How to Go Off Topic in English | English Conversation Skills

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ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

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Let's talk about the art of going off topic in English conversation.
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่‹ฑไผš่ฉฑใง่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’้€ธใ‚‰ใ™ใ‚ณใƒ„ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
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I know that's a bit unusual. If, for example,
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅฐ‘ใ—็ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใงใฎใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นไผš่ญฐใฎ้€ฒใ‚ๆ–นใชใฉใ€
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you've watched any of my previous lessons on conversations such as how to lead
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็งใฎใ“ใ‚Œใพใงใฎไผš่ฉฑใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใ‚’ใ”่ฆงใซใชใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ–นใชใ‚‰ใ€็งใŒ
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a business meeting in English,
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then you know I typically recommend that you avoid going off
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้€šๅธธใ€ๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰ ๅค–ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆŽจๅฅจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
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topic. Quite often when someone goes off topic,
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ใ€‚ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจใ€
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it can be perceived as disruptive,
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆททไนฑใ‚’ๆ‹›ใใ‚‚ใฎใจใ—ใฆ่ช่ญ˜ใ•ใ‚Œใ€
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indicate a lack of focus and even create confusion,
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้›†ไธญๅŠ›ใฎๆฌ ๅฆ‚ใ‚’็คบใ— ใ€ๆททไนฑใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ™ใ“ใจใ•ใˆใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
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but life is full of surprises and sometimes a
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ไบบ็”Ÿใฏ้ฉšใใซๆบ€ใกใฆใŠใ‚Š ใ€ๆ™‚ใซใฏ
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sudden reminder or a spark of memory can lead us down a different
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็ช็„ถใฎๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ‚„ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใฎใฒใ‚‰ใ‚ใใŒใ€ ็งใŸใกใ‚’ๅˆฅใฎ้“ใซๅฐŽใ„ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
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path in our conversations.
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ไผš่ฉฑใ€‚
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That means that knowing when and how to appropriately go off topic
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ„ใคใ€ ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ้ฉๅˆ‡ใซ่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’้€ธใ‚‰ใ™ใ‹ใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€่‹ฑไผš่ฉฑใ‚„่‹ฑ่ชžใงใฎใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นไผš่ญฐ
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is so important for your English conversations and your business meetings in
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ใซใŠใ„ใฆ้žๅธธใซ้‡่ฆใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™
00:51
English. When the timing and relevance are just right,
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ใ€‚ ใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒŸใƒณใ‚ฐใจ ้–ข้€ฃๆ€งใŒ้ฉๅˆ‡ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€
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it's perfectly okay to go off topic in a conversation.
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ไผš่ฉฑใฎไธญใง่ฉฑ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰ๅค–ใ‚Œใฆใ‚‚ๅ…จใๅ•้กŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
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In fact, when it's done right,
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๆญฃใ—ใ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚Œใฐใ€ไผš่ฉฑใซ
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it can create depth and interest in a conversation.
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ๆทฑใฟใจ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’็”Ÿใฟๅ‡บใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ๅ•้กŒ่งฃๆฑบ
01:07
It can also spark creativity in problem solving, for example.
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ใซใŠใ„ใฆๅ‰ต้€ ๆ€งใ‚’ๅˆบๆฟ€ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚
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So today that's what we're going to do.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ„ใค
01:13
I'm going to help you know exactly how and when to go off topic
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ใ€ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใŒ
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the right way. We'll explore, for example,
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ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆญฃ็ขบใซ็Ÿฅใ‚‹ใŠๆ‰‹ไผใ„ใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
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how to interrupt and go off topic gracefully when you're in the moment of a
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ไผš่ฉฑใฎ้€”ไธญใงใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’
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conversation and you just remember something or something pops up that you
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ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€็„ก่ฆ–ใงใใชใ„ ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๆตฎใ‹ใ‚“ใ ใจใใซใ€ไธญๆ–ญใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’ใใฃใจ้€ธใ‚‰ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’ๆคœ่จŽใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
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can't ignore in order to avoid being perceived as disruptive or
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rude.
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01:37
It's all about the relevance and relatability of the off
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ๅคฑ็คผใ€‚ ้‡่ฆใชใฎใฏใ€่ฉฑ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰
ๅค–ใ‚ŒใŸไธญๆ–ญใฎ้–ข้€ฃๆ€งใจ้–ข้€ฃๆ€งใ€
01:43
topic interruption as well as the phrases that you use to do it.
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ใใ—ใฆ ไธญๆ–ญใซไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใงใ™ใ€‚
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We're going to explore all of that and more in this lesson today.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใ“ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใงใฏใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใจใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ชฟในใฆใ„ใใพใ™ใ€‚
02:04
Now, before we go any further, if this is your first time here, welcome.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ๅ…ˆใซ้€ฒใ‚€ๅ‰ใซใ€ ใ“ใ“ใซๅˆใ‚ใฆๆฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๆ–นใฏใ€ใ‚ˆใ†ใ“ใใ€‚
02:08
I am Annemarie, an English confidence and fluency coach.
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็งใฏ่‹ฑ่ชžใฎ ่‡ชไฟกใจๆตๆšขใ•ใฎใ‚ณใƒผใƒใฎใ‚ขใƒณใƒใƒžใƒชใƒผใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŒใ‚„ใฃใฆ
02:12
Everything I do is designed to help you get the confidence you want for your
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life and work in English.
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่‹ฑ่ชžใงใฎ็”Ÿๆดปใ‚„ไป•ไบ‹ใซ่‡ชไฟกใ‚’ๆŒใฆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใ‚ตใƒใƒผใƒˆใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็›ฎ็š„ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŒไฝ•
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ๅนดใซใ‚‚ใ‚ใŸใฃใฆใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใ—ใฆใใŸ ๅ†…ๅฎนใ‚„ใ€ใ€Œ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ†่‡ชไฟกใ‚’
02:23
resources such as my in-depth English fluency training called How to Get the
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ๅพ—ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใ€ใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅพนๅบ•็š„ใช่‹ฑ่ชžๆตๆšขใ•ใƒˆใƒฌใƒผใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐใชใฉใฎ็„กๆ–™ใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚นใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚ŠใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏ
02:28
Confidence to Say What You Want,
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you can find all of that and more over at my Speak Confident English website.
