9 English Conversation Questions to Know Someone Better

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Speak English With Vanessa


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Vanessa: Hi, I'm Vanessa from SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com.
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Vanessa: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ €๋Š” SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com์˜ Vanessa์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:04
Are you ready to have a conversation?
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๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
00:06
Dan: I am.
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๋Œ„: ๋‚˜์•ผ.
00:07
Vanessa: Let's do it.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ•ด๋ณด์ž.
00:14
For today's English lesson, I'm here in front of my Christmas tree with my husband, Dan-
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‚จํŽธ Dan-Dan๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ ์•ž์— ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:18
Dan: Hello, everyone.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
00:19
Vanessa: ... in our matching Christmas sweaters.
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Vanessa: ... ์ผ์น˜ํ•˜๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์Šค์›จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ž…๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:22
Dan: Looking sharp.
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๋Œ„: ๋‚ ์นด๋กœ์›Œ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค.
00:23
Vanessa: Yes, we are drinking some port today.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ํฌํŠธ ์™€์ธ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:27
Cheers.
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๊ฑด๋ฐฐ.
00:28
Dan: Cheers.
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๋Œ„: ๊ฑด๋ฐฐ.
00:29
Vanessa: And we're going to be talking about nine conversation questions that are great
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
00:35
for getting to know someone better.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ ์•Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ข‹์€ 9๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋Œ€ํ™” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:37
Some of these questions are silly.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:39
Some of them are deep.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊นŠ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:40
Some of them are serious and we're going to be asking them to each other.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:43
I hope it will be a great opportunity for you to listen to some real English, but also
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์‹ค์ œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ 
00:48
to expand your vocabulary and be able to learn some new expressions.
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์–ดํœ˜๋ ฅ์„ ๋„“ํžˆ๊ณ  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:52
If we say anything interesting, then I'll try to write it up here so that you can learn
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์ ์–ด์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด
00:56
as you go and improve your English skills.
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๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:59
Are you ready for the first question?
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
01:01
Dan: I'm ready, I think.
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Dan: ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
01:03
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
01:04
The first question is what was the most embarrassing moment of your life?
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ฐฝํ”ผํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€ ์–ธ์ œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:10
Dan: Wow.
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๋Œ„: ์™€.
01:11
This is going to go right straight for the gut.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
01:14
Vanessa: Yep.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
01:15
Dan: This is a pretty tough question I think.
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Dan: ๊ฝค ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
The most embarrassing moment of my life.
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๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„.
01:19
Well, it depends.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”.
01:21
When I was a child, I had a very embarrassing moment where I was about to sing in my choir
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ตํšŒ ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์—์„œ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋ ค๋˜ ์ฐธ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
01:29
at church, and I stepped up to the microphone and I didn't know that if I got too close,
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๋งˆ์ดํฌ์— ๋‹ค๊ฐ€๊ฐ€์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฉด
01:35
it would have all this feedback and noise and stuff.
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ”ผ๋“œ๋ฐฑ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ค„ ๋ชฐ๋ž๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†Œ์Œ ๊ณผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด.
01:38
And I got too close and it made a bunch of fuzzy sounds.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์›Œ์กŒ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ๋ฆฟํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:42
And I remember distinctly a girl who was in the choir said, "You don't have to eat the
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์— ์žˆ๋˜ ํ•œ ์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ "
01:48
mic, Dan."
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๋Œ„, ๋งˆ์ดํฌ๋ฅผ ๋จน์„ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:49
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
01:50
Dan: She said something like that.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
01:51
Vanessa: In front of everyone?
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Vanessa: ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•ž์—์„œ?
01:52
Dan: And everybody was laughing.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ์›ƒ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:53
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
01:54
Dan: So that was a really embarrassing moment.
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๋Œ„: ์ •๋ง ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:56
Vanessa: How old were you?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
01:57
Dan: Like seven, eight.
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๋Œ„: 7, 8์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
01:58
Vanessa: Ah, that's bad.
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Vanessa: ์•„, ์•ˆ๋๊ตฐ.
01:59
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
02:00
So I was a little kid there.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์•„์ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:01
And then see, I have two most embarrassing moments.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
02:04
So I got a lot of embarrassment to go around.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์› ์–ด์š”.
02:07
But this is actually pretty similar.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฝค ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:10
So the second most embarrassing, maybe number one, would be when I failed the speech in
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์—…์—์„œ ์—ฐ์„ค์— ๋‚™์ œํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:18
speech class in university.
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.
02:20
Vanessa probably remembers this.
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Vanessa๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:21
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
02:22
Dan: So I stayed up all night trying to finish my speech and I'm a bit of a perfectionist
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฐ์„ค์„ ๋๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋ฐค์„ ์ƒˆ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ์™„๋ฒฝ์ฃผ์˜์ž์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋‹ค
02:29
sometimes.
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02:30
And I was just working on it way too long and I didn't sleep at all.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ „ํ˜€ ์ž ์„ ์ž์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:33
And then when I got into the school room and started the presentation, I could not remember
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ต๋ฌด์‹ค์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:41
anything at all.
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.
02:42
So I just stood up there like this, and I couldn't say anything.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์„œ์„œ ์•„๋ฌด ๋ง๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:49
And everybody in the room had this look of horror like, "Oh, my God, he doesn't remember
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋ฐฉ์— ์žˆ๋˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ณตํฌ์— ์งˆ๋ฆฐ ํ‘œ์ •์„ ์ง€์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . "์˜ค, ๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค
02:53
anything."
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."
02:54
Vanessa: This is called secondhand embarrassment when you're embarrassed for someone else.
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Vanessa: ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œํ•  ๋•Œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ„์ ‘ ๋‹นํ™ฉ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:57
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
02:58
Everybody was embarrassed for me and I felt so embarrassed and terrible, and I had to
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ฒผ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ๋”์ฐํ•ด์„œ
03:02
leave the room and then I kind of fumbled my way through it later.
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๋ฐฉ์„ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ค‘์—๋Š” ๋”๋“ฌ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ๋ฐฉ์„ ํ—ค์ณ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:06
But yeah.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
03:07
So some advice out there, if you have a speech, practice it, number one, and number two, sleep.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ์„ค์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ, ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ž ์„ ์ž์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
03:12
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
03:13
I remember you said, too, at the end of that class, everyone kind of patted you on the
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์—…์ด ๋๋‚  ๋•Œ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ด๊นจ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ฒŒ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆฐ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:18
shoulder.
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.
03:19
Dan: They're like, "It's okay."
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Dan: "๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”."
03:20
Vanessa: That's really embarrassing.
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Vanessa: ์ •๋ง ์ฐฝํ”ผํ•˜๋„ค์š”.
03:21
And they're both kind of public speaking type situations.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋Œ€์ค‘ ์—ฐ์„ค ์œ ํ˜• ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
03:25
These are probably the top embarrassing moments.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‹นํ™ฉ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
03:28
Public speaking makes me nervous anyways, if you can believe it.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋Œ€์ค‘ ์—ฐ์„ค์€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ธด์žฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
03:31
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
03:32
I'm sure that you're not alone.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ˜ผ์ž๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
In fact, that is one of my most embarrassing moments, too.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:36
Dan: Oh, really?
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ์ •๋ง์š”?
03:37
Vanessa: In fact, it was during a theater practice.
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Vanessa: ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์—ฐ๊ทน ์—ฐ์Šต ๋•Œ์˜€์–ด์š”.
03:41
I was one of the lead roles in our high school play.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต ์—ฐ๊ทน์—์„œ ์ฃผ์—ฐ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
03:46
Dan: Of course, you were.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
Vanessa: And the problem was that during rehearsals, during that time period, those weeks, I broke
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๋ฆฌํ—ˆ์„ค ์ค‘์—, ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ, ๊ทธ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ์†๋ชฉ์ด ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:53
my wrist.
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.
03:54
So I had a lot of doctor's appointments and I missed a lot of rehearsals.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜์‚ฌ์˜ ์•ฝ์†์ด ๋งŽ์•˜๊ณ  ๋ฆฌํ—ˆ์„ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋†“์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
So one day I went to the rehearsal and I was on the stage.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ๋ฆฌํ—ˆ์„ค์„ ๊ฐ”๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด๋Œ€์— ์„ฐ๋‹ค.
04:02
There was no audience.
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์ฒญ์ค‘์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฐ๊ทน์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
04:03
It was just the other classmates who were in the play and my teacher was in the audience.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ธ‰์šฐ๋“ค๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์€ ๊ด€๊ฐ์„์— ๊ณ„์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
And I didn't know it, but we were supposed to memorize all of our lines on that day.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฐ๋ž์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋Œ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์™ธ์šฐ๊ธฐ๋กœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:15
Dan: Uh-oh.
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๋Œ„: ์–ด-์˜ค.
04:16
Vanessa: But I didn't know it because I had missed so many rehearsals.
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฆฌํ—ˆ์„ค์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋†“์ณ์„œ ๋ชฐ๋ž์–ด์š”.
04:19
And so I got on the stage with my playbook and I was reading my lines because I didn't
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด๋ถ์„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ฌด๋Œ€์— ์˜ฌ๋ผ ๋Œ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์™ธ์›Œ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฝ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:24
know we were supposed to memorize them.
