1.5 HOUR English Conversation Lesson

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Speak English With Vanessa


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Vanessa: Hi, I'm Vanessa from SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com.
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Vanessa: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ €๋Š” SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com์˜ Vanessa์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:03
Dan: And I'm Dan.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋Œ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:05
Vanessa: My husband, who is also going to be giving another perspective in today's conversation.
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Vanessa: ๋‚จํŽธ๋„ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:09
Today we're bringing you an amazing, long, English conversation, so prepare your ears,
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋†€๋ž๊ณ ๋„ ๊ธด ์˜์–ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ท€๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ 
00:16
prepare your mind.
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๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
00:17
We're going to be talking about 12 different topics, and hopefully providing some new expressions
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 12๊ฐ€์ง€์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ํฌ๋ง์ ์œผ๋กœ
00:23
and new ways to think about life.
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์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ‘œํ˜„๊ณผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:25
I don't know about that, but at least some English help for you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ์ ์–ด๋„ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:28
Dan: Yeah, it's going to get personal today, so get ready.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด ๋  ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
00:30
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
00:31
All right, are you ready to get started?
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์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
00:32
Dan: I'm ready.
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๋Œ„: ์ค€๋น„๋์–ด.
00:33
Vanessa: Let's go.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ฐ€์ž.
00:40
Our first topic is family, and my question is, who do you think that you're the most
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๊ณ  ์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‹ฎ์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
00:45
like?
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?
00:46
Dan: Who am I the most like, in appearance?
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๋Œ„: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์™ธ๋ชจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‹ฎ์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
00:48
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
00:50
Dan: Both appearance and character?
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๋Œ„: ์™ธ๋ชจ๋„ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ๋„?
00:52
Vanessa: Yeah, both.
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Vanessa: ์‘, ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค.
00:53
Dan: Okay, so appearance I look mostly like my mom, I think.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์™ธ๋ชจ๋Š” ์—„๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
00:58
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
00:59
Dan: I have more of her skin tone, I have her eyes.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ํ”ผ๋ถ€์ƒ‰์„ ๋” ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:02
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
01:03
Dan: And on her side of the family, most of the people are pretty skinny, and I'm a rather
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ฝค ๋ง๋ž๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์†Œ
01:07
skinny guy.
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๋ง๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:09
My dad's side is German, and they tend to be a little bit bigger.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋น  ์ชฝ์€ ๋…์ผ์ธ์ธ๋ฐ, ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ํฐ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
01:13
So yeah, I definitely got my mom's side.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์—„๋งˆ ํŽธ์ด์—ˆ์–ด.
01:15
But character wise, I think I'm a little more like my dad.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์•„๋น ๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋‹ฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
01:19
Would you agree?
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๋™์˜ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:20
Vanessa: Yeah, I'd say you have shades of your dad.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๊ทธ๋Š˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
01:23
Dan: You know me so well, so you can answer this, too.
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๋Œ„: ์ €๋ฅผ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ž˜ ์•„์‹œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•ด์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š” .
01:25
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
01:26
Yeah, I think you have shades of your dad.
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๋„ค, ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ๊ทธ๋Š˜์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
01:28
Yeah.
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์‘.
01:29
Dan: Shades, yeah.
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Dan: ์Œ์˜, ์˜ˆ.
01:30
I think I'm more silly than my dad, that's not very hard because my dad is pretty serious.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋น ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„๋น ๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ ต์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:34
Vanessa: Ah, he's got a silly side though.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๊ฑ”๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉด๋„ ์žˆ์–ด.
01:37
Dan: He does, yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:38
But for the most part, I think I'm more like my dad because he has a very calm demeanor,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ฐจ๋ถ„ํ•œ ํƒœ๋„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
01:42
he's very patient, and he doesn't get stressed about anything.
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์ฐธ์„์„ฑ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์—๋„ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ฎ์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
01:47
And actually, my dad gets so unstressed about everything, I can't even understand it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์…”์„œ ์ดํ•ด์กฐ์ฐจ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:53
I'm like, "How are you so calm right now?"
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๋‚˜๋Š” "์ง€๊ธˆ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์นจ์ฐฉํ•ด?"
01:56
And everybody I know thinks that I'm the most stress free person they know.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:01
Vanessa: But your dad is even more stress free.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆํฌ ์•„๋น ๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด.
02:03
Dan: Yeah, but we're similar, like growing up when my parents would be going somewhere,
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋น„์Šทํ•ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ์–ด๋””๋ก ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์‹ค ๋•Œ ์ž๋ผ์„œ
02:09
and needing to get out of the house, me and my dad would be the last one out of the house
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์ง‘์„ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‚˜์™€ ์•„๋น ๋Š” ๋งค๋ฒˆ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ง‘ ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด
02:13
every single time.
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.
02:15
Then we would be like, "What?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” "๋ญ?
02:16
We'll make it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋‚ผ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
02:17
We'll be okay.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
02:18
No problem."
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๋ฌธ์ œ ์—†์–ด."
02:19
Vanessa: And your mom, and brother, and sister were saying, "Come on, hurry."
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค ์—„๋งˆ์™€ ๋‚จ๋™์ƒ๊ณผ ๋ˆ„๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€ "์–ด์„œ, ์„œ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ."
02:21
Dan: And my mom is like, "Ah, let's go."
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” "์•„, ๊ฐ€์ž."
02:24
My mom is much more high stress, anxious kind of personality.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋งŽ๊ณ , ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ด์—์š”.
02:28
Vanessa: That's kind of a typical family situation, I think.
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Vanessa: ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
02:30
Dan: Yeah, how about you?
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋„Œ ์–ด๋•Œ?
02:32
Vanessa: I think I have both my parents in me as well.
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Vanessa: ์ œ ์•ˆ์—๋„ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
02:35
I think I look a lot like my mom.
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์—„๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
02:37
Dan: Yeah, she looks exactly like her mom, though, like to a T.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” T์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์—„๋งˆ์™€ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:40
Vanessa: Sometimes when I see pictures of myself, and then I look at a picture of her
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Vanessa: ๊ฐ€๋” ๋‚ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณธ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‚˜์ด์˜ ๊ทธ๋…€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด
02:46
at the same age, I think, "Whoa.
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"์šฐ์™€.
02:49
We look really similar."
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์ •๋ง ๋น„์Šทํ•ด."
02:50
And she looks a lot like her mom, so I can kind of imagine what I'll look like when I'm
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์—„๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ฎ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชจ์Šต์ผ์ง€ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:56
getting older.
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.
02:57
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
02:58
I mean, you have darker hair, and darker features.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋” ์–ด๋‘์šด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์นด๋ฝ๊ณผ ๋” ์–ด๋‘์šด ํŠน์ง•์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:00
You got that from your dad.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:01
Vanessa: Yeah, somewhat.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๋‹ค์†Œ.
03:02
But I think a lot of my features are similar to my mom.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋‚ด ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ์—„๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค .
03:04
But I think I also got my facial expressions from my mom.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—„๋งˆ์˜ ํ‘œ์ •๋„ ๋ฌผ๋ ค๋ฐ›์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
03:09
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
03:10
Vanessa: A lot of comment that, "Wow, Vanessa, you have a lot of expressions."
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Vanessa: "์™€์šฐ, Vanessa, ํ‘œ์ •์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ๋„ค."
03:14
Dan: Your mom is very expressive, just like you.
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งค์šฐ ํ‘œํ˜„๋ ฅ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
03:15
Vanessa: And I think it's true that I use a lot of expressions, but it's just natural
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
03:19
for me.
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
I do this in daily life as I'm talking about things.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ƒ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ €๊ฒƒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ•œ๋‹ค .
03:23
And I think that I get that from my mom, sometimes I see some of her expressions and I realize,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—„๋งˆ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ์–ป์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ํ‘œ์ •์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ
03:28
"Oh, I do that too."
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"์•„, ๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒํ•œ๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๊นจ๋‹ซ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:29
Dan: Yeah, I remember when we lived in South Korea, every single Korean person was commenting
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ์ด
03:35
on Vanessa's expressions.
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Vanessa์˜ ํ‘œ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:36
They're like, "Your face, it's so exciting.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ "๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ผ๊ตด, ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•ด์š”.
03:39
How are you making so many faces?"
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"
03:43
Everybody was surprised.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:44
Vanessa: I don't know.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
03:45
Dan: I guess in Korea they don't make as many faces.
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๋Œ„: ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
03:47
Vanessa: I don't know, maybe it's just not.
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Vanessa: ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:49
Maybe it's just an unusual trait.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ํŠน์ดํ•œ ํŠน์„ฑ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:50
I'm grateful for that, especially as a teacher, I can hopefully help to explain some different
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ํŠนํžˆ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ œ ์–ผ๊ตด๋กœ๋„ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐœ๋…์„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:56
concepts with my face as well.
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03:58
But I feel like I also have parts of my dad.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋„ ์•„๋น ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
04:01
My dad is a pretty rational guy.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋น ๋Š” ๊ฝค ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์•ผ.
04:04
Dan: You're rational like your dad.
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:06
Vanessa: Yeah, but I think I also have his sense of humor, sometimes a little strange
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ์˜ ์œ ๋จธ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์ด์ƒํ•œ
04:12
sense of humor, but we laugh at the same things, we enjoy playing games, and being competitive,
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์œ ๋จธ ๊ฐ๊ฐ๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์›ƒ๊ณ , ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ , ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
04:18
so I think that that side of me, maybe some of the character side of me, is similar to
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์ฆ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ ์ธก๋ฉด ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:24
him.
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04:25
But I feel like I also have parts of my grandma.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋„ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
04:27
My grandma is a go, go, go, go person.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€, ๊ฐ€, ๊ฐ€, ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
04:30
Dan: Oh, that's true.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ตฐ์š”.
04:31
Yeah.
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์‘.
04:32
Vanessa: She never stops, and I think my biggest flaw is that I have difficulty slowing down
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ฒฐ์ ์€ ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋Šฆ์ถ”๊ณ  ๊ธด์žฅ์„ ํ‘ธ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:39
and relaxing, I just keep going and I think that-
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์ €๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:42
Dan: That's why she's with me.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
Vanessa: ... I need help relaxing.
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Vanessa: ... ๊ธด์žฅ์„ ํ‘ธ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:45
Dan: I help her relax.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ธด์žฅ์„ ํ’€๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ค€๋‹ค.
04:46
Vanessa: Yeah, so I think that my grandma's like this too, that she's always going, and
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ ๋„ ์ด๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฐ€๊ณ ,
04:51
always doing things, and it's healthy to slow down every now and then.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋Šฆ์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
04:55
And so, I need to do that, she probably needs to do that too sometimes.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€ ๋„ ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:59
But I don't know if I learned that from her, but maybe that's just part of my-
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ฐฐ์› ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด-
05:02
Dan: I think it's your personality.
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
05:04
Vanessa: ... DNA, my character.
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Vanessa: ... DNA, ๋‚ด ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ.
05:05
Dan: Yeah, I can remember even when I first met Vanessa, she was more go, go, go than
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ Vanessa๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด , ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ž˜ํ–ˆ์–ด
05:09
she is now.
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05:10
Vanessa: Oh, you think so?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด?
05:11
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
05:12
More like so this thing, then the next, and the enthusiasm was always, she was like bouncing
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์ด ์ผ, ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ผ์— ๋” ๊ฐ€๊น๊ณ  ์—ด์ •์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํŠ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:16
everywhere.
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05:17
Vanessa: I always have a lot of enthusiasm, that's true.
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Vanessa: ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งŽ์€ ์—ด์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:18
Dan: Yes, it was off the charts.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ์ฐจํŠธ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:20
Vanessa: Yeah, so I want to know for you, who are you most like in your family?
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:24
Is it maybe your physical traits or for your character?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‹ ์ฒด์  ํŠน์„ฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ๊นŒ์š” ?
05:27
All right, let's go on to our second question.
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์ž, ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:30
The next topic is childhood.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:31
I want to know when do you think childhood ends, and when do you become an adult?
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์–ธ์ œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์ด ๋๋‚˜๊ณ  ์–ธ์ œ ์„ฑ์ธ์ด ๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:37
Dan: When does childhood end?
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๋Œ„: ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์€ ์–ธ์ œ ๋๋‚˜๋‚˜์š”?
05:38
Vanessa: This is a deep question.
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Vanessa: ์‹ฌ์˜คํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:39
Dan: Well, I don't think it can be a specific age, I think it's different for everyone.
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๋‚˜์ด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
05:44
I think it's at any point you can leave this house of your parents and live on your own,
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์–ด๋Š ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ๋“  ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์˜ ์ง‘์„ ๋– ๋‚˜ ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ด๋ฉฐ
05:50
take care of yourself, and you're not dependent on somebody else.
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์ž์‹ ์„ ๋Œ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜์กดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
05:54
Like if you're living with your friends and bumming off them, you're probably not an adult
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋™๊ฑฐํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„์ง ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:59
yet.
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06:00
So if I had to pick an age, I'd probably say 16.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๊ผฝ์œผ๋ผ๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ 16์„ธ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
06:03
Vanessa: Oh.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค.
06:04
Dan: Yeah, I'm saying kind of young.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ์ข€ ์ Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:06
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
06:07
Dan: In an ideal world, I think a 16 year old should be ready.
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๋Œ„: ์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ์„ธ์ƒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด 16 ์‚ด์ด๋ฉด ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
06:10
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
06:11
Okay.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
06:12
I get it.
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:13
At 16 were you ready?
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16์‚ด์— ์ค€๋น„๋์–ด?
06:14
Dan: No, of course not.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜์ง€.
06:15
Vanessa: Ideally.
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Vanessa: ์ด์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ์š”.
06:16
Dan: Ideally, yeah.
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Dan: ์ด์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:17
I don't think our society prepares us to be ready at 16.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 16์‚ด์— ์ค€๋น„๋˜๋„๋ก ์ค€๋น„์‹œํ‚ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š”
06:22
It prepares you to be ready at 18.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด 18์‚ด์— ์ค€๋น„๋˜๋„๋ก ์ค€๋น„์‹œํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:25
Vanessa: Or later.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‚˜์ค‘์—์š”.
06:26
Dan: Right, or later.
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๋Œ„: ๋งž์•„, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‚˜์ค‘์—.
06:28
But you know, in an ideal world I think you could be ready at 16, but it's a kind of complicated
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ๋Š” 16์„ธ์— ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ
06:32
world now, so maybe 18 is an acceptable age.
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์„ธ์ƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 18์„ธ๊ฐ€ ํ—ˆ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ๋‚˜์ด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:36
Vanessa: I feel like, for me, I have less ideas about childhood ending and adulthood
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Vanessa: ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์˜ ๋๊ณผ ์„ฑ์ธ๊ธฐ์˜
06:41
starting that are physical.
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์‹œ์ž‘์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‹ ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋œํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„
06:42
I feel like it has more to do with making your own decisions.
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๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
06:46
There might be a lot of reasons why you have to live at home, or you have to be dependent
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์ง‘์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„์•ผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
06:51
on someone else, but if you are making your own decisions you are not a child, you're
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜์กดํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋งŽ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
06:59
an adult.
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์„ฑ์ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
And I'm sure as our children get older and become teenagers, that's going to be a little
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ญ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ
07:04
bit harder for us to make that line for someone else, but I know for myself-
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ ๋ผ์ธ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค-
07:08
Dan: Well, this is- Vanessa: ... making more decisions.
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Dan: ์Œ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€- Vanessa: ... ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:11
Dan: ... assuming you are capable as a person to live on your own, of course.
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๋Œ„: ... ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ • ํ•˜์—์š” .
07:15
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
07:16
Yeah, I think you can still be an adult just making your own decisions, but we still need
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๋„ค, ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
07:20
help from other people as adults, so there's a... it's a gray area.
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์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋˜์–ด์„œ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํšŒ์ƒ‰ ์˜์—ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:23
Dan: Sure.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
07:24
Yeah.
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์‘.
07:25
I would- Vanessa: Yeah, it's not so clear.
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๋‚˜๋Š”- Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:26
Dan: ... also add, I don't know, for myself personally, having children really makes you
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Dan: ... ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ •๋ง๋กœ
07:31
an adult.
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์–ด๋ฅธ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:32
It doesn't have to be true for everyone, but I think it's easier for some people to just
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ผ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ์ด๊ธฐ์ ์ด๊ณ 
07:37
kind of be really selfish, and do their own thing, and kind of live like a kid, especially
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์ž๊ธฐ ํ•  ์ผ๋งŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋ฆฐ์•„์ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:42
nowadays because we have so much entertainment, you could just watch TV every day.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งค์ผ TV๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:48
A lot of guys I know play video games a lot, and I'm not knocking on video games but playing
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ๋…ธํฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
07:55
video games every day is a good way to remain a child, at heart anyways.
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๋งค์ผ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์–ด๋ฆฐ์•„์ด๋กœ ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
07:59
Vanessa: Sure.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
08:00
Dan: This is my opinion, it's a little judgemental, but-
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Dan: ์ด๊ฑด ๋‚ด ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด์•ผ, ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํŒ๋‹จ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ-
08:01
Vanessa: Yeah, I think if you are a good person, and you have a child, then you feel forced
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ณ , ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์–ต์ง€๋กœ
08:07
to be become an adult.
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์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:08
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
08:09
Vanessa: There's still bad people who have kids, who remain children themselves-
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Vanessa: ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:12
Dan: That's true.
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.
08:13
Vanessa: ... and then they're bad parents.
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜์œ ๋ถ€๋ชจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:14
But I think if you're generally a good person, when you have kids, it's kind of a shock.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
Dan: Yeah, well- Vanessa: Like, "Whoa, this child is so dependent
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ์Œ- Vanessa: "์™€์šฐ, ์ด ์•„์ด๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜์กด์ ์ด์•ผ
08:21
on me.
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.
08:22
I need to be responsible.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฑ…์ž„์„ ์ ธ์•ผ ํ•ด.
08:23
I have to organize myself somehow."
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ๋“  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ฆฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด."
08:25
You have to change.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:26
Dan: ... I think being an adult, part of it is having a burden of responsibility of some
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๋Œ„: ...์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด
08:31
kind, whether it's a job, or your house payments, or whatever it is.
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์ง์—…์ด๋“  ์ง‘์„ธ๋“  ๋ญ๋“ ์ง€ ์ฑ…์ž„์„ ์ ธ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ถ€๋‹ด์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:36
Some people add those burdens of responsibility anyways without children, but I don't know,
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์ž๋…€ ์—†์ด ์ฑ…์ž„์˜ ๋ถ€๋‹ด์„ ๋”ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:42
for me, it's just different.
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08:44
Like, "This is the person I'm taking care of in my life."
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"์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์•ผ ."
08:48
People now- Vanessa: Yeah.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
08:49
Dan: ... because we've got two.
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Dan: ... ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:50
Vanessa: Well, two coming up soon.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๊ณง 2๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:52
So I have a question for you, when do you think childhood ends?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์ด ์–ธ์ œ ๋๋‚  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:56
When does adulthood start?
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์„ฑ์ธ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ธ์ œ ์‹œ์ž‘๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:58
It's going to be different for every culture, too because this is a pretty cultural specific
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฌธํ™”์ ์œผ๋กœ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฌธํ™”๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:03
question.
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09:04
Maybe in the U.S.- Dan: Yeah, maybe you have a-
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ- Dan: ์˜ˆ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€-
09:05
Vanessa: ... it's different than your country.
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:06
Dan: ... maybe you have a rite of passage in your country.
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๋Œ„: ... ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹  ๋‚˜๋ผ์—๋Š” ํ†ต๊ณผ ์˜๋ก€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:09
Vanessa: Oh, can you explain what a rite of passage is?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ํ†ต๊ณผ ์˜๋ก€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
09:10
Because that's kind of a nuanced thing.
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๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:12
Dan: Yeah, a rite of passage is something that every boy or every girl does to become
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ํ†ต๊ณผ์˜๋ก€๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž๋“  ์—ฌ์ž๋“ 
09:18
an adult.
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์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:19
Vanessa: Oh, like some ceremony, or activity.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์˜์‹์ด๋‚˜ ํ™œ๋™ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์š”.
09:21
Dan: Yeah, like a ceremony.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ์˜์‹์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
09:23
Yeah, I mean, we don't really have this in the U.S., some people say college is a rite
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์˜ˆ, ์ œ ๋ง์€, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์ด
09:27
of passage, but not...
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ํ†ต๊ณผ ์˜๋ก€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:28
I mean, more and more, almost everybody goes to college now.
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์ œ ๋ง์€, ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:32
Vanessa: A lot of people do, but- Dan: Yeah, so it kind of is, but it's a really
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Vanessa: ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ- Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
09:35
bad one because usually people just go, and they have parties, and they live really irresponsibly.
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๋ณดํ†ต ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€์„œ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๋ฌด์ฑ…์ž„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:40
Vanessa: It's not a way to become a responsible adult.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฑ…์ž„๊ฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
09:42
Dan: Yeah, and then you do more school.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:44
Vanessa: Ah, yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•„, ๋„ค.
09:45
Dan: It's not really becoming a man.
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๋Œ„: ์ •๋ง ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:47
Vanessa: Changing your life completely.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”.
09:49
Yeah.
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์‘.
09:50
So I'm curious, in your country is there something that signifies, "Now you are an adult.", this
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—๋Š” '์ด์ œ ์„ฑ์ธ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:55
kind of rite of passage ceremony, or festivity, or party that you have.
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10:01
In the U.S. we don't really have that, but I think it's kind of a cool idea that you're
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:04
celebrating- Dan: I wish we did.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋žฌ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ.
10:06
Vanessa: ... this big change, going from childhood to adulthood, and it is a gray area, at least
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Vanessa: ... ์œ ๋…„๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์„ฑ์ธ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ด ํฐ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋Š” ๋ชจํ˜ธํ•œ ์˜์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์–ด๋„
10:11
in the U.S. it's a really gray area, so it's nice to celebrate that as parents, that your
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋ชจํ˜ธํ•œ ์˜์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋กœ์„œ
10:16
kids are adults, hopefully.
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์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ์ธ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:19
And that as a child, "Oh, great, now I'm an adult.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ "์˜ค, ์ข‹์•„, ์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด์•ผ.
10:22
Society sees me as an adult."
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์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์–ด๋ฅธ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณธ๋‹ค."
10:24
So I think it's kind of a cool idea, but maybe it's something we can do with our future kids.
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๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:28
All right, let's go onto the next topic.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:31
The next topic is jobs.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์ง์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:33
I want to know what was your worst job ever.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ง์—…์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:37
Dan: Worst job ever?
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๋Œ„: ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ง์—…?
10:39
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
10:40
Dan: Well, I have two competing jobs.
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Dan: ์Œ, ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ•˜๋Š” ์ง์—…์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐœ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:42
Vanessa: Hopefully it's not your current job, making English lessons.
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Vanessa: ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ฑด๋Œ€ ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์ง์—…์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
10:44
Dan: It's video editing and doing these videos.
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๋Œ„: ์˜์ƒ ํŽธ์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์˜์ƒ ์ฐ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋‹ค.
10:47
Vanessa: Oh, no.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ์•ˆ๋ผ.
10:48
Dan: I can't stand working with my wife.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋‚ด์™€ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐธ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:51
Just kidding.
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๋†๋‹ด์ด์•ผ.
10:52
It's the best.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ์ผ์ด์•ผ.
10:54
Yeah.
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์‘.
10:55
So yeah, really my worst job, if I had to pick just one, it would be being a dishwasher.
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๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ง์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜๋งŒ ์„ ํƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‹๊ธฐ ์„ธ์ฒ™๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:00
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
11:01
Dan: Now notice, there's no differentiation between the machine, a dishwasher, and the
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Dan: ์ด์ œ ์ฃผ์˜ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์‹๊ธฐ ์„ธ์ฒ™๊ธฐ์ธ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„์™€
11:06
person who is a dishwasher, it's the same word.
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์‹๊ธฐ์„ธ์ฒ™๊ธฐ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์‚ฌ์ด์—๋Š” ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:08
Vanessa: So you were like the machine, you were washing dishes.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:11
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
11:12
I mean, you did have a machine, so you'd have something on the side you'd slide the dishes
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์˜†์— ์ ‘์‹œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ€์–ด ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
11:16
in and all that, but it's just, I was also like, I think I was 16 at the time, an adult
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ, ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์— 16์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๊ณ , ์„ฑ์ธ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
11:23
and I had no friends in the restaurant.
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, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹๋‹น์— ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค.
11:30
They were all older and they were all really tough.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์•˜๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜์€
11:33
I don't know, in America, when you... the kitchens have a reputation for having really
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”... ์ฃผ๋ฐฉ์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง
11:39
kind of tough kitchen cooks, and they all... they swear a lot, and they make foul jokes-
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๊ฑฐ์นœ ์ฃผ๋ฐฉ ์š”๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ํ‰ํŒ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘... ์š•์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋†๋‹ด์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.-
11:44
Vanessa: They've had a lot of life experiences.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ธ์ƒ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ๋งŽ์•˜๋‹ค.
11:45
Dan: ... and I was just like a little Christian 16 year old kid, washing dishes in the corner,
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Dan: ...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ตฌ์„์—์„œ ์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ 
11:51
trying to look like relatively normal.