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ใ‚„ใใฎไป–ใฎๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’ ็งใฎใ€Œ่‡ชไฟกใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆ่‹ฑ่ชžใง่ฉฑใ™ใ€ใง่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ Webใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใ€‚
02:35
Alright, before we get started,
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ใ•ใฆใ€ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ†…ๅฎน
02:36
I want to give you a quick snapshot of everything we're going to discuss today.
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ใฎๆฆ‚่ฆใ‚’็ฐกๅ˜ใซ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
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First,
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we'll talk about when it is appropriate to go off topic in a conversation
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ใพใšใ€
ไผš่ฉฑใง่ฉฑ้กŒใŒ้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใŒ้ฉๅˆ‡ใชๅ ดๅˆ
02:46
and what should you consider when you're evaluating whether that
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ใจใ€ ใใฎ
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particular time is the right time.
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็‰นๅฎšใฎๆ™‚้–“ใŒ้ฉๅˆ‡ใชใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒŸใƒณใ‚ฐใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚’่ฉ•ไพกใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใซไฝ•ใ‚’่€ƒๆ…ฎใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
02:54
Then I'm going to briefly introduce you to four strategies English speakers
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ๆฌกใซใ€ ่‹ฑ่ชž่ฉฑ่€…ใŒ
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use are for formulas that they use when they're going to introduce
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their off topic, topic and phrases you'll typically hear as well.
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ใ‚ชใƒ•ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ ใŠใ‚ˆใณใ‚ˆใ่žใใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใ‚’็ดนไป‹ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใซไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๅ…ฌๅผใจใ—ใฆไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ 4 ใคใฎๆˆฆ็•ฅใ‚’็ฐกๅ˜ใซ็ดนไป‹ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
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Once we've reviewed all of that,
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใ‚’็ขบ่ชใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎไธป่ฆใชใ‚ณใƒณใƒใƒผใƒใƒณใƒˆใฎใใ‚Œใžใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹
03:11
I'm going to share four every day or real life scenarios with you that
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4 ใคใฎๆ—ฅๅธธ ใพใŸใฏ็พๅฎŸ็”Ÿๆดปใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใพใ™
03:16
illustrates each of these key components. So first,
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ใ€‚ ใพใšใ€
03:21
when can you or should you go off topic,
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ใ„ใคๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ในใใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใŒใ€
03:25
it can be appropriate to interrupt and go off topic when for example,
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹็‰นๅฎšใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆไผš่ฉฑใŒ้•ทใ™ใŽใŸๅ ดๅˆใซใฏใ€่ฉฑใ‚’ไธญๆ–ญใ—ใฆๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ้ฉๅˆ‡ใชๅ ดๅˆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
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a conversation has gone on far too long about one particular topic.
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03:35
If for example,
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
03:36
you have an agenda for a meeting and the team has been stuck
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ไผš่ญฐใฎ่ญฐ้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€ใƒใƒผใƒ ใŒ
03:41
on one particular issue for far too long,
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1 ใคใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ•้กŒใซใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚้•ทใ„้–“่กŒใ่ฉฐใพใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€
03:44
you're nowhere near making a decision and you have other things you need to get
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ๆฑบๅฎšใซใฏ็จ‹้ ใ„ใ€ ใใ—ใฆใใฎๆ—ฅใซ้”ๆˆใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใŒไป–ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏ
03:48
to that day, it might be a moment to interrupt,
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ใ€ๆฌกใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฐ‘ใ—่ฉฑใ‚’ไธญๆ–ญใ—ใ€
03:51
go off topic and find a time to return to that particular issue later.
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ๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใฆใ€ ๅพŒใงใใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ•้กŒใซๆˆปใ‚‹ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
03:57
It may also be appropriate to go off topic if you're not interested in the
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ใพใŸใ€็พๅœจ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏ ใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆใ€
04:02
topic being discussed at the moment or if you're unfamiliar with the topic.
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04:06
Perhaps you want to share something that you've just remembered or you want
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04:11
to share something important before you forget.
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04:15
If there is an awkward pause or silence in the conversation,
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ไผš่ฉฑไธญใซๆฐ—ใพใšใ„ๆฒˆ้ป™ใ‚„ๆฒˆ้ป™ใŒใ‚ใฃใŸๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ใ€
04:19
that also is a great opportunity to take the conversation in another direction.
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04:24
And finally,
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04:25
if your conversation has hit a dead end and it seems like there's nothing else
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ไผš่ฉฑใŒ่กŒใ่ฉฐใพใ‚Š ใ€ใใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใซใคใ„ใฆไป–ใซ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใง
04:29
to say on that particular topic, again, it's a great time to switch.
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ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ๅˆ‡ใ‚Šๆ›ฟใˆใ‚‹ใฎใซๆœ€้ฉใชๆ™‚ๆœŸใงใ™ใ€‚
04:34
If you are in any of those circumstances and you're considering an interruption
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช็Šถๆณใซ้™ฅใฃใฆใ„ใฆ ใ€
04:39
so that you can go off topic,
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ๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไธญๆ–ญใ‚’ๆคœ่จŽใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€
04:41
here are a few things to think about before you take the plunge to do it.
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04:46
First,
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04:47
consider whether the topic you want to change to is appropriate for that
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04:52
particular individual and that particular environment. If for example,
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็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ€‹ไบบใŠใ‚ˆใณ ็‰นๅฎšใฎ็’ฐๅขƒใซ้ฉๅˆ‡ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚’ๆคœ่จŽใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
04:56
you're chatting with coworkers at work,
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่ทๅ ดใงๅŒๅƒšใจไผš่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ๆ”ฟๆฒปใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’ๆŒใกๅ‡บใ™ใฎใฏ
04:59
it may not be an appropriate context to bring up the topic of politics.
