Courage, the Most Important Virtue | Bari Weiss | TED

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Let me begin with some confessions.

Beri Vajs: Dozvolite da započnem s nekoliko priznanja.

I voted for Mitt Romney in 2012.

Glasala sam za Mita Romnija 2012.

And I voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, which is shocking, I know.

I glasala sam za Hilari Klinton i Džoa Bajdena, što je zapanjujuće, znam.

I'm pro-choice, and I think the European laws are sensible ones.

Podržavam pravo na abortus i smatram da su evropski zakoni razumni.

I'm a very proud supporter of Israel,

Ponosna sam podržavateljka Izraela,

even though I'm a critic of its current government.

iako sam kritičarka njihove trenutne vlade.

I think terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah are evil,

Smatram da su teroristi poput Hamasa i Hezbolaha zli,

and there is a bright line between groups that aim to kill innocents

i da postoji jasna granica između grupa koje ciljaju da ubiju nevine

and those that try to avoid doing so at all costs.

i onih koje se trude da to izbegnu po svaku cenu.

I think that girls in Afghanistan shouldn't be sold into child marriages,

Smatram da devojčice iz Avganistana ne bi trebalo prodavati u dečje brakove

and that women in Iran should be free to show their hair in public

i da bi žene u Iranu trebalo da budu slobodne da pokažu kosu u javnosti

without fear of imprisonment or worse.

bez straha od zatvora ili nečeg goreg.

And that women in Somalia should not endure genital mutilation.

Kao i da žene u Somaliji ne bi trebalo da prolaze kroz genitalno sakaćenje.

I believe that all people are created equal

Smatram da su svi ljudi stvoreni jednaki

and created in the image of God,

i stovreni prema Božjem liku,

but that all cultures are not equal.

ali da sve kulture nisu jednake.

I believe in gay marriage, so much so that I'm actually in one myself.

Verujem u gej brakove toliko da sam zapravo i sama u istom.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

I believe that adults should make pretty much any decision they want

Verujem da bi odrasli trebalo da donose gotovo sve odluke koje žele

about their bodies,

u vezi s njihovim telima,

but that children should not.

ali ne i deca.

I think the SAT is an imperfect but useful tool.

Smatram da je test školskih sposobnosti nesavršeno, ali korisno oruđe.

I think defunding the police is a very bad idea.

Smatram da je ukidanje finansiranja za policiju veoma loša ideja.

And that living in a safe neighborhood is among the truest forms of privilege.

Kao i da je živeti u bezbednom komšiluku istinski vid privilegije.

I think COVID probably came from a lab,

Smatram da je kovid najverovatnije nastao u laboratoriji,

and that, in retrospect,

i da je, iz ove perspektive,

locking kids out of school for two years was a big mistake.

držanje dece van škole tokom dve godine bila velika greška.

I think we should hire people based on their merit,

Smatram da treba zapošljavati ljude na osnovu njihovih zasluga,

but cast as wide a net as possible.

ali da treba baciti mrežu što je dalje moguće.

I don't want to eat bugs,

Ne želim da jedem bube,

nor do I want to drink water full of microplastics,

niti želim da pijem vodu punu mikroplastike,

and I don't think there's anything coded right or left

i ne smatram da išta sugeriše desno ili levo

about either of those things.

u vezi s ovim stvarima.

I believe that equality of opportunity

Smatram da je jednakost šansi,

and not equality of outcome

a ne jednakost ishoda

is the true measure of fairness.

istinska mera pravednosti.

I am repelled by ideologies that insist that our immutable characteristics

Odbijaju me ideologije koje insistiraju da su naše nepromenljive osobine

are more important than our character.

važnije od našeg karaktera.

I don't like riots,

Ne volim nerede,

I don't like mobs, and I hate lies.

ne volim rulje i mrzim laži.

And I love America for all of its flaws.

I volim Ameriku, uprkos svim njenim manama.

I believe, in part because Americans are free to debate those flaws

Verujem, delom zbog toga što su Amerikanci slobodni da raspravljaju o tim manama

and to strive for a more perfect union,

i teže ka savršenijoj uniji,

that it really is the last best hope on Earth.

da ona uistinu jeste poslednja najbolja nada na zemlji.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

The point in all of this is that I am really boring.

Poenta svega ovoga je da sam zaista dosadna.

