The DEFINITIVE Guide to Becoming a NATURAL English Speaker

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RealLife English


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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The one or two people there that performed better in class
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์ˆ˜์—… ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋” ์ž˜ํ•œ ํ•œ ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
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usually were people who were already living their English.
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์ด๋ฏธ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒํ™œํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:08
I am not what happened to me.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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I am what I choose to become.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
00:12
Get on the fluency train.
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์œ ์ฐฝ์„ฑ ์—ด์ฐจ๋ฅผ ํƒ€์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
00:18
I'm joined here in the Global Studio
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๋‚˜๋Š”
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by the one and only Axel Pose, who in the last episode showed us
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—์„œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ธฐํƒ€๋ฅผ ํŒŒ์‡„ํ•˜์—ฌ
00:23
why he's called Axel Pose by shredding his guitar.
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์ž์‹ ์ด Axel Pose๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค€ ์œ ์ผํ•œ Axel Pose์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ Global Studio์— ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
00:26
How's it going? Thiago.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ .
00:28
Hey, Ethan. I'm fine. How's it going?
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์•ˆ๋…•, ์—๋‹จ. ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด์š”. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
00:30
Today we are talking all about something that is very near and dear to our hearts.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ€๊น๊ณ  ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:36
The RealLife Way.
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๋ฆฌ์–ผ๋ผ์ดํ”„ ๋ฐฉ์‹.
00:37
And the RealLife Way is our method that we help
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  RealLife Way๋Š”
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learners from all around the world to improve their English.
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์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์ด ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋•๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:45
We've talked about this on other podcasts and actually something that we've,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
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you know,
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we know it at our core, but we're kind of defining
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ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
00:51
and coming up with a framework so that we can better explain
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๋” ์ž˜ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ์ •์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ์™€ ๊ณผ์ • ๋“ฑ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š”
00:54
to other people, better use it to train new teachers and new team members
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ต์‚ฌ์™€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒ€ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์›์„ ๊ต์œกํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋” ์ž˜ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค
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that are used to create content and courses and things like that.
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.
01:01
We've been working on this a lot the last few months and we're kind
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•ด์™”๊ณ 
01:05
of rolling out a new iteration of this with you guys today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
So we're really excited about that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ถ„๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:10
And...
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ...
01:13
By the way, Ethan, what's iteration?
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , Ethan, ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:14
A new iteration of the RealLife Way.
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RealLife ๋ฐฉ์‹์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฐ˜๋ณต.
01:15
What's iteration?
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๋ฐ˜๋ณต์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:16
Another way we can say this is a new version, right?
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒˆ ๋ฒ„์ „์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
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So it's another version of the RealLife Way an iteration, we might say it's
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ RealLife ๋ฐฉ์‹ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฒ„์ „์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:25
kind of like a not only a version, but like an improvement on previous versions.
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๋ฒ„์ „์ผ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ด์ „ ๋ฒ„์ „์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:29
We often say here, if you've been following us for a while at real life
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์‹ค์ƒํ™œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์˜ค์…จ๋‹ค๋ฉด
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English, we often say, Don't just learn it, live it.
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, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž์ฃผ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ด์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
01:35
But the RealLife Way adds to extra things.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ RealLife Way๋Š” ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:37
So living it, that's the first part of it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:40
Connect it, and the final part is activate it.
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์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋ฉด ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:43
And these are kind of, you know, circular things that you're doing all the time.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ˆœํ™˜์ ์ธ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:46
You can be at different points of that at different moments,
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์ ์— ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ,
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and you're kind of like always cycling through it at a higher level.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ˆœํ™˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:51
You'll get to know all about that today and by the end.
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์˜ค๋Š˜๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
01:55
Basically, our goal for you is for you to already
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด
01:58
start putting these things into practice, to level up your English.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ด๋ฏธ ์‹ค์ฒœ์— ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:02
And also we're going to give you six tools.
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๋˜ํ•œ 6๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:04
So these components, each of them has two elements.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ์—๋Š” ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:07
So that's six elements in total.
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์ด 6๊ฐœ์˜ ์š”์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:09
We're going to give you a tool for each one of them
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02:11
that you can already start using as soon as you finish
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02:13
listening this podcast or even pausing it during the podcast.
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์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์ฒญ์ทจ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ๋„์ค‘ ์ผ์‹œ ์ค‘์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฆ‰์‹œ ์ด๋ฏธ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ ๋„๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:15
So before we get to that, if you are new here, at RealLife
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— RealLife
02:19
English, every single week we make new lessons like this, new video
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English์—์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์˜ค์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งค์ฃผ ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋น„๋””์˜ค
02:23
podcasts, helping you to take your interest in
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ
02:25
next level so that you can go from feeling like a lost, insecure
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๊ธธ์„ ์žƒ์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , ๋ถˆ์•ˆ์ •ํ•œ
02:28
English learner to being a confident and natural English speaker.
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์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์˜์–ด ๊ตฌ์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:32
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์•„์ง ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ballymaloe๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•˜์—ฌ
02:35
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์ƒˆ ํ•ญ๋ชฉ์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋„ ๋†“์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:38
And that said, let's move on to the first one.
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์ฆ‰, ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด ๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค.
02:41
So as we mentioned live it and this has two elements in it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ๋กœ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:44
The first one is making your English fun, natural and convenient.
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ , ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:48
And actually Thiago and I recorded a podcast
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ Thiago ์™€ ์ €๋Š”
02:51
just about this out How to make Your English Fun, Natural, Convenient.
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:54
It's a super important place for people to get started because a lot of people
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
02:58
are coming out of kind of like boring, dry, traditional methods for learning.
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์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฑด์กฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ํ•™์Šต ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:03
So this can be something that can be a total game changer.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ฒด์ธ์ €๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:07
But if you're listening to us, you might already know about that.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:09
If you are new here, you might want to check out Episode 316
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์ฒ˜์Œ ์˜ค์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šฐ๋ฉฐ ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ
03:13
to learn more about how to make your English fun, natural and convenient.
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๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ 316์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
03:16
But the tool that we are going to talk about
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
03:19
for making it fun, natural, convenient, is reflection.
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ , ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ๋Š” ์„ฑ์ฐฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:23
Reflection is something actually like throughout the process, you can always
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์„ฑ์ฐฐ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:26
be reflecting on how to improve and it's a really important habit, right? But
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๊ฐœ์„  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์„ฑ์ฐฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์Šต๊ด€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
03:31
when it comes to making a fun natural convenient,
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์žฌ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
03:33
this is something like at least Thiago and I have actually talked about that
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์ ์–ด๋„ Thiago์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
03:37
with our coaching students, with individual students.
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์ฝ”์นญ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:40
This is something that I used to do is at the beginning
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€
03:43
in their first couple of sessions,
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์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์˜ ์„ธ์…˜์—์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ์— ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:44
really getting to know them and getting to know
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ 
03:46
what are the things that you like, what you do in your free time,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€, ์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€,
03:48
what are you passionate about?
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๋ฌด์—‡์— ์—ด์ •์„ ์Ÿ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:50
What kind of like, you know, lights you up
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์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฐํžˆ๊ณ 
03:52
and finding ways that you can actually connect your English to that.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹  ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:56
So find ways to take the things that you already love doing
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„
03:59
and start doing them in English.
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ์œผ์„ธ์š”.
04:01
So Thiago actually
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๋•Œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๋˜
04:03
had some really great questions that he asked his students
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์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:06
when he's kind of like doing this with them.
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.
04:07
And I thought, Thiago, you could go ahead and share with which these questions
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:10
are and if you're listening or if you're watching this,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
04:15
I even would say like grab a piece of paper or,
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์ข…์ด ํ•œ ์žฅ์„ ์ง‘๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
04:17
you know, get out a notepad on your phone or whatever.
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๋ฉ”๋ชจ์žฅ์„ ๊บผ๋‚ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ „ํ™” ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ .
04:21
And after the questions, pause and actually like just take
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋๋‚˜๋ฉด ์ž ์‹œ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
04:24
a couple of minutes and think about think about your answers to these questions.
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๋ช‡ ๋ถ„๋งŒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ด์–ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ต๋ณ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
04:27
So take it away, Thiago.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์น˜์›Œ, ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ .
04:29
Yeah, Ethan. And that's super important, right?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์—๋‹จ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
04:32
Because I think most people, most learners, they
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์€
04:36
they view English as a subject, a school subject.
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๊ณผ๋ชฉ, ํ•™๊ต ๊ณผ๋ชฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:40
They need to study only.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ณต๋ถ€๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
Yeah, but yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
04:45
As we study it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ.