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้ฉๅˆ‡ใชๆ–‡่„ˆใงใฏใชใ„ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
05:03
For example,
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05:05
a second consideration is whether the person speaking at that moment
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05:10
is sharing something vulnerable or heartfelt. If so,
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ไฝ•ใ‹ ๅ‚ทใคใใ‚„ใ™ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚„ๅฟƒใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใ—ใใ†ใชใ‚‰ใ€
05:15
interrupting at that moment and aiming to take the conversation in another
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ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซ่ฉฑใ‚’ไธญๆ–ญใ—ใ€ ไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๅ‘ใซๆŒใก่พผใ‚‚ใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€
05:19
direction would be viewed as insensitive and inconsiderate.
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05:24
A third consideration is group expectations.
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05:28
If for example, you're in a meeting or a class,
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05:32
there may be specific goals for that group discussion and it may not be
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05:37
appropriate to shift the entire conversation to a new topic. And finally,
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ๅ…จไฝ“ใ‚’ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซ็งปใ™ใฎใฏ้ฉๅˆ‡ใงใฏใชใ„ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆๆœ€ๅพŒใซใ€
05:41
the last consideration is maintaining balance.
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05:45
If someone veers off topic too often,
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚้ ป็นใซ่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’้€ธใ‚‰ใ™ใจใ€
05:48
it can result in others feeling unheard. With all of that in mind,
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05:53
here are four strategies or approaches you can use when you're ready to
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05:58
go off topic. First,
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06:00
you could acknowledge the current speaker's thoughts and then introduce your
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06:04
topic. Second,
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06:06
you could apologize for the sudden shift and then introduce the topic.
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06:11
Third, you could signal a change,
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06:14
give a compliment to the speaker and then ask a related question.
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็™บ่จ€่€…ใ‚’่ค’ใ‚ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ้–ข้€ฃใ™ใ‚‹่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
06:18
And fourth, simply change the topic.
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06:21
We're going to take a look at how to use each one of those in a real life
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06:25
scenario in just a moment,
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06:27
but first I want to share a quick tip with you and some common phrases we use to
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06:31
help us introduce an off topic issue.
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06:35
So that quick tip,
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06:37
it is always best if possible to avoid directly
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06:41
interrupting someone in the moment of speaking.
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒ ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹็žฌ้–“ใซ็›ดๆŽฅไธญๆ–ญใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใ‚Œใฐ้ฟใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๆœ€ๅ–„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆ
06:44
If you can try to wait for a natural pause in the conversation,
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06:49
even if it's only two or three seconds long,
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06:51
this is an ideal opportunity to interject and signal that you're going to
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06:56
change to a new topic. If you cannot,
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07:00
if you have to interrupt in the moment,
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07:02
try to use body language first to indicate the interruption.
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ใพใšใƒœใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒฉใƒณใ‚ฒใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆ ไธญๆ–ญใ‚’็คบใ™ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
07:06
Body language could include leaning forward,
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07:10
making eye contact or giving some kind of a hand signal to let someone know
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07:14
that you're about to interrupt.
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07:17
And now let's take a quick look at a few example phrases English speakers use
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07:21
when they're ready to take the conversation onto another topic.
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ไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ๅˆฅใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซ็งปใ™ๆบ–ๅ‚™ใŒใงใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใซไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใฎไพ‹ใ‚’ใ„ใใคใ‹่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
07:25
Now here I'm just going to introduce three or four phrases to you. However,
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใ“ใ“ใง 3 ๏ฝž 4 ใคใฎใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใ‚’็ดนไป‹ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใ ใ—ใ€
07:30
if you want a longer list,
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07:31
you can visit this lesson at my Speak Confident English website where I've got
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็งใฎ Speak Confident English Web ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใงใ“ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใใ“
07:35
several more examples for you. So first,
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ใซใฏใ•ใ‚‰ใซใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎไพ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใพใšใ€
07:39
a common phrase you could use is, I know this is a bit off topic, but,
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ไฝฟ็”จใงใใ‚‹ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใฏใ€ใ€Œ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๅฐ‘ใ—่ฉฑใŒ้€ธใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏๆ‰ฟ็Ÿฅใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
07:44
and then introduce your question or comment or
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07:49
sorry to cut you off, but I just remembered.
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ไธญๆ–ญใ—ใฆ็”ณใ—่จณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ไปŠ ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใงใ™ใ€‚
07:52
And then that key topic or issue that is important to mention
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ใใ—ใฆใ€
07:57
at this particular moment.
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ใ“ใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎ็žฌ้–“ใซ่จ€ๅŠใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ้‡่ฆใช้‡่ฆใชใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใพใŸใฏๅ•้กŒใงใ™ใ€‚
07:59
A third example and similar to remembering something in the moment is, oh,
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3 ็•ช็›ฎใฎไพ‹ใฏใ€็žฌ้–“็š„ใซไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ™ใฎใจไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ ใ€ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€
08:04
by the way,
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08:05
did I tell you about and then insert the story or information you
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08:10
want to share. And the last option here is,
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ใ€‚ ๆœ€ๅพŒใฎใ‚ชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฏใ€
08:13
this is totally unrelated, but and again,
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ใ“ใ‚ŒใฏใพใฃใŸใ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆ
08:17
insert your comment or question,
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ใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆใพใŸใฏ่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ๆŒฟๅ…ฅใ—ใฆใ€
08:19
let's put all of that together in four real world scenarios.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใ‚’ 4 ใคใฎ็พๅฎŸไธ–็•Œใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใซใพใจใ‚ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
08:23
Each one is going to address one of those strategies or approaches we talked
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ใใ‚Œใžใ‚ŒใŒใ€ๅ…ˆใปใฉ ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใŸๆˆฆ็•ฅใพใŸใฏใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใฎ 1 ใคใซๅฏพๅ‡ฆใ—ใพใ™
08:28
about earlier. In the first scenario,
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ใ€‚ ๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใงใฏใ€
08:31
we're going to look at how we can acknowledge what was said and then go off
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่จ€ใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่ชใ‚ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰
08:35
topic.