Or at least I thought I was.

Ili sam barem mislila da jesam.

I am, or at least until a few seconds ago in historical time,

Skoro do pre nekoliko sekundi u istorijskom smislu,

I used to be considered a standard-issue liberal.

smatrana sam tipičnim liberalom.

And yet somehow,

Pa ipak, nekako,

in our most intellectual and prestigious spaces,

u našim najintelektualnijim i najprestižnijim prostorima,

many of the ideas I just outlined and others like them,

mnoge od ideja koje sam upravo podcrtala i druge slične njima,

have become provocative or controversial,

postale su provokativne ili kontroverzne,

which is really a polite way of saying unwelcome, beyond the pale.

a to je uistinu učtiv način da se kaže nedobrodošle, neprihvatljive.

Even bigoted or racist.

Čak i zatucane ili rasističke.

How?

Kako?

How did these relatively boring views come to be seen as off-limits?

Kako su ova relativno dosadna gledišta postala nešto što je van domašaja?

And how did that happen,

I kako je došlo do toga,

at least it seems to me,

kako se bar meni čini,

in the span of under a few years?

u rasponu kraćem od nekoliko godina?

Now the convenient answer, of course,

Sad, prikladan odgovor, naravno,

is the power of extreme activists.

glasi zbog moći ekstremnih aktivista.

People who burn down businesses and police stations,

Ljudi koji spaljuju radnje i policijske stanice,

people who shut down bridges and highways,

ljudi koji blokiraju mostove i auto-puteve,

people who harass their fellow students

ljudi koji maltretiraju kolege studente

and shout down their professors.

i ućutkavaju svoje profesore.

People who vandalize,

Ljudi koji vandalizuju,

who desecrate or tear down monuments of national heroes.

koji skrnave ili ruše spomenike nacionalnih heroja.

But do a handful of extreme activists really have the power

Međutim, da li šačica ekstremnih aktivista zaista ima moć

to dismantle the moral guardrails of a whole society,

da rasformira moralne ograde celokupnog društva,

to radically shift the Overton window

da radikalno izmeni prozor diskursa

of what is politically and socially acceptable?

u vezi s tim šta je politički i društveno prihvatljivo?

I don't think so.

Ne mislim da je tako.

There has always been and always will be a fringe.

Oduvek je postojala i uvek će postojati margina.

The difference right now

Trenutno je razlika u tome

is that the fringe seems to be calling the shots.

što se čini da margina vuče konce.

If you want to know why things have been turned upside down,

Ako želite da znate zašto su stvari izokrenute naglavačke,

why so many people are asking themselves if they've gone crazy,

zašto se toliko ljudi pita jesu li poludeli

or if the world has,

ili je svet poludeo,

as they hear feminist groups justify rape as a tool of resistance;

dok slušaju feminističke grupe kako opravdavaju silovanje kao oruđe otpora;

as groups that call themselves anti-racist

dok grupe koje se nazivaju antirasističkim

advocate for a new kind of segregation;

zagovaraju novi vid segregacije;

as young, highly educated people

dok mladi, visokoobrazovani ljudi

chant the slogans of jihadi terrorist groups;

uzvikuju slogane džihadističkih terorističkih grupa;

well, I ultimately don't think that's because of a few maniacs

pa, naposletku, ne smatram da je to tako zbog nekoliko manijaka

that are throwing paint on masterpieces in our museums.

koji bacaju farbu na remek-dela u našim muzejima.

It's because they have been allowed to do so.

Tako je zato što im je dozvoljeno da to rade.

And the question is why?

A pitanje glasi zašto.

Perhaps, to give the most generous read,

Možda, kako bih ponudila najizdašnije tumačenje,

it's because the people shutting things down

to je tako jer ljudi koji uništavaju stvari

claim to be doing so in the name of justice,

tvrde da to rade u ime pravednosti,

not in the name of nihilism.

a ne u ime nihilizma.

And because we believe them.

I zato što im verujemo.

Or perhaps it's because we told ourselves, "It's just a few nuts,

Ili je možda zato što smo rekli sebi: „Radi se o svega nekoliko ludaka,

I don't need to get involved."

ne moram da se mešam.”

Or maybe it's because people looked at their portfolio

Ili je pak tako jer su ljudi pogledali u svoj portfolio

and decided that they were doing great by the numbers.

i odlučili da im ide dobro u smislu brojki.