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04:26
And she yelled at me so much.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์งˆ๋ €๋‹ค.
04:29
She was screaming at me.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋น„๋ช…์„ ์ง€๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
This is not a good teacher situation in the first place-
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ต์‚ฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:35
Dan: Yeah.
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Dan: ์˜ˆ.
04:36
Vanessa: ... but she was yelling at me, "Vanessa, why didn't you remember your lines?"
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Vanessa: ...ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "Vanessa, ์™œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋Œ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
04:39
And I stood there and the only thing I could do was just cry.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์„œ์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์ผ์€ ๊ทธ์ € ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
Dan: Oh, no.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
04:44
Vanessa: And I just cried in front of everyone on the stage.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋ฌด๋Œ€ ์œ„์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์•ž์—์„œ ์šธ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
04:47
Dan: Oh, my God.
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๋Œ„: ๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ.
04:48
Vanessa: I was so ashamed and embarrassed- Dan: That sounds so bad.
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Vanessa: ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์› ์–ด์š”- Dan: ์ •๋ง ๋‚˜์˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋„ค์š”.
04:52
Vanessa: ... and I was embarrassed that I was crying.
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์šธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์› ์–ด์š” .
04:53
It was just a really bad situation all around.
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์ •๋ง ๋‚˜์œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
Dan: I hope that teacher felt bad.
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๋Œ„: ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ๋‚˜๋นด์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
04:59
Vanessa: I don't know.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
05:01
She wasn't the nicest person if you can imagine.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
05:04
She probably reveled in it, too, like, "Heh, heh, I got one."
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๊ทธ๋…€๋„ ์•„๋งˆ "ํ—คํ—ค, ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์–ด."
05:06
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
05:07
So that was probably my most embarrassing moments.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:10
All right, let's go to our second question.
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์ž, ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
Dan: All right.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
05:13
The next question is, if you found out that you were the direct descendant of a king or
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์™•์ด๋‚˜ ์™•๋น„์˜ ์ง๊ณ„ ํ›„์†์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
05:18
a queen, would you find them and claim your title or would you keep your life as it is?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์•„์„œ ์นญํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€?
05:25
Vanessa: There is no question, no doubt in my mind.
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Vanessa: ์˜์‹ฌ์˜ ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์‹ฌ์˜ ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
05:29
I would absolutely, what do you think I'm going to say?
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:33
Dan: Oh, you would find out.
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
05:35
Vanessa: Really?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ •๋ง์š”?
05:36
Dan: Oh, no.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
05:37
Am I wrong?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป?
05:38
Vanessa: No.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค.
05:39
I would absolutely keep my life as it is.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์„ ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
Dan: Wow, okay.
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๋Œ„: ์™€, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
05:43
Vanessa: I think that I am not famous at all on YouTube.
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Vanessa: ์ €๋Š” YouTube์—์„œ ์ „ํ˜€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
05:47
YouTube is a very small- Dan: I don't know about that.
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YouTube๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ž‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:49
Vanessa: ... the internet is a very small piece of the world.
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Vanessa: ... ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์€ ์„ธ์ƒ์˜ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:52
Dan: It's not like being a princess.
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๋Œ„: ๊ณต์ฃผ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š์•„.
05:54
Vanessa: But I think if I were very, very extremely famous on the internet or like Hollywood
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ๋‚˜ ํ—๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ์—์„œ๋‚˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์•„์ฃผ ์•„์ฃผ ์•„์ฃผ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด
06:03
or something like this, I would feel so uncomfortable because you can't have a daily life.
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์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ถˆํŽธํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
06:08
You can't go to the grocery store.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:10
You can't walk down the street with your children.
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์ž๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:13
You just can't live a normal life without people looking at you or even potentially
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ณด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž ์žฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ
06:18
hurting you, or you just can't be normal.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋‹ค์น˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ๋Š” ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:22
And I would never want that for myself, I think.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:26
Dan: You wouldn't even want to go meet your royal family?
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Dan: ์™•๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์ž–์•„์š” ?
06:29
Vanessa: Well, I think the part of this question is claim your title or claim your throne.
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Vanessa: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง์œ„๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์žฅํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์™•์ขŒ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:35
I would not want to rule or just become famous and then never be able to have a private life.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ†ต์น˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ ธ์„œ ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:42
That's something that's really important to me.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
06:43
And thankfully, it's something that is possible due to just the widespreadness of the internet,
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๊ณ ๋ง™๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์˜ ๋ณด๊ธ‰์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ
06:50
even though there's many of you who watch these lessons, you're spread out across the
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์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ „
06:55
world.
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์„ธ๊ณ„์— ํผ์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:56
So it's not really a problem that I face in daily life.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ์ง๋ฉดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
06:58
I can still go about my life without being recognized, which is great.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ธ์ •๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
07:03
So I think having a private life is really important to me.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š” .
07:05
And that's, I think, what people who are celebrities or kings and queens don't have.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์™•๊ณผ ์™•๋น„๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:09
They don't have a private life.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:11
Dan: That's true.
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๋Œ„: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:12
Vanessa: So what about you?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:13
Would you claim your throne?
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์™•์ขŒ๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:14
Dan: Yeah, definitely.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ์š”.
07:15
Of course.
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๋ฌผ๋ก .
07:16
Daniel, King of Scots.
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์Šค์ฝ”ํ‹€๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ์™• ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ์—˜.
07:18
Vanessa: Oh, why would you want to do that?
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์™œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:20
Dan: For Ireland, maybe?
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Dan: ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š”์š”?
07:22
I don't know.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:23
Well, because number one, I would just be very curious.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ €๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:27
Oh, what's the story here?
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์•„, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์•ผ?
07:29
How did they find out?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:30
I want to meet these people.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค.
07:32
I also think it would be kind of advantageous to be living as a normal person for most of
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๋‚˜ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ด๋‹ค๊ฐ€
07:37
my existence and then suddenly find out.
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ด๋“์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
07:40
That'd be more like a movie type of scene, not so much like I was born into royalty and
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งˆ์น˜ ์˜ํ™” ๊ฐ™์€ ์žฅ๋ฉด์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์™•์กฑ์œผ๋กœ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜์„œ ์ด
07:47
I have all these procedures and all this fame from birth and everything was given to me.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๊ฑฐ์ณค๊ณ  ํƒœ์–ด๋‚  ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ช…์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์–ด์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:53
No, suddenly one day I find out I'm a prince or something like that.
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™•์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค .
07:58
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
07:59
Dan: I'd be far too curious.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:00
And also maybe, I don't know.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค.
08:03
Vanessa: You always live with, what if?
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ด๊ณ , ๋งŒ์•ฝ์—?
08:04
What if I asked?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌป๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด?
08:05
Dan: Well, I was going to say, maybe I like fame more than you.
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ๋” ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:08
Maybe I like the idea of it or influence.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‚˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:11
I like the idea of influence, like maybe I could use that position for good in the world.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜ํ–ฅ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์น˜ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ง€์œ„๋ฅผ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€.
08:17
Vanessa: Well, I mean, that's not a bad thing.
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ. ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ๋ณด๋‹ค
08:19
You'd be able to probably influence more people than in your private life-
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:22
Dan: Exactly.
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Dan: ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:23
Vanessa: ... but you'd give up your private life at the same time.
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Vanessa: ...ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋™์‹œ์— ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ๋„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:25
All right, let's go to our next question.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค.
08:27
Our next question is to name four things that we have in common.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋„ค ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ง€์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
08:32
Now I'm going to say one, you're going to say one, then I'll say one, then you say one.
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์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:35
Dan: We haven't practiced this, so we better really know each other.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:38
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
08:39
What is something that we have in common?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:40
Dan: Well, we both like to go on adventures.
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Dan: ์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋ชจํ—˜์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:43
Vanessa: Okay, yeah.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
08:44
What kind of adventures?
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์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ชจํ—˜?
08:46
Dan: We like to travel.
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:49
We really enjoyed our time when we traveled to South Korea and living in a different country,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ์„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์— ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ
08:54
eating different food- Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์Œ์‹์„ ๋จน์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ •๋ง ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ๋„ค.
08:57
Dan: ... those experiences, we both enjoy about the same.
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Dan: ... ๊ทธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธด๋‹ค.
09:00
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
09:01
Dan: Neither of us are prone to complaining about it.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ถˆํ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
09:04
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
09:06
Dan: We endure the differences very well.
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ„์„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž˜ ๊ฒฌ๋”˜๋‹ค.
09:09
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
09:10
I would say that another similarity that we have kind of going with this adventure idea
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋ชจํ—˜ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ์‚ฌ์ ์€
09:15
is that we both like to be active.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ํ™œ๋™์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:18
So we often, as a family, go for hikes, or even if it's just a walk around the neighborhood,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋ผ๋ฆฌ ๋“ฑ์‚ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋™๋„ค ์‚ฐ์ฑ…๋งŒ ํ•ด๋„
09:23
this doesn't seem like it's extremely active, but I know a lot of people who never go for
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์—„์ฒญ ํ™œ๋ฐœํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์€๋ฐ, ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ์•ˆ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์•ˆ๋‹ค
09:29
a walk.
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.
09:31
So I think something that we have in common is that we really like to move.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์›€์ง์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:35
We're not extremely active, but we- Dan: Kind of similar to the first.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํ™œ๋™์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”- Dan: ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:38
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
09:39
But I think this has to do with- Dan: A little bit.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ์•ฝ๊ฐ„.
