How to quickly scale up contact tracing across the US | Joia Mukherjee

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Nahee Jeong ๊ฒ€ํ† : Eunice Yunjung Nam
00:13
Chris Anderson: Joia, both you and Partners In Health
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค ์•ค๋”์Šจ(CA): ์กฐ์ด์•„, ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์Šค ์ธ ํ—ฌ์Šค์™€
00:16
have spent decades in various battlegrounds,
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ „ํˆฌํ˜„์žฅ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์‹ญ๋…„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์˜ค์‹œ๋ฉด์„œ
00:20
battling epidemics.
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์ „์—ผ๋ณ‘๊ณผ ์‹ธ์›Œ์˜ค์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
00:21
Perhaps, for context, you could give us a couple examples of that work.
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ํ˜น์‹œ, ์ดํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
00:27
Joia Mukherjee: Yeah, so Partners In Health
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์กฐ์ด์•„ ๋ฌด์ปค์ง€ (JM) :๋„ค. ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์Šค ์ธ ํ—ฌ์Šค๋Š”
00:29
is a global nonprofit that is more than 30 years old.
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์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์ธ ๋น„์˜๋ฆฌ ๋‹จ์ฒด๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ์ง€ 30๋…„์ด ๋„˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:33
We started famously in Haiti in a squatter settlement,
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์›๋ž˜ ์•„์ดํ‹ฐ์—์„œ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•๊ฑฐ์ฃผ์ž ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋ฉด์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:37
people who were displaced.
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์˜ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•๊ฑฐ์ฃผ์ž๋“ค์€ ์ซ“๊ฒจ๋‚œ ์ƒํƒœ์˜€์ฃ .
00:39
And when we talked to them,
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๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋ฉด์„œ
00:40
they wanted health care and education,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑด ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์™€ ๊ต์œก,
00:43
houses, jobs.
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์ง‘, ์ง์—…์ด๋ผ๋Š”๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
00:44
And that has informed our work,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€
00:46
that proximity to people who are suffering.
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๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋•๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๋“ค์˜ ์ผ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด์š”.
00:51
When you think about health care and the poor,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์˜๋ฃŒ์„œ๋น„์Šค์™€ ๊ฐ€๋‚œ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‘๊ณ  ๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
00:54
there is always disproportionate suffering
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ดํ‹ฐ์—์„œ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ณต๋™์ฒด์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด
00:57
for people who have been historically marginalized,
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์—ญ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์†Œ์™ธ๋œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
01:00
like our communities that we serve in Haiti.
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๋ถˆํ‰๋“ฑ ๋Œ€์šฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:03
And so we've always tried to provide health care
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด ์‚ฌํšŒ ์†์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
01:06
for the poorest people on earth.
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์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:09
And we were launched into an international dialogue
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์•ฝ๋ฌผ๋‚ด์„ฑ ๊ฒฐํ•ต,
์ธ๊ฐ„๋ฉด์—ญ๊ฒฐํ• ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค์—๋„
01:12
about whether that was possible
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ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํœ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ
01:14
for drug-resistant tuberculosis, for HIV.
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๊ตญ์ œ์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜ ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋…ผ์˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:18
Indeed, for surgery, for cancer,
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—, ์ˆ˜์ˆ , ์•”,
01:21
for mental health,
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์ •์‹ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•
01:23
for noncommunicable diseases.
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๋น„์ „์—ผ์„ฑ ์งˆ๋ณ‘๋“ค์„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ์š”.
01:25
And we believe it's possible,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ณ 
01:28
and it is part of the basic human right to care.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผ ํ• 
์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:32
So when COVID started, we saw this immediately as a threat
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ž‘๋์„ ๋•Œ
์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ๊ณค์ธต์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์ฆ‰๊ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ„ํ˜‘ํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:37
to the health of people who were the poorest.
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01:39
And Partners In Health now works in 11 countries,
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ํ˜„์žฌ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์Šค ์ธ ํ—ฌ์Šค๋Š” 11๊ฐœ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์šด์˜์ค‘์ด๋ฉฐ,
01:42
five on the African continent,
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๊ตฌ์†Œ๋ จ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
01:44
Latin America and the Caribbean,
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๋ผํ‹ด ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด์™€ ์บ๋ฆฌ๋น„์•ˆ,
01:45
as well as the former Soviet Union.
