Hidden Connections That Transcend Borders and Defy Stereotypes | Aparna Bharadwaj | TED
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翻译人员: Jessie Jiang
校对人员: sylvia feng
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I've lived and worked in some
very diverse countries around the world.
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我在世界上一些非常不同
的国家生活和工作过。
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I was born in India,
but I grew up in Iran.
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我在印度出生,
但在伊朗长大。
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I remember I was about eight years old,
as a child in Iran,
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我记得在我8岁的时候,
还是个孩子,当时在伊朗,
00:16
with my family watching
the beautiful festival of Nowruz.
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和我的家人一起观赏极富魅力
的诺鲁兹节(伊朗新年)的庆祝。
00:21
Nowruz is celebrated usually at night
with families gathered around a bonfire.
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大家一般在晚上庆祝伊朗新年
和自己的家人一起围着篝火。
00:26
They share food. They sing songs.
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大家分享美食,唱唱歌。
00:29
Sometimes they even jump
over the fire for good luck.
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有时候还会跳过篝火
以求好运。
00:32
And I remember how deeply that reminded me
of another festival called Lohri,
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我记得那种场景就让我想起
另一个叫洛希的节日,
00:37
celebrated all the way over in India,
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整个印度都庆祝的节日,
00:39
also with families gathered
around a bonfire, sharing food,
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也是家人们围着篝火,
分享美食,
00:43
singing songs together.
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一起唱歌。
00:46
Even an eight-year-old child can tell
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即使只有8岁,我也能感受到
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how profoundly similar
those two events look
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这两个节日的相似之处这么多
00:51
in two sets of countries
that are culturally so different.
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而这两个国家的差异却是那么大。
00:56
Like a kind of hidden connection.
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像是种隐藏的联系。
00:59
As an adult, I’ve spent
20 years of my life
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成年之后,我花了20年时间
01:02
studying consumers all over the world.
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研究世界各地的消费者。
01:05
What they feel, what they believe in
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他们的感受,他们的信仰
01:08
and how they act upon those beliefs
when they buy things.
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以及购物时那些信念
会对他们有什么影响。
01:12
And of course, a big part of my job
is to truly understand
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当然了,我主要的工作就是去理解
01:16
the diversity that exists in the world.
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这个世界所存在的多样性。
01:19
But maybe because of my upbringing,
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可能是我出身的原因,
01:21
what truly fascinates me
is when we find these hidden connections,
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真正让我着迷的就是
当我们发现那些隐藏联系,
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these secret similarities between people
where you least expect them.
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那些往往被忽视的人与人之间
的隐藏的相似之处。
01:30
Today I want to share
some of that magic with you,
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今天我想和大家分享一些
奇妙的隐藏联系,
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bring you into my world.
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让大家看看我研究的世界。
01:34
And we are going to go
do some detective work
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我们会一起探索
01:36
on the world's consumers together.
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世界各国的消费者。
01:38
Stay with me, because I think
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好好听我说,因为我觉得
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there's a message of hope
in here for all of us.
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这里暗含了一条对我们
都有用的希望的信息。
01:46
Before we start, let's have a think
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开始之前呢,我们先想一下
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about how companies,
businesses are organized today,
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如今公司、商业活动
是依据什么组织的,
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how they operate today.
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是怎么运作的。
01:54
Most commonly, companies are organized
by regions, subregions.
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最常见的是,公司依据
区域、子区域来组织规划。
01:58
That's how supply chains,
organizations are set up.
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这是连锁公司,
组织机构建立的根据。
02:01
And if it's not geographies,
then it's some other thumb rule.
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如果不是根据地理划分,
那就是根据一些其他经验。
02:04
It could be linked
to some common historic period.
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可能是因为经历了共同的历史时期。
02:08
So, for example,
the Commonwealth countries.
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所以,比如说,
联邦国家。
02:11
It could be linked
to common religious roots.
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也可能是因为有相同的宗教起源。
02:14
For example, I've been a part
of a lot of discussions
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比如,我参与过很多有关
02:17
on the halal economy.