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ๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’ๆคœ่จŽใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:36
This strategy is particularly useful when an individual or a group of people
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ใ“ใฎๆˆฆ็•ฅใฏใ€ ๅ€‹ไบบใพใŸใฏใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใŒ
08:41
have been discussing a topic at length and they seem very interested in the
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ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซใคใ„ใฆ้•ทๆ™‚้–“่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Š ใ€ใใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซ้žๅธธใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใซ็‰นใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ€‚
08:45
topic.
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08:46
It's also useful when someone has been sharing something that is vulnerable or
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ใพใŸใ€่ชฐใ‹ใŒ ๅ‚ทใคใใ‚„ใ™ใ„ใ“ใจใ‚„
08:51
heartfelt and you're not really sure if it's appropriate to go off topic.
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ๅฟƒใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ€่ฉฑ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใŒ้ฉๅˆ‡ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจใใซใ‚‚ๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ ใ€‚
08:56
In both of these circumstances,
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08:58
it's always best to avoid directly interrupting a speaker and instead
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่ฉฑ่€…ใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’็›ดๆŽฅ้ฎใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ้ฟใ‘ใ€ไผš่ฉฑใŒ
09:03
wait until there's a natural pause in the conversation. At that moment,
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่‡ช็„ถใซๆญขใพใ‚‹ใพใงๅพ…ใคใ“ใจใŒๅธธใซๆœ€ๅ–„ใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใใฎ็žฌ้–“ใ€
09:07
you can acknowledge what has been said and then gently shift the direction of
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่จ€ใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่ชใ‚ใฆใ€ไผš่ฉฑ ใฎๆ–นๅ‘ใ‚’ใใฃใจๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
09:12
the conversation.
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09:14
I want you to imagine for a moment a friend of yours is experiencing some real
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ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ‹ไบบใŒ
09:18
challenges at work and she's been highlighting these difficulties,
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ไป•ไบ‹ใงๅคงใใชๅ›ฐ้›ฃใซ็›ด้ขใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ ใใฎๅ›ฐ้›ฃใ‚’ๅผท่ชฟใ—ใฆ
09:22
sharing her frustrations with you. After a while,
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ไธๆบ€ใ‚’ ใ‚ใชใŸใจๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€
09:26
you may feel that you want to take the conversation into another direction and
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ไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๅ‘ใซๆŒใฃใฆ่กŒใใ€
09:30
lighten the mood. Here's how that might happen. First,
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้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใ‚’ๆ˜Žใ‚‹ใใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏๆฌกใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใพใšใ€
09:34
your friend might say, I used to love working there,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ‹ไบบใฏใ€ใ€Œ็งใฏๆ˜”ใฏ ใใ“ใงๅƒใใฎใŒๅฅฝใใ ใฃใŸ
09:38
but with my current workload,
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ใŒใ€็พๅœจใฎไป•ไบ‹้‡ใงใฏ
09:40
I just can't take the time to also train a new person.
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ๆ–ฐไบบใฎใƒˆใƒฌใƒผใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐใซใ‚‚ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ๅ‰ฒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆœˆๆ›œๆ—ฅ
09:44
I need to speak with my manager on Monday. After a brief moment of silence,
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ใซใƒžใƒใƒผใ‚ธใƒฃใƒผใจ่ฉฑใ™ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ็Ÿญใ„ๆฒˆ้ป™ใฎๅพŒใ€
09:48
you might respond to your friend with this.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅ‹ไบบใซใ“ใ†็ญ”ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
09:51
That's definitely frustrating and I think sharing that with your manager is the
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ—ใพใ™ใ—ใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒžใƒใƒผใ‚ธใƒฃใƒผใซๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒ
09:55
right step. Let me know how it goes. Speaking of work,
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ๆญฃใ—ใ„ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒƒใƒ—ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๆง˜ๅญใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚ ใŠไป•ไบ‹ใฎ่ฉฑใงใ™ใŒใ€
09:59
did you hear about Jessica from middle school?
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ใ‚ธใ‚งใ‚ทใ‚ซใฎใ“ใจใฏไธญๅญฆ็”Ÿใฎ้ ƒใ‹ใ‚‰่žใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‹ ๏ผŸ
10:02
She joined my company as the new sales manager. In that example,
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅ–ถๆฅญใƒžใƒใƒผใ‚ธใƒฃใƒผใจใ—ใฆ็งใฎไผš็คพใซๅ…ฅ็คพใ—ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใ“ใฎไพ‹ใงใฏใ€
10:06
you've taken a moment to acknowledge what your friend has shared with you and
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ๅ‹ไบบใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่ชใ‚ใ€
10:10
you've validated her frustration,
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฎไธๆบ€ใ‚’่ชใ‚ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:12
and then there were a few key words there. Speaking of work,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ“ใซใฏใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใ‚ญใƒผใƒฏใƒผใƒ‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ไป•ไบ‹ใจใ„ใˆใฐใ€
10:17
this is your connecting phrase.
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ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒใคใชใŽ่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
10:19
It helps you make that transition from what your friend shared to the new topic
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ ๅ‹ไบบใŒๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใŸๅ†…ๅฎนใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„
10:24
of conversation.
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ไผš่ฉฑใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซ็งป่กŒใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ€‚
10:26
And now the second strategy or approach is to first apologize and
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ใใ—ใฆ 2 ็•ช็›ฎใฎๆˆฆ็•ฅใพใŸใฏ ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใฏใ€ใพใš่ฌ็ฝชใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰
10:31
then go off topic.
