1.5 Hour English Conversation Lesson

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Speak English With Vanessa


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Vanessa: Hi, I'm Vanessaย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”,
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from SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com. Today,ย  I have a special guest, my husband, Dan.ย 
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SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com์˜ Vanessa์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์†๋‹˜์ธ ๋‚จํŽธ ๋Œ„์„ ๋ชจ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Dan: Hello.ย 
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Vanessa: Today, we are going to be having a longย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
Vanessa: ์˜ค๋Š˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ธด
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English conversation, because over two years ago,ย  back in February 2020, we made this conversationย ย 
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์˜์–ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๋…„ ์ „์ธ 2020๋…„ 2์›”์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์—ˆ๊ณ 
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and millions of you loved this and said thatย  it helped you to immerse yourself in Englishย ย 
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์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜์–ด์— ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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and have a fun time. Today, we are going to beย  doing something similar. We'll be talking aboutย ย 
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์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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at least 10, possibly more, topics. We'll beย  giving our opinions and stories and ideas.ย 
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์ตœ์†Œ 10๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ, ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Dan: Answers.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‹ต๋ณ€.
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Vanessa: Yes, whatever comes upย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค,
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along the way. There will be subtitles for keyย  phrases down here, but you can also click CC toย ย 
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๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋“  ์ƒ๊ด€์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์•„๋ž˜์— ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ CC๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ
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get the full subtitles so that you don't miss anyย  words. All right, are you ready to get started?ย 
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์ „์ฒด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์–ด๋–ค ๋‹จ์–ด๋„ ๋†“์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
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Dan: I'm ready.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ค€๋น„๋์–ด.
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Vanessa: Let's do it.ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ํ•ด๋ณด์ž.
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But wait, before we get started, like always, Iย  have created a free PDF worksheet for this lessonย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ์ด ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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that you can download. Never forget what you areย  about to learn. You can click on the link in theย ย 
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๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ ค๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” . ์„ค๋ช…์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ด
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description to download this free PDF worksheetย  today, and you will have a chance to answer allย ย 
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๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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of today's questions too. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
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Oo. Vanessa:ย 
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Okay. Are you ready for question number one? Dan:ย 
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์šฐ. Vanessa:
์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
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Yes, I'm ready. What is it? Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ˆ, ์ค€๋น„๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ญ์•ผ? Vanessa:
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All right. Question number one ... Dan:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ... ๋Œ„:
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What is the meaning of life? Vanessa:ย 
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์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? Vanessa:
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Oh, that would be a good start. Topic number oneย  is family. I'm going to be putting the timestampsย ย 
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์˜ค, ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ์ž‘์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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for all of these topics in the description, so ifย  you want to rewatch any of these sections you canย ย 
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์„ค๋ช…์— ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํƒ€์ž„์Šคํƒฌํ”„๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ด ์„น์…˜์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
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easily skip to them. My first question is aboutย  family, and that is what is an interesting factย ย 
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์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ฑด๋„ˆ๋›ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
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about your family history? Dan:ย 
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? Dan:
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Interesting fact. Well, I don't know too muchย  about my mom's side of the family. I know they'veย ย 
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์ €๋Š” ์—„๋งˆ ์ชฝ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
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been in the United States for a long time, butย  they just didn't really keep any records. On myย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ธฐ๋ก๋„ ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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dad's side, on the other hand, I have a, well, Iย  had a particularly detail-oriented grandmother whoย ย 
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ ์ชฝ์—๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ํŠนํžˆ ์„ธ๋ถ€์ ์ธ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:10
would remember everything about her childhood. Sheย  went back and looked at, I don't even know how sheย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
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found documents about where they came from. Herย  family was in Germany, near, I can't remember,ย ย 
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์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์„œ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ฐพ์•˜๋Š”์ง€์กฐ์ฐจ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€ ๋…์ผ ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
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I think it's Hamburg, Hamburg. Grandpa was alsoย  from somewhere in Germany, and both of themย ย 
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ํ•จ๋ถ€๋ฅดํฌ, ํ•จ๋ถ€๋ฅดํฌ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋„ ๋…์ผ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์˜ค์…จ๊ณ , ๋‘ ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘
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just happened to move to eastern Kansas, whichย  is if you've ever been to Kansas, it's just cornย ย 
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์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ์บ”์ž์Šค ๋™๋ถ€๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์˜ค์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์บ”์ž์Šค์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์€ ์˜ฅ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜
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fields and that's it. It's not a very beautifulย  place, but somehow they ended up in Kansas.ย 
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๋ฐญ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ณณ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์บ”์ž์Šค์— ๋„์ฐฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:46
Dan: My grandma would always give lots of detailsย ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š”
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about growing up there on the farm and how theyย  didn't have electricity. She would go on aboutย ย 
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๋†์žฅ์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ „๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
02:57
these stories about, this is how she wouldย  talk, one time, me and my brother Bern,ย ย 
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๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์†ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€ ์ €์™€ ์ œ ๋‚จ๋™์ƒ Bern์ด
03:04
we went to the backyard and filled upย  the tin bucket with hot boiling water,ย ย 
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๋’ค๋œฐ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์–‘์ฒ ํ†ต์— ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ๋“๋Š” ๋ฌผ์„ ์ฑ„์› ๊ณ 
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and he took all the hot water, Daniel. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Daniel . Vanessa:
03:16
She remembered it was a tin bucket. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–‘์ฒ  ์–‘๋™์ด์˜€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
03:18
Yeah, and it was cousin Bern, and itย  was Uncle Freddie, people like that.ย ย 
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๋„ค, ์‚ฌ์ดŒ Bern์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  Freddie ์‚ผ์ดŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
I think her father's name was Freddie. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ํ”„๋ ˆ๋””๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
03:26
Oh, that's her son's name. Dan:ย 
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์•„, ์•„๋“ค ์ด๋ฆ„์ด๊ตฐ์š”. ๋Œ„:
03:28
Yeah. I don't know how interestingย  that is, but it's the onlyย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
03:32
cultural knowledge I have about my past. Theย  other side of the family, they just, we livedย ย 
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๋‚˜์˜ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ์ง€์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์กฑ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ชฝ์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
03:39
in Virginia a long time ago, and my greatย  grandfather was a coal miner apparently soย ย 
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์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ „์— ๋ฒ„์ง€๋‹ˆ์•„์— ์‚ด์•˜๊ณ  ์ฆ์กฐ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์„ํƒ„ ๊ด‘๋ถ€์˜€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ค์†Œ
03:44
kind of interesting, I guess. Vanessa:ย 
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
03:46
Yeah. I think that's pretty cool though thatย  because in the US everyone has heritage fromย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๊ฝค ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ „
03:52
other places around the world and it gets lostย  sometimes. In fact, that's what I was going toย ย 
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์˜ ์œ ์‚ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์žƒ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์ €๋„
03:56
talk about too in a moment. That area in Kansas,ย  I remember your grandma saying that there wereย ย 
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์ž ์‹œ ํ›„์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์บ”์ž์Šค์˜ ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋…์ผ์ธ ์ „์šฉ ๊ตํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:03
German-only churches. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
04:05
Oh yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ. Vanessa:
04:06
So they would speak only German.ย  Did your grandma know any German?ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋…์ผ์–ด๋งŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๋…์ผ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
04:10
Dan: Very little. I don't think she knew a lot.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„์ฃผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:12
Vanessa: I think that's kind of the generational thing,ย ย 
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Vanessa:
04:14
like her parents knew it. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์„ธ๋Œ€์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
04:15
She's probably the last generation that spokeย  German, or her parents were the last generationย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋…์ผ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์„ธ๋Œ€์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋…์ผ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์„ธ๋Œ€์˜€์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:20
that spoke German. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
04:21
Yeah, but then for her she just understoodย  probably some German. That community was,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ๋…์ผ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ–ˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š”
04:27
for some reason, where lots of German peopleย  moved to and that's where your family's from.ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ์—์„œ์ธ์ง€ ๋งŽ์€ ๋…์ผ์ธ์ด ์ด์ฃผํ•œ ๊ณณ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ์˜ ๊ณ ํ–ฅ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
Dan: Yeah. They went through a lot ofย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
04:34
really challenging cultural changes. There was aย  lot of German mistrust and hate during that time,ย ย 
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์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“  ๋ฌธํ™”์  ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋…์ผ์ธ๋“ค์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถˆ์‹ ๊ณผ ์ฆ์˜ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:42
obviously, for reasons that we can understand. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
04:45
Political reasons. Dan:ย 
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04:45
We were at war with Germany a lot, so I thinkย  they were trying to scrub out a lot of the superย ย 
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์ •์น˜์ ์ธ ์ด์œ . Dan:
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋…์ผ๊ณผ ๋งŽ์€ ์ „์Ÿ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋…์ผ์ด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ
04:51
German sounding things. Apparently our lastย  name was more German sounding at one point.ย ย 
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๋…์ผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์„ฑ์€ ์–ด๋Š ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ๋” ๋…์ผ์–ด๋กœ ๋“ค๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
I don't know how they said it, and speakingย  German would certainly be one of those things.ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๊ณ , ๋…์ผ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:02
Vanessa: Yeah, so they tried to assimilate toย ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ถ์— ๋™ํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
05:05
life and that's similar to my ... Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ... Dan:
05:07
Tell me about your family history. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
05:08
...similar to the interesting point I wantedย  to tell you about. My family history is thatย ย 
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...๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋ ฅ์€
05:13
on my dad's side, my greatย  grandma and my great grandpa, theyย ย 
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ ์ชฝ, ์ฆ์กฐ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ, ์ฆ์กฐํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€
05:20
are from around the area of Naples, Italy.ย  First, my great grandpa went on a boat,ย ย 
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์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ๋‚˜ํด๋ฆฌ ์ง€์—ญ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ์ฆ์กฐํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ 
05:27
came to the US, married someone, had three kids. Dan:ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์˜ค์…”์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•˜์—ฌ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์…‹ ๋‚ณ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
05:30
It was a good story. Vanessa:ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
05:31
Then his wife died. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ๊ทธ์˜ ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
05:32
Oh, that's the bad part. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
05:33
He had three kids and no wife and he's working,ย  I'm sure, a really difficult job. That was not aย ย 
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๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์„ธ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ์—†์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋Š”
05:40
time when you could be a single father. Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ™€๋กœ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
05:41
This was in Pittsburgh, right? Vanessa:ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ”ผ์ธ ๋ฒ„๊ทธ์˜€์ฃ ? Vanessa:
05:43
They were either in New York or Pittsburgh,ย  but by the time my great grandma came, theyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‰ด์š•์ด๋‚˜ ํ”ผ์ธ ๋ฒ„๊ทธ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ฆ์กฐํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค์…จ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
05:47
went to Pittsburgh. We're getting a little aheadย  of ourselves. He wrote a letter to his mother whoย ย 
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ํ”ผ์ธ ๋ฒ„๊ทธ๋กœ ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์•ž์„œ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์—๊ฒŒ ํŽธ์ง€๋ฅผ ์จ์„œ '์ƒˆ ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ
05:54
lived back in Italy, and he said, I need to findย  a new wife. Can you help me to find a new wifeย ย 
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์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค'๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์ œ ์„ธ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด๊ณณ์— ์˜ฌ ์ƒˆ ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ ํ–ฅ์—์„œ ์ฐพ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
06:00
from our hometown that will come here to liveย  with me and help take care of my three kids.ย ย 
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06:06
His mom said, no problem. I'll find you a wife. Iย  got her. Here's her height. Here's her dimensions.ย ย 
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๊ทธ์˜ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ํ‚ค๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์น˜์ˆ˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:12
Get a wedding dress for her. My great grandpa gotย  a wedding dress made in the US, the right size andย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์›จ๋”ฉ ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ž…์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ์ œ ์ฆ์กฐํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋“  ์›จ๋”ฉ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค, ์ ๋‹นํ•œ ์‚ฌ์ด์ฆˆ,
06:20
everything for his future mysterious wife. We callย  this a mail order bride. He basically ordered herย ย 
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์‹ ๋น„ํ•œ ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฅผ ์šฐํŽธ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์‹ ๋ถ€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
06:27
in a letter like you would a package. Vanessa:ย 
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ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํŽธ์ง€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
06:32
I don't know what he did with his kids,ย  but he went to Italy, and as legend has it,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„๋กœ ๊ฐ”๊ณ  ์ „์„ค์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด
06:38
one day he was in the house. Theyย  were preparing things for the wedding,ย ย 
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์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ๊ทธ ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์‹์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
06:44
and he looked out the window and a woman walkedย  by, and he said, oh, that's the woman I wantย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ฐฝ๋ฐ–์„ ๋‚ด๋‹ค๋ณด์•˜๊ณ  ํ•œ ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:50
to marry. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
06:51
Who is that? Vanessa:ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์‹œ์ฃ ? Vanessa:
06:52
Was that his mail order bride?ย  Nope, that was my great-grandmother.ย 
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์šฐํŽธ ์ฃผ๋ฌธ ์‹ ๋ถ€์˜€๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์ฆ์กฐํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์˜€๋‹ค.
06:57
Dan: Was it her sister? The original woman's sister?ย 
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๋Œ„: ์–ธ๋‹ˆ์˜€์–ด? ์›๋ž˜ ์—ฌ์ž์˜ ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ?
07:00
Vanessa: One of the legends is thatย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ „์„ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
07:01
it was his, well not his sister ... Dan:ย 
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์—ฌ๋™์ƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ทธ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
07:03
Adds to the drama. Vanessa:ย 
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๋“œ๋ผ๋งˆ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
07:04
But my grandma clarified. This was her mother.ย  She said, oh, he saw her outside the window.ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ์–ด์š”. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ฐฝ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
07:09
Dan: Just a random lady?ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•„๋ฌด ์—ฌ์ž?
07:12
Vanessa: Uh-huh. Well, this is all a little vagueย ย 
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Vanessa: ์–ดํ—ˆ. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
07:14
because this is going back quite some time. Dan:ย 
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๊ฝค ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ „์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์Šฌ๋Ÿฌ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ชจํ˜ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
07:16
Excuse me, ma'am? Will you marry me?? Vanessa:ย 
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์‹ค๋ก€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋ถ€์ธ? ๋‚˜๋ž‘ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•ด์ค„๋ž˜?? Vanessa:
07:18
Basically. She was taller than his otherย  supposed to be wife. He married her. Her nameย ย 
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ์š”. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ์˜ ์•„๋‚ด๋กœ ์ถ”์ •๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ‚ค๊ฐ€ ์ปธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์€
07:30
was Antoinette. He married her. She said, yes, I'mย  going to move to the US with you, leave my family.ย ย 
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์•™ํˆฌ์•„๋„คํŠธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋„ค, ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ๋– ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:36
She must have had a really tough situation, Iย  imagine. They were all farmers. I'm sure thatย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“  ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋†๋ถ€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
07:40
was a really hard life, and that could give herย  some hope for the future. In the wedding pictures,ย ย 
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์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“  ์‚ถ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํฌ๋ง์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›จ๋”ฉ ์‚ฌ์ง„์—์„œ
07:47
her dress is a little bit too short becauseย  it was not supposed to be her dress. It wasย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์–ด์„œ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์งง์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
07:53
supposed to be the other lady's dress.ย  I'm glad that happened because otherwiseย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์˜ ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค๋กœ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
07:58
I would not be here. Dan:ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹คํ–‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
07:59
That's Vanessa's origin story, really. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ Vanessa์˜ ๊ธฐ์› ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
08:01
Yeah. This lady, Antoinette, she moved to theย  US. She had three kids and then her husband died,ย ย 
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๋„ค. Antoinette๋ผ๋Š” ์ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์ฃผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” 3๋ช…์˜ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋‘์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋‚จํŽธ์ด ์‚ฌ๋งํ•˜์—ฌ
08:08
so she had six children in a new country. Crazyย  story. She raised them. She's what we might callย ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ 6๋ช…์˜ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ํ‚ค์› ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
08:15
the matriarch of my dad's side of the family. Dan:ย 
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ ์ชฝ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
08:19
Antoinette Manolfi. Vanessa:ย 
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์•™ํˆฌ์•„๋„คํŠธ ๋งˆ๋†€ํ”ผ. Vanessa: ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘
08:20
Everybody who is from that side of theย  family knows her and reveres her. Oh,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ชฝ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์กด๊ฒฝํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค,
08:26
she was so amazing. Oh yeah, she just helpedย  us survive. We might say she was a survivor.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์คฌ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์กด์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
She really went through a lot, and sheย  was the right person for the job becauseย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ผ์„ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ ์ผ์— ์ ์ž„์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:37
she made it work. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
08:38
Nice. Vanessa:ย 
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08:38
Yeah. That's an interesting story aboutย  my family. I'm sure everyone has thoseย ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:41
as well. I want to ask you the sameย  question. Let us know in the comments,ย ย 
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. ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
08:45
what's an interesting story or an interestingย  fact about your family history. We'd love to know.ย ย 
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๊ฐ€์กฑ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋‚˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:52
Let's go to question number two. This is aboutย  childhood. I'd like to know what's something thatย ย 
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2๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:59
you did as a child that you still do now. Theseย  are kind of personal questions to start off with.ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ผ๊ณผ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
Dan: Well, we laughed beforeย ย 
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Dan: ์Œ,
09:06
this because she said everything. I am a littleย  bit, let's just say, youthful in my approachย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ „์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์›ƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์ Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:14
to life. That's the positive way to say it anyway.ย  Something that I directly do, especially now,ย ย 
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. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€
09:22
because I have kids, is catching critters. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
09:26
Oh yeah. Dan:ย 
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09:26
Catching critters and keeping them. I wouldย  say critters are generally small animals.ย ย 
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ. Dan:
๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก์•„์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ. ๋™๋ฌผ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์€ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:34
When I was a kid, I spent, I would say 50%ย  of my life trying to catch frogs, lizards,ย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ์˜ 50%๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ, ๋„๋งˆ๋ฑ€,
09:41
grasshoppers, snakes, bugs of anyย  kind, and I would keep them in cages.ย ย 
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๋ฉ”๋šœ๊ธฐ, ๋ฑ€, ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๋ฅผ ์žก์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์— ๊ฐ€๋‘๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
I would use nets to catch butterflies, terrariums,ย  aquariums, fish, anything like that. I caught andย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‚˜๋น„, ํ…Œ๋ผ๋ฆฌ์›€, ์ˆ˜์กฑ๊ด€, ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ ๋“ฑ์„ ์žก์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”
09:56
kept lots and lots of critters. There was probablyย  a five-year phase where we didn't do that veryย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก์•„ ํ‚ค์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ 5๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:03
much. Funnily enough, even when we first gotย  married, and you're into this too, I don't knowย ย 
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. ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋น ์กŒ์„ ๋•Œ์กฐ์ฐจ
10:12
where she got this. Maybe it's infectious. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋””์„œ ์–ป์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ „์—ผ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
10:14
We caught tad poles as kids. Dan:ย 
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์–ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ ์˜ฌ์ฑ™์ด๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜์–ด์š”. Dan:
10:16
We would catch tad poles as just a marriedย  couple. We'd go down to the pond and scoopย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ถ€๋ถ€๋กœ ์˜ฌ์ฑ™์ด๋ฅผ ์žก์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฐ๋ชป์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€
10:21
in and get some mucky, gucky tad poles and watchย  them change into frogs. It's the miracle of life.ย 
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์—‰๋šฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์—‰๋šฑํ•œ ์˜ฌ์ฑ™์ด ๋ง‰๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๊ตฌํ•ด ๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ถ์˜ ๊ธฐ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:28
Vanessa: You know what? I have aย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„? ๋‚˜๋Š”
10:29
distinct memory on our honeymoon, we were taking aย  hike, and you saw, I think this was the first timeย ย 
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์‹ ํ˜ผ ์—ฌํ–‰์—์„œ ๋šœ๋ ทํ•œ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณด์…จ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด๋ฒˆ์ด ์ฒ˜์Œ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:38
I'd ever caught critters with you because,ย  I don't know, maybe when we were dating ...ย 
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10:42
Dan: She didn't know what she was signing up for.ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
Vanessa: Maybe when we were dating, we justย ย 
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Vanessa: ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ•  ๋•Œ
10:46
weren't in those situations. I remember we were onย  a hike and you were in a stream picking up rocks,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜์ดํ‚น ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐœ์šธ์—์„œ ๋Œ์„ ์ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
10:52
and you were so excited. This is a good salamanderย  spot. There might be salamanders. Then you foundย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฅ๋ถ„ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ๋„๋กฑ๋‡ฝ ์ž๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„๋กฑ๋‡ฝ์ด ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ
10:57
one and I was so impressed. Dan:ย 
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•˜๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ๋ช…๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
11:00
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
11:01
How did you find that salamander because I caughtย  tad poles maybe like every summer as a kid,ย ย 
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๋„๋กฑ๋‡ฝ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ฐพ์•˜๋‚˜์š”? ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ž‘์€ ์žฅ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜์ง€๋งŒ
11:08
but I never caught salamanders or whole frogs orย  fish. We had nets and caught fireflies and stuff,ย ย 
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๋„๋กฑ๋‡ฝ์ด๋‚˜ ํ†ต์งธ๋กœ ๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ์žก์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด์š” . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฌผ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋ฐ˜๋”ง๋ถˆ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žก์•˜
11:16
but I think you take it to the next level. Dan:ย 
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์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋Œ„:
11:19
Yeah. Especially as a kid, I took it toย  the next level. One time I caught a fiveย ย 
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๋„ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€ 5
11:24
foot snake. I didn't even know what kindย  it was, I just reached into the bushes.ย ย 
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ํ”ผํŠธ ๋ฑ€์„ ์žก์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜ ์ธ์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ž๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ค๋ถˆ ์†์œผ๋กœ ์†์„ ๋ป—์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:29
I didn't grab it the right way. I was likeย  swinging it through the air. That was probablyย ย 
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์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ชป ์žก์•˜๋„ค์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณต์ค‘์— ํœ˜๋‘๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„
11:34
the dumbest thing I ever did honestly catchingย  critters as a child. It extends beyond that too.ย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก์€ ์ •์งํ•œ ํ–‰๋™ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์ง“์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ๋„ ํ™•์žฅ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:40
I've always liked keeping fish. I love making fishย  tanks and the environments. Obviously you can doย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์–ดํ•ญ๊ณผ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ
11:46
that for frogs and reptiles. I have big dreamsย  for my son because he's also very into this.ย 
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๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํŒŒ์ถฉ๋ฅ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์•„๋“ค๋„ ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํฐ ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:53
Vanessa: Oh yeah.ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
11:55
He is crazed about his net and catching stuff. Heย  just loves that. I mean it's treasures in nature.ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฌผ๊ณผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด ์žก๊ธฐ์— ์—ด๊ด‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์—ฐ์˜ ๋ณด๋ฌผ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:02
Dan: Soon enough,ย ย 
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Dan: ๋จธ์ง€์•Š์•„
12:03
our house will turn into a menagerie of critters. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์€ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์˜ ๋™๋ฌผ์›์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
12:06
I just have one rule. I would ... Dan:ย 
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๊ทœ์น™์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”... ๋Œ„:
12:08
Scorpions. Vanessa:ย 
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์ „๊ฐˆ. Vanessa:
12:09
I don't mind keeping frogs and lizards and fish. Dan:ย 
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๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ, ๋„๋งˆ๋ฑ€, ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
12:13
Snakes? Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฑ€? Vanessa:
12:14
But I don't want to keep any snakes. Dan:ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฑ€์€ ๊ธฐ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”. ๋Œ„:
12:16
Oh, come on. Vanessa:ย 
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12:16
I know a lot of snakes are harmless ... Dan:ย 
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์˜ค, ์–ด์„œ. Vanessa:
๋งŽ์€ ๋ฑ€์ด ๋ฌดํ•ดํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... Dan:
12:19
They're cute. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ท€์—ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
12:20
... but I would rather the snakes liveย  under our shed than live in our house.ย 
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...ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฑ€์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ—›๊ฐ„ ์•„๋ž˜์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ซ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
12:24
Dan: That's more dangerous.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•ด.
12:25
Vanessa: Well, if they're not poisonous.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์Œ, ๋…์„ฑ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด.
12:27
If they're not venomous, then they can catchย  rats and catch things and keep our chicken safe,ย ย 
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๋…์ด ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ์ฅ๋ฅผ ์žก๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์žก์•„์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‹ญ์„ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€ํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:33
that type of thing. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
12:34
That's what snakes do? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฑ€์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
12:35
Yeah. A lot of chickens ... Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ญ๋“ค... Dan:
12:36
They protect chickens. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ญ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
12:38
Yeah. A lot of people, and thisย  is getting a little deep ...ย 
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๋„ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊นŠ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
12:40
Dan: Are chickens critters?ย 
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Dan: ๋‹ญ์€ ๋™๋ฌผ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
12:42
Vanessa: I don'tย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ €๋Š”
12:43
this so. When I think of a critter, I think ofย  crawling, like something that goes like k-k-k-k,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ํฌ -ํฌ-ํฌ-ํฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ,
12:50
like a little crawly thing. Dan:ย 
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์ž‘์€ ํฌ๋กค๋ง ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
12:52
Am I a critter? Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋™๋ฌผ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? Vanessa:
12:54
That's a good question. I was going to say someย  people, we have chickens, you might have seenย ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:00
this on our YouTube channel before, some peopleย  purposefully have a rat snake or a black snake,ย ย 
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์ด์ „์— YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:07
a garter snake that lives in their chickenย  coop, and they eat like one egg perย ย 
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13:14
two weeks or something. They don't eat that much. Dan:ย 
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2์ฃผ ์ •๋„์— ๋‹ฌ๊ฑ€์„. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
13:15
Is that good? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€๊ฐ€์š”? Vanessa:
13:17
They do it for protection. They're keeping ratsย  away. They're keeping other things away from theย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ฅ๋ฅผ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ญ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:22
coop. There's a whole, let me tell you ... Dan:ย 
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. ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ฃ ... ๋Œ„:
13:25
You want me to bring snakes intoย  our family, well, but outside?ย 
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๋ฑ€์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค์˜ค๊ธธ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š” ?
