How You Can Reduce Your ACCENT in English (...and Should You?)

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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When it's cold, I like to eat "soap"ย  for dinner. This is an example of aย ย 
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์ถ”์šธ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ €๋…์œผ๋กœ '๋น„๋ˆ„'๋ฅผ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
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mispronunciation problem there. There's no such thing as speakingย ย 
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์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ฐœ์Œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•…์„ผํŠธ ์—†์ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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English with no accent, because,ย  you know, everybody has an accent.ย 
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. ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›ํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด
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I believe that your accent can alsoย  be changed and altered if you want to.
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์–ต์–‘๋„ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ ๋ฐ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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I'm joined here in the globalย  studio by the one the only,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ์œ ์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ
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and appropriately sporting his GunsN'Roses shirt,ย  Axl Pose, of course, otherwise known as Thiago.ย 
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๊ทธ์˜ GunsN'Roses ์…”์ธ , ๋ฌผ๋ก  Axl Pose, ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์ ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Hey, Ethan. What's up? How's it going, man?ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•, ์—๋‹จ. ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด์•ผ? ์–ด๋•Œ์š”?
00:33
I'm good. I'm good. Actually, you know, somethingย  funny happened the other, the other day. You know,ย ย 
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๋‚œ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„. ๋‚œ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„. ์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์ €๋ฒˆ์— ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์žˆ์ž–์•„์š”,
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I was trying to watch Peaky Blinders this weekย  with my wife, and we tried doing it withoutย ย 
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์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ์— ์•„๋‚ด์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ Peaky Blinders๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ž๋ง‰ ์—†์ด ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ •๋ง
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subtitles, and man, it was, it was tough, youย  know. I felt like I didn't know any English.ย 
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ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค.
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That is what we would call a rookie'sย  mistake. Do you know what that means?ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ ์ธ์˜ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋„ˆ๋Š”์ด ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ์•„๋‹ˆ?
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Right. Like a beginner's mistake.ย  An amateur's (Exactly) mistake.ย 
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ. ์ดˆ๋ณด์ž์˜ ์‹ค์ˆ˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ. ์•„๋งˆ์ถ”์–ด์˜ (์ •ํ™•ํžˆ) ์‹ค์ˆ˜.
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Yeah. I believe that comes from baseball, weย  would say. Uh, but even, yeah, for me too,ย ย 
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์‘. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•ผ๊ตฌ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์–ด, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด, ๊ทธ๋ž˜,
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I have to watch Peaky Blinders. It's like the, theย  Birmingham, the old Birmingham accent. I miss aย ย 
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๋‚˜๋„ ํ”ผํ‚ค ๋ธ”๋ผ์ธ๋”์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ด์•ผ ํ•ด. ์˜ˆ์ „ ๋ฒ„๋ฐ์—„ ์–ต์–‘์ธ ๋ฒ„๋ฐ์—„๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž๋ง‰
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lot of it if I watch Peaky Blinders without,ย  without subtitles. So definitely, definitelyย ย 
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์—†์ด Peaky Blinders๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋งŽ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์š” . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ
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need those subtitles. It has to be one of the mostย  complicated accents, which of course, today we'reย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์•…์„ผํŠธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์˜ค๋Š˜์€
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talking all about accents. Uh, I actually saw aย  comment the other day, and I grabbed it becauseย ย 
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์•…์„ผํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ์ €๋ฒˆ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ
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I thought it'd be a nice place for us to start.ย  It comes from Marcy who wrote this on one of our,ย ย 
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์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ๊ณณ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Marcy๋Š”
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uh, few weeks ago on one of our past lessons,ย  saying, "One more wonderful lesson. It's amazingย ย 
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๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์ „์— ์ง€๋‚œ ์ˆ˜์—… ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์—์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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hearing Thiago's English, his pronunciationย  and confidence to speak inspire us to keepย ย 
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01:43
learning and improve our speaking skills. I hopeย  that I am able to reach it one day too." So,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋„ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋„๋‹ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
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of course, every single week we try to help youย  to achieve your goals, to go from being a lost,ย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋งค์ฃผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ธธ์„ ์žƒ๊ณ 
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insecure English learner, to be a confidentย  natural English speaker, exactly what we wantedย ย 
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๋ถˆ์•ˆ์ •ํ•œ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์˜์–ด ๊ตฌ์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋„๋ก ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
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to do in today's lesson. So be sure to hit thatย  subscribe bell, the subscribe button, and the bellย ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ˆ˜์—…์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ตฌ๋… ์ข… ๋ชจ์–‘, ๊ตฌ๋… ๋ฒ„ํŠผ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
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down below so you don't miss a single new lesson. All right. First of all, Marcy, thank you so muchย ย 
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์•„๋ž˜ ์ข… ๋ชจ์–‘ ์„ ๋ˆŒ๋Ÿฌ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋„ ๋†“์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์šฐ์„ , Marcy, ๋Œ“๊ธ€ ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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for the comment. I really appreciate that. Andย  yes, you can do it. Yeah. Just keep practicing.ย ย 
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. ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ณ„์† ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
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But Ethan, I actually have a questionย  for you because it is true. Yeah. I mean,ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ Ethan, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€,
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I have heard so many learners saying that theyย  wanna speak English like a native speaker. Theyย ย 
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์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
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wanna sound like a native speaker. But as aย  native speaker yourself, what do you thinkย ย 
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์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”
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about this? I mean, this goal or this, um, wayย  of thinking about the language? Any thoughts?ย 
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? ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ด ๋ชฉํ‘œ ๋˜๋Š” ์ด, ์Œ, ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์‹? ์ด๊ฒฌ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ?
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I think someone like Marcy, or a lot of peopleย  who are watching, they see you, and it's veryย ย 
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Marcy์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ 
02:39
admirable to want to, to speak like you. All theย  hard work that you've put in. It's not somethingย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์กด๊ฒฝ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์Ÿ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ.
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that just comes overnight right into havingย  really confident, natural sounding English that,ย ย 
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ํ•˜๋ฃป๋ฐค ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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you know, almost sounds like a native. I don'tย  think, you know, your accent is not very clear,ย ย 
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. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:57
like, you know, he's from New York, or he's fromย  LA, or he's from this part, but you have done aย ย 
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‰ด์š• ์ถœ์‹ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, LA ์ถœ์‹ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ด ์ง€์—ญ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€
03:03
really good job at imitating a pretty standardย  American accent, and that's something that a lotย ย 
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์˜ˆ์œ ํ‘œ์ค€์„ ํ‰๋‚ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์–ต์–‘, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
03:08
of learners I've noticed aspire to. However, Iย  think that it depends a lot on your goals, firstย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฐ ๋งŽ์€ ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์ด ์—ด๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋งŽ์ด ์ขŒ์šฐ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:15
of all, because I think it's, it's, it's somethingย  that's, that's kind of sexy, right? It's to soundย ย 
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. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์„น์‹œํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
03:20
like a native, but most people don't actuallyย  think about, first of all, all the hard work thatย ย 
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์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:24
goes into doing that. It's not just somethingย  like, you know, if you study and everything,ย ย 
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. ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ณต๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด
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you're gonna get this accent. There's a lot ofย  precision that has to go into that, which we'llย ย 
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์ด ์–ต์–‘์„ ์–ป๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ •๋ฐ€๋„๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
03:31
talk more about today. But for a lot of people,ย  it's just not necessary to put in all that hardย ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํž˜๋“ค๊ฒŒ ์ผํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:37
work. So I think it's really important that youย  actually think about what are my objectives withย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ œ ์˜์–ด์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:40
my English before you say I wanna sound like aย  native, because maybe it's not actually somethingย ย 
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. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ
03:45
that deep down is the best thing for you. That's so true. Yeah. And sometimes I hearย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋”
03:50
learners going, Oh, I wanna speak Englishย  with no accent, but there's no such thing asย ย 
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ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค, ์–ต์–‘ ์—†์ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ
03:55
speaking English, let me say that again. There'sย  no such thing as speaking English with no accent,ย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•…์„ผํŠธ ์—†์ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:01
because, you know, everybody has an accent.ย  Yeah? I mean, I, I I, I look at accent Ethan as,ย ย 
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘? ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚˜, ๋‚˜, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•…์„ผํŠธ Ethan์„,
04:06
uh, your style of speaking, you know,ย  it's how your English sounds in general.ย ย 
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์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€์ผ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:12
You know, it's how you dress your English, youย  know, to present it to people or to the world. Andย ย 
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์„ ๋ณด์ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ž…๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด
04:19
just like, maybe you can, you are free toย  choose what clothing you're gonna wear today,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜ท์„ ์ž…์„์ง€ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์„ ํƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์–ด
04:25
you can also choose how you wanna sound in theย  language. is the presentation of it. Right?ย ย 
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๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์„ ํƒํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ?