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10:33
This approach is best used when you do need to interrupt someone in the middle
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใฏใ€ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹้€”ไธญใงไธญๆ–ญใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใซๆœ€้ฉใงใ™
10:37
of speaking. For example,
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ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
10:39
if something important pops up and you cannot ignore it,
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ไฝ•ใ‹้‡่ฆใชใ“ใจใŒๆตฎใ‹ใ‚“ ใงใใฆ็„ก่ฆ–ใงใใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆใ€
10:42
or if you immediately remember something and you want to mention it
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ใพใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ใ™ใใซๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใฆ
10:47
before you forget it. For this scenario,
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ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใชใฉใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใงใฏใ€
10:50
I want you to imagine you're in a team meeting and on the agenda for that
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใƒใƒผใƒ  ไผš่ญฐใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ใใฎไผš่ญฐใฎ่ญฐ้กŒใซใฏใ€
10:54
meeting is some discussion about where everyone is towards some
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10:59
specific annual goals.
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ๅนด้–“็›ฎๆจ™ใซๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ–นๅ‘ใซ้€ฒใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใฎใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚นใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใŒๅซใพใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
11:01
While everyone is discussing that you in the moment,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ ไปŠๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅบƒๅ‘Šใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒšใƒผใƒณ
11:06
remember an important task related to a new ad campaign that you've been working
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ใซ้–ข้€ฃใ™ใ‚‹้‡่ฆใชใ‚ฟใ‚นใ‚ฏใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใฆใ€
11:09
on and you want to bring it up immediately before you forget,
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ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ†ใกใซใ™ใใซๅ–ใ‚ŠไธŠใ’ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ€
11:14
here's what that might sound like.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆฌกใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่žใ“ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
11:16
A coworker might be in the middle of speaking with this.
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ๅŒๅƒšใŒ ใ“ใ‚Œใจ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆœ€ไธญใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
11:21
I also think we can revisit the qualities and needs we envision in our target
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ใพใŸใ€ใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚ฒใƒƒใƒˆใจใ™ใ‚‹้กงๅฎขใฎ่ณ‡่ณชใ‚„ใƒ‹ใƒผใ‚บใ‚’ๅ†่€ƒใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
11:26
customers. This will give us ideas for shifting our marketing and website copy.
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ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใซใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ€ ใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใจใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒ–ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใฎใ‚ณใƒ”ใƒผใ‚’ๅค‰ๆ›ดใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ฉฑใ‚’้ฎใฃใฆ
11:31
And then you jump in. I'm sorry to cut you off,
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็”ณใ—่จณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
11:34
but this reminded me of the new ad campaign our team is developing.
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ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใ€ ็งใŸใกใฎใƒใƒผใƒ ใŒ้–‹็™บไธญใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅบƒๅ‘Šใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒšใƒผใƒณใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
11:38
Could we please carve out some time in today's meeting to discuss that as well?
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎไผš่ญฐใงใใฎใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚่ญฐ่ซ–ใ™ใ‚‹ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่จญใ‘ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
11:43
As you can see in this example,
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ใ“ใฎไพ‹ใงใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไธญๆ–ญ
11:44
there's a brief apology for the interruption and then the speaker
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ใซใคใ„ใฆ็ฐกๅ˜ใช่ฌ็ฝชใŒใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€ใใฎๅพŒใ€่ฉฑ่€…ใŒ
11:49
introduces the off topic issue. Now,
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ๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰ๅค–ใ‚ŒใŸๅ•้กŒใ‚’็ดนไป‹ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ•ใฆใ€
11:53
also important here is that rather than immediately jump into that other
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ใ“ใ“ใงใพใŸ้‡่ฆใชใ“ใจใฏใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ใ™ใใซๅˆฅใฎ่ญฐ้กŒใซ้ฃ›ใณ่พผใ‚€ใฎใงใฏใชใ
11:57
topic,
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11:58
they've simply asked for the opportunity to discuss that at some later
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ๅ˜ใซไปŠๆ—ฅใฎไผš่ญฐใฎๅพŒๅŠใฎๆ™‚็‚นใงใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ๅˆใ†ๆฉŸไผšใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™
12:03
point in the meeting today.
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12:05
Our third approach for going off topic is to first signal that you're going
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่ฉฑ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎ 3 ็•ช็›ฎใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใฏใ€ ใพใšไผš่ฉฑใฎๆ–นๅ‘ใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็คบใ—
12:10
to change the direction of the conversation,
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12:12
then compliment what has been said previously and then
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ๆฌกใซๅ‰ใซ่ฉฑใ—ใŸๅ†…ๅฎนใ‚’่ค’ใ‚
12:17
go ahead and move into the new topic of conversation.
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ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ไผš่ฉฑใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใซ็งปใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
12:21
This approach works well when if for example,
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใฏใ€ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
12:24
a particular topic of conversation has gone on for too long or if
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็‰นๅฎšใฎไผš่ฉฑใฎใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใŒ ้•ทใ™ใŽใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใพใŸใฏใใฎ
12:30
you're not interested in a topic or feel that you don't know enough about a
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ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใชใ„ใ‹ใ€ไผš่ฉฑใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใปใฉใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏ ใซใคใ„ใฆๅๅˆ†ใช็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ใŒใชใ„ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใซๅŠนๆžœ็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:34
topic to participate in the conversation. If that's the case,
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ใใฎๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€
12:39
then again you'll want to wait for a moment of silence before interrupting and
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ไธญๆ–ญใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซๆฒˆ้ป™ใฎ็žฌ้–“ใ‚’ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€
12:44
then follow this approach. Signal compliment go off topic.
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใซๅพ“ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ค’ใ‚่จ€่‘‰ใฏ่ฉฑ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
12:49
We're going to take a look at two different scenarios for this one,
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใงใฏ 2 ใคใฎ็•ฐใชใ‚‹ใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใใพใ™ใ€‚
12:53
and in the first one I want you to imagine that you're at a networking event.