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๋น„๊ต์  ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•ด ๋ณด์ด๋ ค๊ณ  ์• ์“ฐ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๊ธฐ๋…๊ต์ธ 16์„ธ ๊ผฌ๋งˆ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:55
But I didn't talk to anybody- Vanessa: And you were homeschooled.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚œ ์•„๋ฌดํ•œํ…Œ๋„ ๋ง ์•ˆํ–ˆ์–ด- Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„Œ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด.
11:58
Yeah, no experiences.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:59
Dan: Yeah, well at that time I was in high school.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ ๋•Œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™์ƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š” .
12:00
Vanessa: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
12:01
Dan: But it was a small, private school.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ž‘์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์˜€์–ด์š”.
12:04
Anyway- Vanessa: You were very different from the
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ - Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ฌ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:06
other people.
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.
12:07
Dan: ... not only was that really awkward, it was also bad because washing dishes just
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๋Œ„: ...๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•  ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:11
kind of stinks.
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12:12
You just get all the dishes, and some of the guys used to make fun that I wasn't going
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์š”๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋†€๋ฆฌ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:17
fast enough.
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.
12:18
One guy said, "Dan, you have two speeds, slow and stop."
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ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๋Œ„, โ€‹โ€‹๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์†๋„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์„ธ์š”."
12:22
Vanessa: You're like a turtle?
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Vanessa: ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด ๊ฐ™๋‚˜์š”?
12:25
Dan: Yeah, I'm like a turtle.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
12:26
Vanessa: Well, sometimes I still say that.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ์•„์ง๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์š”.
12:28
Dan: I wasn't fast enough, and another time I reached into the mucky, dirty water and
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋น ๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ  ๋˜ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€ ๋”๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ฌผ์—
12:32
I cut my finger on a broken glass and I was bleeding in the water.
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์†์„ ๋ป—์–ด ๊นจ์ง„ ์œ ๋ฆฌ์— ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์„ ๋ฒ ์ด๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—์„œ ํ”ผ๋ฅผ ํ˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:36
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค. ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์„
12:37
Things you don't want to know when you visit a restaurant.
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๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ๋•Œ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค .
12:39
Dan: And I was paid under the table.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ํƒ์ž ๋ฐ‘์—์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค.
12:41
Vanessa: Oh, really?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•„, ์ •๋ง์š”?
12:42
Dan: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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๋Œ„: ์Œ-ํ (๊ธ์ •).
12:43
Vanessa: Why'd they have to pay you under the table?
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Vanessa: ์™œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ” ๋ฐ‘์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
12:44
Dan: I don't know, because it's an Italian restaurant-
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Dan: ๋ชฐ๋ผ, ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•ˆ ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์ด๋ผ์„œ-
12:47
Vanessa: Because you were too young?
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Vanessa: ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์–ด๋ ค์„œ?
12:48
Dan: ... in rural Pennsylvania.
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Dan: ... ํŽœ์‹ค๋ฒ ๋‹ˆ์•„ ์‹œ๊ณจ์—์„œ์š”.
12:49
Vanessa: They didn't want to pay taxes on their employees or something?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง์›์—๊ฒŒ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์„ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‚˜์š” ?
12:50
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
12:51
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
12:52
Dan: Plus who wants to pay taxes on a dishwasher?
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Dan: ๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์‹๊ธฐ์„ธ์ฒ™๊ธฐ์— ์„ธ๊ธˆ์„ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
12:53
Vanessa: I wonder if it was because you were 16, like was there an age limit?
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Vanessa: 16์‚ด์ด๋ผ์„œ ๋‚˜์ด ์ œํ•œ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•˜๋„ค์š”.
12:57
Dan: I might have even been 15 at the time.
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๋Œ„: ๋‹น์‹œ์— 15์‚ด์ด์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
12:59
Vanessa: Okay, maybe you were under the legal age that they could hire someone-
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฒ•์  ์—ฐ๋ น ๋ฏธ๋งŒ์ด์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:01
Dan: Could be.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:02
Vanessa: ... so they just paid you under the table.
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
13:04
Dan: Yeah, so that was pretty bad.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฝค ๋‚˜๋นด์–ด.
13:05
Vanessa: That sounds pretty bad.
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Vanessa: ๊ฝค ๋‚˜์˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋„ค์š”.
13:06
Dan: Yeah, it was an awkward job.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:07
Vanessa: Especially as a first job, it just seems uncomfortable.
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Vanessa: ํŠนํžˆ ์ฒซ ์ง์žฅ์œผ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๋ถˆํŽธํ•ด ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:10
Dan: That was my second job.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ง์—…์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:12
Yeah.
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์‘.
13:13
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
13:14
Well- Dan: How about you?
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์Œ- ๋Œ„: ๋„ˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋•Œ?
13:15
Vanessa: ... I feel like- Dan: Could it beat that?
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Vanessa: ... ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€- Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ด๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?
13:17
Vanessa: Well, I feel like my worst job wasn't bad because of the social situation like yours,
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋‚ด ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ง์—…์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ƒํ™ฉ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
13:24
it was bad because it was so boring.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ง€๋ฃจํ•ด์„œ ๋‚˜๋นด๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
13:28
I worked for a summer at this office, I was like a temporary employee just for the summer,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์—๋งŒ ์ž„์‹œ ์ง์›์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
13:35
working kind of like a call center job.
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์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ฝœ์„ผํ„ฐ ์ž‘์—…์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:38
But every day they gave us these scripts and we had to call companies who maybe this company
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์ผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€
13:45
bought a printer within the last couple months.
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์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ์•ˆ์— ํ”„๋ฆฐํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ–ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:48
Dan: I'm bored just listening about it.
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๋Œ„: ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•ด๋„ ์‹ฌ์‹ฌํ•ด.
13:49
Vanessa: Yeah, and I called the company and said company and said, "Oh, I saw that you
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์–ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
13:53
recently bought the HP Inkjet printer, and we have a upcoming training session on this
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13:58
day.
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13:59
Would you like to attend the training session about this printer?"
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์ธ์‡„๊ธฐ?"
14:01
Dan: She does have a really good call voice, though.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ํ†ตํ™” ์Œ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
14:03
Vanessa: And I called so many companies again and again, talking with secretaries, talking
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์–ด ๋น„์„œ๋“ค๊ณผ
14:08
with other people, just saying, "Do you want to go to this seminar about..." some electronic
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ „์ž ์žฅ์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ...์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด ์„ธ๋ฏธ๋‚˜์— ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
14:13
device that they had recently bought.
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14:15
Dan: If you called me, I'd be like, "Yeah, I do.
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉด "์˜ˆ, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:18
Can I buy more?"
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๋” ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?"
14:19
Vanessa: Well, people were generally nice to me, it was just... it wasn't a subject
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Vanessa: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์นœ์ ˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์ง€...
14:23
that I was interested in, it wasn't something I was trained to do, so I didn't feel like
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ํ›ˆ๋ จ๋ฐ›์€ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ œ ์ผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:28
it was my specialty, it was just a temporary job to make money.
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ํŠน๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋น„์ •๊ทœ์ง์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
14:31
Dan: And you were sitting in an office all day, right?
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  ?
14:33
Vanessa: Yeah, it was my first office job.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ œ ์ฒซ ์ง์žฅ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:35
Dan: Vanessa doesn't like to sit very long.
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Dan: Vanessa๋Š” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:36
Vanessa: No, I have to go, go, go, like we talked about.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ฐ€์•ผํ•ด, ๊ฐ€์•ผํ•ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
14:39
So sitting in that office desk, it was just not my thing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค ์ฑ…์ƒ์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:43
But the office, on the other hand, did really try to make it interesting for the employees,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์€ ์ง์›๋“ค์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋Š๋ผ๋„๋ก ์ •๋ง ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜
14:48
because they knew most of the people I worked with were in a similar position as me, where
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์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ๊ณ 
14:53
it wasn't their life-long dream to work in that job.
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์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ‰์ƒ์˜ ๊ฟˆ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ง์—…์—์„œ.
14:57
So about once a week, we had these game show competitions-
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„ ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์‡ผ ๋Œ€ํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:02
Dan: That sounds fun.
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Dan: ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋„ค์š”.
15:03
Vanessa: ... where at lunch, during the lunch break, everyone would go to the lunchroom,
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Vanessa: ... ์ ์‹ฌ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์—, ์ ์‹ฌ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์‹๋‹น์— ๊ฐ€๊ณ ,
15:07
if you wanted to of course, and they had these competitions kind of like Wheel of Fortune,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, Wheel of Fortune ๋˜๋Š” Jeopardy์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํšŒ๋ฅผ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:11
or Jeopardy, and the company just had them for the employees.
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์ง์›๋“ค.
15:16
Sometimes we had dress up days where we dressed up like cowboys, or dressed up like... they
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์นด์šฐ๋ณด์ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ฐจ๋ ค์ž…๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งˆ์น˜... ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
15:21
were trying to make it interesting.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ฐจ๋ ค์ž…๋Š” ๋‚ ์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:22
Dan: Come on, this is better than being a dishwasher.
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๋Œ„: ์–ด์„œ, ์‹๊ธฐ ์„ธ์ฒ™๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋‚ซ๋‹ค .
15:25
Vanessa: It's probably better than being a dishwasher, but I just felt like they were
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Vanessa: ์‹๊ธฐ ์„ธ์ฒ™๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‚˜์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ
15:28
trying so hard to keep employees- Dan: To make it interesting.
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์ง์›์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ ์š”.
15:31
Vanessa: ... to make it interesting- Dan: All right.
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Vanessa: ... ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด- Dan: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:32
Vanessa: ... because they knew this is not an interesting job.
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Vanessa: ...๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
15:36
Dan: Yeah, can I say my second worst job?
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ง์—…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
15:38
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
15:39
Sure.
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ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๋Š”.
15:40
Dan: Can you guess what it is?
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ”์ง€ ์ถ”์ธกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
15:42
Vanessa: I know you worked at a lot of coffee shops, but those weren't that bad.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ปคํ”ผ์ˆ์—์„œ ์ผํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:45
Dan: Working at a coffee shop is good.
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๋Œ„: ์ปคํ”ผ์ˆ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹๋‹ค.
15:47
It's fun.
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋‹ค.
15:48
Vanessa: Okay, well what was it?
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋ญ์˜€์ฃ ?
15:49
Dan: It's the sharpshooter.
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Dan: ๋ช…์‚ฌ์ˆ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:50
Vanessa: Oh, can you explain about that job?
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๊ทธ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
15:52
Dan: Yeah, so I don't know if you've ever seen this in your country, but have you ever
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
15:57
been to a place where somebody takes your picture, and then later they try to sell you
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ
16:02
that picture?
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ํŒ”๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
16:03
I was that guy.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค.
16:05
So we took the same pictures, it was going onto a boat on one of the rivers in Pittsburgh.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ”ผ์ธ ๋ฒ„๊ทธ์˜ ๊ฐ• ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:11
Vanessa: So it was kind of like a cruise boat, but a river cruise.
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Vanessa: ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์œ ๋žŒ์„  ๊ฐ™์•˜ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ• ์œ ๋žŒ์„ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:14
Dan: Yeah, kind of.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ์ข€.
16:15
It was very kitschy though, like not high class at all.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ณ ๊ธ‰์Šค๋Ÿฝ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งค์šฐ ํ‚ค์น˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
16:19
So people, before they got on the boat, we forced them to stop and go through the line,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฐ์— ์˜ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ•์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ณ  ์ค„์„ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•œ
16:25
and we'd take their picture.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:27
And it was required, but people were like, "I don't want to get my picture taken."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์š”๊ตฌ๋˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ "๋‚ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
16:31
Vanessa: And everyone had their own cameras and phones.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ ์™€ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:32
Dan: And this is...
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€...
16:33
Yeah.
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๋„ค.
16:34
Mind you, this is in like 2010, where people already have phones on their cameras and stuff.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ 2010๋…„์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ์— ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:39
I mean, that's at least getting more popular.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋” ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:40
Vanessa: Yeah, they didn't need your picture.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:42
Dan: No.
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Dan: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
16:43
So I had to take everybody's picture, and then when they got off the boat, I stood at
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฐ์—์„œ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋ฉด
16:48
the side and said, "Hey, come over here, buy this picture."
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์˜†์— ์„œ์„œ "์ด๋ด, ์ด๋ฆฌ ์™€์„œ ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์‚ฌ."
16:51
And they were like $20 for one picture.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•œ ์žฅ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„์— 20๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ •๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:54
Vanessa: Crazy.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด.
16:55
Dan: A terrible rip-off, even I knew it was a terrible rip-off, just not a worthwhile
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Dan: ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์˜€์ฃ .
17:00
business, at least in 2010 when I was doing that job.
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์ ์–ด๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ 2010๋…„์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:04
Vanessa: Yeah, maybe 10 years before that it would have been cool.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ 10๋…„ ์ „์—๋Š” ๋ฉ‹์กŒ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:06
Dan: Yeah, it was a viable business like 30 years ago.
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Dan: ๋„ค, 30๋…„ ์ „์—๋Š” ์‹คํ–‰ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:10
Vanessa: But not now.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ.
17:11
Dan: Yeah, but not any more.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ์ด์ƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ.
17:13
That was really bad, and one time somebody stole one of my pictures and I actually got
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋‚˜์œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ์‚ฌ์ง„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ํ›”์ณ ๊ฐ”๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
17:17
fired from that job.
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๊ทธ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ํ•ด๊ณ ๋‹นํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:18
Vanessa: Because they stole a picture.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ํ›”์ณค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:19
Dan: Because they stole a picture and I couldn't...
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ํ›”์ณ๊ฐ”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—... ์ œ
17:21
I didn't catch them on time, and I was like, "Good riddance."
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์žก์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ณ , "์ž˜ ์žค์–ด."
17:24
Vanessa: Yeah, "Goodbye to this job.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, "์ด ์ผ์€ ์•ˆ๋…•.
17:26
Goodbye forever."
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์˜์›ํžˆ ์•ˆ๋…•."
17:27
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ์„ค๊ฒ†์ด
17:28
The only reason this was better than the other job, than dish washing, is because I worked
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๋ณด๋‹ค ์ด ์ผ์ด ๋‚˜์•˜๋˜ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
17:31
with some people who were funny and we got along pretty well.
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์žฌ๋ฐŒ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ์ž˜ ์ง€๋ƒˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:35
Vanessa: And you were outside, you were by the river.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ•๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:37
Dan: It was okay.
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๋Œ„: ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•˜์–ด์š”.
17:38
Vanessa: Except you did have to drive an hour to get there, that's crazy.
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Vanessa: ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€๋ ค๋ฉด ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์šด์ „ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ๋งŒ ๋นผ๋ฉด ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ๋ผ์š”.
17:41
Dan: I did drive an hour to work.
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๋Œ„: ์ง์žฅ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์šด์ „ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
17:42
Vanessa: You should never drive an hour to get to a part-time job.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋ฅด๋ฐ”์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์šด์ „ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:45
Dan: But that was my fault, I wanted to work in Pittsburgh, and I still lived... did I
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์ž˜๋ชป์ด์•ผ, ํ”ผ์ธ ๋ฒ„๊ทธ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์‚ด์•˜์–ด...
17:48
live with my parents?
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ์‚ด์•˜๋‹ˆ?
17:50
Vanessa: Yeah, I think so.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
17:51
Dan: I think I did.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
17:52
I wasn't an adult yet.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ง ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
17:53
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
17:54
Oh.
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์˜ค.
17:55
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
17:56
Well, I'm curious for you, what is the worst job that you've ever had?
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ง์—…์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
17:59
Let us know.
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์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
18:00
And let's go to the next topic.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:02
The next topic is travel.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€
18:05
I want to know what are three locations that you would like to visit or revisit in the
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์„ธ ๊ณณ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:10
U.S.? Dan: In the U.S.?
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๋Œ„: ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ?
18:11
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
18:12
Dan: Why just the U.S.? Vanessa: Well, the world's a big place, so
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Dan: ์™œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๋งŒ? Vanessa: ์Œ, ์„ธ์ƒ์€ ๋„“์–ด์„œ
18:15
I had to narrow down the question somehow.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ๋“  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋ฒ”์œ„๋ฅผ ์ขํ˜€์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:17
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
18:18
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
18:19
The first place I'd say is the Grand Canyon.
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ณณ์€ ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:21
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
18:22
Dan: Because of course you have to see the Grand Canyon, right?
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Dan: ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„์„ ๋ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ž–์•„์š”?
18:25
I've never been there.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:27
I used to live in Colorado, but my family never made a trip to the Grand Canyon, and
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์— ์‚ด์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€ ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋‹ˆ์–ธ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ 
18:31
it just would be an amazing sight, I'm sure of it.
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์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๊ด‘๊ฒฝ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:34
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
18:35
Yeah.
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์‘.
18:36
Dan: Second would be the Pacific Northwest, just in general.
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Dan: ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ๋ถ์„œ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
18:40
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
18:41
Dan: Because I've heard it- Vanessa: Not like Portland, Seattle, and specific?
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Dan: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—- Vanessa: ํฌํ‹€๋žœ๋“œ, ์‹œ์• ํ‹€๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
18:43
Just- Dan: I think I would like to go to Seattle
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Just- Dan: ์‹œ์• ํ‹€์€
18:46
because it's a big city and the city sounds cool.
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๋Œ€๋„์‹œ์ด๊ณ  ๋„์‹œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ‹์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์œ ๋Ÿฝ๊ณผ ์•„์‹œ์•„์˜
18:51
Not many cities in the U.S. are that interesting to me because I've traveled in other places
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋„์‹œ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:55
in Europe and in Asia.
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. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋„์‹œ์ธ ๋‰ด์š•์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ 
18:58
And those cities are so much more vibrant, except for New York City, which is an awesome
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๊ทธ ๋„์‹œ๋“ค์€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํ™œ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:02
city.
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.
19:03
Vanessa: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of students- Dan: Sorry, U.S.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋งŽ์€ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด- Dan: ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ
19:05
Vanessa: ... want to visit the U.S. and they want to see these places.
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Vanessa: ... ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๊ณณ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:08
Dan: But I'm also from America, so it's like not as-
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์™”์–ด. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฑด-
19:12
Vanessa: It's always less interesting, yeah.
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Vanessa: ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
19:13
Dan: Yeah, it's less interesting to me.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๋œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์›Œ์š”.
19:15
But Seattle seems like a really cool town, and it's higher on my list than, say, Los
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹œ์• ํ‹€์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋„์‹œ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ณ  ์ œ ๋ชฉ๋ก์—์„œ ๋กœ์Šค์•ค์ ค๋ ˆ์Šค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ˆœ์œ„์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋กœ์Šค
19:19
Angeles, which just kind of seems like a big, sprawling, stinky place.
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์•ค์ ค๋ ˆ์Šค๋Š” ํฌ๊ณ  ๋„“๊ณ  ์•…์ทจ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:23
Vanessa: It seems like a lot more- Dan: No offense, L.A.
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Vanessa: ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ตฐ์š”- Dan: L.A.
19:26
Vanessa: It seems a lot more intimidating, at least.
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19:28
Dan: Okay, that's a nice way to put it.
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Dan: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:30
Vanessa: Like there's a lot going on there, but Seattle feels more comfortable.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‹œ์• ํ‹€์ด ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:34
Dan: Yeah, it seems pretty hip, too.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๊ฝค ํž™ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
19:36
Vanessa: The Northwest.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋…ธ์Šค์›จ์ŠคํŠธ์š”.
19:38
Dan: Yeah, the Northwest also because there's big mountains there, and then there's really
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๋ถ์„œ์ชฝ๋„ ํฐ ์‚ฐ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ •๋ง
19:43
lush and green forests.
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๋ฌด์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ํ‘ธ๋ฅธ ์ˆฒ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:44
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
19:45
Okay, cool.
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์ข‹์•„.
19:46
Dan: And I love taking hikes, and if you go at the right time of the year, because I've
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:49
heard it's very rainy in the Pacific Northwest, I'd like to go and take a nice hike up to
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ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ๋ถ์„œ๋ถ€์— ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์˜จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํฐ ์‚ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:55
a big mountain- Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
19:57
Dan: ... and maybe hop over to Canada, go to Vancouver, Vancouver Island.
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Dan: ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ Vancouver, Vancouver Island๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
20:01
Vanessa: That'd be cool.
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Vanessa: ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.
20:02
Dan: All of that area sounds really, really cool to me.
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Dan: ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ ธ์š”.
20:05
Vanessa: Yeah, I'd be up for that.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:07
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
20:08
Vanessa: Let's do it.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ•ด๋ณด์ž.
20:09
Dan: Let's do it.
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๋Œ„: ํ•ด๋ณด์ž.
20:10
Vanessa: Tomorrow.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋‚ด์ผ.
20:11
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
20:12
Vanessa: Maybe not tomorrow- Dan: Okay.
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:13
Vanessa: ... but I think that'd be really cool.
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Vanessa: ...ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
20:14
Dan: And third would be Colorado.
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Dan: ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:15
Vanessa: So revisit Colorado?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
20:18
Dan: This is a revisit.
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๋Œ„: ์žฌ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:19
I used to live in Colorado.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์— ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:20
I grew up there for five years of my life, and it was when I was a kid, and I used to
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ 5๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ž๋ž๊ณ , ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์„
20:25
really consider it my home.
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๋‚ด ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:27
But now I haven't been back in probably 15 years, or so.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 15๋…„ ์ •๋„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
20:32
Vanessa: Oh, that's a long time.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์˜ค๋žœ๋งŒ์ด๋„ค์š”.
20:33
Dan: It's been a really long time since I've been back, and I'd like to go and maybe travel
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๋Œ„: ์ •๋ง ์˜ค๋žœ๋งŒ์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ์™”๋Š”๋ฐ,
20:37
to where I was when I was a kid.
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„
20:39
It's gotten so much bigger than it was when I was a kid, so I'm sure there's so many more
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๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ปค์กŒ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:45
people there.
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.
20:46
But also, there's really great nature, there's a lot of really big mountains in Colorado,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋˜ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ž์—ฐ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํฐ ์‚ฐ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
20:51
there's the Garden of the Gods, which has really interesting rock formations.
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์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์•”์„์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ์ •์›์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:55
As you can tell, we're very nature driven, we want to go see natural places.
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๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์˜ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:00
Vanessa: Yeah, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ.
21:01
Well, a lot of my places have to do with nature too.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚ด ์žฅ์†Œ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋„ ์ž์—ฐ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:04
Dan: Yes, let's hear them.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์ž.
21:05
Vanessa: I almost said the Grand Canyon, but- Dan: You knew I was going to say it.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋‹ˆ์–ธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๋ป”ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ- Dan: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•  ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜์ž–์•„.
21:09
Vanessa: ... I kind of figured you'd say, and I think it would be really cool to camp
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Vanessa: ... ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:12
in the Grand Canyon, or go for a long hike in the Grand Canyon because you can't just-
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๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„์—์„œ ์บ ํ•‘์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„์—์„œ ๊ธด ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:17
Dan: With two children?
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์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๋“ค?
21:18
Vanessa: Well, maybe when they're older, or maybe we'll just leave them at home.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ง‘์— ๋†”๋‘˜์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ์š”.
21:22
Dan: They can take it.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:23
Vanessa: Because when you are just... when you're looking down at the Grand Canyon, that's
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Vanessa: ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ... ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋‹ค๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง
21:26
incredible, but I imagine going down into the Grand Canyon, that would also be just
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๋Œ€๋‹จํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„
21:32
another part of that- Dan: Oh, yeah.
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ผ ํ…๋ฐ- ๋Œ„: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
21:34
We'd have to- Vanessa: ... it would be so amazing.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”- Vanessa: ... ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:35
Dan: ... hike down in the Grand Canyon.
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Dan: ... ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„์—์„œ ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
21:36
Vanessa: Yeah, that'd be really cool.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
21:37
Dan: I should have mentioned that for sure.
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๋Œ„: ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ.
21:38
Vanessa: Maybe with a donkey.
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Vanessa: ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‹น๋‚˜๊ท€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜.
21:40
Dan: Because we're big hikers, we like to hike everywhere.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฐ ๋“ฑ์‚ฐ๊ฐ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์–ด๋””๋“ ์ง€ ํ•˜์ดํ‚นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:43
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
21:44
Yeah.
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์‘.
21:45
Well, one of my places is kind of the opposite of yours.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚ด ์žฅ์†Œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:47
It's not a big city, but you said the Pacific Northwest, and I said the Northeast.
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๋Œ€๋„์‹œ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ๋ถ์„œ๋ถ€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋™๋ถ๋ถ€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:53
I've never been to Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, this area.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฉ”์ธ, ๋‰ดํ–„ํ”„์…”, ๋ฒ„๋ชฌํŠธ, ์ด ์ง€์—ญ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:58
And I feel like one of the best road trips would be driving all the way up the East Coast
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ž๋™์ฐจ ์—ฌํ–‰ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋™๋ถ€ ํ•ด์•ˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์šด์ „ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฉ”์ธ
22:04
of the U.S., and going around Maine, and coming down through Vermont.
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์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋Œ์•„ ๋ฒ„๋ชฌํŠธ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ณ ๋‚ด๋ ค์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:10
I think all of that geography is just really different than everywhere else I've visited
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ง€ํ˜•์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ๊ณผ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:15
in the U.S. I've heard the coasts, like the Northeast coasts are really rocky, and lots
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๋ถ๋™๋ถ€ ํ•ด์•ˆ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ•ด์•ˆ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฐ”์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ณ 
22:21
of just kind of rugged coastline, that I think would be really cool to see.