04:31
Um, a great example that one of our team membersย  gave about this the other day, Izzy, was comparingย ย 
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์Œ, ์ €๋ฒˆ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํŒ€์› ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ œ์‹œํ•œ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์ธ Izzy๊ฐ€
04:38
your accent with a font on the computer.ย  Imagine you have a Google Doc open there,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์„ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์˜ ๊ธ€๊ผด๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— Google ๋ฌธ์„œ๊ฐ€ ์—ด๋ ค ์žˆ๊ณ 
04:43
you are writing a text and you are using theย  font Times New Roman. And then you go, you know,ย ย 
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ํ…์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ž‘์„ฑ ์ค‘์ด๋ฉฐ Times New Roman ๊ธ€๊ผด์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ,
04:48
I don't want that font, you know, I want, I wantย  my text to look differently. Maybe Helveticaย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ธ€๊ผด์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ํ…์ŠคํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๊ธธ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ Helvetica
04:53
or, you know what, come to think of it, I guessย  Century Gothic, you know, Century Gothic is reallyย ย 
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๋˜๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด Century Gothic, Century Gothic์€ ์ •๋ง
04:58
beautiful font. I want that font for my text. Soย  just like a font or even, you know, your fashionย ย 
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ธ€๊ผด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ํ…์ŠคํŠธ์— ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ธ€๊ผด์„ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธ€๊ผด์ด๋‚˜ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํŒจ์…˜
05:04
style, yeah, Just, just like those can be changedย  and modified. I believe that your accent can alsoย ย 
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์Šคํƒ€์ผ๋„, ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋˜๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ •๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š” . ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์„ ํ˜ธ๋„๋‚˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘๋„
05:10
be changed and altered if you want to, accordingย  to your preferences or goals with English.ย 
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์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋˜๊ณ  ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์•…์„ผํŠธ ์—†์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ
05:17
There's this whole thing too, between, youย  know, you want to speak with no accent.ย ย 
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์‚ฌ์ด์—๋„ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
05:23
What does that exactly mean? For most people,ย  it's probably in some sense that you can fit in,ย ย 
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ž˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
05:29
that people can easily understand you, is moreย  what they're trying to get out from there. Andย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
05:34
in most cases, I find that what people really areย  more needing the, the, the, the, the desire thatย ย 
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ๋” ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
05:43
they have deep down is to have clear, accurateย  pronunciation. Because if you have clear,ย ย 
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๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ณ 
05:46
accurate pronunciation, then you know anyone, atย  least from most dialects of English, or if, atย ย 
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์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์˜์–ด ๋ฐฉ์–ธ์„ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
05:52
least if it's global English, will understandย  you. So what exactly are the differences betweenย ย 
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์˜์–ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฐœ์Œ๊ณผ ์•…์„ผํŠธ์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์€ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”
05:58
pronunciation and accent? Because peopleย  tend to confuse these two terms, right?ย 
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? ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด ๋‘ ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ํ˜ผ๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:03
Yeah, that's a great question.ย  I look at pronunciation more as,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:08
uh, how you pronounce individual words or how youย  pronounce, uh, certain sounds, individual sounds,ย ย 
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์–ด, ๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๋Š”์ง€, ์–ด, ํŠน์ • ์†Œ๋ฆฌ, ๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ,
06:16
you know, and accent is more like the whole thing.ย  Yeah. Your accent is influenced by many things.ย ย 
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋Š” ์ „์ฒด์™€ ๋” ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ์˜ํ•ด ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
Yes. It is influenced by your pronunciationย  knowledge. It is influenced by your connectedย ย 
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์˜ˆ. ๋ฐœ์Œ ์ง€์‹์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ
06:30
speech knowledge and application. Itย  is influenced by your native country,ย ย 
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์Œ์„ฑ ์ง€์‹ ๋ฐ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๊ตญ, ์ถœ์‹  ๊ตญ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:34
where you come from and what your mother tongueย  is. It is influenced by, uh, the type of Englishย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด,
06:40
you consume most of the time. So your accent isย  a combination, it's a sum of all those things.ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์€ ์กฐํ•ฉ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์˜ ํ•ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:47
That's what makes you sound, you know, in English.ย  Now, pronunciation is more specific things. Forย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์€ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:53
example, imagine I say, um, when it's cold, I likeย  to eat, uh, "soap" for dinner. When it's cold, Iย ย 
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์Œ, ์ถ”์šธ ๋•Œ ์ €๋…์œผ๋กœ "๋น„๋ˆ„"๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ์ถ”์šธ ๋•Œ๋Š”
07:03
like to eat "soap" for dinner. This is an exampleย  of a mispronunciation problem there, because,ย ย 
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์ €๋…์œผ๋กœ '๋น„๋ˆ„'๋ฅผ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ฐœ์Œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์•„์‹œ
07:10
you know, I guess as a native you'll hear me andย  then you go like, yeah, that sounds kind of silly,ย ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ œ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ, ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ข€ ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
07:14
or funny or weird. But I think what Thiagoย  is trying to say is he, he likes to eat soupย ย 
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์›ƒ๊ธฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ถ”์šธ ๋•Œ ์ˆ˜ํ”„๋ฅผ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:21
when it's cold. So instead of saying "soup" I saidย  "soap". Yeah. I mean, I view pronunciation moreย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ '์ˆ˜ํ”„' ๋Œ€์‹  '๋น„๋ˆ„'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐœ์Œ์„
07:27
as that - individual sounds, individualย  words. The cool thing about that thoughย ย 
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๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ, ๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ๋‹จ์–ด๋กœ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ ์€
07:32
is that, um, depending on how you work on theย  pronunciation sounds and which sound you focus on,ย ย 
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์Œ, ๋ฐœ์Œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ๊ณผ ์–ด๋–ค ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์—
07:39
your accent might change also just by workingย  on those sounds. Let's take the schwa soundย ย 
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์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์–ต์–‘์ด ๋ฐ”๋€” ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์Šˆ์™€ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค
07:47
for example, which at least last time I checkedย  it was the most common vowel sound in English,ย ย 
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. ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜์–ด์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ”ํ•œ ๋ชจ์Œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:52
in spoken English. If you start pronouncingย  the schwa sounds more often, your accent asย ย 
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. ์Šˆ์™€ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ํ•ด๋‹น ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ์ ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„
07:59
a whole will already sound very differentย  just by applying that pronunciation sound.ย 
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์ „์ฒด ์•…์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
08:03
I think one of the really important things thereย  as well with you, you mentioned the schwa sound,ย ย 
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์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์Šˆ์™€ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:10
there's the dreaded "th" sound for many peopleย  as well, right? That maybe all these sounds thatย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜๋Š” 'th' ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ ? ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด
08:16
we have in English or in your target languageย  don't exist in your native language. And so,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด์—๋Š” ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
08:20
even part of having accurate pronunciation,ย  of course, many people will understand you,ย ย 
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์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋„
08:25
even if you don't always have accurateย  pronunciation, if you say thing instead of thing,ย ย 
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋”๋ผ๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ ๋Œ€์‹  ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
08:30
or thing instead of thing. If you're not saying,ย  depending on the language people come from asย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋ฌผ ๋Œ€์‹  ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์„ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋กœ ์˜จ ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ
08:35
their mother tongue, they might inaccuratelyย  pronounce that "th" in different ways.ย ย 
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'th'๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:41
But some people, some natives especially, andย  even some, you know, English learners mightย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ํŠนํžˆ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์ด
08:47
not understand you because they're waiting for theย  word thing, not the word thing, or the word thing.ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
08:53
Or there's even other cases where it actually, ifย  you mispronounce something, it changes the word,ย ย 
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๋˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ž˜๋ชป ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๋ฉด
08:57
like you said, soap and soup. If you're gettingย  that wrong, you're communicating a differentย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋น„๋ˆ„์™€ ์ˆ˜ํ”„๋กœ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜๋ชป ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐœ์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:02
object. And depending if you're talking to anย  English teacher, we tend to be used to theseย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜์–ด ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์ฃ 
09:07
kind of cases, right? But if you're talking toย  someone who's not so used to speaking to Englishย ย 
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? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ต์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€
09:12
learners or non-native English speakers, thenย  that might not be the case. And so they mightย ย 
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์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
09:17
have more trouble wrapping their head around thatย  you like to eat soap on cold winter evenings.ย ย 
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์ถ”์šด ๊ฒจ์šธ ์ €๋…์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„๋ˆ„๋ฅผ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์‹ธ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:23
Um, I thought something that might be useful hereย  is, is even giving an example of, because we haveย ย 
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์Œ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์œ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
09:28
different accents. You have, for example, theย  most common that people learn British or Americanย ย 
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์–ต์–‘์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜๊ตญ์‹ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:32
English. But even if you say you're learningย  American English, are you learning southernย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šด๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ๋‚จ๋ฏธ์‹ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”
09:36
American English? Are you learning northeasternย  American English? If you're learning northeasternย ย 
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? ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ถ๋™๋ถ€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ? ๋ถ๋™๋ถ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
09:41
American English, are you learning, you know, fromย  Boston, from New York, from Pennsylvania, there'sย ย 
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๋ณด์Šคํ„ด, ๋‰ด์š•, ํŽœ์‹ค๋ฒ ์ด๋‹ˆ์•„์—์„œ
09:46
all sorts of different accents. And even within,ย  you start getting smaller and smaller, people haveย ย 
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์–ต์–‘์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์—์„œ๋„ ์ ์  ๋” ์ž‘์•„์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์„œ๋กœ
09:50
their friend groups that they'll use differentย  vocabulary with, right? That they'll have insideย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ์นœ๊ตฌ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด๋ถ€์—์„œ
09:54
jokes or they'll have certain terms that onlyย  with that group of friends would be understood.ย ย 
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๋†๋‹ด์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•ด๋‹น ๊ทธ๋ฃน์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ๋งŒ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:58
So you always have these, these details and stuffย  to pay attention to. But if we're looking at more,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์„ธ๋ถ€ ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:03
let's look at a broader one, like British versusย  American, you have pronunciation differencesย ย 
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์˜๊ตญ์‹ ๋Œ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋” ๋„“์€ ๋ฒ”์œ„์—์„œ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:07
between these two accents, right? For example, anย  American, most Americans would say the word dog,ย ย 
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์ด ๋‘ ์–ต์–‘ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ฐœ์Œ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์€ ๊ฐœ๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ
10:14
like this with a /ษ”ห/ sound - dog. However, Brits,ย  most British people will say, dog, like they say,ย ย 
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/ษ”ห/ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ - ๊ฐœ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์˜๊ตญ์ธ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐœ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:21
a true /ษ’/, and we say an /ษ”ห/ sound. That's notย  actually an /ษ’/. So that's just one example withย ย 
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์ง„์ •ํ•œ /ษ’/์ด๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” /ษ”ห/ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” /ษ’/๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐœ์Œ์˜ ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๋ฉฐ
10:26
pronunciation, there are many between Britishย  and American English. Then you have vocabulary,ย ย 
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์˜๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด์™€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด ์‚ฌ์ด์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์–ดํœ˜๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:31
you know, for example. So just top of mind, oneย  word that would be different, for example, shag.ย ย 
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. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด shag์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋งŒ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์„ธ์š”.
