6 essential lessons for women leaders | Julia Gillard and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala

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6 essential lessons for women leaders | Julia Gillard and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: ์ง€์šฐ ๊ฐ• ๊ฒ€ํ† : Jihyeon J. Kim
00:01
Julia Gillard: Ngozi, 10 years ago when I became prime minister of Australia,
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์ค„๋ฆฌ์•„ ๊ธธ๋ผ๋“œ(JG): ์‘๊ณ ์ง€์”จ, 10๋…„ ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์˜ ๊ตญ๋ฌด์ด๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
00:05
I assumed that at the start, there would be a strong reaction
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์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ์ฒซ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ตญ๋ฌด์ด๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•œ
00:09
to me being the first woman,
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00:10
but it would abide over time
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00:12
and then I would be treated the same as every other Prime Minister had been.
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๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋ฐ˜์‘์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ
00:16
I was so wrong.
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์ด์ „์˜ ๊ตญ๋ฌด์ด๋ฆฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋Œ€์šฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:18
That didn't happen.
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00:19
The longer I governed, the more visible the sexism became.
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์ œ ์˜ˆ์ƒ์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ‹€๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:23
I don't want any other woman to be blindsided like that.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์€ ๋” ๋‘๋“œ๋Ÿฌ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค๋„ ์ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:28
That's why I'm so excited about working with you
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00:30
to help women get ready to lead in what is still a sexist world.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์ ์ธ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ
์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ์ด๋Œ์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋„๋ก ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:36
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala: I share that sense of excitement.
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00:38
After I was finance minister of Nigeria,
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์‘๊ณ ์ง€ ์˜ค์ฝ˜์กฐ-์ด์›จ์•Œ๋ผ(NOI): ์ € ์—ญ์‹œ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:41
I was overwhelmed by the number of women who wanted me to be their mentor.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋ฆฌ์•„์˜ ์žฌ๋ฌด๋ถ€ ์žฅ๊ด€์ด ๋œ ํ›„
์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด์ฃผ๊ธธ ์›ํ•ด ๋‹นํ™ฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:46
It is terrific that aspiring, young women
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00:48
are keen to learn from those who have gone before,
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์•ผ์‹ฌ์ฐฌ ์ Š์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด
00:52
but there are still too few female role models,
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์•ž์„œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:55
especially women of color.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๋กค ๋ชจ๋ธ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:57
Now as a result of the work we have done together,
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ํŠนํžˆ ์œ ์ƒ‰์ธ์ข…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๋กค๋ชจ๋ธ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:00
I can offer everyone clear, standout lessons
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด๋ค„๋‚ธ ์ผ์˜ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋กœ
01:03
that are based not just on my own experience,
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์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋šœ๋ ทํ•œ ๊ตํ›ˆ์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:06
but on the global research on women and leadership
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์ œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๊ณผ,
01:10
and the candid insights of leading women.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ,
01:13
JG: One of the things to share is that there's joy in being a leader --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์˜ ์†”์งํ•œ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ์š”.
JG: ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋กœ์„œ์˜ ๊ธฐ์จ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
in having the opportunity to put your values into action.
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01:21
Emphasizing the positive makes a real difference
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ์‹คํ–‰์— ์˜ฎ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:24
to the power of role modeling.
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๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
01:26
If we only focus on the sexist and negative experiences,
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๋กค๋ชจ๋ธ์˜ ํšจ๊ณผ์— ์žˆ์–ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์ด๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์—๋งŒ ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ˜๋‹ค๋ฉด,
01:31
women may decide that being a leader sounds so grim they don't want to do it.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์€ ๋ฆฌ๋”๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•”์šธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:36
On the other hand,
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01:37
if we pretend it's all rosy and easy,
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด,
01:40
women and girls can be put off
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01:41
because they decide leadership is only for superwomen
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ์žฅ๋ฏธ๋น›์ด๊ณ  ์‰ฌ์šด ์ฒ™ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์€ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์„
01:45
who never have any problems.
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์•„๋ฌด ๋ฌธ์ œ ์—†๋Š” ์Šˆํผ์šฐ๋จผ๋“ค๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ 
01:47
We all have to get the balance right,
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๋ฆฌ๋”๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:50
but Ngozi, it's impossible to talk about role models right now
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ทธ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ๋งž์ถฐ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์‘๊ณ ์ง€์”จ, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ์„œ๋Š”
01:55
without asking you:
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01:56
how does it make you feel to see Kamala Harris elected
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๋กค๋ชจ๋ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ฃ .