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ๋Œ€๋ฅ™์—๋„ 5๊ณณ์ด ์šด์˜๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:48
And we immediately prepared to scale up testing,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ฆ‰์‹œ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ,
01:52
contact tracing, treatment, care,
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ, ์น˜๋ฃŒ, ์„œ๋น„์Šค ํ™•์žฅ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
01:55
and then saw that it wasn't being done in the United States in that way.
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๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ
์šด์˜๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:00
And in fact, we were just sitting, passively waiting for people to get sick
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„ํŒŒ์„œ ๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฐ›์„ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€
๊ทธ์ € ์† ๋†“๊ณ  ์•‰์•„์„œ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:04
and treat them in hospital.
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02:06
And that message got to the governor of Massachusetts,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋งค์‚ฌ์ถ”์„ธ์ธ ์˜ ์ฃผ์ง€์‚ฌ๊ป˜์„œ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
02:10
and we started supporting the state to do contact tracing for COVID,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์‚ฌ์ถ”์„ธ์ธ  ์ฃผ์˜
์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ
๋•๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:14
with the very idea that this would help us identify and resource
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ™•์ง„์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ณ 
์ž์›์„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ทจ์•ฝํ•œ ์‚ฌํšŒ์— ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋•๋Š”
๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋กœ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
02:20
the communities that were most vulnerable.
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02:24
CA: So it's really quite ironic that these decades of experience
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CA: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ๋„์ƒ๊ตญ๊ณผ
๊ทธ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ์˜
02:29
in the developing world and elsewhere,
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๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์‹ญ๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„
02:31
that that has now really been seen as a crucial need to bring to the US.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฒŒ ๊ฝค ์•„์ด๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ํ•˜๋„ค์š”.
02:37
And especially to bring your expertise around contact tracing.
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ํŠนํžˆ, ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ ์ „๋ฌธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„์š”.
02:39
So, talk a bit about contact tracing,
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋„ค์š”.
02:42
why does it matter so much,
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์™œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ?
02:44
and what would, I don't know,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์ด, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊น,
02:46
a perfect contact tracing setup look like?
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ
์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
02:51
JM: Well, first I want to say that you want to, always,
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JM: ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ
02:55
in any type of illness,
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์–ด๋– ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด๋“ 
02:57
you want to do prevention,
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์˜ˆ๋ฐฉ, ์ง„๋‹จ๊ณผ ์น˜๋ฃŒ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ฑด ์„œ๋น„์Šค๊ฐ€
02:59
and diagnosis and treatment and care.
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด์ฃ .
03:03
That is what comprehensive approaches look like,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข…ํ•ฉ์  ์ ‘๊ทผ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:06
and that "care" piece, to us,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ "๋ณด๊ฑด ์„œ๋น„์Šค" ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€
03:08
is about the provision of social support and material support
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์‚ฌํšŒ์ , ๋ฌผ์งˆ์  ์ง€์› ์ œ๊ณต์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜์ฃ .
03:13
to allow people to get the care they need.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ณด์‚ดํ•Œ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ๋”์š”.
๊ทธ ๋ณด์‚ดํ•Œ์€ ๊ตํ†ต์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์Œ์‹์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ .
03:16
So that might be transportation, it might be food.
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03:19
So when you look at that comprehensive approach,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ „์—ผ๋ณ‘์„
03:22
for an infectious disease,
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์ข…ํ•ฉ์  ์ ‘๊ทผ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด
03:23
part of prevention is knowing where the disease is spreading
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์˜ˆ๋ฐฉ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””๋กœ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด ํผ์ ธ ๊ฐˆ์ง€,
03:28
and how it's spreading and in whom it's spreading,
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด ํผ์งˆ์ง€,
๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ ํผ์ ธ ๊ฐˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:31
so that resources can be disproportionately put
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ณ‘์„ ์˜ˆ๋ฐฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ž์›๋“ค์ด
๊ณ ์œ„ํ—˜ ์ง€์—ญ์— ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ๊ฒŒ ์ง€์›๋˜์ฃ .
03:35
to the highest-risk areas.