10:36
Now, this is something that has a very differentย  meaning between the two countries, because if youย ย 
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์ž, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‘ ๋‚˜๋ผ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:40
say, you know, shag in the States, people tend toย  think of a type of carpet. It's a, the carpet thatย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ shag๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์นดํŽซ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:46
was very popular in the 1970s, that's super long.ย  But if you say this in, in the UK, it means thatย ย 
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1970๋…„๋Œ€์— ๋งค์šฐ ์ธ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์นดํŽซ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธธ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด
10:55
it's talking about sexual intercourse, of courseย  is a slang word for sexual intercourse. So veryย ย 
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์„ฑ๊ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์„ฑ๊ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์†์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ
11:00
different meanings there. Uh, and even there'sย  some cultural and, and cultural differences,ย ย 
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์—๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์ , ๋ฌธํ™”์  ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:06
of course, because they're, they're very differentย  countries and, and grammar differences that affectย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์ด๊ณ , ์–ต์–‘์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์  ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:11
the accent. The grammar, for example, uh, the,ย  the present perfect is used differently in Britishย ย 
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. ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์–ด, the, ํ˜„์žฌ ์™„๋ฃŒ๋Š” ์˜๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด์™€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:17
and American English. So as you can see, like anย  accent, it's not just about pronunciation. It'sย ย 
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. ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์•…์„ผํŠธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ฐœ์Œ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ• 
11:21
about so many different things that you have toย  consider. And if you really want to have a nativeย ย 
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์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
11:25
accent, if you really want to have an Americanย  accent, there's all of these things that areย ย 
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, ์ •๋ง ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ,
11:30
bundled up within that. And of course, English isย  the global language. So when it comes to accents,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์•ˆ์— ๋ฌถ์ธ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์˜์–ด๋Š” ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ณต์šฉ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์•…์„ผํŠธ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€
11:36
maybe you're not going to adopt an accent from aย  country where English isn't the native language,ย ย 
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์—์„œ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ฑ„ํƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„
11:40
but it is important as English is the globalย  language that you are prepared to understandย ย 
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์˜์–ด๋Š”
11:45
all sorts of different accents. Because withoutย  a doubt, if you're planning to work in English orย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์–ธ์–ด์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. . ์˜์‹ฌํ•  ์—ฌ์ง€ ์—†์ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ผํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
11:50
to travel to different places, you're going toย  have all these different ways of modifying theย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ์†Œ๋กœ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:56
English language thrown at you. So, for example,ย  you know, you might be working in a business andย ย 
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. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์‚ฌ์—…์ฒด์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜
12:02
you have a meeting with different, uh, branchesย  of your company. And there's someone in India,ย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์ ๊ณผ ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธ๋„์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
12:07
there's someone in Germany, there's someone inย  China, there's someone in the United States. Andย ย 
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๋…์ผ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
12:11
you need to be able to adapt to understanding allย  these different ways of interpreting the Englishย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ ์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:16
language. So one really great way to do this is byย  having conversations with people from many, manyย ย 
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. ์ด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:21
different countries. And a really great way to doย  that is with the RealLife English app, of course,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก  RealLife English ์•ฑ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์•ฑ์€
12:25
where it's the only place where at the touchย  of a button you can connect to another Englishย ย 
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12:30
learner in another part of the world for a fun andย  dynamic conversation. And the really great thing,ย ย 
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์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜์—ฌ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ  ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์ ์€
12:35
they're just four to eight minutes each. So, youย  know, after each conversation, you're jumping toย ย 
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๊ฐ๊ฐ 4~8๋ถ„์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
12:39
another part of the world virtually. It's almostย  like, you know, virtually grabbing your passportย ย 
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๊ฐ€์ƒ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ถŒ์„ ๋“ค๊ณ 
12:44
and taking a trip around the world. So you'llย  get to encounter all these different accentsย ย 
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ผ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์–ต์–‘์„ ์ ‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ
12:47
and you're really going to be tuning your ears toย  so many different ways of speaking. So, you know,ย ย 
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์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ,
12:52
even if your goal is to speak like an nativeย  speaker, it's still really good to focus onย ย 
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๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ์ง€๋ผ๋„ ,
12:55
understanding all sorts of different, uh, English.ย  And this can also kind of put to the test on like,ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์–ด, ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
13:01
how clear is your pronunciation. Because youย  want to find out if a lot of different people,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฐœ์Œ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ์ง€ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋””์—์„œ
13:05
no matter where they're coming from, canย  understand you pretty clearly. Right?ย 
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์™”๋Š”์ง€์— ๊ด€๊ณ„์—†์ด ๊ท€ํ•˜๋ฅผ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ?
13:08
That's a great point actually. Yeah. So, um,ย  developing a new accent is something that happensย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ์Œ, ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
13:13
when you get exposed to that accent frequently.ย  So, um, what I think it's cool about this is that,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์•…์„ผํŠธ์— ์ž์ฃผ ๋…ธ์ถœ๋  ๋•Œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์Œ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€,
13:20
you know, if you reflect on the kinds ofย  movies you typically watch, or the kinds ofย ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š” ์˜ํ™”์˜ ์ข…๋ฅ˜,
13:25
series or music you listen to, or the kinds of, ofย  material that you normally consume in English, uh,ย ย 
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๋“ฃ๋Š” ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋‚˜ ์Œ์•…์˜ ์ข…๋ฅ˜, ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๋‹ค, ์–ด,
13:32
where is that English from, yeah, that you consumeย  most of the time? So usually your accent tends toย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์˜์–ด๋Š” ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋‚˜์š” ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์ผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š”
13:38
be influenced by that, by, uh, the type of Englishย  that you consume daily, because it connects alsoย ย 
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์˜์–ด์˜ ์œ ํ˜•์— ์˜ํ•ด ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ๊ณผ๋„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:44
with your identity. Think about it, if you consumeย  those videos or those topics frequently is becauseย ย 
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. ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด๋‚˜ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ž์ฃผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:51
they are relevant to you, so they connect to yourย  identity to your preferences. Yeah. So it's almostย ย 
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. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์–ด
13:56
like a child who grows up, you know, uh, in aย  family and the child tends to speak just likeย ย 
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, ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ์•„์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์ด๋Š”
14:02
the parents, you know, or the family, theย  immediate family around the child, becauseย ย 
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๋ถ€๋ชจ, ๋˜๋Š” ์•„์ด ์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ, ์ง๊ณ„ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:07
it's what you are exposed to daily. Soย  naturally you will sound more like yourย ย 
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์ผ์ผ. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:12
parents. So it's something similar to that.ย  Yeah. Your accent is heavily influenced by, uh,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์€, ์–ด,
14:18
what you consume daily in English. The main pointย  that we are trying to make here in this episode isย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์š”์ ์€
14:24
everybody has an accent, and you're free to letย  your accent in English change if you'd like,ย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์˜์–ด ์–ต์–‘์„ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:32
because first you're connected with your identityย  and then with other people. So by choosing,ย ย 
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๋จผ์ € ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
14:38
let's say, one specific type of Englishย  you wanna focus on this is connecting it toย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ํŠน์ • ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜์—ฌ ๋จผ์ € ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:43
your identity first. Once you do that, then youย  connect with other people by, uh, communicatingย ย 
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. ์ผ๋‹จ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์˜์‚ฌ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์ดํ•ดํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:48
with them and being understood by them. I just wanna take a quick parenthesis here, cuz Iย ย 
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. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๊ด„ํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:54
think that's so interesting. And I'm curious if itย  all, if people are new here, they might not knowย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๊ณณ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ์˜จ๋‹ค๋ฉด
14:58
that you have a great affinity, a great, like forย  American rock music, right? Do you think that yourย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ก ์Œ์•…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์นœํ™”๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๋‹น์‹ ์˜
15:04
accent, has at all been, you know, influenced byย  that genre of music and that maybe those artists,ย ย 
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์–ต์–‘์ด ์ „ํ˜€, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ ์Œ์•… ์žฅ๋ฅด์™€ ๊ทธ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค,
15:13
that way of speaking from that time period? Oh, absolutely. For sure. Because, you know,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์‹œ๋Œ€์˜ ๋งํˆฌ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์˜ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™•์‹คํžˆ. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
15:17
again, like, aside from the movies and theย  series, I love rock and roll, and, I don'tย ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์˜ํ™”์™€ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋กœํฐ๋กค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ž˜
15:23
know, I, I, growing up I had the dream of becomingย  a rock star, then I would imagine myself, youย ย 
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ ๋ก์Šคํƒ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฟˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:29
know, giving those talk shows, those interviewsย  as a rock star. So they do have a way of speaking.ย ย 
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ํ† ํฌ์‡ผ, ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋ก์Šคํƒ€๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:34
First, most of them come from the US, yeah, mostย  of the bands that I like to listen to. And yeah,ย ย 
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์ฒซ์งธ, ๊ทธ๋“ค ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์˜ ๋ฐด๋“œ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฒจ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ฐด๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ,
15:40
I mean, it's that way of speaking that you wannaย  sound cool, kind of more laid-back and yeah,ย ย 
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์ œ ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ณ  ์ข€ ๋” ๋Š๊ธ‹ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ,
15:46
because that album, when I wrote that song, Iย  was thinking about this, this, and that. So yeah,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์•จ๋ฒ”์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์ผ์„ ๋•Œ ์ด๊ฒƒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ, ์ €๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ,
15:51
definitely it was, um, a factor. But that's oneย  example of something that connects to who you are.ย 
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ์Œ, ์š”์ธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:57
I think that's a, that's a great example. Soย  you could have a, maybe you don't just wannaย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€
16:02
have an American accent, you wanna haveย  like an American rockstar accent, right?ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ก์Šคํƒ€ ์–ต์–‘ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
16:06
Yeah, exactly. You see, it's muchย  more than, than what it seems.ย 
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์˜ˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:10
So we had another interestingย  story from our producer, Ice T,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ๋“€์„œ Ice T์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:15
who is here in the studio listening to us as weย  speak. And he was sharing when we're preparingย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
16:21
for this episode that he had a friend, uh,ย  a friend who is married to an American whoย ย 
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์ด ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด,
16:28
has really fantastic Brazilian Portuguese.ย  Ice T, of course is also from Brazil. Soย ย 
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์ •๋ง ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๊ณผ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Ice T๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์ถœ์‹ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
16:33
he had a recent experience, and I'llย  let him tell you guys more about that.ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:39
Hey guys. So this friend of mine, she's marriedย  with an American guy and we were here in Brazilย ย 
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์–˜๋“ค ์•„. ์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚จ์ž์™€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์นด๋‹ˆ๋ฐœ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:44
for the carnival. So we were just speakingย  Portuguese and he was all the time askingย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
16:49
about his pronunciation. And he has amazingย  Portuguese, almost no American accent. So Iย ย 
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๊ทธ์˜ ๋ฐœ์Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌป๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์šด ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์–ต์–‘์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š”
16:56
asked him why did he do such effort to speak withย  no accent and trying to sound more Brazilian? Andย ย 
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๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ต์–‘ ์—†์ด ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๋” ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
17:06
