Advanced English Conversation Lesson

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Speak English With Vanessa


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Vanessa: Today, I have something  
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super special to share with you. I'm going to  share with you a real English conversation.  
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Do you remember listening to the stories your  grandparents used to tell about when they were  
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younger? It seemed like a different world. They  seemed like different people altogether. It was  
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fascinating. Well, today you'll meet David who's  passionate about storytelling, especially about  
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his very adventurous teenage years. I'm sure you have things that you're  
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passionate about as well, so it's a good chance to  listen to our conversation and practice speaking  
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about something you are passionate about too. Hi, I'm Vanessa from SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com,  
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and here I will help you learn real American  English conversation. In this lesson,  
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you're going to meet David. We'll have  a conversation about his teenage years,  
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and then after that you will see my husband,  Dan and I break down some important vocabulary  
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expressions that David used so that you can use  them in your personal conversations as well. 
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After the vocabulary lesson, you will hear  a phrasal verb lesson where you will focus  
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on an important phrasal verb that you heard  in the conversation with David. And finally,  
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after that phrasal verb lesson, we will focus on  pronunciation so that you can speak clearly and  
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confidently and you can express yourself  and tell stories like David. To help you  
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remember everything that you are about to  learn in this special lesson, like always,  
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I've created a free PDF worksheet. It will include  every vocabulary word, those definitions, sample  
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sentences, phrasal verbs, all of the ideas, and  pronunciation points so that you can master this  
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and use it yourself when you speak in English.  You can click on the link in the description  
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to download the free PDF worksheet today. This lesson with David is a short sample of my  
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the Fearless Fluency Club can really help you to  level up your English skills. The course uses the  
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conversation breakdown method, which will help you  to learn and use real English expressions, phrasal  
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verbs, pronunciation, and have the confidence  to bring them into your own conversations. 
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This video is just a short sample. It's only  25% of a full lesson, and you get five full  
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lessons when you join the course, but I would  love to share this sample with you because I  
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know you're going to love what David has to  say. A little note before we get started,  
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David is featured in the advanced level of the  Fearless Fluency Club. So if he speaks a little  
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bit quickly or it's difficult to understand  him, I recommend clicking CC so that you can  
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view the full subtitles for this entire lesson.  Of course, you're welcome to watch it again and  
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again, and I'm sure after watching it several  times, it will feel more comfortable for you. 
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All right, let's test out the conversation  breakdown method with David. Let's watch.  
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Hi everyone. I'm here with David, and  we're going to be chatting about your life. 
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David: Hi everybody. 
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Vanessa: So you've had a lot of interesting  
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experiences that have happened to you throughout  the ages, but I want to ask you, first of all,  
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before all of that happened, where were you in  life that you decided, "I'm going to do something  
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new." And you mentioned go to Florida. David: 
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I was living in New Jersey, which  is where I'm originally from, and  
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I was in a rock and roll band, singing in a rock  and roll band in the early seventies. This was in  
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the early seventies. And the band broke up and I  had a Chevy van, which was customized and ready to  
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live in, and a pocket full of money at that point,  just from the band and said to a couple buddies of  
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mine, "Hey, let's go to Florida." Vanessa: 
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Why not? David: 
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And so we packed the van  up and we went to Florida.  
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Yeah, I'd always wanted to go. I can remember  when I was a kid, going to visit my aunt and  
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uncle and I would go down there. It was kind  of like a magical place for me. Oh yeah. 
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Vanessa: Oh, did they live near where you ended up going? 
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David: They lived in Fort Lauderdale. And  
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back then it was not like it is now. Vanessa: 
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I bet. David: 
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It was small. Vanessa: 
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A lot has changed in Florida since the '70s. David: 
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Especially in Fort Lauderdale. Fort  Lauderdale has gotten gigantic. 
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Vanessa: I bet. 
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David: Just keep going west and west and west,  
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and they turned the cow fields into houses and  shopping centers. But in those days, this was  
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in the sixties and we used to go down and I said,  oh, there's this palm trees and manatees and all  
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that magical stuff. And the ocean. Of  course we had the ocean in New Jersey but- 
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Vanessa: It's not Florida. 
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David: No, it's not Florida. And so I  
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went north. We went to Florida. Vanessa: 
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With your buddies in your Chevy. David: 
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In my Chevy van, that's right. Vanessa: 
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Nice. And where did you guys end up in Florida? David: 
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Well, we went to Miami because we had a  friend there, and when we got to Miami,  
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he said, "Well, I'm going to Key West for the New  Year's Eve celebration. You guys want to go?" And  
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so we said, well, sure. Vanessa: 
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Why not? David: 
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I mean, no, we're young. I was 23, something  like that, 24. So we followed him down there and  
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there was an area ... and we went to Key West. Vanessa: 
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Okay. That's about as far as you can get. David: 
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That's as far as you can  go unless you're in a boat. 