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清真经济的讨论。
02:18
It could be something, anything
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可能是一些,任何一种因素
02:20
that allows us to put the world
into neat little boxes,
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让我们把世界放进
一些整洁的小盒子里,
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neat little clusters, that explain
why people are similar or different.
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一些整洁的集群里,以此来解释
人们为何相似,又为何不同。
02:28
But I realized that
when you study the consumers
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但我意识到
当你去研究消费者
02:31
and when you go deep,
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研究的比较深入时,
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it's interesting how none of that applies.
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有趣的是,以上法则都不适用了。
02:35
How wrong some of that thinking can be.
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有的想法真的错的离谱。
02:38
Let me show you.
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我来带大家看看。
02:40
About a year ago,
a team of us set out to understand
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大约一年前,
我们的一组人试图搞清楚
02:44
how consumers exercise choice
around the world.
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消费者在世界范围内
是怎么做选择的。
02:47
In this process, we interacted
with over 40,000 consumers
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在这个过程中,我们与4万多名
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in 18 countries around the world.
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来自世界上18个国家
的消费者进行了互动。
02:54
We asked them many, many questions
about their mindsets to start with.
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首先,我们问了他们非常非常多
与他们思维模式有关的问题。
02:59
So, for example, your worldview,
your personal philosophy.
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比如,你的世界观,
你个人信奉的哲学。
03:02
Do you feel optimistic?
Do you have a love for technology?
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你是乐观主义吗?
你是否热衷科技?
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Do you care about peer approval?
Things like that.
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你在意同龄人的看法么?
类似这些问题。
03:09
But we also tried to study
some very specific consumer behavior.
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但我们也努力研究
一些特定的消费者行为。
03:13
So, for example, what do you look for
when you buy a snack
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比如,你买零食小吃
的时候会怎么选择?
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or you buy a beverage or luxury products?
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买饮品或者奢侈品的时候怎么选择?
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What needs are you trying to fulfill?
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你想满足的是哪方面需求?
03:22
As you can imagine,
there was a ton of data
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大家可以想象到,
对我们这些研究怪人来说
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for the geek insiders
to go crazy with, right?
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真是有一大堆的数据,对吧?
03:27
I love that type of data.
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我很热衷这些数据。
03:29
So anyway, we take all that data,
and we start to draw correlations.
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不管怎么说吧,我们把数据整合,
开始做关联图。
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We start running all these analyses.
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我们开始做各种分析。
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And we come up with this kind
of a proximity analysis.
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然后我们得出了这种
相似性分析图表。
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Quite simply, every green dot
represents people of a particular country.
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很简单,每个绿点代表着
某特定国家的人群。
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The closer the green dot is
to the map in the middle,
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绿点距离中间的国家地图越近,
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the more similar the mindsets are
for those two sets of countries.
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这两个国家的人
思维模式就越相似。
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And the further the dot from the map,
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距离国家地图越远的点,
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the more diverse the mindsets
for those countries.
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说明这些国家的人们
思维模式差异越大。
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It's as simple as that.
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就是这么简单。
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So of course, when you do this for the US,
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当然,拿美国来说的话,
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you can see that the Canadians,
the people of the UK and the Australians
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大家可以看到加拿大人,英国人
和澳大利亚人
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are very similar in mindsets
to the Americans.
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和美国人的思维模式很相似。
04:06
Now we had been studying
consumers for a long time
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目前我们研究消费者已经很长时间了
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and the whole team fully expected
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整个团队都很期待
04:12
that we were going to see
a lot of clusters come through,
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能看到很多的集群
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based on some of those thumb rules
that I talked about earlier.
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是基于刚刚讲过的那些经验和规则。
04:18
So imagine our surprise.
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所以可以想象到我们有多惊讶。
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We run this data
and we find very little clustering
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我们分析数据
然后发现几乎没有集群
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based on any of those thumb rules.
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是依据那些经验法则的
任何一条形成的。
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We didn't, for example,
find an Asian culture cluster.
