Hidden Connections That Transcend Borders and Defy Stereotypes | Aparna Bharadwaj | TED

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Helen Chang
00:04
I've lived and worked in some very diverse countries around the world.
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我曾在世界各地一些非常 多樣化的國家中生活、工作過。
00:09
I was born in India, but I grew up in Iran.
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我在印度出生,但在伊朗長大。
00:12
I remember I was about eight years old, as a child in Iran,
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記得我九歲時,
我這個在伊朗的孩子和家人一起
00:16
with my family watching the beautiful festival of Nowruz.
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觀賞美麗的諾魯茲節(波斯新年)。
00:21
Nowruz is celebrated usually at night with families gathered around a bonfire.
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諾魯茲節通常是在晚上慶祝,
家人圍著營火相聚。
00:26
They share food. They sing songs.
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大家分享食物,唱歌。
00:29
Sometimes they even jump over the fire for good luck.
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有時甚至會跳過營火,尋求好運。
00:32
And I remember how deeply that reminded me of another festival called Lohri,
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我記得它強烈地 讓我想到另一個節慶,
豐收節,
00:37
celebrated all the way over in India,
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印度各地都會慶祝這個節慶,
00:39
also with families gathered around a bonfire, sharing food,
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同樣也是家人聚在營火旁,
分享食物,
00:43
singing songs together.
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一起唱歌。
00:46
Even an eight-year-old child can tell
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就連八歲孩子也能看得出來
00:48
how profoundly similar those two events look
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這兩項盛事有多麼相似,
00:51
in two sets of countries that are culturally so different.
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即使它們分別在兩個 文化差異非常大的國家。
就好像有種隱藏的連結存在。
00:56
Like a kind of hidden connection.
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00:59
As an adult, I’ve spent 20 years of my life
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長大之後,
我有二十年的時間
01:02
studying consumers all over the world.
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研究世界各地的消費者。
01:05
What they feel, what they believe in
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他們有什麼感覺、他們相信什麼,
01:08
and how they act upon those beliefs when they buy things.
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以及他們在買東西時會如何 根據那些信念來採取行動。
01:12
And of course, a big part of my job is to truly understand
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當然,我的工作有很大一部分
是要真正去了解 存在於世界上的多樣性。
01:16
the diversity that exists in the world.
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01:19
But maybe because of my upbringing,
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但,也許是因為我的教養,
01:21
what truly fascinates me is when we find these hidden connections,
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真正讓我著迷的,
是找到這些隱藏連結的時刻,
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these secret similarities between people where you least expect them.
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在最超乎預期的地方,找到 人與人之間的隱密相似性。
01:30
Today I want to share some of that magic with you,
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今天我想和大家分享這魔力, 帶大家進入我的世界。
01:32
bring you into my world.
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我們等下會要做一些偵查工作,
01:34
And we are going to go do some detective work
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01:36
on the world's consumers together.
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一起探究世界上的消費者。
01:38
Stay with me, because I think
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所以,別神遊,因為我認為這 能帶給大家一個希望的訊息。
01:40
there's a message of hope in here for all of us.
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01:46
Before we start, let's have a think
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開始之前,我們先來想想看
01:48
about how companies, businesses are organized today,
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現今的公司及企業是 如何組織、如何運作的。
01:52
how they operate today.
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01:54
Most commonly, companies are organized by regions, subregions.
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根據地區、分區 來組織的公司最常見。
01:58
That's how supply chains, organizations are set up.
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供應鏈、組織,是這樣建立的。
02:01
And if it's not geographies, then it's some other thumb rule.
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若不是地理,則會是其他經驗法則。
02:04
It could be linked to some common historic period.
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有可能會連結到 某段共同的歷史時期。
02:08
So, for example, the Commonwealth countries.
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比如,英聯邦。
02:11
It could be linked to common religious roots.
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有可能連結到共同的宗教根源。
02:14
For example, I've been a part of a lot of discussions
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比如,我參與過很多 關於清真經濟的討論。
02:17
on the halal economy.