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Vanessa: Especially considering  
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Miami is really far from everywhere else in  the US and then Key West. That's even further. 
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David: Yeah. Well,  
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you got to get there. There's a chain of islands  to call them Keys, and each one has its own unique  
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culture, I guess you could say. Each one, you  go down Largo and on and on have some of them  
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are real tiny. They're not even really a town or  anything in them. You just kind of cross a bridge,  
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go over onto the Key and to the next one. Vanessa: 
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To the next one. David: 
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And then some of the bridges are super long over  the ocean. Very beautiful. It's oceans. Anyway,  
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so we got the Key West, and we wanted to set  up somewhere to camp. So we asked around to the  
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locals and they said, "Oh yeah, there's a piece  of property, a piece of land. It's undeveloped.  
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Just take this dirt road, go down this road, and  take a dirt road and go into the woods there."  
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So we went there. Vanessa: 
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This wasn't a campground, it's just land. David: 
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No, it was land. It was just land. Vanessa: 
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Nice. David: 
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This land had originally ... It was  going to be developed and the EPA,  
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and they had started developing it. So there was  roads that went back in there, but there was also  
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a lot of wilds still in there. Mangrove swamps and  woods and so on. Because the EPA came in and said,  
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no, this is going to be protected. It's the only  piece left in Key West that's like this, and we're  
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going to protect this property, so you can't build  here. So consequently, there it was. So anyway. 
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Vanessa: Good for you. Perfect for camping. 
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David: So we set up and we were there.  
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We put up our tent. I see. I had my van. I had  the luxury. The luxury quarters. They had a van.  
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They had a tent. So shortly after we got set up,  probably that same day, if I remember correctly,  
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the police came. They came by, a police  officer came and we said, "Is this okay?  
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Can we camp here? Because we were told that  this was okay to do this." And he said, "Well,  
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I won't care." He said, "I don't care." He said,  "But other cops might chase you." So he said,  
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"My advice would be to scour this piece of  property." This is a police officer telling  
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us this and find a place to hide the tent, find a  place to hide the tent. So that's exactly what we  
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did. We went out on a expedition on this property. Vanessa: 
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Nice. David: 
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And we walked all around. We were talking, I  don't know, it wasn't a huge piece of ... I mean,  
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a couple hundred acres. Vanessa: 
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That's nice. That's good. David: 
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Good. You know what I'm saying? Vanessa: 
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You can hide in that. David: 
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And we found the nicest, most dense jungle that  we could find, and we set up a home site there.  
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You know what I'm saying? Vanessa: 
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And was the hidden spot. David: 
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And there it was. They had these giant  hibiscus bushes that would grow in Florida.  
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They're wild. I don't know if hibiscus. Vanessa: 
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Yeah, it's like that kind of red flower. David: 
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It's a cultivated flower. And they have the right,  but they have them wild in Florida and they grow  
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gigantic, and they grow the red flowers. And  that's which is where they began. That was the  
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origin of that. And so we took a couple machetes,  and we hollowed out the inside of that bush  
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so that I could pull my silver van into that  bush and then pull from the stuff we cut,  
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we got vines and we lashed them together and  we made a door that went across the back end  
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of this thing, and I would pull my van in and pull  a door across, and then I would be totally hidden. 
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Vanessa: You made a bat cave out of  
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hibiscus. That's amazing. David: 
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Yes. And hibiscus bat cave. Vanessa: 
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That's ingenious. David: 
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Perfect. Yeah, because the property was right  behind the Key West International Airport,  
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so we could see planes taking off all  the time. So we had to just kind of be- 
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Vanessa: On the sly. 
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David: Well, we were low-key, but I mean,  
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actually, we were high key, but we had- Vanessa: 
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Drugs are not short supply. David: 
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No. Well, back then, yeah. Vanessa: 
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Sure. So you guys camped there.  And how did it grow from there? 
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David: Well,  
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we set up the tent and we cleared the area.  So there was an area that we could clear.  
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Like I said about the van, and so we had that done  and then we cut a path, and what we did was we cut  
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the path with switchbacks so that normal people,  especially at night, couldn't find their way into  
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the campsite. Vanessa: 
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So how did you enjoy that sample conversation with  David? He's a very interesting guy, but maybe it  
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was a little fast or tricky to understand. Well,  I'd love to help you understand some important  
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expressions that he used. Next up, you are going  to see a vocabulary lesson where my husband,  
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Dan and I break down some important expressions  that you heard in that short clip of conversation.  
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This will help you to learn the most important  words and focus on them so that you can use them.  
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Let's watch. Dan: 
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Welcome to the Fearless Fluency Club. Vanessa: 
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Welcome to the Fearless Fluency Club.  Vocabulary lesson. Today, Dan and I, my husband. 