01:59
as vice president?
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์นด๋ฉ€๋ผ ํ•ด๋ฆฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€ํ†ต๋ น์ด ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
02:01
NOI: I'm delighted.
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02:02
It's important to the aspiration of girls and women
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
NOI: ์ „ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:06
that they see role models they can relate to.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋กค๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
02:09
Vice President-elect Harris is exactly that kind of role model,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์—ด๋ง์— ์žˆ์–ด ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ถ€ํ†ต๋ น์— ๋‹น์„ ๋œ ํ•ด๋ฆฌ์Šค๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋”ฑ ์•Œ๋งž์€ ๋กค๋ชจ๋ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:13
particularly for girls and women of color.
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02:16
And every woman who steps forward
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ํŠนํžˆ ์œ ์ƒ‰์ธ์ข…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ์š”.
02:18
makes more space for the women who come next.
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์•ž์„œ๊ฐ„ ๋ชจ๋“  ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์€
ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹ค์Œ์— ์˜ฌ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:22
JG: Of course both of us know from our own experiences
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JG: ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:26
that even when women get to the top,
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02:28
unfortunately, too much time and attention will be spent
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ์ •์ƒ์— ์˜ฌ๋ผ์„œ๋„
02:31
on what they look like rather than what they do and say.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์–ธํ–‰๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์™ธ๋ชจ์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์†Œ์š”๋˜๊ณ 
02:35
Ngozi, for women, is it still all about the hair?
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๋ชจ์•„์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„์š”.
์‘๊ณ ์ง€์”จ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋จธ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ์–‘์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
02:40
NOI: Certainly, Julia.
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02:41
I laughed when Hillary Clinton said she envied my dress style,
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NOI: ์ •ํ™•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ €๋Š” ํž๋Ÿฌ๋ฆฌ ํด๋ฆฐํ„ด์ด ์ œ ๋ณต์žฅ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ, ํŠนํžˆ ์ œ ์‹œ๊ทธ๋‹ˆ์ฒ˜ ์Šค์นดํ”„ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
02:45
and particularly my signature scarf,
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02:48
so I don't need to worry about my hair.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์— ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์„ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
02:50
Like many of our women leaders,
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๋ถ€๋Ÿฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ ์›ƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:52
I've effectively adopted a uniform.
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02:54
It's a colorful one,
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๋งŽ์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ
์ € ์—ญ์‹œ ์œ ๋‹ˆํผ์„ ์ž…์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:56
it's African, it's me.
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02:58
I have developed my own style that I wear every day
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ๋ก๋‹ฌ๋กํ•˜๊ณ ,
์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์ €๋ฅผ ๋‹ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:01
and I don't vary from it.
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์ €๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ์ž…๋Š” ์ €๋งŒ์˜ ํŒจ์…˜ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ–ˆ๊ณ 
03:02
That has helped protect me from endless discussion
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:05
of my appearance.
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03:06
It's helped me to get people to listen to my words,
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์ด๋Š” ์ €์˜ ์™ธ๋ชจ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋์—†๋Š” ๋น„๋‚œ์—์„œ ์ €๋ฅผ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:10
not look at my clothes.
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์œ ๋‹ˆํผ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ ์˜ท์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ œ ๋ง์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก
03:12
JG: Hillary told us she lost the equivalent
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๋„์™€์คฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:14
of 24 full days of campaign time
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JG: ํž๋Ÿฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ 2016๋…„ ๋Œ€์„  ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ
03:18
in the 2016 election
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๋งค์ผ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ™”์žฅ์„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
03:21
getting her hair and makeup done every day.
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๊ผฌ๋ฐ• 24์ผ์— ํ•ด๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ญ๋น„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ 
03:24
But actually, contemporary problems for women leaders go far deeper
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๋งํ•ด์คฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์˜ ํ˜„ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”
03:28
than anything to do with looks.
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03:30
I'd better warn you now,
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03:31
I'm about to use a word many people would find rude.
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์™ธ๋ชจ์™€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ด€๋ จ ๊นŠ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณง ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ
03:34
My favorite funny moment in our travels was discussing "resting bitch face"
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ฃผ์˜ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์—ฌํ–‰ ์ค‘ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์›ƒ๊ฒผ๋˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€ ๋…ธ๋ฅด์›จ์ด์˜ ๊ตญ๋ฌด์ด๋ฆฌ ์—๋ฅด๋‚˜ ์†”๋ฒ ๋ฅด๊ทธ์™€
03:40
with Prime Minister Erna Solberg of Norway.
