Advanced English Conversation: Vocabulary, Phrasal Verb, Pronunciation

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Speak English With Vanessa


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Vanessa: Hi. I'm Vanessa from SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com.
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Are you ready to hear a real English conversation? Let's get started.
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Vanessa: Today, I have something super special to share
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with you. I met an interesting woman whose family runs a salt business. Yes, salt. You're
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going to meet Carla and hear how her family started the salt business three generations
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ago. You'll also learn some differences and different types of salt and just some interesting
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insight into something that every human needs, but we don't often think about. I'm sure that
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you also have things that you're passionate about, so it's a good chance to listen to
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our conversation and try to imitate the way that we speak.
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Vanessa: Throughout this conversation, you're going
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to see subtitles down here. That's going to show some vocabulary, phrasal verbs, and important
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pronunciation that we're going to talk about after the conversation lesson, because after
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the conversation lesson with Carla, you're going to hear a vocabulary lesson between
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my husband Dan and I, where we're going to explain some important vocabulary expressions
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that you heard in the conversation with Carla. I hope that you're going to be able to remember
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these expressions a little bit better, because we're having a natural conversation about
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those expressions. Vanessa:
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Then, you'll have a grammar lesson, where we focus on some important phrasal verbs that
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you heard in the conversation with Carla. And finally, at the end, we'll have a pronunciation
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lesson where we'll focus on some important sentences that you heard in the conversation
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and how you can accurately pronounce those yourself to try to speak as naturally as possible.
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Vanessa: This is a pretty big lesson. There's a lot
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going on. We've got the conversation, vocabulary, grammar, and pronunciation. So, you can always
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click on CC, which is the subtitles, so that you can catch every word that we talk about.
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If you enjoy this lesson, I hope that you can join me in the Fearless Fluency Club,
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where you'll get a lesson set like this every month. Today, you're only going to see a little
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bit less than half of one lesson set, but each month, I send you a new lesson set, a
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full one, where you can learn about new topics, vocabulary, grammar, pronunciation, and practice
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using those conversation skills yourself. Vanessa:
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All right, let's go meet Carla. Hi, everyone! I'm here with Carla, and Carla has a quite
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interesting family business to share with us. I've got some visual aids as well, but
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I'll let you explain. What do you say you do, or what would you say your family does?
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How would you describe it? Carla:
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Sure. I am third generation in a sea salt family business.
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Vanessa: Okay.
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Carla: My grandfather, back in the '70s, was the
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first to start importing sea salt from out of the country. He brought it over in suitcases,
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and he didn't know how much to charge. He was like, "I don't know, I'll bag it up, and
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give me $5." And that's kind of set the price for the next 30 years. We just kept it there.
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Vanessa: Really?
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Carla: Yeah.
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Vanessa: So, he just thought, "Oh, people will buy
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this." That's cool. Carla:
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Yeah. Vanessa:
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Was he doing that back home, or... Carla:
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No. He is from Belgium, originally, or he was. He passed away. But yeah, he was best
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friends with Michio Kushi, who was the person that brought macrobiotics into the United
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States. Vanessa:
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Oh, okay. Carla:
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And Michio told him, "You need to bring sea salt into this country because there's going
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to be a shortage of minerals at some point, and they're going to need this." So my grandfather
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traveled all over Europe trying to find the most clean, most high mineral sea salt he
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could find, which he settled into the coast of Brittany, France, and this little town
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called Guérande. Vanessa:
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Okay. Carla:
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And they do this ancient harvesting technique that was originated by Celts.
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Vanessa: Okay. So that's where this originated, the
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name. Carla:
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Yeah, they think that it was from the Celts that originally did it, but then studies have
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shown that it dates back even further with this harvesting technique in Asia.
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Vanessa: Wow.
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Carla: Which they're always doing something before
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the rest of us. Vanessa:
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Sure. Carla:
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So instead of boiling the water, boiling to evaporate it and using up all the valuable
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wood that they needed for other things back then, they realize that they needed to create
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these ponds using these clay beds and let the sun and the wind do the evaporation for
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them. So this started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years, and it's
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still there today. Vanessa:
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Wow. It's, it's incredible that they had the thought process to say, "We need to save wood.
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Let's use what we've got." Nature, the sun. Carla:
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Right. Vanessa:
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To be able to do that, So at this point are the origins of the salt still in that area?
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Carla: So we import from all over the world, and
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we have found some really fascinating high-tech ways that they're still sustainably harvesting
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and producing all different kinds of salts with different mineral composition.
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Vanessa: So I would love to hear more about that in
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detail. Carla:
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Yeah. Vanessa:
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I want to show them the salt that you brought. Carla:
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Sure. Vanessa:
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Is this available internationally? Carla:
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It is. Vanessa:
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Okay. So maybe they've seen this. Is it mainly in Europe or could be anywhere?
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Carla: Parts of Europe. We're also in Malaysia, Australia.
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We were working on China a few years ago, but they have a lot of laws around it with
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it having to be iodized. They've lifted that since, but it's a huge investment to, as you
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can imagine, to tackle that kind of distribution. And we're still a family-owned company. We've
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never had investors. Everything has been grassroots grown.
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Vanessa: Wow, that's really amazing. So if you see
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this brand, the Celtic Sea Salt, I'll put links to all the websites.
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Carla: Okay.
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Vanessa: So you can check it out. But if you see that,
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that's the company we're talking about, and this one's the fine ground, regular kind of
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white, what you kind of recognize as salt. Carla:
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Right. Vanessa:
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But there's also other ones that you brought. Carla:
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Right, so the light gray are these in these grinders, which this is the same salt, but
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they just don't grind that for you for convenience. They didn't really have that available before
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we kind of started demanding it from our providers, saying that the Americans really want their
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shakers. They don't do the European way of grinding or pinching their salt.
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Vanessa: Oh, got you.
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Carla: So we're the ones that brought the fine ground
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here. Yeah. Vanessa:
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So that is a cultural thing. I guess it depends on what your family is used to using.
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Carla: Exactly.
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Vanessa: But just shaking it, especially at a restaurant,
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that's really common that this is more a European-type style. Got you.
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Carla: It is.
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Vanessa: It probably has some steam in Asheville, though,
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I imagine. Carla:
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Oh, yeah. Some people, they're like, "Oh, I like to pinch it, and I like to grind it
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and I like to shake it. So it's a kind of a funny little question we have at shows and
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stuff. Vanessa:
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How would you like to serve yourself? Carla:
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Right. Vanessa:
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So can you tell me a little bit about the different types of salt? And I am quite ignorant
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about that except for just hearsay that I've heard. And of course, what you see, different
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colors and whatnot. Carla:
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Yeah, I mean, salt, I mean it can be an endless topic. There's so many different kinds, everything
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from mass industrial salt that we use that you see like in the Morton shaker that has
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been highly processed and things added and removed and anti-caking agents. For our table
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salt, they originally started putting iodine into the salt to help with a goiter issue
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a long time ago, which it did help, but the iodine actually caused a discoloration to
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the salt so they had to bleach it. Vanessa:
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Oh, interesting. Carla:
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The bleaching caused it to be bitter, so they had to sweeten it. So they added dextrose,
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which caused it to be sticky so it wouldn't shake out of the jar. So they added anti-caking
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agent chemicals. Vanessa:
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One thing on top of another. Carla:
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So what we have kind of come to terms with is we've realized the salt is actually perfect
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in its own way, and yes there is an iodine deficiency which we created a seaweed seasoning
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to help with that. Vanessa:
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Oh, interesting. Carla:
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Because there was a demand people asking for us to put iodine in our salt. But because
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of all those complications, we were like, let's leave our salt alone. Keep it in its
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whole form that the body knows what to do with. And then we offered a a seaweed seasoning.