09:40
Vanessa: ... exercise and that we chose our house because we can walk to downtown, because
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Vanessa: ... ์šด๋™์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹œ๋‚ด๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฑธ์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—,
09:46
we can walk to the park, and a lot of places in the US that's not possible.
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๊ณต์›๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฑธ์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์„ ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
09:50
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
09:51
Vanessa: So I think that that's something we have in common.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
09:53
Dan: We have a similar taste in that way.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ทจํ–ฅ์ด ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๋‹ค.
09:54
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
09:55
Yeah.
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์‘.
09:56
What do you think?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
09:57
What's another thing we have in common?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
09:58
Dan: Well, I think both of us, this is something that we both dislike.
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๋Œ„: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:01
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
10:02
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
10:03
We both really dislike phony people.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์งœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์‹ซ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:06
Vanessa: Oh, that's a good one.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ข‹์€๋ฐ์š”.
10:07
Yeah.
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์‘.
10:08
Dan: Fake people or dishonest people.
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๋Œ„: ๊ฐ€์งœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์ •์งํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ.
10:12
We just really don't hang out with people who are fake in any way, really.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๊ฐ€์งœ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:17
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
10:18
Dan: And we can tell, or even like, I don't know, really full of themselves.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ž์‹  ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:22
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
10:23
Dan: We like genuine people- Vanessa: Yeah.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ์˜ˆ.
10:25
Dan: ... like us.
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๋Œ„: ... ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
10:26
Vanessa: I think that when you surround yourself with people like that, people who are fake
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ๊ฐ€์งœ
10:33
or shallow, then it really influences you personally.
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์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฒœ๋ฐ•ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ •๋ง ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
10:37
So by having people around you who you enjoy and are a positive influence, that can really
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
10:43
shape your life.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:44
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
10:45
I have a bonus one.
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๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:46
Vanessa: Oh, I'm not done.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋‚œ ์•ˆ ๋๋‚ฌ์–ด.
10:47
Dan: I know.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•„์š”.
10:48
Vanessa: What if it's mine?
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊บผ๋ผ๋ฉด?
10:49
Dan: We're very fashionable.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํŒจ์…”๋„ˆ๋ธ”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:50
Vanessa: We like- Dan: ... high fashion-
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”- Dan: ... ํ•˜์ด ํŒจ์…˜-
10:53
Vanessa: ... high fashions, cat sweaters.
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Vanessa: ... ํ•˜์ด ํŒจ์…˜, ๊ณ ์–‘์ด ์Šค์›จํ„ฐ.
10:57
Very, yeah, maybe we have a low embarrassment threshold.
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์•„์ฃผ, ์˜ˆ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹นํ˜น๊ฐ์˜ ๋ฌธํ„ฑ์ด ๋‚ฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:01
Dan: Me more than you.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ˆ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ด๊ฐ€.
11:03
Vanessa: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
11:04
I'd say so.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:05
Maybe that's high embarrassment threshold?
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋†’์€ ๋‹นํ˜น๊ฐ ์—ญ์น˜์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
11:06
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
11:07
Vanessa: We're not embarrassed easily.
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‹นํ™ฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:08
We're not embarrassed easily because we can wear sweaters like this on the internet.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์Šค์›จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ž…์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‹นํ™ฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
11:12
Okay.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
11:13
Dan: Okay your real last one, sorry.
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Dan: ๋„ค ์ง„์งœ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๊ฒƒ, ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:15
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
11:16
So my final one is that I think we are both really good at rationally communicating our
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์„œ๋กœ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:24
thoughts to each other.
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11:26
So this is not 100% of the time, but I think that our relationship works really well because
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด 100%๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ์ž‘๋™ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
11:34
when I get upset about something or you're bothered by something, or even life's just
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ดด๋กœ์›Œํ•  ๋•Œ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์ธ์ƒ์ด
11:38
going well, we can kind of put on our rational thinking hats-
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์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ํ˜๋Ÿฌ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ์—๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์„ฑ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. hats-
11:44
Dan: Set aside our biases for a minute.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์€ ์ž ์‹œ ์ ‘์–ด๋‘์„ธ์š”.
11:48
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
11:49
And even if it's really difficult, try to rationally communicate with each other and
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“ค๋”๋ผ๋„ ์„œ๋กœ ์ด์„ฑ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๊ณ 
11:53
kind of set aside emotion or set aside, yeah, that kind of bias.
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๊ฐ์ •์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์€ ์ ‘์–ด๋‘์„ธ์š”.
11:57
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
11:58
Vanessa: And that doesn't work 100% of the time, of course.
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Vanessa: ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ•ญ์ƒ 100% ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:00
But I think that we are both kind of naturally good at that, but we've also worked on that
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ์ž˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:05
a lot.
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.
12:06
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์ •์ด
12:07
We're also pretty lucky because neither of us have extremely high negative emotion.
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์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ฝค ์šด์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:11
So we don't yell at each other very much.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์ง€๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:14
We don't feel very angry that often.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ž์ฃผ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:18
Or if we do, it's not the way some people are when they're angry.
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๋˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:22
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
12:23
Dan: Let's just put it that way.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
12:24
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
12:25
So I think that that's something we have in common is that we communicate in a similar
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์„œ๋กœ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:28
way to each other.
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12:29
All right, let's go to our next question.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค.
12:30
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
12:31
The next question is what would constitute a perfect day for you?
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
12:36
Vanessa: Perfect.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™„๋ฒฝํ•ด.
12:37
Wow.
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์šฐ์™€.
12:38
Well, I think when I saw this question, I kind of thought about a pretty realistically
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š” ๋ณต๊ถŒ์— ๋‹น์ฒจ๋˜์–ด ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ผ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ฝค ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๋‚ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:43
perfect day, not I win the lottery and then I get to fly around the world.
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.
12:50
This is not realistic.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:53
So when I thought about a perfect day, I start at the beginning of the day.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:57
I think the perfect day would be, I wake up, no children are crying.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๋‚ ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊นจ์–ด๋‚˜๋ฉด ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์šธ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:02
Dan: I'm just going to say no children.
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Dan: ๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ• ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
13:04
Vanessa: No children are crying because Dan has woken up and is giving them breakfast.
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Vanessa: Dan์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜ ์•„์นจ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:10
And he has already prepared a wonderful breakfast of oatmeal-
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์˜คํŠธ๋ฐ€ ์•„์นจ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:13
Dan: Oh, this is detailed.
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Dan: ์˜ค, ์ด๊ฑฐ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
Vanessa: ... and- Dan: Oatmeal?
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ - Dan: ์˜คํŠธ๋ฐ€?
13:15
Vanessa: We eat oatmeal every morning.
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ์•„์นจ ์˜คํŠธ๋ฐ€์„ ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:17
Dan: How about bacon and eggs?
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๋Œ„: ๋ฒ ์ด์ปจ๊ณผ ๋‹ฌ๊ฑ€์€ ์–ด๋•Œ?
13:18
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
13:19
There's bacon and eggs.
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๋ฒ ์ด์ปจ๊ณผ ๊ณ„๋ž€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:20
And I wake up at a nice, not too early hour and I get to eat this wonderful breakfast.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ด๋ฅธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์•„์นจ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:27
And we go for a family hike.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ ๋‚˜๋“ค์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:28
Dan: Is this just at our house?
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์—๋งŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
13:29
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
13:30
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
13:31
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
13:32
We go for a family hike in the mountains all morning and afternoon and have a picnic on
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ค์ „๊ณผ ์˜คํ›„ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์‚ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‚ฐ ์—์„œ ํ”ผํฌ๋‹‰์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:37
the mountain.
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.
13:38
And then in the afternoon, we come back and our children magically are just playing so
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜คํ›„์— ๋Œ์•„์™€์„œ
13:45
peacefully while we prepare dinner together.
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์ €๋…์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋งˆ์ˆ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ‰ํ™”๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋†€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:48
Dan: Wow.
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๋Œ„: ์™€.
13:49
Oh, together.
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์˜ค, ํ•จ๊ป˜.
13:50
Vanessa: I think it would be fun, too, yeah.
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Vanessa: ์ €๋„ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
13:51
We like to cook together, but we often don't get a chance to cook together because one
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
13:54
of us is watching the kids while the other is cooking.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ข…์ข… ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
13:56
So I think it would be lovely, a very realistic day, minus some of the children things, too.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‚ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ธ ๋‚ ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ์ผ๋„ ๋นผ๋ฉด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
14:04
Yeah.
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์‘.
14:05
They're playing nicely and happy and we cook together and they go to bed so peacefully.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ณ  ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋†€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์š”๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„์ฃผ ํ‰ํ™”๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ž ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:10
And in the evening, we play our favorite board game, which is Carcassonne.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋…์—๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณด๋“œ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ธ ์นด๋ฅด์นด์†(Carcassonne)์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:14
Dan: Oh, okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
14:15
Vanessa: And I win.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒผ์–ด.
14:16
Dan: Oh, come on.
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค, ์–ด์„œ.
14:18
Vanessa: Perfect day.
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Vanessa: ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๋‚ ์ด์•ผ.
14:19
Dan: Wow.
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๋Œ„: ์™€.