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02:18
It could be something, anything
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可以是任何事物,
02:20
that allows us to put the world into neat little boxes,
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只要能讓我們把世界放到小框框裡、
02:23
neat little clusters, that explain why people are similar or different.
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小群組裡,
來解釋人們為何相似或不同。
02:28
But I realized that when you study the consumers
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但我發現,當你研究消費者,
02:31
and when you go deep,
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當你更深入,
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it's interesting how none of that applies.
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有趣的是,上述分類通通都不適用。
02:35
How wrong some of that thinking can be.
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那些想法錯到不能再錯。
02:38
Let me show you.
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讓我來說明。
02:40
About a year ago, a team of us set out to understand
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大約一年前,我們組成團隊,
打算要去了解世界各地的 消費者如何做選擇。
02:44
how consumers exercise choice around the world.
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02:47
In this process, we interacted with over 40,000 consumers
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在這個過程中,我們 和超過四萬名消費者互動,
02:51
in 18 countries around the world.
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他們來自全世界十八個國家。
我們問他們很多很多問題,關於
02:54
We asked them many, many questions about their mindsets to start with.
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比如他們的心態。
02:59
So, for example, your worldview, your personal philosophy.
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例如,你的世界觀、你的個人哲學。
03:02
Do you feel optimistic? Do you have a love for technology?
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你感到樂觀嗎?
你喜歡科技嗎?
03:06
Do you care about peer approval? Things like that.
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你在乎同儕認同嗎?
諸如此類。
03:09
But we also tried to study some very specific consumer behavior.
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但我們也試圖研究一些 非常明確的消費者行為。
03:13
So, for example, what do you look for when you buy a snack
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比如,你買點心的時候 考量的是什麼?
03:16
or you buy a beverage or luxury products?
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或者,買飲料或奢侈品的時候呢?
03:19
What needs are you trying to fulfill?
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你想滿足的需求是什麼?
03:22
As you can imagine, there was a ton of data
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各位可以想像,資料多到 能讓圈內阿宅欣喜若狂。
03:24
for the geek insiders to go crazy with, right?
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03:27
I love that type of data.
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我愛那種資料。
總之,我們開始從那些資料 當中找出關聯性。
03:29
So anyway, we take all that data, and we start to draw correlations.
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03:32
We start running all these analyses.
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我們開始進行各種分析。
03:35
And we come up with this kind of a proximity analysis.
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我們得到像這樣的近似度分析結果。
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Quite simply, every green dot represents people of a particular country.
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相當簡單,每一個綠點 代表一個特定國家的人。
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The closer the green dot is to the map in the middle,
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綠點越接近中央的地圖,
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the more similar the mindsets are for those two sets of countries.
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表示這兩個國家的心態就越接近。
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And the further the dot from the map,
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綠點離地圖越遠,表示 這兩個國家的心態就越不同。
03:52
the more diverse the mindsets for those countries.
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03:54
It's as simple as that.
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就這麼簡單。
03:55
So of course, when you do this for the US,
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當然,當你針對美國做分析,
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you can see that the Canadians, the people of the UK and the Australians
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各位可以看到,加拿大人、
英國人以及澳洲人
04:02
are very similar in mindsets to the Americans.
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在心態上和美國人非常相似。
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Now we had been studying consumers for a long time
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我們研究消費者非常久了,
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and the whole team fully expected
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整個團隊全都預期
04:12
that we were going to see a lot of clusters come through,
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我們將會看到很多分群出現,
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based on some of those thumb rules that I talked about earlier.
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依我剛才談到的經驗法則 分出來的群組。
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So imagine our surprise.
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想像一下我們有多驚訝。
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We run this data and we find very little clustering
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我們分析了這些資料, 結果幾乎找不到
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based on any of those thumb rules.
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根據那些經驗法則的分群現象。
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We didn't, for example, find an Asian culture cluster.