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03:37
So contact tracing is a staple of public health
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ณต ๋ณด๊ฑด์˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฐ๋ฌผ์ธ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
03:40
and what it means is that every time a new person is diagnosed
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค ๋˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ „์—ผ๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฐ
03:44
with COVID or any infectious disease,
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ™•์ง„์ž๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
03:47
then you investigate and innumerate the people they've been in contacts with,
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์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„œ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž์˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์„ธ๊ณ 
03:53
and call those contacts and say, "You've been exposed,"
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๊ทธ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„œ
" ์ „์—ผ๋ณ‘์— ๋…ธ์ถœ์ด ๋˜์…จ์–ด์š”" ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
03:58
or talk to them, "You've been exposed,
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"๊ฐ์—ผ๋ณ‘์— ๋…ธ์ถœ ๋˜์…จ์œผ๋‹ˆ
04:00
these are the things you need to know.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…”์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:03
First of all, how are you?
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์šฐ์„  ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
04:04
Do you need care yourself?"
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๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ •๋„์˜ ์ƒํƒœ์ด์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ 
04:06
And facilitating that.
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๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด์ฃ 
04:08
"Second of all, these are the information you need to know to keep yourself safe.
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"๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€
์ž์‹  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€ํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
04:12
About quarantine, about prevention."
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์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•  ์ •๋ณด๋“ค์ด์—์š”. ๊ฒฉ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ์˜ˆ๋ฐฉ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”."
04:15
And again, this would be with any infectious disease,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ์ „์—ผ๋ณ‘์—๋„ ์ ์šฉ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ด์š”.
04:18
from Ebola, to cholera, to a sexually transmitted disease like HIV.
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์—๋ณผ๋ผ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ ์ฝœ๋ ˆ๋ผ, HIV์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์„ฑ๋ณ‘๊นŒ์ง€๋„์š”
04:24
And then we say,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
"์šฐ์„ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ์ง€ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•ด์„œ ์—ฌ์ญค๋ณด๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
04:26
"OK, knowing what you know,
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04:29
do you have the means to protect yourself?"
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?"
04:32
Because often the most vulnerable
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ทจ์•ฝ๊ณ„์ธต์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ข…์ข…
04:35
do not have the means to protect themselves.
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์ž๊ธฐ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
04:38
So that is also where this resource component comes in
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๋˜ํ•œ
์ž์› ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:42
and where equity is so critical
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ์—์„œ๋Š”
04:45
to making this disease stop
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์งˆ๋ณ‘์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ 
04:50
and also getting the information and the resources
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด์™€ ์ž์›์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
์ •๋ณด์™€ ์ž์›์„ ๋งˆ๋ จํ•ด ์ฃผ๋Š”๋ฐ์— ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:53
to people who need them the most.
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04:56
CA: And in a pandemic, the people who need them the most,
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CA: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŒฌ๋”๋ฏน์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ, ์ •๋ณด์™€ ์ž์›์„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
05:00
the most vulnerable, as you say,
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์ฆ‰, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹ ๋Œ€๋กœ
๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ทจ์•ฝํ•œ ๊ณ„์ธต์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์€
05:03
are probably also --
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋˜ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ํผ์ง€๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.
05:04
That's where the disease is spreading a lot.
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05:06
It's in everyone's interest to do this.
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์กฐ์ด์•„ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ์ผ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
05:08
You're not just making this sort of, wonderful, equity moral point
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์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋†“์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋„์™€์ค˜์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”
ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋„๋•์  ๊ณตํ‰์„ฑ ๋ฌธ์ œ์—๋งŒ ์น˜์šฐ์น˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
05:12
that we've got to help these people.
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05:13
It's actually in all of our interest, right?
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
05:16
JM: Yes.
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JM: ๋„ค.
05:17
Yes, we are one humanity,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ํ•œ ์ธ๋ฅ˜์ฃ .
05:20
and any disease, any infectious disease that is spreading
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์–ด๋–ค ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด๋“ , ํผ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ „์—ผ๋ณ‘์ด๋“ 
05:24
is a threat to all of us.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์œ„ํ˜‘์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:26
And that is one of the pieces, there's the moral imperative,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ผ ๋ฟ์ด์ฃ .