he told me that it's because he wants toย  feel Brazilian, not just sound Brazilian,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์ธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
17:10
but feel Brazilian, and language is aย  very important aspect of that for him.ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์ธ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์–ด๋Š” ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ธก๋ฉด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:15
Yeah. So I feel like when I was a bit younger, myย  feelings were very similar when I was learning aย ย 
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ์˜ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ์•„์ฃผ ๋น„์Šทํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
17:21
language, probably even today to some extent. Butย  every time I was learning a language, anytime I'dย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„๋Š”์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค,
17:27
move somewhere, really, I wanted to learn the, theย  native language. And part of this was because Iย ย 
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์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ •๋ง ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
17:32
didn't want to feel like a foreigner. I didn'tย  want to open my mouth in a conversation with aย ย 
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์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ์ž…์„ ์—ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ 
17:37
stranger and for them right away to be like, oh,ย  this guy is an American, you know, he's, he's notย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ '์˜ค, ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด์•ผ, ๊ทธ๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋Š”,
17:42
from here and stuff. So I had this need to fitย  in and language was a way to fit in. And partย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ' ๋“ฑ์˜ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ ์‘ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด๋Š” ์ ์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
17:46
of that was sounding very native. My feelingsย  towards this have changed a little bit because,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋„ค์ดํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‚ด ๊ฐ์ •์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด,
17:52
well, I'm not learning languages so activelyย  nowadays, but it's also because I think a partย ย 
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์Œ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์š”์ฆ˜ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
17:59
of that was the language being wrapped up inย  some sense with my ego, not wanting peopleย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ ์ œ ์ž์•„์— ์‹ธ์—ฌ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๊ธฐ
18:03
to recognize me as someone who is different orย  being a foreigner or something like that. And Iย ย 
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๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ์ธ์‹ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
18:09
think nowadays I don't care so much about that. Inย  fact, even in some situations, if it's a stranger,ย ย 
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์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋„ ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š”
18:13
I don't really care because I'm not gonna seeย  them again. But in some situations, maybe you'reย ย 
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๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ณ„๋กœ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋Š”
18:17
meeting someone new or you go to a networkingย  event, or you go to wherever where you're meetingย ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํ‚น ํ–‰์‚ฌ์— ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
18:21
people and you're speaking for a little bit, youย  know, I'll be speaking Spanish for a little bit,ย ย 
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์ž ์‹œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž ์‹œ ๋™์•ˆ ์–ด๋Š ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ
18:25
say they're going to notice that I'm not fromย  here at some point, and they'll ask me like,ย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ 
18:32
where are you from? So in that case, it can beย  a nice icebreaker, especially because I'm, I'mย ย 
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์–ด๋””์„œ ์™”๋‹ˆ? ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ์ „ํ™˜์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์ €๋Š”
18:36
pretty shy and stuff when it comes to meeting newย  people. And so it opens up the whole thing about,ย ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ๋•Œ ์ˆ˜์ค์Œ์ด ๋งŽ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ด์–ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:41
about living in different places. You'll ask me aย  lot of follow up questions. So I even see nowadaysย ย 
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ํ›„์† ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š”
18:47
that having an accent in some cases can be anย  advantage. It can make you seem more exotic, forย ย 
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์•…์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์žฅ์ ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋” ์ด๊ตญ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:52
example. You know, you're not from here. That canย  be a negative thing, but it can also be a positiveย ย 
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ
18:56
thing. Where I come from is also a part of myย  identity. We were talking about identity, right?ย 
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๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๋‚ด ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
19:00
That's certainly true. And the same thingย  happened to me too when I was younger. I,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €, ์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š” ์˜์–ด์˜ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ
19:04
I think I used to be more obsessed with soundingย  a certain way in English, but as time passed,ย ย 
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๋” ์ง‘์ฐฉํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ
19:12
I realized that there are so many people who evenย  though they have an accent, like a clear, evenย ย 
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์–ต์–‘์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ 
19:18
strong accent, they can still sound intelligibleย  and clear. You know, you can understand everythingย ย 
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๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์–ต์–‘์ด๋ผ๋„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ๊ณ  ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ. ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜
19:25
they say, and they can use grammar correctly.ย  They can use vocabulary accurately, even though,ย ย 
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์˜ํ™”๋‚˜ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ต์ˆ™ํ•œ ์–ต์–‘์ด ์•„๋‹์ง€๋ผ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:31
the accent is not maybe what we are usedย  to hearing in the movies, for example,ย ย 
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19:35
or from native speakers. So nowadays, also, Iย  have become more, um, maybe more flexible aboutย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋”, ์Œ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋” ์œ ์—ฐํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:42
this. Yeah. And, you know, really focus on what isย  the message there? What is the interaction about?ย ย 
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. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‹ด๊ธด ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์— ์ •๋ง ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ? ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
19:49
Rather than what does this person sound like? You know, we're, we're all on our own journeys.ย ย 
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ์ž์˜ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:54
It doesn't matter where you're at on that journeyย  or what your goals are on that journey, we're all,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์—ฌ์ •์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์ •์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€๋Š” ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘
19:58
you know, just focus on you. So I thought it couldย  be interesting - I, I've had some experiencesย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ €๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:04
though, where I think at the same point, you doย  need to focus on it a little bit. We've talkedย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ง€์ ์—์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
20:09
about you, you used the word, uh, intelligibility.ย  Intelligibility, it's a hard word to say.ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด, ๋ช…๋ฃŒ์„ฑ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช…๋ฃŒ์„ฑ, ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ
20:14
It's a mouthful. Being intelligible. Yeah. What does that mean?ย 
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์ž…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ด์•ผ? ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๊ธฐ
20:18
It's a long word that is difficult toย  pronounce. It feels like her mouth is full,ย ย 
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์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ธด ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
20:22
because it's so many words and syllables,ย  yeah? That is a mouthful to speak.ย 
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๋‹จ์–ด์™€ ์Œ์ ˆ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ์ž…์ด ๊ฝ‰ ์ฐฌ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ฃ  ? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ํ•œ ์ž…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:25
So intelligibility is, is how easily you'reย  understood. And some people's accents can getย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ช…๋ฃŒ์„ฑ์€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ดํ•ด๋˜๋Š”์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์–ต์–‘์ด ๋ฐฉํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:29
in the way of that. So I think that there's aย  fine line there. You need to make sure that,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฏธ์„ธํ•œ ์„ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:34
again, we talked about, for example, going onย  your app or going somewhere else where you'reย ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์•ฑ์— ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ
20:37
speaking English with many different peopleย  to see, can people understand me? And if not,ย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด ๋ง์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
20:41
don't take it as like a, a hit to your ego orย  something. Take it as a piece of information of,ย ย 
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์ž์กด์‹ฌ์— ํƒ€๊ฒฉ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋“ฑ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” . ์ •๋ณด์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด์„ธ์š”.
20:46
okay, this is interesting. Like, what do I haveย  to improve? Why are they not understanding me?ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋„ค์š”. ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š” ? ์™œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
20:50
Ethan, you said something nice there:ย  A fine line. What's a fine line?ย 
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Ethan, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ข‹์€ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํŒŒ์ธ ๋ผ์ธ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ์žก์•„์•ผ ํ• 
20:54
A fine line we use when there's two thingsย  that you have to balance, right? And there'sย ย 
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๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์„ ์ด์ฃ  ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
21:00
a fine line between them. There's a line that youย  have to, it requires some tact, it requires someย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—๋Š” ๋ฏธ์„ธํ•œ ์„ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์„ ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์žฌ์น˜๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ
21:06
digging around and really feeling out to makeย  sure that you're in the right, the right side.ย ย 
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์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํŒŒ๊ณ ๋“ค๊ณ  ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ฐ์ •์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:11
That you have a good balance there between thoseย  two things. So there's the side where maybe beingย ย 
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์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๊ท ํ˜•์ด ์ž˜ ์žกํ˜€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
21:17
really focused on getting that native accent,ย  and there's the side where you don't care aboutย ย 
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๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด ์–ต์–‘์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ „ํ˜€ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:23
it at all. And there's a fine line where forย  most of us, we want to be more in the middle,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์ค‘๊ฐ„์— ๋” ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ์„ธํ•œ ์„ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:27
where maybe we don't wanna have a super strongย  accent, or at least we wanna have intelligibility.ย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋ช…๋ฃŒ์„ฑ์„ ์›ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:32
We don't wanna completely ignore that, right?ย  And when you don't strike that balance, it can,ย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฌด์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ๋งž์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด
21:36
it can hurt your, your connection with people.ย  And, actually it was interesting when I wasย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์†์ƒ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์‹ค ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€
21:41
living in Brazil myself, when I was living in Beloย  Horizonte, I had two instances of this in the, theย ย 
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์— ์‚ด ๋•Œ, ๋ฒจ๋ฃจ์˜ค๋ฆฌ์กด์น˜์— ์‚ด ๋•Œ ,
21:46
time I was living there. So one was, I made someย  Spanish friends there, and they were a couple,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์‚ด๋˜ ์‹œ์ ˆ์— ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋ช‡ ๋ช…์„ ์‚ฌ๊ท€์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•œ ์Œ์˜
21:51
a man and a woman. And the woman, she was like,ย  you know, so open and really enjoying herselfย ย 
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ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž์™€ ํ•œ ์—ฌ์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์ž๋Š”, ์•„์‹œ ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง ์ฆ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:56
speaking the language. And she, she adapted toย  it pretty well. And I'm sure she didn't have,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ฝค ์ž˜ ์ ์‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:00
people didn't, uh, confuse her with the native,ย  but she was having fun with it. She was tryingย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ๊ณผ ํ˜ผ๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
22:05
to sound Brazilian and everything. And she, sheย  seemed so natural when she spoke Portuguese. Theย ย 
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:11
guy on the other hand, he made no effort. He, he,ย  he was learning Portuguese and everything, so heย ย 
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ, ๊ทธ, ๊ทธ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด์™€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š”
22:16
knew, you know, he knew the words, he knew how to,ย  to speak it, maybe at a, at a lower intermediateย ย 
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์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ค‘ํ•˜์œ„
22:21
level, but he made no effort whatsoever to pickย  up the accent. And this made, when he spoke it,ย ย 
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์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ์ „ํ˜€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ• 
22:25
he spoke exactly the same as he would when he wasย  speaking Spanish. And this made him sound reallyย ย 
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๋•Œ์™€ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ๋ถ€์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:31
unnatural. And I think it hurt his ability toย  connect with Brazilians in the same way that hisย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์˜ ์—ฌ์ž ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์†์ƒ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:36
girlfriend could. Oh, and the other story I wasย  gonna share from this. So when I was in Brazil,ย ย 
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. ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ
22:40
I also like started learning French. I guess Iย  really wanted to give myself a hard time livingย ย 
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์ €๋„ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด๋„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ฉฐ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์— ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ํž˜๋“  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:43
in Brazil, learning Portuguese and also learningย  French. But I made a French friend there and weย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์ธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€์—ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
22:47
did language exchange where we'd, we'd switch offย  between French and and English. And he was kind ofย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด์™€ ์˜์–ด ์‚ฌ์ด๋ฅผ ์ „ํ™˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š”
22:54
the same thing that like, one day I, I asked him,ย  he had, uh, a fairly strong French accent. I said,ย ย 
