How Millennials and Gen Z Can Invest in a Better Future | Miguel Goncalves | TED

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翻译人员: sylvia feng 校对人员: Yan Li Xiao
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In the coming decades,
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在接下来的几十年里,
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my generation of millennials and Gen Zers
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我们千禧一代和 Z 世代
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will inherit the largest amount of wealth humanity has ever created:
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将继承人类曾经创造过最多的财富:
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some 30 trillion dollars.
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约 30 万亿美元。
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That's a huge wallet.
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那是一个巨大的数目。
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Unluckily for us, we'll also inherit some huge issues:
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对我们来说不幸的是,我们也会继承 许多十分重大的问题:
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climate change, geopolitical instability,
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全球变暖,地缘政治不稳定,
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inequality.
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不平等。
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What we choose to do or not do with this enormous wallet
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我们用着我们巨大的财富 选择去做和不做的事情
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will define the future of our species.
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将会决定我们人类未来的命运。
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No pressure, folks.
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各位不要有压力。
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Why, might you ask, am I talking about my generation's wallet?
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你可能会问,为什么 我要讲述关于我们这一代的财富呢?
00:37
Well, the reason why is because I'm an investor,
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那是因为我是一个投资者,
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and the essence of my job is to allocate your savings to build a better future.
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我的工作的核心就是分配好 你的储蓄来建造一个更好的未来。
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Because I'm also a millennial
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因为我也是一个不太喜欢
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who doesn't particularly like losing sleep
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因为想到全球气温上升而失眠
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over the thought of rising global temperatures,
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的千禧一代,
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my job also requires me to think about what's good for society.
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我的工作使我思考什么对社会有益。
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And from where I sit,
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从我的认知出发,
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one of the keys to bettering the world is ESG investing.
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让世界变得更好的 十分重要的一点是 ESG 投资。
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ESG stands for environmental, social and governance.
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ESG 是环境、 社会及管治投资的缩写。
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Think of ESG as additional little pieces of data that some investors consider
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将 ESG 视为一些 投资者在分析风险,
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when analyzing the risks or opportunities of an investment.
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或投资机会时考虑的额外小数据。
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So, for example, a car company that starts selling more electric vehicles
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例如,一家汽车公司 开始销售更多的电动汽车,
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may be around longer in a future where we can't burn as many fossil fuels.
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那这个汽车公司可以存在的时间更长, 因为以后我们不能燃烧很多化石燃料。
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So an investor might consider that company
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所以一个投资者将会把这家公司视为
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to be a safer place to put your money.
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一个更稳定的投资的地方。
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In an ideal world, here's what ESG promises.
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在一个理想的世界里, 以下是 ESG 的承诺。
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It promises better investment returns
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它承诺更好的投资回报
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because money is invested in companies with sustainable practices,
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因为把钱投资于 有可持续的实践公司的,
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which makes them likelier to be around longer-term.
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可以使它更有可能长期存在。
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It promises business leaders who share more and better data
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它向会带来 更多更好的分享公司运营数据
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about what their companies are doing.
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的商业领袖承诺。
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It promises greater productivity
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它将通过将资金分配给与客户、 员工和供应商
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by allocating money to companies
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保持良好关系的企业
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that maintain strong relationships with customers, employees and suppliers.
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来提高效率和产率。
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That's the vision.
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这就是愿景。
02:05
The good news is that some people,
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好消息是有些人,
02:08
younger generations especially,
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尤其是年轻一代,
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have started buying into this vision.
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已经开始支持这个愿景。
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And ESG strategies have gained a ton of momentum over the past years.
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ESG 战略在过去几年里 获得了巨大的推动。
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That’s the good news. #happy.
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这是好消息。#开心。
02:21
The not so good news
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不太好的消息是
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is that we're still far away from achieving the full promises of ESG.
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我们距离实现 ESG 带来的全部好处还很远。
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Here's a sobering fact.
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这里有一个让人悲伤的消息。
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A recent survey from Kalon, a major investment consulting firm,
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大型投资咨询公司 Kalon 最近的一项调查显示,
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suggests that about half of institutional investors
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大约一半的机构投资者
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consider the benefits of ESG to be unclear or unproven.
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认为 ESG 的好处 尚不清楚或未经证实。
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In other words,
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换种说法就是,
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many of the people who will allocate millennials' and Gen Zers' money
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许多将为千禧一代和 z 一代 分配资金的人并不完全相信
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aren't fully convinced that ESG is relevant
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在决定将资金投向何处时,
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when deciding where to put your money.
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ESG 是重要的参考因素。
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Now, I think there are many reasons why this might be the case.
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我认为有很多原因 可以解释这种情况。
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For example, investors focused on short-term outcomes
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例如,关注短期结果的投资者
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might not necessarily know the best way to consider longer-term sustainability.