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์šธํ‰๋ถˆํ‰ํ•œ ํ•ด์•ˆ์„ ์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ข‹๋‹ค.
22:26
And the forests, I've heard the forests in Vermont are amazing, just a different type
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆฒ, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฒ„๋ชฌํŠธ์˜ ์ˆฒ์ด ๋†€๋ž๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ˜•
22:36
of feel.
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์˜ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:37
We live in the mountains here in North Carolina, which is also a great place to visit-
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ณณ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ ๋…ธ์Šค์บ๋กค๋ผ์ด๋‚˜์˜ ์‚ฐ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:38
Dan: Yes.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ.
22:39
Vanessa: ... but we already are here.
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Vanessa: ... ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:40
Dan: We live here.
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์‚ด์•„์š”.
22:41
Vanessa: But I feel like the mountains, and the forests, and the coast, and other places
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฐ, ์ˆฒ, ํ•ด์•ˆ, ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€
22:45
are pretty various.
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๊ฝค ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
22:46
Dan: Yeah, it's also close to Canada.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค์™€๋„ ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:48
Vanessa: Yeah, that'd be cool.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ฒ ๋‹ค.
22:49
Dan: Got to hop over to Quebec- Vanessa: Yeah, maybe do that.
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Dan: Quebec- Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:52
Dan: ... because that sounds like a really cool place.
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Dan: ... ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ณณ ๊ฐ™๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
22:54
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
22:55
Dan: Vanessa speaks French, so- Vanessa: That'd be cool.
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Dan: Vanessa๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ค„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ- Vanessa: ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.
22:56
Dan: ... she'd like to speak some French to some Quebecois.
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Dan: ... ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” Quebecois์—๊ฒŒ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
22:59
Vanessa: That would be fun.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒ ๋‹ค.
23:01
Well, one of my others was kind of similar to what you were saying with Colorado and
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ–ˆ๊ณ 
23:05
that area, is going to Yosemite National Park.
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๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์€ ์š”์„ธ๋ฏธํ‹ฐ ๊ตญ๋ฆฝ ๊ณต์›์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:09
I feel like it's just a classic place to visit in the U.S. because there's so many national
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23:14
parks on the West Coast, it's kind of hard to choose.
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์„œ๋ถ€ ํ•ด์•ˆ์—๋Š” ๊ตญ๋ฆฝ๊ณต์›์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ์–ด๋ ต๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋”ฑ ์ข‹์€ ๊ณณ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
23:19
So I feel like- Dan: Yeah, well that one's a must, I think.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€- ๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ผญ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
23:21
Vanessa: Yeah, it's kind of one of the top three.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์ƒ์œ„ 3๊ฐœ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
23:23
Dan: Although I've heard it's gotten crazy popular.
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Dan: ๋ฏธ์นœ๋“ฏ์ด ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ .
23:26
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
23:27
Dan: You have to be on lists to get in.
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Dan: ์ž…์žฅํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋ชฉ๋ก์— ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:28
Vanessa: Whoa, really?
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Vanessa: ์šฐ์™€, ์ •๋ง์š”?
23:29
Dan: Maybe it's to just camp, I don't know.
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Dan: ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•ผ์˜์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:31
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
23:32
Dan: Your dad went through a lot of stuff, didn't he?
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๋Œ„: ๋„ˆํฌ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช์œผ์…จ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ˆ?
23:34
Vanessa: Yeah, when they camped, they had to...
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์บ ํ•‘์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ...
23:36
I think the camping spots were opened, say like May 3rd, the camping spots were opened
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5์›” 3์ผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์บ ํ•‘ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์—ด๋ ธ๊ณ , ์บ ํ•‘ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์—ด๋ ธ๊ณ ,
23:43
and you had to go online to sign up, and the website opened... or the camping registration
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๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ์ ‘์†ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์—ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ๋˜๋Š” ์บ ํ•‘ ๋“ฑ๋ก์€
23:48
opened at 6:00 AM, he booked at like 6:05 and there were two spots yet.
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์˜ค์ „ 6์‹œ์— ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” 6์‹œ 5๋ถ„์ฏค์— ์˜ˆ์•ฝํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์•„์ง ๋‘ ์ž๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:54
Everyone was cramming to camp in that spot.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์•ผ์˜์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฒผ๋ฝ์น˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
23:57
Dan: Camping season.
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๋Œ„: ์บ ํ•‘ ์‹œ์ฆŒ.
23:58
Vanessa: So yeah, I guess it's really popular.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
24:00
And that was for the whole year, that wasn't just for that day.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋…„ ๋‚ด๋‚ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋‚ ๋งŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:03
That was to book a spot to camp for that whole year.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ 1๋…„ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์•ผ์˜ํ•  ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ์•ฝํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
24:06
Anyway, that's crazy.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋‹ค.
24:07
So maybe we'll do that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:08
Maybe we need to book it five years in advance, but I think it'd be cool to visit national
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5๋…„ ์ „์— ์˜ˆ์•ฝํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์„œ๋ถ€์˜ ๊ตญ๋ฆฝ๊ณต์›์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ
24:12
parks in the west because most tourism, well there's a lot of city tourism in the U.S.,
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24:18
but I feel like a lot of tourism is natural tourism.
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๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์—ฐ ๊ด€๊ด‘.
24:22
Dan: Yeah, the meat of our tourism is nature.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€๊ด‘์˜ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:24
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
24:25
Yeah, because I feel like the U.S. is such a young country that we don't have Rome, we
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๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ Š์€ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—ฌ์„œ ๋กœ๋งˆ๋„ ์—†๊ณ 
24:31
don't have these old cities, and this kind of stuff you can visit in cities, it's more
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์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๋„์‹œ๋„ ์—†๊ณ  ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋”
24:34
nature, which is also old.
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์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:37
Dan: Except New York City.
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๋Œ„: ๋‰ด์š•์‹œ๋งŒ ๋นผ๊ณ ์š”.
24:38
Vanessa: Yeah, except New York's got a lot of cool stuff.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๋‰ด์š•์— ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ๋งŒ ๋นผ๋ฉด์š”.
24:40
Dan: As you can tell, I'm a big fan of New York.
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Dan: ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” ๋‰ด์š•์˜ ์—ด๋ ฌํ•œ ํŒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
24:42
It's just- Vanessa: It's a cool place to visit.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ- Vanessa: ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ณณ์ด์—์š”.
24:44
Dan: ... it's a wild animal.
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๋Œ„: ...์•ผ์ƒ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด์•ผ.
24:45
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
24:46
Dan: There's some quote about New York City, it's like, "You'd be crazy to live here, you'd
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Dan: ๋‰ด์š• ์‹œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์‚ด๋ฉด ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ง“์ด๊ณ ,
24:50
be crazy to leave."
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๋– ๋‚˜๋ฉด ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ง“์ด์•ผ."
24:51
Which is perfect.
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์–ด๋Š ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:52
Vanessa: Oh, well I heard another quote that said, "New York is twice as fun, but it's
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, "๋‰ด์š•์€ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋Š” ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
24:58
three times as expensive."
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์„ธ ๋ฐฐ๋Š” ๋น„์‹ธ๋‹ค"๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:01
So it's really fun, but it's even more expensive.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ๋น„์Œ‰๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:03
Dan: That's also true.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์•ผ.
25:04
Vanessa: Especially if you live there.
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Vanessa: ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์‚ฐ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
25:05
Well, my third and final place is, can you guess?
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚ด ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์ด์ž ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์žฅ์†Œ๋Š”, ์ง์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
25:09
Dan: I don't remember.
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๋Œ„: ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜์š”.
25:11
Vanessa: Hawaii.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ•˜์™€์ด.
25:12
Dan: Oh, I read your list before, but I don't remember.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ์ „์— ๋‹น์‹  ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
25:14
Vanessa: Well, I feel like Hawaii, it's in the U.S., but it's not.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•˜์™€์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์š” . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
25:17
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
25:18
Vanessa: It's so far away, but it's still part of the U.S. and it would be incredible
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Vanessa: ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ด๊ณ 
25:22
to visit Hawaii.
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ํ•˜์™€์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:23
Dan: It's kind of like cheating, it's like, "I'm in the U.S."
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Dan: ์ด๊ฑด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ถ€์ • ํ–‰์œ„์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”."
25:26
Vanessa: And it's so far away from the U.S. Dan: But it's like, "This isn't America, come
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ "์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:30
on."
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์–ด์„œ."
25:31
Vanessa: Yeah, it would be really cool.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
25:32
I'm curious, if you've ever been to Hawaii if you'd recommend it.
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ํ•˜์™€์ด์— ๊ฐ€๋ณด์‹  ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ถ”์ฒœํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
25:34
I know your parents are planning on going there next May.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋„ˆํฌ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ๋‚ด๋…„ 5์›”์— ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐˆ ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
25:37
Dan: Yeah, and get this, my mom was like, "And I booked these extra rooms just in case
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฑธ ๋ฐ›์œผ์„ธ์š”. ์ €ํฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” "๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ€๋น„ํ•ด์„œ ์ด ์—ฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฐฉ์„ ์˜ˆ์•ฝํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
25:42
somebody wanted to join."
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."
25:43
She winked at us.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์œ™ํฌํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
25:44
Vanessa: We will have a two month old baby when they go.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๋‹ฌ ๋œ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
25:48
Maybe we'll go to Hawaii, I don't know.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜์™€์ด์— ๊ฐˆ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:50
It's a little soon, I think.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ณง์ผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
25:52
Dan: I'm saying, "Yes- Vanessa: We'll let you know.
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Dan: "์˜ˆ- Vanessa: ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:54
Dan: ... let's go."
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Dan: ...๊ฐ€์ž."
25:55
You'll find out.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:56
Vanessa: I think it'd be really cool to go to Hawaii, just to see volcanoes, and hiking,
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์™€์ด์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ํ™”์‚ฐ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ , ํ•˜์ดํ‚นํ•˜๊ณ ,
25:58
and moving around, and scuba diving, and it's so different.
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์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ณ , ์Šค์ฟ ๋ฒ„ ๋‹ค์ด๋น™์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
26:01
Dan: That would be the problem.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:04
Trying to do all we want to do.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:05
But if my parents are there, they can watch the kids.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
26:07
Vanessa: They can watch our kids, so we're going to crash their vacation and make them
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ง์น˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
26:12
watch our kids- Dan: Yes.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ์˜ˆ.
26:13
Yes.
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์˜ˆ.
26:14
Vanessa: ... while we go have fun?
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Vanessa: ... ๋†€๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ?
26:15
Dan: Vacation crashers.
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๋Œ„: ํœด๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ž˜์…”.
26:16
Vanessa: Sounds great, so I'm curious for you, what are some locations that you'd like
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:20
to visit in the U.S.? Or maybe somewhere that you've already been that you'd like to go
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ณณ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:24
back to.
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.
26:25
Let us know.
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์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
26:26
Let's go on to the next topic.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:27
The next topic is food.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:28
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
26:30
Vanessa: I want to know, what are some of your favorite foods, specifically to cook
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์Œ์‹์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
26:34
at home?
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?
26:35
Dan: To cook at home?
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๋Œ„: ์ง‘์—์„œ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ ?
26:36
Well- Vanessa: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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์Œ- Vanessa: Mm-hmm(๊ธ์ •).
26:37
Not to eat, not that someone else makes, but that we cook at home.
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๋จน๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๋‚จ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:39
Dan: Yes, usually I go for bulk items.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๋ณดํ†ต์€ ๋ถ€ํ”ผ๊ฐ€ ํฐ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:41
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
26:42
Dan: Not bulk items, bulk meals.
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Dan: ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ํ’ˆ๋ชฉ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ ์‹์‚ฌ.
26:44
Something that I can get for days, and days, and days.
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๋ฉฐ์น , ๋ฉฐ์น , ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ .
26:46
Vanessa: Or you could put it in the freezer and have the next week.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ƒ‰๋™์‹ค์— ๋„ฃ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ๋จน์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
26:48
Dan: This is a very, I think, a male way to think about it.
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Dan: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
26:52
You've got to make a bulk and make it last.
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๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:54
Vanessa: Ah, utilitarian cooking.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ์‹ค์šฉ์ ์ธ ์š”๋ฆฌ.
26:56
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
26:57
Although, you're kind of similar, I think.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:58
Vanessa: I don't like making a new meal every single day.
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Vanessa: ์ €๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:02
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
27:03
Vanessa: If we have a soup that's in the freezer that we made the week before, that's great,
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Vanessa: ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ์ „์— ๋งŒ๋“  ์ˆ˜ํ”„๊ฐ€ ๋ƒ‰๋™์‹ค์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:08
save some time.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ข€ ์ ˆ์•ฝํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
27:10
Dan: Sure, yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
27:11
The first thing I like to make, I think we have the same one-
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ œ์ผ ๋จผ์ € ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
27:13
Vanessa: Oh, yeah?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜?
27:14
Dan: ... is chili.
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๋Œ„: ...์น ๋ฆฌ์•ผ.
27:15
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
27:16
Dan: Yeah, we both like to make chili.
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Dan: ์‘, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์น ๋ฆฌ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด.
27:17
Vanessa: Yeah, some people call this chili con carne in other countries, but in the U.S.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์น ๋ฆฌ ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฅด๋„ค๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”
27:21
we just say, "Chili."
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ "์น ๋ฆฌ"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:22
Dan: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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๋Œ„: ์Œ-ํ (๊ธ์ •).
27:23
Usually I make the chili, so I mean, it's so easy to make, you just ground up some beef,
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๋ณดํ†ต ์ €๋Š” ์น ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์š”, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ์ฃ . ์‡ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐˆ๊ณ ,
27:29
then you chop a bunch of vegetables, add a ton of spices, throw it in a pot and make
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์•ผ์ฑ„๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์ง€๊ณ , ํ–ฅ์‹ ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋“ฌ๋ฟ ๋„ฃ๊ณ , ๋ƒ„๋น„์— ๋„ฃ๊ณ 
27:34
it boil, and it's done.
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๋“์ด๋ฉด ์™„์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
27:35
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
27:36
Yeah, it's great.
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๋„ค, ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:37
And it gets even better as it kind of melds those flavors together over a couple days.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ ๋ง›์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋…น์ผ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ์ข‹์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:42
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
27:43
And you throw in some cheese, and sour cream, and some kind of grain, some rice or something.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์น˜์ฆˆ, ์‚ฌ์›Œ ํฌ๋ฆผ, ๊ณก๋ฌผ, ์Œ€ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋„ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:49
And yeah, it's always very satisfying, it reminds me of fall and winter.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์„๊ณผ ๊ฒจ์šธ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:53
It's a very nice, cozy meal.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€, ์•„๋Š‘ํ•œ ์‹์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:54
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
27:55
Hot tip, don't leave it on your counter for three days and then try to eat it.
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ํŒ, 3์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ์นด์šดํ„ฐ์— ๋‘์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋“œ์„ธ์š” . ๋จน์€
27:59
It should always go in the fridge after you eat it.
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ํ›„์—๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ƒ‰์žฅ๊ณ ์— ๋„ฃ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
28:02
Dan: Who did that?
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๋Œ„: ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด?
28:03
Vanessa: Dan did that in college- Dan: Oh.
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Vanessa: Dan์€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ์˜ค.
28:05
Vanessa: ... and got sick.
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Vanessa: ...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„ํŒ ์–ด์š”.
28:06
Dan: I didn't leave it on the counter, my roommate left the chili out.
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๋Œ„: ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์นด์šดํ„ฐ์— ๋‘์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”. ์ œ ๋ฃธ๋ฉ”์ดํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ์ถ”๋ฅผ ๋†”๋’€์–ด์š”.
28:10
Vanessa: Oh, and you just ate it?
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋จน์—ˆ์–ด?
28:11
Dan: Yeah, he left the pot out.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ƒ„๋น„๋ฅผ ๋ฒ„๋ ธ์–ด์š”. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€
28:12
It was already like, this is college life here, it was already probably a week old and
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๋Œ€ํ•™ ์ƒํ™œ์ด๊ตฌ๋‚˜ , ๋ฒŒ์จ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ์ •๋„ ๋์„ ํ…๋ฐ
28:17
he left it on the counter all day, and he didn't tell me-
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ ์นด์šดํ„ฐ์— ๋†”๋‘๊ณ  ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ง์„ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด-
28:20
Vanessa: Not a good idea.
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ.
28:21
Dan: ... and then I went and ate it that night, and then I got really sick.
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๋Œ„: ...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋‚  ๋ฐค์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋จน์—ˆ๋”๋‹ˆ ์ •๋ง ํ† ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
28:24
Vanessa: But you still like chili, so it didn't- Dan: But I still like chili.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์น ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์น ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:26
Vanessa: ... taint your idea of chili.
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Vanessa: ... ๊ณ ์ถ”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋”๋Ÿฝํžˆ์„ธ์š”.
28:28
Dan: It probably did for like a year.
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Dan: ์•„๋งˆ 1๋…„ ์ •๋„ ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:30
Vanessa: Really?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ •๋ง์š”?
28:31
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
28:32
Yeah.
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์‘.
28:33
Vanessa: I feel like we're especially thinking- Dan: TMI?
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan: TMI?
28:34
Vanessa: ... thinking about those types of foods because it's getting colder here, so
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ ์  ์ถ”์›Œ์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 7์›”์—
28:39
making lots of warm, hearty foods, as opposed to in July-
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๋น„ํ•ด ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ณ  ํ‘ธ์งํ•œ ์Œ์‹์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:44
Dan: Yes.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ.
28:45
Vanessa: ... we don't make chili because it's so hot.
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Vanessa: ... ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์›Œ์„œ ์น ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
28:46
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
28:47
Vanessa: You make other kinds of fresh things.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‹ ์„ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:48
Dan: I have trouble making summer food, because I like hot food.
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๋Œ„: ์ €๋Š” ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ์Œ์‹์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์Œ์‹์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
28:50
Vanessa: Ah, like soups and that kind of stuff.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ์ˆ˜ํ”„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์š”.
28:52
Dan: Although, when we lived in South Korea, I think, didn't they have something where
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด ๋•Œ๋Š”
28:55
they eat something super hot in the summer?
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์—ฌ๋ฆ„์— ์—„์ฒญ ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ๊ฑธ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์—†์—ˆ๋‚˜ ๋ด์š”.
28:57
Vanessa: I think hot or spicy, is that- Dan: And it's like I'm just eating, and you're
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Vanessa: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋œจ๊ฒ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งค์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan: ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฅ์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€
29:02
sweating, and the water's pouring off your face.
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๋•€์„ ํ˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์–ผ๊ตด์—์„œ ๋ฌผ์ด ์Ÿ์•„์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
29:03
And, "Yeah, this is healthy."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  "๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ด๊ฑด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•ด."
29:04
It's a very Korean thing.
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์•„์ฃผ ํ•œ๊ตญ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:05
They've got to be diligent.
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๋ถ€์ง€๋Ÿฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:07
Vanessa: Wow.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™€.
29:08
Well, what are some of your other favorite foods?
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์Œ์‹์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
29:09
You said chili.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์น ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
29:10
We're on the first one.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:11
Dan: Number two would be tacos.
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Dan: ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ํƒ€์ฝ”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:13
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
29:14
Dan: I got a Mexican food thing, I think, although I don't consider chili a Mexican
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Dan: ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ” ์Œ์‹์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์น ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ” ์Œ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
29:18
food, but you said chili con carne, so- Vanessa: Maybe.
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, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์น ๋ฆฌ ์ฝ˜ ์นด๋ฅด๋„ค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ- Vanessa: ์•„๋งˆ๋„์š”.
29:22
Yeah.
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์‘.
29:23
Dan: ... I don't know.
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๋Œ„: ... ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
29:24
Maybe it's Mexican inspired.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”์—์„œ ์˜๊ฐ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:25
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์ข…๋ฅ˜๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜
29:26
What kind of tacos do you like to make, because there's so many different types-
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ํƒ€์ฝ”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
29:28
Dan: Ground beef, again, just all the spices, and it's kind of one of those easy things
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Dan: ๊ฐˆ์€ ์‡ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ, ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
29:33
to make, and then you can pile all kinds of toppings, you can put salsa on it.
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๋ชจ๋“  ํ–ฅ์‹ ๋ฃŒ๋งŒ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์‚ด์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:37
Yeah, it's just delicious.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ง›์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:38
Vanessa: I like when you make fish tacos.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ์„  ํƒ€์ฝ”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์•„์š”.
29:40
Dan: Yeah, fish tacos are good too.
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๋Œ„: ์‘, ์ƒ์„  ํƒ€์ฝ”๋„ ๋ง›์žˆ์–ด.
29:42
Vanessa: Sometimes when Dan makes fish tacos, or sometimes I make them too, we get some
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Vanessa: ๊ฐ€๋” Dan์ด ์ƒ์„  ํƒ€์ฝ”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๋•Œ, ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋” ๋‚˜๋„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๋•Œ
29:46
kind of white fish like cod or tilapia, and bread it, and then bake it so it's baked,
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๋Œ€๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ํ‹ธ๋ผํ”ผ์•„ ๊ฐ™์€ ํฐ์‚ด ์ƒ์„ ์„ ๊ตฌํ•ด์„œ ๋นต์— ๋„ฃ๊ณ  ๊ตฌ์›Œ์„œ ๊ตฌ์›Œ์„œ
29:51
and then you have some kind of cabbage slaw mixed up on top with some spices in it, and
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์–‘๋ฐฐ์ถ” ์Šฌ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์„ž๋Š”๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์œ„์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ–ฅ์‹ ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์–น๊ณ 
29:59
you put that on the tortilla with the fish, with the kind of spicy cabbage, maybe slices
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์ƒ์„ ์„ ๊ณ๋“ค์ธ ํ† ๋ฅดํ‹ฐ์•ผ ์œ„์— ๋งค์ฝคํ•œ ์–‘๋ฐฐ์ถ”์™€
30:03
of avocado.
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์•„๋ณด์นด๋„ ์กฐ๊ฐ์„ ์–น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:04
Dan: Yeah, and the mayo.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์š”๋„ค์ฆˆ.
30:05
Vanessa: Yeah, some mayo, maybe some- Dan: Spicy mayo.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋งˆ์š”๋„ค์ฆˆ, ์•„๋งˆ- Dan: ๋งค์ฝคํ•œ ๋งˆ์š”๋„ค์ฆˆ.
30:08
Vanessa: ... pico de gallo, some salsa on top, that's also great.
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Vanessa: ... ํ”ผ์ฝ” ๋ฐ ๊ฐˆ๋กœ, ์œ„์— ์‚ด์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์–น๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:11
We make that a lot in the summer, because that is kind of a fresh type of thing.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์— ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์‹ ์„ ํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:15
Dan: Yeah, well speaking of fish- Vanessa: Yes?
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ ์–˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™€์„œ ๋ง์ธ๋ฐ- Vanessa: ๋„ค?
30:17
Dan: ... my third would be salmon.
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Dan: ... ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์—ฐ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:18
Vanessa: Oh, how do you like to make salmon?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์—ฐ์–ด ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋•Œ?
30:20
Dan: Well, I think you can make it in a lot of different ways, but just throw it in the
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์˜ค๋ธ์— ๋„ฃ์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:23
oven with some... like lately we've been adding lemon slices and dill, and just keeping it
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์ตœ๊ทผ์—๋Š” ๋ ˆ๋ชฌ ์กฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋”œ์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ณธ๋งŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
30:29
basic.
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.
30:30
Vanessa: Sometimes we put- Dan: Oh, and butter.
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Vanessa: ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”- Dan: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ.
30:31
Vanessa: Oh, butter.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ.
30:32
Of course, butter.
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ.
30:33
Dan: That's important.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์š”.
30:34
Vanessa: Sometimes we do it in the opposite way with soy sauce, and sesame oil, kind of
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Vanessa: ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ„์žฅ๊ณผ ์ฐธ๊ธฐ๋ฆ„์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:37
more- Dan: You do it that way.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
30:38
Vanessa: ... Asian style.
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Vanessa: ... ์•„์‹œ์•ˆ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ.
30:39
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
30:40
Vanessa: And that's also great with rice, or some kind of veggie.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ฐฅ์ด๋‚˜ ์•ผ์ฑ„์™€๋„ ์ž˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
30:42
Dan: I do it more European style.
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๋Œ„: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํ•œ๋‹ค.
30:44
Vanessa: Yeah, well I think you can't go wrong with salmon.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์—ฐ์–ด๋Š” ์ž˜๋ชป๋  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
30:46
Dan: Yeah, but it's just a very healthy meal that tastes very filling, and fulfilling.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์ฃผ ํฌ๋งŒ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋งŒ์กฑ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ง›์ด ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์‹์‚ฌ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:50
Vanessa: Yeah, I think your answers have been much more varied than mine.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ ์ €๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:54
Dan: Oh, yeah?
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜?
30:55
Vanessa: Because I was going to say soup, soup, and soup.
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ”„, ์ˆ˜ํ”„, ์ˆ˜ํ”„๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:57
Dan: Oh.
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค.
30:58
Vanessa: I think that, especially now because it's the begging of the winter, those are
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Vanessa: ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ตฌ๊ฑธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒจ์šธ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
31:03
the types of things that we like to eat.