And those torched stores?

A sve te zapaljene radnje?

Ah, they probably had insurance anyway.

Ah, ionako verovatno imaju osiguranje.

Or because it was a headache.

Ili jer se radi o glavobolji.

Or because they're just kids.

Ili jer su to samo deca.

Or because, why die on that hill?

Ili jer: zašto biste stradali na tom krstu?

Or maybe it was because we thought they had a point.

Ili je tako bilo jer smo smatrali da su u pravu.

That America and the West really were guilty

Da su Amerika i Zapad zaista krivi

of all of the terrible things that they said,

za sve užasne stvari za koje se optužuju,

or at least of some of them.

ili bar za neke od njih.

And though we wouldn't have torn down statues or shouted down speakers,

I iako ne bismo rušili spomenike i ućutkivali govornike,

we lacked the conviction or the ideas to stop the people doing it.

nedostajalo nam je ubeđenja ili ideja da sprečimo ljude da to rade.

Or because maybe in the end we prized comfort over complexity.

Ili je možda zato što smo, naposletku, cenili udobnost iznad složenosti.

I was going to say prized comfort over truth,

Htela sam da kažem cenili udobnost iznad istine,

but the thing is, truth isn't something you pull out of the ground

ali radi se o tome da istina nije nešto što možete iščupati iz zemlje

like gold or diamonds.

poput zlata ili dijamanata.

It is a process sustained by a culture of questioning,

Radi se o procesu koji se održava kulturom preispitivanja,

including self-questioning.

uključujući i samopreispitivanje.

Which is why right now it can look like the absolutists are winning.

Zbog čega trenutno može da se čini kao da apsolutisti pobeđuju.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

My theory is that the reason we have a culture in crisis

Moja teorija je da je razlog zašto nam je kultura u krizi

is because of the cowardice of people that know better.

kukavičluk ljudi koji znaju bolje.

It is because the weakness of the silent,

Tako je zbog slabosti ućutkanih,

or rather the self-silencing majority.

ili pre samo-ućutkane većine.

So why have we been silent?

Dakle, zbog čega smo ćutali?

Simple.

Prosto je.

Because it's easier.

Jer je tako lakše.

Because speaking up is hard,

Jer je dizanje glasa teško,

it is embarrassing, it makes you vulnerable.

sramotno je, čini vas ranjivim.

It exposes you as someone who is not chill,

Razotkriva vas kao nekoga ko nije opušten,

as someone who cares a lot,

kao nekoga kome je itekako stalo,

as someone who makes judgments,

kao nekoga ko donosi sudove,

as someone who discerns between right and wrong,

kao nekoga ko razlikuje dobro od lošeg,

between better and worse.

bolje od goreg.

The reason Aristotle called courage the first virtue

Razlog zašto je Aristotel nazvao hrabrost prvom vrlinom

is because it is the one

je zato što je to vrlina

that makes all of the other virtues possible.

zbog koje su sve ostale moguće.

Do you want to live in a world

Da li želite da živite u svetu

that values justice, wisdom, compassion,

koji ceni pravdu, mudrost, saosećanje,

curiosity, rationality, equality

radoznalost, racionalnost, jednakost

and the pursuit of truth?

i potragu za istinom?

I do.

Ja želim.

But fighting to make sure we live in such a world is going to take courage.

Međutim, borba za osiguravanjem života u takvom svetu će zahtevati hrabrost.

That first virtue.

Tu prvu vrlinu.

I think one of the lessons of the past decade

Smatram da je jedna od lekcija protekle decenije

is that cowardice is perhaps more contagious than COVID.

ta da je kukavičluk možda i zarazniji od kovida.

But so is courage,

Međutim, i hrabrost je,

and a singular example can serve

i samo jedan primer može da posluži

as a powerful means of transmission.

kao moćno sredstvo prenosa.

So who are those examples?

Dakle, ko su ti primeri?

Each one of you, when I say the word courage,

Svako od vas kada izgovorim reč hrabrost,

will have the ones that come to mind for you.

imaće na umu one koji su to za vas.

But for me, for me, they are people like Salman Rushdie,

Međutim, za mene, to su ljudi poput Salmana Ruždija,

sentenced to death by the Iranian ayatollahs in 1989

koga su iranski ajatolasi osudili na smrt 1989.

for the sin of writing a novel.

za greh pisanja romana.