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์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์–ด, ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€,
22:58
you know, uh, why don't you try to put on moreย  of an American accent? And I remember we wereย ย 
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์–ด, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๋” ์จ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋•Œ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
23:04
sitting down like having some burgers and, andย  he's like, oh, you know, I'll, I'll try it. Andย ย 
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ํ–„๋ฒ„๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ๋จน๋“ฏ์ด ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š”, ์˜ค, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ณผ๊ฒŒ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
23:08
he actually did, he sounded like really great,ย  like really, really American when he actuallyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ ธ์–ด์š”, ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
23:12
put some effort into it, I was like, why don'tย  you speak like that all the time? He's like,ย ย 
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๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์˜€์„ ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š”, ์™œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜, ์ด๋Ÿฐ
23:15
oh man, it's, it's so challenging. Like, I haveย  to really, really think about it. Well, there,ย ย 
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, ์ •๋ง ๋„์ „์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์—์„œ
23:19
there's two things that I wanted to kind of takeย  away from those stories is, on the one hand, itย ย 
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๋นผ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ , ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š”
23:24
was like the, the Spanish couple that one of themย  was willing to feel, feel silly and, and have funย ย 
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ ์ปคํ”Œ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ , ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ ,
23:29
with it. The other one wasn't like he, he was justย  insecure. He wasn't having fun with it at all. Heย ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•œ ๋ช…์€ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋‹ฌ๋ž๊ณ  ๊ทธ์ € ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š”
23:34
wasn't willing to make himself feel awkward orย  make himself seem foolish. And the other one isย ย 
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์ž์‹ ์„ ์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
23:39
putting the effort. So sometimes we use this termย  practice like you play. So I think when you're,ย ย 
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๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
23:46
if you're never trying to do that, and then youย  try to do it of adapting more to the accent,ย ย 
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ์ „ํ˜€ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์–ต์–‘์— ๋” ์ ์‘ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ 
23:50
imitating more using mimicry, then it's going toย  be really difficult because your, your mouth andย ย 
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ํ‰๋‚ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํ‰๋‚ด๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:55
your brain and everything aren't used to it. Butย  if you actually practice, you know, if when you'reย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‘๋‡Œ์™€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
24:00
home alone, or even when you're just watching aย  TV series, you really like how that actor speaksย ย 
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์ง‘์— ํ˜ผ์ž ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋‚˜ TV ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ์—๋„ ๊ทธ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์˜ ๋งํˆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค์–ด
24:05
and you stop it and you try to just imitate itย  a few times, and you, you do this every day,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋งŒํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ ํ‰๋‚ด๋ฅผ ๋‚ธ๋‹ค. , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งค์ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”
24:09
it's going to become easier. Your mouth's going toย  get used to it. Your brain will start, you know,ย ย 
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์‰ฌ์›Œ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž…์ด ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‘๋‡Œ๋Š”
24:14
picking up on that music more of the language. Soย ย 
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๊ทธ ์Œ์•…์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ง‘์–ด๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
24:18
I think that those are two things thatย  you can adapt more is the, the silliness,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋” ์ ์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์Œ, ์•ฝ๊ฐ„,
24:21
the willingness to seem a little bit like,ย  uh, a little bit foolish. Just have fun withย ย 
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์–ด, ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋ ค๋Š” ์˜์ง€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฆ๊ธฐ์„ธ์š”
24:26
it. It's part of the adventure. And also justย  putting in that effort when you're practicing,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจํ—˜์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
24:32
if that is something that's important to you. Guys, your voice is so powerful. Your voice isย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
24:37
so powerful, you know, play with it. You know,ย  you can make voices like this and then you canย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋†€์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์žˆ์ž–์•„, ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
24:41
go like this and you know, it's fun. Yeah. So Iย  guess people, some people are not open, yeah, to,ย ย 
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์•Œ์ž–์•„, ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์–ด. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:47
to do that. They, they, they, they, theyย  feel stupid. You know, think of yourself asย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”
24:52
an actor. Imagine you were an actor prepping forย  a role, and then you have to speak in a certainย ย 
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐฐ์—ญ์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š” . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ
24:57
way. That's what actors do. They modulate or theyย  modify their voices to match that accent or speakย ย 
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๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ์–ต์–‘๊ณผ ์ผ์น˜ํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜์ •ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
25:04
more closely to that accent. Think of yourselfย  as an actor. Yeah. And use your body, your voice,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์–ต์–‘์— ๋” ๊ฐ€๊น๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š” . ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชธ๊ณผ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ
25:09
yeah, to, uh, communicatie in various ways. This, this actually reminded me of, uh,ย ย 
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์ด, ์ด๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ, ์–ด,
25:14
a really funny scene from the movie Ingloriousย  Bastards. Have you seen that? (I have. ) I, I saidย ย 
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์˜ํ™” Inglorious Bastards์˜ ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ๋– ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? (I have. ) ๋‚˜, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
25:19
the scene is funny. I guess it's, it's, it's, it'sย  also pretty intense and stuff. So I dunno if funnyย ย 
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๊ทธ ์žฅ๋ฉด์ด ์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ฝค ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
25:24
is the right word, but kind of the situation isย  very interesting and in a sense funny because the,ย ย 
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์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๋‹จ์–ด์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:30
so, so there's a British guy who's spy, he's,ย  he's like spying on the, on the Germans. Andย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
25:38
he's with a, a German actress who is basically,ย  she's being a traitor to the Germans and she'sย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋…์ผ์ธ์˜ ๋ฐ˜์—ญ์ž์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
25:43
helping out the, the Americans. And then there'sย  a German colonel who, who walks in, like sits downย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์„ ๋•๋Š” ๋…์ผ ์—ฌ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
25:49
with and starts drinking with him. He notices theย  guy's accent is like a little bit off in German.ย ย 
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๊ทธ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•‰์•„ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋…์ผ ๋Œ€๋ น์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๋…์ผ์–ด์™€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:55
So this guy he's a spy, so he has to have, haveย  really, really, uh, advanced German, right? Butย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์ŠคํŒŒ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง, ์–ด, ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ๋…์ผ์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
26:03
his accent's a little off, and the guy gives anย  excuse. He says, oh, I'm from this small villageย ย 
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๊ทธ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์–ด๊ธ‹๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ณ€๋ช…์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค, ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฐ์†์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„์—์„œ ์™”์–ด์š”
26:06
called this in the mountains. Everyone thereย  speaks like this. And the guy buys it. The, theย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฐ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ,
26:10
colonel buys it, and they're, you know, they'reย  having a chat and everything and, and they'reย ย 
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๋Œ€๋ น์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์€, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ˆ˜๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋–จ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
26:15
laughing. So he's, he's the, the spy is doing aย  good job. But then they order drinks, and the guy,ย ย 
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์›ƒ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋Š”, ์ŠคํŒŒ์ด๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ˆ ์„ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ•˜๊ณ 
26:21
the, the British guy asks for glasses. So let's,ย  let's watch what happens when he asks for glassesย ย 
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๊ทธ ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์•ˆ๊ฒฝ์„ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์Œ๋ฃŒ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•ˆ๊ฒฝ์„ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค
26:27
for the drinks. So if you're just listening toย  the audio, you can't see what is happening inย ย 
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. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์˜ค๋””์˜ค๋งŒ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด ์žฅ๋ฉด ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:35
this scene. The English spy here asks for threeย  glasses, in German, of course. At the same time,ย ย 
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. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์˜๊ตญ ์ŠคํŒŒ์ด๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋…์ผ์–ด๋กœ ์„ธ ์ž”์„ ์š”๊ตฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋™์‹œ์—
26:43
he gestures three using his index, middle andย  ring fingers. That's the three fingers in theย ย 
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๊ฒ€์ง€, ์ค‘์ง€, ์•ฝ์ง€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์„ธ ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์† ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ธ ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:53
middle of the hand. However, Germans use theirย  thumb, index finger and middle finger to indicateย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋…์ผ์ธ์€ ์—„์ง€, ๊ฒ€์ง€, ์ค‘์ง€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ
26:54
the number three in a gesture with their hands.ย  So the difference is quite obvious, right? Soย ย 
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์†์œผ๋กœ ์ˆซ์ž 3์„ ํ‘œ์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•˜์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
26:55
this actually gives him away. We'll, let'sย  watch, there's a, another clip that I haveย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:00
here where the German actress explains whatย  happened, how he gave, how the British guyย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋…์ผ ์—ฌ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์˜๊ตญ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
27:05
gave himself away, which basically leads toย  a gunfight that this woman, uh, survived.ย ย 
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์ž์‹ ์„ ๋‚ด์–ด ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํด๋ฆฝ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์€ ์ด๊ฒฉ์ „์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:10
That's why she's, she's on a medical table. How the shooting start. Englishman gave himselfย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜๋ฃŒ ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ดฌ์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•. ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์€ ์ž์‹ ์„
27:17
away. How he do that? He ordered three glasses.ย  He ordered three glasses. That's the German three.ย ย 
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ํฌ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋Š” ์„ธ ์ž”์„ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์„ธ ์ž”์„ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋…์ผ 3์ธ๋ฐฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:28
The other looks odd. Germansย  would indeed notice it.ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋…์ผ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:34
Okay? So this is really interesting. I saw thisย  movie after having lived in Germany. So actuallyย ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋…์ผ์— ์‚ด๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ด ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
27:39
this is something that I knew and I saw, the firstย  time I saw this that he gestured like, and likeย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ณด์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ชธ์ง“์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
27:44
you said, as soon as he made the face, I realizedย  that it's, oh, the guy did that at the numbers inย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ž๋งˆ์ž ์ €๋Š” ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:49
the wrong way. So this is something that's, it'sย  a really interesting example. Again, this guy,ย ย 
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์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
27:55
he has a good accent. He's, he's able to get awayย  with being a native speaker. He speaks excellent,ย ย 
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์–ต์–‘์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ๋˜์–ด๋„ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:01
you know, he's, he's not making grammar mistakes.ย  He speaks the language just like a native would,ย ย 
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:04
more or less. But he gave himself away becauseย  he was lacking in some cultural insight about howย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ˆซ์ž๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํฌ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:11
they show the numbers, something so simple, right?ย  And these kind of things happen all the time in aย ย 
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•˜์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ์€ ์–ธ์–ด์—์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:16
language. So it's, it's really interesting, smallย  thing. But there's other things like this too.ย ย 
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. ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ณ  ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:20
For example, I've met a lot of English learners orย  English speakers, non-native English speakers whoย ย 
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž,
28:26
have exceptional skills in the language, andย  they really sound like a native, but they'reย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด์— ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ
28:31
lacking some cultural insights. For example,ย  cursing too much, cursing too lightly, dependingย ย 
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๋ฌธํ™”์  ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•œ ๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ ์˜์–ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ์š•ํ•œ๋‹ค, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ฒŒ ์š•ํ•œ๋‹ค,
28:36
of course where you go, uh, within, even withinย  a country, maybe different parts of the country,ย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์–ด๋””๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋Š๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ, ์–ด, ์•ˆ์—์„œ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ํ•œ ๋‚˜๋ผ ์•ˆ์—์„œ๋„, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด
28:42
people will curse more lightly in different partsย  of the country people will not curse at all. Youย ย 
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๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋‘.