04:46
Right, you study the language but it's more than that.
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๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:48
So what we propose here, when we say living your English
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ์•ˆํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒํ™œํ™”ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
04:52
is exactly integrating English into your life.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ถ์— ํ†ตํ•ฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
04:56
Yeah, it's a tool.
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๋„ค, ๋„๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
It's something that is always there.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:59
It's part of your life. You just do it right.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹  ์‚ถ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:01
Almost like, you know, a brushing your teeth in the morning or taking a shower.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ์•„์นจ์— ์ด๋ฅผ ๋‹ฆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:05
We don't we don't even think about it anymore, but we do it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์กฐ์ฐจ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:08
Yeah.
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์‘.
05:09
So the idea is for you to have English like that in our life.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:13
Yeah.
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05:13
You just consume content in English, you just do stuff in English in our day
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์‘.
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ๋Œ€์— ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:17
because that's what you do. Yeah.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
05:19
And the questions that we listed here
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05:22
to help you guys with this reflection are,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์„ฑ์ฐฐ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋„๋ก ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚˜์—ดํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€
05:26
what do I usually do in my free time?
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์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋ณดํ†ต ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:28
What are my hobbies?
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๋‚ด ์ทจ๋ฏธ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:30
What topics am I interested in?
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์–ด๋–ค ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:32
For example, technology, business, psychology.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ธฐ์ˆ , ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค, ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•™.
05:36
What do I already do in my life
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๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ
05:38
that could easily be done in English?
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:41
You know, just by changing the language?
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์–ธ์–ด๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์„œ ์•Œ์•„?
05:44
And how can I make English learning convenient for me?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์„ ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
05:48
So these are some questions that we really encourage
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ˆ™๊ณ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆ™๊ณ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์ •๋ง ๊ถŒ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:51
you guys to ponder, to reflect on, because
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05:55
the idea is to integrate English in your life
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์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒํ™œ์— ํ†ตํ•ฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
And not just be having English, be that thing that you study once
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๋‹จ์ง€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
06:02
or twice a week at your language school or with a private teacher.
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์–ดํ•™์›์—์„œ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ ๊ต์‚ฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜.
06:06
I have to point out there too, you used a really nice word ponder
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ๋„ ์ง€์ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:10
this reminds me always this word of Winnie the Pooh,
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๊ณฐ๋Œ์ด ํ‘ธ์šฐ์˜ ์ด ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ž„ ๋•Œ
06:13
because I remember the cartoons when I was growing up.
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๋งŒํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
06:16
He would like sit under a tree and like when he was having some issue
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์•„๋ž˜์— ์•‰์•„์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—
06:19
and he'd be like sitting there being like, ponder, ponder, ponder, like thinking.
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์•‰์•„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:22
So it's it's exactly what we were saying.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
Reflecting.
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06:24
But ponder is kind of a more advanced way to say that.
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๋ฐ˜์˜.
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ˆ™๊ณ ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ข€ ๋” ๋ฐœ์ „๋œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
06:29
And the second part of living it is every day.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋งค์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:32
So to live your English, you have to make it fun,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒํ™œํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ ,
06:34
natural, convenient, and every day doing it every day.
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์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ , ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์ผ๋งค์ผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:36
And you shared a really nice kind of quote or this may even be considered
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋…น์Œ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ง์ „์— ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์†๋‹ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์งˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:40
like a proverb right before we start recording. Do you want to share that?
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. ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:44
Yeah. About making it every day.
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์‘. ๋งค์ผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ
06:45
I would say consistency is the key here, right?
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์ผ๊ด€์„ฑ์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:49
Consistency is key.
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์ผ๊ด€์„ฑ์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:51
Meaning that it's much better for you to practice your English five
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06:54
or 10 minutes every day, that it may be just doing it once a week for 3 hours.
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๋งค์ผ 5~10๋ถ„์”ฉ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚ซ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ 3์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ •๋„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
Yeah.
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07:00
So it's really about showing up every day, the consistency side of it,
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ผ๊ด€์„ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ
07:06
much better, much more effective in the long run.
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ข‹๊ณ  ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:09
You know, I've been teaching for many years now.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:11
Yeah, I've been a teacher for 15 years now.
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๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ์ด์ œ 15๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ต์‚ฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
And in all, during all this time I have met
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ
07:18
many types of students, many kinds of students.
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๋งŽ์€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:21
And in my experience, it's amazing because I know sometimes
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ
07:24
I would have a class of ten people, you know, and maybe
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10๋ช…์˜ ํ•™๊ธ‰์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
07:29
the one or two people there that performed better in class,
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ˆ˜์—…์—์„œ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:33
usually where people who were already living their English outside of the class,
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๋ณดํ†ต ์ˆ˜์—… ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์ด๋ฏธ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
07:38
you know, when I did some digging, some investigation and talk to these students,
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํŒŒํ—ค์น˜๊ณ , ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ , ์ด ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
07:43
I would discover that they had the habit already
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ
07:46
of watching movies and series everyday in English.
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์˜ํ™”์™€ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ์Šต๊ด€์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
07:48
They loved movies and series where they read comic books in English.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๋งŒํ™”์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ๋Š” ์˜ํ™”์™€ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
07:52
You know, it was a habit already, or they did something in English already
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์Šต๊ด€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ์ด๋ฏธ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:56
that was connected with their interests. Yeah.
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. ์‘.
07:59
So I saw that first hand in our students or learners
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒํ™œํ•˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๊ทธ ์†๊ธธ์„ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:03
who live their English like that.
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.
08:05
Yeah. Outside of the class.
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์‘. ์ˆ˜์—… ๋ฐ–.
08:06
Outside of that deliberate practice moment, they are the ones
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์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ์™ธ์—๋Š”
08:10
who actually tend to be more successful at learning the language.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๋” ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:13
A lot of people
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค
08:14
and this is actually the reason why we have this is the first component
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์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ์ธ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
08:17
is because a lot of people are coming out of maybe an experience where mostly
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„
08:21
you were studying in traditional schools and everything
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์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์—์„œ ๋‚˜์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:24
and maybe you were just, you know, you would go to class the two times a week
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ์ˆ˜์—…์— ๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:27
because you thought like, you know, that's what you're supposed to do.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:28
You're supposed to sign up for classes, go off two times a week, and and that's it.
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์ˆ˜์—…์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜๊ณ  ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:32
But it's much more important what you're doing between those classes.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ˆ˜์—… ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:36
If you're showing up every single day and doing something,
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๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
08:38
then that you're actually like going to class.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์—…์— ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:42
In many ways the class will be really helpful,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์—…์€ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ฏธ
08:44
but only if you're already having those really good habits.
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์ข‹์€ ์Šต๊ด€์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:48
So we actually just talked.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:49
We did a podcast talking a lot about this, talking about motivation and why
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋™๊ธฐ ๋ถ€์—ฌ์™€ ์™œ
08:54
systems, why habits are much more powerful than relying on motivation.
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์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์™œ ์Šต๊ด€์ด ๋™๊ธฐ ๋ถ€์—ฌ์— ์˜์กดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:58
And we had a lot of book that we really love called Atomic Habits by James Clear,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” James Clear์˜ Atomic Habits๋ผ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„์ง ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
09:02
which you should totally check out if you haven't.
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
09:04
So check that out if you want to learn more.
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์ž์„ธํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
09:08
We go a lot deeper,
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09:08
but just wanted to give you guys kind of like a tool here that you can already use.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€
์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ฏธ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋„๊ตฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:12
So one of the things, one of the, um,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์Œ, ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ
09:16
I guess it's tool from atomic habits that is really powerful.
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์›์ž ์Šต๊ด€์˜ ๋„๊ตฌ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
09:19
It's called habit stacking.
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์Šต๊ด€ ์Œ“๊ธฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
So if you stack things, you pile one on top of another.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์Œ“์œผ๋ฉด ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์œ„์— ์Œ“์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:24
So what this is basically is he says, you know,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
09:27
take some habits that you already have, that you already exists.
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์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด๋ฏธ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ์Šต๊ด€์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์„ธ์š”.
09:30
So for most of us, we have a coffee in the morning. Right?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์•„์นจ์— ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ?
09:33
We have our morning.
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์•„์นจ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:34
We make our morning coffee or so we do something while we're having our coffee.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‹ ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:37
So you already have that habit established.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ ์Šต๊ด€์„ ํ™•๋ฆฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:39
Why not stack on top of that some sort of beneficial English habit?
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์œ ์ตํ•œ ์˜์–ด ์Šต๊ด€์„ ์Œ“์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
09:44
And this can be really small.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ž‘์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:45
The important thing is just starting small, building this habit,
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ด ์Šต๊ด€์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:48
showing up every single day, even if it's just 2 minutes.