He lived under the shadow of a fatwa until two years ago,

Živeo je pod senkom fatve dok pre nekoliko godina,

on a stage like this one, he was viciously stabbed.

na sceni sličnoj ovoj, nije okrutno izboden.

But he survived and undaunted,

Međutim, preživeo je i neustrašivo

this week, of course, he published a book about it.

ove nedelje, naravno, objavio je knjigu o tome.

Courage for me is someone like Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman,

Hrabrost za mene je neko poput pensilvanijskog senatora Džona Fetermana,

who insists that there is nothing contradictory

koji smatra da ništa nije kontradiktorno

about his progressive values

u vezi s njegovim progresivnim vrednostima

and his belief that Hamas is a band of murderers that must be defeated.

i njegovim uverenjem da je Hamas banda ubica koja mora biti poražena.

Now suffice it to say, this has not made him popular,

Izlišno je reći da nije postao popularan zbog ovoga,

but he doesn't seem to care.

ali ne čini se da mari za to.

While a lot of other people have moved on out of political expediency,

Dok su drugi ljudi nastavili dalje zbog političke svrsishodnosti,

his office in DC is the one that remains papered with photos

njegova kancelarija u Vašingtonu je i dalje oblepljena slikama

of all of the hostages.

svih taoca.

Courage to me

Hrabrost za mene

looks like Stanford medical professor Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.

izgleda poput medicinskog profesora sa Stanforda dr Džeja Bhatačarja.

Jay studies the health and well-being of vulnerable populations for a living,

Džejov posao je izučavanje zdravlja i dobrostanja ranjivih populacija,

and he foresaw the social and mental health crisis

i predvideo je društvenu i krizu mentalnog zdravlja

that would follow the COVID lockdowns.

koje će uslediti nakon kovid karantina.

He said so, he explained it calmly.

Rekao je da je tako, objasnio to mirno.

But for doing so, Twitter blacklisted him.

Zbog toga ga je pak Tviter stavio na crnu listu.

YouTube censored him.

Jutjub ga je cenzurisao.

The medical establishment ostracized and slandered him.

Medicinski establišment ga je izopštio i oklevetao.

He wrote, "I could not believe this was happening

Zapisao je: „Nisam mogao da verujem da se to dešava

in a country that I so love."

u zemlji koju toliko volim.”

And yet he did not tremble.

Pa ipak, nije zadrhtao.

He said, "The healing of the world starts by one person saying loudly,

Rekao je: „Izlečenje sveta počinje kada jedna osoba progovori glasno

so the whole world can hear,"

kako bi ceo svet mogao da čuje,

an important, true thing,

važnu, istinitu stvar,

that he knows he's not supposed to say

za koju zna da ne bi trebalo da je kaže

and that he knows will get him in trouble for saying it.

i zna da će ga uvaliti u nevolju zato što je izgovara."

I think about Roland Fryer, the economist who did just that.

Mislim na Rolanda Frajera, ekonomistu koji je baš tako postupio.

His colleagues at Harvard warned him against publishing research

Kolege sa Harvarda su ga upozorile da ne objavljuje istraživanje

that he did into police violence.

koje je obavio o policijskom nasilju.

"You'll ruin your career," they told him.

„Upropastićeš karijeru”, rekli su mu.

And that's because his research found

I to zato što je njegovo istraživanje otkrilo

that while there was racial bias in low-level police force,

da iako postoji rasna pristrasnost kod nižerangiranih policijskih snaga,

there wasn't when it came to police shootings.

ne postoji kada su u pitanju ubistva od strane policije.

Now Roland himself was shocked by these findings.

Sad, i sam Roland je bio zapanjen ovim otkrićima.

He knew it went against his own assumptions.

Znao je da se kose sa njegovim sopstvenim pretpostavkama.

He knew it would outrage people.

Znao je da će razbesneti ljude.

But he published the research anyway.

Ipak je objavio istraživanje.

And it wasn't simply that his reputation suffered.

I nije mu samo reputacija ispaštala.

He had to hire an armed guard in Cambridge.

Morao je da angažuje naoružanog telohranitelja u Kembridžu.

His baby was seven days old,

Beba mu je imala sedam dana,

and he had to go to buy diapers with an armed guard.

i morao je da kupuje pelene u pratnji naoružanog čuvara.