14:20
That's a very humble perfect day.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒธ์†ํ•œ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๋‚ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:23
Vanessa: Yeah?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค?
14:24
Dan: You don't even go anywhere.
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๋Œ„: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋ฌด๋ฐ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:25
Vanessa: Oh, we go hiking.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:26
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
14:27
Well, we go somewhere.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ๊ฐ„๋‹ค.
14:28
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
14:29
What about you?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”?
14:30
What's the perfect day for you?
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๋‚ ์€ ์–ธ์ œ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
14:31
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
14:32
Well, mine is- Vanessa: I have a feeling it's a little more
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์€- Vanessa: ์ข€ ๋”
14:33
extravagant.
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์‚ฌ์น˜์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์–ด.
14:34
Dan: ... a little bit, yeah maybe a little bit more.
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Dan: ...์กฐ๊ธˆ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜ ์•„๋งˆ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋”.
14:35
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
14:36
Dan: So we'd be traveling somewhere.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€๋กœ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:38
So say Japan.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ๋ณธ์„ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:39
I've been having like a itch to go visit Japan, but I know it's not going to happen for a
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ๋ณธ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๊ฐ„์ ˆํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
14:44
long time because it's far away and we have little kids.
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๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
14:48
So you have one of those like perfect travel days where you're not too tired.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์—ฌํ–‰์ผ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:54
You do something really interesting.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:56
So maybe we see- Vanessa: A temple.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”- Vanessa: ์‚ฌ์›.
14:59
Dan: Well, I love nature, so some of my favorite hikes in South Korea were going up mountains
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•˜์ดํ‚น ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š”
15:04
by like old walls, old city walls, some kind of hike like that.
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์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์„ฑ๋ฒฝ, ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์„ฑ๋ฒฝ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‚ฐ์„ ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค.
15:09
And it's beautiful weather.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋‚ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:10
And we stop by a delicious restaurant and I'd be with our kids.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ง›์žˆ๋Š” ์‹๋‹น์— ๋“ค๋Ÿฌ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:15
Our kids would be older and everybody would be having a great time.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:18
They would also be holding my arm and say, "Thanks, Dad, for sending us here.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋‚ด ํŒ”์„ ์žก๊ณ  "์•„๋น , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:23
It's great.
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ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:24
We love it."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:25
And everybody would give me a kiss, my children and my wife that is, and all the Japanese
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ํ‚ค์Šค๋ฅผ ํ•ด์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์•„์ด๋“ค ๊ณผ ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“ 
15:31
people, too.
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์ผ๋ณธ์ธ๋“ค๋„์š”.
15:32
And then we'd jump on a dragon and fly off into the sky.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฉ์„ ํƒ€๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š˜๋กœ ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:36
Vanessa: Wow.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™€.
15:37
That was really amazing.
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์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:39
Dan: And that's my perfect day.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์˜ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๋‚ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:43
Vanessa: Especially the dragon part.
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Vanessa: ํŠนํžˆ ์šฉ ๋ถ€๋ถ„.
15:46
Okay.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
15:47
Well, maybe I've had a couple sips of port too much, but that was a wonderful day.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํฌํŠธ ์™€์ธ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋งˆ์…จ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋‚ ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
15:51
All right, let's go to our next question.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค.
15:53
Our next question is a little more serious and it is what questions do you think that
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ข€ ๋” ์ง„์ง€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:59
partners should ask each other before getting married?
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ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
16:03
So we've been married for 10 years.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•œ ์ง€ 10๋…„์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:05
Dan: Whoa.
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๋Œ„: ์™€.
16:06
Vanessa: 10, almost 10 and a half years.
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Vanessa: 10์‚ด, ๊ฑฐ์˜ 10๋…„ ๋ฐ˜.
16:08
Dan: Would you believe it, internet?
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Dan: ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท, ๋ฏฟ์œผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
16:09
Vanessa: I know.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•Œ์•„์š”.
16:10
It's amazing.
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๋†€๋ž๋‹ค.
16:11
So we have a little experience, not as much experience as a lot of people who've been
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:16
married a lot longer than us, but what do you think?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋งŒํผ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”?
16:19
Yeah.
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์‘.
16:20
What's some things that couples should ask each other?
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๋ถ€๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
16:23
Dan: Just one question or there's just one question.
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Dan: ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋งŒ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:26
Vanessa: What questions.
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Vanessa: ๋ฌด์Šจ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด์š”.
16:27
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
16:28
Vanessa: Don't say all of them because I have to answer, too.
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Vanessa: ๋‚˜๋„ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋‹ค ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ .
16:30
Dan: Well, I would probably start with, "If you're thinking about marriage, do you want
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ " ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
16:36
children?"
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์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:37
Vanessa: Hmm.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ .
16:38
Dan: There you go.
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๋Œ„: ์ €๊ธฐ์š”.
16:39
And, "How many kids do you want?"
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  "์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์„ธ์š”?"
16:40
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
16:41
Dan: Because if one person wants zero and one person wants one or any variation of that,
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Dan: ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ 0์„ ์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ณ€ํ˜•์„ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
16:46
it's usually if somebody doesn't want any kids, then that could be a brick wall where
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
16:50
you don't want to go any further.
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ฒฝ๋Œ ๋ฒฝ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:51
Vanessa: We call that a deal-breaker- Dan: A deal-breaker.
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ ์ฐจ๋‹จ๊ธฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ ์ฐจ๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:53
Vanessa: ... a deal-breaker.
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Vanessa: ... ๋”œ ๋ธŒ๋ ˆ์ด์ปค.
16:54
Yep.
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๋„ค.
16:55
Dan: And then number two would be money, like, what's your money expectations, who's going
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋ˆ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜, ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€
17:00
to work, when, how much are they going to work.
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์ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€, ์–ธ์ œ, ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:02
Vanessa: Ah, like how much money are you going to make?
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Vanessa: ์•„, ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
17:04
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
17:05
Vanessa: Those expectations?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€?
17:06
Dan: Or even how much you spend on stuff?
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Dan: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๋‚˜์š”?
17:09
Like, what's your goals financially?
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์žฌ์ •์  ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:11
Do you have financial goals, period?
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์žฌ์ •์  ๋ชฉํ‘œ, ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:13
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
17:14
Dan: That's what your dad asked me.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค ์•„๋น ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณธ ๊ฑฐ์ž–์•„.
17:16
Vanessa: And when did you say?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ธ์ œ ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€?
17:17
Dan: I said, "I don't know, sir."
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Dan: "์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜."
17:19
Vanessa: But you know what?
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„?
17:20
That's one of our communication things that we have communicated and step-by-step grown
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ
17:26
together and figured it out.
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„ ๋‚ธ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆ์ผ€์ด์…˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:28
Dan: And I left you with the harder ones.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‚จ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:29
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
17:30
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
17:31
Do you have anything after that?
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๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์— ํ•  ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:32
Vanessa: I think that it's kind of connected to yours.
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Vanessa: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:34
The first one is, I think it's really important to talk about your expectations for your roles,
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์—ญํ• , ํŠนํžˆ ์„ฑ ์—ญํ• ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:41
specifically gender roles.
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.
17:44
And a lot of us maybe have parents who have a traditional gender role situation where
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
17:53
the father goes to work and the mother stays with the children, but for our generation,
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ง์žฅ์— ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ์„ฑ์—ญํ•  ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์„ธ๋Œ€์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
17:59
it's not exactly always like that.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:01
There's a lot of variations of that.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ€ํ˜•์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:03
So for us, we both take care of our children and we both teach you English and work on
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ 
18:08
this English teaching business.
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์ด ์˜์–ด ๊ต์œก ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:09
So our life is a lot different than what our parents traditionally had.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ถ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:14
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
18:15
Vanessa: So I think that it would be important to talk about what do you expect me to do?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:20
What do you expect you to do?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
18:22
What do I expect of myself?
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€?
18:23
And then, in different stages of life, when we have kids, what do we expect to do?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ถ์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
18:29
If we're going to have kids, what do we expect?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
18:31
So I think that those roles in general are good to talk about.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์—ญํ• ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:34
But even more specifically, I remember when we first got married, this might be a little
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋ง์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ
18:38
strong to say, but one of the best things we did was just to say, "I do the dishes,
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๊ฐ•ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” "๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์„ค๊ฒ†์ด๋ฅผํ•˜๊ณ 
18:46
you do the laundry."
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋นจ๋ž˜๋ฅผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:47
Like this is so simple.
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:48
Dan: Clear separation.
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๋Œ„: ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌ.
18:49
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
18:50
But just having a really clear delegation of this is my task, this is your task.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์œ„์ž„์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ ์ž„๋ฌด์ด๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ž„๋ฌด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:54
And we're still working on that because every stage in life is a little bit different.
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์ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์† ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:59
But I think that having this accepted and talked about role is really important instead
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ์—ญํ• ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
19:05
of just assuming, "Oh yeah, she's going to do it.
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"์˜ค ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:08
Oh yeah.
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ.
19:09
He's going to do that."
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ ์— ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:10
No, you should talk about it because it's always evolving and changing.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ง„ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
19:13
So yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜.
19:14
I think you should talk about your roles.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:15
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
19:16
Let's talk about our next question.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
19:17
Dan: The next question is your house catches on fire and you are running out the door and
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Dan: ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง‘์— ๋ถˆ์ด ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฌธ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋›ฐ์ณ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š”๋ฐ
19:23
you can only grab one thing.