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But you'll see all different colors and all those different colors come from different
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mineral compositions coming from the different regions. We even have a super white, white
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salt from Hawaii that is super white cause it comes from 2,000 feet under the surface
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of the water at the base of a volcano. Vanessa:
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Whoa. How did someone find that? Carla:
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People know us in the industry as we kind of have figured out ways to launch these amazing
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commodities into the U.S. market, and the U.S. market's one of the hardest ones to tap
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into. Vanessa:
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Really? Carla:
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Yeah, when you're importing from other countries. Vanessa:
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Okay. Carla:
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So a lot of people write us letters and send us samples. We get dozens a month.
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Vanessa: Wow, saying, "Can you please get us the part
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of this?" Carla:
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Yes. And that was just one that somebody came to us at a trade show and said, "You've got
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to check this salt out." And it's an amazing salt. It's beautiful, and it's clean, and
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it has a great source of potassium and calcium. Vanessa:
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Okay. So I'm curious, when you say that it's great and it's clean, does that affect the
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taste of it? Carla:
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Yes. Vanessa:
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Because this term of, "Oh, it's salty. It tastes like salt."
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Carla: Right.
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Vanessa: Is there a difference?
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Carla: There is, and you'll start to notice, once
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you start to taste different salts side by side, you'll start to go, "Oh, wow, I can
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taste that this one's a little more bitter. This one's a little more like has a saline
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taste." When you taste oysters, some people go, it's just slimy. But when you become create
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a palate for it, you go, "Oh, this is more briny, or this one tastes more fresh." Or
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you start to kind of compare. Same with wine or beer or cheeses, you just start to understand
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different notes. A higher sodium content, you're going to have more of a bitter taste.
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With higher minerals such as magnesium, potassium, and calcium, you're having a little more mild
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or tastes almost like an ocean flavor. Vanessa:
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Okay. Carla:
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And it naturally enhances the flavor of your food as opposed to just making it salty.
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Vanessa: Oh, got you. So it's really going to work
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with the things that you're putting it on in a different way. I'm really curious now
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after this, to taste this side by side with what I've got at home and if I have any different
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types at home to see. Carla:
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And the key with salt tasting is you want to start off with the highest mineral content
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salt going to the highest sodium salt because once your taste buds have been triggered in
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their bitter and sodium levels, you can't taste the difference of the other things.
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So you got to kind of work your way up. I used to host salt parties in California. Yeah.
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Vanessa: Wow! I would love to go to that.
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Carla: Yeah, it was so much fun. We made cocktails
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and... Vanessa:
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Yeah, what do you do at a salt party? Carla:
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Yeah, it's a lot of drinks. Vanessa:
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Okay. You put them on the rim? Carla:
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On the rim. Vanessa:
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Okay. Carla:
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And I did a lot of like things like edamame with salt on it or fun things where you would
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need the salt on it. And then we did a salt tasting where I would show people how to kind
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of taste the different notes of salt and the textures.
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Vanessa: The education part of it.
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Carla: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
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Vanessa: Because it's not just like you said, it tastes
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salty, but it could actually bring out other flavor notes in the food.
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Carla: Even the shape of the crystals will cause
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a different kind of, where is it going to burst in your mouth? How is it going to break
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down in your mouth? Like these crystals are very coarse, so some people are a little bit,
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you know, they need it to be ground up because it's strong. Whereas a flake salt, which we
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offer as well, kind of dissipates in your mouth and it's not as like potent.
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Vanessa: Okay. And that's actually flat flakes of salts.
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Carla: Yeah.
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Vanessa: Okay. I feel like I've seen that in a picture
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before, but I've never bought flake salt before. Do people add that when they're cooking, or
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is that more for... Carla:
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Garnishing. Vanessa:
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A garnish to look at the nice shape? Carla:
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You can, yeah. I mean, cooking is fine with it, but I mean some people spend a lot of
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money on salt , so some salts you only use for garnishment or finishing the salt.
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Vanessa: Okay.
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Carla: This is a great cooking salt cause it's got
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the coarse crystals and it dissolves nicely into liquids and heat.
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Vanessa: Okay.
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Carla: And it's cheaper. So you don't want to put
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a handful in your pasta water of the flakes that are so expensive, right.
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Vanessa: Yeah. So would the flavor of, for example,
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this is fine ground, if I had this in a coarser version, would it taste different or what
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would the experience be like to compare that? Carla:
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It's actually really interesting because even though these are the same salts, it's just
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this one ground up. This one tastes a little different. What we have found is part of what
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makes the minerals higher and in the salts that we have offered is the moisture. So when
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you grind it and you lose its little crystal box encapsulation that holds the brine, the
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liquid, you lose a little bit of the minerals. So you have a higher sodium. So this does
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have a slightly higher sodium than the crystals. So you have a little more of a bitter taste.
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Vanessa: There's something that's moisture inside.
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Inside the little crystal itself, it seems quite scientific.
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Carla: It is. Yeah. We've worked with lots of scientists
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and doctors over the years, over 600, actually, that endorse our salt that have seen the difference
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firsthand with their patients. Vanessa:
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Yeah. Tell me about that health benefits or the difference in health because there's a
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lot of problems with too much salt nowadays. Carla:
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Definitely. Yeah. Sodium is something that is 100% needed in the body, no matter what.
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We lose it constantly through sweat, tears, and going to the bathroom. So we have to replenish
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it in a way that the body knows how to get it back in our body in a way that can be assimilated.
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The body has... it's kind of like a key where there's a potassium pump in between the cell
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walls, and without that potassium key, the sodium can't go in between the cell walls
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to replenish itself. So when you have a super high sodium table salt that you're using,
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you're going to have swelling. You're going to have all these issues because the sodium
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can't get into the cell walls where it needs to go.
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Vanessa: Oh, interesting.
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Carla: But if you have a salt that, even if it has
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similar sodium content but also has potassium, that potassium pump can actually work, and
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the sodium can go and hydrate the areas that need to go.
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Vanessa: So having the other minerals with it can help
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the sodium to actually be more beneficial for your body.
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Carla: Right. Now there are some people with sodium
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sensitivities that obviously we do have salts for those people as well.
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Vanessa: Really?
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Carla: Yeah, because that is a thing, too. Everybody's
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different just like your body reacts differently to caffeine or to dairy, you need to listen
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to your own body. Vanessa:
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Yeah. Yeah. So I'm curious, what salt do you use at home?
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Carla: Oh, gosh.
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Vanessa: I'm sure you have a plethora.
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Carla: I do. My table's covered in salt with all
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these different jars, and right now because I am pregnant I am more on the higher potassium
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because my potassium level was so low. Vanessa:
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Oh, interesting, okay. So you're using that to help supplement your baby.
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Carla: Right, right. Yeah.
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Vanessa: When you use it, are you just using a little
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bit, and that's enough to give you potassium? Because I know when you take a pill, there's
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a big amount of something in there like a supplement.