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ๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใงใฏใ€ ใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒฏใƒผใ‚ญใƒณใ‚ฐ ใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
12:56
You've met someone new and they're telling you a bit about their background,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ไบบใซไผšใ„ใ€ใใฎไบบใŒ่‡ชๅˆ† ใฎ่ƒŒๆ™ฏใ‚„ๅฐ‚้–€ๅˆ†้‡Žใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—่ฉฑใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸ
13:00
their area of expertise. However,
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ใ€‚ ใจใฏใ„ใˆใ€
13:03
it's an area that you don't know very much about.
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ใ‚ใพใ‚Š็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ„ๅˆ†้‡Žใงใ™ใ€‚
13:06
You don't feel well versed in that particular topic,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ใใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚ใพใ‚Š่ฉณใ—ใใชใ„ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€
13:10
so when there's a brief pause in the conversation,
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ไผš่ฉฑใŒๅฐ‘ใ—ๆญขใพใฃใŸใจใใซใ€
13:12
you might use it as an opportunity to address something they said earlier
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฉŸไผšใจใ—ใฆ็›ธๆ‰‹ใŒ ไปฅๅ‰่จ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใซ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใ€
13:17
and allow the conversation to go in another direction.
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ไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๅ‘ใซ้€ฒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
13:21
Here's what that would sound like.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆฌกใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
13:23
Let's say that your acquaintance has just said this,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ ็ŸฅไบบใŒใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่จ€ใฃใŸใจใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:27
although it's important to emphasize a better user experience,
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ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ใƒฆใƒผใ‚ถใƒผ ใ‚จใ‚ฏใ‚นใƒšใƒชใ‚จใƒณใ‚นใ‚’ๅผท่ชฟใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ้‡่ฆใงใ™ใŒใ€
13:30
sometimes I prioritize the user interface,
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็งใฏใƒฆใƒผใ‚ถใƒผ ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ•ใ‚งใ‚คใ‚นใ‚’ๅ„ชๅ…ˆใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
13:33
good design can ultimately reduce potential problems,
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ๅ„ชใ‚ŒใŸใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใฏๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซ ๆฝœๅœจ็š„ใชๅ•้กŒใ‚’ๆธ›ใ‚‰ใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
13:37
and I love thinking about design options. Again,
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็งใฏใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใฎใ‚ชใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ ใ€‚ ็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€
13:40
you don't feel particularly familiar with this area,
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ใ“ใฎๅˆ†้‡Žใซใคใ„ใฆใฏ็‰นใซ้ฆดๆŸ“ใฟใŒใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹
13:43
so here's how you would go off topic. I know this is slightly off topic,
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ใŸใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ“ใง่ฉฑใŒ้€ธใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฐ‘ใ—่ฉฑใŒ้€ธใ‚ŒใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
13:48
but could I ask you something?
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ใŒใ€ไธ€ใค่žใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ‚ใ—ใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
13:50
While I'm not an expert on user experience like you are,
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็งใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใƒฆใƒผใ‚ถใƒผใ‚จใ‚ฏใ‚นใƒšใƒชใ‚จใƒณใ‚นใฎๅฐ‚้–€ๅฎถใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
13:54
I appreciate your focus on design.
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ใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใซ็„ฆ็‚นใ‚’ๅฝ“ใฆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ฆ‹ใŸ็›ฎ
13:56
What designs do you find both aesthetically pleasing and practical?
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ใ‚‚ ็พŽใ—ใๅฎŸ็”จ็š„ใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
14:00
I love anything minimalistic.
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็งใฏใƒŸใƒ‹ใƒžใƒซใชใ‚‚ใฎใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
14:03
Do you see here how first we've signaled that we're going off topic,
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ใ“ใ“ใงใ€็งใŸใกใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆๆœ€ๅˆใซ ๆœฌ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰้€ธใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็คบใ—ใ€
14:07
then we've referred back to and complimented something that was said earlier
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ๆฌกใซ ไปฅๅ‰ใซ่ฉฑใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅ†…ๅฎนใซๆˆปใฃใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใŸใ‚Š่ค’ใ‚ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ€ไผš่ฉฑใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„็„ฆ็‚นใซ
14:12
and allowed that to help us transition into a new focus of the conversation.
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็งป่กŒใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹ ใ€‚
14:17
And now let's take a look at how we would use this same approach and a far more
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ๆฌกใซใ€ ใ“ใ‚ŒใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใ‚’ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š
14:22
casual event. For example,
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14:25
maybe you're at someone's party and you've just met someone new in the
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่ชฐใ‹ใฎใƒ‘ใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใซใ„ใฆใ€ไผš่ฉฑ ใฎไธญใงๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ไบบใจๅ‡บไผšใฃใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใง
14:29
conversation,
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14:30
they're doing a lot of talking about their kids and you don't have kids,
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅญไพ›ใฎ่ฉฑใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใฆ ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใซใฏๅญไพ›ใŒใ„ใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใใฎใ“ใจ
14:34
so you can't really relate to that topic of conversation.
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ใซใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅ…ฑๆ„Ÿใงใใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ไผš่ฉฑใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใ€‚ ๅˆฅใฎ
14:38
You'd love to shift the focus to something else. Here's how you could do that.
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ใ“ใจใซ็„ฆ็‚นใ‚’็งปใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚ ใใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใฏๆฌกใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
14:43
First, let's imagine someone says, my kids love to watch.
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ใพใšใ€่ชฐใ‹ใŒใ€Œ ็งใฎๅญไพ›ใŸใกใฏ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใ ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใจๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
14:48
If you could give a mouse a cookie, it's their favorite show,
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ใญใšใฟใซใ‚ฏใƒƒใ‚ญใƒผใ‚’ใ‚ใ’ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใŸใ‚‰ ใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏใญใšใฟใฎใŠๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใฎ็•ช็ต„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ€Œ
14:52
and then you could respond with, sorry, this is totally unrelated,
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ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใพใฃใŸใ้–ขไฟ‚ใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™
14:56
but I love the dress you're wearing.
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ใŒใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็€ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒ‰ใƒฌใ‚นใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€ใจ็ญ”ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
14:58
It reminds me of the one Keira Knightly wore in atonement.