Where did he get the courage to do it?

Gde je crpio hrabrost za to?

"Simple," he told me.

„Prosto je,” rekao mi je.

"I don't covet what they covet."

„Ne žudim za čim oni žude.”

He said, "Every day I have to look at myself in the mirror and say,

Rekao je: „Svaki dan moram da se pogledam u ogledalo i upitam:

'What are you here for?'"

‘Zbog čega si tu?’”

Masih Alinejad knows what she is put on Earth for.

Masih Alinedžad zna zbog čega je došla na zemlju.

With moxie and courage,

Drčno i hrabro

she is leading the campaign for women's rights in Iran.

predvodi kampanju za prava žena u Iranu.

Her sister was forced to denounce her on state television.

Njena sestra je naterana da je se odrekne na državnoj televiziji.

Her brother was thrown in jail for her dissent.

Njen brat je završio u zatvoru zbog njenog otpadništva.

And now Masih lives in exile in America

I Masih sada živi u egzilu u Americi,

but remains a hunted woman,

ali je i dalje progonjena žena,

moving from safe house to safe house.

seli se iz jedne u drugu sigurnu kuću.

And yet she does not stop shouting for freedom.

Pa ipak ne prestaje da podiže glas za slobodu.

Nor does Jimmy Lai,

Niti to radi Džimi Laj,

the media mogul whose pro-democracy newspaper "Apple Daily"

medijski mogul čije su prodemokratske novine „Epl dejli”

was shut down as China took over Hong Kong.

ugašene kada je Kina preuzela Hong Kong.

Jimmy had more than the means to flee his country.

Džimi je imao dovoljno sredstava da pobegne iz svoje države.

He is a billionaire with a British passport.

Milijarder je sa britanskim pasošem.

But he stayed.

Međutim, ostao je.

"Now is not the time for safety," he said.

„Sada nije vreme za sigurnost,” rekao je.

"This is a time for sacrifice."

„Sada je vreme za žrtvovanje.”

Today is his 1,204 day in prison.

Danas je njegov 1204. dan u zatvoru.

His son Sebastian said this of his father:

Njegov sin Sebastijan je rekao sledeće za oca:

"Dad staying in Hong Kong is really proof

„Očev ostanak u Hong Kongu je zaista dokaz

that this intangible thing we call liberty is a thing people yearn for.

da je ova neopipljiva stvar koju zovemo sloboda nešto za čim ljudi žude.

You can call it Western values, but it's not really.

Možete je nazivati zapadnom vrednošću, ali ona to uistinu nije.

In the sense that it's not something that only people in the West

U smislu da se ne radi o nečemu što jedino ljudi na Zapadu

want or deserve."

žele ili zaslužuju.”

Alexei Navalny was not born in the West,

Aleksej Navaljni nije rođen na Zapadu,

but he yearned for that kind of liberty.

ali je čeznuo za takvim vidom slobode.

The opposition leader had refuge in Germany,

Lider opozicije je imao utočište u Nemačkoj,

but he flew back into Putin's Russia,

ali je odleteo nazad u Putinovu Rusiju,

sacrificing his freedom and ultimately his life

žrtvujući sopstvenu slobodu, a naposletku i život,

to oppose tyranny.

kako bi se suprotstavio tiraniji.

He knew that his death would expose the truth

Znao je da će njegova smrt razotkriti istinu

about a totalitarian regime built on lies.

o totalitarnom režimu izgrađenom na lažima.

Which it can,

Ona to i može,

so long as we keep his memory alive.

dokle god održavamo sećanje na njega.

Navalny lived and died beneath the shadow of a tyranny

Navaljni je živeo i umro pod senkom tiranije

that we are fighting to prevent in our still young

koju se borimo da sprečimo u našem još uvek mladom,

but ever-darkening century.

ali sve mračnijem veku.

Ask yourself right now,

Sada se zapitajte:

should it take courage in the West to denounce the hateful ideology

da li je potrebna hrabrost na Zapadu da se osudi ideologija mržnje

of the Islamic Republic of Iran,

Islamske Republike Iran,

which pronounces death on individual writers

koja izriče smrtne kazne individualnim piscima

and on entire countries, large and small?

i celokupnim državama, malim i velikim?

Should it take courage to oppose those chanting "death to America?"