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ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡
19:25
What would it be and why?
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์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
19:26
Vanessa: I think that there's more to this question.
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Vanessa: ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
19:28
Dan: Is there?
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๋Œ„: ์žˆ์–ด์š”?
19:29
Vanessa: It says after saving your loved ones and all of your pets, you can make a final-
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Vanessa: ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋“  ์• ์™„ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ๊ตฌํ•œ ํ›„์— ์ตœ์ข… ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:34
Dan: That's a given.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‹น์—ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:35
Vanessa: ... a final dash into your house safely.
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Vanessa: ...๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋Œ์ง„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
19:38
So we want to exclude all of these situations.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ์ œํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:41
Your kids are safe.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:42
Your loved ones are safe.
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:43
Your pets are safe and you can safely get something else.
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์• ์™„ ๋™๋ฌผ์€ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
19:47
What would it be?
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๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋ ๊นŒ?
19:48
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
19:49
Everybody else is out of the house already- Vanessa: Yeah, yeah.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ง‘ ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”- Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ.
19:51
Dan: ... including your little cat and dog and your fish.
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๋Œ„: ... ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ž‘์€ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด์™€ ๊ฐœ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ์š”.
19:54
Vanessa: Yes, so what is, basically we're talking about an item, what is something that
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:58
you would grab.
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.
19:59
Oh boy.
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์˜ค ์†Œ๋…„.
20:02
I think for some reason, my first instinct with this question is to say in our closet
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์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ์—์„œ์ธ์ง€ ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‚˜์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ณธ๋Šฅ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์˜ท์žฅ์—
20:08
there is a box of my pictures from growing up, of my journals from growing up.
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„๊ณผ ์ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ด๊ธด ์ƒ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
20:17
Yeah.
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์‘.
20:18
These kind of personal mementos and it's all in one box.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ƒ์ž์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:23
So maybe it's kind of cheating because I can take the whole box.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์ž ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์†์ž„์ˆ˜์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
20:27
But I think that maybe I would take this.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:29
I don't know in reality what I would actually grab.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์žก์„์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:32
I'd probably grab something random, like a house plant that I don't care about.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ง‘ ์‹๋ฌผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ž„์˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žก์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:36
I think in that moment of panic, you'd probably do something not rational.
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๊ทธ ๊ณตํฌ์˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:39
Dan: Can your phone be considered a loved one?
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์ฃผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
20:42
Because I just automatically grab that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž๋™์œผ๋กœ ์žก๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—.
20:44
Vanessa: Is your phone a loved one?
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Vanessa: ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
20:46
Dan: Well, I mean, if I'm only going to grab one thing-
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Dan: ์Œ, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ ์žก์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด-
20:50
Vanessa: At the table and- Dan: ... like the second I get out of bed,
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Vanessa: ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ - Dan: ... ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์นจ๋Œ€์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ,
20:53
my hand would just grab the phone.
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๋‚ด ์†์€ ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์žก์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:55
I don't think it counts.
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์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:56
Vanessa: So are you saying that like- Dan: We're excluding our phone.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:59
Vanessa: ... if your phone is a loved one, that at the family table, you have a chair
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Vanessa: ... ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๊ฐ€์กฑ ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์—
21:03
for you, a chair for your wife, a chair for your kid and a chair for your phone, because
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์˜์ž, ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์˜์ž, ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์˜์ž, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์˜์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
21:07
it's a loved one?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
21:08
Dan: Yeah, in the baby chair.
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Dan: ์‘, ์•„๊ธฐ ์˜์ž์—์„œ.
21:09
Vanessa: In the baby chair, okay.
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Vanessa: ์•„๊ธฐ ์˜์ž์—์„œ, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
21:11
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
21:12
Dan: Anyway.
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๋Œ„: ์–ด์จŒ๋“ .
21:13
Vanessa: So what would you bring if you- Dan: Besides my phone?
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan: ๋‚ด ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ ์™ธ์—?
21:16
Vanessa: Besides your phone, I guess.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ „ํ™” ๋ง๊ณ ๋„์š”.
21:18
Dan: Okay.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
21:19
Vanessa: What would you take?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ญ˜ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
21:20
Dan: Well, so I'd probably be pretty practical.
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฝค ์‹ค์šฉ์ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:22
I think I'd grab a box full of hard drives, external hard drives.
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ํ•˜๋“œ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ, ์™ธ์žฅ ํ•˜๋“œ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐฌ ์ƒ์ž๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:27
Vanessa: Oh, okay.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
21:28
Dan: Because we have all Vanessa's old videos that are not backed up on the internet and
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Dan: ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ๋ฐฑ์—…๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ Vanessa์˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค์™€
21:34
all kinds of pictures that we don't have anywhere.
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์–ด๋””์—๋„ ์—†๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:37
Vanessa: That's true.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:38
Dan: And it's digital, but it's not on the cloud.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋“œ์—๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:40
I wouldn't probably even grab a computer now because most of the stuff is online in some
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ƒํƒœ
21:46
way or easily re-accessed.
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์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์•ก์„ธ์Šคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:47
Vanessa: Oh, like you can get your pictures on Google Photos, but the pictures-
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, Google ํฌํ† ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์ง„์€-
21:51
Dan: Not some of our old pictures.
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์‚ฌ์ง„์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:53
Vanessa: ... pictures that are on the hard drive, you can't get.
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Vanessa: ... ํ•˜๋“œ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ง„์€ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:55
Dan: All of our pictures from South Korea.
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์ง„์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ.
21:56
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
21:57
All of that kind of stuff.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ.
21:58
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
21:59
Vanessa: Which kind of makes me think maybe we should back that up.
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:00
Dan: Yeah, maybe we should, yeah.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ํ• ๊ฑฐ์•ผ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
22:01
Maybe, yeah.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
22:02
Vanessa: Maybe we should put it in the cloud somewhere or think about that.
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Vanessa: ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋“œ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ๋‘๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:04
Yeah.
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์‘. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค€
22:05
Well, thank you YouTube video for making us think about that.
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YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
22:06
Dan: My phone already ran out the door, so don't worry about-
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Dan: ๋‚ด ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฌธ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์œผ๋‹ˆ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
22:09
Vanessa: Okay.
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:10
Dan: ... him or her?
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๋Œ„: ... ๊ทธ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€?
22:11
Vanessa: Your loved one?
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Vanessa: ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ?
22:12
Dan: They.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋“ค์€.
22:13
Vanessa: Oh, all right.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
22:14
Let's go to our next question.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:16
The next question is a more personal one and it is what is something that most people would
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ข€ ๋” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
22:22
find surprising about you?
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๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋†€๋ผ์›Œํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
22:25
And when I say most people, I'm talking about people who are watching here.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:30
So those of you who are watching this video, you've probably learned a lot about us personally
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์˜์–ด๋„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ์˜์–ด ๋ ˆ์Šจ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐฐ์› ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:36
by watching these English lessons, even though you're also learning English.
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.
22:40
But what do you think is something that our students would find surprising about you?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋†€๋ž„๋งŒํ•œ ์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
22:44
Dan: Yeah, I think it would probably be that I can occasionally be a little bit, I don't,
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”
22:52
depressive is strong, but I can be somber or melodramatic perhaps.
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.
22:59
Vanessa: Ah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•„.
23:00
Yeah.
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์‘.
23:01
There's ebbs and flows in life.
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์ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ์ฐ๋ฌผ๊ณผ ์ฐ๋ฌผ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:02
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
23:03
Vanessa: And sometimes on those downs you can be more sad.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์šฐ์šธํ•จ ์†์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋” ์Šฌํ”Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:06
Dan: Probably more in my teens and 20s though.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋งˆ 10๋Œ€์™€ 20๋Œ€์—๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
23:09
Since I've hit 30, I'm just stable as a rock, as a boat in a still sea.
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30์„ ์ณค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž”์ž”ํ•œ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค์˜ ๋ฐฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ฐ”์œ„์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์•ˆ์ •์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
23:16
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
23:17
Yeah.
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์‘.
23:18
I think that just shows, too, though that everybody has different sides of themselves
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฉด์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
23:23
and is a real human- Dan: Yeah.
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์žˆ๊ณ  ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์ธ๊ฐ„์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
23:25
Vanessa: ... not just a silly, happy all the time, very normal.
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Vanessa: ... ๋ฐ”๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„์ฃผ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:30
Dan: I certainly present myself as very silly.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฐ”๋ณด๋กœ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:33
I mean, I enjoy being silly and I'm actually generally a happy person, but I even kind
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋ณด์ง“์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
23:37
of revel in sadness a little bit.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์Šฌํ””๋„ ์ฆ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:40
Like I like to listen to sad songs a lot.
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์Šฌํ”ˆ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
23:42
And I like to just like think and like be sad-
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์Šฌํผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:46
Vanessa: Just as an example- Dan: ... be like not grumpy, just, yeah.
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.
23:50
I don't really know the right, it's not quite sadness.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„์ฃผ ์Šฌํ””์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:53
It's more just like- Vanessa: Blue.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ- Vanessa: Blue.
23:55
Dan: ... dramatic or blue.
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Dan: ...๊ทน์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰.