13:30
Vanessa: As long as they are outside,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ
13:32
that's okay. I don't want snakes in my house. Dan:ย 
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ๋ฑ€์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. Dan: ์ง‘
13:36
I have lots of good stories about snakes inย  the house. One snake escaped in the house.ย 
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์— ๋ฑ€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ง‘์—์„œ ๋ฑ€ ํ•œ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํƒˆ์ถœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:40
Vanessa: Oh, don't tell me that.ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
13:42
Dan: My mom found it under the couch months laterย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ํ›„์— ์†ŒํŒŒ ๋ฐ‘์—์„œ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ
13:46
and it was dead. Vanessa:ย 
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์ฃฝ์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
13:48
Oh no. Yeah. Dan:ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ. ์‘. Dan:
13:51
It was one of those classic situations ofย  mom screams in the other room, and we'reย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋น„๋ช…์„ ์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
13:55
like what? What? Vanessa:ย 
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์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š”? ๋ฌด์—‡? Vanessa:
13:57
You kids have that snake in here?ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๊ทธ ๋ฑ€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
13:59
Dan: Daniel,ย ย 
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Dan: Daniel,
14:00
gee, what is this thing? That's what she'd say. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ญ์•ผ? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
14:04
Well, do you want to share also while we'reย  on this topic, your first memory, the frog?ย 
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์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ธ ๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‚˜์š”?
14:08
Dan: Oh my very first memory.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๋‚ด ์ฒซ ๊ธฐ์–ต.
14:10
Vanessa: Yes. This will drill in the point that Danย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ Dan์ด
14:12
loves critters. Dan:ย 
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๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
14:13
Yeah. I caught a toad probably when I wasย  two years old and I was, for some reason,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๋‘ ์‚ด ๋•Œ ๋‘๊บผ๋น„๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜๊ณ , ์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ์—์„œ์ธ์ง€, ๋‘๊บผ๋น„๋ฅผ
14:18
holding it off my deck and I dropped it down intoย  the bushes. I remember thinking, no, my toad. Thenย ย 
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๋‚ด ๋ฐํฌ์—์„œ ๋–ผ์–ด๋‚ด์–ด ๋ค๋ถˆ ์†์œผ๋กœ ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‚ด ๋‘๊บผ๋น„๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚œ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์•„๋ž˜๋กœ
14:26
I went down to look for it and I couldn't find it. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€์„œ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
14:28
This is Dan's first memory in life. Dan:ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ Dan์˜ ์ƒ์•  ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
14:30
Yeah, literally one, at least as far as I know. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ˆ, ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
14:33
Well, there you go. Dan:ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”. ๋Œ„:
14:34
Yeah. That's the point of it? Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์š”์ ์ด์•ผ? Vanessa:
14:35
A lifetime of catching critters startedย  at a young age. Well, I think ...ย 
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์ผ์ƒ ๋™์•ˆ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ๋‚˜์ด์— ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”...
14:40
Dan: Yeah. How about you?ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š”?
14:41
Vanessa: For me?ย 
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14:41
Dan: What do you still do besides catchingย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด?
Dan: ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์žก๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์™ธ์— ์•„์ง๋„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”
14:44
lots of critters? Vanessa:ย 
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? Vanessa:
14:45
I do catch tad poles still. That's fun. Iย  think the thing that first came to my mind,ย ย 
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์˜ฌ์ฑ™์ด๋ฅผ ์žก์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฌ๋ฐŒ๋„ค. ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€
14:50
and I tried to think about just like the firstย  thing that came to my mind for each of these, isย ย 
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์ด ๊ฐ๊ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‚ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ
14:55
when I was a kid I loved to dig in the dirt.ย  My sister and I had two best friends who livedย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ํ™์„ ํŒŒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ธธ ๊ฑด๋„ˆํŽธ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
15:01
right across the street, and we spent hours inย  the backyard just digging in the dirt. We builtย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋’ค๋œฐ์—์„œ ํ™์„ ํŒŒ๋ฉฐ ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
15:09
things in the dirt. We had little inventions. Weย  made homes in the dirt. We did so many things.ย ย 
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ํ™ ์†์— ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ’ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ™์œผ๋กœ ์ง‘์„ ์ง€์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:15
Now I dig in the dirt, but I call it gardening. Dan:ย 
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์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ™์„ ํŒŒ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
15:19
I think we have the wrong YouTube channel.ย  We just need to be covered in mud with likeย ย 
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YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
15:23
snakes and gardening. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฑ€๊ณผ ์ •์› ๊ฐ€๊พธ๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ง„ํ™์œผ๋กœ ๋’ค๋ฎ์ด๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
15:24
Maybe that will be YouTube channel ... Dan:ย 
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YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... Dan:
15:26
Number two. Vanessa:ย 
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15:26
Number two, Dan catches critters andย  Vanessa digs in the dirt and gardens.ย ย 
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ, Dan์€ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก๊ณ  Vanessa๋Š” ํ™๊ณผ ์ •์›์„ ํŒŒ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:32
I remember when I was in seventh grade at school,ย  we had a class, I think it was Home Ec., whichย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ 7ํ•™๋…„์ด์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์—…์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์ • ๊ฒฝ์ œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ Home Ec.์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:39
is like home economics. You learn about cooking,ย  and sewing, and those types of things. There wasย ย 
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. ์š”๋ฆฌ, ๋ฐ”๋Š์งˆ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:45
a hygiene section where you learned how to takeย  care of your hair, how to take care of your nails.ย ย 
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๋จธ๋ฆฌ์นด๋ฝ์„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๊ณผ ์†ํ†ฑ์„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šด ์œ„์ƒ ์„น์…˜์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:52
I remember specifically ... Dan:ย 
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๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑด... ๋Œ„:
15:54
How to take care of your nails? Vanessa:ย 
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์†ํ†ฑ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
15:55
I know. Dan:ย 
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์•Œ์•„์š”. Dan:
15:56
There's a class about that? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์—…์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? Vanessa:
15:57
Well, it was like how to, I don't know, someย  people maybe don't learn that at home, like howย ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ง‘์—์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
16:00
to trim your nails and stuff. This lady was oneย  of those people that as a middle schooler, mostย ย 
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์†ํ†ฑ ๋‹ค๋“ฌ๋Š” ๋ฒ• ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์š”. ์ด ์—ฌ์ž๋Š” ์ค‘ํ•™์ƒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜
16:05
middle schoolers just roll their eyes at, like,ย  oh, you think I'm going to do that? Oh, I'm notย ย 
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์ค‘ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๊ตด๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ' ์˜ค, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„? ์˜ค, ๋‚˜๋Š”
16:09
going to be like you, but she was our teacher. Sheย  was telling us how to clean our nails and paintย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์†ํ†ฑ์„ ๋‹ฆ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์น ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:17
them in this type of thing. I remember asking ... Dan:ย 
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. ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”... ๋Œ„:
16:19
Was it for ladies only? Vanessa:ย 
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์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ „์šฉ์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? Vanessa:
16:21
Yeah, we were split by gender, so there was boysย  in one class, girls in the other just for Homeย ย 
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๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ฑ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋‚˜๋‰˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ•œ ํ•™๊ธ‰์—๋Š” ๋‚จํ•™์ƒ์ด, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™๊ธ‰์—๋Š” ์—ฌํ•™์ƒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:26
Ec. I remember her saying how to cleanย  your nails and make them look nice. Iย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์†ํ†ฑ์„ ๊นจ๋—ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ๊ณผ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ข‹๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:33
remember asking in the class, I said, butย  what if I always have dirt under my nails?ย 
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์ˆ˜์—… ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ดค๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์†ํ†ฑ ๋ฐ‘์— ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋จผ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์–ด๋–กํ•˜์ง€?
16:39
Dan: You raised your hands and asked that?ย 
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๋Œ„: ์†๋“ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ดค์–ด?
16:40
Vanessa: I asked that question. I was soย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด
16:43
naive. I always have dirt under my nails. I can'tย  get them clean like that. She looked at me like,ย ย 
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์ˆœ์ง„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์†ํ†ฑ ๋ฐ‘์— ๋จผ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ฒญ์†Œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉฐ,
16:52
what? Like I had three heads on my head. What?ย  Why would you have dirt under your nails? You'reย ย 
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๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ ? ๋‚ด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์— ์„ธ ๊ฐœ์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ. ๋ฌด์—‡? ์†ํ†ฑ ๋ฐ‘์— ํ™์ด ๋ฌป์€ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‹น์‹ ์€
16:58
a seventh grade girl. I think after that ... Dan:ย 
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7ํ•™๋…„ ์—ฌํ•™์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋‹ˆ... ๋Œ„:
17:00
Be proper. Vanessa:ย 
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์ ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
17:01
... maybe when I was in eighth grade or so Iย  had a phase where I stopped playing in the dirtย ย 
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... ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ 8ํ•™๋…„์ด์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์ฏค์— ํ™์—์„œ ๋…ธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋‘๊ณ 
17:08
and did other things. Now I have come fullย  circle and well, I took a shower recently,ย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์›์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„œ
17:14
so my nails are actually clean, but they'reย  almost always full of dirt. Just like our kids.ย 
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์†ํ†ฑ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊นจ๋—ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋จผ์ง€๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
17:18
Dan: I'm sure you put in moreย ย 
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Dan:
17:19
effort to get the dirt out now. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด์ œ ๋จผ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
17:22
Yeah. Kind of. Sometimes it works, sometimesย  it doesn't, but I have the same mindset as aย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ฑฐ์˜. ์ž˜ ๋  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์•ˆ ๋  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” 7ํ•™๋…„์ƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:27
seventh grader of, well, my hands aren'tย  going to be completely clean because ...ย 
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์Œ, ๋‚ด ์†์ด ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊นจ๋—ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด...
17:30
Dan: You really do.ย 
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Dan: ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:31
Vanessa: ... I was just playing in the dirt.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ™์—์„œ ๋†€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
17:33
What's the matter with that? Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ƒ๊ด€์ด์•ผ? Dan:
17:34
If you look at Vanessa's wardrobe,ย  I have more clothes than herย ย 
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Vanessa์˜ ์˜ท์žฅ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์˜ท์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:38
half the time. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
17:39
I don't really care about those kind of things. Dan:ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์—๋Š” ๋ณ„๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
17:40
Yeah. She's not you're a typical girlyย  girl. Let's put it that way. A girly girl.ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋…€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์†Œ๋…€.
17:44
Vanessa: That's okay.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:45
Dan: That's my sister.ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‚ด ๋™์ƒ์ด์•ผ.
17:47
Maybe we'll talk about her later. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๊ทธ๋…€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
17:48
Okay. All right. Well, let's go to our nextย  question. But before we do that, I want to askย ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ „์— ๋ฌป๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:53
you, what is something that you did in childhoodย  that you still do now? Let us know in theย ย 
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์— ํ•œ ์ผ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”
17:59
comments. All right. Let's go to question numberย  three. Question number three is about hobbies.ย ย 
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. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. 3๋ฒˆ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ทจ๋ฏธ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:05
I'd like to know if you could wake up tomorrowย  and magically have any kind of education,ย ย 
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๋‚ด์ผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์„œ ๋งˆ๋ฒ•์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ต์œก,
18:10
talent, or skill set, what would it be? Dan:ย 
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์žฌ๋Šฅ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? Dan:
18:14
Education or skill? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ต์œก์ด๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ? Vanessa:
18:16
Yeah, this is very broad. Dan:ย 
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์˜ˆ, ๋งค์šฐ ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
18:17
Yes. Well, when I think skill, I mean, Iย  think that I would want to be, and this isย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ œ ๋ง์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ธ๋ฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
18:23
a little stereotypical, an athlete of some kind,ย  particularly a hockey player. When you are playingย ย 
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํ‹€์— ๋ฐ•ํžŒ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์šด๋™์„ ์ˆ˜, ํŠนํžˆ ํ•˜ํ‚ค ์„ ์ˆ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ
18:32
a sport and you really like that sport, you getย  into the flow and you just live in that momentย ย 
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๊ทธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋ฉด ํ๋ฆ„์— ๋น ์ ธ๋“ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ์‚ด๊ณ 
18:38
and you just have so much fun. I can rememberย  as a kid, one time I scored a goal to win theย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€
18:44
game in hockey, and that's just the greatestย  feeling ever. Now, if you add to that, a bigย ย 
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ํ•˜ํ‚ค ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ด๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณจ์„ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋”ํ•˜๋ฉด
18:53
stadium full of fans cheering your name ... Am Iย  egotistical? I don't know. That would just be theย ย 
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ํŒฌ๋“ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐฌ ํฐ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋„ˆ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ํ™˜ํ˜ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด... ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€? ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:59
ultimate thrill to score a goal and hear everybodyย  cheering. I would say, yeah, either an athlete ofย ย 
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๊ณจ์„ ๋„ฃ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํ™˜ํ˜ธํ•˜๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ถ๊ทน์˜ ์Šค๋ฆด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ, ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์šด๋™์„ ์ˆ˜์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:07
some kind or a performer. I think you get the sameย  kind of feeling if you are acting, if you're maybeย ย 
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. ์—ฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋„,
19:16
a standup comedian and you're making people laugh. Dan:ย 
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์Šคํƒ ๋“œ์—… ์ฝ”๋ฏธ๋””์–ธ์ด ๋˜์–ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์›ƒ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๋•Œ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan:
19:20
Even to a certain degree, I thinkย  being a really great teacher,ย ย 
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์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
19:26
being a really great teacher probably gives youย  that same kind of feeling of you're performingย ย 
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์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ 
19:32
and bringing value and people are entertained.ย  If I were to have like, I wasn't thinking so muchย ย 
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๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€
19:42
education, I was thinking more skills, so I wouldย  wake up tomorrow and I'd be the best hockey playerย ย 
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๊ต์œก์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚ด์ผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง€๊ตฌ์ƒ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ํ•˜ํ‚ค ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:47
on earth. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
19:48
Wow. Dan:ย 
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19:48
Maybe that'd be a little bit boringย  just beating everybody right and left.ย ย 
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์™€์šฐ. Dan:
๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ์ขŒ์šฐ๋กœ ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ง€๋ฃจํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:52
I'm sure you still have to work though.ย  Yeah, I'd have great athletic prowess.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ์šด๋™ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:58
Vanessa: Cool.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋‹ค.
19:59
Dan: How about you? What would youย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋•Œ?
20:00
want to wake up tomorrow with? Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚ด์ผ ๋ฌด์—‡์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Vanessa:
20:02
Well, I said something a little bit stereotypicalย  too. I had my primary answer and thenย ย 
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์Œ, ์ €๋„ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํ‹€์— ๋ฐ•ํžŒ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
20:09
a maybe cheat answer. I think if Iย  could wake up tomorrow with a skill,ย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ถ€์ •ํ–‰์œ„์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ต๋ณ€์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋กœ ๋‚ด์ผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
20:16
maybe I said something a little more realistic.ย  I said, I'd like to be able to play the ukuleleย ย 
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ์ฟจ๋ ๋ ˆ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:22
really well. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
20:24
The ukulele? Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ์ฟจ๋ ๋ ˆ์š”? Vanessa:
20:25
I don't play the ukulele. I play the flute. Iย  don't know. I just thought if I could have aย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์šฐ์ฟจ๋ ๋ ˆ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ”Œ๋ฃจํŠธ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•œ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
20:31
cool skill, I mean, that's something that I couldย  take outside. I could be playing while the kidsย ย 
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, ์ฆ‰, ์™ธ๋ถ€๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋…ธ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋†€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:36
are playing. Dan:ย 
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20:36
This is a very humble dream. Vanessa:ย 
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. Dan:
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒธ์†ํ•œ ๊ฟˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
20:38
Maybe it is. I didn't want to think forย  too long about this. I wanted to give youย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€ํ•˜์—๊ฒŒ
20:42
my initial response. Yeah, I think it would beย  cool. A guitar is pretty big to take somewhere.ย ย 
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์ฒซ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ธฐํƒ€๋Š” ์–ด๋””๋ก ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฝค ํฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:48
A piano would be amazing, but it's not quite asย  portable. I just feel like sometimes when you're,ย ย 
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ํ”ผ์•„๋…ธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ํœด๋Œ€์„ฑ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ์ข‹์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‹ฅ๋ถˆ
20:54
I had this image, like you're sitting aroundย  a bonfire and the sun setting and you're justย ย 
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์ฃผ์œ„์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ˆ˜๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋–จ๋ฉฐ
20:59
chatting with your friends, just having a ukuleleย  and playing some music, oh, that just brings theย ย 
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์šฐ์ฟจ๋ ๋ ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๊ณ  ์Œ์•…์„ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋“ฏํ•œ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:05
atmosphere to a very warm place. Dan:ย 
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๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•œ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
21:08
You could play Wheels On the Bus for our children. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด Wheels On the Bus๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: 5๋ถ„ ์•ˆ์—
21:11
I could maybe play Wheelsย  On the Bus in five minutes.ย 
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Wheels On the Bus๋ฅผ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:12
Dan: That's the first song that comes to myย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ž˜์•ผ
21:15
head. The version we listen to, It's likeย  do, do, do, do, and I just hear ukulele.ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ฒ„์ „์€, ๋งˆ์น˜ do, do, do, do, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ์ฟจ๋ ๋ ˆ๋งŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:20
Vanessa: Yeah. Well, if youย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๋ญ, ํ˜น์‹œ
21:21
play the ukulele and you have any recommendations,ย  let me know in the comments, but my cheat answer,ย ย 
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์šฐ์ฟจ๋ ๋ ˆ ์—ฐ์ฃผ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ณ  ์ถ”์ฒœํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”๊ฑฐ ์žˆ์œผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š” ๊ทผ๋ฐ ์ œ ์น˜ํŠธ ๋‹ต์€
21:27
because I wasn't sure if it was a skillset or aย  character trait, but I said unlimited patience.ย ย 
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์‹ค๋ ฅ์ธ์ง€ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ธ์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์„œ ๋ฌดํ•œ์ธ๋‚ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:34
If I could wake up in the morning ... Dan:ย 
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์•„์นจ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด... ๋Œ„:
21:36
That's an education. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ต์œก์ด์—์š”. Vanessa:
21:37
... and oh, I guess you can learn patience. If Iย  could have unlimited patience with my children,ย ย 
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... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค, ์ธ๋‚ด์‹ฌ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฌดํ•œํ•œ ์ธ๋‚ด์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
21:44
that would be amazing, and with myself. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
21:46
They'd get away with you too much though. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
21:48
I don't know. I think you can be firm and also beย  patient. It doesn't mean you have no standards,ย ย 
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์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จํ˜ธํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ์ธ๋‚ด์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ธฐ์ค€์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:55
but I think that I would, yeah, just be able toย  be a little bit, I think you're always a betterย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š”, ์˜ˆ, ์กฐ๊ธˆ์€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
22:00
parent when you are more patient. Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋” ์ฐธ์„์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
22:03
They certainly test the patience. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ธ๋‚ด์‹ฌ์„ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
22:05
Yes. Unlimited patience would be awesome. Whatย  about you? If you could wake up tomorrow and haveย ย 
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๋„ค. ๋ฌด์ œํ•œ์˜ ์ธ๋‚ด์‹ฌ์€ ๊ต‰์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”? ๋‚ด์ผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์„œ
22:11
any education, talent, or skill set, what wouldย  it be? Would it be speaking English fluently,ย ย 
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๊ต์œก, ์žฌ๋Šฅ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์œ ์ฐฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ์š”,
22:19
or maybe it would be something else. Let us knowย  in the comments. Let's go to question number four.ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. 4๋ฒˆ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:24
Question number four is about travel. I'd likeย  to know where is the next place in the US thatย ย 
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๋„ค ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์—ฌํ–‰์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๋‹ค์Œ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:30
you'd like to visit? Dan:ย 
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Dan:
22:32
Oh, I've got to travel in the US? Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ด์š”? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
22:34
Yeah. I wanted it to be a little moreย  specific and it might be interesting toย ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข€ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
22:37
some of our international studentsย  to learn about places in the US.ย 
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์ผ๋ถ€ ์œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:40
Dan: I'm joking because there are a lot of amazingย ย 
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Dan:
22:43
places in the US, but I really love internationalย  cities like Europe and Asia. I just think they'reย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ณณ์ด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ๋†๋‹ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๋ฐ ์ €๋Š” ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์ด๋‚˜ ์•„์‹œ์•„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ตญ์ œ์ ์ธ ๋„์‹œ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด
22:52
so interesting. Vanessa:ย 
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22:52
I know. Dan:ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
์•Œ์•„์š”. Dan:
22:53
But the US has lots of beautiful naturalย  environments, so I would probably travelย ย 
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๊ทผ๋ฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ž์—ฐ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ
23:02
to Washington or Oregon. Vanessa:ย 
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์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด์ด๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ฆฌ๊ฑด์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
23:05
You know what? Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„? Dan:
23:06
You'd say the same thing. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
23:07
My first answer was the northwest, Seattle,ย  that area, Oregon, and I crossed it off.ย 
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ ๋ถ์„œ์ชฝ ์‹œ์• ํ‹€์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์€ ์˜ค๋ ˆ๊ณค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:13
Dan: Did you think that I was going to say that?ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜์–ด?
23:15
Vanessa: No, I thought of somewhereย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
23:16
I would rather visit first. Dan:ย 
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๋จผ์ € ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”. Dan:
23:18
Oh, I'm with you. Okay. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค, ๋‚˜๋„ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ์–ด. ์ข‹์•„์š”. Vanessa:
23:19
I'd like to go there too. Dan:ย 
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์ €๋„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”. ๋Œ„:
23:20
Yeah. The Pacific northwest because I've neverย  been there and it just looks so stunninglyย ย 
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๋„ค. ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ๋ถ์„œ๋ถ€๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๊ณ 
23:25
beautiful there, at least for part of the year.ย  It has really big mountains and really dense greenย ย 
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์ ์–ด๋„ 1๋…„ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž๋„๋ก ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์› ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ํฐ ์‚ฐ๊ณผ ์šธ์ฐฝํ•œ ๋…น์ƒ‰
23:32
forests, and it has the ocean as well. I reallyย  love a landscape that has lots of rocky features,ย ย 
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์ˆฒ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐ”์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ’๊ฒฝ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:41
but also the ocean. That's one of my favoriteย  kinds of landscapes. I would probably go there,ย ย 
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. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ’๊ฒฝ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:49
and it has really cool cities too. Seattle isย  a really awesome city and you could jump up,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋„์‹œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์• ํ‹€์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋„์‹œ์ด๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋›ฐ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:54
I mean I've never been there, but it looks reallyย  cool, and you can jump up to Vancouver as wellย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ ธ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐด์ฟ ๋ฒ„๋กœ๋„ ์˜ฌ๋ผ
23:59
and get that full Pacific northwest experience.ย  That's where I would choose. I could do lots ofย ย 
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ํƒœํ‰์–‘ ๋ถ์„œ๋ถ€ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์„ ํƒํ•  ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:05
outdoorsy stuff. I could see a different side ofย  the country and even do some urban things as well.ย 
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์•ผ์™ธ ํ™œ๋™์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฉด์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋„์‹œ์ ์ธ ์ผ๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:11
Vanessa: Yeah. That sounds like a fun place. In fact,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค,
24:13
one of my options too. Dan:ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์„ ํƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜ต์…˜ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
24:15
Yeah. What did you choose instead? Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋Œ€์‹  ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์„ ํƒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Vanessa:
24:18
Well, I thought about that. Dan:ย 
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์Œ, ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
24:19
Wait, let me guess. Grand Canyon. Vanessa:ย 
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์ž ๊น๋งŒ์š”. ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์บ๋…„. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
24:23
Close. Dan:ย 
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๋‹ซ์•„์š”. ๋Œ„:
24:25
New Mexico. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‰ด๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”์š”. Vanessa:
24:26
A little more general. Dan:ย 
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
24:27
Arizona. Vanessa:ย 
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์• ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋‚˜. Vanessa:
24:28
I said I want to rent an RV and have a bigย  tour of the west, southwest, national parks.ย 
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RV๋ฅผ ๋นŒ๋ ค์„œ ์„œ๋ถ€, ๋‚จ์„œ๋ถ€, ๊ตญ๋ฆฝ๊ณต์›์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ํˆฌ์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
24:38
Dan: Oh this is a regional thing.ย 
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Dan: ์•„, ์ด๊ฑด ์ง€์—ญ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:40
Vanessa: Yeah, because there's so manyย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
24:42
amazing national parks in the west, southwest,ย  not even southwest, but just the west of the US.ย ย 
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์„œ๋ถ€, ๋‚จ์„œ๋ถ€, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋‚จ์„œ๋ถ€๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์„œ๋ถ€์—๋งŒ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๊ตญ๋ฆฝ๊ณต์›์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
24:49
I think that would be an awesome two month journeyย  where you say I'm going to book a bunch of campingย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ์บ ํ•‘ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ์•ฝํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ 
24:56
places and you're not having to like tent camp.ย  I think that might be a little too intense for usย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ…ํŠธ ์บ ํ”„๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋˜๋Š” 2๊ฐœ์›”์˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์—ฌํ–‰์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ–ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„
25:00
for two months, but in an RV with ... Vanessa:ย 
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ RV์—์„œ ... Vanessa:
25:02
... Were intense for us for two months. But,ย  in an RV, it would still be in cool locations,ย ย 
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... ๋‘ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ RV๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ๊ณ 
25:05
maybe closer to the national parks,ย  and you get to see a lot. Because,ย ย 
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๊ตญ๋ฆฝ๊ณต์›์— ๋” ๊ฐ€๊น๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:11
two months ago, we went to Colorado,ย  in Colorado Springs and I'd never seenย ย 
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๋‘ ๋‹ฌ ์ „์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„ ์Šคํ”„๋ง์Šค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์— ๊ฐ”๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”
25:18
the Rocky Mountains or that area of the U.S.ย  And I was blown away. It is so beautiful. Yeah,ย ย 
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๋กœํ‚ค ์‚ฐ๋งฅ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊นœ์ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฑฐ ์ •๋ง ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ,
25:26
I've been reading some books about that areaย  of the U.S., and historical fiction about theย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ฑ… ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์—ญ์‚ฌ ์†Œ์„ค์„ ์ฝ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:33
history there. And yeah, I'm fascinated. I thinkย  that would be really cool to check out some ofย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๋งค๋ฃŒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:37
the history, check out some beautiful places.ย  We like hiking, so it seems like a good fit.ย 
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์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ ์ž˜ ๋งž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:42
Dan: Yeah. And it's very differentย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
25:43
from where we live now. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
25:45
Yeah. Surprisingly, so. Dan:ย 
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25:45
Yeah. So, I chose the wettest part ofย  the country and you chose the driest.ย 
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๋„ค. ๋†€๋ž๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์Šตํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฑด์กฐํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:50
Vanessa: Yeah. Yeah. I thinkย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์‘.