Da li je potrebna hrabrost

da se suprotstavimo onima koji uzvikuju „smrt Americi?”

Should it take courage to say, “No, that’s wrong?”

Da li je potrebna hrabrost da kažemo: „Ne, to je pogrešno”?

Should it take courage to say

Da li je potrebna hrabrost da se kaže

that those who praise the pristine subways of Russia

da oni koji hvale besprekorne podzemne železnice Rusije

are not journalists, but propagandists?

nisu novinari, već propagandisti?

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Should it take courage to just say in public,

Da li je potrebna hrabrost da prosto javno kažete:

"I disagree?"

„Ne slažem se”?

Right now it does.

Trenutno jeste.

My friend Coleman Hughes,

Moj prijatelj Kolman Hjuz,

who spoke on this stage last year

koji je prošle godine govorio na ovoj pozornici

and who advocates for the colorblind ideal

i koji je zagovornik ideala o slepilu za boju kože,

championed by Martin Luther King Jr,

ideala koga je proslavio Martin Luter King mlađi,

rather than give in to the race essentialism

umesto da popusti pred rasnim esencijalizmom

that's become chic these days,

koji je postao šik ovih dana,

he'll debate anyone.

raspravljaće s bilo kim.

He'll disagree with anyone.

Suprotstaviće se bilo kome.

But why is it that his angriest opponents prefer to call him hateful names

Zašto ga pak njegovi najljući protivnici radije nazivaju ružnim imenima

and to lobby for his exclusion?

i lobiraju za njegovo isključenje?

The question, I think,

Pitanje je, smatram,

is whether or not the people I've mentioned

da li će se ili neće ljudi koje sam pomenula

and those like them,

i drugi slični njima,

whether their photos and their names

da li će se njihove slike i imena,

and most importantly, their ideas

i što je najvažnije, njihove ideje,

will show up at conferences like this one.

pojaviti na konferencijama sličnim ovoj.

And that's up to you.

A to je na vama.

I've had enough people confess to me after lectures or in newsrooms

Dovoljan broj ljudi mi je poverio nakon predavanja ili u redakcijama,

or on college campuses or in corporations or cafes,

na fakultetskim kampusima, u korporacijama, kafeima,

really, everywhere I go,

uistinu gde god da pođem,

that they wish they could say what they believe.

da bi želeli da mogu da iskažu svoja ubeđenja.

They tell me with some measure of shame

Kažu mi uz dozu srama

that they're closeted in our liberal democracies.

da su zabravljeni u našim liberalnim demokratijama.

It's a really strange phenomenon.

Uistinu je to čudna pojava.

The freest people in the history of the world

Najslobodniji ljudi u istoriji sveta

seem to have lost the hunger for liberty.

čini se da su izgubili glad za slobodom.

Or maybe it's really the will to defend it.

Ili se pak zaista radi o volji da se ona brani.

And when they tell me this,

A kada ovo kažu,

it puts me in mind of my hero, Natan Sharansky,

stavim se u stanje svesti mog heroja Natana Šaranskog,

who spent a decade in the Soviet gulag before getting his freedom.

koji je proveo deceniju u sovjetskom gulagu pre nego se domogao slobode.

He is the single bravest person that I have ever met in my life.

On je najhrabrija osoba koju sam upoznala u životu.

And a few years ago, one afternoon in Jerusalem,

I pre nekoliko godina, jednog popodneva u Jerusalimu,

I asked him a simple question.

postavila sam mu jednostavno pitanje.

"Nathan," I asked him, "is it possible to teach courage?"

„Natane”, upitala sam ga, „da li je moguće podučavati hrabrost?”

And he smiled in his impish way and said, "No.

A on se nasmejao na vragolast način i rekao: „Ne.

All you can do is show people how good it feels to be free."

Sve što možeš je da pokažeš ljudima koliko je dobar osećaj biti slobodan.”

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause and cheers)

(Aplauz i klicanje)

Thank you so much. Thank you.

Mnogo vam hvala. Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Chris Anderson: Stay up, stay up a sec.

Kris Anderson: Ostani, ostani na sekund.

Friends --

Prijatelji -

Bari Weiss: Sorry I couldn't memorize, you guys.

BV: Izvinjavam se, narode, što nisam naučila napamet.

CA: This session is going to run long.

KA: Ova sesija će da se oduži.