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比如,我们没有发现亚洲文化集群。
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We didn't find a European cluster.
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也没有发现欧洲文化集群。
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Nothing like it.
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一点都不一样。
04:32
In fact, we found 90-percent correlation
between the Americans and the Australians.
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事实上,我们在美国人和
澳大利人身上发现了90%的相似。
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Two sets of people on the literal
opposite ends of the world.
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这可是世界上位于
相反两端的两个人群。
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Can you imagine that? How amazing is that?
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大家可以想象吗?
多令人震惊啊?
04:45
And this is a big deal, by the way,
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我想说,这可是件大事,
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because businesses, companies
operate, govern themselves,
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因为企业、公司的自行运作和管理,
04:51
entirely on the basis of these clusters
that we found didn't even exist.
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都完全是基于压根儿不存在的集群。
04:56
And believe me, we tested
a bunch of thumb rules.
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相信我,我们测试了
一堆经验法则。
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And the interesting part was
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有趣的是
05:00
that it was not as if
you can find new thumb rules
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并不是你能找到新的经验法则
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to replace the old ones that don't work.
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来取代无效的旧的经验法则。
05:05
The answer was
kind of technical, actually.
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答案事实上挺专业。
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It was: just don't do it.
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就是:别(按经验)做。
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Resist the urge to find any kind
of thumb rules to explain the world.
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不要去用任何经验法则
来解释世界上这些事。
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These are only propagating stereotypes.
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这都是些传播开来的模式化思想。
05:17
So then we said, OK,
if all these thumb rules don't work,
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那么我们说,好吧,
如果这些经验法则不能用,
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how do you make sense of all the diversity
that we see around us?
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我们怎么去理解身边的这些多样性?
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How do we put some patterns?
How do we understand it?
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我们该怎么建立模式?
我们怎么理解多样性?
05:27
So then we started to study the specific
consumer behavior I talked about.
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所以接着我们开始研究
刚刚我提到的特定的消费者行为。
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What do you look for
when you buy insurance?
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买保险的时候
你会考虑什么?
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What do you need when you buy beverages?
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买饮料的时候你需要的是什么?
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When you buy apparel, cars,
things like that?
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买衣服,车子,
还有其他东西的时候呢?
05:39
And here we found something
that was even more profound, I think.
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我想,我们发现了一些
意义更深刻的东西。
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Let me show you.
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我给大家展示一下。
05:45
So this time I'm using China
as the base market.
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这次我用中国作为基准市场。
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Again, as before,
green dots, overall mindsets.
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这次和刚才一样,
绿色的点,代表人群的思维模式。
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Now you can see immediately
when you see this chart
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现在大家可以从图表里立刻看出
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that the Chinese are such
a unique group of consumers.
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中国人是如此与众不同的
一个消费群体。
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The inner circle is empty.
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内部的一圈是空的。
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The second circle is also empty.
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第二圈也是空的。
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Then you start to see India, Mexico,
a couple of other markets.
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然后大家可以看到印度、墨西哥,
等其他的市场。
06:05
But the correlation shows
not a lot of similarity
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但是交互关系展示出的相似性并不多
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between the Chinese
and those group of customers.
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在中国和其他消费者群体之间。
06:11
So clearly, China stands apart.
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所以很明显,中国与众不同。
06:12
Very unique group of consumers.
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是非常独特的消费者群体。
06:14
But we notice Japan on the top left here.
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但我们注意左上方的日本。
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The Japanese are so diverse
from the Chinese.
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日本和中国是如此不同。
06:19
And yet I know so many businesses
that put Japan and China
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而据我所知很多企业都把日本和中国
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as neighboring countries
in the North Asia cluster.
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一同作为邻国
而放进亚洲北部集群里。
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That's so common.
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这种情况太常见了。
06:26
It's so wrong.
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但是这是错误的。
06:28
Anyway, I digress.
I get very excited with this stuff.
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不管怎么说,我有点偏题。
我对这种事总是感到兴奋。
06:30
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:32
So then, coming back to the point,
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那么,回到这一点,
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on top of it, we overlaid
these black dots.