25:54
that was really shocking to me, when weย  went to Colorado. It's super dry there.ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ๊ทธ๊ณณ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฑด์กฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:58
And I've been in dry climates before- Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด์ „์— ๊ฑด์กฐํ•œ ๊ธฐํ›„์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
26:00
And, Arizona is way drier. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์• ๋ฆฌ์กฐ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ฑด์กฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
26:02
... Oh, I bet. Yeah, there's deserts there. Dan:ย 
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... ์•„, ์žฅ๋‹ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์‚ฌ๋ง‰์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
26:04
Mm-hmm. Vanessa:ย 
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26:04
But I feel like, being somewhereย  like that, even though the U.S.ย ย 
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์Œ-ํ . Vanessa:
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€
26:11
is the same country, it feels so different,ย  that it does feel like you've gone almost intoย ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋‚˜๋ผ์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์ ธ์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ
26:18
a different world when you visit differentย  climates like that and different geography.ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ธฐํ›„์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๊ฐ„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
26:21
Dan: It is veryย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ
26:22
easily could be many countries. Vanessa:ย 
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์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
26:24
Oh, it could very easily be. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค, ์•„์ฃผ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
26:25
Maybe it should be. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
26:26
Many countries. So, I want to know for you, ifย  you live in the U.S. or if you got the chance toย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
26:32
visit the U.S., where would you like to visit?ย  Where's the first place that you would like to goย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋””๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ณณ์€ ์–ด๋””์ธ๊ฐ€์š”
26:38
if you got to come to the U.S.? Let us know in theย  comments. And, let's go to question number four. Iย ย 
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? ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š” . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , 4๋ฒˆ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”
26:43
actually meant question number five. Dan:ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ 5๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
26:44
Whoops. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ. Vanessa:
26:45
So question number five, the topic is food. Dan:ย 
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๋‹ค์„ฏ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
26:48
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
26:49
Something that we love. I wouldย  like to know what is a food fromย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ. ๋‚˜๋Š”
26:53
your travels, our travels, thatย  you wish you could have again?ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์—ฌํ–‰, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์—ฌํ–‰์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์Œ์‹์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:57
Dan: Man, this is the hardest question,ย ย 
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Dan: ์ด๋ด, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด์•ผ.
27:00
because we've had so many delicious meals in ourย  travels. And we just love different food as well.ย 
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ง›์žˆ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“  . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์Œ์‹๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:09
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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27:09
Dan: And this is very tied up in nostalgia for me too,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์— ์ –์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:13
because we lived in South Korea for three years.ย  And, the meals were so different from America,ย ย 
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ 3๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ด์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์‹์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ณ ,
27:20
and distinct, and we actually enjoyed them. So,ย  now I can't get them the same way. So, if youย ย 
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๋…ํŠนํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด์ œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
27:27
go to a Korean restaurant in America, you're goingย  to spend a lot more to get something that isn't asย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ์‹๋‹น์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒํผ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:34
probably as quality as what you'd get there. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
27:36
It's a different atmosphere, all of that. Dan:ย 
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๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์š”. Dan:
27:39
So I had a tough decision to make. So, I choseย  a meal called [foreign language 00:27:46].ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ [์™ธ๊ตญ์–ด 00:27:46]์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:45
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
27:47
Dan: Which means three layered flesh in Korean.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ง๋กœ ์‚ผ๊ฒน์‚ด์ด๋ž€ ๋œป.
27:50
Vanessa: Thick bacon, basically.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‘๊บผ์šด ๋ฒ ์ด์ปจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:52
Dan: It's bacon. It's thick bacon. But,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ฒ ์ด์ปจ์ด์•ผ. ๋‘ํˆผํ•œ ๋ฒ ์ด์ปจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ์‹๋‹น์—์„œ
27:55
you would cook this on a grill in front of youย  in a restaurant with lots of people and you'dย ย 
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์•ž์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฆด์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ 
28:00
hit a little bell and it goes dingdong. And thenย  waitress says, " [foreign language 00:28:05]." Andย ย 
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์ž‘์€ ๋ฒจ์„ ๋ˆŒ๋ €์„ ๋•Œ ๋”ฉ๋™์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์›จ์ดํŠธ๋ฆฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ "[์™ธ๊ตญ์–ด 00:28:05]"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
28:05
she fills up your water. It's more a wholeย  experience than just the food. But if-ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ฑ„์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์Œ์‹์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŒ์•ฝ-
28:10
Vanessa: If you finish your side dishes, they'll bring youย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋ฐ˜์ฐฌ์„ ๋‹ค ๋จน์œผ๋ฉด
28:12
endless amounts of other side dishes. Dan:ย 
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๋์—†์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐ˜์ฐฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค ์ค„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๋Œ„:
28:15
... Yes. Endless side dishes. So, it's not reallyย  just one thing, it's more of the whole experience.ย ย 
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... ๋„ค. ๋์—†๋Š” ๋ฐ‘๋ฐ˜์ฐฌ๋“ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:22
And it has a lot of nostalgia for us, because youย  can't really get the same thing here. You can,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•  ์ˆ˜
28:28
but it's just not quite the same. Vanessa:ย 
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
28:30
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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28:30
And it was always delicious, especially inย  South Korea. Even us, relatively thin people,ย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ง›์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ํŠนํžˆ ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”์š”. ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ ์”ฌํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„
28:38
we lost weight when we went to South Korea,ย  because it's just way less rich food in general,ย ย 
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ ์‚ด์ด ๋น ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํ•œ๊ตญ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹๋‹จ์— ๋น„ํ•ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋œ ๊ธฐ๋ฆ„์ง„ ์Œ์‹์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:44
compared to American diets. And, we didn't haveย  very much money, so we didn't eat this all theย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ˆ์ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋จน์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:50
time. We just ate it sometimes. So, that wasย  always a winner. And, I have to add another one,ย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋” ๋จน์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์Šน์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:55
because we have traveled in Europe as well.ย  And, technically this meal is tastier,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด ์‹์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋ง›์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:02
I'm thinking of... Can you guess? Vanessa:ย 
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”... ์ง์ž‘์ด ๊ฐ€์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? Vanessa:
29:06
Cinque Terre. Dan:ย 
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์นœํ€˜ํ…Œ๋ ˆ. ๋Œ„:
29:07
Yep. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
29:08
Cinque Terre. Dan:ย 
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์นœํ€˜ํ…Œ๋ ˆ. ๋Œ„:
29:09
Yes. There was a seafood meal we ate in Cinqueย  Terre that had... I don't even remember what weย ย 
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๋„ค. Cinque Terre์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋จน์€ ํ•ด์‚ฐ๋ฌผ ์‹์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ... ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋จน์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์กฐ์ฐจ ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:17
ate, fish, pasta. Vanessa:ย 
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. ์ƒ์„ , ํŒŒ์Šคํƒ€. Vanessa:
29:19
I had a octopus. Dan:ย 
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๋ฌธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. Dan:
29:20
Amazing wine. Vanessa:ย 
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์™€์ธ. Vanessa:
29:22
And pasta meat thing. Yeah. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŒŒ์Šคํƒ€ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋„์š”. ์‘. ๋Œ„:
29:24
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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29:24
Crazy. Dan:ย 
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29:24
And, that was also a good vibe. Nostalgicย  experience. Because, when I think back to it, weย ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด. Dan:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ข‹์€ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ์˜€์–ด. ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ—˜. ๋Œ์ด์ผœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
29:33
did a lot of beautiful hikes on that trip. Andย  then, we ended in the last little town and ate atย ย 
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๊ทธ ์—ฌํ–‰์—์„œ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„์—์„œ ๋๋‚ด๊ณ 
29:39
that restaurant and it was really delicious. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ ์‹๋‹น์—์„œ ๋จน์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ๋ง›์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
29:41
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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29:41
So, it all worked out perfectly. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
29:42
Even if we go back there, it will be a differentย  vibe and different feel, because like you said,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋„ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ์™€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
29:47
I think, food is really tied to nostalgia. So,ย  the atmosphere and you can't just eat the foodย ย 
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์Œ์‹์€ ์ •๋ง ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ์™€ ์Œ์‹๋งŒ ๋”ฐ๋กœ ๋จน์„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:53
separately from anything else. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
29:55
Bing bong. Vanessa:ย 
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๋น™๋ด‰. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
29:56
Yeah. We don't have bells onย  the table to call the waitress.ย 
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๋„ค. ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์— ์›จ์ดํŠธ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ˜ธ์ถœํ•  ๋ฒจ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:00
Dan: If you're Korean and watching this,ย ย 
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Dan: ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ์ด๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
30:01
you're like, "What's the big deal about that?" Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ "๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด?" Vanessa:
30:04
But for us- Dan:ย 
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30:04
But for us, it's just so, "This is so funny and-"ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”- Dan:
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” '์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฐŒ๊ณ -'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:07
Vanessa: ... It was so great. And yeah,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ... ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•˜์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค,
30:09
we love that experience. Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
30:10
... Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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... ๋„ค. Vanessa:
30:11
Mine is- Dan:ย 
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30:11
So how about you? Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์€- Dan:
๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋„Œ ์–ด๋•Œ? ์˜ˆ. Vanessa:
30:12
... Very similar. In fact, yeah- Dan:ย 
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... ๋งค์šฐ ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜- ๋Œ„:
30:16
Was it the same meal? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ์‹์‚ฌ์˜€์–ด? Vanessa:
30:17
... No, I thought about saying, not specificallyย  some [inaudible 00:30:22], but just eatingย ย 
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... ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ[๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Œ 00:30:22], ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
30:23
outside. It's basically on a sidewalk, there'sย  little plastic tables and you're cooking thisย ย 
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๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๋จน์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋„์— ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž‘์€ ํ”Œ๋ผ์Šคํ‹ฑ ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
30:29
type of thing that Dan's talking about. But, theย  one that I thought about was also in Korea becauseย ย 
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Dan์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚œ ๊ณณ๋„ ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
30:34
there's a lot of nostalgia. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›€์ด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ์š”. Dan:
30:35
Is it [inaudible 00:30:37]? Vanessa:ย 
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[๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Œ 00:30:37]์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? Vanessa:
30:39
I almost said [inaudible 00:30:39]. Dan:ย 
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30:39
I thought that too. Vanessa:ย 
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30:39
I almost said [inaudible 00:30:40]. Dan:ย 
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30:39
It's not always the best food,ย  but the environment was perfect.ย 
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๊ฑฐ์˜ [๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Œ 00:30:39]๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋ป”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
์ €๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
๊ฑฐ์˜ [๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Œ 00:30:40]๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋ป”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์Œ์‹์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:43
Vanessa: Yeah. But what I said also because I likeย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€
30:45
the food so much is a meal called dak-galbi. Dan:ย 
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์Œ์‹์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋‹ญ๊ฐˆ๋น„๋ผ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
30:48
Oh. Vanessa:ย 
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30:48
And, there was a restaurant specifically theย  restaurant that we went to often in Incheon, whichย ย 
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์˜ค. Vanessa:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ํŠนํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ 2๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ด์•˜๋˜ ๋„์‹œ์ธ ์ธ์ฒœ์— ์ž์ฃผ ๊ฐ”๋˜ ์‹๋‹น์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”
30:54
was the city we lived in for the first two yearsย  in Korea. And, our first week living there, it wasย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ƒํ™œํ•œ ์ฒซ ์ฃผ๋Š”
31:00
my birthday in September. And, we went thereย  with a bunch of new friends. And, I had neverย ย 
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9์›”์— ์ œ ์ƒ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ,
31:07
eaten something like this before, where we satย  at a table, and they had a burner on the table,ย ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์Œ์‹์€ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋จน์–ด๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์— ์•‰์•„์„œ, ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์— ๋ฒ„๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
31:11
and they had all the ingredientsย  there, and it was uncooked chicken,ย ย 
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์žฌ๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ƒ๋‹ญ,
31:15
cabbage, rice cakes, all of these things,ย  carrots, the sauce. It was all in this thing. And,ย ย 
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๋ฐฐ์ถ”, ๋–ก, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค ์žˆ๋”๋ผ. , ๋‹น๊ทผ, ์†Œ์Šค. ์ด ์ผ์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ,
31:21
the person who was the server was helping to- Dan:ย 
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์„œ๋ฒ„์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋„์™€์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ- ๋Œ„:
31:25
She tossed it up. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋˜์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
31:26
... Helping to cook it. And we wereย  all just sitting there and watchingย ย 
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... ์š”๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋•์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์•‰์•„์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
31:29
it. It's very different from an Americanย  hibachi experience. That's a similarย ย 
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. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ํžˆ๋ฐ”์น˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๊ณผ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
31:35
experience or similar idea where someone isย  cooking in front of you, but this was different,ย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹  ์•ž์—์„œ ์š”๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด๋‚˜ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ฌ๋ž๊ณ 
31:41
much more casual. Dan:ย 
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์บ์ฃผ์–ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
31:43
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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31:43
And I remember sitting there for myย  birthday, surrounded by all theseย ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ์ผ๋‚ 
31:47
new friends, in a new city, eating this food thatย  I thought was so exciting, and they're cooking itย ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋„์‹œ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์— ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ์—ฌ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์•‰์•„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‹ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ด ์Œ์‹์„ ๋จน๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
31:52
in front of us. And it is amazingly delicious. Dan:ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋†€๋ž๋„๋ก ๋ง›์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
31:54
Mm-hmm. It was very yummy. Vanessa:ย 
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์Œ-ํ . ์•„์ฃผ ๋ง›์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
31:55
And, that place is, yeah, full of so manyย  memories. So, whenever someone came to visit usย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ์ถ”์–ต์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€
32:00
from the U.S., or we made a new friend, we wouldย  always go to that restaurant. And then, the thirdย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ทˆ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ ์‹๋‹น์— ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
32:05
year we lived in South Korea, we moved to aย  city called Suan, which is about an hour away.ย ย 
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ๊ฑฐ์ฃผํ•œ ์ง€ 3๋…„์งธ ๋˜๋Š” ํ•ด์— ์•ฝ 1์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์•ˆ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋„์‹œ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:10
And, after that year, that restaurant closed. No. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ํ•ด ์ดํ›„ ๊ทธ ์‹๋‹น์€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค. Dan:
32:16
No. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. Vanessa:
32:18
So, when this question says, somethingย  you wish you could try again,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€
32:21
this will always be just a wish. Dan:ย 
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ํฌ๋ง์‚ฌํ•ญ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
32:24
I'm sure that lady opened upย  another restaurant, right?ย 
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๊ทธ ๋ถ€์ธ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹๋‹น์„ ์—ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋งž์ฃ ?
32:26
Vanessa: I hope so. Iย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”
32:27
hope she is world renowned as amazing dak-galbiย  restaurant, because we had dak-galbi also in Suan,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๋‹ญ๊ฐˆ๋น„ ์‹๋‹น์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์•ˆ์—์„œ๋„ ๋‹ญ๊ฐˆ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋จน์—ˆ๊ณ 
32:34
and that was nice. That lady was super nice.ย  We talked through Google translate a lot.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์ž๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์นœ์ ˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” Google ๋ฒˆ์—ญ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:38
Dan: Yeah. Their dak-galbi was good too.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ dak-galbi๋„ ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:41
Vanessa: Yeah, but there something aboutย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
32:42
that first place that really- Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง- Dan:
32:44
It had the nostalgia. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
32:45
... It has a special place in myย  heart. So, that's what I would say.ย 
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... ์ œ ๋งˆ์Œ ์†์—๋Š” ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ž๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:47
Dan: It is funny though,ย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋„ค์š”.
32:48
we would take Korean people there andย  they'd be like, "Yeah, it's pretty good."ย 
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ํ•œ๊ตญ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€๋ฉด "๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ฝค ๋ง›์žˆ์–ด."
32:52
Vanessa: But for us, that was-ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ...
32:54
Dan: We're like, "This is so awesome."ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” "์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ด."
32:55
Vanessa: ... So fun. Yeah. Anyway, you can see,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ... ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์žฌ๋ฐŒ์–ด์š”. ์‘. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
32:57
we get very excited about food. Now, maybe I knowย  why our children are also excited about food.ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค๋„ ์Œ์‹์— ์—ด๊ด‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์•Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:03
They're crazed about food, so. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์Œ์‹์— ์—ด๊ด‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
33:04
It's because their kids. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„์ด๋“ค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
33:06
Yeah. But some kids are very picky. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊นŒ๋‹ค ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
33:08
Well, that's true. Yeah, they doย  like more food than average kids.ย 
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์Œ, ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์Œ์‹์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:10
Vanessa: Our kids love all this type of stuffย ย 
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒํผ์ด๋‚˜ ์—ด์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:12
just as passionately as us. All right. So I have aย  question for you. What is a food from your travelsย ย 
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. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌํ–‰์—์„œ
33:19
that you wish you could have again? It might beย  because it was good. It might be because of theย ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์Œ์‹์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ข‹์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ๋˜
33:23
vibe, and the atmosphere, and the memories, theย  nostalgia, like what we talked about. Let us knowย ย 
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๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ, ์ถ”์–ต, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›€ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ
33:29
in the comments what food you wish you could haveย  again, and we'll learn about food from around theย ย 
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๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์Œ์‹์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ์•„ ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:33
world. All right, let's go to the next question,ย  question number six. I think we're on six.ย 
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. ์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ 6๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 6์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:39
Dan: Yeah.ย 
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33:39
Vanessa: All right, question number six.ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
Vanessa: ์ข‹์•„์š”, 6๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:41
Question number six is about nature. Thisย  is maybe a little silly of a question,ย ย 
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์—ฌ์„ฏ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ž์—ฐ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„
33:47
but that's okay. Dan:ย 
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
33:48
We like critters, so that's okay. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
33:49
Yeah, as you can tell. So, this question is, ifย  you could have any defense mechanism of an animal,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ์š”. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋™๋ฌผ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
33:58
what would you have? So if you couldย  have that type of defense mechanismย ย 
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๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š๋ƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์„
34:02
in your body or become you- Dan:ย 
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๋ชธ์— ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด- ๋Œ„:
34:04
In my body. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚ด ๋ชธ์—. Vanessa:
34:05
... Yes. What would it be? So can we maybeย  explain quickly what a defense mechanism is?ย 
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... ๋„ค. ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋ ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
34:09
Dan: Yeah, sure. So, aย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
34:10
defense mechanism is something that an animal hasย  or uses a feature that protects it from predators.ย 
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๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์€ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํฌ์‹์ž๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:17
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
34:18
Dan: Or is a way to either get the predatorย ย 
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Dan: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํฌ์‹์ž๊ฐ€
34:21
to go away or escape the predator. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํฌ์‹์ž์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋„๋ง์น˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
34:23
So maybe quills on a porcupine, something likeย  this. And we can even say humans have a defenseย ย 
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ํ˜ธ์ €์˜ ๊นƒํŽœ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์š” . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธ๊ฐ„์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:30
mechanism. We might use that emotionally. Dan:ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
34:32
Oh yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ. Vanessa:
34:33
To say, "Oh, why is he always making jokes?"ย  It's actually a defense mechanism becauseย ย 
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"์˜ค, ์™œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋†๋‹ด๋งŒ ํ•ด์š”?" ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
34:41
he experienced a lot of trauma in hisย  life, and joking, and laughing helps him toย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋†๋‹ด๊ณผ ์›ƒ์Œ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€
34:49
not feel so vulnerable. Dan:ย 
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์ทจ์•ฝํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ฃผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๊ธฐ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
34:50
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
34:51
Or something like this. It's a more of anย  emotional thing. So you can have a defenseย ย 
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๋˜๋Š” ์ด์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ์ด์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
34:54
mechanism as a human, but I want to know, in aย  silly way, if you could imagine having an animal'sย ย 
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์ธ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋™๋ฌผ์˜
35:00
defense mechanism, what would it be? Dan:ย 
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๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
35:03
Mine would be... This isย  a little bit of a cop out.ย 
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๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ด... ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:05
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
35:06
Dan: Flying.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋น„ํ–‰.
35:07
Vanessa: Oh.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
35:08
Dan: Because now we don't reallyย ย 
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Dan: ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
35:10
associate flying with just defense, butย  it can certainly be used as a defense,ย ย 
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๋น„ํ–‰์„ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์–ด์™€ ์—ฐ๊ด€์‹œํ‚ค์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ, ๋น„ํ–‰์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋ฐฉ์–ด๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ
35:16
so a bird will fly away when you come near it. Andย  we were talking about it earlier and saying thatย ย 
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์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ์˜ค๋ฉด ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์ „์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ๊ณ 
35:23
flying probably evolved as a defense mechanism forย  an animal to get out of the way from a predatorย ย 
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๋‚ ๊ฐœ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ํฌ์‹์ž๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
35:30
really efficiently and effectively. Vanessa:ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ํšจ์œจ์ ์ด๊ณ  ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์œผ๋กœ ์ง„ํ™”ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
35:32
Yeah, I almost said flying too for this one. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ์ €๋„ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋ป”ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋Œ„:
35:33
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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35:33
It's a good one. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
35:34
So, I mean, but who doesn't want to fly? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹จ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
35:36
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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35:36
I mean, of course then youย  have to be really lightweightย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์›Œ์•ผ
35:39
and you're probably not very intimidating.ย  And then, you have to be a bat or a bird.ย 
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณ„๋กœ ์œ„ํ˜‘์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ฐ•์ฅ๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:43
Vanessa: You could be an Eagle.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋…์ˆ˜๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:44
Dan: But, if I could still be me and fly,ย ย 
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‚˜์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
35:47
then I would choose that. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
35:48
Yeah, just imagine, you're walking down a darkย  alley, I don't know why you're walking down aย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋‘์šด ๊ณจ๋ชฉ์„ ๊ฑท๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์™œ
35:52
dark alley, and then somebody dangerousย  steps out and all of a sudden your wingsย ย 
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์–ด๋‘์šด ๊ณจ๋ชฉ์„ ๊ฑท๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€
35:57
open up and you fly away. Dan:ย 
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ํŽด์ง€๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. . Dan:
35:58
Ooh, they pop out of my back like an angel. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค, ์ฒœ์‚ฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‚ด ๋“ฑ์—์„œ ํŠ€์–ด๋‚˜์™€. Vanessa:
36:00
That's it. Yeah, that's it. I think there'sย  some X-Men or superhero or somethingย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. X-Men์ด๋‚˜ ์Šˆํผํžˆ์–ด๋กœ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
36:05
that does that. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
36:06
Oh, yeah, probably. Weย  don't know about that stuff.ย 
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์•„, ๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:07
Dan: Bird man.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ฒ„๋“œ๋งจ.
36:08
Vanessa: Bird man. Is that a-ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฒ„๋“œ๋งจ. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ-
36:09
Dan: Or Batman, squawk man.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ฐฐํŠธ๋งจ, ์Šค์›ฉ๋งจ.
36:11
Vanessa: ... Eagle man.ย 
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Vanessa: ... ๋…์ˆ˜๋ฆฌ ๋‚จ์ž.
36:13
Dan: Eagle man.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ด๊ธ€๋งจ.
36:14
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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36:14
Dan: Raven man. Robin man.ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
๋Œ„: ๋ ˆ์ด๋ธ๋งจ. ๋กœ๋นˆ๋งจ.
36:16
Robin. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚จ์ž ์ด๋ฆ„. Vanessa:
36:17
California condo man. Dan:ย 
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์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„ ์ฝ˜๋„ ๋งจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
36:18
Blue bird man. Vanessa:ย 
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ํŒŒ๋ž‘์ƒˆ ์‚ฌ๋‚˜์ด. Vanessa:
36:19
These are all the birds we know. Okay, well- Dan:ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
36:22
And we're not into superheroes, so. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Šˆํผํžˆ์–ด๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. Vanessa:
36:23
... Flying is a good one. I almost said that.ย  And you know what? I think, I have somethingย ย 
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... ๋น„ํ–‰์€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„?
36:28
different I'd like to share. But, I think for meย  actually flying is probably more realistic. Notย ย 
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๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋น„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:35
like I can actually fly, but because if I'm facedย  with danger, I'm probably more likely to flee.ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ง๋ฉดํ•˜๋ฉด ๋„๋ง์น  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋” ๋†’๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:42
Dan: Oh, yeah.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
36:43
Vanessa: Than to fight. So, we call this fight or flight.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์‹ธ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ํˆฌ์Ÿ ๋˜๋Š” ๋„ํ”ผ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ •์„œ์ ์œผ๋กœ
36:46
When you're in a dangerous situation, eitherย  dangerous physically or dangerous emotionally,ย ย 
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์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
36:53
we say, "Oh, your fight or flight kicks in."ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” "์˜ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‹ธ์›€์ด๋‚˜ ๋„ํ”ผ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ž‘๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:56
So, either you fight and you tryย  to win or you flee. So, that's-ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ณ  ์ด๊ธฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„๋ง์น˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‘˜ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ-
37:02
Dan: Run away.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„๋ง์ณ.
37:03
Vanessa: ... The flight part. You're not actually flying,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ...๋น„ํ–‰ ๋ถ€๋ถ„. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚ ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
37:05
but maybe you try to run away from that dangerousย  situation. And I think for me, that's more true.ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ๋„๋ง์น˜๋ ค ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:10
I'm more likely to run away from danger. Dan:ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์œ„ํ—˜์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋„๋ง์น  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋” ๋†’๋‹ค. Dan:
37:13
Lady folk, in general. Vanessa:ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ ˆ์ด๋”” ํฌํฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
37:14
But I said something dinner... Dinner?ย  Different. I said something different.ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ €๋…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ... ์ €๋…? ๋‹ค๋ฅธ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
37:19
Dan: Food is still on her mind.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์Œ์‹์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚œ๋‹ค.
37:20
Vanessa: Oh, food. I said somethingย ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์Œ์‹. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
37:22
different. I said, a horny toad, which is actuallyย  a type of lizard. A horny toad has something veryย ย 
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋„๋งˆ๋ฑ€์˜ ์ผ์ข…์ธ ๋ฟ”๋‘๊บผ๋น„๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœ์ •๋‚œ ๋‘๊บผ๋น„๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
37:28
interesting that they do. They, when faced withย  danger can stop their blood flow to their heart.ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ง๋ฉดํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์‹ฌ์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ํ˜ˆ๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:37
Their blood fills up in them and they shootย  blood out of their eyes at their aggressor. What?ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํ”ผ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค ์•ˆ์— ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ์„œ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ž๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋ฟœ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡?
37:45
Dan: Into their aggressor's eyes?ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์นจ๋žต์ž์˜ ๋ˆˆ์œผ๋กœ?