I'm sorry, but it matters.

Izvinjavam se, ali važno je.

Thank you, that was a great talk.

Hvala ti, bio je to sjajan govor.

Saw people stand and cheer,

Video sam ljude kako stoje i kliču,

other people didn't stand.

drugi ljudi nisu stajali.

You're in the middle of all these issues --

Ti si u središtu ovih problema -

BW: I was expecting hecklers, so I'm really happy.

BV: Očekivala sam napade, te sam zaista srećna.

CA: But these issues are so important.

KA: Ali ova pitanja su veoma važna.

And this is such an important conversation.

I ovo je tako važan razgovor.

I think I want to ask you something

Mislim da želim da te pitam nešto

in the quest for common ground here.

u potrazi za zajedničkim stanovištem.

Is it possible that, as well as lack of courage,

Da li je moguće da se, pored nedostatka hrabrosti,

there's something else big going on

još nešto veliko dešava

in the hearts of many of the "silent majority?"

u srcima mnogih od „ućutkane većine”?

Which, for want of a better word is love.

A to je, u nedostatku bolje reči, ljubav.

These are often debates between identity groups,

Ovo su često rasprave između identitetskih grupa,

and many of us don't like the way that the battle is going.

i mnogima od nas se ne sviđa način na koji se borba odvija.

But we also feel deeply the pain

Međutim, takođe duboko osećamo bol

that a lot of these groups have gone through,

kroz koji su mnoge od ovih grupa prošle,

the injustices that they have suffered.

nepravde koje su pretrpele.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

And if you get involved,

I ako se umešate,

it can so easily be seen as you are against that group.

to se lako može protumačiti kao da ste protiv te grupe.

And I guess I'm just wondering

I valjda se prosto pitam

whether there's common ground to be found in us all saying identity really matters.

da li postoji zajedničko stanovište gde svi kažemo da je identitet zaista važan.

And I mean, you care about the past injustices of people in America

I mislim, ti mariš za prošle nepravde ljudi u Americi

and all the different groups you’ve talked about.

i sve različite grupe o kojima si govorila.

But that there are some things that are upstream of identity

Međutim, da postoje neke stvari koje su iznad identiteta,

that matter even more.

koje su još važnije.

You mentioned truth, the pursuit of truth.

Pomenula si istinu, potragu za istinom.

We have common ground on that.

Tu imamo zajedničko stanovište.

I believe that passionately.

Strastveni sam pobornik toga.

I believe that about ideas.

Verujem to u vezi s idejama.

You know that some people want to say that ideas are a property of one group

Znaš kako neki ljudi žele da kažu da su ideje vlasništvo jedne grupe

and that, you know -- but no, no,

i da, znaš - ali ne, ne,

TED is all based on the notion

TED je zasnovan na zamisli

that ideas can spread from any human to any human.

da se ideje mogu širiti među bilo kojim ljudskim bićima.

BW: But the whole question is, sorry to interrupt,

BV: Ali čitavo pitanje glasi, izvinjavam se što upadam,

how do you get to truth, right?

kako dolazimo do istine, zar ne?

And the West has given us the most radical tools in human history.

A Zapad nam je podario najradikalnija oruđa u ljudskoj istoriji.

I think Sam Harris is probably in this room, and I’m stealing his line.

Mislim da je Sem Haris verovatno u ovoj prostoriji i kradem njegovu rečenicu.

But the radical departure is that here, in rooms like this one,

Međutim, radikalno udaljavanje je da ovde, u prostorijama poput ove,

in cultures like the ones that we are lucky enough to live in,

u kulturama poput ovih u kojima smo srećni da živimo,

we don't solve our conflicts with blows and with violence.

ne rešavamo naše konflikte udarcima i nasiljem.

We solve them with words.

Rešavamo ih rečima.

And that is why it is so absolutely crucial,

I zato je to apsolutno ključno,

no matter how people who are really advocating to burn it all down

koliko god da se ljudi uistinu zalagali da se sve to spali do temelja

or tear it all down.

ili sruši u prah.

No, by tearing it all down,

Ne, kada to oborite,

by tearing down the rule of law,

obarajući vladavinu zakona,

by disallowing us to be able to have this kind of debate and discussion,

onemogućavajući nam da budemo u stanju da vodimo ovakve debate i rasprave,

you're preventing the whole project itself.

sprečavate sami projekat.