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在绿点这一层上,
我们覆盖了黑色的点。
06:37
The black dots are now
the needs when you snack.
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这些黑点现在代表
买零食小吃时候的需求。
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So what motivates you
when you reach out for a snack?
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是什么让你想去吃零食小吃?
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That's the black dots.
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这些黑点就代表这个。
06:44
And when we did that and we studied it,
we found a hidden connection.
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我们那么做并且研究了一下,
并发现了隐藏的联系。
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I don't know if you can already see it,
but I'm going to circle it for you.
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不知道大家是不是已经看出来了,
但我要为各位圈出来。
06:52
We found that the Indonesians,
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我们发现印度尼西亚,
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the Saudi Arabians
and consumers of the UAE
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沙特阿拉伯和阿联酋的消费者
06:58
snack in very similar ways to the Chinese.
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和中国消费者吃零食小吃的
动机很相似。
07:02
Let's think about it for a second.
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我们思考一会。
07:04
These are Muslim countries.
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这些是穆斯林国家。
07:06
Very different culture,
very different background to the Chinese.
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文化和背景与中国完全不一样。
07:09
And yet they snack is similar ways.
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而他们吃零食的动机很相似。
07:12
How cool is that? Right?
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很有趣,不是吗?
07:14
And similar how?
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怎么相似呢?
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Well, for first,
in all of these countries,
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那么首先,在所有这些国家,
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snacking is a moment of social indulgence.
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吃零食是社交的一部分。
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It's something you do as a group.
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是一群人做的事。
07:24
So people snack in groups,
they share the snacks.
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大家一起吃,彼此分享零食小吃。
07:28
They often buy a hot snack that they
purchase from a hawker or a food court.
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大家通常从小商小贩或者美食街
买来热乎乎的小吃。
07:32
Somebody prepares it fresh for them.
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或其他人准备的现做的小吃。
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The quality is not guaranteed.
It's very important.
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质量可能没啥保证。
这很重要。
07:37
They snack in similar ways.
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他们吃零食小吃的方式很相似。
07:39
In contrast, the Americans,
over on the top left,
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相反,美国人,在左上方这里,
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snack very differently.
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吃零食小吃就完全不同。
07:44
Americans snack alone.
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美国人喜欢一个人。
07:46
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:48
They don't share their snacks.
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他们不做分享。
07:49
It's often at their desk in a package,
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通常是坐在桌边,
零食小吃在包装袋里,
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very different from
the rest of the countries.
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和其他这些国家非常不同。
07:57
Now I wonder, do the Chinese
and the Indonesians know
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那我很好奇,中国人和印尼人知道
08:00
that they snack similarly?
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他们吃零食小吃的方式很像吗?
08:01
I seriously doubt that.
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我觉得他们不知道。
08:03
But what a beautifully
human thing to know, right?
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但这是很奇妙的关于人类的一件事,
对吧?
08:06
And valuable, too.
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也很有价值。
08:07
Imagine what a Chinese snacking company
can do with this insight.
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想象一下如果中国的零食公司
知道这一点,可以做什么。
08:11
A lot, right?
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可以做很多啊,是吧?
08:13
Let's take you to another one.
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我再给大家看一个。
08:15
I'll show you another one.
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这是另一个。
08:16
Still staying with China.
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还是以中国作为基准市场。
08:18
The green dots are still the mindsets,
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绿点依然代表思维模式,
08:20
but this time the black dots
are how you buy cars,
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但这次黑点代表买车的动机,
08:23
what you look for when you buy
an automotive product.
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买汽车产品的时候你的需求是什么。
08:26
Now again, I guess you guys
are getting better with this now.
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那我相信大家现在
对这个图表很熟悉了。
08:30
But here's the hidden connections.
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但还是有隐藏联系。
08:33
We found -- and I'll name a few countries,
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我们发现——我会提到一些国家,
08:35
there's quite a few similar to China,
but two that I'll call out.