37:47
Vanessa: At least at their aggressor. And the bloodย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ ์–ด๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ž์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ”ผ๋Š”
37:49
isn't venomous or anything like this, it's justย  shocking. So, I thought it would be hilarious.ย 
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๋…์ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ทธ์ € ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:55
Dan: That would shock me.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ €๋ฅผ ๋†€๋ผ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:57
Vanessa: If, "Oh, hi, I'm Vanessa. Nice Vanessa."ย ย 
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Vanessa: "์˜ค, ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ €๋Š” Vanessa์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ Vanessa์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
38:00
And then, somebody is a bad person and I justย  went bzz and shot blood out my eyes at them.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํฅ์–ผ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ํ”ผ๋ฅผ ํ˜๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:06
Dan: Yeah.ย 
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38:06
Vanessa: I think it would be so shockingย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
Vanessa:
38:08
that I could be saved. Dan:ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ์›๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋Œ„:
38:10
Sure. Vanessa:ย 
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38:10
But, maybe flying is something I wouldย  realistically be more likely to do.ย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . Vanessa:
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋น„ํ–‰์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋” ๋†’์€ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:16
Oh, I probably would fly away instead ofย  fighting. But, shooting blood out of yourย ย 
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์•„, ์‹ธ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ํ”ผ๋ฅผ ํ˜๋ฆฐ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”
38:20
eyes if you're in danger? Dan:ย 
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? Dan:
38:22
It's not going to win you a lot of dates. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋”ฐ๋‚ด์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
38:24
No. Dan:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. Dan:
38:25
"Hey, baby." Vanessa:ย 
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"ํ—ค์ด, ์ž๊ธฐ์•ผ." Vanessa:
38:27
"Look what I can do." Yeah, but isn't that crazy,ย  that it's actually a lizard, but the horn toadย ย 
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"๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ด." ๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ๋„๋งˆ๋ฑ€์ธ๋ฐ ๋ฟ”๋‘๊บผ๋น„๊ฐ€
38:33
can shoot blood out of its eyes? How in the world-ย 
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๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ํ”ผ๋ฅผ ์  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋ฏธ์นœ ๊ฑฐ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋„๋Œ€์ฒด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ-
38:38
Dan: And how does that even help it?ย 
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38:38
Vanessa: ... Did even nature decide to do this?ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋‚˜์š”?
Vanessa: ... ์ž์—ฐ๋„ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•œ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
38:40
Dan: I don't know.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
38:41
Vanessa: I mean, it must beย ย 
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38:41
in danger in some ways that it goes away, it makesย  stuff go away because of that. Anyway, crazy, so.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด ๋ง์€,
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฉด์—์„œ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ฒ˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด.
38:47
Dan: The animal is just so disgusted,ย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ ๋™๋ฌผ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ˜์˜ค์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์„œ
38:49
it doesn't want to eat it. Vanessa:ย 
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๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
38:50
I know. "You got blood shooting out of your eyes.ย  What?" So, I want to know for you, if you couldย ย 
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์•Œ์•„์š”. "๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ํ”ผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ์–ด. ๋ญ?" ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
38:55
have any animal's defense mechanism, what would itย  be? There are many crazy things out there. Thereย ย 
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๋™๋ฌผ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡ ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฏธ์นœ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:02
are ants that shoot acid, there are porcupinesย  that have quills. This is a great way to expandย ย 
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์‚ฐ์„ ์˜๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณ ์Šด๋„์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
39:08
your vocabulary in a fun way. If you would like,ย  you can type into Google amazing animal defenseย ย 
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ์–ดํœ˜๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ Google์˜ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๋™๋ฌผ ๋ฐฉ์–ด ๋ฉ”์ปค๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์„ ์ž…๋ ฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
39:16
mechanisms. And you'll see many lists of coolย  things that animals do if you like that stuff.ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:21
So I want to know, let me know in the comments,ย  what would you like to defend yourself with?ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๋ฌด์—‡์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐฉ์–ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
39:26
All right, let's go to our next question. Dan:ย 
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์ž, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
39:28
"Caw." Vanessa:ย 
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"๊นŒ์•…." Vanessa:
39:30
Question number seven is about holidays.ย ย 
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7๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ํœด์ผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:34
The question is, what is your favorite holidayย  tradition? And I have a feeling that we mightย ย 
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ช…์ ˆ ์ „ํ†ต์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
39:40
have the same one. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
39:41
We had to have. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
39:42
So do you want to say it at the same time? Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋™์‹œ์— ๋งํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋Œ„:
39:44
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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39:44
On three? Dan:ย 
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39:44
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
3์‹œ์š”? ๋Œ„:
๋„ค. Vanessa:
39:45
Okay. 3, 2, 1, Dan:ย 
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39:45
Christmas tree. Vanessa:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 3, 2, 1, ๋‹จ:
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ. Vanessa:
39:48
Decorating the Christmas tree. Dan:ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ ์žฅ์‹. ๋Œ„:
39:50
Yes. Decorating the Christmas tree. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žฅ์‹ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
39:51
Yeah. Okay. Why don't you explain first? Whyย  do you like decorating the Christmas tree?ย 
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๋„ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ์™œ ๋จผ์ € ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ ์žฅ์‹์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
39:55
Dan: Man. There's probablyย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‚จ์ž. ์•„๋งˆ๋„
39:57
a lot of reasons. One primary reason is thatย  this is a tradition that our family always did.ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃผ๋œ ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ์ „ํ†ต์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:03
Vanessa: Mm-hmm.ย 
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Vanessa: ์Œ-ํ .
40:04
Dan: So it has a lot of nostalgia tied up into it.ย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋ฌถ์—ฌ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:07
And we don't have a lot of other traditions thatย  our family always did. So there's Thanksgiving,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ „ํ†ต์€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:14
which is, you have a meal and you talk aboutย  what you're thankful for. And that's anotherย ย 
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์ฆ‰, ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•œ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ
40:19
big one. But, maybe it's just because youย  put presents under a tree that, as a kid,ย ย 
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ํฐ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ฆ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์•„๋ž˜์— ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋‘์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
40:25
you just can't get enough of Christmas. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
40:28
And now? Dan:ย 
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€์š”? ๋Œ„:
40:29
Yes. And now, I really enjoy picking out aย  Christmas tree. We're really nature-y. So,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
40:35
we get a real Christmas tree and I like theย  smell of the pine. It just hits all of theย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง„์งœ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์†Œ๋‚˜๋ฌด ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋“ 
40:40
right senses and feelings. And then, you getย  to decorate it. So, your kids are excited,ย ย 
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์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๊ฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์žฅ์‹ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์‹ ์ด ๋‚ฌ๊ณ ,
40:47
and you get to hang up all the stuff, and putย  up the lights, and there's a whole process. And,ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๋Š๊ณ , ๋ถˆ์„ ์ผœ๊ณ , ์ „์ฒด ๊ณผ์ •์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
40:52
it's funny because it's probably the mostย  useless thing that we do, but it's one ofย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์“ธ๋ชจ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ
40:56
the best things. Vanessa:ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์ผ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
40:57
Yeah. I think, even before we hadย  kids, this was a big deal for us.ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ธฐ ์ „์—๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:00
Dan: Of course.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
41:01
Vanessa: In our marriage,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ
41:03
because yeah, it's something that you do withย  your parents growing up. And then, for us,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ,
41:10
when we got married and we started doingย  that with each other, it felt like,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์„œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
41:15
"Oh, this is our new life. This is us.ย  We're doing this together." And you're-ย 
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"์•„, ์ด๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ถ์ด์•ผ. ์ด๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์•ผ. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฑธ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด." ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€-
41:19
Dan: We're starting the new generation.ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์„ธ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:21
Vanessa: ... Yeah, our new traditions. We're doing this inย ย 
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ „ํ†ต. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ์ผ์„
41:23
our own way. Yeah, it felt different. I said thatย  for me, because when I was a kid, we didn't have aย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”
41:31
real Christmas tree, we had a fake tree. But evenย  in that, I was so excited about it. First of all,ย ย 
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์ง„์งœ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์งœ ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์—์„œ๋„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‹ ์ด ๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ์„ ,
41:37
I'll set the stage, my mom popped popcorn. So, weย  ate popcorn and it smelled great. We listened toย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์„ธํŒ…ํ• ๊ฒŒ, ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ํŒ์ฝ˜์„ ํ„ฐ๋œจ๋ ธ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํŒ์ฝ˜์„ ๋จน์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ข‹์€ ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
41:44
Christmas music. Dan:ย 
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41:44
Always good. Vanessa:ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
41:45
And then, we all sat in the livingย  room, and because we had a fake tree,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฑฐ์‹ค์— ์•‰์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ฐ€์งœ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
41:49
there's different fake trees, but the kind weย  had, there was a stem in the middle and it hadย ย 
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์งœ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ข…๋ฅ˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ์— ์ค„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
41:56
different holes and you could hook the branchesย  in and the branches had different colored ringsย ย 
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๊ตฌ๋ฉ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ž๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋ญ‡๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์ง€์— ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒ‰์˜ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด
42:00
on them, so you could see the big ones are on theย  bottom. But, because these were closed in a boxย ย 
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ํฐ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋ž˜์ชฝ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ 1๋…„ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ƒ์ž ์•ˆ์— ์ž ๊ฒจ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
42:07
the entire year, they were flat. So, weย  would all sit around the Christmas tree,ย ย 
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ํ‰ํ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ ์ฃผ์œ„์— ์•‰์•„
42:11
bending the branches to look realistic. So, weย  would bend each of the little branches on it andย ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋„๋ก ๋‚˜๋ญ‡๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋ถ€๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์œ„์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋ถ€๋ฆฐ
42:16
then put it in. And we'd look at each other's andย  say, "Oh, that one doesn't look good." Or, "Oh,ย ย 
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๋‹ค์Œ ๊ฝ‚์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ์˜ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋ฉฐ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š” "์˜ค,
42:20
that was really great." Dan:ย 
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์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•˜์–ด." Dan:
42:21
This is all blasphemy to me. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด๊ฑด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์‹ ์„ฑ๋ชจ๋…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
42:23
Because you always had a real tree. Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ง„์งœ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. Dan:
42:24
It had to be real. Vanessa:ย 
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์‹ค์ œ์—ฌ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
42:25
And then we- Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”- Dan:
42:26
If there's not a fire hazard in your living room,ย ย 
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๊ฑฐ์‹ค์— ํ™”์žฌ ์œ„ํ—˜์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด
42:28
it's not Christmas. Vanessa:ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
42:30
... Yeah, that's a big reason why we had aย  fake tree is because when my dad was a kid,ย ย 
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... ๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์งœ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ
42:34
they had a real tree. Dan:ย 
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์ง„์งœ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณ„์…จ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
42:35
Oh, yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜. Vanessa:
42:36
Maybe for one Christmas, I don't rememberย  if it was for longer than that. And they hadย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์–ด๋Š ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์—, ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊ธธ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ „๊ธฐ ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๋ฅผ
42:42
a train set going around it so they could turnย  on the electric train and it would go around theย ย 
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์ผค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๊ธฐ์ฐจ ์„ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
42:48
bottom of the Christmas tree, not in the branches,ย  but just on the ground, and it caught fire.ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์„ ๋Œ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ์ด ๋ถ™์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:52
Dan: Oh.ย 
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42:52
Vanessa: And my dad said one of his first memoriesย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค.
Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ธฐ์–ต ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€
42:54
is him as a little kid, getting a cup of water andย  throwing it on the Christmas tree fire. This isย ย 
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ฌผ ํ•œ ์ปต์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‹ฅ๋ถˆ์— ๋˜์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
43:00
huge hazard. And there's so many warnings. Dan:ย 
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์œ„ํ—˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
43:02
I mean, I don't think so much anymore. Vanessa:ย 
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์ œ ๋ง์€, ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
43:04
Yeah, this is a big deal. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ํฐ์ผ์ด๋„ค์š”. Dan:
43:07
Christmas trees are safe. Vanessa:ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ˆ์ „ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
43:08
Christmas trees are not safe, because they sayย  now, I think it's more known now that you shouldย ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฌผ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด์ œ ๋” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ ์ž˜๋ผ๋‚ธ
43:14
always keep water, so you have the Christmas treeย  that's cut and you put it in a little basin ofย ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์ด ๋‹ด๊ธด ์ž‘์€ ๋Œ€์•ผ์— ๋„ฃ๊ณ 
43:20
water, and if there's not water in there, the treeย  will dry out and it will catch fire really easily.ย ย 
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๋ฌผ์ด ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ์ด ๋ถ™์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:26
But, if it's filled with water, then the treeย  is hydrated and it won't catch fire as easily.ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌผ์ด ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋ฌด์— ์ˆ˜๋ถ„์ด ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋˜์–ด ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ์ด ๋ถ™์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:31
Dan: But also, 60s electronics, versus-ย 
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 60๋…„๋Œ€ ์ „์ž์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜๋ฉด
43:34
Vanessa: Okay. That's true.ย 
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43:34
Dan: ... Today's electronics. They're notย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Dan: ... ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์˜ ์ „์ž์ œํ’ˆ. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
43:36
going to catch fire the same way. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ถˆ์ด ๋ถ™์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
43:37
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋Œ„:
43:38
Probably. Vanessa:ย 
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43:38
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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์•„๋งˆ. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
๋„ค. Dan:
43:39
Christmas trees are safe and the best. Vanessa:ย 
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ณ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
43:40
Dan loves Christmas trees. So, I remember,ย  yeah, we would do that, and then we wouldย ย 
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Dan์€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ
43:45
decorate the tree. And my mom always had oneย  ornament, which I now have that was the firstย ย 
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ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žฅ์‹ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์žฅ์‹์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
43:50
ornament we put on the tree. Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ฌด์— ๋ถ™์ธ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์žฅ์‹์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
43:51
Which one was that? Vanessa:ย 
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์–ด๋Š ๊ฑฐ์˜€์–ด? Vanessa: ์ž‘์€ ๊ตฌ์Šฌ์ด
43:52
It's the ball that has lots ofย  little beads on it. And it's got-ย 
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๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ•ํ˜€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€-
43:59
Dan: Ball with beads.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ตฌ์Šฌ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฐ ๊ณต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:00
Vanessa: ... Ribbons, and knots, and stuff on it.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ... ๋ฆฌ๋ณธ, ๋งค๋“ญ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์œ„์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค.
44:03
We have it. Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ ์žˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
44:04
Well, I love Christmas trees andย  I can't remember this ornament.ย 
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์Œ, ์ €๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด ์žฅ์‹์ด ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:06
Vanessa: Oh, well it's in our house.ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์–ด.
44:08
Dan: That's good. It'll be refreshingย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ข‹๋„ค์š”.
44:09
this year to see it later. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ณด๊ธฐ์— ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ์‹ ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
44:11
And, she put that on the tree and thatย  signified, we can start to decorate the tree.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์œ„์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“์•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์žฅ์‹ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:15
So yeah, we would decorate the tree togetherย  and it was just a nice time to do that.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žฅ์‹ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค.
44:18
Dan: How did you guys sit back and not decorateย ย 
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Dan: ๋„ˆํฌ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์•‰์•„์„œ
44:20
the tree right away? Our children are like,ย  "Bah, get all the stuff. Put it on right away."ย 
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žฅ์‹ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ˆ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ "์•ผ, ๋ฌผ๊ฑด ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™€. ๋‹น์žฅ ์ž…์–ด."
44:26
Vanessa: Yeah, we did the ornaments. Weย ย 
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44:26
were busy doing the branches. Dan:ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žฅ์‹์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š๋ผ ๋ฐ”๋นด์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
44:28
Maybe because it's two girls versus two boys. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์†Œ๋…€ ๋Œ€ ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์†Œ๋…„์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
44:30
I don't know. But, we did it and it wasย  fun. And I remember when we got married,ย ย 
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์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ๊ณ  ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:34
that was my first real Christmas tree. Weย  went to a place and got a real tree and-ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ง„์งœ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ง„์งœ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ๊ณ -
44:40
Dan: That was your first?ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ฒ˜์Œ์ด์—ˆ์–ด?
44:41
Vanessa: ... Yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ... ๋„ค.
44:42
Dan: Oh, we got the little one.ย 
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Dan: ์˜ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:43
Vanessa: We got a little tree. Yeah.ย 
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Vanessa: ์ž‘์€ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์‘.
44:45
Dan: That we planted later.ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์‹ฌ์€ ๊ฒƒ.
44:46
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.ย 
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44:46
Dan: That's another thing you can doย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
44:48
sometimes in America, but it's more difficult. Vanessa:ย 
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๋” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
44:51
Yeah, you can get it with the root ball onย  the bottom. The first year we were married-ย 
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๋„ค, ํ•˜๋‹จ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ ๊ณต์œผ๋กœ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•œ ์ฒซํ•ด-
44:55
Dan: It's a lot heavier.ย 
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44:55
Vanessa: ... Oh my goodness, it wasย ย 
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๋Œ„: ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋ฌด๊ฑฐ์›Œ์š”.
Vanessa: ... ์„ธ์ƒ์—,
44:57
so heavy. I remember it took three of us. Dan:ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฌด๊ฑฐ์› ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์„ธ ๋ช…์ด ๊ฑธ๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
44:59
It was three feet tall. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ‚ค๊ฐ€ 3ํ”ผํŠธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
45:01
Me, you, and your brother to take itย ย 
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์ €, ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ˜•์ œ๊ฐ€
45:04
out of the car and drag it into our house. Dan:ย 
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์ฐจ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. Dan:
45:06
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Vanessa:ย 
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์Œ-ํ (๊ธ์ •). Vanessa:
45:07
Because it was so big, but we wanted to plant itย  later, we didn't want to just cut a tree down. So,ย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฌ๊ธด ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์‹ฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๋ฒ ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
45:12
we got this tree with a root ball,ย  but ever since then, we've just gottenย ย 
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๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ ๊ณต์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
45:16
a cut tree, and put it in our house, andย  decorated it. And yeah, it's a lot of fun.ย 
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์ž˜๋ฆฐ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™€์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ๋†“๊ณ  ์žฅ์‹ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ์•„์ฃผ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:22
Dan: Always a happy time.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„.
45:23
Vanessa: Yeah. Well, I want to know for you, what isย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”,
45:27
your favorite holiday tradition? It might not beย  about Christmas. It could be about any holiday.ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ช…์ ˆ ์ „ํ†ต์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํœด์ผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:32
But, I want to know about your experience. Let usย  know in the comments, what's your favorite holidayย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ช…์ ˆ ์ „ํ†ต์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
45:37
tradition? And we'll go on to our next question.ย  Question number nine is about sports and exercise.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 9๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์™€ ์šด๋™์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:44
What is the most recent sport that you did? Dan:ย 
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ํ•œ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
45:47
Well, this happened just about a week agoย  actually. And it's the first time I ever did thisย ย 
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์Œ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ์ „์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์•ผ์™ธ์—์„œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์ด๋ฒˆ์ด ์ฒ˜์Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
45:53
outdoors. It was rock climbing. Isย  this a sport? I guess, it's a sport.ย 
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. ์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
45:58
Vanessa: It's considered exercise.ย 
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Vanessa: ์šด๋™์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์ฃผ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:59
Dan: Yeah. And so, my brother-in-law is,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ฒ˜๋‚จ์€
46:03
let's just say, obsessed with rock climbing. And,ย  he's gotten pretty good at it lately. And so,ย ย 
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์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜์— ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๊ฝค ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
46:10
he met us in between where he lives andย  us. We live about eight hours away. And,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณณ๊ณผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ฝ 8์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
46:17
we were in West Virginia, which has actually a lotย  of good rock climbing. And we chose a spot and heย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์›จ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฒ„์ง€๋‹ˆ์•„์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š”
46:22
had all the gear, he's got the ropes, he's gotย  the shoes, he's got the backpacks, he's got theย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์žฅ๋น„, ๋กœํ”„, ์‹ ๋ฐœ, ๋ฐฐ๋‚ญ,
46:29
harness, and all this stuff. And he actually...ย  Oh the helmet too. Don't forget the helmet.ย ย 
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ํ•˜๋„ค์Šค ๋“ฑ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ... ํ—ฌ๋ฉง๋„์š”. ํ—ฌ๋ฉง์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
46:33
And, he geared me up to do it. And, Iย  was actually pretty nervous about it,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์ค€๋น„์‹œ์ผฐ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ฝค ๊ธด์žฅํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
46:40
and not because I'm afraid of heights actually,ย  he's more scared of Heights than I am.ย ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ์†Œ๊ณตํฌ์ฆ์„ ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œํ•ด์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ณ ์†Œ๊ณตํฌ์ฆ์„ ๋” ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œํ•œ๋‹ค.
46:45
I think it's funny that he likes doing thisย  so much. He says every single time he does it,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์ผ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
46:50
he's scared. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‘๋ ต๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
46:51
Oh. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค. ๋Œ„:
46:52
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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46:52
Interesting. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ตฐ์š”. Dan:
46:53
But I'm not afraid of heights, so I wasn't reallyย  worried about that. I probably should have beenย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ณ ์†Œ๊ณตํฌ์ฆ์ด ์—†์–ด์„œ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š”
46:58
more worried about it. Vanessa:ย 
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46:58
What were you worried about? Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ–ˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด. Vanessa:
๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
47:02
I'm a perfectionist, or a completionist. So,ย  it really bothers me if I try something and Iย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์™„๋ฒฝ์ฃผ์˜์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
47:08
can't finish it. Vanessa:ย 
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๋๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๊ท€์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
47:09
Ah, so you wanted to beย  able to make it to the top.ย 
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ •์ƒ์— ์˜ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์…จ๊ตฐ์š”.
47:11
Dan: So, I knew I could probably do some easy stuff,ย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋งˆ ์‰ฌ์šด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
47:15
but he's a lot better than I am. So, I knewย  that he would be wanting to move on to somethingย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€
47:22
more challenging. And, I didn't really know if Iย  wanted to have to just watch, or try it and onlyย ย 
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๋” ๋„์ „์ ์ธ ์ผ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์‹œ๋„ํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ 
47:28
get partway. In the end, I did do that. So, theย  first one was a easy one. I don't think it was-ย 
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์ค‘๋„์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์ •๋ง ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์‰ฌ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ...
47:34
Vanessa: I'll show you a picture here of Danย ย 
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Vanessa: ์—ฌ๊ธฐ Dan์ด ์ •์ƒ๊นŒ์ง€ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
47:36
making it all the way to the top. Yes. Dan:ย 
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. ์˜ˆ. ๋Œ„:
47:39
... Yes. So, I do naturally have a good body typeย  for climbing. I'm lightweight. I climb a lot ofย ย 
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... ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ์ฒดํ˜•์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋ณ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€
47:47
trees. I like to hike and do all that stuff. So, Iย  can figure it out. But, the hand strength is justย ย 
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๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์˜ค๋ฅธ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•˜์ดํ‚น๊ณผ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์†์˜ ํž˜์€
47:56
on another level to rock climb. Vanessa:ย 
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์•”๋ฒฝ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
47:59
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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47:59
And so, I did the easier one and I made it to theย  top. But, all the other ones, I made it partway.ย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋” ์‰ฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ด์„œ ์ •์ƒ์— ์˜ฌ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ค‘๊ฐ„์— ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:06
And, I actually remember, we were withย  another guy too, his name was Jim. And,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚จ์ž์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ Jim์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
48:11
Jim was really inspiring, because... And don'tย  worry, this was totally safe. There was a ropeย ย 
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Jim์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” . ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์•ˆ์ „ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:17
tied to the very top. They call it top climbing?ย  Top rope? I don't remember the terms. There's aย ย 
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๋งจ ์œ„์— ๋ฐง์ค„์ด ๋ฌถ์—ฌ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํƒ‘ํด๋ผ์ด๋ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์ฃ ? ํƒ‘ ๋กœํ”„? ์šฉ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:24
lot of terms in rock climbing. Vanessa:ย 
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์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์šฉ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
48:25
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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48:25
And so, he was tied to the top and if you fallย  that will catch you right away and it's not aย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ผญ๋Œ€๊ธฐ์— ๋ฌถ์—ฌ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋„˜์–ด์ง€๋ฉด ์ฆ‰์‹œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์žก์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
48:32
big deal. Vanessa:ย 
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ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
48:33
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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48:33
But, for me, if I fall one time doing that, I'mย  like, "All right, I'm done." That's how I feel.ย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋„˜์–ด์ง€๋ฉด '๋์–ด, ๋๋‚ฌ์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์•ผ.
48:41
But he fell probably 15 times on a climb andย  just kept on trying, and trying, and trying,ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์˜ค๋ฅด๋ง‰๊ธธ์—์„œ ์•„๋งˆ 15๋ฒˆ์€ ๋„˜์–ด์กŒ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์† ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ , ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ , ์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ •์ƒ์—
48:47
and he made it to the top and I was like, "Wow."ย  And, when he got down, I said, "I have to tryย ย 
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์˜ฌ๋ž๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "์™€์šฐ." ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ ค์™”์„ ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๋‚˜๋Š”
48:56
a lot more than I would, because I justย  saw him persevere." So, it's a very goodย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ธ๋‚ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ณด์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€
48:59
perseverance sport. Vanessa:ย 
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์ธ๋‚ด ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
49:02
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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49:02
So, I tried, and tried, and tried, and I got oneย  third of the way, because it was really difficult.ย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ๊ณ  1/3์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์› ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:08
It's called crack climbing. And there's justย  a crack in the wall. And, you got to put yourย ย 
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ํฌ๋ž™ ํด๋ผ์ด๋ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฒฝ์— ๊ธˆ์ด ๊ฐ„ ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
49:13
hands there. And, just- Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์†์„ ์˜ฌ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ- Vanessa:
49:16
That's so hard. Dan:ย 
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49:16
... There's nothing except for a crack andย  little tiny ledges. So, their experienced,ย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์–ด๋ ต๋„ค์š”. Dan:
... ๊ท ์—ด๊ณผ ์กฐ๊ทธ๋งˆํ•œ ๋Œ์ถœ๋ถ€ ์™ธ์—๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ํ’๋ถ€ํ•ด์„œ
49:24
so they got up the first part really easily.ย  So, the girl who was with us, she said,ย ย 
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ •๋ง ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋˜ ์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:31
"Yeah, that was tricky." But, Iย  was stuck on the first part for...ย ย 
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"๋„ค, ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กœ์› ์–ด์š”." ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ ๊ผผ์ง ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด์š”...