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Carla: Yeah. Right. I was still taking a pill because
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I was so low, but I realized, okay, I'm going to not go with my magnesium, my high sodium
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salts. I'm going to go with my potassium ones, and I'll just pinch it. And your tongue is
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a great tester. If something tastes good to you, and it feels like it's satisfying, that's
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usually your body's saying, "I needed this." There are some cases where it's extreme. If
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you're going to eat a whole chocolate cake over there, your body probably doesn't need
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all that chocolate cake. Vanessa:
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You can overindulge, but when you eat something that's got just enough of the seasoning on
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it, then that could be really helpful. Carla:
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Yeah, and a lot of the doctors, what they saw was people have this unquenchable salty
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tooth where they can't seem to get enough, but when they switch them to a high mineral
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sodium sea salt ratio, their salty tooth becomes a little more quenched because their body's
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finally getting the sodium where it needs to go in their body. It's really fascinating.
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I wish there were more studies. Vanessa:
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So maybe they were lessening the amount of salt that they were intaking, but they're
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intaking the right type? Carla:
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Right. Yeah. They finally felt that satisfaction. Yeah, and this is just in people's practices
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where they contacted us and shared these stories, even in children, they were saying.
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Vanessa: Oh, wow. I'm really curious to test that on
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myself, too, and try and with different things, and I think people around the world, My students
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can do that as well, especially if there's something that, like with the U.S., Morton
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salt. It's just the typical salt that you're probably going to find in a lot of typical
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places. Carla:
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The American salt, right? Vanessa:
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Yeah, I'm sure a lot of other countries have that kind of typical thing, too, but to try
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something that's actually been maybe more studied and has a lot of thought gone into
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it. It'd be interesting to feel that difference yourself.
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Carla: Yeah, definitely.
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Vanessa: So I'm curious when, because this is your
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family's business, is everyone in your family involved in Celtic salt? Sea salt?
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Carla: We have a huge family, so no.
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Vanessa: Okay.
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Carla: There's only a handful of us that are still
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involved. Vanessa:
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So you chose, "I'm going to do this." Carla:
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Yeah. Vanessa:
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Okay. Carla:
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I went to culinary school, and then it just kind of seemed to be a nice fit, and yeah,
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it's just been a passion that we've all kind of shared for years.
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Vanessa: Nice.
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Carla: My sister is a Pilates instructor in New York,
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so she kind of went on her own thing, which is cool.
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Vanessa: Yeah.
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Carla: I stayed here and just continued the legacy.
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Vanessa: And that's awesome. So when you were growing
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up, I'm sure that was something that was big in your family.
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Carla: Yeah.
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Vanessa: Did they also have a table of salt?
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Carla: Yeah, oh, our whole family is... They're all
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about the salt. Vanessa:
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Sure. Carla:
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They send us pictures. "I'm at this grocery store. Here it is," or "I'm in this country
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here. Here it is." So that's fun. Vanessa:
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Oh, that's so cool. Vanessa:
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How did you enjoy that conversation with Carla? Was it a little fast, a little tricky? Did
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you understand everything? I hope that it made you think about something, salt, that
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we don't often think about. Next is a vocabulary lesson. You're going to see my husband Dan
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and I explaining some key expressions that you heard in that conversation with Carla.
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After our explanations, you're going to see a clip from the original conversation with
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Carla so that you can just remember the original context and use them yourself. All right,
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let's get started with the vocabulary lesson. Vanessa:
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The first expression that we're going to talk about today is the word "sustainable."
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Dan: Ooh, "sustainable."
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Vanessa: The typical way that we usually use this is
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to talk about the environment, and that's how Carly used it. She was talking about how
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different salt practices are sustainable for the environment or unsustainable for the environment,
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but there are some other ways we can use this as well. How would you use the word "sustainable"?
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Dan: Sustainable. Yeah. So I think today, primarily
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I do think environmentally, and some people even just say "sustainability." Like, "We
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have great sustainability in this country," or "We're very unsustainable." I think most
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environmentalists say that we're unsustainable right now. But yeah, there's other ways you
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can use this. You can use it in certain situations that you don't think can continue. So maybe,
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for example, you're in a relationship with somebody, and you argue all the time. Somebody
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might be talking with you and saying, "Yeah, I don't think your relationship is sustainable.
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I don't think it can keep on going." Vanessa:
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Yeah, you can't continue at that in that same way for a long time, at least while still
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being happy. It's not possible. And you could even use this to talk about your English practice.
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If you say, "Okay, I'm going to make an English plan for myself. I'm going to study for five
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hours every day." Do you think that that's sustainable?
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Dan: No.
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Vanessa: No, because you have to have a life, too.
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You have to eat and sleep and go to work and hopefully see some family and friends. It's
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not possible to continue doing that. So you might say to yourself, "Okay, I need to create
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a sustainable English practice." Dan:
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Ooh. Vanessa:
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"What is something that I can continue on doing into the future?" Maybe it's something
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simple like, "Okay, I'm going to listen to a couple minutes of this vocabulary lesson
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every day while I drive to work." Cool. Okay. I think that's pretty sustainable. You can
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continue doing that without too much stress to your personal environment. So what we're
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going to do for each of these vocabulary words, is we're going to also show you a clip from
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the conversation with Carla so that you can see how it was originally used, which is what
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we're going to do now. Let's watch the clip. Carla:
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This started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years, and it's still
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there today. This started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years.
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This started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years.
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Dan: The next expression is "thought process,"
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and this just means a way of thinking or thinking deeply about something. And I think we usually
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say this when you want to maybe question somebody, either if they did something wrong or if they're
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just doing something well and you want more details. For example, maybe somebody is like
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a science student, and they solved a problem that was really difficult. You could ask them,
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"What was your thought process when you went into this problem? How did you think about
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it?" And so "process" means that you're going step by step how you did something. So it's
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something in detail. Vanessa:
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Yeah, maybe you want to imitate what they did. What was your thought process so that
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I can imitate that in future experiments? Dan:
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Right. But on the other hand, if somebody did something wrong, most people would probably
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say, "What were you thinking?" But you could also say, "What was your thought process here?
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Why did you do that?" Vanessa:
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Yeah. It's just another way to say, "Huh? Why in the world did you make this terrible
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decision?" But it's a little more indirect than "What were you thinking" or "What was
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your thought process? Why did you think that driving the car down the street when it was
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icy was a good idea? What was your thought process?" And maybe you didn't have a thought
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process. Maybe you just did it. You didn't think about it, but it's maybe someone questioning
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your judgment. Vanessa:
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You can also use this to explain or defend yourself. So a common way to use this is to
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say, "My thought process was..." So let's see, if I decide to save money, and I want
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to save a lot of money. And in the end, maybe I don't really save that much. But someone
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might ask you, "Why are you trying to save money?" If I say, "Oh, I can't go out to eat,
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I'm doing other stuff," and I might say, "My thought process was if I save enough money,
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then I can replace my car because our car is getting old or it's breaking down a lot."
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So I'm just kind of explaining why I'm doing something. Why am I saving money? My thought
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process was I'm doing this because I want to hopefully buy a different car in the future.
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So you can use it to defend yourself. "Why are you doing this?" "Oh, my thought process
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was this. Please understand." So you can use it in both ways as a question or as a defense.
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All right, let's watch this so you can see how it was used.