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03:43
The global research shows that if a man comes across as strong, ambitious,
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โ€˜์‰ฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋…„ ์–ผ๊ตดโ€™์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์ธ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•ผ๋ง์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
03:49
even self-seeking,
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03:51
that's fine,
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03:52
but if a woman does it,
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์‚ฌ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์š•์„ ์ฑ„์šฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
03:53
then the reactions against her can be as visceral as revulsion
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์ง€๋งŒ
์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๋ฉด
๊ทธ๋…€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฐ˜์‘์€ ํ˜์˜ค๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ฉธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณธ๋Šฅ์ ์ธ ๋ฐ˜์‘์ด
03:58
or contempt.
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04:00
They're pretty mind-bogglingly strong words, aren't they?
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๋‚˜์˜จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์–ด๋ฆฌ๋‘ฅ์ ˆํ•  ์ •๋„๋กœ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์ด์ฃ ?
04:04
NOI: They certainly are,
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04:05
and women leaders talk about it intuitively,
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NOI: ์ •ํ™•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
understanding that to be viewed as acceptable as a leader,
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์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ฆฌ๋”๋กœ์„œ ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋ ค๋ฉด ํž˜๊ณผ ๊ณต๊ฐ ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ
04:13
they have to stay balanced on a tightrope between strength and empathy.
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์ค„ํƒ€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ์žก์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
04:17
If they come across as too tough,
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04:19
they're viewed as hard and unlikeable.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ฉด
04:21
But if they come across as too soft,
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๋”ฑ๋”ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๋น„๊ธธ ๋ฐ ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ
04:24
they seem to be lacking the backbone needed to lead.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ถ€๋“œ๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ฉด
04:28
JG: The problem is we still all have sexist stereotypes
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์ค๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:31
whirring in the back of our brains.
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JG: ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋งˆ์Œ ์† ๊นŠ์ด
04:34
I was portrayed as out of touch because I don't have children.
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์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์ ์ธ ๊ณ ์ •๊ด€๋…์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:37
I was even compared to a barren cow in the bush,
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์ €๋Š” ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋กœ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๋ ค์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:41
destined to be killed for hamburger mince.
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋ค๋ถˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถˆ๋ชจ์˜ ์†Œ์™€๋„ ๋น„๊ต๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:44
NOI: That's horrible that you faced that stereotype.
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ํ–„๋ฒ„๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์ง€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ์†Œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:47
While I was worried that people would think I couldn't do my job
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NOI: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ณ ์ •๊ด€๋…์„ ๋งˆ์ฃผํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ ๋”์ฐํ•˜๋„ค์š”.
04:50
when my family was young,
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์ œ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฆฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ• ๊นŒ๋ด
04:52
I enjoyed talking to New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern
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๊ฑฑ์ •๋  ๋•Œ,
04:56
about her experience as the second woman ever
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์ €๋Š” ๊ตญ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋„์ž์˜ ์ž๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ธ
04:59
to have a child while being a national leader.
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๋‰ด์งˆ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ๊ตญ๋ฌด์ด๋ฆฌ ์ €์‹ ๋‹ค ์•„๋˜๊ณผ
05:02
I was very taken by her saying
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
she doesn't think she gets the work-life balance right,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ โ€˜๊ท ํ˜•โ€™์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ์ฃ„์ฑ…๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋กœ
05:07
in the sense that she doesn't like the word "balance,"
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ผ๊ณผ ์‚ถ์˜ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ์ž˜ ๋งž์ถ˜๋‹ค๊ณ 
05:10
and there's always guilt.
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
05:12
She just makes it work.
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๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๊ฐ๋ช… ๊นŠ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:15
JG: Ngozi, where are men in this?
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ๋˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:17
NOI: Hopefully, manning up.
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JG: ์‘๊ณ ์ง€์”จ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
05:19
Men can more equitably share domestic and care work.
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NOI: ๋‚จ์ž๋‹ต๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:23
They can point out sexism when they see it.
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๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ • ์ผ๊ณผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:26
They can make space for women
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ์ด๋ฅผ ์ง€์ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:27
and mentor and sponsor them.
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05:29
Given that men disproportionately still have the power,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ 
๋ฉ˜ํ† ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์ง€์›ํ•ด์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:32
we won't see change unless they work with us
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๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ถˆ๊ท ํ˜•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ํž˜์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
05:35
to create a world that will be better for men and women.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‚จ์ž์™€ ์—ฌ์ž์—๊ฒŒ
05:39
JG: Let's talk about the "glass cliff" phenomenon.
