What Does "Wealth" Mean to You? | Aisha Nyandoro | TED

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Growing up in Mississippi,
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my family never talked about money,
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but I could infer how much people had by pattern keeping at Christmas time.
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My uncle Chip was always good for money,
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an absolute delight.
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JCPenney's, here I come.
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(Laughter)
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Mama Adele would always give us apples, oranges,
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butterscotch candy, in a brown paper bag.
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It was a gift given with love and it meant a lot
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coming from the matriarch of our family.
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Now my parents,
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my parents would make sure my twin and I were fresh in the latest fashions.
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Girbaud jeans, Starter jackets.
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Looking good made us feel rich, even if we weren't.
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So it was interesting
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because I remember having a myriad of conversations
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about prison reform, the education system,
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voter rights,
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but a candid conversation about money,
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it never happened.
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When I went to graduate school, my world expanded.
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Hearing my friends talk about their overseas adventures
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made me envious.
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I didn't even have a passport at the time.
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When I got my first job post graduate school,
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I was making 70,000 dollars.
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I was rich.
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But that shopping spree at JCPenney's was no longer going to scratch that itch.
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I needed to do whatever I could to be legit wealthy.
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I think that’s why one of the many Oprah Winfrey episodes that I watched
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[in] the early 2000s stood out to me.
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On this particular episode, Suze Orman was the guest.
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And for those of you who don't know,
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Suze is an American author and financial advisor,
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and she has the most perfect white teeth I've ever seen.
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(Laughter)
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Well, Suze was talking about 401(k)s,
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and I got the basic gist of what she was saying.
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Save a little money now, have a lot of money in the future.
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Sounded great, amazing, sign me up.
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So I went to meet a wealth advisor, somebody I met off the internet.
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I just knew that this random person was going to unlock some magical room
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and give me all the tricks I needed to be wealthy.
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I mean big house, fancy cars, luxurious vacation.
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I was excited until I wasn't.
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The nondescript building in a strip mall
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did not boost my confidence
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that this was how the wealthy managed their affairs.
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(Laughter)
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I was placed in a small white waiting room
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and I stayed there for what felt like forever.
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Finally, a man came in who could not even bother
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to learn the correct pronunciation of my name
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and asked me what my goals were for the future.
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OK, I'm excited again.
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I know the answer to this.
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Number one, I would like to retire comfortably by the age of 60.
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Number two, I would like to be able to take care of my mom.
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His response,
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"I don't know why taking care of your mother is your responsibility."
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He then went on to speak in some financial jargon
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I could not understand.
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The entire interaction took me so aback
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that I vowed to share the bare minimum the rest of the meeting.
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I could not figure out what I was missing,
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but it made me question everything.
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Maybe I did not know what wealth was.
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Maybe wealth was not intended for people like me.
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Maybe I was reaching for too much.
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So I find it funny, or maybe serendipitous
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that I think about cash and wealth all the time now.
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For the last ten years,
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I've led an organization in Jackson, Mississippi,
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that takes a radically community-driven approach to supporting families,
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mainly Black women,
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that live in federally subsidized affordable housing.
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Our programs are strategic and holistic.
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A few years ago,
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we became concerned that we were not moving the needle on poverty.
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So we went to the women that we work with and we said, "What are we missing?"
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The answers were all different,
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but the underlying problem was the same.
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The problem was the lack of cash.
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No money for pizza on a Friday night was causing stress.
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Unexpected car repairs were leading to unemployment
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because people could not get to and from work.
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So we began to research how do you give money,
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not another program, to people experiencing poverty?
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In 2018, we launched the Magnolia Mother's Trust,
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this country's first modern guaranteed-income program,
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and the first in the world to center its efforts on Black women.
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(Cheers)
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Quickly, for the uninitiated,
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a guaranteed income is a specific amount of money
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given to a specific population over a set amount of time.
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It's typically funded by private philanthropy
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or in some instances, the public sector.
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It's not a new idea.
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Jenny Tillman, a mom and welfare activist,
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called for a guaranteed income way back in 1972,
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and even Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and President Nixon indicated
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that a guaranteed income could help solve for poverty.
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It's not a new idea,
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but like I said, we are pioneers and our efforts are working.
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We provide 1,000 dollars a month for 12 months to Black mothers.
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And our goal is simple:
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to provide these women with the breathing room they need
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by giving them the financial resources they need
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to dream a little bigger.
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We provide --
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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We provide 1,000 dollars a month for 12 months,
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and we have proven that 12,000 dollars
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is a life-altering amount of money.
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Yes, it allows you to take care of the practical needs,
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like getting that car repaired,
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but it also allows you to shift your reality.
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Literally, shift your reality from scarcity to abundance,
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from tunneling to imagination,
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from scraping by to genuine opportunity.
