Can you Speak English like a Native and... SHOULD YOU?

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Oh yeah! What's up everybody? I'm Ollie!  Your RealLife English fluency coach.
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So, this lesson is about why you don’t need  to speak like a native to be a confident,  
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fluent English speaker.
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But, before we get into that,  
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ask yourself this very important question:  “Is it even possible to speak LIKE a native?”
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Well, in my humble opinion, yes you  can get to a level that’s pretty close  
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to that of a native speaker, but it  requires a lot of hard work and dedication!
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So, it’s largely dependent on whether or not  you can or want to put in that work. But,  
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let’s not get ahead of ourselves.  We’ll cover that in a little bit.  
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This lesson is pretty straight-forward  and it has two sections:
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First I’ll answer the question (in  more detail than what I just did)  
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“Is it possible to speak like a native?” And then I will tell you why it is okay  
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if you DON’T sound like a native or if  you don’t WANT to sound like a native.
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So, this lesson is for you if you…
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But before we start, we help you understand  fast speech, be understood by anyone and  
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connect to this beautiful world that  we live in. We help people like Nan,  
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Is it possible to speak like a native? For me there are 3 factors that determine  
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whether or not you can achieve a proficiency  level that’s just like a native English speaker. 
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But, what is a native English speaker? You might be asking yourselves. Well, I'm a  
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native english speaker, Ethan is a native English  speaker, Andrea is a native English speaker.
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We all come from different countries  so there’s always the idea that: okay,  
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you want to sound like a native speaker,  but a native speaker from where? Anyway,
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these 3 factors are: Exposure, dedication, age.
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Age? What do you mean? People say that you can  learn anything no matter what age you are?! 
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That’s true, but let’s consider  that in relation to the other  
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2 factors at play. We’re going to use this  diagram here to help illustrate these ideas.
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Let’s invent a character. Let’s call him Lucas.  Let’s say Lucas is here at age 0, in other words  
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he’s a new-born. And on exposure, let’s put him  at the right-hand end of the spectrum here: he  
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lives in an English-speaking country. Here, the  other factor, dedication, is out of the picture.  
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We could set him at “none” here and he would  still learn English. He’s going to be a native  
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English speaker because he was born in an  English-speaking country. That’s me. I was  
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born in Australia. I never made an effort to  learn English I just learned it naturally.
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Now that we’ve established that case, let’s  focus on the other hypothetical cases in  
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which Lucas is actually a learner  of English as a second language.
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Let’s now increase Lucas’ age. He's  9. And he’s just gone from here,  
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no exposure, all the way to here,  living in an English-speaking country.  
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What this basically means is that Lucas  has moved to an English speaking country.  
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He’s still quite young, so even if he doesn’t  make a big effort to learn the language,  
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he will probably still be able to learn it  to the level of a native and be bilingual.
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That means that he will still have,  practically speaking, native English level.  
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And through life, even if he never  moves back to where he was born,  
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he will still be a native speaker of his mother  tongue. By definition this is a bilingual speaker.  
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Of course, this is still a generalization,  because who knows how many factors could  
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be at play in someone’s life, but for  discussion’s sake, we’ll leave it at that.
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By the way, the reason why I put 9  here at the middle of the spectrum  
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is because this is the age (give  or take, it might be ... 11,  
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maybe even 12)... Where it becomes more and  more difficult to acquire a native-like accent.  
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It is not impossible though. We have  interviewed Hadar and Anna on our Talk  
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Show Beyond Borders with Ethan, where they told  us how they achieved their incredible accents!
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Anyway, Let's say now… another character, Zoey.  She started learning English somewhere between  
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15 and 22. It doesn’t matter. She doesn’t move nor  has the opportunity to visit an English-speaking  
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country. But she tries her best to make up  for that by watching a lot of TV in English,  
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reading books, etc. Her dedication is extremely  high. What level can she achieve? She could land  
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anywhere along the right-hand end of this line.  C2 is a very advanced English level. You might  
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not be a native English speaker, but English  won’t be an impediment for almost anything.
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Like Zoey, you can also get exposed to the  English language with our exclusive RealLife  
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Native Immersion Course. Over 41 weeks, we will  take you on a journey of the English language.  
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You will learn about culture, why and how natives  speak so fast, and lots more. And I want you to  
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try it for free today with our three-part power  learning series. To sign up and get started,  
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you can click up here and I will also leave  the link down in the description below.
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What are you waiting for?
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Now, imagine if someone is like Zoey, but instead  of starting to learn English in their early 20s,  
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they start when they are 40. And, in my opinion,  
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this person wouldn't be at a  disadvantage because they're older.  
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You know, I'm talking about this idea that the  older you get the less ability you have to learn  
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something. Right? I hate this all the time  and, quite frankly, I don't believe in that.
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However, someone at this age, as a full-grown  adult, is going to have a very different life than  
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most people in their early 20s. They might have a  job that obviously demands a lot out of them, they  
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might have kids to raise, and all sorts of other  responsibilities. So age can have an impact on  
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your ability to dedicate yourself to your learning  and to how much exposure you can actually get.
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Now, assuming that you're older than 9, which  would be totally safe to assume, right?! Let's  
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change the question can you speak like a native  to just "how proficient or fluent can you get  
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in English?" The answer is it will depend on  how much exposure and dedication you can have.
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Let's move on to the second part of this lesson.