23:56
Yes.
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์˜ˆ.
23:57
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
23:58
Just as an example, Dan likes to create playlists, which are kind of like different songs that
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด Dan์€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ทธ๋ฃนํ™”๋˜์–ด ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ž˜์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์žฌ์ƒ ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:05
he can listen to that are grouped together.
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24:07
And one of his playlists is songs for feeling blue.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์˜ ์žฌ์ƒ ๋ชฉ๋ก ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ์šธํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ž˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
24:13
So when Dan is feeling a little sad, he likes to listen to sad music.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Dan์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์Šฌํ”Œ ๋•Œ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:16
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
24:17
Vanessa: And this is- Dan: Or even when I'm feeling happy, honestly.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€- Dan: ๋˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚„ ๋•Œ์—๋„, ์†”์งํžˆ.
24:19
Vanessa: Really?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ •๋ง์š”?
24:20
Dan: Sure.
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
24:21
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
24:22
This is absolutely not like me.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์™€๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:23
Dan: I love sad music.
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๋Œ„: ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์Œ์•…์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”.
24:24
Vanessa: I am not like that at all.
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Vanessa: ๋‚œ ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•„.
24:26
When I feel sad, I'm trying to do everything possible to get rid of the sadness, not to
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์Šฌํ”Œ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์Šฌํ””์„ ์—†์• ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•œ๋‹ค
24:32
kind of be in that moment.
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.
24:33
Dan: I'm not sure I've ever seen you sad.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์Šฌํผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด.
24:35
Vanessa: Really?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ •๋ง์š”?
24:36
Dan: I mean, not often.
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Dan: ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ž์ฃผ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:37
Vanessa: Yeah, I guess so.
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
24:38
Dan: We've been married 10 years.
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•œ ์ง€ 10๋…„์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:39
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
24:40
I think there's been- Dan: She's not a low person at all.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”- Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:42
Vanessa: There's been very few times where- Dan: I mean, you could probably tell.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์•„๋งˆ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:45
Vanessa: ... it's kind of stayed in my life.
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
24:47
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
24:48
Vanessa: Usually it's just a moment or like it's usually more-
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Vanessa: ๋ณดํ†ต์€ ์ž ์‹œ๋งŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ณดํ†ต ์€ ๋”-
24:51
Dan: Usually when you drink wine.
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Dan: ๋ณดํ†ต ์™€์ธ์„ ๋งˆ์‹ค ๋•Œ์š”.
24:53
Vanessa: Uh-oh.
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Vanessa: ์–ด-์˜ค.
24:54
Am I going to be- Dan: That's the only times I can really remember
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”- ๋Œ„: ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€-
24:57
you saying- Vanessa: Am I going to be blue?
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์šฐ์šธํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
24:58
Dan: ... "I feel like bummed," or sad or something.
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๋Œ„: ... "๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„." ๋˜๋Š” ์Šฌํ”„๋‹ค.
25:00
Vanessa: Ah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•„.
25:01
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
25:02
Vanessa: Sometimes red wine especially makes me feel a little bummed, but how I would answer
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Vanessa: ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋ ˆ๋“œ ์™€์ธ์€ ํŠนํžˆ ์ €๋ฅผ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์†์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
25:06
this question, something that you might find surprising about me, is that I think that
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์ €์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋†€๋ผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ ์€ ์ €๋Š”
25:11
I have a pretty strong nihilistic streak.
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๊ฝค ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜์  ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:16
This is- Dan: But she's a very happy nihilist.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€- Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:18
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
25:19
So nihilism kind of means that you think it's all pointless.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:24
There's no meaning.
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์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:25
Why would this matter?
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์™œ ์ค‘์š”ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
25:27
And kind of the feeling that there's no hope.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฌ๋ง์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ.
25:29
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
25:30
If I get charged up about politics or something, she just kind of shrugs her shoulders.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •์น˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ๋กœ ๊ณ ๋ฐœ๋‹นํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ์–ด๊นจ๋ฅผ ์œผ์“ฑํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:33
Vanessa: Right.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋งž์•„.
25:34
Well, it's all, of course it's not going to work.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:35
Of course everyone's corrupt.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€ํŒจํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
25:36
Dan: Yeah, the sun's going to die eventually.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํƒœ์–‘์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ฃฝ์„๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
25:38
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
25:39
Nothing's going to happen like this kind of negative outlook, but at the same time-
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์˜ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ์‹œ์„ ์€ ์—†์„ ํ…Œ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋™์‹œ์—-
25:44
Dan: She's more cynical than you would expect.
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๋Œ„: ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ด์•ผ.
25:45
Vanessa: It doesn't make me feel depressed to think like that.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์šฐ์šธํ•ด์ง€์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•„์š”.
25:49
I try to find some hope in nihilism.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜์—์„œ ํฌ๋ง์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•œ๋‹ค.
25:54
Dan: Maybe Zen is a better word, yeah.
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Dan: ์•„๋งˆ๋„ Zen์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋‹จ์–ด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:56
Vanessa: Maybe by saying that- Dan: Like a Buddhist kind of approach.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ- Dan: ๋ถˆ๊ต์‹ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
26:00
Vanessa: ... if, for example, if I feel like there's some big world concept that is potentially
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Vanessa: ... ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ž ์žฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ง์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ํฐ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ฐœ๋…์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚€๋‹ค๋ฉด
26:07
going to ruin the world, I don't know.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:09
It's the year 2020.
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2020๋…„์ด๋‹ค.
26:10
There has been many things like this.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์•˜๋‹ค.
26:12
Dan: We're going down, folks.
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Dan: ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
26:13
Vanessa: Many things that have happened this year where everyone feels like the world is
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Vanessa: ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ๋๋‚œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:17
ending.
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.
26:18
But for me I feel like, "Okay, well, if everything bad happens, the best thing I can do is to
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” "์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚˜์œ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์„ ์˜ ์ผ์€
26:26
maintain a positive family.
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๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:30
And if my family is doing something positive, the rest of the world might be going down,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ์„ธ์ƒ์€ ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์งˆ ์ˆ˜
26:38
but this is my small circle of influence."
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ ์ž‘์€ ์˜ํ–ฅ๋ ฅ์˜ ์›์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
26:40
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
26:41
Vanessa: "And I can influence this small circle and that's about it."
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Vanessa: "๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด ์ž‘์€ ์›์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
26:45
So I feel, yeah, so sometimes I can feel nihilistic.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜์ ์ธ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด์š”.
26:46
Dan: But you're influencing them out there.
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:48
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
26:49
But I think that- Dan: Maybe a little bit?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”- Dan: ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์€์š”?
26:50
I don't know.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:51
Vanessa: We have much more influence on our family than we do on people on the internet.
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ƒ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์กฑ์—๊ฒŒ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
26:58
Dan: She doesn't do this YouTube thing for influence necessarily.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ผญ ์˜ํ–ฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด YouTube๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:03
Vanessa: No.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
27:04
If I could do it anonymously, that would be nice.
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์ต๋ช…์œผ๋กœ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
27:07
Like I said, I want a private life.
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๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค.
27:09
Dan: You do want to help people, though- Vanessa: Yeah.
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Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋•๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ- Vanessa: ๋„ค.
27:10
Dan: ... but it's like not in the influence kind of way, if you know what I mean, lifestyle.
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Dan: ...ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ๋ง์˜ ๋œป์„ ์•ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ผ์ดํ”„์Šคํƒ€์ผ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:15
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
27:16
Well, needless to say, I do have a nihilistic streak in me, even though I do feel generally
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋งํ•  ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์ด ์ €๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
27:22
pretty positive.
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๊ฝค ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์ง€๋งŒ ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ—ˆ๋ฌดํ•œ ์ผ์ด ๋งŽ์•„๋„
27:23
I think I can maintain positivity even though I do feel nihilistic about a lot of things.
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๊ธ์ •์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค .
27:29
All right, let's go to our next question.
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค.
27:30
Dan: The next question is if you could wake up tomorrow and gain one quality or ability,
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Dan: ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‚ด์ผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์„œ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ž์งˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
27:37
what would it be?
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๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
27:38
Vanessa: Hmm.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ .
27:39
It might be a little selfish to say this because it's not one quality, but one ability that
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์ž์งˆ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
27:45
I would like to have, can I choose something magical?
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๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋งˆ๋ฒ• ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š” ?
27:47
Dan: Hmm.
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๋Œ„: ํ .
27:48
Okay.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
27:49
Yeah.
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์‘.
27:50
Vanessa: Is I would love- Dan: There are no rules here.
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€- Dan: ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทœ์น™์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:52
Vanessa: Okay.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
27:53
I would love to be able to snap my fingers and our family would appear in a different
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์„ ํŠ•๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ„์น˜์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:59
location.
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.
28:00
Dan: Whoa.
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๋Œ„: ์™€.
28:01
Oh, like- Vanessa: This means that there is no need
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์˜ค, ๊ฐ™์€- Vanessa: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:02
for travel.
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.
28:03
Dan: ... teleportation.
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๋Œ„: ... ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด๋™.
28:04
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
28:05
We could instantly, boom, be in Tokyo.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฆ‰์‹œ, ๋ถ, ๋„์ฟ„์— ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:07
Boom, be in Rio de Janeiro.