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๋‹จ 2๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๋„ ๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:50
He actually calls this a two minute rule because it's much more effective
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ 2๋ถ„ ๊ทœ์น™์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:52
if you really lower the bar, if you make it really easy for yourself.
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๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ์ •๋ง ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๊ณ  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ฉด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
And then once you have that habit established, you optimize, you know,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ทธ ์Šต๊ด€์ด ํ™•๋ฆฝ๋˜๋ฉด ์ตœ์ ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉด
09:59
you can make it.
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์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:00
You can spend more time, you can make it more effective.
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋” ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:02
But the important thing is just showing up every single day.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์ผ ๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:05
Ethan, what does to lower the bar means... or mean?
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Ethan, to lower the bar means... or means์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
10:10
Yeah, that's a that's really great.
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๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:12
And it's something that a lot of people come into learning, right.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:16
And they have very high expectations.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’์€ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:17
They want to already find the best teacher,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๊ต์‚ฌ,
10:19
the best method, the best YouTube channel, whatever.
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์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•, ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„ ๋“ฑ์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
Instead.
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๋Œ€์‹ ์—.
10:24
But they're not doing the things to actually like show up every single day.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:26
So until you're actually showing up every single day,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š”
10:29
you know, the same as if like you're wanting to get in shape and everything.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ชธ๋งค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๊พธ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์šด๋™ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—
10:32
You don't need to worry so much about finding like the perfect workout program
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๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:34
at the beginning.
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. ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ
10:35
You need to like actually get yourself to the gym
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
10:37
three times a week or four times a week or every day,
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋„ค ๋ฒˆ ๋˜๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:39
you know, depending on what your goals are.
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.
10:41
And then once you're actually doing that, then you can, you know, find
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด
10:45
a really great trainer who can help you to optimize, to do the exercises better.
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์šด๋™์„ ์ตœ์ ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋” ์ž˜ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ํŠธ๋ ˆ์ด๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
Or you can find like a really great program
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๋˜๋Š”
10:51
that helps you to, you know, have kind of like a method that you can follow.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋”ฐ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ฐ–๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ฃผ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:55
But until you're actually like showing up every day, all the optimization
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ตœ์ ํ™”
10:59
and stuff, you might just end up failing because you want you won't stick with it.
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์™€ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๊ณ ์ˆ˜ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹คํŒจ๋กœ ๋๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:02
So it's like it's about maybe simplifying the process, right?
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ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
11:06
You lower the bar, you lower the expectations at first.
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๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๊ณ  ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‚ฎ์ถฅ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:10
Right? Exactly.
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ? ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
11:11
You don't have super crazy high expectations.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏธ์นœ ๋†’์€ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
11:13
You lower the bar.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋‚ฎ์ถฅ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:14
Yeah, maybe 2 minutes per day, 5 minutes per day.
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๋„ค, ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 2๋ถ„, ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 5๋ถ„ ์ •๋„์š”.
11:17
And then as time passes, you can raise the bar,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋†’์ด๊ณ 
11:20
you can increase the the complexity or the the expectations.
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๋ณต์žก์„ฑ ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋†’์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:24
Right. Exactly.
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ. ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
11:25
That's the opposite is like let's let's raise the bar, let's stoke the fire.
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๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋†’์ด์ž, ๋ถˆ์„ ์ง€ํ”ผ์ž ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:29
I recommend you actually, I try this right now already for yourself.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ถ”์ฒœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:32
So talked about like a morning coffee.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชจ๋‹ ์ปคํ”ผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:34
One thing you could do is, you know, maybe studying the new words that you learned
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” TV ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ „๋‚  ๋ฐค์— ๋ฐฐ์šด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€
11:38
maybe the night before you watched TV series
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11:40
and you took note of like a word or two and, you know, you could actually
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‘ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฉ”๋ชจํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
11:44
use these 2 minutes, 5 minutes that you're having more coffee
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์ด 2๋ถ„, 5 ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ 
11:46
and just like review your list or, you know, use space repetition
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๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ณต๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ
11:50
to study those, which we'll talk more about
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๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ
11:52
and a really great way you could do this as you're listening this podcast, right?
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ?
11:55
So we just talked about, for example, lower the bar, raise the bar.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:58
And if you are using the the app, we give you vocabulary
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ฑ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
12:02
flashcards for every single podcast so you never forget these new words.
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๋ชจ๋“  ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด ํ”Œ๋ž˜์‹œ ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์žŠ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:07
So you could actually,
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12:09
for example, try this tomorrow while you're having a morning coffee.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ด์ผ ๋ชจ๋‹ ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ฉด์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ๋„ํ•ด ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:12
Download the app now and then while you're doing it, then study
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์•ฑ์„ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์•ฑ์„ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ
12:15
some of the words that you learned today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
12:17
And if you start doing that every single day, you're going to find
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์ผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
12:20
instead of just like hearing these new expressions and then,
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
12:23
you know, never using them again, you can actually make them
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๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์„
12:27
an active part of your repertoire, your vocabulary.
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๋ ˆํผํ† ๋ฆฌ, ์–ดํœ˜์˜ ํ™œ์„ฑ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:31
So when you get a speaking opportunity, you can actually use them.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฐ์„ค ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:34
So before we move on to the next component,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—
12:39
I just wanted to share
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12:40
one of my favorite quotes that when I was reading Atomic Habits,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Atomic Habits๋ฅผ ์ฝ์„ ๋•Œ
12:43
so he says, everyone is consumed by the end goal,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ตœ์ข… ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋ชฐ๋‘
12:47
but one pushup is better than not exercising.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ‘ธ์‹œ์—… ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์ด ์šด๋™์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ซ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:49
One minute of guitar practice is better than none at all.
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1๋ถ„๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์—ฐ์Šต์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ซ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:52
One minute of reading is better than never picking up a book.
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1๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ง‘์–ด ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ซ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฌด ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค
12:55
It's better to do less than you hoped than to do nothing at all.
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์ ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ซ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:58
So this basically just points to is like, you know, maybe you had a plan
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹จ์ง€
13:03
to study grammar for 30 minutes, but you're not...
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30๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:06
Maybe you have kids.
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13:07
They're like screaming in the morning.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„์นจ์— ๋น„๋ช…์„ ์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:08
You couldn't get them out the door and stuff
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ฌธ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ 
13:09
and you only have 5 minutes then so do 5 minutes of grammar exercise
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ 5๋ถ„ ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 30๋ถ„์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— 5๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”
13:12
just because you couldn't do the 30 minutes. Lower the bar
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. ๋ง‰๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๊ณ 
13:16
that said,
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13:18
let's move on to the next component, which is connect it.
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๋‹ค์Œ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ์ธ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
13:21
So the first part, first element of connect it is WHY.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ connect it์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„, ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์š”์†Œ๋Š” WHY์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:26
So we always tell people here, I really fingers start with your WHY
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:30
you know, which means that you're really getting clear on your deep
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. ์ฆ‰, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
13:34
burning purpose for learning the language
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์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊นŠ์€ ๋ถˆํƒ€๋Š” ๋ชฉ์ ์„ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:36
which most people never actually think about.
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13:38
Why they're learning the language?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
13:39
They're just, you know, doing it because of external, external reasons.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์™ธ์ , ์™ธ์  ์ด์œ  ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:42
Their parents tell them they have to do it
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
13:44
or they're doing it because they think they need to get a job
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์ง์žฅ์„ ๊ตฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
13:47
or they're doing it because they think that it's something
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13:50
that successful people do, but they're never really connected inside to like,
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์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
13:53
how is my life going to be different if I learn it?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ฉด ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ๊นŒ์š”?
13:56
You know, what is something that can really
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์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
13:58
this can actually be worthwhile, worth all the effort
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ผ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:01
because it really does take a lot of effort.
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14:03
So this is something that's really valuable have because
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14:06
when the going gets tough as we say, when things get difficult,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์งˆ ๋•Œ,
14:10
you know, you can go back to your WHY, you can reconnect to that
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, WHY๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜
14:13
and it'll help to keep pushing you forward.
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์† ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
14:15
Will remind you of why you started learning in the first place.
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์ฒ˜์Œ์— ํ•™์Šต์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:19
And a way that I used to do this,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ „์— ํ•˜๋˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ
14:21
something that you can try right now
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ๋„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:23
again, like pausing and just taking a few moments to note down.
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. ์ผ์‹œ ์ค‘์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž ์‹œ ๋ฉ”๋ชจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:27
It's called the Five Whys Exercise.