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比如,我們沒有找到亞洲文化群組。
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We didn't find a European cluster.
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也沒有找到一個歐洲群組。
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Nothing like it.
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都沒有這種的。
04:32
In fact, we found 90-percent correlation between the Americans and the Australians.
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事實上,我們發現美國人 和澳洲人之間有 90% 的相關。
04:38
Two sets of people on the literal opposite ends of the world.
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這兩組人真的是位在地球的兩端。
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Can you imagine that? How amazing is that?
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各位可以想像嗎?那有多不可思議?
04:45
And this is a big deal, by the way,
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順道一提,這很了得。
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because businesses, companies operate, govern themselves,
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因為企業、公司
完全根據這些群組來做 自身的營運和管理,
04:51
entirely on the basis of these clusters that we found didn't even exist.
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我們卻發現這些群組不存在。
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And believe me, we tested a bunch of thumb rules.
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相信我,我們測試了很多經驗法則。
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And the interesting part was
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有趣的是,並不是說 能找到新經驗法則來取代
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that it was not as if you can find new thumb rules
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行不通的舊法則。
05:03
to replace the old ones that don't work.
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答案其實蠻技術的。
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The answer was kind of technical, actually.
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那就是:就別做了!
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It was: just don't do it.
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Resist the urge to find any kind of thumb rules to explain the world.
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抗拒衝動,別想去找出任何 解釋世界的經驗法則。
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These are only propagating stereotypes.
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這些都只是流傳的刻板印象。
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So then we said, OK, if all these thumb rules don't work,
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所以,我們說,好,如果 所有經驗法則都行不通,
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how do you make sense of all the diversity that we see around us?
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我們要如何合理化我們周遭 所見的各種多樣性?
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How do we put some patterns? How do we understand it?
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我們要如何放入模式? 我們要如何了解它?
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So then we started to study the specific consumer behavior I talked about.
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接著我們開始研究我剛才 提到的特定消費者行為。
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What do you look for when you buy insurance?
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當你買保險時,考量的是什麼?
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What do you need when you buy beverages?
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你買飲料時需要滿足 什麼條件?買衣服時呢?
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When you buy apparel, cars, things like that?
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買車子或其他東西時呢?
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And here we found something that was even more profound, I think.
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我們在這裡有了 我認為更深奧的發現。
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Let me show you.
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容我說明。
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So this time I'm using China as the base market.
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這次,我用中國當作基礎市場。
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Again, as before, green dots, overall mindsets.
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和先前一樣,綠點,整體的心態。
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Now you can see immediately when you see this chart
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看這張圖時,馬上就能發現,
中國人是相當獨一無二的消費族群。
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that the Chinese are such a unique group of consumers.
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05:58
The inner circle is empty.
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內圈是空的。
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The second circle is also empty.
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第二圈也是空的。
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Then you start to see India, Mexico, a couple of other markets.
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接著你開始看到印度、 墨西哥,和幾個其他市場。
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But the correlation shows not a lot of similarity
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但相關性結果顯示
中國人和其他客戶群之間 沒有太高的相似性。
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between the Chinese and those group of customers.
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06:11
So clearly, China stands apart.
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很顯然,中國獨樹一格, 非常獨一無二的客戶群。
06:12
Very unique group of consumers.
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06:14
But we notice Japan on the top left here.
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但,我們注意到左上方的日本。
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The Japanese are so diverse from the Chinese.
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日本人和中國人相當不同。
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And yet I know so many businesses that put Japan and China
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但我知道有好多企業
把日本和中國視為是 北亞洲群組中的鄰近國家。
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as neighboring countries in the North Asia cluster.
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06:25
That's so common.
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那很常見,但錯得離譜。
06:26
It's so wrong.
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總之,我離題了, 這議題會讓我太興奮。
06:28
Anyway, I digress. I get very excited with this stuff.
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06:30
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:32
So then, coming back to the point,
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回到主題來,
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on top of it, we overlaid these black dots.