์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ ๋„๋•์  ์˜๋ฌด, ์—ญํ•™์  ์˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์กด์žฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:31
there is the epidemiologic imperative,
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05:34
that if you can't control these diseases everywhere,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์–ด๋Š ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋“ ์ง€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์„ ์ œ์••ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
05:37
that it's a threat anywhere.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์ด ์งˆ๋ณ‘์˜ ์œ„ํ˜‘์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:39
And so as we look to the kind of society we want to live in,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
05:44
good health is something that gives us all so much return on our investment.
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์ข‹์€ ๋ณด๊ฑด์€ ํˆฌ์ž ๋Œ€๋น„ ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์ต์„ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
05:51
CA: Now, some countries were able to use contact tracing
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CA: ํ˜„์žฌ, ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
05:54
almost to shut down the pandemic before it took off in that country.
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์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์œ ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ์ „์— ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน ์ข…๋ฃŒ ์ง์ „์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
05:59
The US was unable to do that,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์ฃ .
06:01
and some people have taken the view
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
06:03
that therefore, contact tracing became irrelevant,
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์ ์€ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
06:06
that the strategy was mitigation, shut everything down.
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์กฐ์‚ฌ ์ „๋žต์€ ์™„ํ™”๋˜๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š”
๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•ด ์™”์ฃ .
06:10
You've argued against that,
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์กฐ์ด์•„์”จ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํ•˜์…จ์ฃ .
06:12
that even in a process of lockdown
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋ชจ๋“  ํ™œ๋™์˜ ์ œ์žฌ ์ค‘์ž„์—๋„
06:15
that actually contact tracing plays a key role.
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์š”ํ•œ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์ž…์ฆํ•ด ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์…จ์–ด์š”.
06:18
Help us understand the scale,
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์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์„ค๋ช…์„ ๋ถ€ํƒํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
06:21
when there's a lot of cases,
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ณ 
06:22
the scale of tracing, both cases
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์ถ”์ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•  ๋•Œ,
06:25
and everyone they may have been in contact with
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž๋“ค๊ณผ
06:27
and their contacts.
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์ ‘์ด‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ž–์•„์š”.
06:28
It quickly gets to a huge problem.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ง‰๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ž–์•„์š”.
06:30
JM: It's massive.
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JM: ์–ด๋งˆ์–ด๋งˆํ•˜์ฃ .
06:32
CA: What sort of workforce do you need to make a difference
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CA: ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ
06:35
at this moment, where the US is at?
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์–ด๋–ค ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
06:39
JM: It's massive.
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JM: ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ฃ .
06:40
I mean, the scale is massive,
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ฃ .
06:42
and we should not take that lightly.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์„  ์•ˆ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:44
And we don't, at Partners In Health.
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ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์Šค ์ธ ํ—ฌ์Šค์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ .
06:46
I mean, we are willing to try to figure this out,
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์ œ ๋œป์€, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:50
and I always feel that if we could stop Ebola
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋นˆ๊ณคํ•œ ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ
06:53
in some of the poorest countries in the world,
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์—๋ณผ๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋ง‰์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋„ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์„œ ๋ง‰์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:56
of course we ought to do it here,
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06:58
and was it too late when there were 28,000 deaths in Ebola?
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์—๋ณผ๋ผ๋กœ 2๋งŒ 8์ฒœ ๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ง์ž๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๊ฑด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์€ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:03
Sure, it's always too late.
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07:06
We should have started earlier,
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:08
but it's not too late to have an impact.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์ฃผ ๋Šฆ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:10
And so there's three aspects of timing and scale.
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์‹œ๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์— ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
First is, the earlier you start,
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š”, ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก
07:17
the better, right?
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๋” ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
07:18
And that's what we saw in Rwanda.
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์ด๊ฑด ๋ฅด์™„๋‹ค์—์„œ ํ™•์ธ๋œ ๋ฐ”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ .
07:20
They went from early testing and contact tracing,
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๋ฅด์™„๋‹ค์—์„œ ์ผ์ฐ์ด ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ์™€ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์‹ค์‹œํ–ˆ๊ณ 
07:24
the first two cases entered into the country on March 15,
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์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ ๋‘ ํ™•์ง„์ž๊ฐ€ 3์›” 15์ผ ๋ฅด์™„๋‹ค์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:29
and in one month,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ
07:30
because of contact tracing, isolation and plenty of testing,
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์ ์กฐ์‚ฌ, ๊ฒฉ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋“ค ๋•๋ถ„์—
07:34
they had held that case rate to 134 people.