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Five Whys ์šด๋™์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:29
I just have all my students do this in the very first class, so
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๋ชจ๋“  ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ฒซ ์ˆ˜์—…์—์„œ ์ด ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
14:33
it's really simple.
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์ •๋ง ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ
14:34
I have to do it is you ask yourself why am I learning English?
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
14:38
And most people the first time they ask themselves, there's five whys.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ๋•Œ 5๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:40
Because the first time you do
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ
14:42
ask yourself, you're probably you're going to say something
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์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ
14:44
like, Oh, I'm learning it because I need to get a better job.
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„, ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ตฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
14:46
I'm learning it because my parents want me to.
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ์›ํ•˜์…”์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:49
I'm learning it because my boss told me or helped me get the promotion.
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์ƒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์Šน์ง„์„ ๋„์™€์ค˜์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
14:53
I'm learning it because I want to travel
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:55
and all those things. They can be good.
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. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ข‹์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:58
They can be good reasons to learn and everything.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์•ผ ํ•  ์ข‹์€ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
14:59
But it's not it's not very unique.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋…ํŠนํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:01
It's not like something that's actually in turn on you that's really going to be
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ์„ ๋ฐํžˆ๊ณ 
15:04
something that's going to light you up and get you excited
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ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ 
15:07
and give you purpose to put in all the hard work. So
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ผ ๋ชฉ์ ์„ ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•  ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:12
it's five ways.
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15:12
So first yourself, ask yourself, why am I doing this?
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๋‹ค์„ฏ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋จผ์ € ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
15:15
And then when you give your answer, you say, And why is that important?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
15:18
You think of an answer that.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:19
So I want to learn English to travel.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”.
15:22
And why is that important?
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์™œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
15:23
Because I want to be able to travel and like talk to the locals.
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์—ฌํ–‰์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ  ํ˜„์ง€์ธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:29
And why is that important?
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์™œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”? ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ๊ด€๊ด‘์ด ์•„๋‹Œ
15:31
Because I want to have an actual cultural experience
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์‹ค์ œ ๋ฌธํ™” ์ฒดํ—˜์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:34
and not just be going as a tourist.
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.
15:36
And why is that important? And so on.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์™œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”? ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ.
15:37
So you do this at least five times and you find by you get to the fifth time
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ ์–ด๋„ 5๋ฒˆ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  5๋ฒˆ์งธ์—
15:41
it's going to connect and something that's like
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์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๊ณ 
15:42
really important to you, that's really uniquely important to you
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๋…ํŠนํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”
15:45
and what actually would have my students do is once they got this, it's
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ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
15:48
put it somewhere
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15:49
to, you know,
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15:50
write it down again and put it somewhere where they would see it every single day.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์ ์–ด๋‘๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งค์ผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์— ๋‘์„ธ์š”.
15:53
So I had one student who made it the screensaver on his phone.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ์˜ ํ™”๋ฉด ๋ณดํ˜ธ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ํ•œ ํ•™์ƒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:56
So every time he'd open up his phone, you would see his WHY for learning English.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ์—ด ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:00
Had other students who put it on a computer on the fridge or,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ƒ‰์žฅ๊ณ ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“์•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
16:03
you know, somewhere else where they would see it every day. So
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งค์ผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:06
take a moment to do that.
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์ž ์‹œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ด์–ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ
16:07
It probably won't take you very long, and it can be
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์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ํ™œ๋ ฅ์„
16:09
something that can really reinvigorate your English learning.
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๋ถˆ์–ด๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . Ethan์ด๋ผ๋Š”
16:13
There is a famous saying or proverb, right, Ethan, that goes something like
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์†๋‹ด์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:17
If you don't know where you're going, any place will do something like that, right?
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์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋ฉด ์–ด๋”” ๋“ ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
16:22
Yeah, I've heard it earlier.
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๋„ค, ์ „์— ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:23
It's like if you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
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์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ธธ์ด๋“  ๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋‹ค ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:26
There you go. Yeah.
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์ž. ์‘. ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ชฉ์ ์ด๋‚˜ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ
16:27
It's like if you don't define your of your purpose or why
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์ •์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:30
for learning English,
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.
16:32
Yeah.
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16:32
I mean, whatever result you get, you have to accept it, right.
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์˜ˆ.
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋“  ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
16:37
Because you know, there isn't a clear
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ
16:40
defined goal. Yeah.
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์ •์˜๋œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
16:43
And I actually found a quote that I really like connect to this
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ธ์šฉ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:47
and from the Buddha who is probably one of the wisest people of all time.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ƒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ˜„๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ธ ๋ถ€์ฒ˜๋‹˜์˜ ๋ง์”€๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:50
So he said, Your work is to discover your work
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” โ€œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ผ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ผ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌ
16:54
and then with all of your heart to give yourself to it.
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜จ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋‹คํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐ”์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:57
So might be a little bit confusing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ํ—ท๊ฐˆ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:59
Your work is to discover your work.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ผ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ผ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:00
So it's in another sense saying, you know, discover what were you put here to do?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด๊ณณ์— ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:05
What is your purpose?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:06
And like ultimately to you might have one.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:08
Why now in the maybe next year or in two years?
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚ด๋…„ ์ด๋‚˜ 2๋…„ ํ›„์— ์™œ ์ง€๊ธˆ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
17:10
In five years, if you were to do this exercise again, it might have changed.
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5๋…„ ํ›„์— ์ด ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:13
You know, maybe you already got to your first WHY
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์ด๋ฏธ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ WHY์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
17:15
or maybe you're having what happens to a lot of people.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:18
So once they start learning English,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ๋‹จ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ
17:19
they connect with people from other countries.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:21
They have new experiences and everything and it kind of like opens their,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒฝํ—˜๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜
17:25
opens their eyes to a new reality, to a new world, to a new worldview.
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๋ˆˆ์„ ์—ด์–ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ˜„์‹ค, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์„ธ๊ณ„, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ด€์— ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋œจ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:29
And so, like
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
17:31
an even deeper part of this, of discovering
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์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ,
17:33
your way is like really an ability.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ธธ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:35
It gives you the ability to connect to the world, you know,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
17:37
so that you can play a role
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด
17:39
as like a global citizen and make the world a better place to be.
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ์‹œ๋ฏผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์„ธ์ƒ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:43
So I really like this quote from the Buddha
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋ถ€์ฒ˜๋‹˜์˜ ์ด ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:45
because I feel like it kind of captures that.
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.
17:46
It's like, you know, discovering what were you put here to do?
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๋‚˜์š”?
17:49
How is English like playing a part in that?
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‚˜์š”?
17:51
And, you know, give all your heart to it, like really pour yourself into that
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ชจ๋“  ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ์Ÿ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜จ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋‹คํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
17:55
to give all of your energy to it because, you know, it's it's
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17:59
going to be a life well lived in my case, we talked about
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์ œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž˜ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์‚ถ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์™œ(WHY)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:02
WHY, which is kind of like, you know, your internal how
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18:07
you know how you're connecting to your English for example.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์˜์–ด์— ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•„๋Š” ๋‚ด๋ถ€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:11
But on the other side of this is of connecting.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์—๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:13
It is Identity. Is
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์•„์ด๋ดํ‹ฐํ‹ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:16
how does your English connect to you?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
18:19
So you had like a really great quote for this in Thiago.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ Thiago์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
18:22
Yeah, yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
18:23
There's a quote here from Carl Jung. Right.
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์นผ ์œต์˜ ๋ช…์–ธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
18:26
And he says, I am not what happened to me.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:30
I am what I choose to become.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
18:33
I really love that because I've had many students coming to me for classes and,
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์ €๋Š” ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ค๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
18:38
you know, some of them, they they carry with them
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š”
18:41
some traumas from the past when it comes to learning English.
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์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์˜ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:44
And they say things like, Oh, I wish I had started learning English earlier.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„, ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ.
18:50
I wish I hadn't taken so long or I wish my parents had enrolled me, you know,
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ์ €๋ฅผ
18:55
in an English course or four English classes back when I was younger, you know.
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์˜์–ด ๊ณผ์ •์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ 4 ๊ฐœ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ์š”.
19:00
But it's no use dwelling right on these thoughts.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ณ„์† ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋ฌด ์†Œ์šฉ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:05
Yeah. I mean, what happened to you? Happened to you.
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์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:07
That's the past.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:09
Now what matters is what you choose to do with your life now and in the future.
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์ด์ œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ์™€ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:14
So this quote here. Yeah, I am not
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ด ์ธ์šฉ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚˜๋Š”
19:16
what happened to me,
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
19:18
I am what I choose to become, I think is really powerful
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
19:21
because you have the power, you have the autonomy to define
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19:25
what kind of person you want to be in the future.