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๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ์ข…๋ฅ˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:04
But recently, I've been making a lot of butternut squash soup, and it's a type of squash, and
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋‹จํ˜ธ๋ฐ• ์ˆ˜ํ”„๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ํ˜ธ๋ฐ•์˜ ์ผ์ข…์ธ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ป์งˆ์„
31:11
you just peel it, and then you chop it up, and you steam it with some cumin, and paprika,
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๋ฒ—๊ธด ๋‹ค์Œ ์ž˜๊ฒŒ ์ฐ๊ณ  ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ๋ฏผ๊ณผ ํŒŒํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด,
31:17
and coconut milk, and red peppers- Dan: It's a nice appetizer.
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์ฝ”์ฝ”๋„› ๋ฐ€ํฌ๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ๊ณ  ์ฐ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ ๊ณ ์ถ”- Dan: ์ข‹์€ ์• ํ”ผํƒ€์ด์ €์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:22
Vanessa: ... and you can also maybe dip some bread in it's mixed together, because you
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Vanessa: ...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์„ž์ธ ๋นต์„ ๋‹ด๊ธ€ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
31:27
have to blend it.
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.
31:28
It's really great.
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์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ญ”๊ฐ€
31:29
It feels kind of cleansing, especially if you've eaten-
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์ •ํ™”๋˜๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด์—์š”. ํŠนํžˆ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด-
31:32
Dan: It's not filling enough to me.
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๋Œ„: ํฌ๋งŒ๊ฐ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•ด์š”.
31:33
Vanessa: It's nice to have with something else sometimes.
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Vanessa: ๊ฐ€๋” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
31:35
Dan: I need some meat in my life.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ด.
31:37
Vanessa: Typical answer, right?
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Vanessa: ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด์ฃ ?
31:40
I think we also made a really great, it's called Italian vegetable soup, but I don't
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•ˆ ์•ผ์ฑ„ ์ˆ˜ํ”„๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
31:44
know if it's actually Italian, I don't know why it's considered Italian.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•ˆ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๊ณ  ์™œ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์ฃผ๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:48
Dan: It's probably Italian American.
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Dan: ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„๊ณ„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:50
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
31:51
Dan: Everything American's say is Italian, I bet you every Italian out there is like,
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Dan: ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์ธ์€
31:55
"That is not Italian."
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"๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:56
Vanessa: Yeah, that- Dan: "What is this?"
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ- Dan: "์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ญ์ง€?"
32:00
Vanessa: That is not- Dan: Is that Italian?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฑด- Dan: ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์–ด์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
32:02
Vanessa: ... an Italian accent, but that's okay.
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Vanessa: ...์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์–ต์–‘์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:03
Dan: Zut alors.
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๋Œ„: ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”.
32:04
Vanessa: That is- Dan: Oh, that's French.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฑด- Dan: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด์—์š”.
32:05
Vanessa: Yeah, certainly not Italian.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์–ด๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:07
Though when we make the Italian vegetable soup, it's basically every vegetable you can
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์•ผ์ฑ„ ์ˆ˜ํ”„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๋•Œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
32:12
imagine mixed in a pot, even with some tomatoes, and cabbage, and everything, peppers, and
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๋ƒ„๋น„์— ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์•ผ์ฑ„๊ฐ€ ์„ž์—ฌ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ† ๋งˆํ† , ์–‘๋ฐฐ์ถ”, ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ, ๊ณ ์ถ”,
32:20
everything mixed together, and some ground beef.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์„ž์ด๊ณ  ๊ฐˆ์€ ์‡ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:22
So it kind of has a hearty, beefy flavor, but it also has a lot of vegetables so it
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ‘ธ์งํ•˜๊ณ  ์†Œ๊ณ ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง›๋„ ๋‚˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ผ์ฑ„๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
32:28
feels healthy and filling with some nice bread to dip it in.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋Š๋‚Œ๋„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋นต์— ์ฐ์–ด๋จน๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ํฌ๋งŒ๊ฐ๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š” .
32:32
Dan: It was very good.
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๋Œ„: ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์•˜์–ด์š”.
32:33
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
32:34
Dan: Although, I will say that you can probably tell from this conversation that we are not
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ์•„๋งˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
32:38
chefs.
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์š”๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:39
Vanessa: No.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
32:40
Dan: We don't prepare like really good meals very often.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ž์ฃผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
32:43
Vanessa: Or something that's fancy.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฒƒ.
32:44
Dan: They're delicious, but they're not... they don't have, you know, what's a sous vide,
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Dan: ๋ง›์žˆ๊ธด ํ•œ๋ฐ... ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ์—†์–ด์š”. ์ˆ˜๋น„๋“œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑด ์—†์–ด์š”
32:48
or something.
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.
32:49
Vanessa: Oh, something that's really exciting.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์ •๋ง ์‹ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋„ค์š”.
32:51
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
32:52
Vanessa: Well- Dan: Although I did make risotto, that was
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Vanessa: ์Œ- Dan: ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
32:55
really good.
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์ •๋ง ๋ง›์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:56
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
32:57
You've made risotto a lot.
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๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋˜ ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ๋“œ์…จ์–ด์š”.
32:58
Dan: I made some really good risotto, and I felt like it took a lot of work, and that
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๋Œ„: ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋˜๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์†์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ
33:00
was fun.
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
33:01
Vanessa: I think it took some particular attention to detail and I won't do that.
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Vanessa: ๋””ํ…Œ์ผ์— ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:05
Dan: You know, you use lemon zest, any time you use lemon zest, I feel like you're probably
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Dan: ์žˆ์ž–์•„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ ˆ๋ชฌ ์ œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ ˆ๋ชฌ ์ œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์•„๋งˆ
33:10
crossing over to chef territory.
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์…ฐํ”„์˜ ์˜์—ญ์„ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:11
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
33:12
Well, you have crossed over into chef territory a few times.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์š”๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ ์˜์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:15
I remain clearly on the other side, just happily eating whatever you make.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์— ๋‚จ์•„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:19
But I'm curious for you, what are some of your favorite foods to eat at home?
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๊ทผ๋ฐ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•œ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ฆ๊ฒจ๋จน๋Š” ์Œ์‹์ด ๋ญ์—์š”? ์ง‘์—์„œ
33:24
What are some of your favorite foods to make at home?
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์Œ์‹์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
33:26
Maybe it's something that comes from your country, or maybe it's just something that
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
33:29
you like to make, like toast, something simple.
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ํ† ์ŠคํŠธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:31
Let us know.
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์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
33:32
Dan: Toast.
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๋Œ„: ํ† ์ŠคํŠธ.
33:33
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
33:34
All right, let's go to the next topic.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:37
The next topic is housing.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์ฃผํƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:39
I want you to dream big, if you could have your dream home, what three features would
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ํฐ ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊พธ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฟˆ์— ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋˜ ์ง‘์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํŠน์ง•์ด
33:46
it have?
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์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
33:47
Let's say this is a dream home, this is idealistic, this is not realistic.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง‘์ด๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด์ƒ์ฃผ์˜์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
33:52
Dan: This is probably not going to happen to us.
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Dan: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:54
Vanessa: No, but it's just a dream.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฟˆ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด์•ผ.
33:56
Everyone can dream, right?
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ฃ ?
33:57
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
33:58
Vanessa: What would you ideally love to have?
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
34:00
Dan: A palace.
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๋Œ„: ๊ถ์ „.
34:01
A castle.
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์„ฑ.
34:02
Vanessa: Hopefully you can hire some people to clean it at that point.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์ฒญ์†Œํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ณ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
34:05
Dan: Okay, not really.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด, ๋ณ„๋กœ.
34:06
So the features of the home?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ง‘์˜ ํŠน์ง•์€?
34:08
Vanessa: Yes, what three features would you love to have if you could dream and build
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊พธ๊ณ 
34:12
your own home?
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ง‘์„ ์ง€์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
34:14
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
34:15
Well, first, I would want the living room, and I don't know is a living common in other
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋จผ์ € ๊ฑฐ์‹ค์„ ์› ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ์ƒํ™œ ๊ณต์œ ์ง€๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:20
countries?
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34:21
Vanessa: Yeah, a place where you have a couch, and maybe a TV.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์†ŒํŒŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  TV๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์š”.
34:22
Dan: This is where you gather together, where you have the couch, and where you visit with
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๋Œ„: ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ๊ณณ, ์†ŒํŒŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ, ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ
34:26
friends.
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.
34:27
I would like this room to be humongous, and have a really large window.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ๋ฐฉ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ํฐ ์ฐฝ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋‹ค.
34:33
Vanessa: Are we talking soccer field size humongous, or are we talking like twice as
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Vanessa: ์ถ•๊ตฌ์žฅ ํฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š” , ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
34:37
big as a normal one?
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๋ณดํ†ต ์ถ•๊ตฌ์žฅ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋‚˜ ํฐ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
34:38
Dan: I'm talking football stadium big.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ์žฅ์ด ํฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:41
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
34:42
Dan: No, not really.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋ณ„๋กœ.
34:43
Just large.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—…๊ณ„์—์„œ
34:44
Large ceilings, vaulted ceilings as they say in the industry.
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ฒœ์žฅ, ์•„์น˜ํ˜• ์ฒœ์žฅ .
34:47
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
34:48
Dan: And a very large window.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ํฐ ์ฐฝ๋ฌธ.
34:49
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
34:50
Dan: Or large windows.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํฐ ์ฐฝ๋ฌธ.
34:51
Vanessa: I said the same thing.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋‚˜๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
34:52
I would like a main room with a big window.
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ํฐ ์ฐฝ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฉ”์ธ ๋ฃธ์„ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:54
Dan: Yes, but there's more.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:55
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
34:56
Dan: And it needs a great view, an incredible view.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ „๋ง, ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ „๋ง์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
34:58
Vanessa: Oh, what's a good view for you?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ์ „๋ง์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
35:00
What would be an ideal view?
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์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ „๋ง์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
35:01
Dan: I really love looking out at the ocean, that would be great.
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Dan: ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
35:04
I'm not a big fan of where I live on the East Coast of America, the beaches are all kind
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋™๋ถ€ ํ•ด์•ˆ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณณ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•ด๋ณ€์€
35:10
of the same to me.
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:11
They're not my favorite.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:13
This would be in the Mediterranean, on a big cliff.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด์˜ ํฐ ์ ˆ๋ฒฝ์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
35:15
Vanessa: Oh, so it wouldn't be- Dan: Yeah, a cliff side home.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์•ˆ ๋˜๊ฒ ์ฃ - Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ ˆ๋ฒฝ ์ชฝ ์ง‘.
35:18
Vanessa: ... in the U.S., okay.
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Vanessa: ... ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:20
Dan: Yeah, it wouldn't be in the U.S., sorry U.S.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:22
Well, maybe somewhere in the U.S. I don't know.
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์Œ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:24
Vanessa: Could be Pacific Northwest, you've never been there.
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Vanessa: ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ๋ถ์„œ๋ถ€์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:27
You don't know.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค.
35:28
Dan: It may be the Pacific Northwest, maybe that's my kind of ocean view.
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Dan: ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ๋ถ์„œ๋ถ€์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ์ „๋ง์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:29
Vanessa: Yeah, so you'd like an ocean view?
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ์ „๋ง์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
35:30
Dan: It'd be really high.
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Dan: ์ •๋ง ๋†’์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:33
Looking down on my kingdom.
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๋‚ด ์™•๊ตญ์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋‹ค๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:34
Vanessa: So you'd need to be a king too?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์™•์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
35:36
Dan: I have to be a king in this scenario.
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๋Œ„: ์ด ์‹œ๋‚˜๋ฆฌ์˜ค์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™•์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ด.
35:38
Vanessa: This is getting a little excessive.
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Vanessa: ์ด๊ฑด ์ข€ ์ง€๋‚˜์น˜๋„ค์š”.
35:39
Dan: So yeah, a really big, open ocean view.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ •๋ง ํฌ๊ณ  ํƒ ํŠธ์ธ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ์ „๋ง์ด์•ผ.
35:43
Remember, this is dreaming.
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๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฟˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:44
Vanessa: This is dreaming.
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Vanessa: ์ด๊ฑด ๊ฟˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:45
All right, keep dreaming.
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์ข‹์•„, ๊ณ„์† ๊ฟˆ๊ฟ”.
35:46
What else would you like?
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๋˜ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
35:47
Dan: All right, so it's very open, so close by would be a very epic, open kitchen.
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Dan: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด์–ด์„œ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๊ณณ์— ๋งค์šฐ ์„œ์‚ฌ์ ์ธ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉํ˜• ์ฃผ๋ฐฉ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:52
Vanessa: Oh, so open you mean it's connected to the living space?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๊ฑฐ์‹ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š” ?
35:55
Dan: Yeah, this is popular, I think, nowadays in architecture.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์š”์ฆ˜ ๊ฑด์ถ•์—์„œ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
35:57
Vanessa: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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Vanessa: Mm-hmm(๊ธ์ •).
35:58
Dan: Yeah, so open to the living room.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๊ฑฐ์‹ค ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ์—ด๋ ค ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
36:01
Vanessa: So as you're cooking- Dan: At least-
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์š”๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ- Dan: ์ ์–ด๋„-
36:02
Vanessa: ... you can still talk to your guests.
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Vanessa: ... ์†๋‹˜๊ณผ ๊ณ„์† ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:04
Dan: Yeah, at least part of the kitchen would be visible.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋ถ€์—Œ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:06
Vanessa: Yeah, so at the moment, our kitchen is open to the living room.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ €ํฌ ์ฃผ๋ฐฉ์€ ๊ฑฐ์‹ค ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ์—ด๋ ค ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
36:10
Dan: Yes, we have this now.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:12
Vanessa: We don't have an epic, giant- Dan: Except for the view.
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Vanessa: ์žฅ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ์ธ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋งŒ ๋นผ๊ณ ์š”.
36:14
Vanessa: ... living room with a view of the Mediterranean.
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Vanessa: ... ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์‹ค .
36:17
Dan: And the big kitchen.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฐ ๋ถ€์—Œ.
36:18
Vanessa: Yes, but we have an open space, so it's kind of like one room.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ๋œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋ฐฉ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
36:22
Our kitchen is connected to our living space, so when our guests, or our friends, or our
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์ฃผ๋ฐฉ์€ ์ƒํ™œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด ์†๋‹˜์ด๋‚˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ,
36:26
family, or our kids are in the living space, the living room, we can see them and still
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๊ฐ€์กฑ, ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ƒํ™œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„, ๊ฑฐ์‹ค์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ
36:31
kind of interact.
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์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:32
So this type of layout is pretty popular, at least in newer houses, or as people remodel
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๋ ˆ์ด์•„์›ƒ์€ ๊ฝค ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ƒˆ ์ง‘์—์„œ ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
36:39
their houses, they're kind of looking for this open layout, is what it's called.
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์ง‘์„ ๋ฆฌ๋ชจ๋ธ๋งํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉํ˜• ๋ ˆ์ด์•„์›ƒ์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:43
Dan: Yeah, it's called an open floor plan.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉํ˜• ํ‰๋ฉด๋„๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:44
Vanessa: Open floor plan, that's the word.
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Vanessa: ์˜คํ”ˆ ํ”Œ๋กœ์–ด ํ”Œ๋žœ, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:46
Yeah.
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์‘.
36:47
So anything else you would like in this amazing house?
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์ด ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ง‘์—์„œ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
36:48
Dan: Yes, there's one more thing in my palace.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ œ ๊ถ์ „์— ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:51
Vanessa: Okay, in your kingdom.
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์™•๊ตญ์—์„œ์š”.
36:53
Dan: In my kingdom.
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๋Œ„: ๋‚ด ์™•๊ตญ์—์„œ.
36:54
So there would be a game room, because I love games a lot.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ๋ฌด์ฒ™ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฒŒ์ž„๋ฐฉ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
36:59
Vanessa: Okay, what kind of games?
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์•„, ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒŒ์ž„?
37:00
Dan: All kinds of games.
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๋Œ„: ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒŒ์ž„.
37:01
So we actually rented a place like this that was very similar.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด์™€ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ž„๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
37:04
Vanessa: Oh, like your grandparents rented that beach house.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ๊ทธ ๋น„์น˜ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋นŒ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
37:06
Dan: Actually my grandma rented it.
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๋Œ„: ์‚ฌ์‹ค ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋นŒ๋ ธ์–ด. ๋น„์น˜
37:07
It was a beach house, so it was like four layers of house.
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ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค๋ผ 4 ์ธต์ง‘ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”.
37:11
Vanessa: That's crazy.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ๋ผ.
37:12
Dan: It was humongous.
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๋Œ„: ์—„์ฒญ๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”.
37:13
It was called The Ritz- Vanessa: Of course.
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The Ritz- Vanessa: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
37:14
Dan: ... which is like a fancy thing.
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๋Œ„: ...๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€.
37:16
So the very top floor of this building was just this giant game room.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์˜ ์ตœ์ƒ์ธต์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜ค๋ฝ์‹ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:22
They had a pool table, they had a- Vanessa: A ping-pong.
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๋‹น๊ตฌ๋Œ€๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํƒ๊ตฌ.
37:25
Dan: Oh, that was... the ping-pong table was somewhere else.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑด... ํƒ๊ตฌ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด.
37:28
But in palace, the ping-pong table would be in the same room.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ถ์ „์—์„œ๋Š” ํƒ๊ตฌ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:31
Vanessa: So ping-pong, foosball, pool.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ํƒ๊ตฌ, ์ฃผ์ตœ, ๋‹น๊ตฌ.
37:32
Dan: Other games too, chess, yeah.
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Dan: ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒŒ์ž„๋„์š”, ์ฒด์Šค, ๋„ค.
37:34
Vanessa: Oh, board game cabinets.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋ณด๋“œ ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์บ๋น„๋‹›.
37:35
Dan: There would be all kinds of games.
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Dan: ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:37
There'd be a TV with video games, it'd just be fun everywhere.
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๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ์žˆ๋Š” TV๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์–ด๋””์—์„œ๋‚˜ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:41
Vanessa: Okay, so you want a whole big room?
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ํฐ ๋ฐฉ์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
37:43
Dan: And then I'd have to lock it up so I didn't go in, because I'd spend all my time
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ๋ฌธ์„ ์ž ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
37:46
in there.
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.
37:47
Vanessa: Okay, so you'd have to request the key from one of the people?
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์—๊ฒŒ ์—ด์‡ ๋ฅผ ์š”์ฒญํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
37:51
Dan: You.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ˆ.
37:52
Vanessa: From me?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€?
37:53
Okay.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
37:54
Dan: "Gate keeper, let me in the game room."
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๋Œ„: "๋ฌธ์ง€๊ธฐ๋‹˜, ์˜ค๋ฝ์‹ค์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”."
37:55
Vanessa: I'm sorry to say, but in my dream home-
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Vanessa: ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง‘์€-
37:57
Dan: There's no game room?
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Dan: ๊ฒŒ์ž„๋ฃธ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ ?
37:59
Vanessa: ... there is not a game room, although it's a fun idea.
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Vanessa: ... ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ค๋ฝ์‹ค์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
38:02
It's a good idea.
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์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด์•ผ.
38:03
Dan: Save that for the vacation home?
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Dan: ๋ณ„์žฅ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ €์žฅํ•ด ๋‘์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
38:05
Vanessa: Yeah, that's good if your grandparents rent a house for a week and invite all the
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ์ง‘์„ ์„ธ๋‚ด์‹œ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“ 
38:10
family.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:11
Dan: Yes, it was perfect for that.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋”ฑ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
38:12
Vanessa: That's a good thing to have, but maybe not in my forever house.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์€๋ฐ, ๋‚ด ์˜์›ํ•œ ์ง‘์—๋Š” ์—†์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ.
38:15
Dan: Okay, what's your forever dream home look like?
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Dan: ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์›ํ•œ ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง‘์€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชจ์Šต์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
38:18
Vanessa: Well, I did say I'd like a main room with a big window.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ํฐ ์ฐฝ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์•ˆ๋ฐฉ์„ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š” .
38:21
I think that would be really great.
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์ •๋ง ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
38:22
So we have some- Dan: But what's your ideal view?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€- Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
38:24
Vanessa: I didn't really say.
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด. ๊ผญ
38:26
I feel like it doesn't have to be the beach, maybe not someone else's house right there,
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ํ•ด๋ณ€์ผ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ง‘์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„
38:33
but it could be the mountains, that would be nice.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฐ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
38:34
Dan: Sure.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
38:35
Vanessa: But I also like- Dan: Any kind of picturesque view.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚œ ๋˜ํ•œ- Dan: ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ’๊ฒฝ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด.
38:37
Vanessa: ... I don't like to be isolated, so if you have a beautiful mountain view,
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Vanessa: ... ์ €๋Š” ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์‚ฐ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
38:42
that means you probably live in the middle of the mountains away from everybody.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ์‚ฐ ํ•œ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
38:45
Dan: It's true.
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๋Œ„: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์•ผ.
38:46
Vanessa: So I don't mind if the view's not perfect, but I'd just like to have a big window
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „๋ง์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋น›์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š” ํฐ ์ฐฝ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด
38:50
with lots of light, that'd be really great.
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์ •๋ง ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
38:52
The other thing that I said is a little more practical, and that is a huge studio room
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์‹ค์šฉ์ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
38:59
with different walls that I can film on.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฒฝ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค ๋ฃธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:02
Dan: Very practical for the Fearless Fluency Club.
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Dan: Fearless Fluency Club์— ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ค์šฉ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
39:05
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
39:06
Dan: Oh, wait, and for YouTube.
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Dan: ์•„, ์ž ๊น, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  YouTube.
39:07
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
39:08
So for, of course, the fearless fluency club, and also for YouTube, having different locations
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‘๋ ค์›€ ์—†๋Š” ์œ ์ฐฝํ•œ ๋™์•„๋ฆฌ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ  ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ๋„
39:12
where I can easily film.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋‹ค.
39:14
And the room where we often film videos, in here, it's okay.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ž์ฃผ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:19
It's not super small, but I have an image of-
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์ดˆ์†Œํ˜•์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋Š”-
39:22
Dan: It's pretty small.
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๋Œ„: ๊ฝค ์ž‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:23
Vanessa: ... four different walls with different backgrounds and different things that I can
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Vanessa: ... ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” 4๊ฐœ์˜ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฒฝ์—
39:27
move lights and easily have different locations to film, I think that would be really cool.
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์กฐ๋ช…์„ ์˜ฎ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ดฌ์˜ํ•  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ง€์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
39:33
So I'm starting out small, we have this room, and then maybe someday in my dream home.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ž‘๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ ์ด ๋ฐฉ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฟˆ์— ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋˜ ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:37
Dan: Yeah, this is way better than our other house.
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๋Œ„: ์‘, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง‘๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„ .
39:39
Vanessa: Oh, yeah, where we used to live in the apartment.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๋˜ ์•„ํŒŒํŠธ์—์„œ.
39:41
Dan: She used to film in a closet.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋ฒฝ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
39:42
Vanessa: It wasn't a closet, but it was really small.
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Vanessa: ์˜ท์žฅ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ์ž‘์•˜์–ด์š”.
39:46
Dan: Two closets combined.
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๋Œ„: ์˜ท์žฅ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ์ณ์„œ.
39:47
Vanessa: Yeah, it was like a little triangle room.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ž‘์€ ์‚ผ๊ฐํ˜• ๋ฐฉ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š” .
39:49
Dan: It was very small.
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๋Œ„: ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์•˜์–ด์š”.
39:50
Vanessa: But- Dan: Hey, we made it work.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ- Dan: ์ด๋ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ์–ด.
39:51
Vanessa: Yeah, it worked.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
39:52
We made it work.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:53
And the other feature that I would like is, in a dream home, is a roof deck.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์€ ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์˜ฅ์ƒ ๋ฐํฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:59
Dan: That's cool.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”.
40:00
Vanessa: Yeah, so some stairs, and then a little roof-
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ณ„๋‹จ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ง€๋ถ•์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:02
Dan: This is the adventurer in Vanessa speaking.
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Dan: Vanessa์—์„œ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจํ—˜๊ฐ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:04
Vanessa: ... on the top so you can look down everywhere.
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Vanessa: ...์œ„์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋‹ค๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:06
Dan: But that's in my house, too.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์–ด.
40:07
Vanessa: Oh, it's in your house?
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Vanessa: ์•„, ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”?
40:08
Oh, good.
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์˜ค ์ข‹๋„ค.
40:09
Maybe we can have a house together.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง‘์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:11
And also at night you could lay up there and see the stars.
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๋˜ํ•œ ๋ฐค์—๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ˆ„์›Œ ๋ณ„์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:14
I think that would be really cool- Dan: Yeah, that would be neat.
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋Œ„: ์˜ˆ, ๊น”๋”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
40:16
Vanessa: ... so you could have a perfect place to stargaze.
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Vanessa: ... ๋ณ„์„ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์— ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์ฃ  .
40:17
Dan: I don't know why more houses don't have this.
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Dan: ์™œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ง‘์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์€์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
40:19
Vanessa: Yeah, we should put a deck on top of our house.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘ ์œ„์— ๋ฐํฌ๋ฅผ ์ณ์•ผ๊ฒ ์–ด .
40:21
Dan: Yeah, why not?
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๋Œ„: ์‘, ์™œ ์•ˆ ๋ผ?
40:22
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
40:23
Dan: Maybe some architect out there has a reason.
