฉใƒซใ€‚
27:41
- Mineral that, like strengthens your teeth,
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- ๆญฏใ‚’ๅผทใใ™ใ‚‹ใƒŸใƒใƒฉใƒซใงใ™
27:43
but in excess can have negative.
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ใŒใ€้Žๅ‰ฐใซๆ‘‚ๅ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใƒžใ‚คใƒŠใ‚นใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
27:46
- One also did, well, we're not gonna talk about it here,
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- 1 ใคใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใพใ‚ใ€ ใ“ใ“ใงใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™
27:51
but I prefer if they didn't put fluoride in the water.
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ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๆฐดใซใƒ•ใƒƒๅŒ–็‰ฉใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใชใ‹ใฃใŸๆ–นใŒใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ ใพใ™ใ€‚
27:54
- Mm-hmm. - Yeah.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
27:56
- But, online shopping.
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โ€•โ€•ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใ€‚
27:59
Yeah, I'll get my new cap, my new glasses.
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ใˆใˆใ€ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅธฝๅญใ€ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒกใ‚ฌใƒใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
28:02
And I'll do a nice little Instagram post for your all.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ™ในใฆใฎใŸใ‚ใซ็ด ๆ•ตใชๅฐใ•ใชInstagramใฎๆŠ•็จฟใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™.
28:05
- Your accent sounds particularly strong today.
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- ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆใฏ ็‰นใซๅผทใ่žใ“ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
28:08
- Is it? - Mm-hmm.
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- ใใ‚Œใฏ...ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ -ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
28:09
- Because I just had a coffee.
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- ใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ‚’้ฃฒใ‚“ใ ใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚
28:11
- Mm-hmm, it might be your cap.
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅธฝๅญใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
28:12
- Oh yeah, if people...
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- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€ไบบใชใ‚‰โ€ฆ
28:15
I gave up coffee this time last year.
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ๅŽปๅนดใฎไปŠ้ ƒใ€ใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
28:18
- Mm-hmm.
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28:18
- And I have succumbed to the caffeine again,
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-ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
- ใใ—ใฆใพใŸ ใ‚ซใƒ•ใ‚งใ‚คใƒณใซๅฑˆใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใ€
28:22
and I feel so much better.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ.
28:24
(chuckles)
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28:24
- No, don't go back.
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(็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
- ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๆˆปใ‚‰ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
28:26
- Two cups a day, maximum, won't have any more.
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- 1 ๆ—ฅๆœ€ๅคง 2 ๆฏใงใ€ ใ‚‚ใ†้ฃฒใฟใใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
28:28
- Oh no, it was a half a cup.
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-ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ๅŠใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
28:31
- Yeah, but when you make coffee in the morning
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-ใˆใˆใ€ ใงใ‚‚ๆœใซใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ‚’ๆทนใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจใใ€
28:34
you refuse to make me like a decaf or a half caff.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ็งใ‚’ใƒ‡ใ‚ซใƒ•ใ‚งใ‚„ใƒใƒผใƒ•ใ‚ซใƒ•ใ‚งใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ‹’ๅฆใ—ใพใ™ .
28:39
So, it depends...
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๅ ดๅˆใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹...
28:41
(both chuckles)
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(ไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใ„ๅฃฐ)
28:42
Because when I wake up but I'm like the half caff
749
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰็งใŒ็›ฎใ‚’่ฆšใพใ™ใจ ใ€ใƒใƒผใƒ•ใ‚ซใƒ•ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
28:47
then you always say like at work,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ไป•ไบ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
28:50
"wait a minute, why am I still tired?"
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ใ€Œใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅพ…ใฃใฆใ€ใชใœ็งใฏใพใ ็–ฒใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎ?ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™.
28:54
- "Why am I still asleep?"
752
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-ใ€Œใชใœ็งใฏใพใ ็œ ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€
28:57
- Cool, well, we'll end it there.
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-ใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใ€ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใง็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
28:59
- Okay.
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- ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
29:00
- Yeah, oh, yes.
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-ใˆใˆใ€ใˆใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
29:01
If you're here on YouTube...
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ YouTube ใซๆฅใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰...
29:05
This is both on YouTube and the podcast on Apple...
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ YouTube ใจ Apple ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎไธกๆ–นใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
29:09
I know. - What?
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... ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ - ไฝ•๏ผŸ ๅŒๆ™‚ใซไบบใ€…ใจ
29:10
So like talking to people at the same time.
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่ฉฑใ™ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎ ใงใ™ใ€‚
29:13
- Oh yeah.
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- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚
29:14
- So if you're on YouTube, then check out...
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- YouTube ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆ
29:15
Well, if you're anywhere, check out the description
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ใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ใƒใ‚งใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„... ใฉใ“ใซใงใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏ ใ€่ชฌๆ˜Žใ‚’ใƒใ‚งใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆ
29:17
cause I'll have links for you.