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Dan: Hello. 
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Vanessa: We're going to be talking  
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about some important vocabulary expressions that  you heard in the conversation with David. So we're  
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going to be explaining them. Dan's going to  be giving some other opinions, other samples,  
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and it's also a chance to hear a conversation  between us about each of these expressions. So  
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I hope that it will help you to remember them and  just expand your English vocabulary. Are you ready  
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to get started? Dan: 
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I'm ready. Vanessa: 
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Let's do it. The first expression that we're going  to talk about is actually two expressions. They're  
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pretty much the same thing. So we thought we  would combine them and they are back then and  
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back in those days. Dan: 
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Back in those days. Vanessa: 
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So this is used to talk about sometime in the  past, but it's usually used when a time in the  
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past is different than the present. So maybe the  lifestyle was different or your experiences were  
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different. So you're kind of comparing back  then and now or back in those days and now. 
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Dan: Yes. And it has to be part of  
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your experience. So usually you would use this if  you were telling a story. For example, David was  
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telling Vanessa the story of his very interesting  past. So he had the opportunity to say back then  
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or back in those days quite a bit because he  was talking about a time that was very different  
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than today. Back then, we hardly wore shoes.  We just walked around barefoot all the time. 
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Vanessa: Yeah, I think his life was very different than it  
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is now. So the only real distinction between these  two expressions is that in a business situation,  
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especially a formal business situation where  you're giving a presentation or you're just doing  
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something that's extremely formal, you would not  use that second expression: back in those days.  
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You could definitely say back then, our company  sold this much of our product. That's fine,  
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you can say it back then, but back in those days,  it's just a little more casual. So I recommend not  
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using it in those extremely foremost situations,  but both of these are beautiful to use. 
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So I'm curious when you were a child, was there  anything that that you did back then that you  
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don't do nowadays? Dan: 
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Well, back in those days, we didn't have  smartphones. We just read books. Books and books.  
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Okay, books. It was TV. Well, for me, it was  like we had an old 386 computer. Look up a 386. 
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Vanessa: Oh, I don't even know what that is. 
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Dan: And my dad taught me how  
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to get on there and try to play some games. I was  always into games, but my parents wouldn't buy me  
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an Nintendo back then, so. Vanessa: 
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Yeah. You also played outside a lot. Dan: 
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Back then we played outside. Vanessa: 
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Yeah. Dan: 
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All the time, that's true. Vanessa: 
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I would say that childhood back then is  much different than childhood nowadays.  
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And I think that there is a movement though,  especially people our age who are having kids- 
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Dan: We're part of that movement. 
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Vanessa: Who wants their kids to have a more  
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outdoors, natural- Dan: 
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Natural. Vanessa: 
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Kind of carefree childhood away from  screens, not eliminating screens completely,  
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but just kind of having a similar  childhood to the type of childhood  
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that we had. So back then it was different,  but now those times are kind of coming back. 
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Dan: I'm saying even further back  
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then. I'm talking about my parents' childhood.  That's the kind of childhood I want for my boy. 
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Vanessa: Oh yeah. 
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Dan: My boys rather. 
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Vanessa: Do you think that's possible? 
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Dan: No, probably not. 
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Vanessa: I think that people's ideas about freedom of  
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movement and letting your kids just roam around  the whole city, that's not quite acceptable. 
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Dan: Not as many free-range kids anymore. 
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Vanessa: You probably need  
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to live out in the country pretty far and have  a lot of space to be able to do that, but that's  
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just a cultural thing. All right, let's go on and  watch the clip from the original conversation with  
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David so that you can see how this expression  was used. And because there were two, you're  
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going to see two clips so that you can see how  both of these expressions were used. Let's watch. 
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David: They lived in Fort Lauderdale and  
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back then it was not like it is now. Vanessa: 
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I bet. David: 
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It was a small and back then it was not  like it is now. Back then it was not like  
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it is now. Back in those days, there wasn't  too many of us that wore shoes anyway, but- 
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Vanessa: To age his own, if he wants to do that. 
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David: Back in those days, there wasn't too many  
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of us at wore shoes. Anyway, back in those days,  there wasn't too many of us at wore shoes anyway. 
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Dan: The next expression is off we go or we are off,  
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and this is just a casual way to say we're leaving  somewhere, but usually it kind of means it's  
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exciting or maybe it's spontaneous. Vanessa: 
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You're going on an adventure. Dan: 
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Or it might just be the start of something very  exciting. So maybe you're about to go on a trip  
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to Florida, for example. Vanessa: 
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Like David. Dan: 
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If you get into the car and you're all  excited, you could say, "and we're off"  
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or "off we go." And it's just a casual way to  say, we're going and this is going to be fun. 