And that has nothing to do with identity,

I nema to nikakve veze s identitetom,

with claims of victimhood,

sa tvrdnjama o mučeništvu,

with actual victimhood.

sa istinskim mučeništvom.

The entire way that progress has been achieved

Celokupan način na koji je napredak postignut

is by victim groups using the tools

je u tome što su žrtve koristile oruđa

that liberal democracies have provided them with.

koja su im omogućile liberalne demokratije.

Without freedom, without freedom of speech, freedom of religion,

Bez slobode, bez slobode govora, slobode religije,

without the rule of law,

bez vladavine prava,

none of the progress that I know so many people in this room celebrate

ništa od napretka, koji znam da mnogi u ovoj prostoriji slave,

would be possible at all.

ne bi uopšte bio moguć.

And so it's really about clinging to the tools rather than repudiating them.

Te se uistinu radi o prianjanju za oruđa, a ne o njihovom odbacivanju.

CA: I agree with that.

KA: Slažem se s tim.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

But the tools of words in our current culture,

Međutim, oruđe reči u našoj trenutnoj kulturi,

which is sound-bite, fast stuff,

a to su zvučni isečci, brze stvari,

it's so often heard as an assault,

počesto sve to zvuči kao napad,

it's heard not as words and exploration of truth.

ne zvuči kao reči i istraživanje istine.

It's heard as hatred or criticism.

Zvuči kao mržnja ili kritika.

And I just wonder whether there could be a coalition of the willing,

I prosto se pitam da li bismo mogli da imamo koaliciju voljnih,

or double down exactly on what you said,

ili da naglasim upravo ono što si rekla,

let's pursue the truth.

tragajmo za istinom.

Let's pursue the best ideas.

Tragajmo za najboljim idejama.

Let's not be fearful of sharing things that are difficult with each other,

Ne budimo plašljivi da jedni s drugima delimo stvari koje su komplikovane,

but do so in a spirit of love and respect,

ali radimo to u duhu ljubavi i poštovanja,

and so that everyone can know that at heart, they are respected.

i tako da svako zna da su u srži svi poštovani.

We're all trying to make things better.

I da svi pokušavamo da učinimo stvari boljima.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

BW: I don't see anything to disagree with there, only that ...

BV: Ne vidim tu ništa sa čime se ne bih složila, samo da...

you know ...

znaš...

Respect -- like ...

Poštovanje - kao...

Love and compassion and all of that,

Ljubav, saosećajnost, i sve to,

again, it's only possible if we agree to a certain set of rules

ponovo, jedino je moguće ako se svi složimo oko određenog skupa pravila

that I think many of us took for granted

za koji verujem da su mnogi od nas uzeli olako

in the way we take oxygen or gravity for granted.

na način na koji olako uzimamo kiseonik ili gravitaciju.

And one of the things that has driven me and my choices

A jedna od stvari koja je vodila mene i moje izbore

over the past years of my life

u prethodnim godinama mog života

is a profound sense that the line between civilization and barbarism,

je istinski osećaj da linija između civilizacije i varvarizma,

a word that maybe will provoke some people,

reč koja će možda isprovocirati neke ljude,

but I believe is an accurate description,

ali smatram da se radi o preciznom opisu,

is paper thin.

tanja je od papira.

The things that allow for us to do this

Stvari koje nam omogućuju da ovo radimo

are so exceptional,

su toliko izuzetne,

and they have to be fought for.

i moramo se boriti za njih.

And the people that claim that words are violence

A ljudi koji tvrde da su reči nasilje

are taking away

oduzimaju nam

the most fundamental tool we have

najosnovnije oruđe koje imamo

for all of the virtues that I was trying to talk about on stage here this morning.

za sve vrline o kojima sam pokušala da govorim ovde na sceni jutros.

(Cheers and applause)

(Klicanje i aplauz)

CA: Bari, thank you.

KA: Beri, hvala ti.

You've ignited an incredibly important conversation here.

Pokrenula si izuzetno važan razgovor ovde.

Thank you for doing that.

Hvala ti za to.

Please stay, please continue this conversation.

Molim te ostani, molim te nastavi ovaj razgovor.

And thank you for what you said.

I hvala ti za sve što si rekla.

BW: Thanks for having me.

BV: Hvala na pozivu.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)