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Why you don’t Need to Sound like a Native! So, there’s a reason why I said “sound like  
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a native” and not “speak like a native”. The  idea behind “sounding like a native” implies  
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modifying your accent so it’s closer to that of a  native from a specific place, while “speaking like  
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a native” implies the broader idea of fluency,  and it might not so much be so focused on accent.
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We’ll talk more about accent in a second, but  for me what’s most important is the question of  
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whether someone's proficiency in a second language  allows them to have the same type of opportunities  
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that they would in their native language.  That is, despite it being a second language,  
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you've learned it so well that you can excel  in an environment where that English is spoken  
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or be in a relatively level playing field among  those who speak it as a first/native language.
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Now, when it comes to accent it might  come as no surprise that there are many  
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English learners who do want to be  exposed to a "native speaker" accent  
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and will make an effort to sound as closely  as possible to a native English speaker.
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Some people say that that is a good goal because  if you set a very ambitious goal for yourself  
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and you make a big effort to  attain it, even if you don’t,  
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you’re going to have a very high level.  The famous quote by Oscar Wilde goes  
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“Shoot for the moon. Even if you  miss, you’ll land among the stars”
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We recently had the pleasure of speaking to  Hadar Shemesh from Accent's Way English with  
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Hadar in our brand-new Talk Show Beyond Borders  with Ethan. She was kind enough to share with us  
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her process of achieving an  INCREDIBLE American accent  
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and she also talked about how she  had to deal with perfectionism.
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I do have the privilege of sounding  
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like a native speaker, for the most part. And as a result, you know, 
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I do have access to things that people with an accent don't have.  
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I do have access to people who don't sound like an American, who don't have a 
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standard accent don't have. So I  recognize that. And I think that 
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the result like what we see now  is the result of you know, the 
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first few years of me dealing with English being perfectionate 
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and being a perfectionist. And  recognising that it has changed 
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my, the way I speak, but it also  created a lot of insecurities 
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because at some point I, you  know, my English level, I 
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sounded like a native, but  my English was not an native 
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English. So I constantly felt insecure 
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again, like an impostor people  are gonna hear those mistakes, 
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and they're gonna be like, what?  Uh, we thought that you're a 
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native. So I think that that  created a lot of insecurities 
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for me. And I have gone through this emotional and mindset 
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transformation around my English  and around how I present my 
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English, so I'm now left with a  result of the first few years of 
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my journey. But I know the  impact that it had and I how I 
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could easily fall into that rabbit hole of, you know, 
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constantly feeling like I need  to keep on improving my English. 
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But I still think that the  internal process is what counts.
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You can watch the full interview by clicking  up here or down in the description below.
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Other people, however, will say that  “instead of trying to sound like a native,  
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why don’t you try to sound like yourself?"
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This might connect with a deeper, more  psychological question. We recently had  
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Rachel from Rachel’s English as a guest in  our podcast, and this is what she had to say:
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You know, I don't, I don't ever want to criticize someone's goal,  
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but let's, let's do talk about that as a goal. In my experience,  
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students who have that as a goal tend to be less happy with where they are. 
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And I think that that perspective,  well, definitely slows down progress.
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Again, if you want to listen to this  podcast episode, I'll link it down in  
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the description so you can also find it  on the RealLife app. You can download  
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the app from the Apple App or Google Play  Stores. Just search for RealLife English.
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Going back to what I said earlier. There are many  learners who do want to strive to sound like or  
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almost like a native. However, very frequently  lots of other want to retain their own accent  
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when they speak a foreign language because  they feel that it is part of their identity.  
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I personally feel the same when I  speak Portuguese. I find it quite  
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a compliment when a taxi driver asks where  I am from. Because I am a proud Australian.
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English as a second language speakers who  have strong accents have at some point  
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made the conscious or unconscious decision that  they would not try to pursue a foreign accent,  
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whether it be American, British or otherwise.  In other cases, some speakers are very vague  
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about it. So, while someone might have a  specific model of English as their goal,  
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others just don’t think too much about it.
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We believe that most learners still  desire to improve their accent,  
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but in a context where some might have  their reasons for keeping their own accent,  
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intelligibility has gotne to be considered  the prime goal of pronunciation.
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Now, back to our conversation with Hadar,  
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she had a message that we would like  to emphasize at RealLife English.
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And I think that the more people  with accents, I mean, everyone has an 
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accent, but let's say with  an international or, or a non 
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American s..standard accent,  uh, dare to show up, the more we 
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normalize different sounds and different voices. And then when 
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there is more representation, then people dare more, because 
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right now a child that grows up  and watches Hollywood movies and 
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Netflix, then the majority is  like the sound of them, the... 
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most of the people who speak is very,  
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very distinct, and it doesn't sound like them.  
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And I think that then they would be afraid to speak up in public or 
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make videos because it doesn't sound right like English is supposed  
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to sound. And I think that the more we normalize foreign accents,  
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umm non-native accents, I think we would have more representation,  
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more people would dare, more people would show up.
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That leads to some lessons we have done on  Learn English with TV with Sofia Vergara  
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and Deepika Padukone. You can think of other  actors as well, like Arnold Schwarzenegger and  
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Penelope Cruz. They all have stupendous  English but they speak with an accent.  
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If you ask me about it, this is what  makes them unique, interesting and exotic!
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So in the end, it is up to you whether or not  you want to pursue a native accent in English.  
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What I advise my students to do, is to put their  focus on clear pronunciation, so even though they  
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might have an accent, which makes them interesting  and exotic, is that they are easy to understand.
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I hope today's lesson was insightful for you.  
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Don't forget we have new lessons  every Monday and Friday. Ah yeah!
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