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๋ถ, ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋ฐ์ž๋„ค์ด๋ฃจ์— ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
28:09
Boom, be at my parents' house.
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๋ถ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜ ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์–ด.
28:11
Boom, be at your parents' house.
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๋ถ, ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜ ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์–ด.
28:13
Oh, wouldn't it be amazing.
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์˜ค, ๋†€๋ž์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
28:14
Dan: Your parents' house.
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๋Œ„: ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜ ์ง‘.
28:15
Vanessa: Your parents' house.
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Vanessa: ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜ ์ง‘์ด์š”.
28:16
It would be so great because just that travel process.
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๊ทธ ์—ฌํ–‰ ๊ณผ์ •๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์„ ํ…๋ฐ .
28:20
I love, like we said, we like to travel and go places and have adventures, but sometimes
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ชจํ—˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
28:25
the travel part of it, sometimes we say travel is a curse.
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์—ฌํ–‰ ๋ถ€๋ถ„, ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰์ด ์ €์ฃผ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:29
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
28:30
Vanessa: We love to be there, but we don't like to get there.
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:32
Dan: I mean, it could be kind of fun.
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๋Œ„: ์ œ ๋ง์€, ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
28:33
But planning for traveling is not fun.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์—ฌํ–‰ ๊ณ„ํš์€ ์ฆ๊ฒ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:35
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
28:36
I'm sure there's plenty of other things that I would actually really like to do if I had
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28:40
a genie with a magic lamp and I could gain one quality or ability, but this is the first
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์š”์ˆ  ๋žจํ”„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ง€๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ž์งˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ •๋ง ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ผ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ
28:46
thing that came to my mind.
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๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:47
And also I drank a couple sips of this wine, port, so that was my answer.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํฌํŠธ ์™€์ธ์„ ๋ช‡ ๋ชจ๊ธˆ ๋งˆ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:52
Dan: So, she wants to teleport to the wine shop.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์™€์ธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๋กœ ํ…”๋ ˆํฌํŠธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
28:54
Vanessa: No, I don't.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
28:55
We probably drink- Dan: Is that what you do when you teleport?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค- Dan: ํ…”๋ ˆํฌํŠธํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
28:58
Vanessa: I probably drink alcohol maybe once a month, maybe less.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋งˆ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
29:05
Dan: Yeah, once a month is about right.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ์ ๋‹นํ•ด์š”.
29:06
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
29:07
Maybe one glass of wine once a month, so they might say I'm a lightweight.
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ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„ ์™€์ธ ํ•œ ์ž”์„ ๋งˆ์‹ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์šด ์ฒด์งˆ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:11
What about you?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”? ๊ฐ–๊ณ 
29:12
What is one quality or ability that you would like to have?
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์‹ถ์€ ์ž์งˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
29:16
Dan: Hmm.
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๋Œ„: ํ .
29:17
So I was thinking about this and first I thought invisibility.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:20
It's kind of cliche, but- Vanessa: Classic.
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์ง„๋ถ€ํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์ด์ง€๋งŒ- Vanessa: ํด๋ž˜์‹.
29:23
Dan: ... I think I would rather have, probably a lot of you have watched Star Wars.
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Dan: ... ์•„๋งˆ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์…จ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:28
Do you remember in the original Star Wars where Ben Kenobi walks up to the Stormtrooper
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์˜ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋„ ์Šคํƒ€์›Œ์ฆˆ์—์„œ ๋ฒค ์ผ€๋…ธ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์Šคํ†ฐํŠธ๋ฃจํผ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ
29:34
and says, and he like waves his hand and basically hypnotizes them and just like kind of makes
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
29:39
them do what he wants.
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29:40
Vanessa: Oh, my Gosh.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ.
29:41
Dan: "We are not the travelers you're looking for."
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๋Œ„: "์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฐพ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰์ž๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ."
29:43
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
29:44
He says something like that.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:45
Dan: That thing.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์š”.
29:46
"You will let me into the building."
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"๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋ณด๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
29:48
I would do that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
29:50
Vanessa: You already said you want to be king.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์™•์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:51
You want to have influence, now you want people to do what you want.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜ํ–ฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ์ด์ œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:55
Dan: No, it's not that I want to trick them.
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์†์ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ.
29:57
It's that I want to find out things.
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์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:59
I would go to the White House and I would go to the guards and I'd be like, "I belong
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐฑ์•…๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฒฝ๋น„์›์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์„œ "๋‚˜๋Š”
30:02
here."
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์†Œ์†์ด์•ผ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:03
And then I would go into- Vanessa: In my cat sweater, I belong here.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ €๋Š”- Vanessa: ๋‚ด ๊ณ ์–‘์ด ์Šค์›จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ž…๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์†ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:06
Dan: ... the White House and I'd go up to Donald Trump for now.
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Dan: ...๋ฐฑ์•…๊ด€๊ณผ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น๋ถ„๊ฐ„ ๋„๋„๋“œ ํŠธ๋Ÿผํ”„์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:09
Eventually it will be Joe Biden, I guess, or whoever.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ Joe Biden์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
30:13
I don't know.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:14
And I'd be like, "I belong here."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:15
Vanessa: Tell me all your secrets.
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
30:16
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
30:18
"You will tell me what you're really thinking."
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"๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•ด ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
30:20
Or I'd go up to like a CIA agent or something.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด CIA ์š”์›์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:23
"You will show me your secret vaults."
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"๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋น„๋ฐ€ ๊ธˆ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
30:26
And then I would have all the knowledge and then knowledge is power.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ง€์‹์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์ง€์‹์€ ํž˜์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:29
Vanessa: And you would rule the world.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ์ง€๋ฐฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:31
Dan: No, I'd be like a journalist kind of guy.
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Dan: ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค, ์ €๋Š” ์ €๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:34
I'd reveal it to the world.
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์„ธ์ƒ์— ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:35
Unless what I found was so dangerous, which I assume there's probably something super
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํ•œ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
30:39
dangerous out there.
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.
30:40
Then I'd be like, "Nevermind.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ €๋Š” "์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
30:41
I'm not sharing this with the world."
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ธ์ƒ๊ณผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
30:43
And everybody would go crazy.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ์ณ ๋ฒ„๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:45
Vanessa: Aha.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•„ํ•˜.
30:46
Dan: Which is probably what they're thinking.
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Dan: ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:47
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
30:48
Dan: See, this is where my mind goes.
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Dan: ๋ณด์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:49
Vanessa: So I think we're kind of different on this.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
30:52
Dan: So, maybe instant hypnotism.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ฆ‰๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์ตœ๋ฉด.
30:53
Hypnotism.
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์ตœ๋ฉด์ˆ .
30:54
Vanessa: Oh.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
30:56
As long as you are someone using your powers for good.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํž˜์„ ์„ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด.
30:59
Dan: I would use it for good, guys.
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Dan: ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:00
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
31:01
Because there's also a lot of bad that can be done in that situation.
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๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์ผ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:05
Dan: That's true.
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๋Œ„: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:06
"You will off the building."
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"๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์„ ๋– ๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
31:07
Vanessa: "You will give me all of your money."
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Vanessa: "๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ˆ์„ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
31:09
Dan: Oh, yeah.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
31:10
I didn't even think of that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค.
31:11
Vanessa: Good.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:12
That's good.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
31:13
Dan: That's how you know I'd use my power for good.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ํž˜์„ ์˜์›ํžˆ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ค„ ์•„๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด์•ผ .
31:15
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
31:16
Let's go to our last question.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:18
Our final question is what do you feel the most grateful for in life?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
31:24
Dan: I have only cliche answers for this, but they're cliche because they're true.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ง„๋ถ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง„๋ถ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:30
I am very grateful that I have a fantastic, amazing wife.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ด๊ณ  ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
31:37
Yeah, you guys have no idea.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋„ˆํฌ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค.
31:38
Although you might have an idea.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ.
31:40
Hmm.
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ํ .
31:41
And healthy children, great children, fantastic children, fantastic baby.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋“ค, ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์•„์ด๋“ค, ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ์•„์ด๋“ค, ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค.
31:48
And good health myself.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
31:49
There you go.
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์ž.
31:50
Vanessa: That's great.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๋„ค์š”.
31:51
Dan: That's the trifecta.
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:52
Vanessa: Hmm.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ .
31:53
Yeah.
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์‘.
31:54
Well, I was thinking those things- Dan: And then she thought.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด- ๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
31:57
Vanessa: Of course, I have a wonderful husband and children, but I also think that-
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Vanessa: ๋ฌผ๋ก , ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋‚จํŽธ ๊ณผ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ...
32:02
Dan: She loves our minivan.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ๋ฐด์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:03
Vanessa: It is this Christmas tree.
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Vanessa: ์ด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:05
I'm just kidding.
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์žฅ๋‚œ์ด์•ผ.
32:06
It's not that Christmas tree.
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๊ทธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:08
I think that something that kind of brings all of this together is I'm very extremely
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋กœ ๋ชจ์œผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
32:14
grateful for our job.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:17
Dan: I was going to say you guys.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ˆํฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด.
32:18
Vanessa: Well, you were highly included in that because without you, we wouldn't have
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ํฌ๊ฒŒ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
32:23
a job teaching English.
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.