49:36
It felt like 20 minutes, it was probably moreย  like 10 minutes. They just got up that part. Butย ย 
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20๋ถ„ ๊ฐ™์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„๋งˆ 10๋ถ„ ์ •๋„์˜€์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ผ์œผ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
49:42
it was literally just a little thin rock you hadย  to put your fingers in, barely any foothold. But,ย ย 
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๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์„ ๋„ฃ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๋Œ์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋ฐœํŒ์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
49:48
I saw Jim fall, and fall, and fall, and Iย  kept on trying and I finally did it. Yes.ย 
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์ €๋Š” Jim์ด ๋„˜์–ด์ง€๊ณ , ๋„˜์–ด์ง€๊ณ , ๋˜ ๋„˜์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜๊ณ , ๊ณ„์† ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด ํ•ด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
49:52
Vanessa: Wow. Man, that is not up my alley at all.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™€. ๋‚จ์ž, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด ๊ณจ๋ชฉ์ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:58
Dan: Yeah. Brad asked me... Brad's myย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๋ธŒ๋ž˜๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ๋ธŒ๋ž˜๋“œ๋Š” ์ œ
49:59
brother-in-law. He said, "Do you think Vanessaย  would ever do this with you?" And I was like-ย 
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49:59
Dan: Brad's my brother-in-law. He said,ย ย 
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์ฒ˜๋‚จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” "Vanessa๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜-
๋Œ„: ๋ธŒ๋ž˜๋“œ๋Š” ์ œ ์ฒ˜๋‚จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š”
50:01
"Do you think Vanessa would ever do this withย  you?" And I was like, "I don't think..." I can'tย ย 
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"Vanessa๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”..."๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:06
imagine you wanting to do that. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ƒ์ƒ๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
50:08
Yeah. I don't like heights like that, and I feelย  like I can't just do something like that like you.ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋†’์€ ๊ณณ์ด ์‹ซ๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
50:17
I would need to go to the climbing gym and feelย  comfortable with it, because at least for me,ย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํด๋ผ์ด๋ฐ ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์„ ๋Š๊ปด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
50:23
that takes a lot of upper body strength,ย  your abs, your arms, your fingers. I thinkย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ์ฒด ํž˜, ๋ณต๊ทผ, ํŒ”, ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:32
maybe for you, you were able to make it to theย  top of the easier one and halfway up or a thirdย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋†’์€ ๊ณณ์„ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํž˜์ด ๋‚˜์™€๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ถ„ํฌ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋” ์‰ฌ์šด ๊ณณ์˜ ์ •์ƒ๊ณผ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ์ง€์  ๋˜๋Š”
50:39
of the way up the other ones because you're notย  afraid of heights and your strength is distributedย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์˜ 3๋ถ„์˜ 1 ์ง€์ ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋„๋‹ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:47
differently than mine. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
50:48
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
50:49
But I think for something like that, I would needย  to massively feel more comfortable with heightsย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ณ ๊ณต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ 
50:55
and go to the gym in advance. Dan:ย 
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๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋Œ„:
50:57
The girl who was with us was the best one there.ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋˜ ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์ œ์ผ ์ข‹์•˜์–ด์š”.
50:59
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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50:59
Dan: She wasย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
51:00
amazing. Vanessa:ย 
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51:00
I bet. Dan:ย 
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๋†€๋ผ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
์žฅ๋‹ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
51:01
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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51:01
I mean, you can practice that and do it. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . Dan:
51:02
Women can definitely do it. Vanessa:ย 
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์—ฌ์„ฑ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
51:03
Yeah. That's the cool thing. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
51:04
She was kind of like spider monkey, though. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ๋ฏธ์›์ˆญ์ด ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
51:08
Going everywhere. Dan:ย 
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์–ด๋””๋“ ์ง€ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
51:09
She hadn't had any children yet. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„์ง ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
51:11
Yeah, maybe. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„์š”. Dan:
51:12
Children does a number onย  you. I speak from experience.ย 
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฒˆํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ—˜์—์„œ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค.
51:14
Vanessa: Yeah? In any case, I think that seems likeย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค? ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
51:19
the kind of exercise or sport that I would need toย  practice in advance before going outside to do it,ย ย 
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๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์šด๋™์ด๋‚˜ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:28
and inside where there's, I don'tย  know, maybe more predictability-ย 
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๋‚ด๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋” ์˜ˆ์ธก ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:33
Dan: Mats.ย 
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51:33
Vanessa: ... or practice, that would be better for me.ย 
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Dan: Mats.
Vanessa: ... ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์—ฐ์Šต, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ๋‚˜์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
51:36
Dan: I thought it was more fun outside.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๊นฅ์ด ๋” ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
51:37
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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51:37
Dan: Because I've done climbing gyms before,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
Dan: ์ „์— ์ฒด์œก๊ด€ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜์„ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด
51:39
and it's okay, but outside's a wholeย  adventure. It did take forever though.ย 
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ–์€ ์ „์ฒด ๋ชจํ—˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜์›ํžˆ ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:44
Vanessa: Yeah. You have to hook up everything.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:47
Dan: We did four climbs and we were there all day.ย ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 4๋ฒˆ์˜ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:51
You're watching other people go, and also oneย  person has to be the... I forget what it's called.ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋˜ํ•œ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ... ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:57
Vanessa: Belay.ย 
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51:57
Dan: Belay. Yeah. One person's holding you,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋นŒ๋ ˆ์ด.
๋Œ„: ๋นŒ๋ ˆ์ด. ์‘. ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:01
making sure you're not going to fall down, soย  they actually hold you up from the other end.ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋„˜์–ด์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ชฝ ๋์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋– ๋ฐ›์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:06
Vanessa: Cool.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋‹ค.
52:07
Dan: I don't know all the terms,ย ย 
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Dan: ๋ชจ๋“  ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•Œ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
52:08
but you can imagine it, right? Vanessa:ย 
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์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ ? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
52:10
Yeah. It seemed like cool camaraderieย  too with everybody who was there.ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋™์ง€์• ๋„ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:15
Dan: Yeah. That was probably the best part.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:16
Vanessa: As in we all went together,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ”๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
52:18
and then I went on a hike with Dan's sisterย  and our kids and Dan's parents. We wereย ย 
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Dan์˜ ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ ๊ณผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Dan์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
52:23
at the same place, but hiking instead. But we wereย  going back and watching them too. It seemed likeย ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€์‹  ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:29
everyone who was in this area climbing just wasย  chill. They were all the type of perseverant,ย ย 
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์ด ์ง€์—ญ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ƒ‰์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ˆ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๊ณ 
52:38
motivated type of person, who's like, "I'mย  going to climb this rock," a personal challenge.ย 
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์˜์š•์ ์ธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. " ์ด ์•”๋ฒฝ์„ ์˜ค๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๋„์ „์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:40
Dan: It's a culture, for sure.ย 
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Dan: ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋ฌธํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:41
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
52:42
Dan: Yeah. One guy walked up and there was a climb,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€ ์˜ค๋ฅด๋ง‰๊ธธ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
52:44
they all have funny names, and he was like, "Didย  you do chalk line? Cool, bro." It was totally-ย 
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๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” " ์ดˆํฌ ๋ผ์ธ์„ ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”, ํ˜•๋‹˜."์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™„์ „ํžˆ-
52:50
Vanessa: Trying to size each other up.ย 
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Vanessa: ์„œ๋กœ์˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์ •ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:52
Dan: Surfer vibes.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์„œํผ ๋Š๋‚Œ.
52:54
Vanessa: Yeah. I could see that. Well,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”,
52:56
sounds like a fun time, even though it was hard. Dan:ย 
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ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
52:59
Oh, it twas very hard. Very hard. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค, ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์› ์–ด์š”. ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ. Vanessa:
53:00
Bonding together. Dan:ย 
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์œ ๋Œ€๊ฐ์„ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
53:01
Yes. How about you? Have youย  tried any sports recently?ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š”? ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ํ•ด๋ณธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
53:04
Vanessa: Yeah, I was trying to think about this,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
53:07
and the answer is not really, but- Dan:ย 
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๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ- Dan:
53:09
Baseball. Vanessa:ย 
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์•ผ๊ตฌ. Vanessa:
53:10
I was going to say baseball. Dan:ย 
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์•ผ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋Œ„:
53:12
Really? Vanessa:ย 
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์ •๋ง์š”? Vanessa:
53:13
Because our four year old, almost five yearย  old, maybe by the time you're watching thisย ย 
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4์‚ด, ๊ฑฐ์˜ 5์‚ด ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜์‹ค ๋•Œ
53:20
he'll be five, our five year old son has been intoย  hitting the baseball with a baseball bat lately.ย ย 
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5์‚ด์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ 5์‚ด ์•„๋“ค์€ ์ตœ๊ทผ ์•ผ๊ตฌ ๋ฐฉ๋ง์ด๋กœ ์•ผ๊ตฌ๊ณต์„ ์น˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:29
In June, we visited Pittsburgh when Dan went- Dan:ย 
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6์›”์— Dan์ด ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” Pittsburgh๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan :
53:33
Rock climbing. Vanessa:ย 
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์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜. Vanessa:
53:34
... rock climbing. After that,ย  we went to a baseball field withย ย 
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... ์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜. ๊ทธ ํ›„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
53:40
Dan's sister and their cousins and someย  family, little kids. We tried to kind ofย ย 
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Dan์˜ ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ฌ์ดŒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์กฑ, ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•ผ๊ตฌ์žฅ์— ๊ฐ”๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜
53:46
play a baseball field. Dan:ย 
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์•ผ๊ตฌ์žฅ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
53:47
Tried. Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ. Vanessa:
53:48
There's bases, and we were all hitting. The kidsย  hit, we hit, and I've always liked hitting aย ย 
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๋ฒ ์ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์น˜๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์น˜๊ณ , ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์•ผ๊ตฌ๊ณต ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
53:54
baseball. I think it's pretty fun. Dan:ย 
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. ๊ฝค ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan:
53:55
That's when you realize how manyย  rules there are in baseball.ย 
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ์•ผ๊ตฌ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ทœ์น™์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:58
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
53:59
Dan: "Don't run with the bat." "First base is overย ย 
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๋Œ„: "๋ฐฉ๋ง์ด ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋›ฐ์ง€ ๋งˆ." "1๋ฃจ๋Š” ์ €์ชฝ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
54:01
there." "No, you have to stop on the base." "Wait,ย  he's going to throw the ball to you." It's like,ย ย 
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." "์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ธฐ์ง€์—์„œ ๋ฉˆ์ถฐ์•ผ ํ•ด." "์ž ๊น, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณต์„ ๋˜์งˆ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งˆ์น˜
54:04
forget about it. Just let him hit the ball. Vanessa:ย 
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์žŠ์–ด ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์„ ์น˜๊ฒŒ ๋†”๋‘์„ธ์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
54:07
Yeah. It was really funny to see our son hitย  the ball. He was just so excited that he hit itย ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋“ค์ด ๊ณต์„ ์น˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” . ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•ด์„œ
54:13
that he was holding onto the bat and he ran toย  third base. Like, "No, no, no. That way drop theย ย 
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๊ณต์„ ์ณค๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ๋ง์ด๋ฅผ ์žก๊ณ  3๋ฃจ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ. ์ €์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฉ๋ง์ด๋ฅผ ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ ค
54:18
bat. Go that way." Dan:ย 
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. ์ €์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€." ๋Œ„:
54:19
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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54:19
We were just having fun. Yeah, it was fun,ย  and I like hitting. Yeah. I've always likedย ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”. ์‘. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
54:25
hitting a baseball. Even though it wasn'tย  organized, like an actual organized sport,ย ย 
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์•ผ๊ตฌ๊ณต์„ ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์กฐ์งํ™”๋˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ ์กฐ์ง๋œ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„
54:30
I think that was still a sport. Itย  wasn't too much exercise, but it was fun.ย 
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์Šคํฌ์ธ ์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ณผํ•œ ์šด๋™์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:34
Dan: I have a funny story aboutย ย 
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Dan: ์•ผ๊ตฌ ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
54:35
baseball. Can I share it? Vanessa:ย 
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. ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
54:37
Yes. Dan:ย 
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54:37
When I was a kid. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ์š”. Vanessa:
54:38
Go ahead. Dan:ย 
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54:38
When I was a kid, I played baseball up untilย  coach pitch, which is where the coach is pitching,ย ย 
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๊ณ„์†ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๋Œ„:
์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ์ฝ”์น˜๊ฐ€ ํˆฌ๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ์ฝ”์น˜ ํ”ผ์น˜๊นŒ์ง€ ์•ผ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
54:45
not the players. Then I started gettingย  scared of how fast the ball was coming.ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ณต์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์˜ค๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œ์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:50
At least back then, that's how I felt. But oneย  time I was the first baseman, and in baseball,ย ย 
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•œ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ 1๋ฃจ์ˆ˜์˜€๊ณ , ์•ผ๊ตฌ์—์„œ๋Š”
54:57
it's a very slow sport, right? For kids, youย  just start getting distracted when they're notย ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ๋Š๋ฆฐ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ฃ ? ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๊ณต์„ ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ฃผ์˜๊ฐ€ ์‚ฐ๋งŒํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
55:03
hitting the ball and you're just waiting outย  there. So, I was pretending to be Darth Vaderย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
55:08
with earth fader with my glove over my face.ย  I was literally standing on first base going,ย ย 
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์–ผ๊ตด์— ์žฅ๊ฐ‘์„ ๋‚€ ์ฑ„ ์–ด์Šค ํŽ˜์ด๋”๋ฅผ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Šค ๋ฒ ์ด๋”์ธ ์ฒ™ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ 1๋ฃจ์— ์„œ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
55:17
and the player hit the ballย  and hit me on the glove,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ๊ณต์„ ์น˜๊ณ  ๊ธ€๋Ÿฌ๋ธŒ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ณค๊ณ ,
55:21
and we totally missed the play and it wasย  because I was pretending to be Darth Vaderย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด๋ฅผ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋†“์ณค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ 1๋ฃจ์—์„œ ๋‹ค์Šค ๋ฒ ์ด๋”์ธ ์ฒ™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
55:24
on first base. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
55:25
There you go. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ตฐ์š”. Dan:
55:26
That's my story. Vanessa:ย 
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์ œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
55:27
Wow. Dan:ย 
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55:27
That's why I quit baseball. Vanessa:ย 
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์™€์šฐ. Dan:
๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•ผ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋‘” ์ด์œ ์•ผ. Vanessa:
55:29
Oh, man. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค ์ด๋Ÿฐ. ๋Œ„:
55:30
Actually, that's not why. Vanessa:ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
55:31
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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55:31
It's because I would practice with myย  brother and he would throw really hard andย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan: ํ˜•๊ณผ
ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ˜•์ด ์ •๋ง ์„ธ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ง€๊ณ 
55:35
I didn't want to get hit by the ball. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ณต์— ๋งž๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
55:37
Yeah. I mean, I don't blame you. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋น„๋‚œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
55:38
Baseball. Vanessa:ย 
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55:38
I wouldn't want to get hit by a baseball either.ย  In the US, it's pretty common for kids to do,ย ย 
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์•ผ๊ตฌ. Vanessa:
์ €๋„ ์•ผ๊ตฌ๊ณต์— ๋งž๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฝค ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:43
they call it little league, so there's differentย  stages, and one stage might be like a parent isย ย 
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๋ฆฌํ‹€ ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€
55:50
throwing the ball to the kids, or it's sitting onย  a tee, it's sitting on a little stand and the kidsย ย 
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์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณต์„ ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘์€ ์Šคํƒ ๋“œ์™€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€
55:55
just have to try to hit the ball. Then the nextย  level might be another player is throwing it, orย ย 
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๊ณต์„ ์น˜๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ ˆ๋ฒจ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์„ ๋˜์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
56:00
then the coach is throwing it as you get more andย  more advanced. So, it's kind of working you up toย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ฝ”์น˜๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์„ ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
56:07
being a better player. Dan:ย 
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๋” ๋‚˜์€ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
56:09
To the majors. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฉ”์ด์ €์—๊ฒŒ. Vanessa:
56:10
To the majors. Well, that was your firstย  answer, right? You wished you could beย ย 
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๋ฉ”์ด์ €์—๊ฒŒ. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด์—ˆ์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
56:14
a famous sports player. Dan:ย 
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
56:16
I'd take the best baseball player,ย ย 
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์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์•ผ๊ตฌ ์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๊ผฝ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:18
or just really great. Vanessa:ย 
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์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
56:20
Cool. Okay. Dan:ย 
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56:20
Yeah. Any sport. I love sport. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋Œ„:
๋„ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์Šคํฌ์ธ . ๋‚˜๋Š” ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
56:22
Well, I want to ask you the same question. Whatย  was the most recent sport that you've played?ย ย 
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์Œ, ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ํ•ด๋ณธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
56:28
It could be an organized sport like baseball,ย  or it could be something that's just moreย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ผ๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์กฐ์ง์ ์ธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
56:31
exercise, like- Dan:ย 
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๋Œ„:
56:32
Like rock climbing. Vanessa:ย 
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์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋” ๋” ์šด๋™์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
56:33
... rock climbing, but some people mightย  say it's a sport. Let us know in theย ย 
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... ์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:36
comments what's the most recent sport you'veย  played, and we'll go on to our next question.ย ย 
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ํ•ด๋ณธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:41
Question number 10 is about electronics. Thisย  is another hypothetical question. If you couldย ย 
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10๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์ƒ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:47
invent any new electronic device,ย  what would it be and what would it do?ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ „์ž ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ฉฐ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
56:54
Dan: When I firstย ย 
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Dan: ์ฒ˜์Œ
56:55
was thinking about this, I thought gadgets,ย  like a new toaster that never burnt the toast.ย 
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์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ† ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ํƒœ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ƒˆ ํ† ์Šคํ„ฐ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ€์ œํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:02
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
57:03
Dan: But I think when I think ofย ย 
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š”
57:06
noble uses for electronics, I think of the medicalย  field. My electronic invention would be a tinyย ย 
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์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ๊ณ ๊ท€ํ•œ ์šฉ๋„๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์˜๋ฃŒ ๋ถ„์•ผ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚ด ์ „์ž ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ’ˆ์€
57:15
robot that kills cancer. Vanessa:ย 
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์•”์„ ์ฃฝ์ด๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๋กœ๋ด‡์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
57:17
Oh, okay. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
57:18
A cancer killing search and destroy robot. Vanessa:ย 
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์•”์„ ์ฃฝ์ด๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ƒ‰ ๋ฐ ํŒŒ๊ดด ๋กœ๋ด‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
57:21
Wow. That's noble. Dan:ย 
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์™€์šฐ. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณ ๊ท€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
57:23
I think they might be working on this. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
57:26
Yeah. I don't know much about that field. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค. Dan:
57:28
I think there is some kind of tiny robot,ย  for lack of a better word, that can findย ย 
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๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
57:37
certain diseases or cells in the body. You know,ย  I do not have a background in biotech at all,ย ย 
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์‹ ์ฒด์˜ ํŠน์ • ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด๋‚˜ ์„ธํฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ž‘์€ ๋กœ๋ด‡์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๋ช…๊ณตํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ ์ง€์‹์ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ,
57:44
but I would almost guarantee somebody's trying toย  figure out how to get tiny robots that can findย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์•”์„ ์ฐพ์•„ ์ฃฝ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๋กœ๋ด‡์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์žฅ๋‹ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
57:51
and kill cancer in people. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
57:53
That sounds great. Dan:ย 
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์ข‹๋„ค์š”. Dan:
57:54
That would be probably the bestย  use of an electronic gadget.ย 
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์ „์ž ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:00
Vanessa: Mine is very selfish compared to that.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ์— ๋น„ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ด๊ธฐ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:02
Dan: Yeah, becauseย ย 
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
58:03
nothing sucks more than cancer, Iย  think. This is just the worst thing.ย 
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์•”๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์งœ์ฆ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:08
Vanessa: Yeah. Well, if you are in biotech or if you areย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๋ช… ๊ณตํ•™ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
58:11
a cancer related doctor or surgeon- Dan:ย 
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์•” ๊ด€๋ จ ์˜์‚ฌ ๋˜๋Š” ์™ธ๊ณผ์˜๋ผ๋ฉด- Dan: ์ „ํ™”
58:15
Send me your number and I'll tell you my plans. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฒˆํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ œ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
58:17
Yeah. Let us know. Does something like thisย  exists? Is this something that's in the works?ย ย 
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๋„ค. ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์กด์žฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž‘์—…์ค‘์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
58:22
Yeah. Never know. Dan:ย 
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์‘. ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋ชฐ๋ผ. ๋Œ„:
58:24
Yeah. How about you? How many cancer destroyingย  things are you creating in your spare time?ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š”? ์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์•” ํŒŒ๊ดด์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
58:28
Vanessa: Oh, sorry. Mine's very selfish.ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•„, ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ด๊ธฐ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:32
I was thinking more personal. In our house, toย  go to our deck, we have a sliding door. There'sย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์—๋Š” ๋ฐํฌ์— ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฏธ๋‹ซ์ด ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:42
a glass sliding door, and then there's a screenย  that you can just push through. It's a magnet,ย ย 
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์œ ๋ฆฌ ๋ฏธ๋‹ซ์ด ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐ€๊ณ  ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฐ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž์„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:47
you can just go through it. But in the summer, weย  try to keep the glass sliding door closed becauseย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์—๋Š”
58:52
there's air conditioning in our house and it'sย  super hot and muggy, humid outside, so we don'tย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ์—์–ด์ปจ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ฐ–์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฅ๊ณ  ๋ฌด๋ฅ๊ณ  ์Šตํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์œ ๋ฆฌ ๋ฏธ๋‹ซ์ด ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•„ ๋‘๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
58:59
want that air to get inside. We want it to stayย  cool inside. We go in and out a lot in our house.ย ย 
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๊ณต๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‹œ์›ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง‘์— ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค๋ฝ๋‚ ๋ฝํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:08
With young children, it's kind of trickyย  to get them to keep that glass door closed.ย ย 
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์œ ๋ฆฌ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•„ ๋‘๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:14
It's also kind of heavy. Dan:ย 
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์ข€ ๋ฌด๊ฒ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
59:15
The sliding door. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฏธ๋‹ซ์ด ๋ฌธ. Vanessa:
59:17
Yeah, for them to pull it open is okay, and thenย  they bust through the screen door and they'reย ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด์–ด๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ฐฉ์ถฉ๋ง ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ถ€์ˆ˜๊ณ 
59:21
outside like, "I'm going to go do something,"ย  and they don't think about the glass door.ย ย 
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๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ "๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์œ ๋ฆฌ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:26
And for me too, sometimes if I'm carryingย  something, I have to open the door.ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋„ ๊ฐ€๋” ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:30
My electronic gadget would be a buttonย  that you can push that would open the door,ย ย 
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๋‚ด ์ „์ž ์žฅ์น˜๋Š” ๋ฒ„ํŠผ์„ ๋ˆ„๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋ฌธ์ด ์—ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
59:37
and then automatically within 30 seconds, it wouldย  close the door, so you have time to go throughย ย 
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30์ดˆ ์ด๋‚ด์— ์ž๋™์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌธ์ด ๋‹ซํžˆ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ๋ฌธ์„
59:44
and it would close. It might be sensorย  by your body, so if you're stillย ย 
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๋‹ซ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์— ์˜ํ•ด ์„ผ์„œ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„์ง
59:48
in the doorway it wouldn't close, butย  that way it would always close behind us.ย 
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๋ฌธ๊ฐ„์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋‹ซํžˆ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋’ค์— ๋‹ซํž ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:53
Dan: Couldn't you just use in the groceryย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ž๋™์œผ๋กœ ์—ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ์ ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์“ฐ๋ฉด ์•ˆ ๋ผ์š”
59:55
store where it automatically opens? Vanessa:ย 
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? Vanessa:
59:57
Yeah, something like that. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . Dan:
59:58
A sliding automatic door. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฏธ๋‹ซ์ด ์ž๋™๋ฌธ. Vanessa:
59:59
But people don't have that in their house. Dan:ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ง‘์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
60:01
Oh. But it's only a matter of money. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ˆ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
60:04
I mean, maybe we could get somethingย  like that installed in our house now,ย ย 
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์ œ ๋ง์€, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ค์น˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ,
60:07
but I was kind of envisioning, I imagine peopleย  who are handicapped or in a wheelchair, maybe theyย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ตฌ์ƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์žฅ์• ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํœ ์ฒด์–ด๋ฅผ ํƒ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
60:13
have something like this that's automatic. Dan:ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž๋™์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋Œ„:
60:15
Probably. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋งˆ. Vanessa:
60:16
I'm sure it's a big system you have to install.ย  It's probably a lot of money or kind of a hassle,ย ย 
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์„ค์น˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ํฐ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ํ™•์‹คํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฌด๋ž˜๋„ ๋ˆ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ฒˆ๊ฑฐ๋กœ์›€์ด ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
60:21
but I'm sure there's some kind of system. Dan:ย 
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์ œ๋„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด ํ™•์‹คํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ๋ฌธ์„
60:22
Well, we could go to a closed down groceryย  store, and every time it opens, it says,ย ย 
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๋‹ซ์€ ์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ ์ ์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
60:27
"Welcome to Aldi." Vanessa:ย 
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"Welcome to Aldi"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ‘œ์‹œ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
60:29
As in we would take Aldi's doors? Dan:ย 
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Aldi์˜ ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”? ๋Œ„:
60:32
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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60:32
And put them in our house, and it would have aย  speaker that says, "Welcome to the grocery store,"ย ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ๋„ฃ์œผ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง‘ ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค "์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”
60:37
every time we open our house's doors? Dan:ย 
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? Dan:
60:39
It'd be the most charming thingย  we could possibly add to our home.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:43
Vanessa: Maybe we could have it say,ย ย 
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Vanessa:
60:44
"Welcome home, Vanessa." Dan:ย 
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"์ง‘์— ์˜จ ๊ฑธ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ด, Vanessa."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
60:46
Oh, yeah. Programmable. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜. ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋ฐ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ. Vanessa:
60:48
I don't think I would like my doors to talk. Dan:ย 
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๋‚ด ๋ฌธ์ด ๋ง์„ ๊ฑธ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan:
60:51
And it also takes off your hat.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฒ—์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:52
Vanessa: Wow.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์™€.
60:53
Dan: With an arm.ย 
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๋Œ„: ํŒ”๋กœ.