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Vanessa: You can even add a little bit more  
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to the end of that sentence and say, if someone  asks, Hey, where are you going? You could say,  
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we are off to Florida. Or you could just say, if  your friends are also going with you, all right,  
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we are off. Let's go. And it just means you are  going somewhere. It kind of does imply this is  
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exciting, this is fun. Dan: 
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But it could also kind of mean there's some  spontaneousness or a lack of organization.  
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So if you ask, where's Vanessa? And  you could say she's off at Walmart. 
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Vanessa: Walmart. 
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Dan: That would  
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mean that she's shopping. Yes, but maybe she's  taking a long time or she's looking at a lot  
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of things. So it kind of has that vibe to it.  But I'd say that's kind of a secondary meaning. 
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Vanessa: Kind of implies that you're lost out there.  
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Don't really know which direction they're going. Dan: 
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At Walmart. Vanessa: 
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Walmart's a little bit of a strange example,  but usually we do use this for going on trips.  
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So if you're about to go to New York City on an  amazing adventure, you're about to go there for a  
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couple weeks, you could say, or even a couple  days, I don't know. You could just say, oh,  
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and I'm off to New York. All right. Dan: 
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Do you think you would actually say "We're  off to Walmart?" You could just say it. 
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Vanessa: If you want to make it feel exciting.  
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Sometimes we do this for our toddler. Dan: 
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We're off. Vanessa: 
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If we're just doing something that's normal going  to the grocery store, you kind of make it seem  
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more exciting so that he gets excited, like, oh,  all right, we are off to the grocery store. Maybe  
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we'll find some blueberries, maybe we'll see some  samples and get to eat them. You can make it a  
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little more exciting so that your kids want to do  boring things, so you could use this. It kind of  
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implies it. It's an adventure. Dan: 
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Sure. Vanessa: 
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All right, let's watch the clips.  You can see how to use this. 
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David: No, it's not Florida. So I  
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went north. We went to Florida. Vanessa: 
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With your buddies in your Chevy. David: 
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In my Chevy van. And so I went north. We went to  Florida, and so I went north. We went to Florida. 
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Vanessa: The next expression  
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is "and so on." Dan: 
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And so on and so forth. Vanessa: 
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And so forth, you're right. So are the main  expression that you heard in the conversation  
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with David was "and so on." And this just means  et cetera. You're kind of continuing a list of  
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things, but you don't want to list everything.  So you say, well, and so on. So you're just kind  
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of mentally continuing that idea. What do you  think or how do you think you would use this? 
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Dan: Yeah, I think I would normally use and so on,  
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and sometimes we use this together back to back  and so on and so forth, especially if it's kind  
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of a process. Maybe you are explaining how to  cook something and you're talking about how to  
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roll the dough, and if at some point it becomes a  little bit more obvious what the next steps are,  
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then you could say and so on and so forth.  Or if something doesn't matter that much how  
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you're doing it. Like, "You don't have to roll the  dough this specific way. You could do it this way  
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or that way." So if there's additional ways you  could do something, you can say and so on and so  
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forth or and so forth. Vanessa: 
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I think you could apply this like you said, to  some kind of action that is obvious. If you're  
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gardening and you have some ... Like, we have some  raised garden beds, and if you have four raised  
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garden beds, you're going to do the same thing  to each one. You're going to add the compost,  
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you're going to add some soil, you're going  to add some things. So you could explain,  
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okay, this is what you need to do and put this  in here. And then for the other beds, you do  
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the same thing. Or you could say, so you add the  compost, you mix it up and so on. And you're kind  
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of implying that they already understand what  they should do next. It's going to be obvious.  
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So you just say and so on. I feel like we are  not as likely to say and so forth by itself. 
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Dan: Yeah, that's a little more  
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formal sounding, I think. Vanessa: 
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Yeah, we're more likely to just say and  so on sometimes and so on and so forth. 
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Dan: Together. 
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Vanessa: But a little less likely to just say and so forth  
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by itself. You might hear that, but it's a little  bit less common. It sounds a little formal, and  
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you can use both of these in business situations,  but I think that you're more likely to hear "and  
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so on." All right, let's watch the original  clips that you can see how "and so on" is used. 
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David: But there was also a lot of wild still in there.  
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Mangrove swamps and woods and so on. Mangrove,  swamps and woods and so on. Mangrove swamps and  
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woods, and so on. Dan: 
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The next expression is to scour, and this means  to search thoroughly for something or it means  
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to clean very thoroughly. So for example, for  cleaning, you scour a dirty pan in the sink,  
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you're rubbing it. But I think this is more  commonly used for searching for something if  
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you've lost something. For example, I was watching  a hockey game the other day as I want to do,  
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and somebody lost a contact onto the ice, and this  was the worst situation because as a contact is  
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clear and ice is white. So all of the players  were on their hands and knees scouring the ice  
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for the content. Vanessa: 
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Did they find it? Dan: 
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I don't remember, actually. Vanessa: 
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This seems kind of a comical situation. Dan: 
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I think it's all a replay of it. Vanessa: 
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Because it seems almost like an impossible test. Dan: 
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I know. I don't know why they would track it. Vanessa: 
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So you can use scour to talk about looking  absolutely everywhere, which is the word  
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thoroughly for something. So if you are in a store  and your child runs away, well, you're going to  
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scour the store until you find your child. Dan: 
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You're going to scour the store. Vanessa: 
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You're not going to give up and  just leave the store. Of course,  
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you're going to scour the store and you're going  to ask everyone, "Hey, help me scour the store.  