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Vanessa: It's incredible that they had the thought
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process to say, "We need to save wood. Let's use what we've got." Nature, the sun. It's
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incredible that they had the thought process to say, "We need to save wood. Let's use what
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we've got." It's incredible that they had the thought process to say, "We need to save
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wood. Let's use what we've got." Vanessa:
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The next expression is "to tackle." Dan:
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Ahh! Vanessa:
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Yeah. Have you ever watched rugby or American football? The players will just slam into
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each other and kind of like wrestling, push each other down.
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Dan: It literally means to grab and throw somebody
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down, but you go down with them. Vanessa:
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Yeah. So you are tackling someone. This is the literal definition of "to tackle," but
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is that how Carla used it? Dan:
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No. So yeah, there's a figurative way that we use this that is probably more common and
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it's just- Vanessa:
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Yeah, we use this all the time. Dan:
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Yeah. It just means to do something that's really difficult and big, maybe too big, even.
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For example, if you say, "I'm going to learn 1,000 words tonight"...
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Vanessa: Whoa.
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Dan: ...you're probably tackling too much.
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Vanessa: Yeah. If you say, "I'm going to tackle these
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verbs" or I'm going to tackle some big problem," just like the American football example with
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you're physically taking down a big person, that's a big task. It's not impossible, but
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it's just a big task. So maybe this year, at the beginning of the year, you decided
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you had a couple goals for yourself. "I'm going to tackle my fear of public speaking."
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Ooh. So maybe you're going to join a public speaking organization and just practice public
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speaking each month, or you're going to do something actively to try to overcome some
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difficulty. "Oh, that's a lot to tackle, but you can do it."
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Dan: Yeah. It's kind of used as like a confidence
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boost. And some people just say, "It's a lot to tackle, but I think I can do it." Right?
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So you just put it in this one catchphrase. "It's a lot to tackle."
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Vanessa: Yeah. "So learning all of these verbs is a
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lot to tackle, but I think I can do it." So I hope for you that all of the vocabulary
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from this lesson, even though it's a lot to tackle over the whole month, you can do it.
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Study little by little. Keep practicing. You can tackle it. You can do it. All right, let's
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watch the clip. Carla:
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They've lifted that sense, but it's a huge investment, as you can imagine, to tackle
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that kind of distribution, and we're still a family owned company. We've never had investors.
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Everything has been grassroots grown. But it's a huge investment, as you can imagine,
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to tackle that kind of distribution. But it's a huge investment, as you can imagine to tackle
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that kind of distribution. Dan:
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The next expression is "on top of," and this can mean as it literally sounds, you're on
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the top of something or at the greatest point. For example, "I'm on top of the world!" People
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say that figurative, actually. It means that you're the best person ever if you say, "I'm
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on top of the world" or- Vanessa:
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You might be on top of Mount Everest, though. In this case you are literally on top of the
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world. Dan:
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Ooh, that's true. But you may also say to your child, "Don't stand on top of the table.
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Right. Don't stand on the top of it. So this is literal, but we also use this to mean "in
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addition to." So "I have a lot of homework and on top of that, I also..."
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Vanessa: Have a part-time job.
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Dan: Yeah. "I also have to work tonight." Right?
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So this plus this. And we would say that if it's we're already kind of overwhelmed or
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we already have something big, then you're going to say, "I have this on top of this
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other thing." Vanessa:
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Yeah. It's usually adding responsibility. So it can be used in a positive way, like,
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"Oh, he's such a great guy. And on top of that, he's really handsome." You can use it
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in that positive way, but I feel like it's used negatively more often. What do you think?
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Dan: Yeah, I mean that sounded all right, what
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you said. Vanessa:
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Yeah. It's natural. But I feel like we tend to use this in a more negative way.
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Dan: Certainly, if you have a lot going on, that's
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usually the situation. You have a lot going on, and on top of that you have other things.
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Vanessa: Yes. A lot of stuff going on. What if I said,
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"I was really on top of my game last night"? Dan:
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Yeah. Yeah. You're really on top of your game. That means that you're playing the best or
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doing the best that you possibly can. You're on top of your game. You can also just say,
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"I'm on top of it." Vanessa:
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Yes. Dan:
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Meaning that you're on it. You're doing it. You're doing the best you can.
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Vanessa: You're staying current. So maybe if your boss
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says, "How's the project going? Is it going to be done by 4:00 PM today?" You could say,
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"Yep, I'm on top of it." Dan:
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Yeah, and you can kind of picture like literally standing or sitting on this thing, right.
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Vanessa: You are conquering it.
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Dan: You are conquering it. You're on top of it.
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Vanessa: Yeah. I think that's a common expression to
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say, "Don't worry, I got it. I'm not falling behind. I'm not procrastinating. I'm on top
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of it." And that could even be a personality trait, too, like "she is always on top of
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it. She always knows what's going on and she doesn't forget little things." This is kind
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of an A-type personality. She's always on top of it, and "it" means life.
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Dan: Yeah, or on top of things.
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Vanessa: On top of things. Yes, that could be different
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things that are going on in her life. Because we talked about a couple of different ways
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to use this like standing on top of... Dan:
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The world. Vanessa:
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...a mountain, to be on top of something or one thing on top of another, kind of building
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this responsibility, I recommend checking out the lesson guide so that you can just
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visually see each of those sentences. It's going to help you to remember them, but also
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hopefully be able to use them yourself. That's the goal. I hope so. All right. Let's watch
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the clips that you can see how I use this wonderful expression to talk about salt. Let's
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watch. Carla:
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The bleaching caused it to be bitter, so they had to sweeten it. So they added dextrous,
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which causes it to be sticky so it wouldn't shake out of the jar. So they added anti-caking
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agent chemicals. Vanessa:
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One thing top of another. One thing on top of another. One thing on top of another.
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Vanessa: The next expression is "to come to terms with
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something." There's lot of words in this expression, but "to come to terms with something" means
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you're accepting something that is maybe emotionally difficult. And I feel like we have to do this
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a lot in life. In order to live somewhat satisfied, you have to come to terms with difficult things
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in your life and then move on. So what is something for you that you've come to terms
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with and you've lived? Dan:
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Yes, I have a personal example. Vanessa:
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Okay. Dan:
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So some of you might have struggles with body image. I will say that it wasn't a huge struggle
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for me, but in puberty I realized that I'm a really skinny guy. Right? So that used to
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bother me. I kind of wanted to be bigger and stronger, but I had to come to terms with
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the fact that I will never be a buff guy. I will never be very big or strong. I'm just
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a skinny guy, and I've come to terms with that. I came to terms with it a long time
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ago. It doesn't bother me anymore. I've embraced it, one may say. I wear skinny jeans or a
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skinny shirt, and I just say, "Look at me. I'm a skinny guy and I like it."
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Vanessa: So you have really come to terms with it,
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but this is something that may be for you and puberty as you're kind of learning about
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yourself and your body's changing, you feel- Dan:
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I used to hate it. Vanessa:
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Yeah, it's a difficult thing. And then you realized, "Okay, this is just who I am," especially
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I think this might have been a difficult thing for you because your brother is twice-
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Dan: He's huge.
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Vanessa: He's like twice as big as you are. He's like
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a big football player kind of guy. So it's kind of the opposite of your body type. So
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maybe growing up you had to really come to terms with the fact that you're different
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from your brother and just different kind of guy.