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134๋ช…๋งŒ์ด ํ™•์ง„๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:38
It's remarkable, it's remarkable.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋†€๋ž๊ณ  ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•  ๋งŒํ•  ์ˆ˜์น˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:40
In the state of Georgia, where is home to the CDC,
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CDC๊ฐ€ ์œ„์น˜ํ•œ ์กฐ์ง€์•„ ์ฃผ์—๋Š”
07:44
similar population size, about 12 million,
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๋ฅด์™„๋‹ค์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ธ๊ตฌ์ธ ์•ฝ 1์ฒœ 2๋ฐฑ๋งŒ๋ช…์ด ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
07:47
from the first two cases in the first month,
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์ฒซ ๋‘๋ช…์˜ ํ™•์ง„์ž ๋ฐœ์ƒ ํ›„, ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ํ•œ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ๋งŒ
07:50
those cases became 4,400 cases.
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ํ™•์ง„์ž ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ 4,400๋ช…์œผ๋กœ ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”.
07:53
And in the country of Belgium,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋ฒจ๊ธฐ์—์—์„œ๋„
07:56
a similar population,
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07:57
those two cases became 7,400.
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์ฒซ ๋‘๋ช…์˜ ํ™•์ง„์ž๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด 7,400๋ช…์œผ๋กœ ๋Š˜์–ด๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”.
08:00
So you do have to make scale to stop this.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน์„ ๋๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด์ œ ์ •๋ง ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์›Œ์•ผ ํ•ด์š”.
08:04
But the earlier you do it,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก
08:05
the more benefits there are to your society
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌํšŒ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์ ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
08:08
and also to the other people who need medical services --
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๋˜ํ•œ ์˜๋ฃŒ์„œ๋น„์Šค๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
08:13
women who are pregnant,
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์ฆ‰, ์ž„์‹ ํ•œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค,
08:14
people who need their fracture repaired,
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๊ณจ์ ˆ์„ ์น˜๋ฃŒํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
08:17
because services themselves in the United States
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ž์ฒด๋กœ
08:19
have been, you know, really hampered by this huge amount of COVID.
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์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์•„์ฃผ ์ œํ•œ๋˜์–ด ์™”์ฃ .
08:24
So the first point is,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€
08:27
it's always late, but it's never too late.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋Šฆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:30
Why?
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์™œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋ƒ๋ฉด
08:32
Because vulnerable populations are sitting ducks,
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์ทจ์•ฝ๊ณ„์ธต์€ ๋ฌผ๊ฐ€์— ๋‚ด๋†“์•„์ง„ ์•„์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฆ„์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
08:36
and so imagine if one of your contacts was a nursing assistant
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ค‘ ํ•œ๋ช…์ด ์š”์–‘์›์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ์กฐ๋ฌด์‚ฌ์˜€๋‹ค๋ฉด
08:41
who worked in a nursing home.
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08:43
We know that one nursing assistant can spread it throughout a nursing home.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ์กฐ๋ฌด์‚ฌ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
์š”์–‘์› ์ „์ฒด์— ๋ณ‘์„ ํผํŠธ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
08:48
And is it important to identify that person as a contact
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ณ 
08:51
and assure that he or she is able to remain quarantined?
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ณ„์† ๊ฒฉ๋ฆฌ๋œ ์ƒํƒœ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:55
That is critical.
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๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ฃ .
08:57
And so it's hard to say,
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"๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ํ•œ ๋‘์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฐ์—ผ๋œ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋ฉด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์ง€."
08:59
"Well, it's not worth it if it's just one person, two persons."
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๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:02
Every life matters,
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๋ชจ๋‘์˜ ์ƒ๋ช…์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ด๊ณ 
09:03
and all of their contacts in the community of that person matters as well.
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๊ทธ ๋‹จ์ฒด์—์„œ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ ‘์ด‰ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:08
So that's one thing.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์˜€๊ณ ์š”.
09:10
The second about scale is people need jobs right now.