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I need to find my child." So this is just to  look really thoroughly. Like Dan mentioned,  
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you might use this for cleaning something really  thoroughly, but it does kind of imply like you're  
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scraping really hard on a pan's really crusty  and dirty. And I think that this situation, we  
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come across less in life than- Dan: 
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I would probably say scrub first. Vanessa: 
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Scrub the pan. Yeah, scrub the pan really  hard, but it just also means scour the pan.  
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So you could use it in that situation, but I  think we are more likely to search really hard  
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for something in our daily lives. I scoured  the dictionary to find the right word to use,  
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or lots of ways we can use this. Dan: 
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I scoured the internet for Vanessa's course. Vanessa: 
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Oh, and you found it. Here you are. Well, let's  watch the clips that you can see how the word a  
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scour was used in the original conversation. David: 
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My advice would be to scour this piece  of property. This is a police officer  
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telling us this, and find a place to hide  the tent, find a place to hide the tent. 
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My advice would be to scour this piece  of property. My advice would be to  
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scour this piece of property. Vanessa: 
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The next expression is to hollow out. And  technically this is a phrasal verb. We've  
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got a nice verb to hollow and then a preposition  out. But we wanted to include it in a vocabulary  
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lesson. So when you hollow out something, let's  first talk about the word hollow. If something is  
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hollow, what does that mean? Dan: 
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That means it's empty on the inside. Vanessa: 
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So we can imagine a log. When a tree falls  down and then it decays, the inside of the log  
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becomes hollow. Dan: 
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It might become hollow, if it's a hollow log. Vanessa: 
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If it's a hollow log. So the action to  hollow out something is just the act of  
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taking out the inside. Dan: 
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You're making it hollow yourself. Vanessa: 
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You're taking out the inside so you can hollow out  something. You can also feel hollowed out. So how  
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would you use this expression to hollow out? Dan: 
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Yeah, so I think we use it a lot physically, but  it is such a specific word that I feel like we  
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use it if we're making something, so hollow out,  since I have a child, play-doh comes to my mind.  
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So you're going to turn it into a ball or a bowl.  You can even say a bowl is hollowed out. So it's  
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usually, if you're making something. Vanessa: 
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We do use this physically  more often than figuratively. 
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Dan: But you can also say you feel hollowed out,  
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which means that some situation or experience made  you feel empty, which is another figurative way to  
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use that word, empty. So if you feel hollowed out,  you feel like your emotions are gone. You just  
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feel kind of sad, but you don't know why or, well,  you might know why, but it's kind of a unspecified  
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negative feeling. Vanessa: 
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I think that those words often are synonyms  to say, I feel empty or I feel hollowed out.  
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If you say, "I feel hollowed out," it implies  that something else did it to you. Because when  
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you hollow out a bowl, for example, you are the  one who's doing that action. But when you say,  
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I feel hollowed out, it implies that some person  or some experience made you feel that way. 
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Dan: Scooped out your happiness. 
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Vanessa: So if you  
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broke up with your boyfriend, then you could  say, I feel so hollowed out after we broke up. 
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Dan: That he left me hollowed out. 
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Vanessa: That he kind of took away your heart,  
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scooped out your insides, and now you feel empty  and lost. So it just kind of has that a little bit  
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more of an implication there. All right, let's  watch the clips. You can see how this was used. 
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David: So we took a machete,  
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couple machetes, and we hollowed out the inside  of that bush. And we hollowed out the inside of  
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that bush. Dan: 
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The next expression is ingenious, and  this just means very clever, brilliant,  
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smart. And we usually don't say this  about ourselves. It's not very humble. 
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David: It's not humble. 
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Dan: We often  
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don't even say this about other people because I  think it's reserved for extremely special people. 
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Vanessa: Or ideas, not people. 
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Dan: Or ideas.  
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I think if you're talking with somebody and maybe  they write something or they build something that  
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you think is really smart or clever, then you  could say, wow, that's ingenious. Look at all  
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the ways this works. Or look how clever this  writing is. It's really funny in a clever way. 