28:47
know, it's kind of really seen as taboo. So thisย  depends a lot. I know that happens, for example,ย ย 
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ธˆ๊ธฐ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
28:51
in Spain, if you go to the south, they'reย  much more, it's much more common, much more,ย ย 
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚จ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด, ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํ”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋”
28:56
people are much more liberal with their cursing.ย  But in the north of the country, people tend toย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์š•์„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถ๋ถ€ ์ง€๋ฐฉ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
29:01
be more tactful with their cursing. So this isย  something that I've seen that's kind of like a,ย ย 
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์š•์„ ๋” ์žฌ์น˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:06
it's a giveaway for some non-native Englishย  speakers because they're not tactful. Theyย ย 
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์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์š”๋ น์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฒฝํ’ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
29:11
haven't really learned, they don't associate theย  curse words the same way they would in their,ย ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ  ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด์—์„œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์š•์„ค์„ ์—ฐ๊ด€์‹œํ‚ค์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:15
their mother tongue. So that's another exampleย  of something you need to be careful about.ย 
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. ์ฃผ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ
29:18
I guess that's why we say that it'sย  a life thing. It's a lifelong processย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ถ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ‰์ƒ์˜ ๊ณผ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:24
because no matter how advanced you are orย  how clearlyor great you sound, there is all,ย ย 
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ–ˆ๋“ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋“  ์ƒ๊ด€
29:29
there's always gonna be something that you didn'tย  know or that you learn. Yeah. So yeah. Embracingย ย 
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์—†์ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ชฐ๋ž๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐฐ์›€์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ
29:35
the learning like that, yeah, That it's for life. So we thought it would be really interesting toย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ
29:41
actually look at some non-natives who speakย  English well. And there's a lot of celebrities,ย ย 
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์ž˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
29:47
right, who can be really great models for this.ย  We wanted to look at someone who communicatesย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์„
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really well, but has a very strong accentย  from his country. And we wanted to look atย ย 
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์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ ์–ต์–‘์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
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someone who has a more native-like accent. Soย  first of all, we have a clip with an interviewย ย 
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๋” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋จผ์ €
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with Arnold Schwartzenegger, has a very famousย  ac..., uh, accent. I'm sure everyone listeningย ย 
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Arnold Schwartzenegger์™€์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ํด๋ฆฝ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ AC..., ์–ด, ์•…์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด
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is aware of it, but let's take a look. Jim Cameron is just a genius writer. Becauseย ย 
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์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง ์นด๋ฉ”๋ก ์€ ์ฒœ์žฌ ์ž‘๊ฐ€์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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to come up with this idea to make the Terminatorย  become a protector that hangs out with this kid,ย ย 
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํ„ฐ๋ฏธ๋„ค์ดํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์•„์ด์™€ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ณดํ˜ธ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๋– ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
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and because of that relationship, he startsย  learning human behavior, how to be more coolย ย 
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๊ทธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„ ํ–‰๋™, ๋” ๋ฉ‹์žˆ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•,
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and how to high five and, you know, and howย  to say certain things, certain sayings andย ย 
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ํ•˜์ดํŒŒ์ด๋ธŒํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ๋ง, ์–ด๋–ค ๋ง, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
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all this made it very, very precious, Iย  think, because he was trying very hard.ย 
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งค์šฐ, ๋งค์šฐ ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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So even if you're just listening to the audio,ย  this podcast, and I had not told you who this was,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์˜ค๋””์˜ค๋งŒ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋”๋ผ๋„
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you would know right away by that accentย  who that is. Right? It's just so iconic.ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์–ต์–‘์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ? ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ƒ์ง•์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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But it's very clear, he's, it'sย  very clear he's not American, right?ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
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Despite that. One thing that I think is reallyย  interesting here is he does have a very masterfulย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ . ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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use of the language, many of the aspects of theย  language, the same way that a native would, right?ย ย 
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Um, for example, connected speech, Iย  thought we could look at, at some ofย ย 
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์Œ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ์—ฐ์„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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the ways he said different things. So I noticedย  for example, that he says in the beginning, uh,ย ย 
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. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์— ์–ด,
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he doesn't say "just a", he says "just-uh". Jim Cameron is just a genius writer.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ "๊ทธ๋ƒฅ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  "๊ทธ๋ƒฅ-์–ด"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง ์นด๋ฉ”๋ก ์€ ์ฒœ์žฌ ์ž‘๊ฐ€์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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That's, that's exactly how a, a nativeย  would say that, right? "Just a" ,turningย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? "Just a" ,
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that - we talked about the schwa soundย  earlier - so turning that a into a schwa,ย ย 
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turning - ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์ „์— schwa ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ that a๋ฅผ schwa๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋ฉด
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this is definitely something people who masterย  English really have that schwa sound down. "Justย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์Šคํ„ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ schwa ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
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uh". He says to come up with talking about the,ย  the director or the, the, the, the person who cameย ย 
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์–ด". ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ„ฐ๋ฏธ๋„ค์ดํ„ฐ 2์˜ ๋Œ€๋ณธ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋‚ธ ๊ฐ๋…์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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up with the script for Terminator two. Because to come up with this idea toย ย 
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. ํ„ฐ๋ฏธ๋„ค์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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make the Terminator. So to come up with,ย ย 
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. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ to come up with,
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he doesn't say "to come up with" - this happensย  with phrasal verbs a lot. Phrasal verbs prettyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” "to come up with"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ๋Š”
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much always have this connected speech, right?ย  So he says "to come up with" reducing the,ย ย 
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ์Œ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ–์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” To๋ฅผ ์Šˆ์™€ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ์ค„์—ฌ์„œ "to come up with"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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the To to a schwa sound. Come up with. Even the meaning of that phrasal verb, yeah, toย ย 
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. ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋‚ด๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ ์˜ˆ,
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come up with something. This is something thatย  a typical native would, would speak, right,ย ย 
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋‚ด๋‹ค์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๊นŒ์ง€. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋งํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
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or would say. Yeah. He doesn't, he didn't say, oh,ย  uh, he created the script, or he wrote the script.
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๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋ณธ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€๋ณธ์„ ์ผ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Or he invented it would be a lot of... He invented it. Right. Yeah. So even that,ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค... ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ. ์‘. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„
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like the use of the phrasal verb. I also notice too, something else he uses aย ย 
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๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด American T๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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lot is the American T, which is is, a lot of, evenย  a lot of people who have really masterful use ofย ย 
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์ฆ‰, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด
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the language that are living in the States mightย  not adopt this American T. So he has an accent,ย ย 
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American T๋ฅผ ์ฑ„ํƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์–ต์–‘์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
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but he still has adopted this American T onย  the words he says. So things like writer,ย ย 
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์— ์ด American T๋ฅผ ์ฑ„ํƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž‘๊ฐ€, ํ„ฐ๋ฏธ๋„ค์ดํ„ฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ
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Terminator. So a British person would say, writer,ย  terminator. Probably not. That's like a horribleย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์€ ์ž‘๊ฐ€, ํ„ฐ๋ฏธ๋„ค์ดํ„ฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์•„๋งˆ ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋”์ฐํ•œ
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impersonation, but more or less. The final one Iย  took note of was he said, "how to be more cool".ย 
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๋ช…์˜ ๋„์šฉ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์†Œ๊ฐ„ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ "๋” ๋ฉ‹์žˆ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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How to be more cool. So there's an American T here,ย ย 
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๋” ๋ฉ‹์ ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— American T๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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there's linking: how to be, how to beย  more cool, how to be. And he, he saidย ย 
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๋งํฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š”
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this several times. So it's another importantย  thing to notice here is that he has reallyย ย 
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์ด ๋ง์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฒˆ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€
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learned this specific chunk, right? It's importantย  to learn word chunks, not to just learn individualย ย 
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์ด ํŠน์ • ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์› ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ์Œ์„ฑ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋‹จ์–ด ๋ฉ์–ด๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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words, which is much more difficult to learnย  connected speech, to learn how the words kindย ย 
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33:18
of flow together if you're just learning word byย  word. But he said over and over again, this how toย ย 
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๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‹จ์–ด ๋‹จ์œ„๋กœ ํ•™์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋‹จ์–ด ์ข…๋ฅ˜๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ๋ฅด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
33:23
be, how to be, how to be. So he really has thatย  chunk down that it's not supposed to be "how toย ย 
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, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” "์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€"๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ "
33:26
be" supposed to be "how to be, how to be", right? I think Arnold is a great example of someone whoย ย 
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฉ์–ด๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ €๋Š” Arnold๊ฐ€ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:33
speaks with an accent. Clearly heย  speaks with an accent, but, you know,ย ย 
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. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์–ต์–‘์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
33:36
his proficiency level of English is great. Youย  know, he uses great phrasal verbs and words,ย ย 
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๊ทธ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ์™€ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉ
33:43
and the way he uses grammar as well. So, uh, youย  can still communicate confidently and naturally,ย ย 
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์–ด, ์–ต์–‘์ด ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:50
even though you have an accent. Yeah. So here,ย  not even though you have an accent, but evenย ย 
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. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ๋Š” ์–ต์–‘์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
33:55
though you have a strong accent, let's say. And I, I'm pretty sure I've heard someย ย 
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์–ต์–‘์ด ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ง์„ ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์™€ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์€ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
33:58
different interviews with him, and I'm prettyย  sure that this is something intentional.ย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๋„์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:03
He used that as like a calling card, his accent.ย  He took advantage of that to differentiate himselfย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ „ํ™” ์นด๋“œ, ๊ทธ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ• ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ฐจ๋ณ„ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ด์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:08
from everyone else in Hollywood. Even laterย  going on to be governor of California. He was,ย ย 
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. ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„ ์ฃผ์ง€์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š”,
34:13
he was very famous for this, he's just such anย  iconic person. He has, he's a, he's a big guy too,ย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋ช…ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ •๋ง ์ƒ์ง•์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ํฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
34:18
right? And he has this present and the accent justย  really a, it really adds on top of his identityย ย 
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๋งž์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด ํ˜„์žฌ์™€ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ ์œ„์— ์ •๋ง ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:23
like we were talking about, right? So that'sย  something to, to, to reflect on, right, is maybeย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ˜์„ฑํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:29
my accent is an interesting part of my identity. And you don't wanna lose it. Right?ย 
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์ œ ์–ต์–‘์€ ์ œ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žƒ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ?