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有很多都和中国相似,
但是我要单独提两个。
08:39
South Africans and Nigerians buy cars
with similar motivations as the Chinese.
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南非和尼日利亚消费者买车
的动机和中国消费者很相似。
08:45
In all these countries,
your car, your ride, is a status symbol.
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在所有这些国家,
你的车,你的座驾,是地位的象征。
08:50
It tells your peer group who you are.
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它向你的同辈群体
展示你的身份地位。
08:52
So your car needs to show
you’ve arrived in life,
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所以你的车能显示出
你已经成功了,
08:55
and it's a very external
point of influence.
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这是种影响力的外在体现。
08:58
What will others think
if I drive this particular vehicle?
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如果我开某种车,其他人会怎么想?
09:02
In contrast, look at
the Germans at the bottom.
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相反的,看看位于底部的德国人。
09:04
Very different,
very internal, very personal.
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非常不一样,
非常关注内心,关注私人。
09:07
Your car has to be fun to drive.
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这车开起来得好玩。
09:10
That's very, very important.
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这非常非常重要。
09:11
And who blames them, right?
With those beautiful autobahns.
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这也不能怪他们啊对吧?
他们有漂亮的高速路。
09:14
Lovely roads, no speed limits.
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街道又可爱,还没限速。
09:16
Of course you want your car
to be a fun ride, right?
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你肯定想要开车是有趣的啊,对吧?
09:19
But wait, look at the French now.
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但是等一下,现在来看看法国。
09:21
The French are very different
from the Germans.
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法国和德国又不一样了。
09:23
They want their cars to be reliable
to navigate narrow roads.
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他们需要车能方便穿过狭窄路段。
09:28
So there you have it.
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那现在大家都看到了。
09:29
Two countries, France and Germany,
neighboring countries, European countries,
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两个国家,法国和德国,
邻国,都是欧洲国家,
09:33
very different motivations.
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动机完全不同。
09:34
And then a couple of African countries
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那还有一些非洲国家
09:37
similar to the Chinese
in the way they buy cars.
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在买车的时候和中国消费者很像。
09:39
No clustering, no business group
will ever put these countries together.
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没有一个集群划分,或者企业集团
会把这些国家放在一起。
09:44
But maybe a road trip from Beijing
to Lagos is just going to do the trick.
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不过可能从北京开车到拉各斯
走一趟就能明白了。
09:48
Who knows?
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谁知道呢?
09:49
Anyway, one more, last one.
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不管怎么说,还有一个,
是最后一个。
09:51
Indulge me, just to rub it in.
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请允许我再提一下这个。
09:54
So here's another one.
We're coming back to the US this time.
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这是另一个。
这次再拿美国作为基准市场。
09:57
Again, green is the mindset,
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依然,绿点代表思维模式,
09:59
but the black this time
is how you buy clothing, apparel.
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但这次黑点代表买服装。
10:02
Now remember we talked about
how the Americans and the Canadians
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还记得刚刚我们说到了
美国人和加拿大人
10:06
are very similar in mindsets earlier?
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思维模式很像吧?
10:08
And we also talked about,
you know -- of course,
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我们还说到了
你知道——肯定的,
10:10
they are closely connected
neighbors as well.
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他们也是两个邻国。
10:13
Now, however, they don’t buy
apparel the same way.
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但是,他们买衣服的思维却不一样。
10:16
The Americans buy things
that are on-trend.
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美国消费者买东西买的是流行。
10:18
They're looking to indulge.
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他们寻求一种放纵。
10:20
The Canadians look for utility.
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加拿大消费者需要实用。
10:22
They are looking for apparel
that can be good for adventure,
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他们买的衣服需要适合去探险,
10:24
and a love of outdoor sports
is critical here.
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关键在于他们热爱户外运动。
10:27
But controversially,
the Russians buy apparel
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但是有争议的是,
俄国消费者买衣服
10:30
in very similar way to the Americans,
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和美国消费者思维很像,
10:33
also looking for something
that’s on-trend,
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也是买流行、时髦的衣服,
10:35
also looking to indulge.