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๊ทœ๋ชจ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์žฅ ์ง์—…์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
09:14
And they want to be part of a solution,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์˜ ์ผํ™˜์ด ๋˜๊ธธ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:16
and some of the frustration we see,
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๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋˜ ๋ถˆ๋งŒ๋“ค,
09:19
the antilockdown movement,
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์ง€์—ญ ํ์‡„ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ ์šด๋™,
09:21
is really out of anger and frustration
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ„๋…ธ์™€ ๋ถˆ๋งŒ์— ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
09:23
and feeling, "What can we do?"
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"์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฐ€"๋ผ๋Š” ๋ถˆ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:27
And so this gives people this feeling that they're part of a solution
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์กฐ์‚ฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ ํ™•์žฅ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์ฑ…์˜ ์ผํ™˜์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ 
09:31
and can provide thousands of jobs.
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์ˆ˜์ฒœ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:35
And then third, I would say, for us to reopen our schools,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•™๊ต,
09:40
our churches, our workplaces,
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๊ตํšŒ, ์ง์—… ๊ณต๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์—ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
09:42
we have to know where the virus is spreading
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์–ด๋””์—์„œ ๋ฐ”์ด๋Ÿฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ํผ์ง€๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:45
so that we don't just continue on this path.
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๊ณ„์† ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธธ์„ ๊ฑท์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
09:49
And so contact tracing provides the platform to control,
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์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฒ•์€ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์„ ์ œ์••ํ•  ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
09:52
but also to see outbreaks in real time popping up,
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์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ฐœ๋ณ‘์„ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๊ณ 
09:55
and then respond promptly.
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์ ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
So there are many reasons that we have to bring this to scale now.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์กฐ์‚ฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํ™•์žฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์œ ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:01
Even though it is tardy.
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๋น„๋ก ๋Š๋ฆฌ๋”๋ผ๋„์š”.
10:05
CA: So especially as we have this pressure to go back to work,
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CA: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ํŠนํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ ์ž ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:08
like, contact tracing has to be part of that strategy,
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฒ•์ด ์ „๋žต์˜ ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋„ค์š”.
10:12
or we're just inviting another disaster in a few weeks' time.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด, ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์•ˆ์— ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฌ์•™์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์˜ค๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ฒ ์ฃ .
10:16
Whatever you make of what's happened during this mitigation process.
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์ด ์™„ํ™” ๊ณผ์ • ์ค‘ ๋ฐœ์ƒ๋  ๊ทธ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๊ฐ„์—์š”.
10:20
JM: Exactly, exactly.
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JM: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ 
10:22
Exactly, and so that's such an important part, Chris,
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์ •ํ™•ํ•ด์š”, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค. ์ด๊ฑด ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ .
10:25
and something that we are just really keen
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ด์œ ์ด์ฃ .
10:28
to look at the United States in a different way.
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10:31
What are the long-term public health infrastructures
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ, ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ํ™•์‚ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์žˆ์„ ์œ ํ–‰๋ณ‘๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ญํ•ด์„œ
10:35
that we need to protect us for the second wave, the third wave
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๊ณต๊ณต ๋ณด๊ฑด ์‚ฌํšŒ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์‹œ์„ค๋“ค์ด
10:40
and in the future, for future pandemics?
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
10:44
CA: Whitney.
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CA: ํœ˜ํŠธ๋‹ˆ,
10:46
Whitney Pennington Rodgers: You know, to that point,
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ํœ˜ํŠธ๋‹ˆ ํŽ˜๋‹ํ„ด ๋กœ์ €์Šค (WPR): ๋„ค, ๊ทธ ์˜๊ฒฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ
10:48
there is a question out there from one of our anonymous
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์ต๋ช…์˜ ๋‹จ์ฒด ํšŒ์› ์ค‘ ํ•œ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
10:51
community members,
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10:52
about why contact tracing isn't already part of our public health system.
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฒ•์ด ์™œ ์ผ์ฐ์ด ๊ณต๊ณต ๋ณด๊ฑด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ํฌํ•จ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
10:55
It seems like it does make a lot of sense
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์งˆ๋ณ‘์˜ ํ™•์‚ฐ์„ ์™„ํ™”์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด
10:57
its a way to mitigate the spread of disease.
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์ผ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ ์š”.