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Dan: ์•„๋งˆ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฑด์ถ•๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:24
"Well, actually it's bad for structural integrity."
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"๊ธ€์Ž„, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์  ๋ฌด๊ฒฐ์„ฑ์— ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
40:27
Vanessa: I think that people just don't value stargazing like we do.
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Vanessa: ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณ„ ๊ด€์ฐฐ์— ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‘์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
40:31
Dan: Maybe.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋งˆ๋„.
40:32
Vanessa: It's really cool to see the stars at night, and especially if you're... if you
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Vanessa: ๋ฐค์— ๋ณ„์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ ธ์š” . ํŠนํžˆ ๋งŒ์•ฝ...
40:36
just have a perfect view from a rooftop deck.
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์˜ฅ์ƒ ๋ฐํฌ์—์„œ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์ „๋ง์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
40:39
Dan: You're perched in a high place.
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋†’์€ ๊ณณ์— ์ž๋ฆฌ ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:42
Vanessa: Yeah, that'd be really cool.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
40:44
Well, it was nice to dream.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์•˜๋‹ค.
40:45
Thanks for dreaming with me.
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๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊พธ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:46
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
40:47
Oh, dream's over.
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์˜ค, ๊ฟˆ์€ ๋๋‚ฌ์–ด.
40:48
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง‘์„
40:49
I'm curious for you, if you could have your dream home, what features would you like in
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๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ง‘ ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
40:50
that home?
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?
40:51
All right, let's go to the next topic.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:53
The next topic is nature.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:54
Dan: Nature.
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๋Œ„: ์ž์—ฐ.
40:55
Vanessa: I want to know what are two cool facts about animals or nature?
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Vanessa: ๋™๋ฌผ์ด๋‚˜ ์ž์—ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:01
Dan: You want to know two facts?
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Dan: ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
41:02
Vanessa: Yeah, so we did a little bit of research before this, because we love watching animal
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ์ „์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:07
documentaries.
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.
41:08
Dan: Okay, well I have a story behind my first factoid.
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Dan: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋’ค์— ์ˆจ๊ฒจ์ง„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
41:10
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
41:11
Dan: One time I was talking to my mom, I don't remember how this came up, but we were talking
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๋Œ„: ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์€ ์—„๋งˆ์™€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋œ ์ผ์ธ์ง€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
41:19
about turtles.
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๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:20
And I don't know why we were talking about turtles, but she said, "Did you know that
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์™œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "
41:24
turtles breathe through their butts?"
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๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๊ฐ€ ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:27
My mom said this.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
41:28
And we, for days, we were like, "Mom, turtles... where did you hear that?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ "์—„๋งˆ, ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋“ค... ์–ด๋””์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด?
41:33
That is so- Vanessa: Were you a kid?
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ - Vanessa: ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ์˜€์–ด?
41:35
Dan: That was like, no, I was older.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฑด, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์•˜์–ด.
41:38
Vanessa: Okay.
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Vanessa: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
41:39
Dan: Probably a teenager, I guess.
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Dan: ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 10๋Œ€์ผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
41:40
Vanessa: Okay.
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:41
Dan: But we, me and my siblings, we all just made fun of her.
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ, ์ €, ์ œ ํ˜•์ œ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋†€
41:43
We were like, "Mom, you just made that up.
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๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
41:45
Where on Earth did you hear that?"
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๋Œ€์ฒด ์–ด๋””์„œ ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด?"
41:47
But really, it's actually true.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:51
A turtle can breathe through its butt.
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๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋Š” ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:53
Vanessa: What?
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Vanessa: ๋ญ?
41:54
Dan: It's true.
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Dan: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:55
Vanessa: Wait, why do they do this?
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Vanessa: ์ž ๊น, ์™œ ์ด๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
41:56
Dan: Okay, so it's when they're hibernating.
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Dan: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒจ์šธ์ž ์„ ์ž๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋“ค์€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
41:58
I looked it up to verify because I remember hearing that that actually was true.
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ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ์ฐพ์•„๋ดค์–ด์š”.
42:03
So in the winter, it gets really cold, obviously, and they live under water.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฒจ์šธ์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ถ”์›Œ์š”, ๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌผ์†์—์„œ ์ƒํ™œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:09
So it's like really cold, it's almost freezing, and they can't use their lungs.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ •๋ง ์ถ”์›Œ์š”. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:14
So they basically suck water up their butts, and the water gives them oxygen, therefore-
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋นจ์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์ด ์‚ฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ-
42:22
Vanessa: Oh, why?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์™œ์š”?
42:23
Dan: ... they breathe through their butts in the winter when they're hibernating.
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Dan: ... ๊ฒจ์šธ์— ๋™๋ฉดํ•  ๋•Œ ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ฌ์–ด์š” .
42:26
Vanessa: Wow, and your mom was right.
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Vanessa: ์™€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์˜ณ์•˜์–ด.
42:27
Dan: So my mom was right, but we just... we did not believe her when she said that.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์˜ณ์•˜์–ด, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ... ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด.
42:31
Vanessa: I mean, it's really bizarre, so why would you believe her?
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•ด. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์™œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ๊ฒ ์–ด? ?
42:33
Dan: Yeah.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ.
42:34
Also, it was very random of her.
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž„์˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:36
She was like, "Don't turtles breathe through their butts?"
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋Š” ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š” ?"๋ผ๊ณ 
42:38
Vanessa: And we were like, "Mom, you just made that up.
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๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” "์—„๋งˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
42:41
There's no way."
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๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
42:42
Dan: But it's true.
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:43
Vanessa: But it's true.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:44
Dan: So this is turtles who specifically live in the water?
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Dan: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๋ฌผ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
42:45
Not box turtles, or those types of things.
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์ƒ์ž ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:47
Vanessa: No.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
42:48
Yeah, turtles but not ocean turtles either.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๋ถ๋„์š”.
42:50
Dan: Okay, so just ones that live in fresh water-
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Dan: ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฏผ๋ฌผ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์š”-
42:53
Vanessa: Yes.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค
42:54
Dan: ... and live in the water?
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Dan: ...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์— ์‚ด์ฃ ?
42:55
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
42:56
Dan: This is a very... yeah, tell your friends.
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Dan: ์ด๊ฑด ์•„์ฃผ... ๋„ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค
42:57
Vanessa: Oh.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค.
42:58
Dan: Turtles breathe through their butts.
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Dan: ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋Š” ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ฌ์–ด์š”
42:59
Vanessa: Before you get to your second fact, I'm going to share one of mine-
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Vanessa: ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”-
43:02
Dan: Okay.
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Dan: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
43:03
Vanessa: ... which is amazing about butterflies and caterpillars.
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Vanessa: ... ๋‚˜๋น„์™€ ์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
43:07
We recently- Dan: We're like a nature documentary now.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ์—- ๋Œ„: ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
43:09
Vanessa: Well, I included this because- Dan: Should we talk like David Attenborough?
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ํฌํ•จ์‹œํ‚จ ์ด์œ ๋Š”- Dan: David Attenborough์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
43:12
Vanessa: I feel really nerdy about animals.
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Vanessa: ์ €๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ๊ดด์งœ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
43:14
Dan: "The beautiful butterflies."
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Dan: "์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋‚˜๋น„."
43:15
Vanessa: Yeah, if you've ever seen nature documentaries by BBC, David Attenborough is
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, BBC์˜ ์ž์—ฐ ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด David Attenborough๋Š”
43:20
one of the main commentators.
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์ฃผ์š” ํ•ด์„ค์ž ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:22
He's been a staple of nature documentaries for over a decade, two decades, three decades
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, 30๋…„
43:28
maybe, the '70s.
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, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 70๋…„๋Œ€.
43:29
So we are big fans of him and his work, but I included this topic because we're nerdy
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์™€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์˜ ์—ด๋ ฌํ•œ ํŒฌ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
43:34
about animals and nature, and like that stuff, and I thought it would be fun to talk about.
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๋™๋ฌผ๊ณผ ์ž์—ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ดด์งœ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จ์‹œ์ผฐ๊ณ , ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:38
Dan: Sure.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
43:39
Vanessa: Well, a couple months ago, we found four monarch butterfly caterpillars in our
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ์ „์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋’ท๋งˆ๋‹น์—์„œ ์ œ์™•๋‚˜๋น„ ์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ ๋„ค ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
43:45
backyard.
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.
43:47
And they didn't look so good, they looked like they needed a little bit of help, so
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๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ  ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
43:50
we gave them some milkweed leaves, which is what monarch butterflies eat, or monarch caterpillars
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ œ์™•๋‚˜๋น„๋‚˜ ์ œ์™•๋‚˜๋น„๊ฐ€
43:58
eat, and we put them in this... we have a butterfly net, it's like a little container
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๋จน๋Š” ์œ ์•ก ์žŽ์„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋น„ ๊ทธ๋ฌผ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด
44:03
where you can grow butterflies.
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๋‚˜๋น„๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์ปจํ…Œ์ด๋„ˆ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:06
Dan: Grow and release.
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๋Œ„: ํ‚ค์šฐ๊ณ  ํ’€์–ด์ค˜.
44:07
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
44:08
And so we put the caterpillars in there, gave them a lot of leaves, and they turned into
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์žŽ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ณ ์น˜๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
44:13
cocoons.
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.
44:15
Then two of them died, but two of them became butterflies, it was really amazing, so that
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‘ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์‹ ๊ธฐํ•ด์„œ
44:20
kind of sparked my interest in learning more about that.
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๋” ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์–ด์š” .
44:23
We kind of all know caterpillars become butterflies, but did you know that a caterpillar, when
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€
44:29
it creates a cocoon, it will liquefy it's body.
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๊ณ ์น˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๋•Œ ๋ชธ์„ ์•กํ™”์‹œํ‚จ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋งˆ์น˜
44:33
It's like a soup inside the cocoon, and it is digesting, it's eating itself inside the
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๊ณ ์น˜ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜ํ”„์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ๊ณ ์น˜ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณ 
44:40
cocoon, and its DNA just kind of mixes around and becomes a butterfly.
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DNA๊ฐ€ ์„ž์ด๋ฉด์„œ ๋‚˜๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:44
Dan: Yeah, so it's not like wrapping a blanket around itself.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๋‹ด์š”๋ฅผ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
44:48
Vanessa: No.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
44:49
Dan: Because- Vanessa: It's crazy.
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Dan: ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด- Vanessa: ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด์š”.
44:50
Dan: ... usually when I thought of a cocoon, you would think that the caterpillar spins
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Dan: ...๋ณดํ†ต ๊ณ ์น˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€
44:55
something around itself, but no, it's literally liquefying its body on the inside, and then
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ฃผ์œ„๋กœ ๋Œ๋ฆฐ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋ชธ์„ ์•กํ™”์‹œํ‚จ ๋‹ค์Œ
45:01
turning into, I believe the technical term is a pupa.
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, ์ „๋ฌธ ์šฉ์–ด ๋กœ ๋ฒˆ๋ฐ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:05
Vanessa: A pupa.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฒˆ๋ฐ๊ธฐ.
45:06
Yeah, so inside when it actually makes that cocoon, so we saw this happen, where the cocoon
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์˜ˆ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณ ์น˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๋•Œ ๋‚ด๋ถ€์—์„œ , ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ์น˜๊ฐ€
45:14
pops out of the caterpillars body, and the skin and the head pop off, and they fall onto
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์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ ๋ชธ์—์„œ ํŠ€์–ด๋‚˜์˜ค๊ณ  ํ”ผ๋ถ€์™€ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ๋‚˜์™€ ๋•…์— ๋–จ์–ด์ง€๋Š”
45:20
the ground because- Dan: It's kind of like a Halloween story.
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์ด์œ ๋Š”- Dan: ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ• ๋กœ์œˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ.
45:22
Vanessa: It is.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:23
It's pretty horrific, if you think about it.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ๋”์ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:24
Dan: It was almost Halloween.
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๋Œ„: ๊ฑฐ์˜ ํ• ๋กœ์œˆ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
45:25
Vanessa: And inside the cocoon is the liquefied soup of the butterfly.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ ์น˜ ์•ˆ์—๋Š” ๋‚˜๋น„์˜ ์•ก์ƒ ์ˆ˜ํ”„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:31
Dan: And it's body liquefied and it turned into a terrible creature.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชธ์ด ์•กํ™”๋˜์–ด ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์ƒ๋ฌผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:34
Vanessa: How did nature- Dan: A butterfly.
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Vanessa: ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ž์—ฐ์ด- Dan: ๋‚˜๋น„.
45:36
Vanessa: ... think that this would work?
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Vanessa: ... ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋จนํž ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„?
45:37
But it does, it's amazing.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:40
Wow.
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์šฐ์™€.
45:41
So, that's my first cool fact about nature.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž์—ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ €์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:43
Dan: Cool nature factoid.
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Dan: ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ž์—ฐ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:44
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
45:45
Caterpillar soup.
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์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ ์ˆ˜ํ”„.
45:46
Dan: All right.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
45:47
My second is about the noble albatross.
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ท€ํ•œ ์•Œ๋ฐ”ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:49
Vanessa: Albatross are so cool.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•Œ๋ฐ”ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ ธ์š”.
45:50
Dan: Although if you say something is an albatross, that kind of means it's a bad thing, or like
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ๋ฐ”ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ,
45:56
a burden.
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์ง ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์š”.
45:57
It's like a saying.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ง๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:58
Vanessa: Ah, that's kind of like an old fashioned expression.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ข€ ๊ตฌ์‹ ํ‘œํ˜„ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
46:01
But- Dan: Yeah.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ- ๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
46:02
But anyways, my factoid is- Vanessa: ... it is a bird.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์ œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€- Vanessa: ... ์ƒˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:04
Dan: ... an albatross has the longest wingspan of any bird.
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Dan: ...์•Œ๋ฐ”ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค๋Š” ์ƒˆ ์ค‘์—์„œ ๋‚ ๊ฐœ ๊ธธ์ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
46:08
Did you know that?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
46:09
Almost 12 feet long, or 3.2 meters.
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๊ธธ์ด๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ 12ํ”ผํŠธ, ์ฆ‰ 3.2๋ฏธํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:12
Vanessa: Three meters?
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Vanessa: 3๋ฏธํ„ฐ์š”?
46:13
Dan: Something like that.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ.
46:14
Vanessa: Three meters is so long, so that means from the tip of one wing to the tip
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Vanessa: 3๋ฏธํ„ฐ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ธธ์–ด ํ•œ์ชฝ ๋‚ ๊ฐœ ๋์—์„œ
46:19
of the other wing is three meters, 12 feet.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ชฝ ๋‚ ๊ฐœ ๋๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” 3๋ฏธํ„ฐ, 12ํ”ผํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:22
Dan: Yeah, it's a really huge bird.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:24
Vanessa: One bird.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ƒˆ ํ•œ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ.
46:25
Dan: And actually, if you've watched any David Attenborough documentaries-
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ David Attenborough ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด-
46:28
Vanessa: Or others.
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Vanessa: ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ.
46:29
Dan: ... we watched one with the albatross, it needs to take a really long run before
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Dan: ... ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•จ๋ฒ„ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ปค์„œ ๋‚ ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ •๋ง ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:34
it flies, because its wings are so huge- Vanessa: Like a huge airplane, it needs a
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Vanessa: ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
46:38
lot of runway to get off.
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์ด๋ฅ™ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ํ™œ์ฃผ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:39
Dan: But there's a lot of other animals.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
46:41
What was it in the documentary that was trying to get them?
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๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
46:43
Vanessa: It was the babies.
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Vanessa: ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:44
Dan: Oh, sharks.
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค, ์ƒ์–ด.
46:45
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
46:46
Dan: Because they would crash in the water and the sharks would eat them.
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Dan: ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌผ์— ๋น ์ง€๊ณ  ์ƒ์–ด๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋จน์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:47
Vanessa: When the babies were first learning how to fly, a lot of them crash in the water,
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Vanessa: ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ , ๋งŽ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋ฌผ์— ๋ถ€๋”ชํžˆ๊ณ ,
46:52
and I think they do it the same time every year, so sharks gather there-
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๋งค๋…„ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” , ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ƒ์–ด๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๋ชจ์—ฌ๋“ค์–ด์š”-
46:57
Dan: They wait for the babies.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:58
Vanessa: ... and as the babies are learning to fly, if they fail on their first try, that's
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Vanessa: ...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‹œ๋„์—์„œ ์‹คํŒจํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
47:02
it.
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.
47:03
Dan: Yeah, they can't make it.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:04
Vanessa: Anyway, that was a really sad part of the documentary.
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Vanessa: ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ์Šฌํ”ˆ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š” .
47:06
Dan: But once they actually get in the air, an albatross can stay in the air for up to
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณต์ค‘์— ์˜ค๋ฅด๋ฉด ์•จ๋ฒ„ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค๋Š” ์ตœ๋Œ€
47:11
10,000 miles, which is a lot of kilometers.
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10,000๋งˆ์ผ, ์ฆ‰ ํ‚ฌ๋กœ๋ฏธํ„ฐ๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณต์ค‘์— ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:15
Vanessa: 6,000, 7,000 kilometers?
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Vanessa: 6,000, 7,000km?
47:17
Dan: Yeah, I'm not so good with those conversions that everybody else uses.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณ€ํ™˜์— ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
47:22
Vanessa: Yeah, and I remember you also told me that they could fly for-
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋น„ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:26
Dan: A day.
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Dan: ํ•˜๋ฃจ.
47:27
Vanessa: ... a whole day with just one [inaudible 00:47:30].
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Vanessa: ... ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ [๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Œ 00:47:30].
47:30
Dan: Just one flap of their wings.
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๋Œ„: ๋‚ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ ํŽ„๋Ÿญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:31
Vanessa: If they have the right wind, because they go off into the ocean.
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Vanessa: ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์ด ๋งž์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:34
Dan: Yeah, it requires good wind.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:35
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
47:36
Dan: Because they just use the wind to bounce up and down.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์œ„์•„๋ž˜๋กœ [ __ ] ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
47:37
Vanessa: So they only need to flap their wings one time per day, if there is good wind.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์ด ์ข‹์„ ๋•Œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ ๋‚ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ํŽ„๋Ÿญ์ด๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:41
Dan: It'd be a very lonely existence, just flying over the ocean.
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Dan: ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋‚ ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์™ธ๋กœ์šด ์กด์žฌ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:44
Vanessa: But talking about lonely, they also mate for life.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์™ธ๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ํ‰์ƒ ์ง์ง“๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:49
Dan: That's lonely?
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๋Œ„: ์™ธ๋กญ์ง€?
47:50
Vanessa: Well, no, that's crazy because they...
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ง“์ด์•ผ ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€...
47:54
most birds are not like that, so they go off alone into the ocean to hunt, and then once
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์ƒˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ ์‚ฌ๋ƒฅ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ˜ผ์ž ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ„ ๋‹ค์Œ 1๋…„์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ
48:01
a year they come back to the same place and they hope that their husband or wife, their
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๊ฐ™์€ ์žฅ์†Œ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™€์„œ ๋‚จํŽธ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ž์ธ
48:09
mate, has survived also.
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์•„๋‚ด๋„ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:10
Dan: And then they promptly cheat on them.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ฆ‰์‹œ ์†์ธ๋‹ค.
48:12
Vanessa: Well, they are not monogamous.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ผ๋ถ€์ผ์ฒ˜์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:14
Dan: They have partners that they regularly come back to, but then they also go and flirt
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๋Š” ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
48:20
with other birds.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒˆ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์„ ํ”ผ์šฐ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:21
Vanessa: Other birds as well, but they have the same main partner for their whole lives,
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Vanessa: ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒˆ๋“ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ง€๋งŒ ํ‰์ƒ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฃผ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ 
48:26
and they only see them once a year, but they find each other at that same... on the same
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์žˆ๊ณ  1๋…„์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ๊ฐ™์€
48:30
rock, on the same land, every... albatross are really cool.
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๋ฐ”์œ„์—์„œ, ๊ฐ™์€ ๋•…์—์„œ, ๋งค์ผ ...์•Œ๋ฐ”ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:34
Dan: [crosstalk 00:48:34] kisses.
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๋Œ„: [๋ˆ„ํ™” 00:48:34] ํ‚ค์Šค.
48:35
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
48:36
Yeah, you should look up some videos about albatross, they're really cool.
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์˜ˆ, ์•Œ๋ฐ”ํŠธ๋กœ์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:38
Well, one of my other cool facts- Dan: What's your last factoid?
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”- Dan: ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
48:42
Vanessa: ... my last cool fact is about a mantis shrimp.
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Vanessa: ... ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
48:45
Dan: The mantis shrimp.
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๋Œ„: ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ.
48:47
Vanessa: We think about shrimp as the thing that we eat, but the mantis shrimp is really
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒˆ์šฐ๋ฅผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ๋Š” ์ •๋ง
48:51
different.
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๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:52
I'll show you a picture here.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:53
The mantis shrimp is an insane animal.
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์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฏธ์นœ ๋™๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ๊ฐ„์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ
48:57
It has the best visual senses of any animal, including humans.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋™๋ฌผ ์ค‘ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ
49:04
I looked this up to make sure I could explain it correctly.
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์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ ํ•ด์„œ ์ฐพ์•„๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
49:06
Humans have three photoreceptors in our eyes.
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์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ˆˆ์—๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐœ์˜ ๊ด‘์ˆ˜์šฉ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:11
How many do you think the mantis shrimp have?
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์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์ผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‚˜์š”?
49:13
Dan: 10.
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Dan: 10.
49:15
Vanessa: 12 to 16.
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Vanessa: 12์—์„œ 16.
49:18
So this means they can see infrared, they can see ultraviolet, they can see every possible
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ ์™ธ์„ ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์™ธ์„ ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
49:23
thing that's coming through the light spectrum.
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๋น› ์ŠคํŽ™ํŠธ๋Ÿผ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:25
It is crazy.
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๋ฏธ์ณค๋‹ค.
49:26
Dan: Basically thank god it's not huge and lives on land, because it would kill us.
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Dan: ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์œก์ง€์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฃฝ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:31
Vanessa: Yes, this and it can also punch through, it has the-
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํŽ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‚ ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:35
Dan: Look how it's hand's like this.
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Dan: ์†์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ์ง€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
49:37
Vanessa: Yes, they're like this.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1cm ๋‘๊ป˜์˜
49:38
It can punch through bulletproof glass that is 1 centimeter thick.
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๋ฐฉํƒ„ ์œ ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๋šซ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค .
49:45
So it's almost impossible to keep a mantis shrimp in an aquarium because-
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๊ฐฏ๊ฐ€์žฌ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์กฑ๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด-
49:49
Dan: Because it will break the glass.
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๋Œ„: ์œ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊นจ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:50
Vanessa: ... they're so strong... it's just a shrimp, they're small, but it can punch
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Vanessa: ...๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ•ํ•ด...๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ƒˆ์šฐ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๊ณ , ์ž‘์ง€๋งŒ
49:54
through bullet proof glass, and most aquariums don't have bullet proof glass, it's less than
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๋ฐฉํƒ„ ์œ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋šซ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์ˆ˜์กฑ๊ด€์—๋Š” ๋ฐฉํƒ„ ์œ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:59
that.
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๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:00
Dan: Why not?
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๋Œ„: ์™œ ์•ˆ๋ผ?
50:01
Vanessa: But it will punch through the glass and get out, so they can see everything, and
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋šซ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
50:05
they also can punch through the glass, which is absolutely insane.
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์œ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋šซ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
50:08
There's a lot of really cool videos- Dan: And they look cool too.
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„ ๋ฉ‹์ ธ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:11
Vanessa: Yeah, colors, and their big eyes.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์ƒ‰์ƒ๊ณผ ํฐ ๋ˆˆ.
50:12
Dan: Yeah, beautiful.
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๋Œ„: ์˜ˆ, ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›Œ์š”.
50:13
You should share the comic about it too.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งŒํ™”๋„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:16
There's a popular comic in America called The Oatmeal.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ The Oatmeal์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ๋งŒํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
50:19
Vanessa: It's a website.
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Vanessa: ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:20
Dan: Yeah, it's a website.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:21
And they have a whole story about the mantis shrimp.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
50:24
Vanessa: Yeah, there's a good YouTube video too, about the mantis shrimp.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ข‹์€ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:28
Dan: About it?
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด?
50:29
Oh.
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์˜ค.
50:30
Vanessa: I think it's... who's that guy who does kind of funny stuff about animals who's
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Vanessa: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”...
50:32
like, "That's how the mantis shrimp do."
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"๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด์•ผ."
50:33
Dan: Oh, zefrank.
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค, ์ œํ”„๋žญํฌ.
50:34
Vanessa: Zefrank, yes.
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Vanessa: Zefrank, ๋„ค.
50:35
Dan: Look up zefrank for a good laugh.
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Dan: ์ข‹์€ ์›ƒ์Œ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด zefrank๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
50:37
Vanessa: Just look up mantis shrimp on YouTube, you'll find many great things because those
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Vanessa: YouTube์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€ ์ƒˆ์šฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:42
animals are cool.
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.
50:43
All right, we had a chance to be nerdy, let's go on to the next topic, and I want to know
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์ž, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ดด์งœ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:47
for you, do you know any cool animal facts?
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋™๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
50:49
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
50:50
Vanessa: All right, let's go to the next topic.