32:24
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
32:25
Vanessa: But I think it's true that yes, we can have a great husband or kids or health,
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋‚จํŽธ์ด๋‚˜ ์ž๋…€๋‚˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜
32:31
but if you can't spend time together, then it's kind of sad, right?
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ข€ ์Šฌํ”„์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€?
32:34
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
32:35
Vanessa: So because of this job, we can work from home.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์ผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:38
We can work for ourselves, If it's a beautiful day outside, we throw away work and go outside
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๊นฅ ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์œผ๋ฉด ์ผ์„ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ
32:44
and go for a hike.
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ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:45
If it's raining or an awful day outside, we do work.
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๋น„๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๋‚ ์ด๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:48
So it's so flexible that, thanks to you, that we can really spend time together.
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๋•๋ถ„์— ์ •๋ง ์œ ์—ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:54
And that's what I love to do the most.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:56
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
32:57
Vanessa: So being able to have this kind of open-ended lifestyle, where we're doing something
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ œํ•œ ์—†๋Š” ๋ผ์ดํ”„์Šคํƒ€์ผ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:02
that we like, something creative, where at 9:00 PM, 10:00 PM at night, we can sit in
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33:09
front of our Christmas tree and drink wine and ask silly questions to each other and
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๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์‹ฌ๊ณ  ์™€์ธ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ  ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด
33:15
I hope you watch it, but we get to do that.
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์ง€์ผœ๋ด ์ฃผ์…จ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:18
And we also get to, because of that, we also get to spend time with each other.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์„œ๋กœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:22
So I think that I'm really grateful for this job.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์ง์—…์ด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š” .
33:24
So, thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:25
Dan: Yeah.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
33:26
Vanessa: Thank you everyone.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:27
I'm grateful for you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:28
Dan: And none of this would be possible without the internet.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ์—†์ด๋Š” ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
33:29
Vanessa: Yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
33:30
Dan: So, really we should be grateful for the internet.
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
33:32
Vanessa: Wow.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™€.
33:33
Thank you, internet.
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท.
33:34
Yes.
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์˜ˆ.
33:35
Dan: Thank you, internet.
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๋Œ„: ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท.
33:36
Vanessa: So on that note, I would like to thank you so much for watching this conversation
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ 
33:39
and thank you, Dan, for joining me.
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Dan์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:41
Dan: You're welcome.
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๋Œ„: ์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”.
33:42
I hope it wasn't too crazy.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ง“์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:44
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
33:45
I hope this is interesting and useful to you for vocabulary, for grammar, for your listening
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ดํœ˜, ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•, ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ
33:50
skills.
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๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ณ  ์œ ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:52
If you would like to take your listening skills to the next level, maybe you watched this
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๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด
33:56
conversation and you thought, "Yeah, I understand Dan and Vanessa pretty well, but I can't understand
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๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  "๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚˜๋Š” Dan๊ณผ Vanessa๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
34:02
movies and TV shows.
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์˜ํ™”์™€ TV ์‡ผ๋Š” ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด.
34:04
I can understand them, but I can't understand other people."
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์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด ."
34:06
Well, I have some good news.
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์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:09
I would like to invite you to join us in our course, the 30 Day English Listening Challenge.
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์ €ํฌ ์ฝ”์Šค์ธ 30์ผ ์˜์–ด ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ์ฑŒ๋ฆฐ์ง€์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:17
On December 22nd, we are going to be opening the Pack 5 of the Listening Challenge, which
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12์›” 22์ผ, 5๋…„ ์—ฐ์† ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋‹ ์ฑŒ๋ฆฐ์ง€ ํŒฉ 5๋ฅผ ์˜คํ”ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:25
means that we've done this for five years in a row.
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.
34:29
Amazing.
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๋†€๋ผ์šด.
34:30
At the end of every year, we open the Listening Challenge, a new version of the Listening
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๋งค๋…„ ์—ฐ๋ง์—๋Š” Listening Challenge์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฒ„์ „์ธ Listening
34:33
Challenge.
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Challenge๋ฅผ ์—ฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:35
And that means that in the month of January, I will give you a new listening lesson every
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์ฆ‰, 1์›”์—๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ๋ ˆ์Šจ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:41
day.
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.
34:42
And that will challenge your listening skills and help you to build your knowledge.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์— ๋„์ „ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง€์‹์„ ์Œ“๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:47
So I hope that you'll be able to join us.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:49
Thank you so much for joining us.
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:50
Let us know in the comments some answers to these questions so that we can learn more
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์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์„œ๋กœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ 
34:54
about each other and get to know you.
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๊ท€ํ•˜๋ฅผ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:56
Dan: Yes.
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ
34:57
Let us know the most embarrassing moments of your life.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์› ๋˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š” .
34:59
Vanessa: Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๋Œ“๊ธ€ ์„น์…˜
35:00
Please let us know on the internet, in the comment section.
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์—์„œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค . ์ •๋ง
35:03
That will be great.
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์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด์•ผ. ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜
35:04
Well, thank you so much for learning English with us and we'll see you again next Friday
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์—
35:08
for a new lesson here on my YouTube channel.
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์ œ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ˆ˜์—…์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:11
Bye.
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์•ˆ๋…•.
35:12
Dan: Bye.
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๋Œ„: ์•ˆ๋…•.
35:13
Okay.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
35:14
The next question is your houch, your houch.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ houch, ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ houch์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:17
Dang it.
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์  ์žฅ.
35:18
All right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
35:20
I'm not moving.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์›€์ง์ด์ง€ ์•Š์„๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
35:22
Vanessa: So, on that note- Dan: I wasn't ready.
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ- Dan: ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ๋์–ด.
35:25
Wait, I'm not still not ready.
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์ž ๊น, ๋‚œ ์•„์ง ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ๋์–ด.
35:27
Okay.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
35:28
I'm ready now.
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์ด์ œ ์ค€๋น„๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:29
It is 20% (alcohol), you know?
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20%(์•Œ์ฝ”์˜ฌ)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:33
Vanessa: That was a lot.
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Vanessa: ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์•˜์–ด์š”.
35:36
Youโ€™re like, โ€œAnd then we all get on a dragon and fly away?!
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ โ€œ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์šฉ์„ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?!
35:39
I was not expecting that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค.
35:43
Dan: I know.
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•„์š”.
35:44
Well, I said everybody was kissing me, so I thought I should be absurd at the end.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ํ‚ค์Šคํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ™ฉ๋‹นํ•ด์•ผํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:49
Hide your puppies.
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๊ฐ•์•„์ง€๋ฅผ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
35:51
Vanessa: What?
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ญ?
35:52
My puppies?
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๋‚ด ๊ฐ•์•„์ง€?
35:53
Dan: She's a nihilist.
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๋Œ„: ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜์ž์•ผ.
35:54
Vanessa: A nihilist doesn't mean you're a murderer.
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Vanessa: ํ—ˆ๋ฌด์ฃผ์˜์ž๊ฐ€ ์‚ด์ธ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
35:59
Dan: Will to power.
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๋Œ„: ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์—์˜ ์˜์ง€.
36:00
Oh, the wordโ€™s mind control.
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์˜ค, ๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ๋งˆ์ธ๋“œ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค.
36:01
Vanessa: You want to have mind control?
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Vanessa: ๋งˆ์ธ๋“œ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด?
36:02
Dan: Oh, I'm just listening to you.
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
36:03
Vanessa: Thank you.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:04
Dan: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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๋Œ„: ์Œ-ํ (๊ธ์ •).
36:05
Vanessa: All right.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
36:06
Let's say our next- Dan: I'm going to move on to yours.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋‹ค์Œ์„ ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. Dan: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:08
Vanessa: Hey, that's mine.
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Vanessa: ์ด๋ด, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด๊บผ์•ผ.
36:14
Dan: You drink too slow.
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๋Œ„: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๋งˆ์‹ ๋‹ค.
36:17
Vanessa: No, I'm also talking and trying to organize a video at the same time.
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์ €๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋™์‹œ์— ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์ •๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:21
Dan: I save all my sips for in between.
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ชจ๊ธˆ์„ ์ €์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:25
It's so easy.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:26
It's my wife.
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์ œ ์•„๋‚ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:27
Vanessa: Oh, I wasn't going to say you.
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
36:29
Dan: I was going to say my precious couch.
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๋Œ„: ๋‚ด ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ์†ŒํŒŒ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด.
36:33
Vanessa: This wine.
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ด ์™€์ธ.
36:34
Dan: This Christmas tree, this table that I found at a flea market.
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๋Œ„: ์ด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ, ๋ฒผ๋ฃฉ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ์ฐพ์€ ์ด ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”.
36:39
I am so, I love you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:44
Grateful.
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œํ•˜๋Š”.
36:45
Vanessa: The next step is to download my free ebook Five Steps To Becoming a Confident English
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Vanessa: ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ์ œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ์ „์ž์ฑ… Five Steps To Becoming a Confident English
36:51
Speaker.
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Speaker๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:52
You'll learn what you need to do to speak confidently and fluently.
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์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์œ ์ฐฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๋ ˆ์Šจ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ ค๋ฉด
36:56
Don't forget to subscribe to my YouTube channel for more free lessons.
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์ œ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ์ฑ„๋„์„ ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” .
37:00
Thanks so much.
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์ •๋ง ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ.
37:01
Bye.
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์•ˆ๋…•.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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