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์ •์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํž˜๊ณผ ์ž์œจ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
19:28
And then like the Buddha quote.
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๋‹ค์Œ ๋ถ€์ฒ˜๋‹˜์˜ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
19:30
Right, give yourself to it. Yeah.
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๋งž์•„์š”. ์‘. ๊ทธ ๋น„์ „์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹คํ˜„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
19:32
Give ourself all your energy, all your creativity, all your talent
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ชจ๋“  ์—๋„ˆ์ง€, ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ, ๋ชจ๋“  ์žฌ๋Šฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค
19:36
to accomplish or to realize that vision
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19:41
and still talking about identity.
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.
19:43
I think, you know, if you can connect that with the type of person
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
19:47
you want to become, I think that's more powerful than just having a goal.
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๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ
19:53
We were talking about this in the prep for this episode, right?
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์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  ?
19:55
Yes. And I was reflecting on my learning.
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์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚˜์˜ ํ•™์Šต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐ˜์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
19:58
You know, I started learning English when I was 15 years old.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” 15์‚ด ๋•Œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
20:01
Like it's been 20 years already.
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๋ฒŒ์จ 20๋…„์ด ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
20:02
And I don't remember saying to myself,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ
20:06
I want to learn English or I want to improve my English.
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค, ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์Œ ์†์œผ๋กœ ํ˜ผ์žฃ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ
20:10
I don't ever remember using those words when talking to myself in my mind.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
20:15
But what I remember saying a lot to myself was,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ง์€ ์ด์ค‘
20:18
I want to be a bilingual person or I want to become bilingual.
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์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค ๋˜๋Š” ์ด์ค‘ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 2๊ฐœ์˜ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ
20:22
The idea of being bilingual using two languages was very appealing to me,
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” 2๊ฐœ ๊ตญ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
20:26
and that's what I said to myself a lot.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ง์ด๋‹ค.
20:28
I want to be I want to become a bilingual person
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์ œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š”
20:31
who expresses themselves well, in my case in Portuguese,
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์ œ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด์ธ ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด
20:35
my native tongue, and also in English, my second language of choice.
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์™€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ์ œ2์–ธ์–ด์ธ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ž˜ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์ค‘ ์–ธ์–ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:38
But I think that the words we use
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
20:41
when talking to ourselves, our inner voice, yeah, the words are important.
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ํ˜ผ์žฃ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๋ง, ๋‚ด๋ฉด์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜ ๊ทธ ๋ง์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
20:46
They matter because, you see, if you use words like be, being or becoming,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์กด์žฌ, ์กด์žฌ ๋˜๋Š” ๋˜๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
20:51
that is deeply connected to your self,
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์ž์‹ ,
20:54
to your identity, or how you view yourself in the future.
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์ •์ฒด์„ฑ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ ๊นŠ์ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:57
Instead of I want to learn English, which is a goal.
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๋Œ€์‹  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ธ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค .
21:00
It's something you are going for.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€๊ณ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:03
I want to be I want to be an English speaker.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค.
21:05
I want to become a fluent English speaker, a confident English speaker.
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์œ ์ฐฝํ•œ ์˜์–ด ๊ตฌ์‚ฌ์ž, ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ๊ตฌ์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:09
I think that rings more
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์šธ๋ฆฐ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:12
to the core.
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21:12
I think, you know, it's more powerful.
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๋” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:15
Yeah. To look at it like that.
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด.
21:17
So one recommendation is
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ถŒ์žฅ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด ์˜จ
21:20
reflect on the kinds of words you have been using.
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๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ์ข…๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:23
Yeah.
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21:23
With yourself when talking about your goals with English.
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์‘.
์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ.
21:27
Yeah.
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์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€
21:28
Does it have any
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21:31
any connection with the type of person you want to become.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์œ ํ˜•๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
21:35
Yeah.
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21:35
So it's important to think about these things as well.
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์‘.
๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:38
Yeah.
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์‘.
21:39
Yeah.
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์‘. ๊ทธ ํ˜ผ์žฃ๋ง,
21:40
It's like you're saying before shifting from
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21:41
if you're having that self-talk, self-talk,
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ํ˜ผ์žฃ๋ง, ์ž๊ธฐ
21:43
how you talk to yourself is really important.
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์ž์‹ ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:45
So if you have that self-talk of like, oh, you know, I wish that
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜ผ์žฃ๋ง์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์˜ค, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‚˜๋Š”
21:51
my parents had, you know, enrolled me in, of course, when I was younger.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ, ๋ฌผ๋ก , ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋“ฑ๋กํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ.
21:54
I wish I had started earlier.
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๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ.
21:55
I wish I had more money so I could get whatever teacher or sign up
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ˆ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์„ ์–ป๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
21:59
for whatever course, and instead, like at where you are, you know,
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์–ด๋–ค ์ฝ”์Šค์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜๊ณ  ๋Œ€์‹ ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
22:02
start from where you are and start thinking about like the future.
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์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:06
Like who do you want to become? Why is all the effort worth it?
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‚˜์š”? ๋ชจ๋“  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
22:09
And a really great exercise for this as well.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์šด๋™์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:12
I like what Thiago was saying about actually kind of
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์ €๋Š” ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ข€
22:16
becoming more
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๋” ์ž๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
22:18
aware of how you're talking to yourself is starting with the end in mind.
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๋์„ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘๊ณ  ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:23
So what this means is envisioning your future self
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•ด์ง„ ํ›„์— ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:26
once you've gotten clear, I'm like, I want to be a bilingual person.
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. ์ €๋Š” ์ด์ค‘ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:28
So holding that version of yourself in your mind and then thinking
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋งˆ์Œ์†์— ๊ฐ„์งํ•˜๊ณ 
22:32
about the details, you know, like actually kind of trying to visualize, okay,
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์„ธ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ๊ฐํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”,
22:37
so I'm going to be this bilingual person all my life, be like,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ํ‰์ƒ ์ด์ค‘ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:39
What will I be doing?
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ํ–‰์œ„?
22:41
Who I spend my time with?
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์™€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š”๊ฐ€?
22:43
Where will I be working?
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
22:45
Where will I be living?
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€?
22:46
All these kind of things and getting like really clear in your head
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ๋“ค ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ํ›„์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:49
that what what will your life be like once you've achieved that goal?
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22:52
And then work backwards from that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ฑฐ๊พธ๋กœ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
22:53
Like so we talk about a lot is fake it until you become it
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ž์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ด๋ฏธ ํ–‰๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€์งœ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:57
so you can already start acting like that future self that you wish to be.
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.
23:01
So what would that you start making decisions based on that?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
23:04
So you know, for example, maybe instead of watching a TV series
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23:09
in English with subtitles in your native language,
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๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์–ด TV ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ๋” ์–ด๋ ต๋”๋ผ๋„ ์˜์–ด
23:11
you start watching them with subtitles in English,
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์ž๋ง‰๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
23:13
even though it's more difficult or instead of,
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23:16
I don't know,
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23:18
lazing about Saturday morning, maybe you spend just 10 minutes getting
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ํ† ์š”์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฒŒ์„๋Ÿฌ์ง€๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์นจ์—
23:22
your dusty grammar book off the shelf and like doing some exercises
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์ฑ…์žฅ์—์„œ ๋จผ์ง€ ์Œ“์ธ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ์ฑ…์„ ๊บผ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ 10๋ถ„๋งŒ ํ• ์• ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
23:27
and, you know, maybe, maybe instead of avoiding having a conversation
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, ์•„๋งˆ๋„
23:30
with someone in English, Thiago has talked about this a lot that he used
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ ์— Thiago๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:33
to really push himself every time in his native city of Sao Paulo.
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๊ทธ์˜ ๊ณ ํ–ฅ์ธ ์ƒํŒŒ์šธ๋ฃจ์—์„œ ๋งค๋ฒˆ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ชฐ์•„๋ถ™์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:38
Like actually when he heard overheard someone speaking another language
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
23:41
to go up to them and introduce himself and speak English.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:44
So, you know, instead of maybe shying away from those opportunities,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ํšŒํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ ์—
23:47
putting yourself out there and saying like, oh,
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์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋†“๊ณ  ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„,
23:49
you know, this is a chance to speak English,
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์ด๊ฑด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ์•ผ.
23:51
you want to become that future self who can speak English naturally, confidently.
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ, ์ž์‹  ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด.
23:54
You have to start doing it now, even if it's difficult,
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ํž˜๋“ค์–ด๋„, ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œ๋„,
23:56
even if you're shy, even if you know you fail the first couple of times.