34:35
Exactly. If you're from Brazil, for example,ย  you might say that's an important part of whoย ย 
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ๊ฐ€ ์˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:39
I am. I was born in Brazil, I want peopleย  to know that I was in Brazil. So I'm goingย ย 
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ช…๋ฃŒ๋„์— ์ •๋ง
34:43
to dawn a very Brazilian accent, even thoughย  I'm going to really focus on intelligibility.ย ย 
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์ง‘์ค‘ํ•  ๊ฑด๋ฐ๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์‹ ์–ต์–‘์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:50
All right, so we mentioned that we were going toย  also look at someone who has a more native-likeย ย 
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์ž, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:54
accent. You can probably still, if you pay closeย  attention, tell that she isn't a native, but she,ย ย 
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. ์„ธ์‹ฌํ•œ ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๋ฉด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
35:01
she has very excellent, excellent accent inย  English. So let's take a look at Gisele Bรผndchen.ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์–ต์–‘์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ด์ œ Gisele Bรผndchen์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:06
And by the way, is it true you gave a copy of theย  Mastery of Love to all of your wedding guests atย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์‹ ์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ฐ๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ Mastery of Love ์‚ฌ๋ณธ์„ ์ค€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ๊ฐ€์š”
35:10
your wedding? Yes, I have. It's one of myย  favorite books. And today, what is a bookย ย 
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? ๋„ค, ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฑ… ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜,
35:13
that you would give friends and family? The lastย  one I read, uh, is called The Infinite View. Haveย ย 
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์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ฑ…์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ฝ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด, The Infinite View์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:19
you read it? I have not read that, no. I haveย  an extra copy. Would you like one? Oh! Well,ย ย 
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์ฝ์–ด๋ณด์…จ๋‚˜์š”? ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ณธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋“œ๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”? ์˜ค! ์Œ,
35:22
thank you. Yeah, sure. Right here. Oh, allย  right. This is my, uh, summer reading. Andย ย 
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—. ์•„, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ, ์–ด, ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ๋…์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š”
35:27
how would you describe yourself to peopleย  who don't know you? Loving, creative, andย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ? ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ด๋ฉฐ
35:32
my natural speed is about a hundred miles an hour. All right. One thing interesting, I I noticed isย ย 
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์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์†๋„๋Š” ์‹œ์† ์•ฝ 100๋งˆ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฐ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€
35:38
that, you know, the pronunciation of certainย  words. Like, you know, she pronounces book,ย ย 
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ํŠน์ • ๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ๋ฐœ์Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:42
uh, Brazilian learners typically say book,ย  book, you know, book or even booky, depending,ย ย 
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์Œ, ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ํ•™์Šต์ž๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฑ…, ์ฑ…, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ฑ… ๋˜๋Š” ์ฑ…์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ
35:51
but book, yeah. My books. But you know,ย  she pronounces it correctly. The word.ย ย 
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์ฑ…์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ฑ…๋“ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์–ด.
35:56
Yeah. The pronunciation book. The book, book. Yes, I have, it's one of my favorite books.ย 
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์‘. ๋ฐœ์Œ์ฑ…. ์ฑ…, ์ฑ…. ์˜ˆ, ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฑ… ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:00
So she's really learned those individual,ย  I believe you say phonemes, right,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ฐœ๋ณ„์ ์ธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:04
like the individual sounds really well. And sheย  does the connected speech really well, as, asย ย 
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๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ์—ฐ์„ค์„ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
36:10
well. We don't have to go into all of it, butย  at the end, for example, it really stuck outย ย 
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. ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃฐ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์— ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
36:14
to me that for various reasons that she said "aย  hundred miles an hour, a hundred miles an hour."ย 
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ "์‹œ์† 100๋งˆ์ผ, ์‹œ์† 100๋งˆ์ผ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:19
My natural speed is about a hundred miles an hour. On the one hand that she comes from Brazil, whereย ย 
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๋‚ด ์ž์—ฐ ์†๋„๋Š” ์‹œ์† ์•ฝ 100๋งˆ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
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you don't use, uh, you use kilometers, not miles,ย  right? There's just, she, she's mastered the schwaย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์—์„œ ์˜จ๋‹ค, ์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งˆ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ํ‚ฌ๋กœ๋ฏธํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์Šˆ์™€
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sound also, right? A hundred miles an hour, andย  there's all sorts of connected speech in there.ย ย 
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๋งˆ์Šคํ„ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์ฃ ? ์‹œ์† 100๋งˆ์ผ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ์—ฐ์„ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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So, uh, yeah, that's, that's really fantastic.ย  You couldn't say one of them speaks English betterย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์–ด, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ด์•ผ. ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๊ฒ ์ฃ 
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than the other, right? We could put (No.) themย  both down for a test maybe and, and, and actuallyย ย 
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? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‚ด๋ ค๋†“์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š”
36:45
test their, their English abilities, but atย  face value, right, they both seem to have reallyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์˜์–ด ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์•ก๋ฉด๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ •๋ง
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exceptional mastery of the language. Yeah. And they have both, they haveย ย 
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๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ์–ธ์–ด ์ˆ™๋‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ,
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both used, uh, English to advance theirย  careers, you know, their lives. Yeah. So,ย ย 
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๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด, ์–ด, ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ,
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you know, in, we can see that language at leastย  nowadays is not a barrier for either of them.ย ย 
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ ์–ด๋„ ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์žฅ๋ฒฝ์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:06
Yeah. So, I guess one takeaway also that weย  can have here is what's the identity you wantย ย 
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‹œ์‚ฌ์ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:12
to craft for yourself? Because, you know, youย  can have a stronger accent and still, you know,ย ย 
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๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์–ต์–‘์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„
37:17
communicate confidently. Or you can maybe haveย  a more native-like accent and also communicateย ย 
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์ž์‹  ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
37:22
confidently. But what do you want? Yeah. What'sย  the identity that you want to create for yourself?ย ย 
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์ž์‹  ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์‘. ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
37:26
By the way, we're gonna discuss more about that,ย  but just after a message to some of our listeners.ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ธ ์งํ›„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:34
All right. And we have now aย  5-star review from Jessica.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์ด์ œ Jessica์˜ ๋ณ„์  5์  ๋ฆฌ๋ทฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:30
Alright, now it's time for the RealLife Wayย  moment. And Ethan, I would first of all sayย ย 
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์ž, ์ด์ œ RealLife Way ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Ethan, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„
39:35
that it's important to live your English daily.ย  Yeah. So, um, if you're not leaving your Englishย ย 
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๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ƒํ™œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์Œ, ์•„์ง ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
39:41
already, you have to start there. Yeah. Soย  ideally you are consuming lots of contentย ย 
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ์ด์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ 
39:47
in English already, but then what is the nextย  step? The next step is reflect and ask yourselfย ย 
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ? ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ๋ฐ˜์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์ด ์†Œ๋น„ํ•œ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
39:54
what kind of English have I been consumingย  most? Because in my case, for example, uh,ย ย 
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๋‚ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š”, ์–ด,
40:00
it was always maybe easy for me to figure thatย  out because I looked at the movies I watched andย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ์˜ํ™”์™€
40:06
the series I watched and the bands I listenedย  to, and most of them were Americans. Yeah. Soย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ๋ฐด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์‰ฌ์› ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด์— ๋” ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘๊ธฐ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ 
40:12
it was a natural thing that happened to me inย  terms of choosing maybe to base my English moreย ย 
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์—์„œ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
40:18
on American English. Yeah. And then I developedย  this affinity mostly because of the content thatย ย 
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. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ด ์„ ํ˜ธ๋„๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ
40:24
I was consuming already when I was, uh, learningย  English. So that's the point. Living your Englishย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ ์ด๋ฏธ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ  ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์š”์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:29
if you're not doing it yet. What else wouldย  you say about the RealLife Way here, Ethan?ย 
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์•„์ง ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋ฉด ์˜์–ด ์ƒํ™œ์„ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ RealLife ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, Ethan?