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Dan: Yeah, it was mostly, probably just thinking
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about with the ladies, honestly, like, will they think I'm just too scrawny? "Scrawny"
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is like the really bad word for "skinny." Vanessa:
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It's not a bad word as in a curse word, but it just feels really negative.
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Dan: Yeah.
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Vanessa: Did it work out for you with the ladies?
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Dan: It worked out in the end.
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Vanessa: Good. I'm curious, what is something that
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for you, you have needed to come to terms with? You might have noticed that in Dan's
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sentence, in his example, he said, "Come to terms with the fact that." So here he is stating
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that "It's a fact. I'm a skinny guy." Dan:
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I can't change it. Vanessa:
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"This is something I can't change." Or you might say, "I just need to come to terms with
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the fact that my native language of Japanese is completely different than English. I can't
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change that, but I'm still going to try my best to learn English." So it is a fact that
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Japanese and English are way different. We don't really share any grammar or any vocabulary,
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but your native language is Japanese. You can't change that. So you could say, "I need
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to come to terms with the fact that English is a little bit more challenging for me because
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of my native language. But I'm not going to let it stop me. I'm not going to let it hold
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me back. I'm going to push on." This is something that's maybe a little difficult, but you are
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going to embrace it and continue on in life. Dan:
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Yes. Vanessa:
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All right, let's watch the clips. You can see how this wonderful expression was used.
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Carla: What we have kind of come to terms with is
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we've realized the salt is actually perfect in its own way. What have kind of come to
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terms with is we've realized the salt is actually perfect in its own way. What we have kind
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of come to terms with as we've realized the salt is actually perfect in its own way.
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Dan: The next expression is "side by side." Hey,
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we're sitting side by side right now. Vanessa:
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We are. Dan:
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Yeah. So this just means "next to each other." And so you could use this in a kind of comparative
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way, like Carla said in the conversation. "So when you try the salts side by side,"
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meaning right next to each other, one after another, then you'll be able to tell a difference.
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So this is a little more complex way to use "side by side."
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Vanessa: I feel like whenever someone asked me specifically
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about a small difference in something, I often use this expression. "I need to hear them
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side by side" or "I need to taste them side by side." So for example, we watch some Miyazaki
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movies. This is a Japanese animator who makes some great movies for kids, but also for adults.
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And there are some different English translations of those movies.
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Dan: Yeah, it's a couple of versions. There's some
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debate about what's better. Vanessa:
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There's some debate about which one is best. So we thought, "Oh, maybe we should buy the
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DVD of those movies so that we can continue to watch them instead of trying to find them
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online every single time we want to watch them." And then we thought, "Which version
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should we get? There's different versions in English. Which one should we get?" And
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then I said, "I don't really hear a difference unless I listen to them side by side. I think
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both are great. Both versions and English are great, but I can't hear the difference
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unless I hear them side by side." So this means directly one after another, the same
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sentence, then the same sentence. Otherwise it sounds the same.
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Dan: Yeah, and you may even say, "I need a side
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by side comparison," so use it as an adjective like that. But we also use the "side by side"
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maybe as a camaraderie expression. So if you're together in something, right? "We walked side
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by side into the difficult situation." I don't feel like it's super common anymore.
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Vanessa: You might hear that, though. It kind of means
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that you are together. "We are struggling with this together."
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Dan: Right. "We're doing this side by side. We're
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together in this." Vanessa:
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Yeah. Yeah. You could use it like that, and it could also just mean as simple as what
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Dan said at the very beginning, "We are sitting side by side on the couch." Okay. Yeah. It's
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something very literal and... Dan:
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That's a fact. Vanessa:
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...very simple. All right, let's watch the clips that you can see how we used "side by
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side" to talk about tasting different salts. Carla:
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Once you start to taste different salts side by side, you'll start to go, "Oh, wow, I can
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taste that. This one's a little more bitter." Once you start to taste different salts side
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by side, you'll start to go, "Oh, wow, I can taste that. This one's a little more bitter."
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Once you start to taste different salts side by side, you'll start to go, "Oh, wow, I can
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taste that this one's a little more bitter." Vanessa:
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The next expression is "to be all about something." Dan:
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"All about." Vanessa:
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Yeah, so in the conversation, Carla was saying that her family is all about salt.
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Dan: Makes sense.
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Vanessa: Yeah. That means that they like, very intensely,
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salt. Dan:
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Yes. Vanessa:
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Her family's been involved in the salt business for a long time, so she can say, "We're all
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about salt." Dan:
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And they know all about salt. They know almost everything about it.
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Vanessa: Yeah. Yeah. So they are deeply involved in
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that. They like it a lot. "We're all about salt." If you like something a lot, maybe
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if you like English a lot, you can say, "Yeah, I'm all about English. Every moment of every
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day, that's what I think about. I'm all about English." But it could also be to talk about
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a main reason for something. So how would you use this if you were going to use it to
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talk about a main reason? Dan:
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The main reason? Vanessa:
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Yeah. Dan:
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What comes to mind for me, obviously, is hockey. Vanessa:
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Okay. Dan:
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Because I love hockey. So "hockey is all about skating" or "being good at hockey is all about
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skating. Can you skate well?" So this is the primary factor. The thing you need to know
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more than anything else or the thing you need to be able to do more than anything else.
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So you could say, "Yeah, being good at hockey is all about skating."
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Vanessa: I would say the same thing about starting
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a business. Starting a business- Dan:
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It's all about skating? Vanessa:
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It's not all about skating. That would be pretty fun, though. Maybe a hockey business.
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But starting a business is all about dedication. If you are willing to dedicate your time and
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your energy, then you're probably going to succeed.
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Dan: It's all about diligence.
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Vanessa: Yeah, it's a really important factor, is diligence
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and dedication. So starting a business is all about dedication. Yes, you need good ideas.
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You need to be probably good at what you're doing, but if you're not dedicated, it's not
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going to work. Dan:
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Yeah, and this is an exaggeration, so it's not literally all about this. You need to
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know other things, too. But if you really want to emphasize the most important thing,
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then you'll say "all about." Vanessa:
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Yes, "it is all about dedication. It is all about skating." Or you could just say, "I'm
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all about English," and it means that you like English a lot.
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Dan: Yeah. You always... You love it. You want
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to study all the time. Yeah, that's probably you, right?
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Vanessa: Yeah. I hope so. All right. Let's watch the
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clip so that you could see how this was used. Carla:
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Our whole family is... They're all about the salt.
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Vanessa: Sure.
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Carla: They send us pictures. "I'm at this grocery
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store. Here it is," or "I'm in this country. Here it is," so it's fun.
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Vanessa: Oh, that's so cool.
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Carla: Our whole family is... They're all about the
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salt. Our whole family is... They're all about the salt.
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Vanessa: How did you enjoy that vocabulary lesson?
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I hope it was useful and enjoyable for you. Next, it's time for a grammar lesson, where
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we're going to focus on some important phrasal verbs that you heard in the original conversation
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with Carla. Phrasal verbs are an essential key to English sentences to help you sound
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natural. So I hope that the phrasal verbs we talk about in this lesson will help you
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to expand what you can say and also to understand native speakers better. All right, let's get
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started. Vanessa:
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The first phrasal verb that we're going to talk about is "to use up." And when we use
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something, you're just making use of it. But what is "use up"? Is it putting it up high?