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ํ•œ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ์‹คํŒจํ•˜๋Š” ์ค„ ์•Œ๋”๋ผ๋„ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:59
But you have to have those experiences
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€
24:01
to become that future self that you want to become.
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
24:04
So we are going to share
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š”
24:07
the last component with you, which is activate it.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
24:10
But first, we want to take a quick break just to thank some of our listeners.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋จผ์ € ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž ๋ช‡ ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ๋ง์”€์„ ์ „ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ž ์‹œ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:15
So Thiago, I'll let you do the honor of sharing our first shout out.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Thiago, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์™ธ์นจ์„ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ์˜๊ด‘์„ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งก๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:20
All right.
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24:20
The first shout out goes to Duulaaye, I believe.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์™ธ์นจ์€ Duulaaye์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:24
Sorry for mispronouncing that.
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์ž˜๋ชป ๋ฐœ์Œํ•ด์„œ ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:26
The testimonial goes like this.
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๊ฐ„์ฆ์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:47
Thank you very much.
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:48
I do like so and sorry also if I'm butchering your name,
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๋„์‚ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ฏธ์•ˆ
24:52
but if you want us to shout you out,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์™ธ์น˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•ฑ์„ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œ
24:55
one way you can do that is by download the app.
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ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
24:57
We've already talked about it a few times.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:59
It's free to download and when you do, if you enjoy the experience,
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๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œ ํ›„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ ๋‹ค๋ฉด
25:03
then just leave us a five star review in the Apple app or Google Play Store.
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Apple ์•ฑ์ด๋‚˜ Google Play ์Šคํ† ์–ด์—์„œ ๋ณ„์  5๊ฐœ ๋ฆฌ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
25:07
Let other learners know what your experience was like.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์–ด๋• ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
25:08
Just like Duulaaye did.
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Duulaaye๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
25:09
And that way we can find you and also shout you out.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. YouTube ๋Œ“๊ธ€์— Clyde์˜
25:12
And we have a very lovely comment that came from one of our recent episodes
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์ตœ๊ทผ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:17
from Clyde in the comments of YouTube.
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.
25:20
So do you want to go ahead and share what he said?
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๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
25:24
Yeah, yeah, sure.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
25:25
By the way, Clyde is a he's always commenting on our video.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , Clyde๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋น„๋””์˜ค์— ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:29
So thank you so much for that, for watching us and
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—
25:32
for, you know, interacting with the video by leaving our thoughts on the
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๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค์™€ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:36
the episode.
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25:36
Yeah, it means a lot to us. Right.
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.
๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
25:39
So in this comment here, Clyde says:
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ด ๋Œ“๊ธ€์—์„œ Clyde๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:04
Like he referred to it as a train. Yeah, yeah.
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
26:07
Get on the fluency train.
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์œ ์ฐฝ์„ฑ ์—ด์ฐจ๋ฅผ ํƒ€์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
26:09
So if you're watching this on YouTube, you can leave us a comment down below,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ YouTube์—์„œ ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋ž˜์— ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—
26:12
letting us know what you thought about the episode and we might shot you up next.
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๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋‹ค์Œ์— ์ดฌ์˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:16
And if you're listening to this, you can go.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:18
If you would like to actually see us and watch the video,
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
26:22
then that's also an option for you.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์„ ํƒ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:25
And I did want to point out before we move on,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์† ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ง€์ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:28
because he said in a nutshell, so what does it mean to say in a nutshell.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ, ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€.
26:32
When I want to summarize what you're saying,
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์š”์•ฝํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๋•Œ,
26:33
you can use that expression in a nutshell.
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๊ทธ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:35
Imagine you were explaining a bunch of things like blah, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
26:38
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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, blah, blah, blah, blah.
26:40
And then for you to summarize,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์š”์•ฝํ•˜๊ณ 
26:41
to bring it to a conclusion, you can go in a nutshell, blah, blah, blah.
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๊ฒฐ๋ก ์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ blah, blah, blah๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:45
Yeah.
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์‘. ์•ฝ์†๋Œ€๋กœ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š”
26:47
So let's move into the final component as promised, which is activate it.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
26:52
So activating it, we have two more elements here.
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ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:56
The first one being always learning what we actually we might
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
26:59
change the name of this in the future.
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:01
We're still kind of figuring out exactly what to call it,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ์ง€ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๊ณ 
27:03
but it's something that Thiago and I, we both have talked about a lot
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ Thiago ์™€ ์ €๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:06
on past podcast,
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27:07
because it's something that even once you get to very advanced
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27:09
levels, it's such an important thing to keep always present.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ.
27:12
And that's being curious, you know, it's always kind of
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€
27:17
taking advantage of things that you're learning with,
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27:18
be that watching a TV series,
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TV ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ ์‹œ์ฒญ,
27:21
watching a movie, listening to this podcast and looking for those bits
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์˜ํ™” ์‹œ์ฒญ, ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์ฒญ์ทจ
27:25
and pieces of things that are interesting to you, that stick out to you.
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๋ฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ํ•™์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ํŠ€์–ด. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
27:28
You know,
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27:28
maybe it's a bit of pronunciation, maybe it's a new word, an expression,
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,
์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฐœ์Œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ํ‘œํ˜„์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
27:31
maybe it's a it's grammatical structure that you're studying.
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๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:35
And, you know, maybe you've you pause, you go back, you
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ž ์‹œ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ
27:38
you take some notes or something like that.
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๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ด์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:40
So one of the really great ways to take advantage of this is really simple.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:45
And actually we did a video all about this because it's about like activating
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ค‘๊ธ‰์—์„œ ๊ณ ๊ธ‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
27:49
your English called The Secret to go from intermediate
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The Secret์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:52
to advance, which you can find on our real life English YouTube channel.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‹ค์ƒํ™œ ์˜์–ด YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:56
And we'll also link it in the description in the show notes.
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๋˜ํ•œ ์‡ผ ๋…ธํŠธ์˜ ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋งํฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:58
The simple exercise here is just whatever you're doing.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์—ฐ์Šต์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:01
You know, if you're listening to a podcast,
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
28:03
if it's convenient for you, if you're a place where you can write down
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ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋ฉ”๋ชจ๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์žฅ์†Œ๋ผ๋ฉด,
28:05
or if you're watching a TV series, grab a notepad or notepad app on your phone.
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TV ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์—์„œ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ์žฅ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฉ”๋ชจ์žฅ ์•ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค์„ธ์š”.
28:11
And when you see a new word or a new expression that you haven't seen before,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „์— ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ‘œํ˜„์ด ๋ณด์ด๋ฉด
28:15
note it down.
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28:15
Just take it. It's like really simple.
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๋ฉ”๋ชจํ•ด ๋‘์„ธ์š”.
๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€. ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:17
You just have to tap your phone open there
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‘๋“œ๋ ค ์—ด๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:19
and, you know, just take a moment to take note of it.
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. ์ž ์‹œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ด์–ด ๊ธฐ๋กํ•ด ๋‘์„ธ์š”.
28:23
You don't have to do anything else.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:24
You can just sit there, enjoy watching the series,
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์•‰์•„์„œ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
28:26
but making sure to take note of any new word that you find.
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๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•ด ๋‘์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
28:30
And then
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
28:31
the next step, which actually could even go into the next element
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ์š”์†Œ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š”
28:34
of activating it, is adding it to a spaced repetition system.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ„๊ฒฉ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:39
So spaced repetition system is a technology that works
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ฐ„๊ฒฉ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์žŠ์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
28:44
with how your brain, how your memory are formed
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๋‡Œ์™€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ํ˜•์„ฑ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:47
to make sure that you never forget a piece of information.
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.
28:49
There are
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28:49
some really great apps that we recommend all the time, like Anki, Memorize.
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Anki, Memorize์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ถ”์ฒœํ•˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์•ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:53
Of course,
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๋ฌผ๋ก 
28:54
if you're using the app, we also give you vocabulary
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์•ฑ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์–ดํœ˜๋„ ์ œ๊ณต
28:56
and we have our own spaced repetition system
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š”
28:58
so that the new words and expressions that you're learning
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด์™€ ํ‘œํ˜„์„
29:01
in the episode of today's podcast, you'll never forget them.