60:54
Vanessa: Maybe it also feeds you food and gives you water.ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„๋งˆ ์Œ์‹๋„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋„ ์ค„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
60:57
Dan: And it's a conveyor belt too,ย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ปจ๋ฒ ์ด์–ด ๋ฒจํŠธ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด์„œ ๊ฑธ์–ด์„œ
60:58
so you don't have to walk through it. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ†ต๊ณผํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
61:00
And maybe it is also your brain,ย  so you don't have to think.ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‘๋‡Œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:02
Dan: And there's another arm thatย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†Œ๋‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์†์— ์ฅ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŒ”์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
61:04
puts a soda in your hand. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
61:06
That's weird. Yes. I would like our glass slidingย  door to be closed more easily so that it is not aย ย 
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์ด์ƒํ•˜๋„ค์š”. ์˜ˆ. ์œ ๋ฆฌ ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋”ฉ ๋„์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ซํ˜€์„œ
61:15
personal hassle or an annoyance in our home. Butย  I must say that Dan's cancer fighting robots areย ย 
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๋ฒˆ๊ฑฐ๋กœ์›€์ด๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์˜ ์„ฑ๊ฐ€์‹ฌ์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ Dan์˜ ์•” ํˆฌ๋ณ‘ ๋กœ๋ด‡์ด
61:22
probably a better idea. Anyway, I thoughtย  about this question for about 4.2 seconds.ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด 4.2์ดˆ ์ •๋„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:29
Dan: And I thought of it for four minutes.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  4๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
61:31
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
61:32
Dan: To be fair.ย 
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61:32
Vanessa: Yeah. So,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ.
๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
61:33
maybe if I thought about it for four minutesย  I would've come up with a better idea. Anyway,ย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ 4๋ถ„๋งŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ป”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“ ,
61:38
what about you? What kind of new electronic gadgetย  would you like to invent, and what would it do?ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ „์ž ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
61:43
Let us know in the comments and we'll go to ourย  next question. Question number 11 is about money.ย ย 
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๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 11๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:50
I'd like to know what is something that youย  can justify spending more money on and why?ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:56
Dan: Yeah. Justify. I mean, probably speakers.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ์‹ ์ด ์˜ณ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:01
Vanessa: We always talk about speakers.ย 
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:03
Dan: I'm kidding. I like audio stuff a lot.ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋†๋‹ด์ด์•ผ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜ค๋””์˜ค ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1
62:08
I would say maybe once a year I just startย  looking into some audio equipment or some kindย ย 
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๋…„์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„ ์˜ค๋””์˜ค ์žฅ๋น„๋‚˜ ์ผ์ข…์˜
62:13
of electronics, usually. I'm like, "Vanessa, doย  you think we could?" She's like, "No, we have 10ย ย 
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์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„?" ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 10
62:19
speakers," or headphones or something. You know? Vanessa:ย 
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์Šคํ”ผ์ปค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ๋˜๋Š” ํ—ค๋“œํฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ์ž–์•„? Vanessa:
62:21
We talked about this in past videos. Dan:ย 
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์ด์ „ ๋™์˜์ƒ์—์„œ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
62:23
Yes. This is not actuallyย  my answer. I said property.ย 
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๋„ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚ด ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์žฌ์‚ฐ์„ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
62:27
Vanessa: Oh, okay.ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
62:28
Dan: Yeah, because I know for sureย ย 
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Dan: ์˜ˆ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
62:31
we want to have another property. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ์„ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
62:34
Like in the woods? Dan:ย 
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์ˆฒ ์†์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ? ๋Œ„:
62:35
Yes. We would like to own, it mightย  just be land, but maybe just a cabin.ย ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์†Œ์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋•…์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:42
This is a little bit nostalgic for me becauseย  my grandfather actually gave my parentsย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„ ์‚ฐ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
62:49
or I guess gave us access to a very simple cabinย  that we would go to in the mountains in Colorado,ย ย 
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์•„์ฃผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰์„ ์ฃผ์…จ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:56
and that was our little escapeย  from the hubbub of normal lifeย ย 
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63:04
going to that cabin. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ ์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ. Vanessa:
63:05
No electricity, no plumbing. Dan:ย 
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์ „๊ธฐ๋„ ์—†๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ๊ด€๋„ ์—†์–ด์š”. Dan:
63:07
Yes, but it has to be like that. It has to beย  off grid, basically. I mean, it had electricity.ย 
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๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜คํ”„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋“œ์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ „๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:13
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
63:14
Dan: But it didn'tย ย 
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Dan: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
63:15
have running water. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ๋ฅด๋Š” ๋ฌผ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
63:16
Ah, that was a thing. Dan:ย 
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์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์˜€๊ตฐ์š”. Dan:
63:18
I mean, I think I'd takeย  electricity. That's kind of nice.ย 
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ „๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋จน์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ตฐ์š”.
63:20
Vanessa: That is nice.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹๋„ค์š”.
63:21
Dan: I don't know. We'll debate the details later, butย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”. ์ž์„ธํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
63:24
I know for sure I want to have some more property.ย  You can always justify it by saying, "Well,ย ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์žฌ์‚ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์Œ,
63:32
this is an investment too. You can always resellย  it." Usually with property you'll at least makeย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํˆฌ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์ œ๋“ ์ง€ ์žฌํŒ๋งคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ
63:39
back what you bought it for. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•œ ๊ธˆ์•ก๋งŒํผ์€ ๋Œ๋ ค๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
63:41
Hopefully. Dan:ย 
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63:41
Especially in this area, it's always growing,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
ํŠนํžˆ ์ด ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
63:44
so I can make a lot of justifications forย  why we need to own many beach homes. I mean-ย 
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ํ•ด๋ณ€๊ฐ€ ์ฃผํƒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์†Œ์œ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€-
63:50
Vanessa: Mountain-ย 
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Vanessa: Mountain-
63:51
Dan: ... mountain homes.ย 
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63:51
Vanessa: ... cabins. Yeah. When you were a kid-ย 
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Dan: ... ์‚ฐ ์†์˜ ์ง‘.
Vanessa: ... ํ†ต๋‚˜๋ฌด์ง‘. ์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ-
63:53
Dan: Many.ย 
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63:53
Vanessa: ... you wouldย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋งŽ์ด์š”.
Vanessa: ...
63:55
just go to the mountains with your momย  and siblings and play in the woods andย ย 
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์—„๋งˆ์™€ ํ˜•์ œ์ž๋งค์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ฐ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ˆฒ์—์„œ ๋†€๊ณ 
64:00
catch critters. Dan:ย 
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64:00
Yeah. There was acres of land there. There wasn'tย  as many critters as I would've liked there.ย 
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๋™๋ฌผ์„ ์žก์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
๋„ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์—์ด์ปค์˜ ๋•…์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์›ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒํผ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:05
Vanessa: Oh, yeah.ย 
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64:05
Dan: But there was a pond and thereย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์—ฐ๋ชป์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
64:07
were dragon flies and fish. Vanessa:ย 
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์ž ์ž๋ฆฌ์™€ ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
64:10
Oh, that sounds fun. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค, ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒ ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
64:11
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„
64:12
I think that's a beautiful childhood too, beingย  able to do stuff like that. We go hiking a lot,ย ย 
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š”๋ฐ
64:17
but there's something special about staying there. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—๋Š” ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
64:20
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
64:21
In the cabin and you go back to the same place,ย  maybe different seasons, and get to know theย ย 
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์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰์—์„œ ๊ฐ™์€ ์žฅ์†Œ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ณ„์ ˆ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
64:26
seasons there. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์˜ ๊ณ„์ ˆ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
64:27
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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64:27
That's cool. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”. ๋Œ„:
64:28
Yeah. The best thing about the cabin that weย  had was it had a loft. It doesn't seem very safeย ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ์ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฝ๋ฐฉ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ์ด์ผœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
64:36
thinking back to it, because my memory of it is itย  was like a plywood deck hanging from the ceiling.ย 
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. ์ œ ๊ธฐ์–ต์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ฒœ์žฅ์— ๋งค๋‹ฌ๋ฆฐ ํ•ฉํŒ ๋ฐํฌ ๊ฐ™์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:43
Vanessa: Did it have a-ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
64:44
Dan: It was hanging down, and you climbed a ladder upย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋งค๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์‚ฌ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ”์–ด์š”
64:47
to it. It had plywood walls, but there were gapsย  in the walls too, where you could just jump down,ย ย 
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. ํ•ฉํŒ ๋ฒฝ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฒฝ์— ํ‹ˆ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
64:53
which we didn't jump down. But what we did wasย  because it was a one room cabin, if my parentsย ย 
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚ด๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐฉ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฟ์ธ ์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด
64:59
were there with some friends or my grandparents,ย  they would play cards, and they would send us toย ย 
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ณ„์‹œ๋ฉด ์นด๋“œ ๋†€์ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์นจ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ด์…จ์ง€๋งŒ
65:04
bed, but we could hear everything, so we'd spy onย  them and we'd drop stuff down on them and stuff.ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ์‹œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์— ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๋–จ์–ด ๋œจ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:09
Vanessa: That sounds fun.ย 
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65:09
Dan: Yeah. That was fun.ย 
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Vanessa: ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒ ๋‹ค.
๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
65:11
Vanessa: Wow, so maybe we can recreate thisย ย 
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Vanessa: ์™€, ์ด ์†Œ๋ฐ•ํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ์žฌํ˜„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ์š”
65:13
rustic experience. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
65:16
We need a loft. Vanessa:ย 
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65:16
Do you think it would be just as fun asย  an adult? Because you were a kid doing it,ย ย 
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๋กœํ”„ํŠธ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด
๋˜์–ด๋„ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‚˜์š” ? ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
65:20
do you think that- Dan:ย 
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๋Œ„:
65:21
To sleep in the loft? Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฝ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ์ž๋ ค๊ณ ? Vanessa:
65:22
Well, for us, because we're adults now, soย  having this rural experience, would it be asย ย 
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์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์„ฑ์ธ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ์‹œ๊ณจ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”-
65:28
fun for us as it would- Dan:ย 
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Dan:
65:29
I think it would be. Vanessa:ย 
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65:29
... as for kids? Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
... ์•„์ด๋“ค์€์š”? Dan:
65:30
Yeah, because one benefit of being in a place likeย ย 
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๋„ค, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์ ์€
65:34
America and the United States is that you canย  usually find some place that is very ruralย ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ์‹œ๊ณจ
65:41
and quiet. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด๊ณ  ์กฐ์šฉํ•œ ๊ณณ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
65:42
Quickly and close. Dan:ย 
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๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋‹ซ์œผ์„ธ์š”. Dan:
65:43
We live close enough to a highwayย  and stuff that it would be nice toย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ ์†๋„๋กœ์™€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๊ฐ€๊น๊ณ  ์ƒˆ
65:48
just only hear the birds chirping. Vanessa:ย 
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์ง€์ €๊ท€๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
65:50
Yeah. I think that's really possible. I mean- Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ง์€- ๋Œ„:
65:52
And get away from electronics and stuff. It wouldย  have to be an intentional, this is not a placeย ย 
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์ „์ž ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜์„ธ์š”.
65:58
where we have a TV, for example. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ด๊ณณ์€ TV๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
66:00
Yeah. I think you can drive about 20 minutes awayย  from our house and be very much in the woods.ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ฐจ๋กœ 20๋ถ„ ์ •๋„ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ˆฒ ์†์— ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
66:05
Dan: Yes.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
66:06
Vanessa: But anyway, that's aย ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๊ทธ๊ฑด
66:08
specific discussion for another time. Dan:ย 
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ํ•  ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋…ผ์˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
66:09
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
66:10
Cool. So, you'd like to have- Dan:ย 
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๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€- ๋Œ„:
66:13
More property. Vanessa:ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์žฌ์‚ฐ. Vanessa:
66:14
... a cabin, and that would be a investment,ย  an investment that you could justify.ย ย 
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... ์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํˆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํˆฌ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:19
Well, I think for me, when I thought about this,ย  I thought more of something that we already doย ย 
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์Œ, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
66:26
that we have justified spending more money on, so- Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ- ๋Œ„:
66:31
Garden boxes. Vanessa:ย 
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์ •์› ์ƒ์ž. Vanessa:
66:33
I spend too much money on the garden. That's true.ย ย 
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์ •์›์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์”๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:36
These are the world's most expensive tomatoes. Dan:ย 
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์ด๋“ค์€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋น„์‹ผ ํ† ๋งˆํ† ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
66:38
We are now a small scale farm. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์†Œ๊ทœ๋ชจ ๋†์žฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
66:41
That's not what I was saying, but thatย  is true. I thought of something moreย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ผ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
66:46
in our daily life. I think this is different forย  everyone depending on how much money you have. Atย ย 
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. ๋ˆ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์žˆ๋Š๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:54
some point in our marriage, we bought the cheapestย  food. This is all that we could afford andย ย 
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๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ์ƒํ™œ์˜ ์–ด๋Š ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ €๋ ดํ•œ ์Œ์‹์„ ์ƒ€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „๋ถ€์˜€๊ณ 
67:02
that was it. But then as we made more money, weย  wanted to intentionally buy better quality food.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ์„ ๋” ๋ฒŒ๋ฉด์„œ ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋” ์ข‹์€ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์˜ ์Œ์‹์„ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:11
Dan: We prioritize it.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ์„  ์ˆœ์œ„๋ฅผ ์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:12
Vanessa: Yeah. So, insteadย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
67:13
of just buying expensive food, we wanted to buy,ย  especially we kind of made an intention to buyย ย 
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๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๊ฐ’๋น„์‹ผ ์‹ํ’ˆ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ณ , ํŠนํžˆ
67:21
better quality animal products specifically. Inย  the US, you have a lot of options. You could buyย ย 
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๋” ์ข‹์€ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์˜ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ฑ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜๋„๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์˜ต์…˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:28
organic carrots or conventional carrots, andย  not so much that I'm thinking more about meatย ย 
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์œ ๊ธฐ๋† ๋‹น๊ทผ์ด๋‚˜ ์žฌ๋ž˜์‹ ๋‹น๊ทผ์„ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ธฐ, ์š”๊ฑฐํŠธ, ์น˜์ฆˆ, ์šฐ์œ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:35
and yogurt and cheese and milk- Dan:ย 
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Dan:
67:40
Where the creatures are involved. Vanessa:ย 
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์ƒ๋ฌผ์ด ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
67:41
Yeah, because in the area where we live,ย  there's a lot of options for buyingย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ์—๋Š” ํ˜„์ง€ ๋ชฉ์ดˆ ์‚ฌ์œก ์†Œ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜ต์…˜์ด ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
67:46
local grass fed beef, for example, whereย  there's a farm down the street and it'sย ย 
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67:53
much more expensive than buying the cheapestย  beef at the grocery store. But for us,ย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
68:01
as we've made more money, this has beenย  something that we justify spending more money on.ย ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:07
If we didn't have money, then I would not spendย  money on that, because that wasn't a priority.ย 
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๋ˆ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:14
Dan: It would be hot dogs and canned tuna.ย 
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๋Œ„: ํ•ซ๋„๊ทธ์™€ ์ฐธ์น˜ ํ†ต์กฐ๋ฆผ์ด์š”.
68:16
Vanessa: I mean, maybe not hot dogs, but some beansย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ํ•ซ๋„๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ฝฉ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ
68:19
or just rice, something very simple. Dan:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐฅ, ์•„์ฃผ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์š”. ๋Œ„:
68:21
Rice and beans. There you go. Vanessa:ย 
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์Œ€๊ณผ ์ฝฉ. ์ž. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
68:22
Yeah. You can live off of that. Lots of peopleย  do. But for us, this has been something thatย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
68:27
we have been intentional about.ย  When we buy milk, we try to buyย ย 
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์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜๋„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ์‚ด ๋•Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋น„์‹ธ๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์–‘์งˆ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:33
good quality, not just expensive, but eitherย  local milk or something that's whole milk,ย ย 
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ํ˜„์ง€ ์šฐ์œ ๋‚˜ ์ „์œ ,
68:41
grass fed, something local, these types of things.ย  We have our own chickens, so those are certainly-ย 
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ํ’€์„ ๋จน์ธ ์šฐ์œ , ํ˜„์ง€์—์„œ ๋จน์€ ์šฐ์œ , ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘ ๋‹ญ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ-
68:46
Dan: They're free range.ย 
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Dan: ๋ฐฉ๋ชฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:47
Vanessa: Beautiful quality eggs. But thisย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ํ’ˆ์งˆ์˜ ๋‹ฌ๊ฑ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ
68:49
type of thing, because I feel like it is directlyย  impacting the farming world and the animal's life.ย ย 
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์œ ํ˜•์€ ๋†๊ฒฝ๊ณ„์™€ ๋™๋ฌผ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:00
We are not vegan, we are not vegetarian,ย  but I don't like conventional farms andย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋น„๊ฑด ์ฑ„์‹์ธ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์ฑ„์‹์ธ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์žฌ๋ž˜์‹ ๋†์žฅ๊ณผ
69:08
factory farms, big scale farms. Dan:ย 
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๊ณต์žฅ์‹ ๋†์žฅ, ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ๋†์žฅ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
69:11
From the standpoint of the animals? Vanessa:ย 
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๋™๋ฌผ์˜ ์ž…์žฅ์—์„œ์š”? Vanessa:
69:13
From a lot of standpoints, the environment,ย  animals, all of that, maybe you're eatingย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ, ๋™๋ฌผ, ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ
69:17
too much meat, but I completely understand thatย  if you don't have much money, you buy food. Youย ย 
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๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน๊ณ  ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์Œ์‹์„ ์‚ฌ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
69:23
just have to buy the food that you buy and youย  have to survive. Then as you make more money,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์Œ์‹๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋ฉด ๋˜๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๋ฉด
69:29
you make different choices about what you buy.ย  For us, that's been increasing the quality ofย ย 
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๊ตฌ๋งค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ ํƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์„ฑ ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ํ–ฅ์ƒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
69:36
the animal products that we buy for a lot ofย  different reasons. But anyway, that's somethingย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
69:41
that I can justify spending more money on. Dan:ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
69:44
Yes. Better food. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์Œ์‹. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
69:46
Yeah. That's something that we've chosen toย  spend more money on over time. That is probablyย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:52
different for you. Let us know in the commentsย  for you, what is something that you can justifyย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:57
spending more money on, maybe in the future, likeย  Dan's answer, some cabin or property, you couldย ย 
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Dan์˜ ๋‹ต๋ณ€, ์ผ๋ถ€ ์˜ค๋‘๋ง‰ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
70:02
justify spending more money on that, or maybe it'sย  something that you already spend more money on,ย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
70:07
like my answer. Let us know in the comments.ย  I'm curious. What are your financial priorities?ย ย 
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. ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ด. ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์žฌ์ •์  ์šฐ์„  ์ˆœ์œ„๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
70:13
Let us know in the comments, and let's go to theย  next question. Question number 11 is about games.ย ย 
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์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 11๋ฒˆ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:19
We like games. Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
70:20
Games. Are they fun? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฒŒ์ž„. ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
70:22
Yes. Dan:ย 
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70:22
I don't know. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋Œ„:
์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
70:23
I would like to know what is a game that youย  play that you're very competitive about. Theย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ค‘ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์น˜์—ดํ•œ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
70:28
word competitive means you want to win.ย  You feel serious, you can still have fun,ย ย 
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๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ์ด๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ฆ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜
70:32
but you want to win. Dan:ย 
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
70:35
The real question for me is what is aย  game that I don't feel competitive about,ย ย 
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ง„์งœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‹ฌ์„ ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
70:39
because I have a game switch in my head. Iย  start playing a game and I'm like, "Strategy on,ย ย 
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  '์ „๋žต์„ ์„ธ์›Œ
70:47
let's win this thing," and I feel very competitiveย  about it. I would say, especially any game thatย ย 
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์ด ๊ฒŒ์ž„์—์„œ ์ด๊ธฐ์ž'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์—
70:53
has strategy where you can actually makeย  decisions that will really impact the game,ย ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „๋žต์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒŒ์ž„์—๋Š”
70:59
there's a lot of games that are just roll the diceย  and it's random chance. It's a little easier notย ย 
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์ฃผ์‚ฌ์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ตด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ๋งŽ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์ž‘์œ„ ๊ธฐํšŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ–์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
71:04
to be competitive about that. Vanessa:ย 
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. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
71:05
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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71:05
Like when I played shoots and laddersย  with my son the other day, 100% luck,ย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan: ์˜ˆ์ „์— ์•„๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
์ƒˆ์‹น๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ ๋†€์ด๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š” . 100% ์šด์ด ์ข‹์•˜์ฃ 
71:12
which he didn't necessarily understand. He wasย  like, "Look, I'm going to jump over the slide."ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋Š” "์ด๋ด, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๋„๋Ÿผํ‹€์„ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜์„ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:17
Vanessa: You can't jump over the slide.ย 
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Vanessa: ์Šฌ๋ผ์ด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋›ฐ์–ด ๋„˜์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:20
Dan: That's not part of the rules.ย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทœ์น™์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:22
But that was very interesting that heย  thought about that himself. But anyway, yeah,ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์˜ˆ,
71:30
the question is, what am I competitive- Vanessa:ย 
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
71:31
Yeah. Give an example of some games,ย  because maybe our students too would like-ย 
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์˜ˆ. ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์˜ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:34
Dan: What am I super competitive about?ย 
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Dan: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
71:35
Vanessa: Yeah. Maybe they'd like someย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
71:36
examples that they could play. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
71:38
A recent example is there's a game calledย  Code Names, and it's one of the best gamesย ย 
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์ตœ๊ทผ์˜ ์˜ˆ๋Š” Code Names๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์—ญ๋Œ€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
71:44
ever, I think. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
71:46
Actually, I have a YouTube video where Dan and Iย  play this and I teach you how to play it and teachย ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ Dan๊ณผ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๋Š” YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๊ณผ
71:49
you vocabulary along the way. Dan:ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
71:51
Is very challenging, it scales,ย  so if your group is very smart,ย ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ๋„์ „์ ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฏ€ ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
71:57
they'll play it very smart. If your group isย  dumb, it plays to the level of the players.ย ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ์˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•˜๋ฉด ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:06
I've had to train myself not to get competitiveย  about this game, because for example, we firstย ย 
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋จผ์ € ์ด ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ํ›ˆ๋ จํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
72:11
played this. We literally went to bedย  that night and had an argument about it.ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋‚  ๋ฐค ์ž ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง๋‹คํˆผ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:17
Vanessa: "But why did you say this thing?" No,ย ย 
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Vanessa: "๊ทผ๋ฐ ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด?" ์•„๋‹ˆ,
72:18
I meant that." "How could you not get this?" Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋œป์ด์•ผ." "์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๊ฑธ ์•ˆ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด?" ๋Œ„:
72:20
Yeah. It feels really badย  to lose that game, I think.ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์—์„œ ์ ธ์„œ ์ •๋ง ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
72:25
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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72:25
Dan: So, that one really got to me.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค.
๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๊ทธ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
72:28
The last time we played, I have to usually tellย  myself I'm not going to get super competitive.ย ย 
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ด ์น˜์—ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:34
I'm just going to have a good time, and if Iย  lose, that's okay. I have to prep myself becauseย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ ธ๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์ค€๋น„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
72:39
I really like to win games. Vanessa:ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„์—์„œ ์ด๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. . Vanessa:
72:41
Yeah. Yeah. Dan:ย 
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์˜ˆ. ์˜ˆ. Dan:
72:43
Actually, I've gotten better with that over time. Vanessa:ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋” ์ข‹์•„์กŒ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
72:45
Yeah. I think Code Names is a goodย  one for English learners. One thatย ย 
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์˜ˆ. Code Names๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
72:50
we play often or we play maybe threeย  times a year is Settlers of Catan.ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž์ฃผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ 1๋…„์— 3๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ Settlers of Catan์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:57
Dan: Yes.ย 
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Dan: ์˜ˆ.
72:58
Vanessa: You can play the simple version of sellersย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๋ฒ„์ „์˜ Catan ํŒ๋งค์ž๋ฅผ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
73:00
of Catan, or you can use the expansions. Dan:ย 
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ํ™•์žฅ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
73:03
We go a little crazy. Vanessa:ย 
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ฏธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
73:04
The original game, it might take one and a halfย  hours, but the way we play, sometimes it takesย ย 
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์›๋ž˜ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์€ ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ˜ ์ •๋„ ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์€ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
73:11
five hours, and it can be very intense. It dependsย  on who you play with. I've played this game withย ย 
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5์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์™€ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„
73:17
people who are so serious that they are not funย  to play with, as in if you set the dice down,ย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ง„์ง€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•ด๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฃผ์‚ฌ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋†“๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋†€๊ธฐ์— ์žฌ๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:25
they'll say, "Oh, your turn's over. It's myย  turn now." "What? Give me some slack. Cutย ย 
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"์˜ค, ๋„ค ์ฐจ๋ก€๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚ฌ์–ด. ์ด์ œ ๋‚ด ์ฐจ๋ก€์•ผ." "๋ญ? ์ข€ ์—ฌ์œ ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
73:31
me some slack." But when we play with us, andย  the people we usually play with is Dan's sisterย ย 
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์—ฌ์œ ๋ฅผ ์ข€ ์ค˜." ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๋†€ ๋•Œ, ๋ณดํ†ต ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋…ธ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋Œ„์˜ ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ
73:36
and her husband, Brad- Dan:ย 
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๋‚จํŽธ ๋ธŒ๋ž˜๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„ :
73:37
That's the only people we play with now. Vanessa:ย 
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋…ธ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
73:38
Dan rock climbed with, yeah, when we play withย  them, we're all competitive, but we're nice.ย 
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๋Œ„ ๋ก์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋†€๊ณ  , ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์นœ์ ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:44
Dan: We're lighthearted at the same time.ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์— ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๊ฐ€๋ณ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:46
Vanessa: Yeah. We have a goodย ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ˆ.
73:47
time still. Sometimes at the end of the game,ย  when it's about two o'clock in the morning-ย 
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ๋๋‚  ๋•Œ, ์ƒˆ๋ฒฝ 2์‹œ-
73:51
Dan: We've gad arguments though.ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์ด ๋งŽ์•˜์–ด์š”.
73:52
Vanessa: Okay. We've had bigย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:53
arguments, the four of us about it. Butย  when it's getting really late at night,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋„ท์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํฐ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ๋ฒŒ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐค์ด ์ •๋ง ๊นŠ์–ด์ง€๋ฉด
73:57
everyone's really tired, and we know we have toย  wake up early with all of our kids, so it gets aย ย 
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผ์ฐ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
74:02
little more stressful. But that's a fun one. Dan:ย 
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
74:05
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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74:05
Those are neither- Dan:ย 
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์˜ˆ.