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Vanessa: Instead of, wow, you are ingenious. You were  
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saying that thing that you created is ingenious. Dan: 
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Right. But if you use it for a person, again,  I think we reserve that for "Albert Einstein  
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was ingenious." Vanessa: 
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So in the conversation with David, I said kind  of a funny sentence, but he was telling me about  
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how they created their camp and that they hid  their tents and they were trying to be really  
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secretive and that they made a cave out of, he  said like a hibiscus plant. And I don't know,  
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he didn't come from a natural background. He  just came from New Jersey and he'd never really  
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lived in the woods before, so I thought this was  a pretty clever idea. He just came up with these  
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ideas. So I said, that's ingenious, or that  idea is ingenious using it as an adjective to  
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describe his actions or his creation, not  necessarily "David, you are ingenious." 
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Dan: I mean, one could argue maybe Vanessa  
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was being a little bit exaggerating. Vanessa: 
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Yes, we often use this in exaggerated situations, Dan: 
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But she wasn't being sarcastic. It was  just, "Wow, that's really cool." Well,  
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if you want to say more than cool,  that's ingenious, that was smart of you. 
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Vanessa: Yeah. You could use  
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this to say, "Wow, David, you're ingenious."  And it's obviously, like an exaggeration. 
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Dan: He probably would've said, "Oh,  
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I don't know about that." Vanessa: 
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Yeah, because he might be a little bored. Dan: 
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It's just he's really smart. Vanessa: 
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So we often use this just for ideas or for  extremely clever, unusually smart people who  
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are just as an exaggeration. But you might make  the other person feel a little bit uncomfortable  
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if you say, "Wow, Dan, you are ingenious." Dan: 
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Yeah. You'd be like, "Oh, thank you." Vanessa: 
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Thank you. But yeah, not really, because  that's extremely unusual to use for any  
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person. All right, let's watch the clips  that you can see how I used ingenious. 
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A bat cave out of hibiscus. David: 
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Yes. Vanessa: 
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That's amazing. David: 
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A hibiscus bat cave. Vanessa: 
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That is ingenious. David: 
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Perfect. Vanessa: 
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That is ingenious. David: 
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Perfect. Vanessa: 
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How did you enjoy that sample vocabulary lesson?  Now it's time to move on to the grammar lesson,  
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phrasal verbs. In this lesson, we will focus  on one specific phrasal verb that is used in  
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daily life, and I want you to be able to use  it too. In the full Fearless Fluency Club,  
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phrasal verb lesson. I also integrate clips from  movies, TV shows, and songs so that you can get  
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more context. But unfortunately, here on YouTube,  I cannot put those in my video because YouTube  
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will ban my video, but I'm going to cut them out  here on YouTube. You'll have to join the course  
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to get all of the context. All right, let's get  started with this phrasal verb lesson. The first  
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phrasal verb is to come by. Dan: 
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Oh, may I come by this evening? Vanessa: 
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And there are two leanings for to come by. This  is the first one that we're going to talk about,  
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which is simply to go to someone's house. And it  usually is unexpected or it's just arriving or  
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visiting someone's house. Dan: 
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Yeah, it's usually not a very planned thing or  at a very specific time, and it's not necessarily  
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somebody's house. You might use this at work if  somebody's picking up something that doesn't have  
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a very specific time. So when I worked at French  Broad Chocolates, people would come by and pick  
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up their cakes. So they didn't usually say,  come by at three o'clock. They usually said,  
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"Come by sometime this afternoon," which gave  it a broader range of time. You could come by  
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and pick up your cake. Vanessa: 
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And would there be a difference if you  had said, come and pick up the cake or  
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come by and pick up the cake? Would there  be a difference in your mind with this? 
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Dan: Yeah. Come by is more casual,  
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it's more open. If you say, come and pick  up your cake, it sounds like a command. 
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Vanessa: A little more direct. I feel like sometimes  
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phrasal verbs are simply just to be a little  bit more casual. So you could choose to say,  
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come and pick up your cake at 3:00 PM, or you  could say, come by in the afternoon and pick up  
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your cake. It's just a subtle difference,  but really it's just to be more casual. 
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Dan: It has the feeling  
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that you shouldn't hurry either. Even if you had a  party and it started at five o'clock, if you said,  
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"Come by around five o'clock," `if you said  something like that, it makes it feel a little  
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more like it's not a big deal if you're late. Vanessa: 
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Yeah. I think in the US, often when we meet  someone new, especially in the neighborhood, we  
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often say, Hey, yeah, come by whenever you want. Dan: 
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Or Feel free to come by. Vanessa: 
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Feel free to come by whenever you want. And  that just means come to our house and visit,  
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knock on the door and say, hi. Oh, I was just  passing by. And then go. It doesn't have to be  
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a long visit. Oftentimes people don't do this,  but we say this as kind of a open-ended welcome.  