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ใ‚ญใƒผใƒฉใƒป ใƒŠใ‚คใƒˆใƒชใƒผใŒๅ„Ÿใ„ใฎๆ™‚ใซ็€ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
15:01
Have you watched that movie again?
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใใฎๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
15:03
You can see here that we've started with that signal.
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ใ“ใ“ใงใ€ ใใฎๅˆๅ›ณใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใพใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
15:06
We're signaling that we want to take the conversation in another direction.
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็งใŸใกใฏ ไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๅ‘ใซ้€ฒใ‚ใŸใ„ใจใ„ใ†ๅˆๅ›ณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
15:10
We've inserted a compliment and moved on to a new topic. Now,
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่ค’ใ‚่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’ๆŒฟๅ…ฅใ—ใฆใ€ ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซ็งปใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ•ใฆใ€
15:15
the one thing I will say about this approach is the compliment you give,
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใซใคใ„ใฆ็งใŒ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒไธŽใˆใ‚‹่ค’ใ‚่จ€่‘‰ใฏใ€
15:19
whether it's professional or casual, must be genuine.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใƒ—ใƒญใงใ‚ใ‚ใ† ใจใ‚ซใ‚ธใƒฅใ‚ขใƒซใงใ‚ใ‚ใ†ใจใ€ๆœฌ็‰ฉใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
15:24
People know when you're saying something just to say it.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใŸใ ่จ€ใ†ใŸใ‚ใซไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
15:29
So if you're going to use this approach,
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ไธŽใˆใŸใ„
15:31
make sure that the compliment you want to give is a real compliment.
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่ค’ใ‚่จ€่‘‰ใŒๆœฌ็‰ฉใฎ่ค’ใ‚่จ€่‘‰ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็ขบ่ชใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚
15:36
It's a genuine compliment.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌ็‰ฉใฎ่ค’ใ‚่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
15:38
And now the fourth and final approach is to simply change the topic.
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ใใ—ใฆๆœ€ๅพŒใฎ 4 ็•ช็›ฎใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒใฏใ€ ๅ˜็ด”ใซใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
15:43
This is always best when there is a natural lull,
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ไผš่ฉฑใซ ่‡ช็„ถใช้™ใ‘ใ•ใ€
15:47
a natural moment of pause in the conversation. For example,
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่‡ช็„ถใชไธ€ๆ™‚ๅœๆญขใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใใซๅธธใซๆœ€้ฉใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
15:51
maybe everyone says what they wanted to say and then it's just kind of quiet.
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ใฟใ‚“ใชใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใฃใŸ ๅพŒใฏใ€ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‹้™ใ‹ใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:55
The topic maybe has come to a dead end.
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ใ“ใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใฏ่กŒใ่ฉฐใพใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
15:58
That's the moment when you can simply insert something new.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ ๅ˜ใซๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆŒฟๅ…ฅใงใใ‚‹็žฌ้–“ใงใ™ใ€‚
16:02
We still have some connector phrases.
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ใพใ ๆŽฅ็ถšใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใŒใ„ใใคใ‹ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
16:05
We always want to have a smooth transition from one thing to another,
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็งใŸใกใฏๅธธใซใ€ ใ‚ใ‚‹ไบ‹ๆŸ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅˆฅใฎไบ‹ๆŸ„ใธใ‚นใƒ ใƒผใ‚บใซ็งป่กŒใ—ใŸใ„ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:09
and you'll see that in action. Here again,
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใใ‚ŒใŒๅฎŸ็พใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ“ใงใ‚‚
16:11
we're gonna take a look at two different scenarios, and for this first one,
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2 ใคใฎ็•ฐใชใ‚‹ ใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใใพใ™ใ€‚ๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใงใฏใ€ๅญไพ›ใฎๅญฆๆ กใงไป–ใฎไฟ่ญท่€…ใจใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ—ใŸไธ–้–“่ฉฑใ‚’
16:15
I want you to imagine that you're doing a bit of small talk with a fellow parent
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ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„
16:20
at your child's school. You're both there to pick up your kids.
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ใ€‚ ไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚ๅญไพ›ใ‚’่ฟŽใˆใซๆฅใฆใ‚‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ€‚
16:24
Some small talk has started and then there's a bit of an awkward silence.
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ไธ–้–“่ฉฑใŒๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใ€ ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆฐ—ใพใšใ„ๆฒˆ้ป™ใŒ็ถšใใ€‚
16:29
Let's imagine this first, the other parent says,
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ใพใšใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€ ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๆ–นใฎ่ฆชใฏใ€ใ“ใฎๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใจ
16:34
we'll have to see how the year goes with this teacher. Like you said,
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ไปŠๅนดใŒใฉใ†ใชใ‚‹ใ‹่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
16:37
she seems rather nice,
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Šใ„ใ„ไบบใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹
16:39
and then there's kind of a weird long silence when that happens.
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ใจใ€ๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใช้•ทใ„ๆฒˆ้ป™ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ€Œ
16:44
You could change the topic by saying, oh, in other news,
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ไป–ใฎใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใงใ€
16:48
did you hear about the recall on those fruity yogurt packs?
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ใ‚ใฎใƒ•ใƒซใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใชใƒจใƒผใ‚ฐใƒซใƒˆใฎใƒ‘ใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎใƒชใ‚ณใƒผใƒซใซใคใ„ใฆ่žใใพใ—ใŸใ‹?ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆ่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
16:51
My kids live on those. Luckily,
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็งใฎๅญไพ›ใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใง็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅนธใ„ใชใ“ใจใซใ€
16:54
I found out about the recall just before my grocery run. Yesterday.
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็งใฏ ้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ๅบ—ใซ่กŒใ็›ดๅ‰ใซใƒชใ‚ณใƒผใƒซใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๆ˜จๆ—ฅใ€‚
16:58
Here we used the phrase, oh,
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ใ“ใ“ใงใฏใ€ใƒˆใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ‚’็คบใ™ๆ–นๆณ•ใจใ—ใฆใ€ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ไป–ใฎใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใงใฏใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
17:01
in other news as a way to signal a shift in the topic.