74:07
You feel competitive about that? Vanessa:ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:09
I feel competitive about- Dan:ย 
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about- Dan:
74:11
You're a quiet competitor. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์กฐ์šฉํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
74:13
I feel competitive about those games, but Iย  feel most competitive when I play Carcassonne.ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‹ฌ์„ ๋Š๋ผ์ง€๋งŒ Carcassonne์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‹ฌ์„ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:19
Dan: Oh,ย ย 
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Dan: ์˜ค,
74:20
just against me? Vanessa:ย 
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j ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํ•ด? Vanessa:
74:21
Against you, mainly because- Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ƒ๋Œ€๋กœ, ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ด์œ ๋Š”- Dan:
74:23
You beat me a lot too. Vanessa:ย 
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74:23
That's why. Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์ด๊ฒผ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
74:24
I don't like it. Vanessa:ย 
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์‹ซ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
74:25
Because I have probably a 50% chance of winning.ย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์ฒจ๋  ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด 50%์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:30
A lot of games, depending on what they are, if Iย  play them with just Dan, I either won't win oftenย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ Dan๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๋ฉด ์ž์ฃผ ์ด๊ธฐ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
74:37
or it'll be like 30% of the time I'll win. Butย  with Carcassonne, I win about 50% of the time.ย 
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30%์˜ ํ™•๋ฅ ๋กœ ์ด๊ธธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ Carcassonne์—์„œ๋Š” ์•ฝ 50%์˜ ํ™•๋ฅ ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:44
Dan: It's not just luck.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์šด์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
74:45
Vanessa: It's not just luck. There's a lot ofย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์šด์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”. ๋งŽ์€
74:47
work and strategy. If you miss up a move, youย  can lose the entire game, and your three hourย ย 
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์ž‘์—…๊ณผ ์ „๋žต์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋™์„ ๋†“์น˜๋ฉด ์ „์ฒด ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ์žƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ 3์‹œ๊ฐ„
74:53
experience is lost. I like Carcassonne a lotย  because of that. It's fun to me, I can win.ย 
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๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์†์‹ค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์นด๋ฅด์นด์†์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋‹ค, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค.
74:58
Dan: We can play one on one.ย 
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Dan: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ๋Œ€์ผ๋กœ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:59
Vanessa: We can play just us,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ
75:00
and I think that's a good... there's not many- Vanessa:ย 
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์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”... ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š” Vanessa:
75:03
Play just us, and I think that's a good ...ย  There's not many good strategy games that youย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”...
75:05
can play with just two people. It's based off ofย  a city in France, Carcassonne, the same name. Andย ย 
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๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์ „๋žต ๊ฒŒ์ž„์€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด๋ฆ„์˜ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ๋„์‹œ์ธ ์นด๋ฅด์นด์†(Carcassonne)์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
75:12
the game looks like that city. Dan:ย 
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๊ฒŒ์ž„์€ ๊ทธ ๋„์‹œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
75:14
You build city walls and roads and stuff. Vanessa:ย 
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์„ฑ๋ฒฝ๊ณผ ๋„๋กœ ๋“ฑ์„ ๊ฑด์„คํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
75:16
Yeah. It's quite fun. There'sย  also expansions on that.ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ฝค ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ™•์žฅ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:19
That can make it longer. Dan:ย 
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75:19
Theo would love that game. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
Theo๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
75:20
I think he could play it. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋Œ„:
75:21
Yeah. We got to play that with my son. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žฌ์ƒํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
75:23
Yeah. That'd be fun. Anyway. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„. Dan:
75:24
He's going to like games too. We'reย  going to get in a lot of family argumentsย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ๋ฒŒ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:28
Vanessa: About being competitive. Actually. He playedย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ. ๊ทธ๋Š”
75:32
Settlers of CATAN Jr. Dan:ย 
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CATAN Jr.์˜ Settlers๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
75:34
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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75:34
Which is the kid's version. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด์šฉ ๋ฒ„์ „์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
75:35
He did amazing. Yesterday. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์ œ. Vanessa:
75:36
Yesterday, for the first timeย  and you were playing with him.ย 
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์–ด์ œ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋†€์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:39
Dan: I helped him a lot, but he still got it.ย 
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Dan: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋„์™”์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:43
Vanessa: Cool. That's a newย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
75:44
phase in parenting. When we can- Dan:ย 
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์œก์•„์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ- ๋Œ„:
75:45
He's not even five yet and he still sat throughย  turns and listened to the rules and he looked atย ย 
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์•„์ง 5์‚ด๋„ ์•ˆ ๋๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉฐ ๊ทœ์น™์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ 
75:51
the little chart and figured it out and stuff. Vanessa:ย 
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์ž‘์€ ์ฐจํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์•Œ์•„๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
75:52
That's cool. Dan:ย 
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๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”. ๋Œ„:
75:53
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
75:54
That sounds fun. I would- Dan:ย 
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋„ค์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š”- ๋Œ„:
75:55
It was impressive. Vanessa:ย 
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์ธ์ƒ์ ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
75:57
I like little kid stuff, but I really like- Dan:ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง- Dan:
76:00
Big kid stuff. Vanessa:ย 
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ํฐ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”. Vanessa:
76:01
... playing baseball with your kids or playingย  Settlers of CATAN with your kids. Stuff that Iย ย 
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... ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•ผ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ CATAN์˜ ์ •์ฐฉ๋ฏผ ๋†€์ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๋‚˜๋„
76:06
enjoy too. Like for example, we're going to anย  aquarium for our five year old's birthday. I likeย ย 
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์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 5์‚ด ์ƒ์ผ์„ ๋งž์•„ ์ˆ˜์กฑ๊ด€์— ๊ฐˆ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”
76:12
aquariums and this isn't something that's just forย  kids. It's for us too. And it's for his birthday.ย ย 
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์ˆ˜์กฑ๊ด€์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์•„์ด๋“ค๋งŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ƒ์ผ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:18
So a new stage of the ... Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์˜ ... ๋Œ„:
76:20
The giant critter museum. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋™๋ฌผ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€. Vanessa:
76:21
That's Dan's favorite. Dan:ย 
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Dan์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
76:24
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
76:25
Anyway, that was a little detour. So I want toย  know for you, what game do you feel competitiveย ย 
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์šฐํšŒ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์„ ๋Š๋ผ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
76:29
about? Or maybe you are a non-competitiveย  person. You play a game and you're like,ย ย 
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? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ•˜๊ณ ๋Š”
76:35
"I can win. I don't have to win. It's okay." Orย  maybe you are super competitive. Let us know inย ย 
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"๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ธธ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์–ด. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„." ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:40
the comments what's a game you feel competitiveย  about and we'll go to our next question. Question.ย ย 
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๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‹ฌ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ.
76:45
Number 13 is about celebrities or maybe theyย  don't have to be celebrities. Interesting people.ย 
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13๋ฒˆ์€ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค.
76:53
Dan: Famous people.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค.
76:54
Vanessa: This is a common-ย 
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76:54
Dan: Infamous people.ย 
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Vanessa: ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ-
Dan: ์•…๋ช… ๋†’์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:55
Vanessa: ... question, common conversation questionย ย 
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Vanessa: ...์งˆ๋ฌธ, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
76:59
to spice things up. I'm having a specialย  dinner party. Who is someone dead or aliveย ย 
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. ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋””๋„ˆ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃฝ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜ ์‚ด์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
77:05
who you would like to invite? Dan:ย 
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์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
77:07
Yeah, I feel like I've answeredย  something similar to this recently.ย 
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๋„ค, ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ด์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:11
Vanessa: Oh, okay.ย 
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77:11
Dan: And I give this answer a lot,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
Dan: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ธฐ
77:13
so I'm very current. I just want to knowย  what's going on in the world now. So I wouldย ย 
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งค์šฐ ์ตœ์‹  ์ •๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
77:18
just invite the current president. Okay. So Joeย  Biden, I would actually take Donald Trump too,ย ย 
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ํ˜„์ง ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น๋งŒ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Joe Biden, ์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ Donald Trump๋„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:24
just because I can't believe these people existย  and are so annoying and dumb. I want to see whatย ย 
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ณ  ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์งœ์ฆ๋‚˜๊ณ  ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง„์งœ ์–ด๋–ค์ง€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”
77:31
they're really like. Are they really as ridiculousย  and empty as they seem? Are they faking it? I wantย ย 
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. ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ •๋ง ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ๊ณตํ—ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์†์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‚˜๋Š”
77:39
to ask them tough questions and see if Joe Bidenย  just falls asleep in the middle of dinner, or ifย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์กฐ ๋ฐ”์ด๋“ ์ด ์ €๋… ์‹์‚ฌ ๋„์ค‘์— ์ž ์ด ๋“œ๋Š”์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
77:44
Donald Trump just ... I guess he seems pretty ...ย  Yeah. He'd probably just blow if he ate something.ย ย 
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๋„๋„๋“œ ํŠธ๋Ÿผํ”„๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ง€...๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ๋ป ๋ณด์ด๋Š”์ง€... ์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋จน์œผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ„ฐ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:50
But yeah, I want to get into their heads or tryย  to, and just see how ridiculous they are in realย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ ์†์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ  , ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด์ง€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
77:56
life. Because again- Vanessa:ย 
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. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ Vanessa:
77:58
You're just curious. Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ์ € ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
77:59
I live my life and then I see these are the peopleย  running the country and I just can't put thatย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ฉ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ณ 
78:07
together and it makes me feel upset usually. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ณดํ†ต ์†์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
78:10
They don't seem like real people. Dan:ย 
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์‹ค์ œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
78:12
Yeah. They're not. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
78:14
So having a dinner conversation with somebody canย  bring out the real them, the real inside look.ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์ €๋… ์‹์‚ฌ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๋‚ด๋ฉด์„ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:22
Dan: Sure. Oh yeah. That's another keyย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ์˜ค ์˜ˆ. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•ต์‹ฌ
78:25
element. I'd get them really drunk. Vanessa:ย 
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์š”์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ทจํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
78:28
Okay. Dan:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
78:29
Got to spike their drinks a little bitย  more. And this is not what I'd really do,ย ย 
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์Œ๋ฃŒ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋Š˜๋ ค์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•  ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
78:33
but this is the hypothetical world where I getย  Donald Trump at my dinner table or Joe Biden.ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ €๋… ์‹์‚ฌ ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์—์„œ ๋„๋„๋“œ ํŠธ๋Ÿผํ”„๋‚˜ ์กฐ ๋ฐ”์ด๋“ ์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ƒ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:38
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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78:38
Dan: Joe Biden would just fall asleep. I'mย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”.
Dan: Joe Biden์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ž ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:40
convinced. He's old and just not with it. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋Š™์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
78:43
Okay. Well. Dan:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜. Dan:
78:45
But he'd probably share a lot ofย  information if you got them tipsy.ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ทจํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:47
Vanessa: That would be very interesting.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:49
Dan: Yeah. Just how close are your fingersย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์€
78:52
to the nuclear buttons, Mr. President? Vanessa:ย 
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ํ•ต ๋ฒ„ํŠผ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น๋‹˜? Vanessa:
78:55
Do we want to know? Dan:ย 
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์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
78:56
No. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. Vanessa:
78:57
Well, I feel like for my answer to thisย  question, I chose to go much more personal.ย ย 
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์Œ, ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:03
And that's usually when I thinkย  about this question, I alwaysย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณดํ†ต ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
79:07
think that more. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
79:10
This is the difference between you and me. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋‚˜์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
79:12
Yeah. Because if I met with theย  current or past presidents of the US,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ํ˜„์ง ๋˜๋Š” ์ „์ง ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น์„ ๋งŒ๋‚œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
79:19
I don't know what I would do with thatย  information. Okay, so this is what they'reย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ •๋ณด๋กœ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ข‹์•„์š”, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
79:23
like now, what do I do? Dan:ย 
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์ง€๊ธˆ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
79:24
Share it to the world. Vanessa:ย 
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์„ธ์ƒ๊ณผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
79:26
But I think- Dan:ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”- Dan: ์•„๋ฌด๋„
79:27
Nobody'd believe you. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
79:28
I would be very interested from a personalย  standpoint to meet, on my question number one Iย ย 
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ ์˜จ
79:34
mentioned Antoinette Menifee, my great grandma whoย  came from Italy. I would be very interested to sitย ย 
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์ฆ์กฐํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์ธ Antoinette Menifee๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
79:41
down and have a conversation at dinner with her. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ €๋… ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
79:43
That would be very interesting. Vanessa:ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
79:44
What kind of woman is sheย  that she met a random man,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์—ฌ์ž์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ž„์˜์˜ ๋‚จ์ž๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜
79:47
moved to another country, left her family,ย  never saw them again and raised six children inย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ๋– ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์—ฌ์„ฏ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์› ๋‚˜์š”
79:55
the US? And here we are. Dan:ย 
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? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
79:58
I have a question. Vanessa:ย 
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79:58
I'd be very interested. Dan:ย 
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
๋งค์šฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
79:59
Would you go back in time or would she comeย  to current time in this hypothetical universe?ย 
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฑฐ์Šฌ๋Ÿฌ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ด ๊ฐ€์ƒ์˜ ์šฐ์ฃผ์—์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์˜ค์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
80:05
Vanessa: She would come to current times.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ๋Œ€์— ์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:08
Dan: So you want to show her the future?ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ˆ?
80:10
Vanessa: I wouldn't show herย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
80:11
anything. I would just be eating dinner with herย  and she would have her entire life experience.ย ย 
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ €๋…์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ‰์ƒ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:15
Okay. So I don't want her to be like, soย  maybe it doesn't matter 90 years old when sheย ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ 90์‚ด์ด ๋˜์–ด๋„
80:20
can't remember things, but I don't want herย  to be 30 years old and she hasn't had a lot ofย ย 
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๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ 30์‚ด์ด ๋˜์–ด์„œ
80:24
experiences yet. So this is a magical question. Dan:ย 
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์•„์ง ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งˆ๋ฒ• ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
80:26
60? Vanessa:ย 
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60? Vanessa:
80:27
I don't know. Dan:ย 
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์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
80:28
How long did she live, anyways? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์‚ด์•˜๋‚˜์š”? Vanessa:
80:30
I don't know. I met her when I- Dan:ย 
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์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ- ๋Œ„:
80:32
You did? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”? Vanessa:
80:33
There's a picture of me on her lap as a baby. Dan:ย 
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๋ฌด๋ฆŽ ์œ„์— ์•„๊ธฐ ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๋Œ„:
80:35
Oh. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค. Vanessa:
80:36
So she lived at least till like 1987,ย  1988. I don't know how old she was,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ ์–ด๋„ 1987๋…„, 1988๋…„๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ
80:42
but I'm sure she was- Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€- Dan:
80:43
She was probably pretty old. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๊ฝค ๋Š™์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
80:44
She had a lot of life experiences and I'm alwaysย  curious about what life was like back then. Andย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ๋งŽ์•˜๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์˜ ์‚ถ์ด ์–ด๋• ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
80:49
I think it would be a personal touch to beย  like, "Oh, this was someone who is part of meย ย 
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"์•„, ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‚ด ์ผ๋ถ€์ด์ž ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์•ผ
80:54
and some roots." Anyway, that'sย  my answer. So I'm curious for you,ย ย 
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." ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:59
if you had a magical dinner party, who would youย  like to invite someone dead or alive? Let us knowย ย 
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๋งˆ๋ฒ• ๊ฐ™์€ ๋””๋„ˆ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‚˜์š”?
81:05
in the comments. I'm curious to see what youย  have to say and let's go to our next question.ย 
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๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:08
Vanessa: The 14th question is aboutย ย 
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Vanessa: 14๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์• ์™„๋™๋ฌผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
81:10
pets. What kind of pet would you like to have? Dan:ย 
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. ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์• ์™„ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? Dan:
81:14
What kind of pet? If I could have any pets. Vanessa:ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์• ์™„๋™๋ฌผ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์• ์™„ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ํ‚ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด. Vanessa:
81:16
If you could have any pet. Dan:ย 
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์• ์™„๋™๋ฌผ์„ ํ‚ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”. Dan:
81:17
In the world. Vanessa:ย 
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์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
81:18
Yes. Dan:ย 
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81:18
That I don't already have. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
์•„์ง ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
81:20
Well, we have chickens. Dan:ย 
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์Œ, ๋‹ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
81:21
We have cats and chickens. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ณ ์–‘์ด์™€ ๋‹ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ, ๊ณ ์–‘์ด
81:22
Tadpoles that turned into frogs, cats.ย  Do we have anything else at the moment?ย 
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๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•œ ์˜ฌ์ฑ™์ด. ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
81:27
Dan: Well, okay.ย ย 
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81:27
I can think of one ... Vanessa:ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”.
ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... Vanessa:
81:28
A caterpillar. Dan:ย 
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์• ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ์š”. ๋Œ„:
81:29
... that does not really fit our family. Vanessa:ย 
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... ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋งž์ง€ ์•Š์•„. Vanessa:
81:31
Okay. Dan:ย 
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81:31
And it is a smart dog that doesn't bark too much. Vanessa:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์ด ์ง–์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์˜๋ฆฌํ•œ ๊ฐœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
81:36
Our child hates barking dogs. Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋Š” ์ง–๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
81:38
Well, I hate barking too. Vanessa:ย 
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์Œ, ๋‚˜๋„ ์ง–๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์‹ซ์–ด. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
81:39
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
81:40
But I really like dogs to a degree. Certain dogsย  I really like, because I just feel like humans andย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ํŠน์ • ๊ฐœ๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๊ฐœ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
81:48
dogs, they really are man's best friend. But whenย  I think about how much work a dog takes and it'sย ย 
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์ •๋ง ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
81:54
like almost taking on another family member. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์›์„ ๋– ๋งก๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
81:57
Oh yeah. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ. Dan:
81:58
And it just doesn't really fit. Not to mentionย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๋งž์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์ด
82:02
our oldest son is extremely afraid of dogs. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํฐ์•„๋“ค์€ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
82:06
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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82:06
And he really, really does not like them. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
82:08
Yeah. If you have any tips about how to helpย  kids feel more comfortable with dogs withoutย ย 
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๋„ค. ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ฐœ์—๊ฒŒ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ฐœ์™€ ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋„๋ก ๋•๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
82:11
traumatizing them, I need some help. Dan:ย 
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๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
82:13
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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82:13
Let me know in the comments. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. Dan:
82:14
We're working on. It. It's a work in progress. Vanessa:ย 
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์ž‘์—… ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ. ์ง„ํ–‰์ค‘์ธ ์ž‘์—…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
82:16
Yep. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
82:18
But also, I don't think youย  like dogs as much as I do.ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚˜๋งŒํผ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
82:21
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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82:21
Dan: I don't think you would putย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
๋Œ„:
82:23
it on a bucket list. It's almost a bucket listย  thing for me to have a dog someday. A cool dog,ย ย 
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๋ฒ„ํ‚ท๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋„ฃ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ฒ„ํ‚ท๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:29
like a Border Collie or an Australian Shepherd.ย  Something that's noble, smart, fast, cunning andย ย 
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๋ณด๋” ์ฝœ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ์˜ค์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์ผ๋ฆฌ์–ธ ์…ฐํผ๋“œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฐœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ , ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋น ๋ฅด๊ณ , ๊ตํ™œํ•˜๊ณ ,
82:37
difficult to keep. Because border collies areย  notorious for needing lots and lots of exercise.ย 
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์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ. ๋ณด๋” ์ฝœ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์šด๋™์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•…๋ช… ๋†’๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:43
Vanessa: Yeah. If we were farmers,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋†๋ถ€๋ผ๋ฉด
82:46
maybe. We worked on a farm. Dan:ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋†์žฅ์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
82:47
We're getting there. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
82:48
But we have a big garden. We worked on a farm inย  the south of France and they had a Border Collieย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํฐ ์ •์›์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ๋‚จ๋ถ€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋†์žฅ์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
82:54
that was so fun and so smart. Dan:ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํ•œ ๋ณด๋” ์ฝœ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
82:56
You could see the intelligence in that dog's eyes. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ ๊ฐœ์˜ ๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ์ง€๋Šฅ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
82:59
Oh yeah. That dog was amazing. But thatย  dog was living in the perfect place. It hadย ย 
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ ๊ฐœ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๊ฐœ๋Š” ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:04
endless stimulation, endless exercise. Dan:ย 
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๋์—†๋Š” ์ž๊ทน๊ณผ ๋Š์ž„์—†๋Š” ์šด๋™์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
83:06
Never went inside. Vanessa:ย 
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83:06
That dog could work there. Yeah. It was great.ย  But I think it's also smart to know what animalsย ย 
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์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
๊ทธ ๊ฐœ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์‘. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ๋™๋ฌผ์ด
83:12
don't fit your life. And for us, at leastย  at the moment, we have a lot of smart, fastย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๋งž์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”์ง€ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ ์–ด๋„ ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š”
83:21
running around creatures in our houseย  called children. So we're at our capacity.ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์—๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๋น ๋ฅธ ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:26
Dan: Yes. Yeah. And there's also moreย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
83:29
dogs that I actually dislike than like. There'sย  a lot of dogs I'm just like, "No, thank you."ย ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € "์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:35
Small yippy dogs, no. No, thanks. No. Vanessa:ย 
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์ž‘์€ yippy ๊ฐœ, ์•„๋‹ˆ. ๊ณ ๋ง™์ง€ ๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์–‘ ํ• ๊ฒŒ. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. Vanessa:
83:37
It's not your style. Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹  ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”. ๋Œ„:
83:38
Not my thing. Vanessa:ย 
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์ œ ์ทจํ–ฅ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
83:39
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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83:39
It'd need to be bigger, smarter, noble, cunning.ย  These are the words that come to my mind when Iย ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๋” ํฌ๊ณ , ๋” ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ณ ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ตํ™œํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฐ•์•„์ง€๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
83:44
think of a cool dog. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
83:45
Okay, yeah. A dog that helps you inย  some way too. A working dog, maybe.ย 
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๋„ค, ๋„ค. ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋„์™€์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฐœ . ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐœ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„.
83:49
Dan: Sure. That's not even necessary.ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:51
Just one that can catch a Frisbee. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ”„๋ฆฌ์Šค๋น„๋ฅผ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹จ ํ•˜๋‚˜. Vanessa:
83:53
Oh, that sounds fun. Cool. Well,ย  our kids are getting there.ย ย 
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์˜ค, ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒ ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์›ํ•œ. ์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:58
Did you have another one? I thoughtย  you said you had a second one.ย 
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ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด? ๋‘˜์งธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
84:01
Dan: Oh, well, so I also said some fish.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ƒ์„ ๋„ ์ข€ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
84:04
Vanessa: Oh.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค.
84:05
Dan: Like a giant fish.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
84:06
Vanessa: What's giant mean?ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ฑฐ์ธ์ด ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ด์•ผ?
84:07
Dan: This is-ย 
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84:07
Vanessa: Like a whale?ย 
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Dan: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€-
Vanessa: ๊ณ ๋ž˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ?
84:08
Dan: Both of these are unrealistic.ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋น„ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ด๋‹ค.
84:10
Because you said any pet. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์• ์™„ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ๋งํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
84:11
Yeah. It's okay. We can dream. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
84:14
When you get into the aquarium world. Let meย  tell you about the aquarium world. You can getย ย 
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์ˆ˜์กฑ๊ด€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ. ์ˆ˜์กฑ๊ด€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
84:18
pretty detailed and intense about it. And thereย  are some really cool fish. There's one, I thinkย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฝค ์ƒ์„ธํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
84:24
it's called a arowana. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋กœ์™€๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
84:26
Okay. Dan:ย 
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84:26
I want to say, and they can get like this big. Vanessa:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ปค์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
84:30
What kind of tank do you have to have? Dan:ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํƒฑํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์„ธ์š”? Dan:
84:31
They're shiny and they can be gold or red,ย  but they'll literally sell for $10,000.ย 
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๊ด‘ํƒ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ธˆ์ƒ‰์ด๋‚˜ ๋นจ๊ฐ„์ƒ‰์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ 10,000๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์— ํŒ๋งค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:37
Vanessa: What? And you probably have toย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋ญ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„
84:39
have a tank the size of this room. Dan:ย 
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์ด ๋ฐฉ ํฌ๊ธฐ์˜ ํƒฑํฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
84:41
And you need a big tank. Probablyย  not the size of the room.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฐ ํƒฑํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ฐฉ์˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:43
Vanessa: Oh my goodness.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์„ธ์ƒ์—.
84:44
Dan: I wouldn't want to spend money on it.ย ย 
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Dan: ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:46
I'd never bring myself to spend money on it. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
84:48
You can't justify spending money on it. Dan:ย 
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๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
84:49
If somebody just gave me the suppliesย  and the fish, I'd set it up and be happy.ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์žฌ๋ฃŒ ์™€ ์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ ์ค€๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ค์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ–‰๋ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:55
Vanessa: Okay. That's a good dream. Yeah. Like my dream.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์ข‹์•„์š”. ์ข‹์€ ๊ฟˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋‚ด ๊ฟˆ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
84:59
Dan: Yeah. How about you?ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š”?
85:00
Vanessa: I said-ย 
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85:00
Dan: A dinosaur.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€-
Dan: ๊ณต๋ฃก.
85:01
Vanessa: No, I said a cow.ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์†Œ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด.
85:04
Dan: Oh.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค.
85:05
Vanessa: Yeah. I think it would be cool to have a cow, but-ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ-
85:08
Dan: Daisy.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋ฐ์ด์ง€.
85:09
Vanessa: The only way I would have a cow is if basicallyย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ –์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
85:14
I was just the owner and someone else came everyย  day to milk the cow. Somebody prepared, took careย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ฃผ์ธ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งค์ผ ์ –์†Œ์˜ ์ –์„ ์งœ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
85:21
of the cow. I don't want to take care of it. Dan:ย 
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค. Dan:
85:23
And in this scenario you're a noble woman. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด ์‹œ๋‚˜๋ฆฌ์˜ค์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ณ ๊ท€ํ•œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
85:25
Yes. Dan:ย 
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85:25
Living in her manor. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ €ํƒ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
85:27
Yes. And I would say, "Go take care of my cowย  down there." Basically. I just want lots of milk.ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "์ € ์•„๋ž˜์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚ด ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š” ."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›๋ž˜. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋งŽ์€ ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:31
Lots of milk- Dan:ย 
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85:31
Free milk. Vanessa:ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์šฐ์œ - ๋Œ„:
๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ์šฐ์œ . Vanessa:
85:32
... to make ... It's not free.ย  There's a lot of work into a cow.ย 
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... ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ... ๊ณต์งœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:35
Dan: Okay. Not so free.ย 
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85:35
Vanessa: I have to pay the personย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ž์œ ๋กญ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Vanessa: ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
85:37
who takes care of the cow. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
85:38
You're not touching udders. Vanessa:ย 
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์ –ํ†ต์„ ๋งŒ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa: ์‹ ์„ ํ•œ ์ –์†Œ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ
85:40
Having endless amounts of yogurt, cheese, milk,ย  that's from your fresh dairy cow. That's cool.ย ย 
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์š”๊ฑฐํŠธ, ์น˜์ฆˆ, ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ๋์—†์ด ๋จน๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”.