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I think in the US it's pretty unusual for people  to just come by unannounced. Usually, we feel a  
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little bit uncomfortable about that. Dan: 
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Maybe sometimes next door neighbors. You have to  be a very close neighbor to really come by just  
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whenever you feel like. Vanessa: 
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Yeah, you don't want to  inconvenience other people. 
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Dan: Sure. 
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Vanessa: So maybe in your culture, it's common for friends  
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and family to just come by whenever they want. Dan: 
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Feel free whenever. Even family  doesn't come by whenever they want to. 
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Vanessa: Yeah. I think they definitely  
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would text or message first. Dan: 
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And most families in America, I don't know,  maybe there's some families to each his own. 
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Vanessa: Yes. To use a wonderful expression  
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we talked about earlier. All right. Let's go on  to some extra material for this first meeting  
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of to come by. In this extra material section for  the first meaning of the phrasal verb to come by,  
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we're going to take a look at four clips.  One's from the conversation with David and  
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three are from TV shows. Let's start with David. David said the police came by... and we said,  
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"Is this okay?" He was asking about permission  to camp where they were camping, and he's talking  
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about the police simply casually visiting his camp  area. The police came by, they didn't run in and  
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raid with their guns and yelling and a big to-do.  No. Instead, they just came by casually visited,  
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and David and his friend said, "Hey, is this okay?  Can we camp here?" So this is the first clip that  
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you're going to see from the phrasal verb come by. David: 
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The police came by, a police officer  came and we said, "Is this okay? Can  
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we camp here?" Because the police came,  they came by and we said, "Is this okay?" 
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Vanessa: The second meaning for the  
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phrasal verb to come by is to get something or to  find something. And in the situation, it's used a  
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little bit less commonly, I feel like. But you'll  definitely hear this. So if I said, wow, I came by  
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this suitcase with a million dollars in it. Dan: 
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Whoa. Vanessa: 
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Wow. What would that mean to you? Dan: 
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That would mean that you just randomly found  this suitcase. And I think that's kind of the  
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feeling of come by in this sense. It has to be a  chance occurrence. And some people might ask you,  
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even if it's not a chance occurrence, it kind of  makes it sound like it is. So somebody might say  
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to Vanessa, how did you come by those earrings,  for example? Oh, if they really like her earrings  
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and they don't know where she got them, they'll  say it like that to make it sound like, oh,  
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that must be a really good find. Vanessa: 
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Yeah, I had to search for it for a while, or it  was kind of a precious thing to find. I think we  
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often use this for things that are surprise finds  or also something maybe that's difficult to get.  
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How did you come by this great job offer? I can't  believe it. I've been looking for this job for  
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two years and you just came by the job offer on  your first day. So this is kind of talking about  
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finding it, but it has a similar idea of you're  really, it's a difficult thing to find. It's a  
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difficult thing to get, so you have to come by it. Dan: 
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And people use this relationally sometimes.  A love like ours is difficult to come by,  
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meaning it's hard to just stumble or  chance your way into a love like this. 
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Vanessa: Oh, that's so kind. So in this  
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situation, because Dan's using it in a negative  way, it's hard to come by our relationship or  
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a relationship like this, that means that it's  hard to randomly find a relationship like this.  
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You have to work at it. So the opposite  is working at something and diligently- 
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Dan: We have to go on lots and lots of dates. 
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Vanessa: It's a process, a difficult process. It's not  
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just something that falls into your lap. Dan: 
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But really, I could probably say that I came by  Vanessa. Yeah, because we met the first day of  
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college. It was a chance meeting in a way. Vanessa: 
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But I think that maintaining a  relationship for 10, 12, 13 years. 
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Dan: But when people say, come by,  
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it's not about maintaining, it's about how did  you find somebody? It's the first instance. 
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Vanessa: Yeah. So maybe it was easy to come by you,  
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but to maintain our relationship, I think those  of you who have been in relationships for long  
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periods of time, know that that takes a lot of  effort. It doesn't just spontaneously happen. 
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Dan: But I should point out though that  
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I wouldn't really say I came by Vanessa in 2005.  That doesn't sound right. You would say it in that  
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sense, in the positive sense for items or things,  not really people. It's more common to use in the  
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negative sense. It would be difficult to come by  a relationship like ours again, if we broke up,  
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for example. Vanessa: 
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Sure, sure. So find talking about coming by a  relationship or coming by something as opposed to  
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a person. Sure. Was that phrasal verb new for  you? I always want to teach you something new.  
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Remember that in the full Fearless Fluency  Club, you will learn five phrasal verbs per  
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lesson. There are five lessons, and here you  only learned one, but it's a good sample. 