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我們在上頭疊加上了這些黑點。
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The black dots are now the needs when you snack.
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黑點代表的是當你吃點心時的需求。
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So what motivates you when you reach out for a snack?
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當你伸手拿點心時, 背後的動機是什麼?
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That's the black dots.
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那就是黑點。
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And when we did that and we studied it, we found a hidden connection.
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我們這麼做之後再去研究, 發現了一個隱藏的連結。
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I don't know if you can already see it, but I'm going to circle it for you.
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不知道各位是否看得出來, 讓我把它圈出來。
06:52
We found that the Indonesians,
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我們發現印尼人、
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the Saudi Arabians and consumers of the UAE
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沙烏地阿拉伯人 與阿拉伯聯合大公國的消費者
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snack in very similar ways to the Chinese.
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吃點心的行為方式 和中國人非常相似。
07:02
Let's think about it for a second.
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咱們來思考一下。
07:04
These are Muslim countries.
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這些都是穆斯林國家。
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Very different culture, very different background to the Chinese.
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和中國人有非常不同的文化及背景。
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And yet they snack is similar ways.
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但吃點心的行為方式卻相似。
07:12
How cool is that? Right?
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那有多酷啊?
07:14
And similar how?
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是怎樣的相似?
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Well, for first, in all of these countries,
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首先,
在所有這些國家,吃點心 是社交放縱的時刻。
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snacking is a moment of social indulgence.
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It's something you do as a group.
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是一群人一起做的事。
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So people snack in groups, they share the snacks.
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大家結伴吃點心,
共享點心。
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They often buy a hot snack that they purchase from a hawker or a food court.
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他們通常會在攤販 或美食街買熱食點心。
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Somebody prepares it fresh for them.
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是新鮮現做的點心。
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The quality is not guaranteed. It's very important.
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品質沒有保障,這點非常重要。
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They snack in similar ways.
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他們吃點心的行為方式很相似。
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In contrast, the Americans, over on the top left,
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相對的,美國人在左上方,
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snack very differently.
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吃點心就很不同。
07:44
Americans snack alone.
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美國人獨自吃點心。
07:46
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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They don't share their snacks.
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他們不分享自己的點心。
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It's often at their desk in a package,
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點心通常在他們的桌上, 是有包裝起來的,
07:54
very different from the rest of the countries.
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和其他國家非常不同。
07:57
Now I wonder, do the Chinese and the Indonesians know
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我很好奇中國人和印尼人知道 他們吃點心的方式很相似嗎?
08:00
that they snack similarly?
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08:01
I seriously doubt that.
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我不太相信他們知道。
08:03
But what a beautifully human thing to know, right?
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但能知道人有這種 美麗的事,很棒吧?
08:06
And valuable, too.
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也很有價值。
08:07
Imagine what a Chinese snacking company can do with this insight.
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想想看若中國的點心公司 能運用這洞見做些什麼。
08:11
A lot, right?
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能做很多吧?
08:13
Let's take you to another one.
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讓我再給各位看一個例子。
08:15
I'll show you another one.
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08:16
Still staying with China.
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仍然是與中國比較。
08:18
The green dots are still the mindsets,
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綠點仍然是心態,
08:20
but this time the black dots are how you buy cars,
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但這次黑點是購買汽車的方式,
08:23
what you look for when you buy an automotive product.
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當你購買汽車產品時會考量什麼。
08:26
Now again, I guess you guys are getting better with this now.
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同樣的,
我猜各位越來越上手了,但,
08:30
But here's the hidden connections.
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隱藏的連結在這些地方。
08:33
We found -- and I'll name a few countries,
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我們發現——我會提出幾個國家,
08:35
there's quite a few similar to China, but two that I'll call out.
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和中國相似的國家不少, 但有兩個我想提出來。
08:39
South Africans and Nigerians buy cars with similar motivations as the Chinese.