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Dan: No. That means you have finished something.
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Vanessa: Completely.
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Dan: Or used something completely, and we often
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use this for things in the kitchen. For example, we eat a lot of oatmeal. Therefore we have
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used up the oatmeal. Or if somebody is looking for something in the kitchen, they might say,
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"Where's the oatmeal? Where's the flour? Where's the milk?" And you can say, "Oh, I'm sorry
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I used up all the milk." Vanessa:
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Or we could split this phrasal verb and say, "I used it up" because we already know that
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we're talking about milk, so we can just replace the word "milk" with "it." "Oh, sorry. I used
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it up when I was making some hot chocolate last night, or when I was doing something
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else." "I used it up" or "I used up the milk." It's completely gone, but we can also use
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this a little bit more figuratively. Dan:
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Yeah. People do use it figuratively sometimes. Maybe they say, "I've used up my energy."
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If you're awake, you probably still have energy, but if you're just really tired, you could
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say, "I've used up my energy." Vanessa:
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Yep. I'm completely ready to rest. Dan:
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Yeah. And perhaps somebody will say, "I've used up my patience."
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Vanessa: Oh! Okay.
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Dan: That means that you're not going to wait for
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somebody anymore. Or sometimes if you have a child, they may be... Oh, our kid does this
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all the time, just trying to distract you and do one more thing and just keep on doing
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what he's doing and not listening. You could say, "All right, I've used up all my patience"
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or "I've used up my patience." Vanessa:
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Let's do this. Let's go. Dan:
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"It's time to go to bed now." Vanessa:
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Yeah, you might use this. If you're a teacher, you might say, "Ugh, today was such a hard
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day. I used up all my patience, and I'm ready to go home." So you can use up something that's
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a little bit more figurative, like patience, energy, or you can also use up money, like
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if you are saving to buy maybe a new car. And then you buy the car, you can say, "I
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used up all my savings to buy the car." So your savings is completely gone. Your savings
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account is at zero, or figuratively, maybe close to zero, and you've used up that money.
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Carla: Instead of boiling the water, boiling to evaporate
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it, using up all the valuable wood that they needed for other things back then, they realized
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that they needed to create these ponds using these clay beds. And using up all the valuable
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wood that they needed for other things back then and using up all the valuable wood that
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they needed for other things back then. Vanessa:
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The next phrasal verb is "to come from," and here we're talking about originating at some
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destination, but I want to let you know that we do not use this to talk about your country.
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If someone says, "Oh, where are you from?" If you said, "I come from Brazil," it feels
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really weird. It's kind of like you're a package that's being mailed from Brazil.
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Dan: Yeah, it sounds too impersonal or like a real
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origin, like "I was born in Brazil," right? "Brazil made me."
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Vanessa: Yeah.
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Dan: It's kind of got a weird feel to it.
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Vanessa: You might hear this in really, really formal
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situations, but I just want to let you know upfront that we don't talk about this specifically
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for your home country, but there's a lot of other ways that we can talk about "come from"
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for people or for items. So what do you think is a main way that we use "to come from"?
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Dan: So I think somebody might use this in a question
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a lot if they don't know where something came from. So if there's something in your house
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that you don't know where it's from, you might ask, "Where did this come from?"
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Vanessa: Yeah.
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Dan: And then Vanessa might say, "Oh, it came from
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Target," for example. Vanessa:
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It came from Amazon. Dan:
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Yeah, it came from Amazon. Vanessa:
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The most likely situation. Dan:
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Yes. Vanessa:
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So if you are a walking in someone's house that you haven't been in before, and they
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have a really cool statue, a really cool painting, you could say, "Oh, that's really cool. Where
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did that come from?" And you can use it in that questioning situation, "Where did it
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come from?" But we can also use this for maybe for defending yourself as well. Like, "I don't
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know where it came from." This is kind of the classic teenage situation that if your
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mom goes into your bedroom and she smells weed, for example, which is marijuana. So
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if she smells that and she's like, "What is that smell?" You're like, "Oh, mom, I don't
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know where that smell came from." You're kind of defending yourself. "It wasn't me!"
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Dan: Sure!
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Vanessa: So you might say, "I don't know where it came
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from," and this is a vague sense. We're not talking specifically about the destination.
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Dan: Or you might say, "Where'd that come from?"
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Vanessa: "Oh, where'd that come from? My friend must
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have put that in my bag. I didn't even know. Where did that come from?" So we often use
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it in those kind of vague situations. "Where did that come from? I don't know where it
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came from." Dan:
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And actually, people use that question if they're really surprised about something somebody
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said, if you say something really rude or mean, you might ask, "Where'd that come from?"
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Vanessa: Oh, so this is kind of the figurative sense
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of using it. Dan:
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Yeah, a little more figurative. Vanessa:
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If someone is pretty positive, and you're having a good conversation, then all of a
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sudden they say, "Oh, it's so terrible, blah, blah, blah." And they feel really frustrated,
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right, instantly, you might say, "Whoa, where did that frustration come from?" So it's like,
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where did your frustration originate from? Because all of a sudden, you just kind of
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felt frustrated. It seemed kind of weird that that just happened.
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Dan: But you would always ask, "Where did that
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come from?" Vanessa:
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Yeah. "Whoa. Where'd that come from?" That means that statement or that feeling that
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you're expressing. But there is another figurative way that we can use this that is often used,
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quite interesting. Dan:
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Yes, "You need to see where I'm coming from." Vanessa:
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Oh, yes. Dan:
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Or "Can't you see where I'm coming from?" Vanessa:
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What does this mean? "Can't you see where I'm coming from?" Does it mean my home? I'm
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coming from my home? Dan:
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No. It means your point of view, from your perspective or your opinion. So if you say
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this to somebody, you're basically telling them that they're only thinking about themselves,
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only thinking about their feelings. So if you say, "You need to see where I'm coming
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from," that kind of reminds them that you have an opinion or a feeling in this situation.
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Vanessa: I know I've used that in discussions or arguments
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with Dan before. Dan:
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Oh, yes. Vanessa:
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Where I've said, "Oh, can't you see where I'm coming from?" Just to put in perspective
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that- Dan:
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It's probably a common female refrain. Vanessa:
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Maybe just "Please see it from my perspective." And it's not necessarily rude. It's just saying,
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"Okay, please look at it from my perspective. Can't you see where I'm coming from?" Or "Don't
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you see where I'm coming from?" You're asking them to say, "Okay, I understand why you have
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that point of view. Maybe I don't agree with it, but I understand." So this could be if,
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for example, maybe if you don't agree with something that your parents say and you feel
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like, "Oh, their generation is so different," you might think to yourself, "I understand
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where they're coming from. I understand their point of view because of the way they grew
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up, because of their parents, because the world was very different back then. So I understand
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where they're coming from. I understand their point of view. That's kind of the origin of
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their thoughts." This is a lovely phrasal verb with many different meanings.