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:52
The next topic is holidays.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ํœด์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:55
And it is the end of November-ish, which is Thanksgiving time in the U.S., so I want to
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์ธ 11์›”์˜ ๋์ž๋ฝ์ธ๋ฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜
51:00
know, in your experience, what is Thanksgiving like in the U.S.?
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์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์€ ์–ด๋–จ์ง€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ƒ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:04
Dan: In the U.S., well it's pretty much just an American holiday, right?
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Dan: ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๋ช…์ ˆ์ด์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
51:07
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
51:08
Dan: Or Canadian, I suppose.
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Dan: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค์ธ์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:09
Vanessa: Canada also has Thanksgiving.
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Vanessa: ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค์—๋„ ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:11
Dan: So for Thanksgiving, the primary thing that we do is eat food.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์Œ์‹์„ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:15
Vanessa: Okay, next topic.
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:16
Dan: The end.
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๋Œ„: ๋.
51:17
Vanessa: Oh, yeah, it's pretty much all about food.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์˜ˆ, ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์Œ์‹์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:19
Dan: It's really all about the food, especially turkey.
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Dan: ์ •๋ง ์Œ์‹, ํŠนํžˆ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
51:22
Vanessa: So tell us about food on Thanksgiving.
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Vanessa: ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ ์Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
51:26
Dan: Pretty much everybody gets a turkey.
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Dan: ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:28
Vanessa: A big, full turkey.
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Vanessa: ํฌ๊ณ  ํ†ตํ†ตํ•œ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ.
51:29
Dan: Yeah, there must be this huge spike in turkey sales in November in the U.S.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ 11์›”์— ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ํŒ๋งค๊ฐ€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๊ธ‰์ฆํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ‹€๋ฆผ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:34
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์˜ˆ.
51:35
Dan: But everybody gets a turkey, you cook the whole turkey, and you get gravy, and you
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๊ณ , ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋น„๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ 
51:38
pour it on there, and there's something called stuffing as well, which is this bread pudding
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, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ถ“๊ณ , ์Šคํ„ฐํ•‘์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋นต ํ‘ธ๋”ฉ
51:44
kind of thing, I guess.
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๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
51:45
Vanessa: Yeah, well, you have it inside the turkey, usually you cook some seasonings,
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์Œ, ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ์•ˆ์— ๋„ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ณดํ†ต ์–‘๋…,
51:49
and lemons, and breads, and all different types of things inside the turkey.
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๋ ˆ๋ชฌ, ๋นต, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:54
Dan: Some may argue that the stuffing is better than the turkey.
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๋Œ„: ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋‚ซ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ฃผ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
51:57
Vanessa: Yeah, sometimes it is.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:58
Dan: I'm one of those people- Vanessa: Stuff is great.
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Dan: ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:00
Dan: ... I just eat the stuffing.
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๋Œ„: ... ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:01
Vanessa: It's really full of turkey juices, so it's kind of like a breaded mixture, I'll
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Vanessa: ์ •๋ง ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ์ฃผ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋“ํ•ด์„œ ๋นต๊ฐ€๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ์ž…ํžŒ ํ˜ผํ•ฉ๋ฌผ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
52:06
try to share a picture, but stuffing, turkey.
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์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ๋ณผ๊ฒŒ์š”.
52:07
Dan: So the holiday is really just centered around the meal, and then you invite lots
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ช…์ ˆ์€ ์ •๋ง ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€
52:13
of family over.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:14
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
52:15
Dan: And usually one family member will host a lot of family, I find.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณดํ†ต ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์›์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
52:19
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
52:20
Dan: And sometimes friends as well, but like your dad has been doing friends for the last
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋„ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋„ค ์•„๋น ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€์—ˆ์–ด
52:24
few years.
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.
52:25
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
52:26
Dan: But traditionally, it's only family.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์–ด์š”.
52:27
Vanessa: Yeah, I think this is definitely more a family holiday, that you say goodbye
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ํœด๊ฐ€๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ํœด๊ฐ€์— ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์นœ๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ž‘๋ณ„ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ 
52:31
to your friends, go back home wherever you came from, if you live far away from your
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์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๊ณผ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์‚ด๋ฉด
52:35
parents, maybe you'll go back home and have Thanksgiving at their home, or maybe they'll
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ง‘ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ง‘, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
52:39
come visit you.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ”์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ ๋™์•ˆ
52:40
It's kind of a time for families to come back together during Thanksgiving.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
52:44
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
52:45
And if you are a very bonded family, then you always say what you're thankful for.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฐ์†๋œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:50
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
52:51
Dan: So every year my family would always say something they're thankful for around
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งค๋…„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์‹ํƒ์— ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์•‰์•„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
52:55
the table.
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.
52:56
And usually when I was a kid I remember being like-
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณดํ†ต ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‚˜๋Š”
53:00
Vanessa: "I don't want to do this."
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Vanessa : "๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„."
53:01
Dan: "I don't want..." but now I'm like, "I'm thankful for everybody and everything in my
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๋Œ„: "์‹ซ์–ด..." ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ "๊ฐ€์กฑ ๋ชจ๋‘์™€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ด
53:04
family.
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.
53:05
It's so beautiful."
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›Œ." ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฉด
53:06
Get a little more sentimental when you get older.
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์ข€ ๋” ๊ฐ์„ฑ์ ์ด ๋˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค .
53:09
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
53:10
Well, back to the food, we're kind of talking about the traditions now, but back to the
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์Œ, ์Œ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์ „ํ†ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
53:15
food, the typical things are a big turkey bird, a full bird, you don't have just slices
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์Œ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ, ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ์ƒˆ, ํ†ตํ†ตํ•œ ์ƒˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ์กฐ๊ฐ๋งŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
53:20
of turkey, you have the full bird and then you cut it up.
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์ „์ฒด ์ƒˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž˜๋ผ.
53:23
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
53:24
Vanessa: And then stuffing, green beans is common with gravy, mashed potatoes, sweet
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šคํ„ฐํ•‘, ๋…น๋‘๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋น„, ์œผ๊นฌ ๊ฐ์ž, ๊ณ ๊ตฌ๋งˆ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:28
potatoes, in the south of the U.S., sweet potato casserole is really big.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚จ๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ตฌ๋งˆ ์บ์„œ๋กค์ด ์ •๋ง ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:33
This is insane- Dan: With brown sugar on it.
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์ด๊ฑด ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด- ๋Œ„: ํ‘์„คํƒ•์„ ์–น์–ด.
53:35
Vanessa: ... it's insanely sweet because it's sweet potatoes, which are orange and already
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ค๋ Œ์ง€์ƒ‰์ด๊ณ  ์ด๋ฏธ
53:40
pretty sweet naturally, then brown sugar, and then-
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์ž์—ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฝค ๋‹ฌ์ฝคํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ตฌ๋งˆ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฏธ์นœ๋“ฏ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋‹ค.
53:44
Dan: Marshmallows, right?
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53:45
Vanessa: ... marshmallows, for dinner.
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Vanessa: ... ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ฉœ๋กœ, ์ €๋…์œผ๋กœ.
53:46
Dan: Oh, I forgot about that.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊นœ๋นกํ–ˆ๋„ค์š”.
53:48
Vanessa: Crazy, but- Dan: I always eat like this much of that because
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Vanessa: ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ- Dan: ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‹ฌ์•„์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์–ด
53:51
it's too sweet.
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.
53:52
Vanessa: It's really rich, but that's kind of a southern thing, and you also always have
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Vanessa: ์ •๋ง ํ’๋ถ€ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋‚จ๋ถ€ ์Œ์‹์ด๊ณ  ํ•ญ์ƒ ํฌ๋žœ๋ฒ ๋ฆฌ โ€‹โ€‹์†Œ์Šค๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
53:56
cranberry sauce.
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.
53:57
Dan: Right.
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๋Œ„: ๋งž์•„์š”.
53:58
Vanessa: This is... a cranberry is a really tart berry, it's so tart, it's really sour,
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Vanessa: ์ด๊ฑด... ํฌ๋žœ๋ฒ ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์‹ ๋ž„ํ•œ ๋ฒ ๋ฆฌ์•ผ, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‹œํผํ•ด, ์ •๋ง ์‹ ๋ง›์ด ๋‚˜์ง€๋งŒ
54:05
but when you mix it with a lot of sugar, it's great.
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, ์„คํƒ•์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์„ž์œผ๋ฉด ๊ต‰์žฅํ•ด.
54:07
Dan: And you need mashed potatoes.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์œผ๊นฌ ๊ฐ์ž๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:08
Vanessa: Yeah, so the cranberries, and the mashed potatoes, and the turkey, it's a perfect
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํฌ๋žœ๋ฒ ๋ฆฌ์™€ ์œผ๊นฌ ๊ฐ์ž์™€ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋Š” ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ
54:13
combination.
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์กฐํ•ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ๋“ค์ธ
54:14
That kind of tart flavors with the mashed potatoes with the turkey, it kind of mixes
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์œผ๊นฌ ๊ฐ์ž์™€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‹œํผํ•œ ๋ง›์ด
54:18
together really great.
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์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:19
Dan: Yeah, basically the point is to eat so much you can barely move at the end of the
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์š”์ ์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚  ๋•Œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์›€์ง์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
54:23
day.
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.
54:24
Vanessa: Well, they do say that turkey, the bird, the turkey meat, has some kind of-
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ, ์ƒˆ, ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ์— ์ผ์ข…์˜-
54:29
Dan: Tryptophan.
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Dan: ํŠธ๋ฆฝํ† ํŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:30
Vanessa: Is that what it's called?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
54:31
Dan: I think so.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
54:32
Vanessa: That kind of enzyme in it.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํšจ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
54:34
Isn't it enzyme?
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ํšจ์†Œ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€์š”?
54:35
Hormone, or- Dan: Chemical?
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ํ˜ธ๋ฅด๋ชฌ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด- ๋Œ„: ํ™”ํ•™์ ?
54:36
Vanessa: It has something in the meat naturally that makes you feel sleepy, so at Thanksgiving
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Vanessa: ๊ณ ๊ธฐ์— ์ž์—ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์กธ์Œ์ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์—๋Š” ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋จน๋Š”
54:41
that's really one of the only times when we eat turkey, so because we eat so much turkey,
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์œ ์ผํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:46
it's kind of stereotypical to say after the Thanksgiving meal everyone crashes on the
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54:52
couch and watches football.
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์†ŒํŒŒ์— ์•‰์•„ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:54
So it's kind of a tradition.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ „ํ†ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:57
Dan: Yeah, football is probably the most American aspect of this.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:00
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
55:01
Dan: They don't really play football in other countries, do they?
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
55:02
Vanessa: Well, this is American football.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ์‹์ถ•๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:03
Dan: I mean, not... yeah, not- Vanessa: American football.
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Dan: ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์•„๋‹ˆ... ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์•„๋‹ˆ- Vanessa: ๋ฏธ์‹์ถ•๊ตฌ.
55:05
Dan: ... real football, like you know, not kicking the ball.
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Dan: ...์ง„์งœ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋Š” ์•„์‹œ ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ณต์„ ์ฐจ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:07
Vanessa: Soccer.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ถ•๊ตฌ.
55:08
Dan: Football like, we throw the ball, and we tackle each other, and stuff.
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Dan: ์ถ•๊ตฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณต์„ ๋˜์ง€๊ณ , ์„œ๋กœ ํƒœํด์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ.
55:11
Vanessa: Yeah, so there are... there's always a football, an American football game on Thanksgiving,
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ... ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์—๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ถ•๊ตฌ, ๋ฏธ์‹์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:16
so that's why some of the sayings abut Thanksgiving is the three Fs, family, food, football.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์†๋‹ด ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ F, ๊ฐ€์กฑ, ์Œ์‹, ์ถ•๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:23
When I was growing up, my family would eat Thanksgiving, and then we often would go to
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ž„ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€ ์ถ”์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์„ ๋จน๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
55:29
the living room and watch football together, even though we weren't big football fans.
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์—ด๋ ฌํ•œ ์ถ•๊ตฌ ํŒฌ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ข…์ข… ๊ฑฐ์‹ค์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:34
It's kind of just- Dan: It's just tradition.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋‹จ์ง€- Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ „ํ†ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:35
Vanessa: ... what you do.
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Vanessa: ... ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ.
55:36
So we would say what we were thankful for, and then-
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ-
55:40
Dan: It's the American religion.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ข…๊ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:41
Vanessa: ... watch football, and that was just kind of a family time together.
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Vanessa: ... ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:44
I don't know.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:45
Did you guys ever do anything?
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๋„ˆํฌ๋“ค์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
55:46
Sometimes we threw a football in backyard.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋’ท๋งˆ๋‹น์—์„œ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๊ณต์„ ๋˜์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:48
Dan: Yeah, a few years we would throw the football.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋˜์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
55:50
Our family didn't watch that much football.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:52
Vanessa: Yeah- Dan: We would sometimes, just like the Superbowl,
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ- Dan: ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ Superbowl์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
55:55
that's all.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:56
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
55:57
Yeah, so I'm curious, for you, in your country, do you have any fall meal holiday that's really
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์Œ์‹ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์„ ์‹์‚ฌ ๋ช…์ ˆ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”
56:04
centered around food?
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?
56:05
Dan: Yeah, we should also say, I think it's supposed to also traditionally be you feast
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์ด
56:10
on all the food that you grew.
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๊ธฐ๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์Œ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ž”์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ฒŒ์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:12
Vanessa: Yeah, but most people are not farmers nowadays.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์š”์ฆ˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋†๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
56:14
Dan: Yeah, but I think traditionally it does have that element of, "The harvest is in.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ "์ˆ˜ํ™•์ด ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:19
We come and eat all this delicious food.
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๋ง›์žˆ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋จน์œผ๋Ÿฌ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:21
It was a good year."
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์ข‹์€ ํ•œ ํ•ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๋Š” ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:22
Vanessa: "We're thankful for the good harvest."
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Vanessa: "์ข‹์€ ์ˆ˜ํ™•์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
56:23
Dan: "We're thankful for the good harvest."
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๋Œ„: "ํ’์ž‘์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
56:24
So maybe a lot of countries have something like that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
56:27
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
56:28
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
56:29
Let's go to the next topic.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:30
The next topic is relaxation.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ํœด์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:33
I want to know, if I were feeling stressed, what tips would you give me to help me feel
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์–ด๋–ค ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•ด์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:39
relaxed?
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56:40
Dan: If you were feeling stressed?
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๋Œ„: ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด?
56:41
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
56:42
Dan: Well, I don't know if this would work for everyone, but I find that playing a sport,
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ํ†ตํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
56:48
or doing something active that requires some concentration, really helps me not be stressed,
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ง‘์ค‘์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ํ™œ๋™์ ์ธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:55
like if I'm concerned about something I like to go and maybe play some basketball, where
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๊ฐ€์„œ ๋†๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:01
your only goal is to put the ball in the hoop, it's just something very simple and you're
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์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ๊ณต์„ ํ›„ํ”„์— ๋„ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์ผ์ด๊ณ 
57:06
using your body, which is different from how a lot of people live today, which is very
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๋ชธ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ
57:12
stationary and thinking about all kinds of problems and then looking at your phone and
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๊ณ ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ํœด๋Œ€ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ 
57:17
reading about more problems.
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:19
Everything's a big problem it seems like.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:22
Vanessa: So if you get out and move your body- Dan: So if you get out and you move your body-
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ชธ์„ ์›€์ง์ด๋ฉด- Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ชธ์„ ์›€์ง์ด๋ฉด-
57:26
Vanessa: ... in the real world, yeah.
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Vanessa: ... ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
57:27
Dan: Yeah, and it could just be a hike, a hike or something.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ดํ‚น, ํ•˜์ดํ‚น ๋“ฑ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
57:29
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
57:30
Dan: But yeah, I like to go and play basketball, or maybe play some hockey, I like to do that
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋†๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:34
too, just shoot the puck around, it's a lot of fun.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:36
Vanessa: Some kind of organized activity.
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Vanessa: ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ธ ํ™œ๋™์ด์ฃ .
57:38
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
57:39
Vanessa: Like shooting hoops, playing hockey- Dan: And it doesn't even have to be with people,
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Vanessa: ํ›„ํ”„ ๋˜์ง€๊ธฐ, ํ•˜ํ‚ค ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ- Dan: ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
57:43
just practicing, doing some kind of routine like that.
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.
57:45
Vanessa: I said something similar, which was just to go for a walk, because that's not
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Vanessa: ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜€์–ด์š” ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฑด
57:50
necessarily organized, but sometimes getting out of the place where I'm at, getting out
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๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์ •๋ฆฌ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ ,
57:55
of the house, getting out of wherever I'm feeling stressed, just changing locations,
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์ง‘ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ , ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ  , ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ 
58:00
and having the open sky- Dan: Just getting outside.
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ํƒ ํŠธ์ธ ํ•˜๋Š˜- Dan: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:02
Vanessa: ... breathing some cool air, or maybe really hot air, depending on what time of
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Vanessa: ... ์—ฐ์ค‘ ์–ด๋Š ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์‹œ์›ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ๊ณต๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
58:06
the year it is.
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.
58:07
Dan: That's true, it depends on where you live.
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Dan: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ์ฃผ์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
58:09
Outside might be a little too hot, or too cold.
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๋ฐ–์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฅ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ถ”์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:11
Vanessa: But it's just nice to kind of remove yourself, and move, and take a walk.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ชธ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜ ์›€์ง์ด๊ณ  ์‚ฐ์ฑ…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:15
Even say, "Okay, I'm going to walk for five minutes, and I'm going to turn around and
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"์ข‹์•„์š”, 5๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฑธ์„ ๊ฑฐ์—์š” . ๋Œ์•„์„œ์„œ
58:19
walk five minutes back."
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5๋ถ„ ๋’ค๋กœ ๊ฑธ์„๊ฒŒ์š”."
58:20
Sometimes 10 minutes can make a big difference.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” 10๋ถ„์ด ํฐ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:21
At least it can help me feel more relaxed, or at least more realistic about my stress.
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋‚ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:27
Dan: Definitely.
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๋Œ„: ํ™•์‹คํžˆ.
58:28
Vanessa: Like if something's stressing me, maybe I shouldn't really be stressed about
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Vanessa: ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ
58:32
it, so taking a walk helps me to kind of recenter myself.
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์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ข€ ๋” ์ •์‹ ์„ ์ฐจ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
58:35
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
58:36
Vanessa: And think, "It's not a big deal, it's fine.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  "๋ณ„๊ฑฐ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„.
58:39
I'll just work it out."
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์„œ ํ• ๊ฒŒ."๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
58:40
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
58:41
And the next thing I would do, is take a shower.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ผ์€ ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:43
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
58:44
Dan: Well, I take night time showers, so I don't know, I just find, for me, when I'm
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐค์— ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊นจ๋—ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:49
getting clean, and not really... and like it's kind of that same thing, I'm just like
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58:54
washing my arms, washing my hair, and I find my mind kind of drifting, and it's nice and
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ํŒ”์„ ์”ป๊ณ , ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๊ณ , ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ํ‘œ๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค๊ณ  ์ข‹๊ณ 
58:59
warm.
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๋”ฐ๋œปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:00
I don't know, for me, maybe most people probably would say taking a bath, but I don't really
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ชฉ์š•์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š”
59:06
like to take a bath.
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๋ชฉ์š•์„ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:07
Vanessa: Taking a shower, I've heard too that when you're taking a shower, sometimes that's
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Vanessa: ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€๋”
59:11
when your best ideas happen, because you have no stimulation, there's nothing around you,
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์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž๊ทน๋„ ์—†๊ณ  ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†๊ณ 
59:16
you're just in the shower, so your mind can really be blank, or you can really kind of
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋น„์–ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
59:23
decompress in a different way.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์••์ถ•์„ ํ’€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:25
I feel like that too, taking a shower feels good.
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๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์•ผ, ์ƒค์›Œํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ์ข‹์•„.
59:26
Dan: Yeah, a nice, warm shower.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ณ  ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•œ ์ƒค์›Œ.
59:28
And then finally, sleeping.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ, ์ž .
59:29
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
59:30
Dan: Going to sleep, getting good enough sleep.
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๋Œ„: ์ž๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์š”, ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ž์š”.
59:33
I mean, especially nowadays where everybody has some kind of electronics device where
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ํŠนํžˆ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ™”๋ฉด์„ ์‘์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ „์ž ์žฅ์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š”
59:38
you're staring at a screen, I think that doesn't really help your stress levels go down.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:44
Vanessa: Don't watch this video at 2:00 AM, if it's 2:00 AM in the morning-
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Vanessa: ์˜ค์ „ 2์‹œ๋ผ๋ฉด ์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์˜ค์ „ 2์‹œ์— ๋ณด์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
59:46
Dan: Yeah, stop watching.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋งŒ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
59:47
Vanessa: ... turn it off.
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Vanessa: ... ๊บผ.
59:48
Dan: Got to bed.
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๋Œ„: ์ž ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด.
59:49
Vanessa: You can watch this in the morning.
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Vanessa: ์•„์นจ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:50
Dan: So yeah, that would be the last thing I would do, too.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ผ์ด ๋ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ .
59:54
Lower the stress in my life and relax.
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๋‚ด ์‚ถ์˜ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๊ณ  ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
59:55
Vanessa: Yeah, I think getting good sleep is a really good tip, that was one of the
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ˆ™๋ฉด์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ํŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:00
ones that I wrote down.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ ์–ด ๋†“์€ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:01
Is just- Dan: So we share a few.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ- ๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:02
Vanessa: ... yeah, to get better sleep because sometimes I feel like we want to blame other
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Vanessa: ... ๋„ค, ์ž ์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ž๋ ค๊ณ ์š”. ๊ฐ€๋”์€
60:07
parts of our lives when we feel stressed, but when you look at the basics, "Have I been
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์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๋•Œ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ํƒ“ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด "
60:12
eating healthy?
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋จน๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
60:13
Did I drink enough water today?"
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๋ฌผ์„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋งˆ์…จ๋‚˜์š”?" ์˜ค๋Š˜?"
60:14
And the main one, "Did I sleep enough?"
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ "์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์žค๋‚˜์š”?"
60:17
Probably not, at least in my case, if I feel stressed or anxious, a lot of that's because
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๋‚ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค. ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถˆ์•ˆ๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๋‚€๋‹ค๋ฉด
60:23
my body can't handle what's happening in daily life, because I haven't been treating myself
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์ผ์ƒ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์„ ๋‚ด ๋ชธ์ด ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋‹ค
60:29
well.
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.
60:30
Dan: Yep.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
60:31
Vanessa: So if I sleep better, whether that's consistent sleep, or a longer period of sleep,
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ž ์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ž”๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ด๋“  ๋” ๊ธด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์ด๋“ ,
60:36
just doing that will help me to feel less stressed during the day.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋‚ฎ ๋™์•ˆ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋œ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
60:40
Dan: It is situational though, some people need more or less sleep than other people.
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Dan: ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋” ์ ๊ฒŒ ์ž์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:44
Vanessa: Yeah, so that's why I said get better sleep.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž ์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ .
60:46
Dan: Better sleep, for you.
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๋Œ„: ๋” ์ž˜ ์ž์š”.
60:47
Vanessa: Whatever is better for you.
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Vanessa: ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ ์ง€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:48
But one thing I mentioned that you didn't say, you kind of said, but is to take a tech
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ธ
60:53
break.
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ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:55
And a tech break, we often use this term in our relationship to say, "Today we are not
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ์ค‘๋‹จ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ด€๊ณ„์—์„œ ์ข…์ข… ์ด ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ "์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
61:01
going to... we're just going to put away our phones, we're not going to do anything with
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... ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
61:04
any electronics today at all."
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์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์น˜์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋‘."
61:06
And it seems like it's a simple, easy thing to do, but it feels good just to take a little
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•˜๊ณ  ์‰ฌ์šด ์ผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ,
61:11
break, especially if that is stressing you out, or if you're kind of avoiding dealing
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ํŠนํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
61:18
with problems by looking at your phone.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ”ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:20
I think a lot of use social media, or reading articles-
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฝ๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:24
Dan: The phones and tablets are really bad, I think, because they're so easy-
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Dan: ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ๊ณผ ํƒœ๋ธ”๋ฆฟ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:27
Vanessa: Yeah, to get distracted.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์ฃผ์˜๊ฐ€ ์‚ฐ๋งŒํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:28
Dan: ... to pick up and just keep using.
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Dan: ... ์ง‘์–ด์„œ ๊ณ„์† ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ.
61:30
There's little games, and YouTube, which you may be on right now.
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์ž‘์€ ๊ฒŒ์ž„๊ณผ YouTube๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ ‘์†ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:34
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
61:35
I find myself- Dan: So keep watching.
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๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌ- ๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ณ„์† ์ง€์ผœ๋ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
61:37
Vanessa: ... when I feel stressed, sometimes I don't don't want to think about it, so I'll
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Vanessa: ... ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€๋” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„
61:41
watch a YouTube vide, and then 30 minutes later, I'll realize I still feel stressed.
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YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  30๋ถ„ ํ›„์—๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:47
Dan: 10 YouTube videos later.
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๋Œ„: ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ์˜์ƒ 10๊ฐœ.
61:48
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
61:49
Or maybe for this one it's a couple hours later.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ด๋ฒˆ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํ›„์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:51
Dan: Hey, I have a bonus tip.
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Dan: ์ด๋ด, ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ํŒ์ด ์žˆ์–ด.