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์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๊ณ ์œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ„๊ฒฉ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:06
So that's like really amazing
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์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ
29:07
is if you can actually remember them when it comes time to speak.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
29:10
And if you do these two things, you know, when you're watching TV series
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด TV ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
29:13
or listen to a podcast, you actually like taking over the new words
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ๋•Œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ 
29:16
and then you add them to space repetition system like this,
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์ด๋ฅผ ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋ฉด
29:19
you can ensure that you're actually expanding your active vocabulary
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ™œ๋™์ ์ธ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ 
29:22
and there's a quote that actually I just happened upon this morning,
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์žˆ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ์ธ์šฉ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐฐ์›€์˜
29:27
so I thought it would be great to share here
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29:29
big part of this
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ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด
29:31
of always learning is being really humble in your life.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฒธ์†ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:35
This is actually something that Thiago and I
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ์™€ ์ œ๊ฐ€
29:36
were talking about in a recent episode, is that a lot of times
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์ตœ๊ทผ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋‹จ
29:40
once people get to like an upper, intermediate or advanced level,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๊ธ‰, ์ค‘๊ธ‰ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด,
29:43
they'll kind of, you know, they'll become a little bit arrogant
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๊ฑฐ๋งŒํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
29:46
or for themselves, their ego will kind of get the better of them.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ž์•„๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์–ป์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:50
And they start thinking like, you know, I'm already to this level.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ด ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:52
I don't need to ask about the definition of new words.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ์ •์˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:55
I don't need to practice mimicry.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฐฉ์„ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:58
I don't need to improve my accent or improve my pronunciation or whatever.
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๋‚ด ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:01
The case is kind of like, Oh, I've made it.
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์‚ฌ๊ฑด์€ ๋งˆ์น˜, ์˜ค, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ์–ด.
30:02
You know, I'm good.
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‚œ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„.
30:05
But it's important to keep in mind to keep
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
30:09
to kind of keep that principle
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30:10
of staying humble because there's always someone who's better than you.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚˜์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฒธ์†ํ•จ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ์›์น™์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:13
There's always someone who knows more than you.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:15
There's always someone who can teach you something.
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
30:17
There are always new things that you can learn.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
30:19
So the quote that I was talking about this is from
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์€
30:23
we looked at the pronunciation before, but I'm still going to butcher this.
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์ด์ „์— ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„์‚ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:26
So if there's any Greek listeners in our in our audience, you can
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฒญ์ค‘ ์ค‘์— ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ œ ๋ง์„
30:30
you can correct me maybe.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ์žก์•„ ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:32
But is it from Epictetus?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ Epictetus์—์„œ ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
30:34
Epictetus, something like that Greek philosopher.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค ์ฒ ํ•™์ž ๊ฐ™์€ ์—ํ”ฝํ…Œํ† ์Šค.
30:38
And he says it is impossible to learn that which one thinks one already knows.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
30:44
So is it possible to learn that which one thinks one already knows?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋ฏธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
30:47
Which basically means
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์ฆ‰, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
30:48
that if you're so convinced that you already know everything, then
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์ž์‹ ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
30:52
you know you're kind of like closing your mind off
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30:54
to any new possibilities of learning new things.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋‹ซ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:56
Um, there's also like a lot, there's kind of like the sayings around, you know,
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์Œ, ๋˜ํ•œ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์†๋‹ด๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:03
once the student's ready, the teacher will appear.
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ํ•™์ƒ์ด ์ค€๋น„๋˜๋ฉด ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:05
And, you know, if your mind is closed off, then no one can really teach you.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๋‹ซํ˜€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:08
No one can help you.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:09
So it's important to keep that humility, keep an open mind, stay curious.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ฒธ์†ํ•จ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์—ด๊ณ  ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:13
And I think if you do that, then you're going to see you're
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
31:16
able to learn so much more.
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:19
And going from there, I think that it'd be perfect actually,
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:21
because Thiago is talking about a quote that has all to do about over practice,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด Thiago๋Š”
31:25
which is the next element of activating it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ์š”์†Œ์ธ ๊ณผ๋„ํ•œ ์—ฐ์Šต๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:28
Yeah, yeah, sure.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜.
31:29
I just want make a comment about what you were saying before.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด์ „์— ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:32
Yeah. About the quote. Yeah.
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์‘. ๊ฒฌ์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด. ์‘.
31:34
It's about lifelong learning as well.
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ํ‰์ƒ๊ต์œก๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋‹ค.
31:36
Yeah. Like you are learning for life.
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์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
31:39
You never stop learning.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฐฐ์›€์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:40
And we can also bring up here the growth mindset versus the fixed mindset, right?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹ ๋Œ€ ๊ณ ์ • ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
31:46
So if you have a growth mindset
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ฑ์žฅ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
31:48
and you believe that there is always something new to learn,
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์žˆ๊ณ  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์•ผ ํ•  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด,
31:50
you are always learning and you are open
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
31:53
as a person, as an individual, you are open to new information,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ, ๊ฐœ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ •๋ณด์— ์—ด๋ ค ์žˆ๊ณ ,
31:56
you are open to a new way
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ์—ด๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:58
of looking at something that maybe you have been doing for years already.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•ด์™”์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:01
This is growth mindset.
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์„ฑ์žฅ ๋งˆ์ธ๋“œ์…‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:02
Now, fixed mindset is that person that believes
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์ž, ๊ณ ์ • ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์‹์€
32:05
what Ethan was describing right now, right, Ethan?
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Ethan์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Ethan?
32:07
Like, Oh, I've learned all I could.
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์˜ค, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:09
I've taken my English, you know, as as far as I could.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:14
Now I'm done.
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์ด์ œ ๋๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:15
Yeah. This is not much of a growth mindset.
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์‘. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:17
I mean, I've been doing this for years, guys.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
32:19
I've been learning English for 20 years,
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์ €๋Š” 20๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ์ง€
32:22
and I still feel like there's stuff that I have to learn and improve.
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๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:25
So it never ends, right?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ ?
32:27
It never stops.
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์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:29
And our mother tongue is even.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋Š” ์ง์ˆ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:30
We never know all of the words.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:31
So we never, you know, know how to say.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋งํ•  ์ค„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:34
Greek philosophers, names that. Not at all, yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค ์ฒ ํ•™์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ช…๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์™€
32:37
A quote
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32:38
that I got for today's episode related to
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๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์€
32:42
this is from Simon Sinek and from his book Start With Why.
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Simon Sinek ๊ณผ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ €์„œ Start With Why์—์„œ ์ธ์šฉํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:48
And he says Passion alone can't cut it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์—ด์ •๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:51
For a passion to survive, it needs structure.
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์—ด์ •์ด ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์œผ๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ตฌ์กฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. How๊ฐ€
32:54
A Why without How has little probability of success.
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์—†๋Š” Why๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:59
I really love this because I know
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š”
33:00
so far, you know, we have been talking about living our English right
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์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
33:04
every day, connecting it to a deeper intrinsic motivator.
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๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๋‚ด์žฌ์  ๋™๊ธฐ๋ถ€์—ฌ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:10
Yeah. In our case, developing your why.
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์‘. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
33:12
Why am I learning English? That's great.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์™œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š”๊ฐ€? ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:13
If you do these two things already, that's going to take a really far.
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์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:17
Yeah, but as the quote here says, you also need
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์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ธ์šฉ๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋“ฏ์ด
33:20
some sort of structure for your studies.
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์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋„ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:23
It's just like going to the gym.
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์ฒด์œก๊ด€์—๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:24
Maybe you have already been consuming a lot of content
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์ด๋ฏธ
33:27
about workouts and diets or healthy eating, right?
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์šด๋™๊ณผ ๋‹ค์ด์–ดํŠธ, ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์‹์Šต๊ด€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
33:31
You are living that world by consuming content about it
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๊ทธ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์‚ด๊ณ 
33:35
and you have a deeper reason why you want to be a healthier person.
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์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋” ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:39
That's cool,
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33:39
but just going to the gym and not knowing what you're going to do there,
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๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ธด
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
33:43
that's not the best strategy.
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์ตœ์„ ์˜ ์ „๋žต์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
33:44
You need a how you need a structure in the in the case of the gym,
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๊ตฌ์กฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ์ง€ , ๊ทธ๋‚ 
33:48
maybe you need to know what muscle groups are going to be working
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ทผ์œก ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ์šด๋™ํ• ์ง€
33:51
on that day, for how long, how many sessions you're going to do.
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, ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜, ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์„ธ์…˜์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:56
So you can apply the same principle to your English learning?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์—๋„ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์›์น™์„ ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
33:58
Yes, live your English every day, consume lots of content, develop that.
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๋„ค, ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ƒํ™œํ•˜๊ณ , ๋งŽ์€ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
34:02
Why that identity.
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์™œ ๊ทธ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ.
34:04
Yeah the future self you want to you are striving for but
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์˜ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
34:08
also you need that moment in your week, maybe once or twice a week.