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Now let's move on to the pronunciation lesson. We  are going to take an in-depth look at a sentence  
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that uses a vocabulary expression. So this will  help you remember the vocabulary expression,  
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but also be able to imitate American English  pronunciation so that you can speak clearly  
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and comfortably in conversation. Let's watch. My challenge for you is to try to speak out  
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loud as much as you can during this lesson. It's  great to hear my voice saying it naturally, but  
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it's even better if you can hear your own voice  speaking with me, repeating when I say to repeat,  
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speaking with me at the same time. And after  each sentence at the end, before we go on to  
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the next one, I'm going to be pausing so that you  can say the sentence all by yourself and really  
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use everything that you've learned. So please  be as active as possible. I believe in you. You  
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can do it. All right, let's start with the first  expression or the first sentence that we're going  
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to focus on. We're going to listen to it in the  original clip from the conversation with David.  
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Listen to it. We're going to break it down, and  then at the end, you'll listen to it again and  
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hopefully, you'll be able to understand more and  you'll be able to realize why it sounds the way it  
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does, because we've practiced it together. All right, let's watch that first clip. 
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David: They lived in Fort Lauderdale. And back  
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then it was not like it is now. It was small. And  back then it was not like it is now ...And back  
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then it was not like it is now. Vanessa: 
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You just heard the expression back then used  in the expression back then. It was not like  
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it is now. Back then it was not like it is  now. Let's break down the short sentence,  
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and I hope that you'll be able  to pronounce it as naturally as  
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possible. Let's start at the beginning. He  says, back then it was it. Do you hear "it  
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was?" There's no T sound that's clearly pronounced  here. If you've been learning with me for a while  
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in the Fearless Fluency Club, you know that this  is quite common in English. The final T in a lot  
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of words, becomes a stopped T. That means that  your tongue creates the T shape in your mouth.  
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Your tongue is at the top of your mouth, but  you don't let that final puff of air come out. 
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So when you say it, you don't say it. Instead,  it was, and this word has a lovely Z sound at the  
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end. It was. Can you say that with me? Let's  combine it with the first two words as well,  
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which is our key expression. Back then. Back then it was. Back then it was. Back  
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then it was. And then he uses the  stop T again with the word "not".  
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Not like. Your tongue is stopped at the top of  your mouth when you've tried to say that final T,  
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but you don't let that puff of air come out.  Say it with me, not like, not like, not like. 
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And for the final three words, it is now there's a  special linking that's happening. Listen carefully  
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to what that T at the end of it sounds like. It is  now. It is now. Does it sound like it is now? No,  
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instead this T is cha changing to a D sound.  This is quite typical in American English that  
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a T between two vowel sounds is going to change  to a D. And we often do this because it's simply  
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relaxed pronunciation. It makes it easier. Making  that puff of air for the tea is a little bit extra  
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work. So instead we're going to slide into a D  sound. So try to say that with me. It is. It is.  
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And the word "is" going to have another Z sound at  the end. It is. It is now. It is now. It is now. 
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All right. Do you think you can go back and  say this full sentence? We're going to talk  
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about which words are emphasized, but I want you  to remember all of those stop tees, linked Ts,  
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turn to Ds. Let's do it. Back then it was not  like it is now. We're going to be emphasizing  
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back then it was not, emphasizing the word "not,"  like it is now. So we've got kind of a three parts  
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here. The beginning, back then, not now. So let's  imagine a lovely wave. Back then it was not like  
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it is now. We're emphasizing the beginning,  the middle, and the end of this sentence. 
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Let's try to put it all together. Do you think you  can say it with me? I know you can. Let's do it.  
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Back then it was not like it is now. Back then it  was not like it is now. Whew. There's a lot going  
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on here. Let's speed it up a little bit and then  I'm going to pause so you can say it by yourself.  
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Back then it was not like it is now.  Back then it was not like it is now. 
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All right, your turn. Take a deep  breath. I'm going to pause and I  
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want you to say this all by yourself. Go ahead.  
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Great work. All right, now we're going to listen  to the original clip and I hope that you'll be  
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able to hear each of the different words that  we talked about. Also, the different linking  
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that we talked about. And it will help your  understanding and listening skills to improve  
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the more that you know about these specific  pronunciation concepts. So with this lesson,  
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yes, you're improving your pronunciation, but  you're also improving your listening skills  
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because these sentences are extremely  fast. The clip is so fast, but when you  
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break it down and you realize, oh, that's a  stop T, oh, they're linking that together,  
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you're going to be able to just understand  more. A whole world will be open. All right,  
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let's listen to the original clip. And David: 
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Back then it was not like it is now. And back  then it was not like it is now. And back then  
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it was not like it is now. Vanessa: 
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Great work. Are your pronunciation muscles warmed  up? I hope so. In the Fearless Fluency Club, along  
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even sleeping. Each model includes a special story  segment to help you remember exactly what you've  
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learned. The story is a fun one-page combination  of everything you've studied in the module.  
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Vocabulary, grammar, pronunciation. Everything's  combined in this story. You can listen to it,  
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