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ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
29:19
And we'll see if we can leave some key phrases
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ใพใŸใ€ ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ้‡่ฆใช
29:22
for you there as well, but we'll have links
765
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ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใ‚’ใใ“ใซๆฎ‹ใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒ
29:24
to the story about Amazon and that whole,
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ใ€Amazon ใจใใฎๅ…จไฝ“ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใธใฎใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
29:28
how they took over.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅผ•ใ็ถ™ใŒใ‚ŒใŸใ‹ใ‚’็คบใ—ใพใ™.
29:30
Links to our friend's subscription, you know,
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็งใŸใกใฎๅ‹ไบบใฎใ‚ตใƒ–ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใธใฎใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏ ใ€
29:33
and some other things in Asheville, Asheville Tea company.
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ใŠใ‚ˆใณ ใ‚ขใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใƒ“ใƒซใฎใ‚ขใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใƒ“ใƒซใฎ็ด…่Œถไผš็คพใฎไป–ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใธใฎใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏ.
29:37
- Yeah, well, I am also, you know,
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-ใˆใˆใ€ใพใ‚ใ€็งใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€
29:40
I hope that we weren't speaking too quickly.
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็งใŸใกใŒใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚ๆ—ฉใ่ฉฑใ•ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’้ก˜ใฃใฆใ„ ใพใ™ใ€‚
29:44
This time we've clearly had a lot of coffee and done a lot
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ไปŠๅ›žใฏๆ˜Žใ‚‰ใ‹ใซ ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ‚’้ฃฒใฟใ€ใŸใใ•ใ‚“
29:49
of online shopping, so we're really energized.
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ใฎใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’่กŒใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ€‚
29:53
- Yeah, well, and we don't spend that much time together.
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-ใˆใˆใ€ใพใ‚ใ€ ไธ€็ท’ใซ้Žใ”ใ™ๆ™‚้–“ใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
29:57
(both chuckles)
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(ไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใ„)
29:58
We're kind of excited about it.
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็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ่ˆˆๅฅฎใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
30:01
- Did you buy the cap?
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- ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใƒ—ใฏ่ฒทใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
30:03
- Yeah. - When's it coming?
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- ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ - ใ„ใคๆฅใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸ
30:04
- I don't know, I don't know.
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- ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ€ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ€‚
30:07
- Can I do a Kate's question?
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- ใ‚ฑใ‚คใƒˆใฎ่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹?
30:09
- Yeah, do a Kate's question.
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- ใˆใˆใ€ใ‚ฑใ‚คใƒˆใฎ่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
30:11
- So my question is,
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- ็งใฎ่ณชๅ•ใฏใ€
30:14
if you shop online,
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ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’
30:16
what makes you want to buy something?
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ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่ฒทใ„ใŸใใชใ‚‹็†็”ฑใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
30:22
- Yeah, I think also, I've think about if advertising works
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- ใˆใˆใ€ ๅบƒๅ‘Š
30:25
on you.
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ใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซๅŠนๆžœใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚่€ƒใˆใพใ—ใŸ.
30:26
- Well, that's kind of my question.
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-ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใฎ่ณชๅ•ใงใ™ใ€‚
30:28
Like, what makes you buy online?
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่ณผๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹็†็”ฑใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
30:31
What do you buy online?
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ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงไฝ•ใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
30:33
If anything.
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€‚
30:34
- And yeah, we asked the question
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- ใˆใˆใ€
30:35
before about Amazon as well.
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Amazon ใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚ไปฅๅ‰ใซ่ณชๅ•ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
30:37
- Oh yeah.
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- ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚
30:38
- But you can link it together.
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-ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ไธ€็ท’ใซใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
30:41
Yeah, if you're on YouTube, subscribe.
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ใฏใ„ใ€YouTube ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ใƒใƒฃใƒณใƒใƒซ็™ป้Œฒใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
30:42
If you're on Apple Podcasts,
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Apple Podcasts
30:43
or other podcast ones, then subscribe as well.
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ใพใŸใฏใใฎไป–ใฎ Podcast ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏ ใ€่ณผ่ชญใ‚‚่กŒใฃใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
30:47
You can subscribe.
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่ณผ่ชญใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
30:48
- Subscribe.
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- ็”ณใ—่พผใ‚€ใ€‚
30:49
- Leave a positive review as well
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- ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€่‚ฏๅฎš็š„ใชใƒฌใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ‚‚ๆฎ‹ใ—
30:51
if you have the time to do so.
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ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
30:54
Kate, have you done that yet on your Podcast app?
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ใ‚ฑใ‚คใƒˆใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใงใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚‚ใ†ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ‹?
30:58
- Not yet. - Not yet?
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- ใพใ ใ€‚ - ใพใ ๏ผŸ
30:59
- No. - Okay.
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- ใ„ใ„ใˆ - ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
31:01
Well Kate needs to go on it as well, but yeah,
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ใ‚ฑใ‚คใƒˆใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Š ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€
31:03
and share it with a friend.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ‹ไบบใจๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„.
31:04
Just share this episode with a friend
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ใ“ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’ๅ‹ไบบใจๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—
31:06
and we look forward to reading your comments.
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ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ใŠๅพ…ใกใ— ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:10
All right.
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31:10
Thank you for being here.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚
31:12
I'll speak to you soon.
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ใ™ใใซ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:13
Ba-bye.
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