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南非人和奈及利亞人購買汽車時,
動機和中國人很相似。
08:45
In all these countries, your car, your ride, is a status symbol.
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在這些國家中,
汽車,交通工具,是地位的象徵。
08:50
It tells your peer group who you are.
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它能告訴你的同儕團體你是誰。
08:52
So your car needs to show you’ve arrived in life,
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所以你的車必須要能 展現你在人生的成就,
08:55
and it's a very external point of influence.
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這是非常外部的影響點。
08:58
What will others think if I drive this particular vehicle?
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如果我開這一台車, 其他人會怎麼想?
09:02
In contrast, look at the Germans at the bottom.
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相對的,看看底部的德國,
09:04
Very different, very internal, very personal.
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非常不同、非常內在、非常個人化。
09:07
Your car has to be fun to drive.
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你的車必須要開起來很有樂趣。
09:10
That's very, very important.
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那非常重要。
09:11
And who blames them, right? With those beautiful autobahns.
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但誰能怪他們呢? 德國有那麼美的高速公路、
09:14
Lovely roads, no speed limits.
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美好的道路,沒有速限,當然 你會希望開車是種樂趣對吧?
09:16
Of course you want your car to be a fun ride, right?
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09:19
But wait, look at the French now.
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但,等等,現在看看法國人。
09:21
The French are very different from the Germans.
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法國人和德國人非常不同。
09:23
They want their cars to be reliable to navigate narrow roads.
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他們希望他們的車在窄路上 行駛時也要很可靠。
09:28
So there you have it.
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就是這樣。
09:29
Two countries, France and Germany, neighboring countries, European countries,
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兩個國家,法國和德國, 相鄰的國家,歐洲國家,
09:33
very different motivations.
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非常不同的動機。
09:34
And then a couple of African countries
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接著,有幾個非洲國家
在購買汽車方面和中國人很相似。
09:37
similar to the Chinese in the way they buy cars.
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09:39
No clustering, no business group will ever put these countries together.
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沒有任何分群方式或商業分組
會把這些國家歸在同一類。
09:44
But maybe a road trip from Beijing to Lagos is just going to do the trick.
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但也許從北京開車到拉哥斯 就能達到這個效果。
09:48
Who knows?
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天知道?
09:49
Anyway, one more, last one.
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總之,再一個,最後一個。
09:51
Indulge me, just to rub it in.
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遷就我,再忍受我一下。
09:54
So here's another one. We're coming back to the US this time.
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這是另一個例子。 這次我們再回到美國。
09:57
Again, green is the mindset,
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同樣的,綠點是心態,
09:59
but the black this time is how you buy clothing, apparel.
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但這次黑點代表你如何 決定購買衣服、服飾。
10:02
Now remember we talked about how the Americans and the Canadians
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記得我們先前談過美國人 和加拿大人在心態上很相似?
10:06
are very similar in mindsets earlier?
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10:08
And we also talked about, you know -- of course,
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我們也有談到,當然, 它們是有密切連結的鄰國。
10:10
they are closely connected neighbors as well.
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10:13
Now, however, they don’t buy apparel the same way.
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然而,他們買衣服的考量不同。
10:16
The Americans buy things that are on-trend.
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美國人買流行的東西。
10:18
They're looking to indulge.
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他們尋求縱情。
10:20
The Canadians look for utility.
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加拿大人尋求的是功效。
10:22
They are looking for apparel that can be good for adventure,
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他們要找的衣服要能適合冒險,
10:24
and a love of outdoor sports is critical here.
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這裡的重點是對戶外運動的熱愛。
10:27
But controversially, the Russians buy apparel
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但,很有爭議的是俄羅斯人,
他們買衣服的考量和美國人很相似,
10:30
in very similar way to the Americans,
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10:33
also looking for something that’s on-trend,
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同樣也追求流行,
10:35
also looking to indulge.
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也想要縱情。
10:37
Now to say that there've been tensions between these two countries
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說這兩國間的關係很緊繃 還算是太客氣,對吧?