85:50
But it's also extremely hard. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
85:53
They poop all over your yard. Vanessa:ย 
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๋งˆ๋‹น ์ „์ฒด์— ๋˜ฅ์„ ์‹ธ์š”. Vanessa:
85:55
Well, I don't even need to keep it in my yard. Dan:ย 
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์Œ, ๋งˆ๋‹น์— ๋‘˜ ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์–ด์š”. Dan:
85:57
So do the chickens. Oh. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹ญ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค. Vanessa:
85:58
It would be on my farm.ย 
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์ œ ๋†์žฅ์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
85:59
Dan: Oh.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์˜ค.
86:00
Vanessa: It would beย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
86:01
in someone else's farm andย  I would just own that cow.ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋†์žฅ์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์†Œ์œ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:03
Dan: On your manor.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ €ํƒ์—.
86:04
Vanessa: But there's actually,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š”
86:05
I was thinking about this the other day, we stayedย  at an Airbnb that was a farm and they have someย ย 
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์ €๋ฒˆ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋†์žฅ์ธ ์—์–ด๋น„์•ค๋น„์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š”
86:11
cows and horses and chickens and they have a milkย  sharing program where you can buy part of the cow.ย ย 
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์†Œ์™€ ๋ง๊ณผ ๋‹ญ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์†Œ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์šฐ์œ  ๊ณต์œ  ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:20
So you're not actually like I buy the leg of theย  cow, that kind of thing. They're saying, if youย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์†Œ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด
86:26
buy part of the cow, the ownership of thisย  cow, you will get a certain amount of milkย ย 
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์†Œ์˜ ์†Œ์œ ๊ถŒ์ธ ์†Œ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ฉด
86:33
per month from that cow.ย  So it's what I'm thinking.ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์†Œ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋งค์›” ์ผ์ •๋Ÿ‰์˜ ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ์–ป์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:38
You don't have to do any work, but you get theย  milk. Yeah. And you pay for it. But it's localย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ๋„ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€์—ญ์ 
86:43
and it's going back to justifying, spendingย  more money on high quality animal products.ย 
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์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ณ ํ’ˆ์งˆ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ฑ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋‹นํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:49
Dan: We could just do that.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:51
Vanessa: We eat a lot of yogurt and I hateย ย 
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Vanessa: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์š”๊ฑฐํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน๋Š”๋ฐ
86:53
to buy all the yogurt. We buy a bulk big yogurtย  container, but we go through so many of those.ย ย 
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์š”๊ฑฐํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ ์‹ซ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰์˜ ํฐ ์š”๊ฑฐํŠธ ์šฉ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒช์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:58
We eat yogurt a lot. Our kids eat yogurt a lot. Dan:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์š”๊ตฌ๋ฅดํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์š”๊ฑฐํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
87:00
Our kids love yogurt. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์š”๊ตฌ๋ฅดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
87:01
Yeah. I think that if we had somethingย  like a milk sharing program, we would,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ์œ  ๊ณต์œ  ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:10
or I would be more inclined to just make someย  yogurt in the Crockpot or something and haveย ย 
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๋˜๋Š” ์ €๋Š” ํฌ๋กํŒŸ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์š”๊ฑฐํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด
87:14
that at home. Anyway. Dan:ย 
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์ง‘์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„. Dan:
87:16
That's a very Vanessa answer. Vanessa:ย 
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Vanessa์˜ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
87:17
That's a dream. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฟˆ์ด์—์š”. Dan:
87:18
A cow that you don't want to take care of. Vanessa:ย 
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๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์†Œ. Vanessa:
87:21
No, I don't want to take care of it. Dan:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan: ์—์–ด๋น„์•ค๋น„์—์„œ
87:22
Those people that had the cow at theย  Airbnb, they looked really tired.ย 
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์†Œ๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์šฐ๋˜ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•ด ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:25
Vanessa: They said-ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ-
87:26
Dan: They had three cows,ย ย 
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Dan: ์†Œ ์„ธ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ, ์†Œ
87:27
two cows? Vanessa:ย 
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๋‘ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ? Vanessa: ์†Œ๊ฐ€
87:28
They said the word we would use to describe havingย  a cow is relentless. They said rain or shine,ย ย 
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์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ฐจ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”. ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋‚˜ ๋ˆˆ์ด ์˜ค๋‚˜,
87:36
sick or not. Dan:ย 
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์•„ํ”„๋“  ๋ง๋“ . Dan:
87:37
You got to milk them. Vanessa:ย 
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87:37
Christmas or Thanksgiving, any day, twice a day,ย  they have to go to the barn and milk that cow.ย 
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์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ์งœ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋‚˜ ์ถ”์ˆ˜๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ, ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ—›๊ฐ„์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ –์†Œ์˜ ์ –์„ ์งœ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:43
Dan: Yeah. And it's just two people there.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—๋Š” ๋‹จ ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:44
Vanessa: Yeah. They didn't hire anyone toย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋„์™€์ค„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ณ ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ
87:46
help them, so they never get a vacation, whichย  they could hire someone to help occasionally.ย 
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ณ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:50
Dan: I will just say-ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋งํ• ๊ฒŒ-
87:51
Vanessa: Anyway. Not my style.ย 
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87:51
Dan: I saw a twinge of regret in her eyesย ย 
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Vanessa: ์–ด์จŒ๋“ . ๋‚ด ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ.
Dan:
87:54
when she was talking about this decision. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ด ๊ฒฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ํ›„ํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
87:56
Yeah. They loved those cows and they tookย  good care of them. But they're like, "Oh,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ž˜ ๋Œ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ "์˜ค,
87:59
this is relentless." Dan:ย 
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์ด๊ฑด ๊ฐ€์ฐจ์—†๋‹ค." ๋Œ„:
88:00
Yeah. Because in their previous life, theyย  weren't ... Well life. Jobs or careers,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ „์ƒ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง์—…์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ,
88:05
they weren't farmers at all. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋†๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
88:06
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan: ๋†์‚ฌ๋กœ
88:07
They made a conscious decision to go back toย ย 
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๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜์‹์ ์ธ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
88:10
farming. Vanessa:ย 
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88:10
Yeah. Anyway, that's my answer, a cow. Dan:ย 
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. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
๋„ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด์•ผ, ์†Œ. Dan:
88:14
That could be you. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
88:15
That could be me. We'll see.ย  Anyway, what about you? What pet,ย ย 
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์ €์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์–ด๋–ค ์• ์™„๋™๋ฌผ, ์„ธ์ƒ์˜
88:19
if you could have any pet in the world, or anyย  animal really, it doesn't even have to be a pet,ย ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ์• ์™„๋™๋ฌผ์ด๋ผ๋„ ํ‚ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ๋™๋ฌผ์ด๋“  ์• ์™„๋™๋ฌผ์ผ ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:24
what would you have? Let us know in the comments.ย  And we'll go to our final question. Are you ready?ย 
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๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ‚ค์šฐ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค€๋น„ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
88:29
Dan: Ready.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ค€๋น„๋์–ด.
88:30
Vanessa: Let's go. The final question. Question number 15.ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๊ฐ€์ž. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋ฒˆํ˜ธ 15.
88:35
We've made it this far is about books.ย  Something that's a love of my life. Theย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ฑ…์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€-
88:41
question is- Dan:ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ œ
88:42
And not as much mine. Vanessa:ย 
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์ƒ๊ฐ๋งŒํผ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
88:43
Yeah, so I'm very curious whatย  you have to say about this.ย ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ
88:46
What is a book that you would recommendย  everyone read because you loved it so much?ย 
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์ถ”์ฒœํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ฑ…์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š” ?
88:51
Dan: Yeah. My answer's definitely a cop out here.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค. ๋‚ด ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์ด์•ผ.
88:54
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
88:55
Dan: Because I don't read that much. Andย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ์ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
88:59
the most I ever read, we had a book club and itย  basically required me to read. And I like readingย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์ด ์ฝ์€ ์ฑ…์€ ๋ถํด๋Ÿฝ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฝ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋…์„œ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
89:05
a lot. I just don't do it. I find myself listeningย  to something or watching something first.ย ย 
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋จผ์ € ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:12
So my cop out answer is some parenting book. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ ์ถœ๋‘ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์€ ์œก์•„ ์ฑ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
89:17
Oh, okay. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
89:18
So the one that comes to my mind is calledย  Peaceful Parenting, but I don't think itย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ Peaceful Parenting์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
89:23
specifically has to be that. It just has to beย  something that is not too modern, but not justย ย 
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. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ˜„๋Œ€์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด์„œ
89:32
handed down generationally, like, "I just do whatย  my parents did." Something intentional, trainingย ย 
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" ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ํ•˜์‹  ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๋ฟ"๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ์„ธ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ•ด์ ธ ๋‚ด๋ ค์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๋„์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ,
89:38
people basically how to be better, kinder, gentlerย  parents for their children. How to talk to themย ย 
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ์ข‹๊ณ , ๋” ์นœ์ ˆํ•˜๊ณ , ๋” ๋ถ€๋“œ๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ต์œกํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋” ์ž˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•
89:46
better. There's a lot of strategies and tips youย  can get for talking about or talking to children.ย ย 
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์ž๋…€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž๋…€์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ „๋žต๊ณผ ํŒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:54
And the book also needs to have like a lotย  of what's that child psychology informing itย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์ฑ…์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด์—
90:01
scientifically because the more you learn aboutย  children, the more you learn that they areย ย 
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๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์•Œ์ˆ˜๋ก ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๊ฐ€
90:08
developing at different times and rates andย  you might think they can handle something,ย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ์†๋„๋กœ ๋ฐœ๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณผํ•™์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•™์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:13
but in reality, their brains literally can'tย  handle it. So that gives you more patience.ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋‘๋‡Œ๋Š” ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ธ๋‚ด์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:17
Vanessa: Yeah.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค.
90:18
Dan: Because there's a lot of people,ย ย 
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Dan: ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:19
a lot of parents who just think their kids areย  stubborn or just want to yell at them for things,ย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์™„๊ณ ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ฅด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด
90:25
but they don't really get the full pictureย  about the child's development and their needs.ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž๋…€์˜ ๋ฐœ๋‹ฌ๊ณผ ํ•„์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ „์ฒด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:31
Vanessa: Yeah. Yeah.ย 
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90:31
Dan: So that's my answer even thoughย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์‘.
Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:33
it's not really one specific book. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ํ•œ ๊ถŒ์˜ ์ฑ…์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ์š”. Vanessa:
90:35
Don't worry. Dan:ย 
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90:35
I have other books that I really enjoyed, butย  maybe aren't as relevant to people. One that cameย ย 
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๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. Dan:
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฑ…์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์—†์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:41
to my mind is called Educated. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ต์œก๋ฐ›์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
90:43
Oh, that was an interesting book. Yeah. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค, ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฑ…์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์‘. Dan:
90:45
But that feels really relevant to me because I wasย  homeschooled. And so this girl was homeschooled,ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ €์™€ ์ •๋ง ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๊ปด์š” . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
90:52
but in a really bad environment. And so it's thatย  story basically of being extremely sheltered. Andย ย 
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์ •๋ง ์—ด์•…ํ•œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทน๋„๋กœ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
91:03
basically even in that terrible environment,ย  there's almost pros and cons to it.ย ย 
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋”์ฐํ•œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ๋„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์žฅ๋‹จ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:08
It almost made her stronger in someย  ways, even though it was awful.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋”์ฐํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
91:11
Vanessa: That's an interesting story.ย 
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Vanessa: ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋„ค์š”.
91:13
Dan: That was a very interesting book to me.ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฑ…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:14
Vanessa: Yeah. I would say for the parenting books,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์œก์•„ ์ฑ…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
91:19
I have an Amazon link. Dan:ย 
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Amazon ๋งํฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
91:22
She's got a list for you. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
91:24
I do. It's a Speak English With Vanessa Amazonย  book storefront. So I've chosen a bunch of booksย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Speak English With Vanessa Amazon ์„œ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
91:31
that I recommend because I've made a lot of videosย  about books on this channel. So in the descriptionย ย 
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์ด ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ถ”์ฒœํ•˜๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
91:36
of this video, you can see the Amazon link forย  my book recommendations and there's differentย ย 
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์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์˜ ์„ค๋ช…์—์„œ ๋‚ด ์ฑ… ์ถ”์ฒœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ Amazon ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ
91:41
folders. There's children's books, there'sย  beginner English books. If you've never readย ย 
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ํด๋”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋™ ๋„์„œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ดˆ๊ธ‰ ์˜์–ด ๋„์„œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:46
a book in English before, this is what I recommendย  reading there's intermediate books, there'sย ย 
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์ด์ „์— ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์€ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ถ”์ฒœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๊ธ‰ ๋„์„œ,
91:52
nonfiction books. Vanessa:ย 
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๋…ผํ”ฝ์…˜ ๋„์„œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
91:53
And in that children's book section are books forย  children, but also parenting book recommendationsย ย 
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์•„๋™ ๋„์„œ ์„น์…˜์—๋Š” ์•„๋™์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋„์„œ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
91:59
that have really impacted us and have beenย  useful in our lives. For example, a book calledย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์— ์œ ์šฉํ–ˆ๋˜ ์œก์•„ ๋„์„œ ์ถ”์ฒœ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
92:05
Hunt, Gather, Parent. There's another bookย  called Peaceful Parent, Happy Kids. And if youย ย 
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Hunt, Gather, Parent๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‰ํ™”๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ชจ, ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฑ…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
92:11
have more than one child Peaceful Parent, Happyย  Siblings is amazing. We've read a lot of theseย ย 
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์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๋ช… ์ด์ƒ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํ‰ํ™”๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ชจ, ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ํ˜•์ œ์ž๋งค๋Š” ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ
92:18
styles of books. And I think it's just changingย  your mindset about how to respect your child,ย ย 
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์Šคํƒ€์ผ์˜ ์ฑ…์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ์กด์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ
92:23
but also still be the authority. Dan:ย 
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๋ฟ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ถŒ์œ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
92:25
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
92:26
Anyway, like Dan said- Dan:ย 
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92:26
It's a tough balance. Vanessa:ย 
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  Dan์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด- Dan:
ํž˜๋“  ๊ท ํ˜•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
92:27
... some psychology as well. So there's aย  lot of recommendations. If you click on thatย ย 
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...์‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•™๋„์š”. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ถŒ์žฅ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:31
Amazon link and you would like to dive into theย  world of a better relationship with your child,ย 
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Amazon ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž๋…€์™€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ด€๊ณ„์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋กœ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
92:36
Dan: Especially if you got kids out there.ย 
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Dan: ํŠนํžˆ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ.
92:38
Vanessa: Oh yeah. Or you are interacting with children.ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์˜ค ๊ทธ๋ž˜. ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:41
Anyway, it's very insightful. My recommendationย  was also on a similar nonfiction route. Becauseย ย 
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋งค์šฐ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ถ”์ฒœ ๋„ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋…ผํ”ฝ์…˜ ๊ฒฝ๋กœ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
92:49
I've read a lot of fiction that's personallyย  made me feel passionate about different topics.ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ด์ •์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์†Œ์„ค์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:55
And I love reading fiction and diving intoย  different worlds, especially historicalย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์†Œ์„ค์„ ์ฝ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ธ๊ณ„, ํŠนํžˆ ์—ญ์‚ฌ
92:59
fiction where you're learning about something inย  history. But I would say the book that made meย ย 
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์—์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์—ญ์‚ฌ ์†Œ์„ค์„ ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
93:05
within the last two years, theย  most passionate, can you guess?ย 
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์ง€๋‚œ 2๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์—ด์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ์ฑ…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
93:10
Dan: Something about Native Americans?ย 
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Dan: ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด ์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ?
93:13
Vanessa: No, I do read a lot about native Americansย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด ์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
93:15
though. Is a book called Digital Minimalism. Dan:ย 
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. ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ์ฆ˜์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
93:18
Oh yeah. I thought you were talking fiction. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์†Œ์„ค์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜์–ด์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
93:20
Yes. Which is- Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ- ๋Œ„:
93:21
Or nonfiction. Vanessa:ย 
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๋˜๋Š” ๋…ผํ”ฝ์…˜. Vanessa:
93:22
Oh, this one is not fiction. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค, ์ด๊ฑด ํ—ˆ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
93:23
This is nonfiction. Vanessa:ย 
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๋…ผํ”ฝ์…˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
93:24
It's ironic because we are hereย  sharing this on social media.ย 
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์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์—์„œ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„์ด๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:27
Dan: Yeah.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
93:28
Vanessa: But if you feel like youย ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
93:31
look at your phone too much, or if you feel like,ย  "Why did it seem like life was so much more simpleย ย 
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ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ "1990๋…„๋Œ€์— ์‚ถ์ด ์™œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•ด ๋ณด์˜€์„๊นŒ
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in the 1990s?" Dan:ย 
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?" ๋Œ„:
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It was. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
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This is a wonderful book to read, Digitalย  Minimalism. It confirmed everything that Iย ย 
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๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ์ฆ˜์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฝ๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ์ฑ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
93:49
suspected or that I thought about, especiallyย  about phones, but about media in general.ย 
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์˜์‹ฌํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ, ํŠนํžˆ ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”์™€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Dan: Technology.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ธฐ์ˆ .
93:56
Vanessa: But it gave a betterย ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
93:58
plan for what to do because you can't justย  cut out YouTube from your life. I need-ย 
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์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ YouTube๋ฅผ ๋บ„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค-
94:04
Dan: I don't know about that.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:05
Vanessa: You can't cut out Vanessa's videos. When I needย ย 
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Vanessa: Vanessa์˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ž˜๋ผ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
94:07
to, for example, do something with the garden,ย  what do I do when I don't know? I Google it. Iย ย 
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์ •์›์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ, ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ตฌ๊ธ€. ์ €๋Š”
94:13
watch a YouTube video. It's very useful in manyย  ways, say for education or even for entertainment,ย ย 
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YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ต์œก์ด๋‚˜ ์—”ํ„ฐํ…Œ์ธ๋จผํŠธ ๋“ฑ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์šฉ
94:19
but this book helps you to have a good plan soย  that you are the one in control of your media use.ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ์ฑ…์€ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ์„ ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ข‹์€ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์„ธ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
94:26
It's not just social media. It could be watchingย  the news all the time. It could be listening toย ย 
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์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ๋ฟ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‰ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
94:32
podcasts all the time, whatever it is. I feelย  like this book helped me to create a betterย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ํ•ญ์ƒ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ฑ…์ด ๋‚˜
94:37
plan for myself so that I felt more in control.ย  So I highly recommend this book because I feelย ย 
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์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์„ธ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์–ด ๋” ์ž˜ ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ ๊ทน ์ถ”์ฒœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:43
like it's ubiquitous that everyone, especially ifย  you're watching this on YouTube in some way ...ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ํŠนํžˆ YouTube์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด...
94:50
Dan: Struggles.ย 
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Dan: Struggles.
94:51
Vanessa: ... uses technology more than they would like.ย 
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Vanessa: ... ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:54
Dan: Yeah.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค.
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Vanessa: And technology's not a bad thing.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:57
Dan: It's a modern problem.ย 
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94:57
Vanessa: Yeah. It's just something that can easilyย ย 
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Dan: ํ˜„๋Œ€์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ๋„ค. ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ
94:59
get out of hand, which is a great expression. Dan:ย 
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์†์„ ๋—„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”, ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
95:02
So do you have any fiction books though? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์†Œ์„ค์ฑ…์€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? Vanessa:
95:04
Oh yes. But that is ... Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด... ๋Œ„:
95:05
Recommendations? Vanessa:ย 
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์ถ”์ฒœ? Vanessa:
95:06
... a whole nother rabbit hole. Dan:ย 
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... ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ† ๋ผ ๊ตด. ๋Œ„:
95:07
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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I would recommend if you want to read- Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
์ฝ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ถŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค- Dan:
95:09
We didn't mention fiction. Vanessa:ย 
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์†Œ์„ค์€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
95:10
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Dan:
95:11
You got to say one thing at least. Vanessa:ย 
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์ ์–ด๋„ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
95:12
Well, I do recommend watching my videosย  about fiction book recommendations.ย 
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์Œ, ์†Œ์„ค์ฑ… ์ถ”์ฒœ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:17
Dan: She's got a whole videoย ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „์ฒด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
95:18
about it right here. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
95:19
I have four videos. Dan:ย 
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๋™์˜์ƒ์ด 4๊ฐœ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
95:20
Or is it here? Vanessa:ย 
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95:20
Three videos I think so far about bookย  recommendations. If you would like toย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? Vanessa:
์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ถ”์ฒœ ๋„์„œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ์„ธ ๊ฐœ์˜ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ฏธ๊ตญ
95:26
watch my video about books to learn aboutย  America. So they're American books about Americanย ย 
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์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฑ…์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ฑ…
95:32
culture or they're books that are popularย  about the US. There's books I mentioned aboutย ย 
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์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ธ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฑ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ดˆ๊ธ‰ ์˜์–ด ์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์ฑ…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
95:39
beginner English books. If you've never read aย  book in English before I made a video about those.ย ย 
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. ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ์ฑ…์„ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ์ฝ์–ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:44
Nonfiction books, I think I did an advancedย  book video as well. There are a lot. So Iย ย 
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๋…ผํ”ฝ์…˜ ์ฑ…, ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ฑ… ์˜์ƒ๋„ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š”
95:49
will put those links in the description. Pleaseย  dive into that if you're interested in reading.ย ย 
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๊ทธ ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋„ฃ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
95:53
It's something I'm passionate about, soย  I'm always happy to share more about it.ย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ด์ •์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ„์•ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:57
And I'm glad this last question was somethingย  that is so exciting for me. Yes. Well,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์–ด์„œ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ. ์Œ,
96:03
thank you so much everyone forย  joining us today for this very,ย ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜
96:07
very long conversation. Dan:ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธด ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
96:09
Yes. We hope you enjoyed it. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
96:10
Yes. I hope that you enjoyed it. I hope that youย  can dive into it a little bit deeper if you wouldย ย 
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๋„ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ MP3๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ํŒŒ๊ณ ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
96:15
like to download the free MP3. I mean not MP3,ย  PDF. It's been a long morning making this video.ย ย 
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. MP3, PDF๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธด ์•„์นจ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:24
If you would like to download the free PDFย  worksheet for this video, there is a link inย ย 
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์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋งํฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
96:28
the description. You'll get access to all of theย  questions, some of the key sentences that we said,ย ย 
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. ๋ชจ๋“  ์งˆ๋ฌธ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋ฌธ์žฅ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€์— ์•ก์„ธ์Šคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:34
and if all goes well, next week I will be making aย  video specifically focusing on some key vocabularyย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์–ดํœ˜์— ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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from this video. We'll expand. I'll be explaining- Dan:ย 
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. ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค- ๋Œ„:
96:45
Dive into our ramblings. Vanessa:ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์žฅํ™ฉํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์— ๋น ์ ธ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
96:46
Yes. Explaining some of the key expressions thatย  we talked about in this video. Not all of them,ย ย 
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๋„ค. ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์—์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ฃผ์š” ํ‘œํ˜„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ „๋ถ€๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
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but the ones that I deem the most important.ย  So stay tuned next week. You can download theย ย 
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ๋„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
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PDF today and then join me next week to dive intoย  the vocabulary a little deeper. Well, thanks Dan.ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜ PDF๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์–ดํœ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ ๋Œ„.
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Dan: You're welcome.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”.
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Vanessa: This has been a journey this morning.ย 
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Vanessa: ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ์˜ ์—ฌ์ •์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Dan: Many questions.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Vanessa: Many questions.ย 
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Dan: Many answers. Did we solve the meaning of life?ย 
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Vanessa: ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋Œ„: ๋‹ต๋ณ€์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ถ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ํ’€์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
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Vanessa: Oh, that's aย ย 
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Vanessa: ์˜ค,
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good question. Let us know. Do you think we solvedย  the meaning of life? What is the meaning of life?ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋„ค์š”. ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ถ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ํ’€์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š” ? ์‚ถ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€?
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Dan: I think we did as best we could.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
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Vanessa: If you made it to the end of this video,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ์ด ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ณด์…จ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
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I would like to give you a little ... Dan:ย 
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์ž‘์€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
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High five. Vanessa:ย 
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ํ•˜์ดํŒŒ์ด๋ธŒ. Vanessa:
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A high five, and also a little surprise. Dan:ย 
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ํ•˜์ดํŒŒ์ด๋ธŒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์„œํ”„๋ผ์ด์ฆˆ. ๋Œ„:
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Oh. Vanessa:ย 
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์˜ค. Vanessa:
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If you made it to the end of this videoย  in the comments, I want you to writeย ย 
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์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ ๋๊นŒ์ง€ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
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blue water bottle. And when I see that in theย  comments, I'll know you finished this videoย ย 
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ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰ ๋ฌผ๋ณ‘์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ ์–ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ํŒŒ๋ž€ ๋ฌผ๋ณ‘์„ ์ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋๋ƒˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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because you wrote blue water bottle. Dan:ย 
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. Dan:
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You saw the blue water bottle. Vanessa:ย 
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ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰ ๋ฌผ๋ณ‘์„ ๋ณด์…จ๊ตฐ์š”. Vanessa:
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Oh, it's here. Okay. Well that's our littleย  secret nugget at the end of this video. Thankย ย 
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์˜ค, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๋น„๋ฐ€ ๋ฉ์–ด๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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you so much for joining us. And I will see youย  again next Friday for a new lesson here on myย ย 
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์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์— ์ œ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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YouTube channel. Bye. Dan:ย 
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. ์•ˆ๋…•. ๋Œ„:
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Bye. Vanessa:ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•. Vanessa:
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The next step is to download theย  free PDF worksheet for this lesson.ย ย 
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๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ์ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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With this free PDF, you will master today's lessonย  and never forget what you have learned. You can beย ย 
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์ด ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋งˆ์Šคํ„ฐ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ์šด ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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a confident English speaker. Don'tย  forget to subscribe to my YouTubeย ย 
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์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ๊ตฌ์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ฃผ ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ œ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์„ ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”
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channel for a free Englishย  lesson every Friday. Bye!
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. ์•ˆ๋…•!
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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