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Carla: But you'll see all different colors, and all
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those different colors come from different mineral compositions coming from the different
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regions. And all those different colors come from different mineral compositions coming
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from the different regions. And all those different colors come from different mineral
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compositions coming from the different regions. Vanessa:
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The next phrasal verb is "to start off" or "to start off with something," and you can
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imagine the verb "to start" is the beginning. But when we use "to start off with," we usually
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are talking about the beginning of some kind of series of events. So multiple things are
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happening afterwards. For example, if I said, "Oh, man, I really, I want to make bread,
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but I don't know how to make bread." If Dan is a bread expert, he might say, "To start
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off with, you need to have a good recipe." Dan:
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Toss the flour into the air. Vanessa:
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Oh, wow. You're really an expert. Dan:
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That's from the magic of practice. Vanessa:
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Throw flour in the air, and it just comes down like a loaf of bread. Amazing. So we're
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saying, "to start off with, you need to do this." We're using that phrasal verb kind
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of as an introduction to the series. "To start off with, you need to do this and here's kind
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of the things that you need to do." Dan:
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Yeah, I think you use this usually when you're introducing something or if you're giving
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instructions. So if you're giving instructions, you might tell the other person, "We need
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to start off with this" or if you're- Vanessa:
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You need to start off with a good recipe, then get the ingredients, then have a lot
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of time. Dan:
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Right. Or if you are maybe making a presentation, you might say, "We're going to start off today
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with a little bit of a story," for example. Vanessa:
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Yeah, so you could use it to begin something that's going to have several other events
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or activities that happen afterwards. So in Dan's sentence, he said, "I'm starting the
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meeting by saying, 'Oh, we're going to start off today with something.'" I want to let
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you know that you're also going to hear the word "by." "We're going to start off today
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by telling a joke. We're going to start off today with telling a joke." You could use
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either. You're going to hear both of those, but the main part, "start off with" or "start
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off," it's going to be the same for all of these.
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Carla: And the key with salt tasting is you want
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to start off with the highest mineral content salt going to the highest sodium salt. You
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want to start off with the highest mineral content salt. You want to start off with the
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highest mineral content salt. Vanessa:
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Were any of those phrasal verbs new to you? I hope that our explanations help you to remember
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them and learn how to use them in real conversations. Next, it's time for a pronunciation lesson.
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We're going to take an in depth look at a couple sentences that you heard in the original
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conversation. I'm going to break those down step by step so that you can imitate our pronunciation.
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So what I want you to do is I want you to try to repeat with me, speak out loud, use
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your pronunciation muscles. It's great to hear me, but it's even better if you speak
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out loud yourself. So I challenge you to be active, and let's get started.
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Vanessa: Hi. Welcome to this month's pronunciation
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lesson. Today we're going to be focusing on five sentences that you heard in the conversation
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with Carla. And each of those sentences features a vocabulary expression or a phrasal verb
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that we talked about in the previous lessons, so I hope that this will help you to remember
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those words and pronounce them correctly. What we're going to do is we're going to take
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a look at the clip, and then I'm going to help you break down the sentence so that you
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can say it exactly the way that we did, and then we're going to watch it again. I hope
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that your understanding will improve, but also your pronunciation skills. All right,
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let's start with the first sentence. Carla:
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So this started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years, and it's
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still there today. This started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years.
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This started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years.
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Vanessa: In this sentence, you heard Carla say, "This
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started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years." She's talking about
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the method of creating salt. Instead of burning wood, they're using the sun to evaporate the
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water, and this is a sustainable process. The sun is always going to be hot, so it's
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easy to evaporate with the sun, and it's sustainable for the earth as well. So let's break down
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this sentence starting at the beginning. Vanessa:
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In the beginning of the sentence, she says, "This started." "Started." This e-d word "started"
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ends in an "id" sound. "Started." What's another sound that you hear? The word "start" ends
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in a T, but this T is changing to a D. This is super typical in American English that
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T's changed to D sounds. So I want you to say this with me. "This started." It kind
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of sounds like "star" plus "did." "Started." "This started." "This started." I want you
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to be as active as possible during this lesson. So whenever I'm saying something, and I'm
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repeating something a couple of times, I hope that you can say it out loud, too. It's great
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to listen to my voice, but it's even better if you can say it out loud yourself.
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Vanessa: All right, let's go to the next part of the
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sentence. "A very sustainable practice. A very sustainable practice." Let's break down
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that big word here. Sustain-able. That final part sounds like "uh." "Sustainable." There's
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two "uh" sounds here at the beginning. Sus-tain-a-ble. So I want you to say that part with me. "A
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very sustainable practice. A very sustainable practice."
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Vanessa: In the next two words, she says, "That has.
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That has." First, let's listen for the vowel sound. "Th-a-a." It's a short E. Even though
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the word "that" has an A, "that" often in fast English, it becomes "theh," "eh," "eh."
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"That has. That has. That has." But what's happening to the final T in that word? "That."
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Do you hear it all? "That has." This is called a stopped T. So instead of making that T sound
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with a puff of air, your tongue is going to stop at the top of your mouth. "That has."
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That has." You're making a T sound. You're just not letting that puff of air escape.
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"That has." "That has." And then she says, "lasted hundreds of years." "Lasted."
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Vanessa: Ooh, does that sound familiar? It's similar
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to "started." "We have lasted." So just think l-a-s, "las," plus "did", d-i-d. "Lasted."
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"Lasted hundreds of years. Lasted hundreds of years." So both past tense verbs, "started,"
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"lasted," have the same type of pronunciation. The T is changing to a D, and that final e-d
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ending is going to sound like "id." "Started." "Lasted." Do you think we can put this all
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together? Let's go back and take a look at this full sentence? Try to remember all those
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things we talked about and we're going to see which words are emphasized so that you
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can have the right cadence and rhythm in this sentence.
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Vanessa: "This started a very sustainable practice
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that has lasted hundreds of years." She's emphasizing "started." "This started a very
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sustainable practice," emphasizing both of those words, "that has lasted hundreds of
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years." She also emphasizes the word "hundreds" because that's the unimportant part of the
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sentence. How many years? Hundreds of years. Let's go back and try to say this sentence
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by emphasizing those important words. "This started a very sustainable practice that has
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lasted hundreds of years." You want to say it with me? "This started a very sustainable
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practice that has lasted hundreds of years." All right. It's your turn. I'm going to pause.
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No matter where you live around the world, I'll be listening, so make sure that you say
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this out loud with all of the correct pronunciation that we talked about. If you need a reminder,
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you could always check out the lesson guide. Each month I send a monthly lesson guide.
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This is like a mini textbook, and you can see all of the words that we've talked about
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and see how they're pronounced, and that will kind of give you a a good reminder as you're
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practicing this lesson. All right, it's your turn. Say the sentence all by yourself.
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Vanessa: (silence)
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Vanessa: Great work. Let's listen to how Carla said
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it in the original conversation. Carla:
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This started a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years. This started
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a very sustainable practice that has lasted hundreds of years. This started a very sustainable
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practice that has lasted hundreds of years. Vanessa:
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Did you hear those e-d words, "started," "lasted"? I hope so. Let's go on to the second sentence
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where you're going to hear the phrasal verb "to come from." Let's listen.
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Carla: But you'll see all different colors, and all
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those different colors come from different mineral compositions coming from the different
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regions. We even have a super white, white salt from Hawaii. All those different colors
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come from different mineral compositions coming from the different regions and all those different
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colors come from different mineral compositions coming from the different regions.