11:00
Could you speak a little bit to that?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
11:02
JM: I think many people have said --
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JM: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
11:05
and I am not a politician --
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๋น„๋ก ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •์น˜์ธ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
11:07
that our American health care infrastructure
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ณด๊ฑด ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌํšŒ ์‹œ์„ค์ด
11:11
is built on treatment and not prevention.
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์น˜๋ฃŒ์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ์˜ˆ๋ฐฉ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ์š”.
11:15
It's built on procedures
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ ˆ์ฐจ์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:20
and not keeping people well.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•จ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ์š”.
11:22
And some of that was driven by profit,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌํšŒ ์‹œ์„ค ์ค‘ ๋ช‡๋ช‡์€ ์ˆ˜์ต์— ์˜ํ•ด ์šด์˜๋˜๊ณ ,
11:24
and some of that was driven by need,
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ๋ช‡๋ช‡์€ ํ•„์š”์— ์˜ํ•ด์„œ ์šด์˜์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
11:28
but I think we need to rethink how we deliver care in this environment.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค ์ œ๊ณตํ• ๊นŒ๋ฅผ
๋‹ค์‹œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:34
WPR: "There is some fear and suspicion about privacy and contact tracing.
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WPR: ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์นจํ•ดํ• ๊นŒ๋ด
๊ฑฑ์ •๊ณผ ์˜๊ตฌ์‹ฌ๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
11:38
How can we build trust in the process?"
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋ฅผ ์Œ“์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
11:41
JM: Yeah, that's a great question,
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JM: ๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:42
and I think there's fear about privacy
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ฐœ์ธ ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ์šฐ๋ คํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ์ ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
11:46
and part of it comes from the idea of what contact tracing is.
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ๋ช‡๋ช‡์€ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐœ๋…๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
11:52
And I think that's why we feel strongly,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด
๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ 
11:55
is if you lead with the idea that it's care
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11:58
and it's trying to get resources and information
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์ž์›๊ณผ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์–ป์–ด์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋„์™€์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
12:03
and help to people,
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ํ™•์—ฐํžˆ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:04
it seems very different
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12:06
than just, oh, who's sick, and who's a threat.
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•„ํ”„๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ์—ผ์ž๋„ค๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ตฌ๋ถ„ ์ง“๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
12:10
And so fundamentally --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ,
12:12
and that's why we're so pleased to be at this TED talk today --
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ด TED ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์œ ์ด์œ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ์š”.
12:16
is it's about communication, right?
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์ด๊ฑด ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ฌธ์ œ ์•„๋‹๊นŒ์š”?
12:18
It's not about surveillance,
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๊ฐ์‹œ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ์š”.
12:20
it's about communication and care and support.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต, ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€์›์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:23
That's one thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ณ ์š”.
12:24
And we'll be hearing from our colleagues
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋“ค์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ๋„ ์ˆ˜๋ ด ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:27
on the tech side.
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12:29
There's ways to add tech, even to care,
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๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ์—๋„ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์ ‘๋ชฉํ•  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
12:33
that it can be a resource for caring and communication.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ์™€ ์†Œํ†ต์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:38
But there are ways to protect people's privacy
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•  ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
12:41
and also to provide care,
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๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋“ค์€ ์กด์žฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:43
and public health has many laws attached to it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต๊ณต ๋ณด๊ฑด์—๋Š” ๊ทธ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฒ•๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:48
This is all done within the constructs of our state public health laws.
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์ฃผ๋ฆฝ ๋ณด๊ฑด๋ฒ•์˜ ๊ทœ์ œ ํ•˜์—์„œ ์ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:53
And so I think some of the communication around this is,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ด์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ˆ ์•ผ ํ•  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š”
12:57
how do we take care of each other,
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋กœ ๋Œ๋ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€,
12:59
how do we take care of the most vulnerable.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ทจ์•ฝ๊ณ„์ธต์„ ๋Œ๋ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:01
And if we frame contact tracing as care,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ์˜ ํ‹€๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
13:04
I think that starts a different kind of conversation.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:08
CA: Mm.
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CA: ์Œ.
13:10
So, Joia, can you just talk in a bit more detail
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๋‹ค์Œ์œผ๋กœ, ์กฐ์ด์•„์”จ, ์กฐ์ด์•„์”จ๊ป˜์„œ ๋งค์‚ฌ์ถ”์„ธ์ธ ์—
13:13
about what it is that you are advising Massachusetts to do
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฒ•์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ž๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๋ฐ,
๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
13:18
in terms of contact tracing.