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„ ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
34:12
That is more deliberate, that is more structured,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข€ ๋” ๊ณ„ํš์ ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋” ๊ตฌ์กฐํ™”๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:15
maybe something like, okay, today
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์•„๋งˆ๋„, ์ข‹์•„์š”, ์˜ค๋Š˜
34:16
I'm going to sit down for 20 minutes and work on my pronunciation deliberately.
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์ €๋Š” 20๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์•‰์•„์„œ ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:20
I'm going to listen when I
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๋‚˜๋Š”
34:22
listen to a podcast or watch a movie and repeat what I hear
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ ๋“ฃ๊ณ 
34:26
tomorrow or another day, you know, I'm going to sit down
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๋‚ด์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚ ์— ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:29
and do some grammar work here
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์•‰์•„์„œ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ๊ณต๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:30
because I know I really struggle with this structure.
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๊ตฌ์กฐ.
34:32
So adding structure to your learning is also really important.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•™์Šต์— ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:37
And it goes with this third component yet, which is activation.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”๋ผ๋Š” ์ด ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง„ํ–‰๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
34:41
Yeah.
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์‘.
34:42
So that deliver practice, just like I was saying, it's super important.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:46
I think like you were saying, it can be really good to have like
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ์„ธ์…˜์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:50
sessions, like I deliver practice session
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. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ์Šต ์„ธ์…˜์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
34:52
that you have a free day or a couple of days a week, but
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋‚˜ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋ฉฐ์น ์€ ์‰ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
34:56
even just like,
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34:56
you know, again, like coming back to the fun, natural, convenient every day,
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์žฌ๋ฏธ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ , ํŽธ๋ฆฌํ•œ ๋งค์ผ, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
35:01
you know, find ways that you can can I add like drops also deliver practice
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋ฐฉ์šธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ์ œ๊ณต ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:05
you know maybe if you're watching I think Thiago talks a lot about like Two
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์•„๋งˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด Thiago๊ฐ€ Two and a Half Men์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:08
and a Half Men that there are like a lot of different
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35:11
moments from that that he would mimic and he still like remembers today.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋ฐฉ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์—๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๋“ค.
35:14
Right because these these things I'll stick with you.
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:16
So you're watching TV series.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ TV ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:17
This is something I find really helpful, even though like I'm at an advanced level
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋ก ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ,
35:21
in different languages
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35:23
just to, you know, I'll hear something I really like the way the person said it.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:26
Just like posit and like repeat how that person was saying it a couple of times.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋งํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ posit์™€ like repeat.
35:29
Like go back, maybe listen again and, and it can just do wonders, even
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๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:33
just those kind of like bits and pieces of, of activation of
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35:37
of mimicking can do wonders for, you know, improving.
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๋ชจ๋ฐฉ์˜ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์กฐ๊ฐ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ๊ฐœ์„ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ
35:40
I think if you have those kind of like little micro habits
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์ž‘์€ ์Šต๊ด€๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ž‘์€ ์Šต๊ด€์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
35:42
throughout the day to those things where they add up, right?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ํ•ฉ์‚ฐ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:45
So if you have like your sessions and you also have like these kind of bits
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์„ธ์…˜์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ ์ฑ„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์กฐ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋ฏธ
35:48
and pieces that you can fill
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35:50
throughout your days
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35:51
that's going to
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35:52
even if you're already in advanced level, helps
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๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„
35:54
you to get even higher, right, to raise the bar.
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๋” ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ ์ง‘.
35:56
And then it's nice to point out here, Ethan, that,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ง€์ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Ethan, ์•„์‹œ
35:58
you know, these three components, these three components we are presenting
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๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ด ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๋Š”
36:01
today, live English, connect, live it connected, activated.
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๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์˜์–ด, ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ, ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ, ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ ์‹œ์ž‘ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ
36:05
They go together like I described at the beginning of the episode.
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์„ค๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด๋™ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
36:07
It's like a circle. Yeah.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ์›๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
36:09
And you are always doing them.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:10
One does not exclude the other.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์ œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:13
Yeah.
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36:13
And I think that the reason why many people fail at learning English
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
36:18
with traditional methods or schools or even classes is because
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์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋‚˜ ํ•™๊ต, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹คํŒจํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:22
think about it, right?
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36:23
If you have private classes with their teacher once a week or twice
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ณผ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ˆ˜์—…์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
36:27
a week, this is more in their lines of activating it.
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์ด๋ฅผ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:30
Then the other components.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ.
36:33
Yeah, I view private classes
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ˆ˜์—…์„
36:35
that I have with my students as deliberate practice moments that we have.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์˜๋„์ ์ธ ์—ฐ์Šต ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:39
It's that one hour that we have together
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36:42
to deliberately work on a specific point of the language.
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์–ธ์–ด์˜ ํŠน์ • ์ง€์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:45
That's cool, we need that perfect.
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๋ฉ‹์ง€๋„ค์š”. ์™„๋ฒฝํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:47
But many people, they stop there that the issue, you know, they stop there.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ฉˆ์ถฅ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฉˆ์ถฅ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:51
They don't live their English
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์‚ด์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋”
36:53
throughout the rest of the week or they don't have that deeper burning.
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๊นŠ์€ ๋ถˆํƒ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:56
Why they are learning the language.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์ด์œ .
36:58
They think it's just because of the job or the boss is annoying them about that.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ง์—… ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ƒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์งœ์ฆ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:02
Right.
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
37:03
But if you bring the other two components together,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‘ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๋ฉด
37:06
then they're going to be successful.
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์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:08
It's living our English, connecting it to a deeper, you know, a purpose
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒํ™œํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๋ชฉ์ ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ ,
37:12
and having those deliberate practice moments.
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์˜๋„์ ์ธ ์—ฐ์Šต ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:15
You can do that with a teacher.
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์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:16
The activation, the deliberate practice moment.
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ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”, ์˜๋„์ ์ธ ์—ฐ์Šต ์ˆœ๊ฐ„.
37:19
It helps, right?
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๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
37:20
But you don't have to. You can do it alone.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜ผ์ž์„œ๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:21
I it alone.
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๋‚˜ ํ˜ผ์ž.
37:23
Most of my deliberate practice was done alone.
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๋‚ด ์˜๋„์ ์ธ ์—ฐ์Šต์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ํ˜ผ์ž ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์กŒ๋‹ค.
37:25
I never had a teacher per say. Right.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๋งํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
37:28
So, you know, going back to that right one component does not exclude the other.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๋˜๋Œ๋ ค๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ์™ธ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:34
You need the three of them.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:35
Yeah.
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37:35
So maybe listening to this podcast today, guys, reflect, you know, reflect.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ๋ฐ˜์„ฑํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๋ฐ˜์„ฑํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
37:40
I mean, okay, which one of these components do I need to
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ ์ค‘ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์„
37:44
develop more or have I not been developing?
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๋” ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
37:47
Yeah, because maybe you are struggling
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๋„ค, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด
37:50
with your English because one of these is not really in place for you.
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์ด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ ํ•ฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜์–ด์— ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:55
If you're listening to this podcast, if you're watching us, it's
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์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ
37:58
because you must have goals right to improve your English.
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์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
38:02
So, you know, don't just listen to this passively actually take action.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ˆ˜๋™์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ฃ์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ ์ค‘
38:05
You can activate it today by using one of the tools that we talked about.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
38:08
Choose any of them or try all of them.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
38:10
Think how much time you have, but we really challenge you.
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์ „ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:12
Like at least choose one.
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์ ์–ด๋„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋‹จ 2๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๋„ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
38:14
Try to make like one small change today
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์ž‘์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”
38:15
that's going to improve your English in some way, even if it's just 2 minutes.
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. ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์„
38:19
So that said, before we wrap up, if you are watching this on YouTube,
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๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์ „์— YouTube์—์„œ ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
38:24
let us know which component live it, connect to activate it.
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜์—ฌ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
38:28
Do you struggle with the most and would you like us to, you know, make another episode?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธธ ์›ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
38:32
So going deeper on so why don't you let us know what down comes below?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ ์•„๋ž˜์— ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
38:35
That way we can make a lesson that's can help you with that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:39
And that's a great sharing all of these different ideas with you.
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:43
We would love to hear what you thought about it, what you think about
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ,
38:47
some of these new ideas with Life Way.
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Life Way์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:49
And we look forward to bring you more
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
38:53
dynamite's content next week.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์ด๋„ˆ๋งˆ์ดํŠธ์˜ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์„ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:56
One, two or three: Aaww Yeah!
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ํ•˜๋‚˜, ๋‘˜, ์…‹: ์•„์•„ ์˜ˆ!
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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