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Vanessa: In this sentence, Carla said, "All those different
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colors come from different mineral compositions coming from different regions." Do you hear
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a word that she repeats three times? She says "come from" twice, but she also says "different"
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three times. So today this is your chance to master pronouncing this word. Let's go
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back to the beginning and try to say this a little bit by a little bit together. "All
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those different colors." This is the first time that we've encountered the word "different"
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in the sentence. So let's say it slowly and together. Dif-rent. "Diff" with a clear F
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sound. Your top teeth are on your bottom lip. "Diff." And then we have "rent, rent." It
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kind of sounds like r-i-n, but we need to have a stopped T at the end. Diff-rent. That
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means that your tongue is stopped at the top of your mouth. You're going to say "different,"
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but you don't let that little final puff of air come out.
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Vanessa: So we need to say "diff-rent." Your tongue
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is stopped at the top of your mouth. "Different, different." "All those different colors."
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Can you say that with me? "All those different colors. All those different colors. All of
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those different colors come from diff-rent mineral compositions." Let's say that word
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again. "Come from diff-rent mineral compositions. Come from diff-rent mineral compositions.
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Coming from diff-rent regions." This word hasn't changed at all. All three times that
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we say it, it's going to be the same pronunciation. Helpful. Great. So let's say that final part
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again. "Coming from diff-rent regions. Coming from diff-rent regions." Great work. Let's
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go back and say this full sentence together and try to emphasize the important words.
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Vanessa: A good thing to remember is that the word
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directly after "different" is going to be emphasized in this whole sentence. So we can
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say, "All those different colors come from different mineral compositions coming from
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different regions." So we have "colors," "mineral compositions" and "regions." Let's try to
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say it together. "All those different colors come from different mineral compositions coming
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from different regions." Let's speed it up. "All those different colors come from different
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compositions coming from different regions." This is a great way to practice the word "different"
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a lot and also the word "come from." I think this phrasal verb is repeated enough that
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hopefully you'll remember it after this lesson. All right, I'm going to pause and I want you
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to say this all together. Make sure that you say "diff-rent" and also that you emphasize
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those correct words. Go ahead. Vanessa:
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(silence) Vanessa:
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Great work. Let's listen to her repeat the word "different" a lot.
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Carla: All those different colors come from different
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mineral compositions coming from the different regions. And all those different colors come
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from different mineral compositions coming from the different regions. And all those
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different colors come from different mineral compositions coming from the different regions.
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Vanessa: Did you hear "different, different, different"?
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I hope so. Let's go on to the third sentence where you're going to hear the expression
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to be all about." Let's listen. Carla:
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Our whole family is... They're all about the salt.
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Vanessa: Sure.
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Carla: They send us pictures. "I'm at this grocery
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store. Here it is," or "I'm in this country here," so it's fun.
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Vanessa: Oh, that's so cool.
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Carla: Our whole family is... They're all about the
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salt. Our whole family is... They're all about the salt.
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Vanessa: This is actually two sentences, and I just
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decided to add them together. She said, "Our whole family is... they're all about the salt."
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Let's break this down. It's seems like a short sentence, but there's a lot going on. At the
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beginning of this sentence. She says, "Our whole family is... Our whole family is...
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Our." How is she pronouncing o-u-r? "Our. Our." Does that sound like the letter R? Yep.
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It is the same pronunciation. When we say "our, our" with this slower, clearer pronunciation,
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"Our whole family is... Our," it's going to be for more... slower conversations, a little
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bit more intentional, but in fast conversations we just say "our." "Our whole family is..."
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"Our. Our." So I want you to say that with me. "Our whole family is... Our whole family
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is..." And that final word, i-s, "is" going to have a Z sound at the end. So try to say
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that with me. "Our whole family is... Our whole family is... Our whole family is...
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Our whole family is... Our whole family is..." Vanessa:
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Let's go on to the next part. "They're all about the salt. They're all about the salt."
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Let's start with the first word, "They're. They're." This is a contraction of "they"
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plus "are," but she doesn't say "they're. They're." This is the clear pronunciation
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for this contraction. In fast conversations, native speakers are just going to say "they're.
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They're." It kind of sounds like, "Look over there. He's over there." T-h-e-r-e. So you
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can kind of imagine that the Y is just gone. You can say, "They're. They're. They're all
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about the salt. They're. They're." Vanessa:
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And the next part she uses the key expression here, "all about the salt." Listen for the
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final T on those two words that end in T. "They're all about the salt. They're all about
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the salt." Do you hear the T? "They're all about the salt. No. Instead, this is going
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to be that stopped T sound, so I want your tongue on the roof of your mouth, stopping
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at the end of that word. "They're all about the salt. Salt, salt." If you just say "Sal,"
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it's a different sound than "salt" with a stopped T. If you just say s-o-l compared
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to s-o-l, "Sol, Sol" with a stopped T, or it's pronounced or it's spelled s-a-l-t, but
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the pronunciation is kind of like an O. That's why I said that, but you can say "Sol" with
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a stopped T, and it's going to sound much more natural.
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Vanessa: Do you think we can put that final sentence
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together? "They're all about the salt." Say it with me. "They're all about the salt. They're
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all about the salt." Okay, let's go back and try to say all of this together, including
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the first part. Let's say it and emphasize the right words. "Our whole family is... They're
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all about the salt. Our whole family is... They're all about the salt." Can you guess
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what we're emphasizing here? "Our whole family is... They're all about the salt." So we have
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"whole family." "all" and "salt." Let's say this all together. Remember all of the reductions
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that we talked about and also these emphasized words. Say it with me. "Our whole family is...
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They're all about the salt. Our whole family is... They're all about the salt. Our whole
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family is... They're all about the salt. Now it's your turn. Say it all by yourself. Go
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ahead. Vanessa:
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(silence) Vanessa:
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Great work. All right, let's listen to this sentence, and I want you to listen for all
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of those things that we talked about, those reductions, the stopped T's. Let's listen.
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Carla: Our whole family is... They're all about the
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salt. Our whole family is... They're all about the salt. Our whole family is. They're all
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about the salt." Vanessa:
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Are your pronunciation muscles warmed up? I hope so. Along with the conversation, vocabulary,
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grammar, and pronunciation lessons, you'll also get access to the MP3 versions of all
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of these lessons so that you can download them, listen to them while you're driving,
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while you're running, while you're cooking breakfast, and also the full transcript so
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that you can follow along and try to catch every single word. There's one more element
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to the Fearless Fluency Club that you get every month and that is The Story. Let's take
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a look at it. Vanessa:
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The Story is a fun one-page combination of everything you studied this month, vocabulary,
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grammar, pronunciation, the topic, everything is combined in The Story. You can listen to
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it, repeat it, and even memorize it. I also host weekly live lessons in our private Facebook
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group so that you can ask me questions and practice what you've been learning each week.
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A lot of members also choose to speak together each week or even daily, sometimes on Skype,
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Google Hangouts, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger. This is a great way to make friends around
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the world and also to use English actively. If you'd like to join me and other members
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around the world in the Fearless Fluency Club, you can check out the link up here or in the
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description. Vanessa:
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And now I have a question for you because we talked about salt today, and this is added
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to your food, I want to know what kind of food do you like to eat? Let me know in the
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comments. I hope, if you're reading the comments, you're not too hungry because I'm sure there
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will be amazing dishes that you mentioned. Thanks so much for learning English with me,
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and I'll see you again next Friday for a new lesson here on my YouTube channel. Bye.
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Vanessa: The next step is to download my free e-book,
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