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There are over 100 guaranteed income programs
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currently being implemented in this country,
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and many were inspired by what we started
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in Jackson, Mississippi, of all places.
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Black women have ushered in a movement and it has been beautiful,
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but it is just the start.
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Over the last few years,
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as I have watched more and more moms move towards income stability,
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I have listened as they have began to dream
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about a life free of economic stress.
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I have watched as they began to dream about wealth.
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Now, I understand that the most basic definition of wealth
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is what you own, minus what you owe.
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And I also know we typically define it as having big cars,
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luxurious vacations,
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one-upping our neighbor on this never-ending ladder of economic success.
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But for many women, particularly women of color,
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who do not have access or the ability to earn a living wage
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because of pay inequity,
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that definition is meaningless or inadequate.
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Lord knows that we must solve for the racial wealth gap,
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and it is going to take radical imagination
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and a reinvention of big systems.
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But until then,
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people cannot be gaslit into believing
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that their definition of wealth is invalid or less important.
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(Applause)
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Bell Hooks once wrote,
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"Definitions are a vital starting point to the imagination.
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What one cannot imagine cannot come into being."
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One day I was having a conversation with Coco,
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a mom within the Magnolia Mother's Trust, and I asked her, "What is wealth to you?"
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Without skipping a beat, she said,
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"If anything were to happen to me,
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my family would have the money to cover my burial expenses."
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Asking more and more women the same question,
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I have come to learn that wealth is dignified funerals,
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the privilege of privacy,
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the ability to complete school, own a business,
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or the thrill of being the extravagant auntie.
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All of these are definitions of wealth to them.
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Wealth is about a sense of agency, a sense of freedom,
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the collective well-being of the whole.
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It is not an individual pathological pursuit.
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For too long, we have allowed financial institutions
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to define wealth and the process by which we build it.
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I have never had a mother say to me,
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wealth is having stocks and bonds,
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equity in her home, or even a retirement account.
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Instead, they dream about what a life of ease and care would look like.
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Another case in point.
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I was having a conversation with a mom I work with,
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and I asked if she had six months’ worth of savings
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to cover an emergency.
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She started laughing.
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She could not even see herself in the equation that I was offering.
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She said that "Before the Magnolia Mothers Trust,
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I didn’t even have a savings account, let alone one month’s worth of savings.”
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I said, "OK, let me ask the question differently.
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What is wealth to you?"
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She said, "Oh, that's easy.
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All of my bills paid every month
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with a little left over for anything extra."
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She knew exactly what she needed.
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Our narrow definition simply did not address her needs.
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Hearing these responses, time and time again,
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I began to realize that we have to redefine wealth,
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and we actually can redefine wealth.
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And a way we do that is by listening to others
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and then by being brave enough to listen to ourselves.
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So of course, y'all,
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I had to ask myself, what is wealth?
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And I will admit to each of you all because we're best friends now --
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(Laughter)
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That when I first asked myself this question, I started crying.
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I realized that for over 20 years,
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I had been holding on to a definition that was not written for me,
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nor did it mirror my desires.
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I never wanted that big house backed up against the lake.
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I simply wanted what it represented in my mind:
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My ability to gather my people, to nourish them, to spoil them,
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to make sure that we were protected and cared for
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before we go out into the world doing the hard work of caring for others.
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Please hear my words.
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I am not saying that women experiencing poverty simply need space to dream.
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If you all walk out of this theater with that,
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I am going to be very unhappy.
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(Laughter)
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What I am saying
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is that the space to dream mixed with cash
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can lead to transformation that can lead to true wealth.
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It is my belief that we, all of us in this room,
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are made less [wealthy]
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by virtue of tolerating a country where anyone has to prove their worth.
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We may have 500 different definitions of wealth,
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but we can all agree that we are all degraded by normalizing immoral inequity.
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After all these years, I have finally --
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(Applause)
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After all of these years,
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I have finally accomplished what I set out to achieve
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all those years ago with that random wealth advisor.
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I am emboldened and empowered to manage my wealth
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and no, I don't mean money.
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I mean, I am a loving daughter,
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I am a mom who takes their boys on vacation
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and you best believe I am an extravagant auntie.
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(Laughter)
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We have a poverty of imagination about what makes you wealthy.
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I mean the things that people say about you at your funeral.
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I mean legacy.
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But here's the thing.
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From where I sit, we can offer that kind of wealth to everyone.
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And yes, I am going to play on the word here,
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I can guarantee it,
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if we are simply willing to understand
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that a small financial investment can change someone's life,
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giving them the flexibility,
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breathing room and space
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to define and build wealth on their own terms.
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And that may be wealth defined by equity, love, honor and delight.
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Thank you.
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(Applause and cheers)
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