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也是寻求一种放纵。
10:37
Now to say that there've been tensions
between these two countries
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那么说两国之间关系一向紧张
10:40
is a serious understatement, right?
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就非常片面了,是吧?
10:42
And yet they have
this one beautiful connection.
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他们有这一点非常美妙的联系。
10:44
They have one thing in common.
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他们有一点是相似的。
10:47
What a lovely idea. Right?
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这个想法很奇妙。是不是?
10:49
Now I could go on and on.
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那我还有很多很多例子。
10:51
I showed you just a few examples today.
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今天只给大家看了几个。
10:53
But we found this over and over again.
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但我们一次次的发现了这点。
10:55
Category by category.
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按类别分类。
10:57
Country pair by country pair.
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一个国家对应一个国家。
10:59
We saw this in all kinds of things,
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我们在各方面都看到了这一点,
11:00
like luxury, beverages,
insurance, you name it.
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比如奢侈品,饮料,
保险,你随便说。
11:04
We found these connections everywhere.
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到处都能发现这些联系。
11:06
And I don't mean any of this to belittle
the massive, beautiful diversity
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我不是说这些相似点能
遮盖掉大量美妙的
11:10
that we see in consumers around us.
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在我们身边的消费者身上
体现出的多样性。
11:12
That's exactly why consumers
are such an important study
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这正是为什么消费者研究
如此重要
11:15
for people like me.
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对我们这些人来说。
11:17
But I think this work shows
that mankind is connected
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但我想,这个研究表明
人类是相通的
11:20
in a profound way that we never imagined.
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在某个我们从没想过
的更深的层次上。
11:24
It also shows that these connections
defy any stereotypes
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研究也说明这些联系
能抵消任何
11:27
that you and I or businesses
can come up with.
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你、我或是企业所想出来
的模式化思想。
11:31
These are patterns
where you least expect them.
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这些是大家想不到的模式。
11:34
And in these connections, of course,
there are commercial opportunities
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当然,在这些联系里有商机
11:38
for marketeers
who can embrace this insight.
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销售者可以利用这些商机。
11:40
Of course, it's commercially valuable.
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理所当然,这是有商业价值的。
11:42
But today, I want to go a step further,
if you permit me.
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但是今天,请允许我再进一步说。
11:45
I think in these connections,
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我认为在这些联系里,
11:47
there's also a message of hope
for the world.
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包含着给世界的有关希望的信条。
11:51
We live in a world that has globalized
for more than four decades,
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我们所生活的世界
已经经历了40多年的全球化,
11:55
and yet we're getting torn apart,
shaped by the geopolitics of our time.
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但是我们却因这个时代
的地缘政治而日渐分崩离析。
12:00
Countries are falling into blocs.
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国家分成不同阵营。
12:01
Fault lines are appearing everywhere.
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断层线无处不在。
12:04
I'm not a specialist in geopolitics.
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我不是地缘政治专家。
12:06
I'm just a student of the consumer.
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我只是消费者研究的学生。
12:09
But when I look at this data
and I think about it,
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但是当我看到这些数据
然后思考,
12:12
if only people knew that we are similar
in the most profound ways
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要是人们知道我们在很多
更隐蔽深刻的层面是相似的
12:17
in some of our most everyday activities,
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在很多日常活动中,
12:19
in the way we sip a cup of coffee,
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比如喝一杯咖啡,
12:22
taste a snack, try on a new outfit
or test drive a car,
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吃零食小吃,试穿新衣服
或者试驾新车,
12:26
how beautiful would that be?
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那该有多美好啊?
12:27
Maybe if we knew that,
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可能如果我们知道,
12:29
we would also learn to understand
and empathize with each other.
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我们就能学着了解彼此,
彼此共情。
12:34
It's a lovely thought to reflect on
maybe with your next cup of coffee.
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可能各位下次喝咖啡的时候
可以思考一下这个不错的想法。
12:38
Thank you so much.
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非常感谢。
12:39
(Applause)
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