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可能并不一定知道考虑长期 可持续性的最佳方式。
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Or there may be a sense that companies can't do well and do good
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或者,可能会有一种感觉
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at the same time.
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公司不能同时做好和做的赞。
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Whatever the reason may be, this is a problem, folks.
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不管是出于什么原因, 这是一个巨大的问题。
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If the people running the investment strategies don't anticipate ESG will work,
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如果执行投资策略的人 不预期 ESG 会起作用,
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how can we achieve its full promises?
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我们如何实现它 的能带来的全部好处呢?
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The key word in all of this is “expect.”
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这里的关键词就是“期望”。
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Let me now tell you something I didn't fully appreciate
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现在让我告诉你一些 直到我开始从事金融工作
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until I started working in finance.
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才完全欣赏的事情。
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We'd all like to think that investment decisions are made with cold,
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我们都认为,投资决策是根据冰冷、 确凿的数据而来的,
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hard data and nothing else.
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它并不参杂其他的东西。
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But the truth is that investors are people and the economy is made of people.
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但事实是,投资者是人, 经济是由人组成的。
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Which means that, like it or not,
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这意味着,不管你喜不喜欢,
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a lot of what happens in financial markets
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金融市场上发生的很多事情
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comes down to psychology and expectations.
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都归结于心理和期望。
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And these expectations can be a force for good or bad.
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这些期望可以 是一种好的或坏的力量。
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John Maynard Keynes, one of the fathers of modern economics,
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现代经济学之父之一的 约翰•梅纳德•凯恩斯,
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once famously described how powerful expectations --
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曾有过一个著名的描述—
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or animal spirits, as he called them --
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强大的预期 (他称之为动物精神)—
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can play a powerful role in markets.
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可以在市场中发挥强大的作用。
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He also had a pretty sweet mustache.
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他还有一个很酷的胡子。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Anyway, I digress.
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不过,我跑题了
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The point is that I've seen the power of what expectations can do.
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重点是我看见过“预期”的力量, 和他可以做的事。
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And here's a firsthand example.
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我有一个第一手的例子。
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I'm from Venezuela,
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我来自委内瑞拉,
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and in the late twenty-teens,
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在 20 世纪 20 年代末,
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my home country experienced one of the worst periods of hyperinflation
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我的祖国经历了有史以来最严重
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ever recorded.
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的恶性通货膨胀时期之一。
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Now, there were many reasons why this hyperinflation took place
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恶性通货膨胀发生的原因有很多
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and I won't go into all of them here.
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在这里我就不一一讲了。
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But among those reasons was a concept called inflation expectations.
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但在这些原因中 有一个叫做通胀预期的概念。
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What inflation expectations basically means
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通胀预期的基本意思是,
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is that when people believe prices in the future will go up,
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当人们相信未来价格会上涨时,
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that belief, that animal spirit, can literally cause prices to rise today.
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这种信念,这种动物精神, 会导致价格上涨。
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Expectations create reality.
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期望创造现实。
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So coming back to ESG,
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所以回到 ESG,
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what Venezuela and Lord Keynes have taught me
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委内瑞拉和凯恩斯勋爵教会我的是,
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is that making ESG and sustainability mainstream
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让 ESG 和可持续发展成为主流,
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will require us to literally redefine society's expectations
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需要我们重新定义社会 对 ESG 是什么
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of what ESG is and what it can do.
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以及它能做什么的期望。
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That might sound like a tall order,
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这听起来可能有点难,
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but I think there's a few things you and I can do about it.
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但我觉得我们可以做一些事情。
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One solution investors are working on is to standardize ESG metrics.
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一个投资者正在研究的 解决方案是将 ESG 指标标准化。
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So for context, right now,
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所以现在就背景而言,
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there are lots of divergent opinions about what metrics matter most
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目前对于哪些指标最重要或最重要
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or are material.
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存在许多不同意见。
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And in the middle of this analysis paralysis,
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在这种分析瘫痪的过程中,
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because there's a million things we could be measuring,
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因为我们可以衡量的东西有一百万个,
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it's no surprise why some investors are skeptical.
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所以一些投资者持怀疑态度 也就不足为奇了。
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Standardizing ESG metrics is showing some promise already.
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标准化 ESG 指标 已经显示出一些希望。
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Instead of incentivizing investors to cherry-pick data
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他们没有鼓励投资者
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that makes companies look good,
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挑选那些让公司看起来不错的数据,
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they encourage us to measure what matters.
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而是鼓励我们衡量什么才是重要的。
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For example, data security is massively important for health care companies
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例如,数据安全对于医疗保健公司 来说非常重要,
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because patient safety and security are paramount.
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因为患者的安全是至关重要的。
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Although important,
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虽然重要,
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data security might not be as central a consideration
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数据安全可能
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for, say, a kitchen cabinet manufacturer.