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๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด์ƒ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:42
If a business or an organization is going well,
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JG: โ€˜์œ ๋ฆฌ ์ ˆ๋ฒฝโ€™ ํ˜„์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
05:45
then they're likely to appoint a new leader
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ์—…์ด๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์—…์ด ์ž˜ ์šด์˜๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
05:47
who looks a lot like the old one --
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05:49
that is, a man.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด์ „์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋”์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฆฌ๋”๋ฅผ
05:51
But if they are in difficulties,
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์ž„๋ช…ํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:53
they decide it's time to get someone quite different,
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๋‚จ์ž ๋ฆฌ๋”๋ฅผ์š”.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋ ค์›€์— ์ฒ˜ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•
05:56
and often reach for a woman.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋งž์ดํ•  ์ฐจ๋ก€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ 
05:58
To take one example,
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06:00
Christine Lagarde became the first woman to lead the International Monetary Fund
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์ข…์ข… ์—ฌ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ ์†์„ ๋ป—๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์ž๋ฉด,
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ด ๋ผ๊ฐ€๋ฅด๋“œ๋Š” ์ด์ „์˜ ๋Œ€ํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์„ฑํญํ–‰์œผ๋กœ ์ฒดํฌ๋˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ
06:05
when it was in crisis after its former head was arrested for sexual assault.
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์œ„๊ธฐ์— ๋น ์ง„ ๊ตญ์ œํ†ตํ™”๊ธฐ๊ธˆ์„ ์ด๋„๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:10
Ngozi, while not as dramatic as that,
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06:13
you know a bit about glass cliffs too.
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์‘๊ณ ์ง€์”จ, ์ด๋งŒํผ ๋“œ๋ผ๋งˆํ‹ฑํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š์•„๋„
06:16
NOI: I certainly do.
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์œ ๋ฆฌ ์ ˆ๋ฒฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”.
06:18
I remember clearly being chosen, as a young woman,
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NOI: ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:21
to lead a very problematic World Bank project in Rwanda.
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์ €๋Š” ์ Š์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋ฅด์™„๋‹ค์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์€ํ–‰ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋ฅผ
06:25
No one else wanted to lead it,
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์ด๋Œ๋„๋ก ์ž„๋ช…๋œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:27
lest they fail.
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06:28
So there was this attitude of "if she pulls it off, it's OK.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‹คํŒจํ•  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•ด
์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋‚˜์„œ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:32
If she fails, then, well, she's just a young African woman
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ํƒœ๋„๋Š”, โ€œ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹คํ–‰์ด๊ณ 
06:36
whose career doesn't matter that much."
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์‹คํŒจํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ Š์€ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ผ ๋ฟ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€.โ€
06:38
From that experience,
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ํ•˜๋Š” ํƒœ๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:40
I learned things about myself and leadership,
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06:42
and the biggest lesson we can share is this:
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์ด ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ†ตํ•ด
์ €๋Š” ์ € ์ž์‹ ๊ณผ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:45
if you have a sense of purpose that drives you,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ตํ›ˆ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:48
then aim high --
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์›€์ง์ด๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
06:49
become a leader.
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06:51
And make room as you go.
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๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋†’๊ฒŒ ์žก๊ณ 
๋ฆฌ๋”๊ฐ€ ๋˜์„ธ์š”.
06:54
Former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is fond of saying
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๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ์„ธ์š”.
06:58
that there's a special place in hell for women who don't support women.
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์ „ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ตญ๋ฌด์žฅ๊ด€ ๋งค๋“ค๋ฆฐ ์˜ฌ๋ธŒ๋ผ์ดํŠธ๋Š”
์—ฌ์„ฑ์„ ์ง€์ง€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ง€์˜ฅ์— ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์ด ๋”ฐ๋กœ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:03
In this world,
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07:04
we need to be there for each other.
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์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ
07:07
JG: There's a bit of good news and bad news here.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:10
Certainly the research shows
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JG: ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹๊ณผ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:12
that the stereotype about the businesswoman
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋Š”
07:14
who makes it to the top
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์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์˜ค๋ฅธ ๋’ค
07:16
and then stops other women coming through
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง‰์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š”
07:19
isn't borne out by the facts.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ ์‚ฌ์—…๊ฐ€๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณ ์ •๊ด€๋…์ด
07:21
The constraint seems to be
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07:22
that organizations think once they've got a woman or two,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ œ์•ฝ์€
07:26
they don't need to worry about gender anymore.