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17:05
And finally, here's one more scenario. In this case,
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ใใ—ใฆๆœ€ๅพŒใซใ€ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใค ใฎใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใ‚’็ดนไป‹ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€
17:09
I want you to imagine that you're meeting with a client.
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ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ขใƒณใƒˆใจๆ‰“ใกๅˆใ‚ใ›ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
17:12
You've set aside a full hour for this discussion.
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ใ“ใฎใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚นใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฎใŸใ‚ใซใพใ‚‹ใพใ‚‹ 1 ๆ™‚้–“ใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’็ขบไฟใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ“ใฎ 1 ๆ™‚้–“ใฎไผš่ฉฑใงใฏใ€
17:14
You're going over some paperwork during this one hour conversation.
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ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎไบ‹ๅ‹™ๆ‰‹็ถšใใ‚’่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ๆ›ธ้กžใฎ
17:19
You've gone over each particular section of the paperwork and you've reviewed
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็‰นๅฎšใฎใ‚ปใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ใใ‚Œใžใ‚Œ็ขบ่ชใ— ใ€
17:24
expectations as well.
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ๆœŸๅพ…ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ†…ๅฎนใ‚‚็ขบ่ชใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
17:26
You get to the end and realize you still have a full 10 minutes before your next
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใพใงๆฅใฆใ€ ๆฌกใฎไผš่ญฐใพใงใพใ  10 ๅˆ†ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ไป˜ใใพใ™
17:30
meeting. Here's what you might see happen first,
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ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ ๆœ€ๅˆใซ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
17:34
your client might say, okay, thank you. I understand now.
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ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ขใƒณใƒˆใฏใ€Œใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ ไปŠใ€็งใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ€‚
17:39
I appreciate you walking me through all of this and you might respond with
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ใ“ใ“ใพใง่ฉณใ—ใ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ๅ•้กŒใชใๅฏพๅฟœใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
17:44
no problem. On that note, if there are no other questions,
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ใ€‚ ใใฎไธŠใงใ€ ไป–ใซใ”่ณชๅ•ใŒใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใ€
17:47
please go ahead and sign page one and page three.
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1ใƒšใƒผใ‚ธ็›ฎใจ3ใƒšใƒผใ‚ธ็›ฎใซ็ฝฒๅใ‚’ใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ„ใŸใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:50
I'll provide you with a copy for your records via email.
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่จ˜้Œฒ็”จใฎใ‚ณใƒ”ใƒผใ‚’้›ปๅญใƒกใƒผใƒซใงใŠ้€ใ‚Šใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:54
In this particular context,
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ใ“ใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎ็Šถๆณใงใฏใ€ๆฎ‹ใ‚Š 10 ๅˆ†้–“ใ‚’ๅŸ‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ
17:55
rather than shift to a new topic of conversation to fill that
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ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ไผš่ฉฑใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใซ็งป่กŒใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€
18:00
last 10 minutes,
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18:02
we've simply indicated the final steps of what is expected and signaled
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ๅ˜ใซ ๆœŸๅพ…ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฎๆœ€็ต‚ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’็คบใ—ใ€
18:07
that we're going to bring the conversation or the meeting to a close.
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ไผš่ฉฑใพใŸใฏไผš่ญฐใ‚’็ต‚ไบ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็คบใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ€‚
18:11
With that you have all the considerations you need of how and
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ใ“ใ‚Œใซใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ€ ใ„ใคใ€ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่‹ฑ่ชžใง้ฉๅˆ‡ใซ่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’้€ธใ‚‰ใ™ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆๅฟ…่ฆใชใ™ในใฆใฎ่€ƒๆ…ฎไบ‹้ …ใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ€่ฉฑใฎ
18:16
when to appropriately go off topic in English,
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18:19
ensuring that what you want to shift to is relevant and relatable.
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ๅ†…ๅฎนใŒ ้–ข้€ฃๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ๅ…ฑๆ„Ÿใงใใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒไฟ่จผใ•ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
18:24
If you found today's lesson helpful to you,
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎ ใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใŒๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใœใฒ
18:27
I would love to know and you can let me know in a few ways. Number one,
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ใŠ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ›ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใŠ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ›ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใพใšใ€YouTube ใง
18:31
you can give this lesson a thumbs up here on YouTube and while you're at it,
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ใ“ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใซ้ซ˜่ฉ•ไพกใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใใฎ้–“ใ€
18:34
subscribe to this channel so you never miss one of my Confident English lessons.
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ใ“ใฎใƒใƒฃใƒณใƒใƒซใซ็™ป้Œฒใ—ใฆใ€ ็งใฎ Confident English ใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณใ‚’่ฆ‹้€ƒใ•ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
18:39
Number two,
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2 ็•ช็›ฎใซใ€
18:40
you can share your questions and thoughts with me down in the comments below.
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ใ”่ณชๅ•ใ‚„ใ”ๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚’ ไปฅไธ‹ใฎใ‚ณใƒกใƒณใƒˆๆฌ„ใซ่จ˜ๅ…ฅใ—ใฆ็งใจๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
18:43
And finally,
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ใใ—ใฆๆœ€ๅพŒใซใ€
18:44
you can head over to the Speak Confident English website where you'll find
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Speak Confident English ใฎ Web ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€
18:48
lessons free resources and a fluency training for me called how to get
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็„กๆ–™ใฎใƒฌใƒƒใ‚นใƒณ ใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚นใจใ€
18:53
the confidence to Say What You Want in English.
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่‹ฑ่ชžใง่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่‡ชไฟกใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆ่จ€ใ†ๆ–นๆณ•ใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ๆตๆšขใ•ใƒˆใƒฌใƒผใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐใŒ่ฆ‹ใคใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ”
18:55
Thank you so much for joining me and I look forward to seeing you next time.
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