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不是厨柜制造商考虑的重点。
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There's a cool Harvard Business School study that was released not too long ago,
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哈佛商学院不久前发布了 一项很酷的研究,
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and it found that companies that address material ESG issues
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该研究发现,能够面对并试图解决 重大 ESG 问题的公司的业绩
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can outperform companies that don't by as much as nine percent per year.
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比那些不解决 ESG 问题的公司高出 9%。
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That's good news.
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这是好消息。
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#cantstopwontstop.
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#没法停不想停。
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Here's a second solution.
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这里是第二个解决方法。
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Investors like me are working on literally changing the way
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像我这样的投资者正在努力改变
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we calculate financial forecasts.
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我们计算财务预测的方式。
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So right now, most investors use
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所以现在,大多数投资者使用
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financial models to make educated predictions
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财务模型对一家公司未来
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about what a company might do in the future
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可能做什么以及它能赚多少钱
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and how much money it's going to make.
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做出有根据的预测。
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Let's just say we also excel at making spreadsheets.
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我们说我们也擅长制作电子表格。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I'm so thrilled more than zero people laughed at that one.
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我很高兴居然有人 被这个笑话逗笑了。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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What if, though, what if,
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但是,如果,
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in addition to basic financial data,
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除了基本的财务数据,
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we built in other pieces of data into our models
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我们在我们的模型中加入其他的数据
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that are predictive of how much earnings a company is going to make?
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来预测一个公司将会赚多少钱呢?
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But beyond standardized ESG metrics
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但除了标准化的 ESG 指标
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or new ways of calculating financial forecasts,
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或计算财务预测的新方法之外,
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I think the third and most important thing we need is trust.
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我觉得第三点 和最重要的一点就是信任。
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If we trust and expect that companies that do good will be around longer,
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如果我们相信并期待 做好事的公司会存在得更久,
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we start to create a future where ESG becomes an indelible part of any company.
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我们将开创一个 ESG 成为所有 公司不可磨灭的一部分的一个未来。
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We start to create a future where sustainable companies
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我们开始创造 这样一个拥有可持续发展
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are less risky to own,
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的公司风险更低,
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and money managers believe in using the right data to make better decisions.
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基金经理相信使用 正确的数据来做出更好的决策。
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We start to create a world where you, the personal investor,
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我们开始创造一个世界, 在那里你,个人投资者,
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leverage the power of expectations to demand even more tools,
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利用期望的力量 来要获取更多的工具,
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even better metrics, and so on and so forth,
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更好的指标,等等,
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where trust in the system improves further.
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我们将对这套系统更加信任。
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Economists might call this a virtuous cycle.
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经济学家可能称之为良性循环。
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I sometimes call this
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我有时把它称作为为
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"the virtuous cycle of how to keep humanity alive
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“让人类在未来几个世纪 和亿万年中生存的良性循环,
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for centuries and eons to come, yay, awesome."
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耶,这太棒了。”
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But that might be a little too long.
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但那可能有点太长了。
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So for short,
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简而言之,
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let’s call it “the virtuous cycle of investing in the 21st century.”
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我们把它称作之为 “21 世纪投资的良性循环”吧。
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Because like it or not,
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因为不管你喜不喜欢,
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it represents the future of investing.
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它代表着投资的未来。
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If there’s one thing to take away from what I’ve been saying, it’s this:
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如果什么你们可以从我一直在说的话中 得到启发的,那就是:
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Fellow millennials and Gen Zers, start thinking about your assets today.
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千禧一代和z世代的同胞们,
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Start thinking about your savings.
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从今天开始考虑你的资产吧。 开始考虑你的储蓄。
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What might be passed down to you
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什么会被遗传给你,
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and how it can be used to build the world's future.
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以及如何用它来建设世界的未来。
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If you don't invest your own money,
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如果你自己不投资自己的钱,
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ask your fund manager what they plan to do with your assets,
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问问你的基金经理, 他们打算用你的钱做什么,
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what metrics they use and why.
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他们使用什么衡量标准, 并且为什么用这个衡量标准。
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Your pension funds, your 401k,
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你的养老基金,你的 401k,
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even the money in your savings or checking account,
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甚至你的储蓄或支票账户中的钱,
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all can be put to work
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都可以用来
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to create the virtuous cycle of investing in the 21st century.
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在 21 世纪创造投资的良性循环。
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And if this sounds like a pie in the sky idea right now,
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如果这听起来像是 一个空中馅饼的想法,
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think about Lord Keynes' mustache for a second
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想想凯恩斯勋爵的胡子,
09:06
and consider whether it's your expectations
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考虑一下你的期望
09:09
that may need changing.
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是否需要改变。
09:11
Thank you.
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谢谢。
09:12
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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