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13:19
Give us a sense of the scale of it.
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๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
13:21
JM: Yeah, so the scale -- thank you.
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JM: ๋„ค, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:24
You know, we are able now to make about 10,000 calls a day
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๊ทœ๋ชจ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 10,000ํ†ต์˜ ํ†ตํ™”๋กœ
13:31
to contacts.
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์—ฐ๋ฝ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:32
So every new case that comes in,
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฐ์—ผ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๊ณ ,
13:35
the case is investigated by someone on the phone,
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ํ†ตํ™”๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์„ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ ,
13:38
and then those investigations
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๊ทธ ์กฐ์‚ฌ ๊ธฐ๋ก๋“ค์€
13:41
means writing down the names and the phone numbers of the persons
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๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„ํŒ ์„ ๋™์•ˆ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ๋ฉฐ์น  ์ „์— ์ ‘์ด‰์„ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜
13:44
you've been in contact with for the time you were sick
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13:47
and a couple days before.
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์ด๋ฆ„๊ณผ ์ „ํ™”๋ฒˆํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์ ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:49
And with those numbers then, the contact tracers --
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๊ทธ ๋ฒˆํ˜ธ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์ ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
13:52
And that's what we really redoubled the workforce and really expanded,
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์ด ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋‘๋ฐฐ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
13:55
more than doubled,
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๋‘ ๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅ์‹œ์ผฐ์ฃ .
13:57
to support the department of public health
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๊ณต๊ณต ๋ณด๊ฑด๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์  ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ง€์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์š”.
14:00
to do that contact tracing.
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14:02
So we have 1,700 people employed full time, with benefits,
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์ €ํฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—๋Š” 1700๋ช…์˜ ๋ณต์ง€ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์ •๊ทœ์ง ์ง์›๋“ค์ด
์ ‘์ด‰์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„œ "๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?"
14:09
to call those contacts and say, "Are you OK?
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"์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…”์•ผํ•ด์š”" ๋ผ๊ณ  ์•ˆ๋‚ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:13
This is the information you need,"
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14:15
and then, and I think this is the critical piece,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„์ฃผ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ณผ์ •์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:18
when someone doesn't have the information,
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ํŠนํžˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์—†์„ ๋•Œ์—๋Š”์š”.
14:21
then we have another cadre of people we call the resource care coordinators,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž„์›๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์› ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋ผ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:26
who help that person, that contact,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž„์›๋“ค์€ ์ ‘์ด‰์ž๋“ค์ด
14:29
to do the things they need to do to protect themselves.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•ด์•ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋„์™€์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:32
It might be food delivery,
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์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ ์ „๋‹ฌ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
14:34
it might be filing for unemployment benefits,
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์‹ค์—…์ž ์ž์›๊ธˆ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์„œ๋ฅ˜์ž‘์„ฑ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
14:37
it might be trying to get them medical care or a test.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜๋ฃŒ์  ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ๋‚˜ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:43
That piece is the care piece.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ์ผ์ด ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์— ํ•ด๋‹น๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:45
And that is what turns social distancing from very regressive --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์ผ์ด ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋‘๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์„ ์—ญํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
14:50
look at me in my beautiful house, social distancing --
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ €ํฌ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
14:53
to something that's progressive
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง„๋ณด์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ž์›์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
14:55
and paying attention to those who need the resources.
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ํ„ด ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:59
So the scale is massive,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:00
with 1,700 employees hired to do this,
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์ ‘์ด‰์ž ์ถ”์ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณ ์šฉ๋œ 1,700๋ช…์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ,
15:04
but they are connected
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ํ•œ, ์ง€์—ญ ์‚ฌํšŒ ํ‘ธ๋“œ๋ฑ…ํฌ์™€ ๊ตํšŒ, ์‹œ์„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
15:05
with local community food banks and churches and facilities
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15:09
and primary health care centers as well.
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์ฃผ์š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ์„ผํ„ฐ์—๋„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:14
CA: Thank you so much, Joia.
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CA: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์กฐ์ด์•„.
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์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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