10:40
is a serious understatement, right?
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但它們卻有這個美麗的連結。
10:42
And yet they have this one beautiful connection.
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10:44
They have one thing in common.
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它們有個共同點。
10:47
What a lovely idea. Right?
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很美好的想法,對吧?
10:49
Now I could go on and on.
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我可以一直說下去。今天 跟各位介紹的只是幾個例子。
10:51
I showed you just a few examples today.
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10:53
But we found this over and over again.
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但我們一再發現這樣的結果。
10:55
Category by category.
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一個類別又一個類別, 一對國家又一對國家。
10:57
Country pair by country pair.
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在各種產品上都有這個現象,比如:
10:59
We saw this in all kinds of things,
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11:00
like luxury, beverages, insurance, you name it.
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奢侈品、飲料、保險, 想得到的都是。
11:04
We found these connections everywhere.
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我們在哪裡都能找到這種連結。
11:06
And I don't mean any of this to belittle the massive, beautiful diversity
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我絕對沒有要貶低我們身邊所見各種
11:10
that we see in consumers around us.
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美好的消費者多樣性。
11:12
That's exactly why consumers are such an important study
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那正是為什麼對我這種人而言 研究消費者是如此重要。
11:15
for people like me.
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11:17
But I think this work shows that mankind is connected
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但,我想,這研究顯示了 人類是相連結的,
11:20
in a profound way that we never imagined.
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以我們從來沒有想像過的 深奧方式相連結。
這個研究也顯示這些連結
11:24
It also shows that these connections defy any stereotypes
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挑戰了你、我,或企業能想出來的
11:27
that you and I or businesses can come up with.
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任何刻板印象。
11:31
These are patterns where you least expect them.
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在你最沒預期到的地方 有著模式存在。
11:34
And in these connections, of course, there are commercial opportunities
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當然,在這些連結中, 存在有商業機會,
11:38
for marketeers who can embrace this insight.
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給能擁抱這洞見的市場商人運用。
11:40
Of course, it's commercially valuable.
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當然它是很有商業價值的。
11:42
But today, I want to go a step further, if you permit me.
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但,今天,如果各位容許, 我想要再進一步。
11:45
I think in these connections,
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我認為在這些連結中,
11:47
there's also a message of hope for the world.
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也有關於希望的訊息,能給全世界。
11:51
We live in a world that has globalized for more than four decades,
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我們所處的世界, 全球化已經超過四十年,
11:55
and yet we're getting torn apart, shaped by the geopolitics of our time.
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但我們卻被分裂,
被這個時代的地緣政治給塑型。
12:00
Countries are falling into blocs.
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國家變成了聯盟陣營。
12:01
Fault lines are appearing everywhere.
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隱憂開始在各處浮現。
12:04
I'm not a specialist in geopolitics.
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我不是地緣政治專家。
12:06
I'm just a student of the consumer.
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我只是在研究消費者的人。
12:09
But when I look at this data and I think about it,
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但當我看著這些資料,
思索其意義,
12:12
if only people knew that we are similar in the most profound ways
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真希望大家能知道
我們其實有很深刻的相似度,
12:17
in some of our most everyday activities,
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在最日常的活動上很相似,
12:19
in the way we sip a cup of coffee,
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我們啜食咖啡的方式很相似,
12:22
taste a snack, try on a new outfit or test drive a car,
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品嚐點心、
試穿新衣服或試駕 汽車的方式都很相似,
12:26
how beautiful would that be?
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那有多美麗啊?
12:27
Maybe if we knew that,
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也許,如果我們知道這一點, 我們就也能學習去了解
12:29
we would also learn to understand and empathize with each other.
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並同理彼此。
12:34
It's a lovely thought to reflect on maybe with your next cup of coffee.
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這是值得反思的美好概念, 也許下次你喝咖啡時可以想想。
12:38
Thank you so much.
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非常謝謝。
12:39
(Applause)
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