40:33
So we've been talking a lot about identity, right?ย  Which is part of connecting English to your life,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ์ด๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ถ์— ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
40:39
connecting your life to English. And one thingย  that I used to do with my students, for example,ย ย 
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์‚ถ์„ ์˜์–ด์— ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š”
40:45
which would help them to build more of thisย  identity, was actually having them, you know,ย ย 
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ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์„ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋˜ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ
40:50
when you learn your native language,ย  all of us have our mother or our father,ย ย 
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๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋‚˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
40:54
we talked about this earlier, right? That we'reย  exposed to them a lot. We tend to end up speakingย ย 
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์•„๊นŒ ์–˜๊ธฐํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ๋…ธ์ถœ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ
40:58
a lot like them. We end up speaking a lot like ourย  friends that we spend the most time with and soย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:01
on. And even the people that we see on TV who weย  admire. So I would have my students deliberatelyย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์กด๊ฒฝํ•˜๋Š” TV์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊นŒ์ง€๋„์š” . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ
41:07
choose an English-speaking mother and father.ย  For example, I had one student who loved Oprah,ย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์™€ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š” Oprah๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ํ•™์ƒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
41:12
and she loved Oprah's way of speaking.ย  Oprah is like a really great speaker,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” Oprah์˜ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋‚˜์ €๋‚˜ ์˜คํ”„๋ผ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์—ฐ์‚ฌ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
41:15
by the way. So it was a great choice, but sheย  chose her as her English-speaking mother. Soย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ ํƒ์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋กœ ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
41:20
she would watch interviews with Oprah every singleย  week. She'd listen to her podcast and so on. Andย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งค์ฃผ ์˜คํ”„๋ผ์™€์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
41:25
she would mimic the way that Oprah spoke. And itย  was like amazing because over the, the weeks andย ย 
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜คํ”„๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํ‰๋‚ด๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
41:29
the months that we were doing class together, herย  English started sounding more and more Americanย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ, ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ ์  ๋” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
41:33
and like specifically, specifically like Oprah.ย  So it can be really powerful if you really focusย ย 
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ํŠนํžˆ Oprah์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:40
in like that into one person who you really likeย  the way that they speak. Maybe you really likeย ย 
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. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
41:43
Thiago's English, maybe you're, you know, you'reย  Brazilian, you're like, oh, just like, uh, the,ย ย 
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ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€, ์•„์‹œ ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:47
the learner that we talked about at the beginning,ย  they're like, oh, I really wanna speak likeย ย 
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, ์ •๋ง ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”
41:50
Thiago. You could be listening to this. Or maybeย  you wanna speak like me. You could be listeningย ย 
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‚˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
41:54
to this and trying to mimic us, trying to soundย  more like we speak, or it doesn't even have to be,ย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ‰๋‚ด๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:59
it could be someone famous. It could be Giseleย  Bรผndchen, it could be Arnold Schwarzenegger,ย ย 
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. Gisele Bรผndchen์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  Arnold Schwarzenegger์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
42:03
maybe someone wants to sound, sound like that.ย  It can be a native speaker, of course. So justย ย 
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. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
42:09
having more of a deliberate focus on thatย  identity side of it, of who is that fluent,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์— ๋” ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์œ ์ฐฝํ•˜๊ณ 
42:16
natural, confident version of me speaking English?ย  What do they sound like? And being more deliberateย ย 
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์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ผ๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
42:21
about seeking out how you can get closer to that. I love this idea of having a, an English-speakingย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
42:27
mother or father. Yeah. And the cool thingย  is that you can have multiple fathers andย ย 
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์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋‚˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ ์€ ์ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
42:31
multiple mothers in this case. Right? So Iย  guess the question is who is, or who are yourย ย 
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. ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€, ๋˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜
42:37
English-speaking fathers and mothers? The otherย  people who you look up to and you go like, oh,ย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์šฐ๋Ÿฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ณด๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ '์˜ค,
42:41
I wanna sound like that. I wanna speak likeย  that. So let me imitate them a little bit.ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š” . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ํ‰๋‚ด๋‚ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:46
And that basically feeds back into livingย  it again, right? Because you're being moreย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ƒํ™œ์— ํ”ผ๋“œ๋ฐฑ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋”
42:49
deliberate. So you're, you're starting toย  filter more the things that you're livingย ย 
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์˜๋„์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฑธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
42:53
your English with by having those veryย  specific. And you can make that time,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
42:59
even you, you could even use it to activateย  it, which another part of the real life way,ย ย 
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ƒํ™œ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€,
43:03
by using those times to deliberately be thoseย  people recording yourself, comparing that toย ย 
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๊ทธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ณ ์˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋˜๋„๋ก ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„
43:08
the original and so on. So depending on whatย  your goals are, of course you've got to knowย ย 
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์›๋ณธ๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜๋Š” ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋ฌผ๋ก 
43:12
your goals. But if you're really wanting toย  have that native-like accent, or you reallyย ย 
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๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ์›์–ด๋ฏผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ •๋ง
43:15
wanna have an accent like such and such person,ย  then this is a great way for you to get started.ย ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ์ €๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:22
Let's jump into today's Big Challenge. So today weย  want to challenge you to actually sit down - couldย ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ๋น… ์ฑŒ๋ฆฐ์ง€๋กœ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋“œ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์•‰์•„์„œ -
43:30
just be for a few minutes - and actually reflectย  a bit about this whole question of identity andย ย 
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๋ช‡ ๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ์ด๋ผ๋„ - ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ๊ณผ ์–ต์–‘์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋„์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
43:35
accent. So we have some questions here that youย  could use for, you know, jumping off points forย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
43:41
your reflection. First of all, you might haveย  come into this podcast with a certain perspective,ย ย 
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. ์šฐ์„ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํŠน์ • ๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋“ค์–ด์™”์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:47
maybe even a certain reason that you were drawnย  into listening to this podcast because you want toย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์„œ ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์ด์œ ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€
43:52
have a native-like accent, or maybe you don't, itย  could have just been curiosity. So is it importantย ย 
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์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด
43:56
for you to sound like a native? That's somethingย  to, for you to think about. We would love to hearย ย 
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๋„ค์ดํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
44:01
why or why not. You can let us know down in theย  comments if you're watching this on YouTube,ย ย 
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์ด์œ  ๋˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. YouTube์—์„œ ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ์˜ค๋””์˜ค
44:06
or you can send us an email if you're justย  listening to the audio: [email protected].ย ย 
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๋งŒ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด [email protected]์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š” .
44:11
And one thing that we're really curious about isย  whether or not your mind might have changed whileย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์ด ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•„๋‹Œ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
44:18
listening to this. You can also let us knowย  why your mind changed or why you still thinkย ย 
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. ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๋ณ€ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋‚˜ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
44:22
the same. So yeah, we're really looking forwardย  to hearing your answers. Helps us become betterย ย 
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. ๋„ค, ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๋” ์ž˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
44:28
to what we do. Do you have any last words,ย  Thiago, before we wrap up today's podcast,ย ย 
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. ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ , ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•  ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
44:32
which is already becoming quite long winded. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, one final message I have is maybe,ย ย 
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์‘. ์‘. ์–ด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋Š” ์–ต์–‘
44:39
you know, don't obsess so much about yourย  accent, but worry more about becoming a betterย ย 
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์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์„ธ์š”
44:44
communicator. By becoming a better communicator,ย  you speak English better and you also speakย ย 
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. ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์ž๊ฐ€ ๋จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ 
44:49
your native language better. What do I mean byย  communication skills? The way you use your voice,ย ย 
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๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์‚ฌ ์†Œํ†ต ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹,
44:54
you know, modulate more, go up a little bit andย  then go down, the way you use positives whenย ย 
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋” ์กฐ์ ˆํ•˜๊ณ , ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์œ„๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๋ฉฐ, ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ธ์ •์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
45:00
you speak. Yeah. Or the way you use your bodyย  language or gestures or facial expressions, theย ย 
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. ์‘. ๋˜๋Š” ์‹ ์ฒด ์–ธ์–ด, ๋ชธ์ง“ ๋˜๋Š” ์–ผ๊ตด ํ‘œ์ •์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹,
45:06
way you project your voice. Because maybe if youย  speak like this, you know, your voice is a littleย ย 
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๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹. ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
45:11
bit weak and airy, you know, you might not soundย  or feel so confident when you speak, you know,ย ย 
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์•ฝํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ์พŒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์ด ์—†์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:15
so also learning how to project your voice. Soย  I guess working on your, on your communicationย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํˆฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ ์–ต์–‘์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค
45:21
skills might actually be more beneficial to youย  than obsessing so much about sounding like thatย ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ์œ ์ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
45:27
native accent that you're trying to sound like. It's a great place for us to wrap up,ย ย 
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.
45:32
not just the accent that you're trying to have,ย  but actually just like Thiago said, the way you'reย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์–ต์–‘๋ฟ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ‹ฐ์•„๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
45:38
communicating. And you said body language, theย  way that you're holding yourself when you're in,ย ย 
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์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ชธ์ง“ ์–ธ์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ถ™์žก๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:42
because if you seem really shy, if you seem reallyย  insecure, you're communicating something, even ifย ย 
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ•ด ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:47
you have the perfect accent, even if you don'tย  open your mouth, right? So be aware of all theseย ย 
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž…์„ ๋ฒŒ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“ 
45:52
things because they're, they're all so important.ย  It's all about communication, the accent you have,ย ย 
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์‚ฌํ•ญ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์œ ์˜ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์˜์‚ฌ ์†Œํ†ต, ์–ต์–‘, ๋ฐœ์Œ
45:56
how you pronounce things, how intelligible youย  are, but also things like how do you seem likeย ย 
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ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•, ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ์ •๋„ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
46:01
someone who's confident? Do you seem like someoneย  who's approachable and friendly and all theseย ย 
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์ž์‹ ๊ฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋‚˜์š”? ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ๊ณ  ์นœ๊ทผํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋‚˜์š”?
46:05
things. And definitely I can say from personalย  experience, you might say the same for yourย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์˜์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋ฅผ
46:09
English, I bet, that learning other languages forย  me helped me to also become a better communicatorย ย 
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์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋กœ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์žฅ๋‹ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
46:14
in my native language. So think of it as a hugeย  opportunity for yourself. And that's a great placeย ย 
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. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š” . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
46:19
for us to end, I think is very deserving of anย  Aww. Yeah. So 1, 2, 3. (Aww,) Aww yeah. (yeah.)
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚ด๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ์žฅ์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์•„์•„. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 1, 2, 3. (์•„์šฐ) ์•„ ์˜ˆ. (์‘.)
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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