61:52
Vanessa: Oh, bonus tip.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ํŒ.
61:53
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
61:54
Dan: Yeah, a bonus tip.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ํŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:55
Vanessa: What's your bonus tip?
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Vanessa: ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ํŒ์ด ๋ญ์ฃ ?
61:56
Dan: I don't really meditate, but I've heard mediation is very great for de-stressing.
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๋Œ„: ์ €๋Š” ๋ช…์ƒ์„ ์ž˜ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ๋ช…์ƒ์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ํ•ด์†Œ์— ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:01
Vanessa: I'm curious if any of you have tried meditation.
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Vanessa: ๋ช…์ƒ์„ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
62:03
Dan: So I would also recommend meditating, but for me, I actually tried something that
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ช…์ƒ๋„ ๊ถŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ, ์ €๋Š”
62:07
was kind of similar, I counted my breaths.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฑธ ํ•ด๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ˆจ์„ ์„ธ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
62:11
So this was actually kind of to help me fall asleep, but a lot of times I can't fall asleep
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ž ์„ ์ž˜ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
62:17
because I'm thinking about the day and feeling stressed.
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.
62:19
Vanessa: You can't turn your mind off.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:21
Dan: So basically the idea that I heard was to breathe in for 10 seconds.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋Š” 10์ดˆ ๋™์•ˆ ์ˆจ์„ ๋“ค์ด์‰ฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:26
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
62:27
Dan: No, no, no, breathe in for five seconds, then breathe out for 10 seconds.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ, 5์ดˆ ๋™์•ˆ ์ˆจ์„ ๋“ค์ด์‰ฌ๊ณ  10์ดˆ ๋™์•ˆ ์ˆจ์„ ๋‚ด์‰ฐ๋‹ค.
62:32
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
62:33
Dan: So you're kind of counting one, two, three, four, five.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•˜๋‚˜, ๋‘˜, ์…‹, ๋„ท, ๋‹ค์„ฏ์„ ์„ธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:34
And then, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋‚˜, ๋‘˜, ์…‹, ๋„ท, ๋‹ค์„ฏ, ์—ฌ์„ฏ, ์ผ๊ณฑ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿ, ์•„ํ™‰, 10.
62:39
And just only thinking about your breaths.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค์ง ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ˜ธํก์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:42
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
62:43
Dan: You know, it really kind of puts the focus somewhere else, and you're breathing
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Dan: ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋‘๊ณ 
62:48
in deeply, which a lot of us do not breathe in deeply, so it helps you to breathe in more
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค์ด๋งˆ์‹œ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‹ฌํ˜ธํก์„ ํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋”
62:54
deeply and concentrate on your breathing.
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๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค์ด์‰ฌ๊ณ  ํ˜ธํก์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:57
Vanessa: Yeah, I heard that one of the side effects of using a computer a lot, or a phone
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ
63:01
a lot, is that when they study people who are looking at a screen, we blink less-
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๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ถ€์ž‘์šฉ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ํ™”๋ฉด์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋œ ๊นœ๋นก์ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:09
Dan: What?
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Dan: ๋ญ?
63:10
Vanessa: ... so our eyes are open, they're getting kind of red and dry, and our breathing
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Vanessa: ...๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋œจ๊ณ , ๋ˆˆ์ด ๋ถ‰์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฑด์กฐํ•ด์ง€๋ฉฐ, ํ˜ธํก์ด
63:14
increases.
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๋นจ๋ผ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:15
So we're kind of like- Dan: They're just like shallow?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜- Dan: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์–•๋‹ค๊ณ ?
63:16
Vanessa: Yeah, like... we're just not focused, like maybe feel a little bit of stress, or
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด... ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
63:23
we're just not focused slow and- Dan: On our bodies.
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์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ - Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชธ์—.
63:26
Vanessa: ... relaxed.
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Vanessa: ... ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:27
Yeah.
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์‘.
63:28
So those long-term effects, if you're doing that for several hours a day, without thinking
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์”ฉ ์•„๋ฌด ์ƒ๊ฐ ์—†์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด
63:33
about it, it can affect your body, so breathing, yeah, slowly, can help to kind of help you
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๋ชธ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ํ˜ธํกํ•˜๋ฉด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋œ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
63:39
feel less stressed.
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.
63:40
Dan: There you go.
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๋Œ„: ์ €๊ธฐ์š”.
63:41
Vanessa: Wow.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™€.
63:42
Dan: That's my most practical tip.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์‹ค์šฉ์ ์ธ ํŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:43
Vanessa: Bonus tip.
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Vanessa: ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ํŒ.
63:44
So I'm curious for you, what are some tips you would give to help someone feel less stress
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์‚ถ์—์„œ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋œ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:50
in their life?
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63:51
To feel more relaxed?
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๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋ ค๋ฉด?
63:52
What would you say?
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๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
63:54
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
63:55
Let's go to the next topic.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:56
The next topic is sports and exercise, so I want to know when you were a kid, what kind
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์™€ ์šด๋™์ธ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ด๋–ค
64:01
of sports or activities did you participate in?
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์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋‚˜ ํ™œ๋™์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:04
Dan: Man, I played a lot of sports.
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๋Œ„: ์•ผ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šด๋™์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
64:06
Vanessa: Yeah?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค?
64:07
Dan: Yeah, I think it kind of shows the privilege we grew up in, that we had so many opportunities
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ
64:12
to try so many different things.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ํŠน๊ถŒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
64:14
Vanessa: That was really lucky to be able to do that kind of stuff.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ •๋ง ์šด์ด ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
64:16
Dan: So first I started out with baseball, but it was called t-ball, so you actually
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ์•ผ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ํ‹ฐ๋ณผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
64:22
put the ball on a tee, and you put the ball there, and you just hit it off of it.
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๊ณต์„ ํ‹ฐ ์œ„์— ๋†“๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ณต์„ ๋†“๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ณค์–ด์š”.
64:26
Vanessa: So no one's throwing the ball.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ณต์„ ๋˜์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๊ตฐ์š”.
64:27
Dan: Yeah, I was really little.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
64:29
Vanessa: It's just stationary.
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Vanessa: ์ •์ง€ ์ƒํƒœ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:30
Dan: And I actually remember when the coaches started pitching to me, I got kind of scared
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Dan: ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ฝ”์น˜๋“ค์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ํˆฌ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š”
64:34
of the ball and I didn't want to play anymore.
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๊ณต์ด ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œ์„œ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋›ฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:37
Vanessa: It's a big deal.
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Vanessa: ํฐ์ผ์ด์•ผ.
64:38
Dan: Yeah, I was really little, so I stopped playing that and I started playing soccer.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋‘๊ณ  ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
64:42
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
64:43
Dan: And swimming as well.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์˜๋„์š”.
64:44
So you call it, probably football in your country, but it's interesting, many, many
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ง€ ๋งŒ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋งŽ์€
64:50
children, play soccer in America.
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:52
Vanessa: Yeah, I think it's easy to get into because you just are running and kicking a
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋›ฐ๊ณ  ๊ณต์„ ์ฐจ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
64:56
ball.
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.
64:57
Dan: Sure.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
64:58
Vanessa: There's no equipment or specialized movements-
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Vanessa: ์žฅ๋น„๋‚˜ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์›€์ง์ž„์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:00
Dan: Right.
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Dan: ๋งž์•„์š”.
65:01
Vanessa: ... at least for kids.
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Vanessa: ... ์ ์–ด๋„ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”์š”.
65:02
Dan: But for some reason, it's not a popular sport to watch.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์™ ์ง€ ๋ณผ ๋งŒํ•œ ์ธ๊ธฐ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
65:05
Vanessa: Or for adults, a lot of adults don't play soccer.
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Vanessa: ๋˜๋Š” ์„ฑ์ธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ์ธ์ด ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
65:08
Dan: Adults don't play soccer that much, it's just children.
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๋Œ„: ์–ด๋ฅธ๋“ค์€ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด๋‹ค.
65:10
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
65:11
Dan: But I played soccer for probably like six year.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•œ 6๋…„ ์ •๋„ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
65:13
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
65:14
Dan: And then I never played it again.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
65:16
Yeah.
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์‘.
65:17
Vanessa: Just as a kid.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์–ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
65:18
Dan: Yep.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
65:19
So I did that, and I did swimming, and gymnastics for a while.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ์ˆ˜์˜๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฒด์กฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค .
65:23
I had a phase where I used to like to do a lot of flips-
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ”Œ๋ฆฝ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:26
Vanessa: Oh, cool.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”.
65:27
Dan: ... so I would jump on the trampoline and do back flips and front flips.
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๋Œ„: ... ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํŠธ๋žจํŽ„๋ฆฐ์„ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๋ฐฑํ”Œ๋ฆฝ๊ณผ ํ”„๋ก ํŠธํ”Œ๋ฆฝ์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
65:30
Vanessa: In a gymnasium that's like a gymnastics center.
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Vanessa: ์ฒด์กฐ ์„ผํ„ฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์—์„œ์š” .
65:32
Dan: Yeah, but also in my backyard.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋’ท๋งˆ๋‹น์—์„œ๋„์š”.
65:33
We had a trampoline.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํŠธ๋žจํด๋ฆฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
65:34
Vanessa: Ah, cool.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋‹ค.
65:35
Dan: So I would do that, and then I did figure skating where we were doing spinning and stuff.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์— ์Šคํ”ผ๋‹ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑธ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ”ผ๊ฒจ ์Šค์ผ€์ดํŒ…์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
65:39
Vanessa: I did figure skating too.
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Vanessa: ํ”ผ๊ฒจ ์Šค์ผ€์ดํŒ…๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
65:41
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
65:42
And then my brother convinced me to take up a more manly sport, hockey.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ํ˜•์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ข€ ๋” ๋‚จ์ž๋‹ค์šด ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ธ ํ•˜ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์„ค๋“ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:46
Vanessa: Oh, it's a shame, you probably would have been really good at figure skating.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๋„ค์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ ํ”ผ๊ฒจ ์Šค์ผ€์ดํŒ…์„ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
65:49
Dan: Yeah, I was all right, but- Vanessa: Yeah.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚œ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•˜์–ด, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ- Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
65:52
I think that's the kind of thing that- Dan: ... it wasn't my true love-
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜- Dan: ... ๋‚ด ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด-
65:55
Vanessa: Like hockey?
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Vanessa: ํ•˜ํ‚ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ?
65:56
Dan: ... that would be hockey.
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Dan: ... ๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ•˜ํ‚ค๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ฒ ์ง€.
65:57
Vanessa: Well, I'm glad that you found your true love, hockey.
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Vanessa: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ์ฐพ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ํ•˜ํ‚ค.
65:59
Dan: I do love hockey, but I don't really have the build for it, I'm a little too small,
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Dan: ์ €๋Š” ํ•˜ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ฒด๊ฒฉ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ž‘๊ธด
66:02
but I still had a lot of fun playing hockey.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํ•˜ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:04
Vanessa: Yeah, and you still play hockey.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„Œ ์•„์ง๋„ ํ•˜ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด.
66:05
Dan: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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๋Œ„: ์Œ-ํ (๊ธ์ •).
66:06
Vanessa: You play on a team here in our city.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋„์‹œ์˜ ํŒ€์—์„œ ๋›ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:09
Dan: That's not all of my sports- Vanessa: I feel like as a... you had a lot
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์˜ ์ „๋ถ€๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ- Vanessa: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”... ๋‹น์‹ ์€
66:11
of organized sports as a kid- Dan: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋งŽ์€ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค- Dan: ์Œ-ํ  (๊ธ์ •์ ).
66:13
Vanessa: ... and maybe that's just because you have a older brother, or just something
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ํ˜•์ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
66:16
that you wanted to do, but I feel like for me-
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
66:18
Dan: I think my dad thought it was good for me too.
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.
66:20
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
66:21
Dan: Which I think is true, it's good for kids to get into organized sports.
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Dan: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์กฐ์งํ™”๋œ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:24
Vanessa: Sure.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
66:25
Sure.
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ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๋Š”.
66:26
I feel like for me as a kid I didn't do team sports as much, like we just played in the
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋’ค๋œฐ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์ด ๋†€์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํŒ€ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค
66:31
backyard a lot.
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.
66:32
Dan: Weren't you kind of a timid child, too?
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๋Œ„: ๋„ˆ๋„ ์†Œ์‹ฌํ•œ ์•„์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๋‹ˆ?
66:34
Vanessa: I wouldn't say I was timid, but I didn't like physical contact with other kids,
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Vanessa: ์†Œ์‹ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ ๋Š” ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์‹ ์ฒด ์ ‘์ด‰์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ
66:39
so basketball for me was really physically aggressive.
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋†๊ตฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์‹ ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:43
Dan: Too rough.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฑฐ์น ๋‹ค.
66:44
Vanessa: Yeah, a little too rough, I didn't really like that.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฑฐ์น ์–ด, ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด.
66:45
Dan: You should try hockey.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ํ•ด๋ด์•ผ์ง€.
66:47
Vanessa: That's very rough.
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Vanessa: ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฑฐ์น ๊ตฐ์š”.
66:49
But I loved swimming, so I think that swimming was probably the main sport of my childhood,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์ˆ˜์˜์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ˆ˜์˜์ด ์ œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
66:56
and through high school every summer my sister and I were on a swim team, and that meant
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๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋‹ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์—ฌ๋ฆ„๋งˆ๋‹ค ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ ๊ณผ ์ €๋Š” ์ˆ˜์˜ ํŒ€์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:01
that every day, twice a day, we would go to swim practice, and I-
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์ˆ˜์˜ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  I-
67:06
Dan: Vanessa's a really good swimmer, she can kick my butt.
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Dan: Vanessa๋Š” ์ˆ˜์˜์„ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ•ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚ด ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋ฅผ ์ฐจ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด์š”.
67:09
Vanessa: Not literally, that is a figurative expression.
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Vanessa: ๋ฌธ์ž ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋น„์œ ์ ์ธ ํ‘œํ˜„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:13
That means I can swim better than Dan, which is true.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ Dan๋ณด๋‹ค ์ˆ˜์˜์„ ๋” ์ž˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:16
Dan: It's true.
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๋Œ„: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์•ผ.
67:17
Vanessa: But it just means that I know the technique, and if Dan or you-
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป ์ด๊ณ  Dan์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด-
67:21
Dan: I'm out there like struggling.
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Dan: ๋‚œ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๊ณ ๊ตฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
67:22
Vanessa: ... if you know the right technique, you can have a lot of endurance because you're
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Vanessa: ... ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์•Œ๋ฉด ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‚ญ๋น„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งŽ์€ ์ง€๊ตฌ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:26
not wasting your energy, so I feel like I learned the right technique, so I can swim
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67:31
longer because I know the right technique because I practiced it a lot.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์—ฐ์Šตํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
67:36
So we would always swim, and then we'd have swim competitions, which are called swim meets,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ˆ˜์˜์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํšŒ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
67:40
and that was a fun part of my childhood growing, was swimming, kind of this... it's kind of
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์ œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ์„ฑ์žฅ์˜ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:45
a team thing, but not really.
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์ •๋ง.
67:46
You have a team, but you're still individual.
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ํŒ€์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:48
Dan: So like combined scores, is that how it works?
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Dan: ํ•ฉ์‚ฐ ์ ์ˆ˜์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ธ๊ฐ€์š” ?
67:51
Vanessa: Well, you would be... you're part of the community team, like your community,
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€... ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ ํŒ€์˜ ์ผ์›์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ
67:56
your neighborhood is the team, but then each person has an individual score.
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์ด์›ƒ๋„ ํŒ€์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ์ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:02
Dan: Score.
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๋Œ„: ์ ์ˆ˜.
68:03
Vanessa: So it's kid of a team, kid of individual, and I liked that.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŒ€์˜ ๊ผฌ๋งˆ, ๊ฐœ์ธ์˜ ๊ผฌ๋งˆ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:07
And it was not physically aggressive.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:09
Dan: That would make me so nervous.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ธด์žฅ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
68:11
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
68:12
Dan: These individual sports, I feel the pressure way too much.
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๋Œ„: ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ข…๋ชฉ, ๋ถ€๋‹ด๊ฐ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฌ๋‹ค.
68:16
If I were swimming and racing, I'd be so scared.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์˜๊ณผ ๊ฒฝ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฌด์„œ์› ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:19
But when I play a sport like basketball, you're on a team, and so you're kind of depending
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋†๊ตฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํŒ€์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
68:26
on each other more, it's not all up to you.
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์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ์˜์กดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ , ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:28
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
68:29
Dan: Although, if you make a big mistake, then everybody's looking at you.
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ํฐ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:31
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
68:32
Dan: That's no fun.
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๋Œ„: ์žฌ๋ฏธ์—†์–ด.
68:33
Vanessa: Yeah, I feel like I like having a team, but at the same time, I like having
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ํŒ€์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋™์‹œ์—
68:38
kind of your own thing going on, you can kind of be more individualistic.
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์ž์‹ ๋งŒ์˜ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข€ ๋” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ฃผ์˜์ ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:42
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
68:43
Vanessa: So I'm curious for you, growing up did you play organized sports like Dan?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ Dan์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
68:48
I also did some volleyball in high school, those types of things, kind of organized sports.
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๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต ๋•Œ ๋ฐฐ๊ตฌ๋„ ์ข€ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ, ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์กฐ์งํ™”๋œ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ฃ .
68:53
But did you play organized sports like that, or did you just play with your friends in
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋˜๊ฐ€์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
68:57
the neighborhood, like I did growing up with my friends in the neighborhood?
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋™๋„ค ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋™๋„ค ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋†€์•˜๋‚˜์š”? ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ
69:01
What kind of activities, or exercise type things did you do when you were a child?
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์–ด๋–ค ํ™œ๋™์ด๋‚˜ ์šด๋™์„ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
69:05
All right, let's go to the next topic.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:07
The next topic is electronics, this is another hypothetical, maybe a dream type question,
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์ƒ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฟˆ์— ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:14
but I want to know if you could upgrade any electronics in your life for no price, it's
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ, ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:20
free, what would you like to upgrade in your life?
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์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
69:24
Dan: Interesting.
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๋Œ„: ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ตฐ.
69:25
Yeah, I feel like I'm pretty satisfied with our electronic status.
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๋„ค, ์ „์ž ์ƒํƒœ์— ๊ฝค ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
69:29
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
69:30
Dan: Electronics status.
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๋Œ„: ์ „์ž์ œํ’ˆ ์ƒํƒœ.
69:31
Yeah, because you know me.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—.
69:34
I already upgrade my electronics quite freely.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋‚ด ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:37
Vanessa: Dan likes electronics.
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Vanessa: Dan์€ ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:38
Dan: I do, especially like speakers and music.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค์™€ ์Œ์•…์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
69:41
I love music, so I buy a lot of headphones, and a lot speakers, and stuff like this.
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์ €๋Š” ์Œ์•…์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ ํ—ค๋“œํฐ, ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค ๋“ฑ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:47
And every time I'm about to buy something like that she looks at me like, "Why are you
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "์™œ
69:51
buying another thing like this?"
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋Š๋ƒ?"
69:53
I haven't bought too much- Vanessa: Yeah, it's not too much.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”- Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
69:55
Dan: ... but I just tend to browse, and sometimes I look at these humongous speakers that would
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Dan: ...ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋”
70:01
fill an opera room, or something, and I'm like, "These would be awesome to have."
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์˜คํŽ˜๋ผ ๋ฃธ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฑ„์šธ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  "์ด๊ฑฐ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์„ ํ…๋ฐ."๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:06
Vanessa: And then I need to remind Dan that we don't live in a house the size of a football
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Dan์—๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๊ฟˆ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ถ•๊ตฌ์žฅ ํฌ๊ธฐ์˜ ์ง‘์— ์‚ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
70:11
field, like his dream.
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.
70:12
Dan: But in my dream house- Vanessa: Someday when we have that dream house,
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง‘์—์„œ- Vanessa: ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์—์š”,
70:15
right?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
70:16
Dan: ... it will have those speakers, yes.
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Dan: ... ๋„ค, ๊ทธ ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:17
Vanessa: What would you like to upgrade if you could do it for no price?
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Vanessa: ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์—†์ด ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
70:19
Dan: Yeah, so right now it would be a laptop.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ์€ ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:21
Vanessa: Oh, yeah, your laptop just broke.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๋„ค, ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์ด ๊ณ ์žฅ๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”.
70:24
Dan: Yeah, so our son, Theo, decided to step on my laptop.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋“ค Theo๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ๋ฐŸ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์–ด .
70:29
And it still actually works pretty well, but it snapped in half, so somehow it's still
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฝค ์ž˜ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์ ธ์„œ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ
70:35
working, but it's old anyways.
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์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์˜ค๋ž˜๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:36
Vanessa: Yeah, it's his fault, but you know, you shouldn't have left it on the floor.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ์˜ ์ž˜๋ชป์ด์•ผ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์— ๋†”๋‘์ง€ ๋ง์•˜์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด.
70:40
Dan: Yeah, so I'll probably update my laptop soon, which is a very doable thing nowadays.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ ๊ณง ์ œ ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:44
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
70:45
Yeah, you could get a laptop that isn't broken in half.
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์˜ˆ, ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
70:48
Dan: Yeah, and the second thing is actually something we've never had before, which would
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Dan: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ „์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š”
70:53
be a security system.
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๋ณด์•ˆ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:54
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
70:56
Dan: It sounds like you would only want this in a neighborhood where you would-
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™๋„ค์—์„œ๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”-
71:00
Vanessa: You feel kind of dangerous.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ข€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:01
Yeah.
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์‘.
71:02
Dan: ... you feel like you're in danger.
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Dan: ...๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:03
But I still feel like it would just kind of add comfort to me.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์„ ๋”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:06
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
71:07
Dan: We've always lived in apartments where they had a gate, or a front door, where-
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฌธ์ด๋‚˜ ์ •๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์•„ํŒŒํŠธ์—์„œ ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:12
Vanessa: You have other people around you.
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Vanessa: ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:14
Dan: ... and you have other people around you, you're not like just such a solo target.
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Dan: ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹  ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Œ€์ƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:17
Because in America, you're just living in a house in neighborhood, and it's like standalone,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด์›ƒ์ง‘์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋…๋ฆฝํ˜•๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๊ธฐ
71:24
so I'd like to get some cameras, and something I could check on the house and make sure everything's
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง‘์•ˆ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
71:29
okay.
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.
71:30
And just for peace of mind mostly.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋งˆ์Œ์˜ ํ‰ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด.
71:31
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
71:32
Yeah, I feel like our neighborhood's not dangerous at all.
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๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋™๋„ค๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
71:34
Dan: It's very safe, yeah.
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Dan: ์•„์ฃผ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•ด์š”, ๋„ค.
71:35
Vanessa: But even if you leave to go away for a week, and you want to be able to see
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ์ง‘์„ ๋น„์šฐ๊ณ  ์ง‘ ๋ฐ–์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
71:41
outside the house, that could be helpful, yeah.
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๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
71:43
Dan: Yeah, and in modern times there's a lot of really good security systems out there.
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Dan: ๋„ค, ํ˜„๋Œ€์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ณด์•ˆ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:48
Vanessa: Yeah, that could be helpful.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:50
I feel like, for me, my answer to this is- Dan: This shows how much Vanessa cares about
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€- Dan: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ Vanessa๊ฐ€ ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
71:55
electronics.
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.
71:56
Vanessa: I had to think about this for a long time, because I don't really care about electronics
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Vanessa: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:01
that much- Dan: I always choose the electronics, I bought
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Dan: ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ณ 
72:02
her computer.
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ƒ€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:03
I actually built her computer.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:04
Vanessa: Yeah, Dan built the computer that we use for editing and for doing work, but
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, Dan์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํŽธ์ง‘๊ณผ ์ž‘์—…์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
72:10
I feel like for me something electronic that I would like to upgrade is kind of practical,
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์ €๋Š” ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์‹ค์šฉ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:17
our car that we have, you use a key to open it, and that's fine.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž๋™์ฐจ๋Š” ์—ด์‡ ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์—ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:22
Dan: What?
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๋Œ„: ๋ญ?
72:23
You use a key?
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ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
72:24
Vanessa: But it would be really great to have a beeper button, so this is pretty typical-
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜ธ์ถœ๊ธฐ ๋ฒ„ํŠผ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์„ ํ…๋ฐ , ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
72:29
Dan: This is funny because everybody in America has this, except for us.
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.
72:32
Vanessa: Yeah, I think if your car is newer than 2000, so if it's within the last 20 years,
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ฐจ๊ฐ€ 2000๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ƒˆ๋กญ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ง€๋‚œ 20๋…„ ์ด๋‚ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ฐจ๋ฌธ์„
72:40
you probably have a beeper that opens the car door.
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์—ฌ๋Š” ์‹ ํ˜ธ์Œ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
72:43
Some really new cars have a beeper that turns on the car, I don't need that, I just would
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์ผ๋ถ€ ์ •๋ง ์ƒˆ ์ฐจ์—๋Š” ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์ผœ๋Š” ์‹ ํ˜ธ์Œ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€
72:48
like a beeper that can open the door, because we have a two year old and soon we will have
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๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹ ํ˜ธ์Œ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:53
another child, and opening the car on one side, going to the other, putting him in the
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์ฐจ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ์ชฝ์— ์žˆ๊ณ  , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์— ํƒœ์šฐ๊ณ 
72:58
car, coming back, unlocking it, it seems so- Dan: Yeah, we never realized how much we'd
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, ๋Œ์•„์™€์„œ ์ž ๊ธˆ์„ ํ•ด์ œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
73:02
appreciate this.