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๊ธฐ์—…๋“ค์ด ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด๋‚˜ ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์„ ๋“ค์ด๋ฉด
07:29
But we do have to be frank --
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์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„  ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ ๋น„๋กฏ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:31
women do get pitted against other women
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์†”์งํ•ด์งˆ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:34
for the limited number of seats at the table.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์€ ์‹ํƒ์˜ ์ œํ•œ๋œ ์ž๋ฆฌ ์ˆ˜ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
07:37
We have to be wary of having our solidarity with each other eroded
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ฒจ๋ฃจ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํฌ์†Œ์˜ ์ •์น˜ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์„œ๋กœ๊ฐ„์˜ ์—ฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๊นจ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
07:41
by these politics of scarcity.
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07:44
Instead, we should work together to change the rules
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๊ฒฝ๊ณ„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:47
that keep us at the margins.
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๋Œ€์‹ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทœ์น™์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
07:50
NOI: So to summarize, our standout lessons are ...
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๊ฐ™์ด ์›€์ง์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:54
Number one, there's no right way to be a woman leader.
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NOI: ์š”์•ฝํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
07:57
Be true to yourself.
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์ฒซ์งธ, ์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ง€๋„์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ๊ธธ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:59
JG: Number two,
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08:00
we know that women leaders face sexism and stereotyping,
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์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ถฉ์‹คํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
JG: ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ,
08:04
so sit down with your mentors,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์ด ์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์ฃผ์˜์™€ ๊ณ ์ •๊ด€๋…์— ์ง๋ฉดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:06
sponsors, best supporters and friends
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฉ˜ํ† , ํ›„์›์ž,
08:08
and war-game.
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์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ง€์ง€์ž, ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•‰์•„์„œ
08:10
How are you going to deal with the gendered moments,
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08:12
with being judged on your appearance,
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์ „์Ÿ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
08:14
with being assumed to be a bit of a bitch
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08:16
or with your family choices questioned?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์™ธ๋ชจ๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ ,
๋‚˜์œ ๋…„์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ถ”์ •๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ 
08:18
Forewarned is forearmed.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ ์„ ํƒ์„ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๋“ค์—์„œ์š”.
08:21
NOI: Number three,
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๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๊ณง ๊ฒฝ๋น„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:23
let everyone you know talking about gender stereotypes
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์‘๊ณ ์ง€: ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ,
08:26
and debunking them:
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์„ฑ ๊ณ ์ •๊ด€๋…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
08:27
these false assumptions can't survive being held up to the light of day.
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ํ‹€๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๊ฐ€์ •์€ ๋‚ฎ์˜ ๋น›์— ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:32
JG: Number four, there are structural barriers too.
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08:35
Don't wait until you need help balancing work and family life
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JG: ๋„ค ๋ฒˆ์งธ, ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์žฅ๋ฒฝ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ€์ •์ผ์„ ๊ท ํ˜• ์žก๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€,
08:40
or to be fairly evaluated for promotion.
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08:43
Be a supporter of systems and changes that aid gender equality
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๋˜๋Š” ์Šน์ง„์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ํ‰๋“ฑํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋ฐ›์„ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
์„ฑํ‰๋“ฑ์„ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์žฅ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋”๋ผ๋„
08:48
even if you don't personally need them immediately.
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์„ฑํ‰๋“ฑ์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ์ง€์ง€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜์„ธ์š”.
08:52
NOI: Number five, don't take a backwards step.
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08:55
Don't shy away from taking up space in the world.
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NOI: ๋‹ค์„ฏ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ๋’ค๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
08:59
Don't assume you're too junior or people are too busy.
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์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ”ผํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์–ด๋ฆฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”์œ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
09:03
Reach out, network.
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09:05
JG: That's great advice,
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๋ป—์–ด๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
09:07
and leads us to the most important lesson of all --
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JG: ๊ต‰์žฅํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด๋ฉด์„œ
09:10
go for it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ตํ›ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Œ์–ด์ฃผ๋„ค์š”.
09:12
NOI: Yes, go for it.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
09:14
JG: (Laughs) Thank you.
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NOI: ๋งž์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
09:16
NOI: Thank you.
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JG: (์›ƒ์Œ) ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
NOI: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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