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.
73:03
Vanessa: Yeah, I would really appreciate this small convenience.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ด ์ž‘์€ ํŽธ์˜๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ๊ณ ๋ง™๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
73:05
Dan: I mean, our car should have this, but we bought it used, and the person who sold
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๋Œ„: ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฐจ์— ์ด๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ค‘๊ณ ๋กœ ์ƒ€๋Š”๋ฐ ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ํŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
73:09
us the car lost those keys.
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์—ด์‡ ๋ฅผ ์žƒ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
73:11
Vanessa: Yeah, they only had the regular key.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜ ์—ด์‡ ๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:13
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
73:14
Vanessa: So do you think that it's possible, because that existed before, could we do this?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „์—๋„ ์กด์žฌํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฑธ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
73:18
Dan: Yes, it's very easy.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ์•„์ฃผ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:19
Vanessa: Oh, really?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•„, ์ •๋ง์š”?
73:20
Dan: Yeah, we have to go to the dealership and ask them, and they have to calibrate it.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ํŒ๋งค์ ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:24
Vanessa: And we have to just buy more keys?
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Vanessa: ์—ด์‡ ๋ฅผ ๋” ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
73:27
My dream is going to come true.
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๋‚ด ๊ฟˆ์€ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:28
Dan: We could make this happen.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:29
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
73:30
Dan: But I think at the time when I asked the dealership about that, we had just bought
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ฆฌ์ ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ดค์„ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ
73:35
the car, and it was pretty expensive, and we didn't really have that much money, and
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์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์ƒ€๊ณ  ๊ฝค ๋น„์ŒŒ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์ด
73:38
I was like, "We can't afford to get the keys too."
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์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ด์‡ ๋„ ๊ตฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ."
73:41
Vanessa: Sure, because we decided to pay for the car outright.
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Vanessa: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฐจ๊ฐ’์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
73:44
Dan: Right.
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๋Œ„: ๋งž์•„์š”.
73:45
But it's definitely doable, this very simple fix in your life.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ์•„์ฃผ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:49
Vanessa: Wow, dreams come true right here on YouTube, thank you.
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Vanessa: ์™€, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ YouTube์—์„œ ๊ฟˆ์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:52
Well, I'm curious for you, if you could upgrade, or if you could have some electronics completely
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๋˜๋Š” ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋น„์šฉ ์—†์ด ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
73:58
for free with no price added, what would you like to upgrade in your life?
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์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:03
I'm curious.
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๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ด.
74:04
Let us know.
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์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
74:05
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
74:06
Let's go to the last topic.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:08
Our final topic is money.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ๋ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:11
I want to know, what are three purchases that you regret?
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ›„ํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ตฌ๋งค๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ? ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•œ
74:16
Three things that were not worth it.
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๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€.
74:17
Dan: That I regret.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํ›„ํšŒ๋ผ.
74:18
Not three things I love?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
74:19
Vanessa: No, what were three purchases that after you bought it you said, "Ah, I shouldn't
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ตฌ๋งค ํ›„ "์•„,
74:23
have bought this."
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์ด๊ฑธ ์‚ฌ์ง€ ๋ง์•˜์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด."
74:25
Dan: Oh, okay, so regretful purchases.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ตฐ์š”, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์•„์‰ฌ์šด ๊ตฌ๋งค๋„ค์š”.
74:28
Vanessa: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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Vanessa: Mm-hmm(๊ธ์ •).
74:29
Dan: Well, the first one I can think of kind of checks all of the boxes as something you
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Dan: ์Œ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ›„ํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒ์ž๋ฅผ ์ฒดํฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
74:33
regret.
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.
74:34
Because in the first place, you didn't want me to buy this.
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์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๊ธธ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:37
Vanessa: Because it was- Dan: Expensive.
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Vanessa: ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ- Dan: ๋น„์‹ธ.
74:39
Vanessa: ... headphones.
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Vanessa: ... ํ—ค๋“œํฐ.
74:40
We were talking about music devices.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Œ์•… ์žฅ์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:41
Dan: We were talking about it.
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:43
Yes.
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์˜ˆ.
74:44
I already had headphones that I listen to all the time-
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ํ—ค๋“œํฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:47
Vanessa: That he loves.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ํ—ค๋“œํฐ์ด์ฃ .
74:48
Dan: ... so I was already getting the judgment feelings from Vanessa, but I thought maybe
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Dan: ... ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๋ฏธ Vanessa๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํŒ๋‹จ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
74:54
I wanted something with even better sound, maybe a different kind of sound.
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๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‚ฌ์šด๋“œ, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:57
I was looking for the new sound.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
74:59
Vanessa: But what happened?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
75:01
Dan: We didn't have very much money at this time either, so-
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹œ์—๋„ ๋ˆ์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—-
75:04
Vanessa: Ah, that was another layer.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณ„์ธต์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:06
Dan: ... I bought these over $100 headphones, and we took them home, and they started hurting
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๋Œ„: ... 100๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ๋„˜๋Š” ํ—ค๋“œํฐ์„ ์‚ฌ์„œ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ”๋”๋‹ˆ
75:13
my ears- Vanessa: Because they were kind of-
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๊ท€๊ฐ€
75:15
Dan: ... they were just painful.
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์•„ํ”„๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
75:16
Vanessa: ... they were like noise canceling headphones?
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Vanessa: ... ๋…ธ์ด์ฆˆ ์บ”์Šฌ๋ง ํ—ค๋“œํฐ ๊ฐ™์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
75:18
Dan: No, it's like they're on ear, they just, they weren't really build to listen to as
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Dan: ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€, ๋‚˜๋งŒํผ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ตฌ์กฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
75:22
long as I do.
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.
75:23
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
75:24
Dan: So they hurt my ears, and I was like, "Oh, no.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด ๊ท€๋ฅผ ์•„ํ”„๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” "์˜ค, ์•ˆ๋ผ.
75:27
They're hurting my ears, this is really bad."
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๋‚ด ๊ท€๋ฅผ ์•„ํ”„๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด, ์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์‹ฌํ•ด."
75:29
Vanessa: "I can't tell Vanessa."
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Vanessa: "Vanessa์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
75:30
Dan: "I can't."
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๋Œ„: "๋ชปํ•ด์š”."
75:31
Yeah.
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์‘.
75:32
But then also, we bought them in South Korea, and the place that I bought them had a no
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์—ญ์‹œ ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ƒ€๋Š”๋ฐ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฐ ๊ณณ์—์„œ
75:37
return policy, so I couldn't return them.
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๋ฐ˜ํ’ˆ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€ ์ •์ฑ…์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋ฐ˜ํ’ˆ์„ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
75:39
Vanessa: And then what happened?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
75:41
Dan: And then I brought them home, and I sat them down, and our cat walked up to them and
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง‘์— ๋ฐ๋ ค์™€์„œ ์•‰ํ˜”๋Š”๋ฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€
75:47
bit the cord and just broke them.
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ํƒฏ์ค„์„ ๋ฌผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ๋œจ๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
75:50
Vanessa: Yes, within five minutes.
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, 5๋ถ„ ์ด๋‚ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:51
Dan: Within five minutes.
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๋Œ„: 5๋ถ„ ์ด๋‚ด.
75:53
No, like five seconds.
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์•„๋‹ˆ, 5์ดˆ ์ •๋„.
75:54
The second I sat the headphones down, the cat bit them.
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ํ—ค๋“œํฐ์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋†“๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ฐ€ ํ—ค๋“œํฐ์„ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:57
Vanessa: And it was the kind of cord that you can't just take out and replace it, you
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฝ”๋“œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋นผ์„œ ๊ต์ฒดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ฝ”๋“œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:01
have to do some... you have to send it into the company and pay a lot to get it fixed.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋ณด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ ์น˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:04
Dan: Well, I didn't know how to fix it.
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Dan: ์Œ, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ณ ์น ์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž์–ด์š”.
76:05
I think my dad actually fixed it later and he used them.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๊ณ ์ณ์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
76:08
Vanessa: Oh, that's good.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ข‹๋„ค์š”.
76:09
Dan: So there you go, it actually worked out in the end.
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Dan: ์ž, ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:11
Vanessa: Wow.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™€.
76:12
But yeah, there was a couple layers of regret.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๋ช‡ ๊ฒน์˜ ํ›„ํšŒ๊ฐ€์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:13
Dan: Yeah, there was a lot of layers of regret, and then the cat bit the cord anyway.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ํ›„ํšŒ์˜ ๊ฒน์ด ๋งŽ์•˜๊ณ , ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ํƒฏ์ค„์„ ๊นจ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
76:17
Vanessa: Ah, and that's something that we should have known.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:21
We should have put them up somewhere, you could have put them somewhere else, but it
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์— ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
76:25
just kind of was icing on the cake.
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์ •๋ง ๊ธˆ์ƒ์ฒจํ™”์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:27
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
76:28
Vanessa: Which means, it was one more thing.
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Vanessa: ์ฆ‰, ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋” ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:30
Dan: Now I can't even use them.
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Dan: ์ด์ œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:31
Because I was like hoping, "Oh, some day maybe they'll be more comfortable.
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"์•„, ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋” ํŽธํ•ด์งˆ์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ.
76:33
Maybe they'll just feel better, I'll get used to them."
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋‚˜์•„์งˆ์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ. ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง€๊ฒ ์ง€ ."
76:36
Vanessa: But then you can't even use them because our cat bit the cord.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ฐ€ ์ฝ”๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:38
Dan: Yep.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
76:39
Vanessa: Well, that's a regretful purchase.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ์œ ๊ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ตฌ์ž…์ด๊ตฐ์š”.
76:41
Dan: There you go, there's a whole story behind that.
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Dan: ์ž, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋’ค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
76:42
Vanessa: Yeah, can I say one of mine first?
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ œ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋จผ์ € ํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
76:44
Dan: Go ahead.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
76:45
Yes.
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์˜ˆ.
76:46
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
76:47
One of mine is much smaller, but it is anytime that I buy tea at Starbucks, always a bad
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๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ž‘์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํƒ€ ๋ฒ…์Šค์—์„œ ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚˜์œ
76:52
decision.
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๊ฒฐ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:53
Dan: Sorry, Starbucks.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ด์š”, ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค.
76:54
Vanessa: Yeah, but I don't like coffee, and if I go to Starbucks that's the only drink
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Vanessa: ์‘, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚œ ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉด
77:00
that I can drink, because they have a lot of coffee stuff, a lot of sweet stuff, but
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์Œ๋ฃŒ์•ผ. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค์—๋Š” ์ปคํ”ผ ์žฌ๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ณ  ๋‹ฌ์ฝคํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งŽ์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํƒ€
77:06
one tea bag at Starbucks, you're just buying a tea bag with hot water, they're not making
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๋ฒ…์Šค์—๋Š” ํ‹ฐ๋ฐฑ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ . ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ๋ฌผ์ด ๋“  ํ‹ฐ๋ฐฑ์„ ์‚ฌ์„œ ์•„๋ฌด ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ-
77:11
anything- Dan: Fancy.
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๋Œ„: ํŒฌ์‹œ.
77:12
Vanessa: ... it's not a specialized drink.
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Vanessa: ... ํŠน์ˆ˜ ์Œ๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:15
It's just hot water and a tea bag, and it's like $2.50, or something.
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๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ๋ฌผ๊ณผ ํ‹ฐ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด 2 ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ 50์„ผํŠธ ์ •๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:22
Like $2.50 just for a bag of tea.
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์ฐจ ํ•œ ๋ด‰์ง€์— $2.50 ์ •๋„.
77:25
And you can buy a whole box of tea for the same price.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์— ์ฐจ ํ•œ ์ƒ์ž ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
77:28
Dan: By the way, this is the difference between Vanessa and I, is that I would never sweat
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด Vanessa์™€ ๋‚˜์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
77:34
a purchase like that.
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.
77:35
Vanessa: Well for me it's the taste.
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Vanessa: ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ง›์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:36
It's not necessarily the price, the price is high for tea, but the taste is never worth
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๊ผญ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ๋งŒ๋งŒ์น˜ ์•Š์€๋ฐ, ์ฐจ์น˜๊ณ ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ๋น„์‹ธ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง›์€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์•„๊น์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
77:43
it.
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.
77:44
It's just mediocre tea, it's not even that great.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์ฐจ์ผ๋ฟ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
77:46
Dan: I'd still never regret it.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ›„ํšŒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:48
Vanessa: Yeah, well- Dan: I don't regret cheap purchases, I never
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์Œ- Dan: ์‹ธ๊ตฌ๋ ค ๊ตฌ๋งค๋ฅผ ํ›„ํšŒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:51
think about it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:52
Vanessa: I feel like for me it's just annoying because I want to have a cool drink if I'm
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Vanessa: ์ปคํ”ผ์ˆ์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์‹œ์›ํ•œ ์Œ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ
77:56
going to a coffee shop, but then it's just a tea bag in water.
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๋ฌผ์— ๋‹ด๊ธด ํ‹ฐ๋ฐฑ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๋ผ ๊ท€์ฐฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
78:00
It's not even loose leaf tea.
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๋Š์Šจํ•œ ์žŽ ์ฐจ๋„ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:01
Anyway, I'm a tea snob, so let's go to yours.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฐจ ์†๋ฌผ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋„ค๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์ž.
78:04
Dan: That's true.
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๋Œ„: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:05
All right, the next in my list could be actually a category in and of itself, but the most
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์ข‹์•„, ๋‚ด ๋ชฉ๋ก์˜ ๋‹ค์Œ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ž์ฒด๋กœ ์นดํ…Œ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ
78:09
recent occurrence was when we went to a place on our beach vacation called The Turtle Museum.
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์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ณ€ ํœด๊ฐ€์ง€์—์„œ The Turtle Museum์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:16
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
78:17
Dan: And it sounded all fancy, but it was probably $15 bucks a person to get in.
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Dan: ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ธด ํ•œ๋ฐ, ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ 1์ธ๋‹น $15 ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜€์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
78:22
Vanessa: Yeah, it was like a turtle rehabilitation center.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด ์žฌํ™œ ์„ผํ„ฐ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š” .
78:25
Dan: Yeah, but there was just one room with some pictures on the wall, and then we thought
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Dan: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฒฝ์— ๋ช‡ ์žฅ์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
78:30
we were going to see turtles up close and personal, but they were just in big swimming
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๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด์„œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ํฐ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
78:34
pools and you could barely see them.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:36
Vanessa: Were they breathing out of their butts?
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Vanessa: ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ฌ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š” ?
78:37
Dan: They probably were at the time.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋•Œ์˜€์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
78:39
Vanessa: No, they're sea turtles.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด์•ผ.
78:40
Dan: You're right, they weren't breathing out of their butts.
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Dan: ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๋กœ ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
78:43
And so I was just disappointed with the whole experience and didn't think it was worth it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ์‹ค๋งํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์„ ๊ตฌํ•ด์ค˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ
78:48
Although, that was a little different because I felt like I was donating because they rescue
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‹ฌ๋ž์ง€๋งŒ,
78:52
turtles, but there are a lot of places that are like this, like a museum, or some kind
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๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์ด๋‚˜
78:58
of show that maybe you pay a up front cost, and then the show or the museum is just not
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์„ ๋ถˆ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์‡ผ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์‡ผ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์€
79:04
very good, or boring.
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๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ง€๋ฃจํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:05
Vanessa: Yeah, like have you ever traveled somewhere and you paid to enter a museum,
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์— ์ž…์žฅํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
79:08
or you paid to enter some building and it just wasn't worth it.
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79:12
I feel like that's happened a lot, and that's just the most recent for us, is that, "Okay,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ฑฐ๋ถ ์žฌํ™œ ์„ผํ„ฐ
79:16
I feel okay because I donated some money to that turtle rehabilitation center."
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์— ๋ˆ์„ ์ข€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š” ."
79:21
But we didn't really get to see turtles in the way that we wanted to.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋ฅผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
79:27
Dan: I wanted to touch a turtle.
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๋Œ„: ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋ฅผ ๋งŒ์ ธ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
79:28
Vanessa: Oh, but they are in a hospital, they're being rehabilitated.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ณ‘์›์— ์žˆ๊ณ  ์žฌํ™œ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:31
Dan: That's true, it was a turtle hospital.
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๋Œ„: ๋งž์•„์š”, ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด ๋ณ‘์›์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
79:33
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
79:34
Do you have any other- Dan: But it sounded way cooler-
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฑด ์—†๋‚˜์š”- Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋ฉ‹์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ ธ์–ด์š”-
79:35
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
79:36
Yeah, it did sound cool.
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๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
79:37
"Go to the turtle center and see the turtles."
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"๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด ์„ผํ„ฐ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ด."
79:39
Dan: Yeah, my last thing is just a small thing.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚ด ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ผ์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ž‘์€ ์ผ์ด์•ผ.
79:41
I bought some t-shirts online, and it's kind of iffy to buy clothes online, but I always
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ํ‹ฐ์…”์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ์ƒ€๋Š”๋ฐ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ท์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ข€ ์• ๋งคํ•˜๊ธด ํ•œ๋ฐ, ํ‹ฐ์…”์ธ ์—
79:48
felt like I like the picture that was on them, but then the quality of the shirt wasn't very
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์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ง„์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋•Œ ์…”์ธ ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜-
79:52
good or- Vanessa: Especially when it's online, you
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Vanessa: ํŠนํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๋•Œ๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ƒํƒœ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
79:54
can't feel it.
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๋Š๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:55
Dan: ... it didn't fit that well.
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๋Œ„: ...๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ž˜ ์•ˆ ๋งž์•˜์–ด.
79:56
Yeah, not a great idea.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ.
79:57
I've regretted some of those purchases.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ตฌ๋งค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ›„ํšŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:59
Vanessa: Another thing that I feel like I've bought that wasn't worth it, this is a general
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ
80:03
category, but it's some toys for our, now he's two year old, but throughout his short
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๋ฒ”์ฃผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‘ ์‚ด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ์˜ ์งง์€
80:09
life, some toys that I bought for him that I thought he'd like, because he played with
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์ƒ์•  ๋™์•ˆ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•œ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ง‘์—์„œ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋†€์•„์„œ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜๋˜ ๊ทธ,
80:13
at a friend's house, or I just thought it would be cool, but he didn't really like it.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค.
80:18
For example, there's this thing that was... it's like a bead maze, and I remember liking
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ด๊ฒŒ... ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ตฌ์Šฌ ๋ฏธ๋กœ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”. ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์ด๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”
80:24
this as a kid, which is why I got it- Dan: I thought he played with that.
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.
80:27
Vanessa: Not really, he kind of wanted to just pull the beads off, but he couldn't play
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ตฌ์Šฌ์„ ๋ฝ‘๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋†€ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
80:32
with.
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.
80:33
But I remember I played with it as a kid, and I found it at a second hand store.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋†€๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์—์„œ ์ฐพ์•˜๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:37
It was like $10, it wasn't that much, but I thought he'd play with it.
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10๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ •๋„์˜€์–ด, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋†€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
80:42
I was like, "This is it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” "์ด๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
80:43
He's going to play with this for so long, it's going to be great."
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๋†€๊ฑฐ์•ผ. ๋ฉ‹์งˆ๊ฑฐ์•ผ."
80:45
And he just never really played with it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋†€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:47
So I feel like- Dan: This will probably be an ongoing problem.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€- ๋Œ„: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ง€์†์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:50
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
80:51
So now I- Dan: Now that we have kids.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด์ œ ๋‚˜- ๋Œ„: ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:52
Vanessa: I've tried to kind of back up and think, "Okay, he likes to play with these
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Vanessa: "์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด
80:57
three things.
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์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:58
If other people want to give him presents, and give him other toys, that's fine, but
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฑด
81:03
I'm not really going to invest in more toys because he kind of likes the same things all
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์— ํˆฌ์žํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
81:11
the time."
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."
81:12
Dan: Legos, legos, legos.
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๋Œ„: ๋ ˆ๊ณ , ๋ ˆ๊ณ , ๋ ˆ๊ณ .
81:13
Vanessa: Legos, legos, legos.
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Vanessa: ๋ ˆ๊ณ , ๋ ˆ๊ณ , ๋ ˆ๊ณ .
81:14
Sometimes Play-Doh, sometimes the sandbox.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” Play-Doh, ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ƒŒ๋“œ๋ฐ•์Šค.
81:17
Dan: But mostly legos.
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๋Œ„: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ ˆ๊ณ ์˜ˆ์š”.
81:18
Vanessa: But generally the same couple toys again, and again, and again.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ปคํ”Œ ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์ด ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์ด๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์ด๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ.
81:22
So I'm curious for you, what are some purchases that you've made that weren't worth it, that
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
81:27
you regretted?
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ํ›„ํšŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:28
This video is free on YouTube, so this is not a purchase.
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์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์€ YouTube์—์„œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ตฌ๋งค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:32
I hope that you have not regretted spending your time, though, with us.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ›„ํšŒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์…จ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:34
Dan: Yeah, I know what you wouldn't regret, purchasing the Fearless Fluency Club.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, Fearless Fluency Club์„ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜๋ฉด ํ›„ํšŒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
81:38
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
81:39
Well- Dan: There's a pitch for you.
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์Œ- Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ”ผ์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:41
Vanessa: This is our monthly English course where we teach about a different topic every
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Vanessa: ๋งค๋‹ฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์›”๊ฐ„ ์˜์–ด ์ฝ”์Šค๋กœ
81:47
month, and you learn the vocabulary, phrasal verbs, pronunciation.
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์–ดํœ˜, ๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ, ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋ฐฐ์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:49
We have a private Facebook group where a lot of members meet together and talk together
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํšŒ์›๋“ค์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์—ฌ
81:55
to practice speaking English.
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์˜์–ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:57
And once a month I have a group Google hangout and we talk together.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€ Google ํ–‰์•„์›ƒ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:00
Just a great way to expand your English and be able to learn more.
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:05
So if you enjoyed our conversation today- Dan: Yeah, and one might say, "Become fluent."
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šฐ์…จ๋‹ค๋ฉด- ๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  "์œ ์ฐฝํ•ด์ง€์„ธ์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:08
Vanessa: Yes, I hope so, become more confident.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์„ธ์š”.
82:10
Well, thank you so much for joining me today.
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์ž, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:12
Dan: You're welcome.
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๋Œ„: ์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”.
82:13
We're done?
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๋๋‚ฌ์–ด?
82:14
Vanessa: Wow, this was a lot.
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Vanessa: ์™€, ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์•˜์–ด์š”.
82:15
Dan: Can you believe it?
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๋Œ„: ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
82:16
Did you make it all the way though?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ์–ด?
82:17
Vanessa: If you made it this far, congratulations.
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Vanessa: ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์™”๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:19
Pat yourself on the back.
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๋“ฑ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ ค๋ผ.
82:21
We asked a lot of questions today, so I'm going to put those in the description below,
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์•„๋ž˜ ์„ค๋ช…์— ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋„ฃ์–ด ๋ณด๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:26
so that you can go to each topic if you want to go back and watch a certain topic, or if
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๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ํŠน์ • ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
82:30
you saw some vocabulary appear that you'd like to review and practice, you can always
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ํŠน์ • ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณต์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ธ์ œ๋“ ์ง€
82:36
go back and review what we talked about.
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๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ณต์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:38
If you have any questions, feel free to ask, and make sure that you write a comment and
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ์ž‘์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ 
82:41
answer some of these questions yourself, use English.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€์— ์ง์ ‘ ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
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Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
82:45
Vanessa: Thank you so much for joining me, Dan.
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Vanessa: ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Dan.
82:46
Dan: You're welcome.
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๋Œ„: ์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”.
82:47
It was very enjoyable.
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๋งค์šฐ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:48
Vanessa: Yes, I appreciate your time.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:49
Dan: It was a journey.
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๋Œ„: ์—ฌํ–‰์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค.
82:50
Vanessa: Your energy.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€.
82:51
Oh, it was a journey.
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์•„, ์—ฌํ–‰์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค.
82:52
Yes, we went through a lot of different topics today.
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๋„ค, ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
82:54
Thank you so much as well for learning English with me and with Dan today, I'll see you next
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ €์™€ Dan๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ
82:59
Friday for a new lesson here on my YouTube channel.
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์ฃผ ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์— ์ œ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ˆ˜์—…์œผ๋กœ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
83:02
Bye.
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์•ˆ๋…•.
83:03
Dan: Bye.
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๋Œ„: ์•ˆ๋…•.
83:04
Vanessa: The next step is to download my free ebook, Five Steps to Becoming A Confident
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Vanessa: ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ์ œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ์ „์ž์ฑ…์ธ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ๊ตฌ์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹ค์„ฏ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
83:09
English Speaker.
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.
83:10
You'll learn what you need to do to speak confidently and fluently.
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์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์œ ์ฐฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๋ ˆ์Šจ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ ค๋ฉด
83:15
Don't forget to subscribe to my YouTube channel for more free lessons.
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์ œ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ์ฑ„๋„์„ ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” .
83:19
Thanks so much.
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์ •๋ง ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ.
83:20
Bye.
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์•ˆ๋…•.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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