Advanced English Lesson: How to Make Friends in 52 Minutes!

232,558 views ใƒป 2018-06-12

Rachel's English


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Today we're going to talk about making friends in America.
0
520
3680
์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:04
This is something a lot of you guys have asked me about.
1
4200
2940
๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์…จ๋˜ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:10
David, I got an email today
2
10920
1430
David, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜
00:12
from a Rachel's English Academy student named Clarence
3
12350
3760
Rachel's English Academy ํ•™์ƒ์ธ Clarence๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:16
who was saying he goes to school in the US
4
16110
3530
๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ์ง€
00:19
but all of his friends that he's making
5
19640
1720
๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š”
00:21
are other international students.
6
21360
2110
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:23
And he says they're great people, they're wonderful friends,
7
23470
2790
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ
00:26
but he wants more opportunity to practice his English
8
26260
3360
์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šต
00:29
and to engage with Americans while he's here.
9
29620
2480
ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:32
And he was asking for some advice
10
32100
1880
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š”
00:33
about making friends in America.
11
33980
2290
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ๊ตฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:36
And it reminded me of the podcast that we made,
12
36270
2692
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“  ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:38
which I'll play at the end of this video,
13
38962
2188
์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค์˜ ๋ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—์„œ ์žฌ์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
00:41
so you won't have to click anywhere to find it,
14
41150
2300
์•„๋ฌด ๊ณณ์ด๋‚˜ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ ์ฐพ์„ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ
00:43
but I also thought it's worth revisiting.
15
43450
2860
๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:46
It's a big topic.
16
46310
1568
ํฐ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:47
It's a really big topic, yeah.
17
47878
1812
์ •๋ง ํฐ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:49
So I thought we could start a little bit
18
49690
2090
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:51
by talking about our best friends, how we've made them,
19
51780
3914
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ๊ท€์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€,
00:55
and then also now at this stage in life
20
55700
4880
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์ด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ
01:00
how it's harder to make friends,
21
60580
1820
์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ ค์šด์ง€,
01:02
I think we're both finding,
22
62410
1350
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
01:03
and we can sort of talk about ways
23
63760
2660
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
01:06
to connect with Americans.
24
66420
2730
.
01:09
So out of your very best friends,
25
69150
2810
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘์—์„œ
01:11
you have different sets of people, wouldn't you say?
26
71960
2890
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:14
Yeah, I think that that's right.
27
74850
2200
๋„ค, ๋งž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
01:17
And where did you make your best friends?
28
77050
3445
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:20
They come from a couple different areas
29
80495
2595
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์—ญ
01:23
and stages of life, I guess.
30
83090
2520
๊ณผ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:25
From high school and college, there's a couple of people
31
85610
2480
๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต์™€ ๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
01:28
that are even to this day very close friends, actually,
32
88090
3430
์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๋ช… ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค
01:31
my closest friends, I would say.
33
91520
2220
์ œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:33
And then I also have some very good friends
34
93740
3000
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
01:36
who I've met through work, so, later in life.
35
96750
3795
. ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ์š”.
01:40
And then, just meeting people who are friends of friends,
36
100545
5915
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„
01:46
so some kind of connection through a shared friend.
37
106460
5920
๊ณต์œ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:52
And again, that one was later in life.
38
112380
2740
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:55
that's a good point.
39
115120
860
01:55
You brought up two potential ways to make friends.
40
115980
3820
๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ด์•ผ.
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ทˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ œ์‹œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:59
First of all, you mentioned school, which I think
41
119800
3860
๋จผ์ € ํ•™๊ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ ,
02:03
a lot of us have made a lot of friends in school.
42
123670
2610
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:06
The reason is you're seeing the same people over and over
43
126280
2790
๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์ผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ
02:09
every day, that helps build friendships,
44
129070
2840
๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ์ •์„ ์Œ“๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ
02:11
but you also mentioned work,
45
131910
1610
์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๊ณ 
02:13
and I think a lot of people watching this video
46
133520
2940
์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
02:16
might be people who live in the United States,
47
136460
2710
์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
work in the United States, but have a hard time
48
139170
3650
๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
02:22
taking the co-worker level to a friendship level.
49
142820
5280
๋™๋ฃŒ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์šฐ์ • ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:28
What would you say about that?
50
148100
1480
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
02:29
Would you have any advice about how to approach somebody
51
149580
3145
02:32
in a more formal situation to turn it into something
52
152725
6135
์ข€ ๋” ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜์—ฌ
02:38
that has a casual side as well?
53
158860
2760
์บ์ฃผ์–ผํ•œ ์ธก๋ฉด๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
02:41
Yeah, I think it is challenging.
54
161620
1220
๋„ค, ๋„์ „์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:42
I think it's challenging for Americans too.
55
162860
3160
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ์˜จ
02:46
One of the things that I've been thinking about,
56
166020
1900
๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”,
02:47
as we've been preparing, is that it's tempting sometimes
57
167930
4120
02:52
to say no to an invitation
58
172050
1970
02:54
if you're not feeling the whole way comfortable.
59
174020
2580
์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€์— ๊ฑฐ์ ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์œ ํ˜น์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:56
Invitations tend to come out of the blue.
60
176600
1994
์ดˆ๋Œ€์žฅ์€ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:58
And a non-native speaker might especially
61
178594
1859
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ํŠนํžˆ
03:00
if they're not feeling really confident in their English
62
180453
2827
์˜์–ด์— ์ž์‹ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋ผ๋ฉด
03:03
might especially have a hesitation there.
63
183280
3100
ํŠนํžˆ ๋ง์„ค์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:06
Right, so I think an important thing
64
186380
1920
๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
03:08
is to say to yourself right now
65
188300
3211
03:11
the next time that I'm approached by somebody at work
66
191511
2789
๋‹ค์Œ์— ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
03:14
who says, "Hey, do you want to go to a movie?
67
194300
2527
"์ด๋ด, ์˜ํ™” ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐˆ๋ž˜?
03:16
"Hey, do you want to get a drink after work?
68
196827
1650
"์ด๋ด, ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ฐˆ๋ž˜? ํ‡ด๊ทผ ํ›„ ํ•œ์ž”?
03:18
"Hey, some of us are gonna go to happy hour on Friday
69
198477
3080
"์ด๋ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์— ํ•ดํ”ผ ์•„์›Œ์— ๊ฐˆ๊ฑฐ์•ผ
03:21
"after work, do you wanna come along?"
70
201557
2353
"ํ‡ด๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ฐˆ๋ž˜?" ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ž˜ ์•„๋Š”
03:23
It might not be somebody that you know very well
71
203910
2880
์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:26
or again, you might have that instantaneous sort of,
72
206790
3147
03:29
"Oh my god, they're all gonna be speaking really quickly,
73
209937
3110
, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ •๋ง ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
"I'm not gonna feel comfortable."
74
213047
2083
"๋‚˜๋Š” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
03:35
But I think it's really important in those spots
75
215130
3010
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ž๋ฆฌ์—์„œ
03:38
to push yourself to say,
76
218140
1497
์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ€์–ด๋ถ™์—ฌ
03:39
"Yep, sure, that sounds great, I'd love to."
77
219637
2929
"์˜ˆ, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ์ข‹์€ ๋ง์”€์ด๊ตฐ์š”. ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:42
Knowing that at worst, it's gonna be an opportunity
78
222566
3784
์ตœ์•…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
03:46
to really practice your English with native speakers,
79
226350
3550
03:49
and at best, it's gonna be a chance
80
229900
2460
๊ธฐ๊ปํ•ด์•ผ ์ผ์„ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ
03:52
to really connect with people in a way that's beyond work.
81
232360
2850
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
03:55
And if a co-worker has invited you to do something,
82
235210
3707
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
03:58
then I think that's a sign
83
238917
2253
04:01
that that's somebody you can feel comfortable with,
84
241170
2550
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋А๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‹ ํ˜ธ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:03
if you don't understand, saying,
85
243720
2507
๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
04:06
"I'm sorry, you're speaking a little too fast.
86
246227
2270
"๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๋ง์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋นจ๋ฆฌ.
04:08
"What did you say?"
87
248497
1423
"๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด?"
04:09
Or something like that.
88
249920
1110
๋˜๋Š” ์ด์™€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ.
04:11
They've invited you into a more intimate relationship,
89
251030
4640
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ข€ ๋” ์นœ๋ฐ€ํ•œ ๊ด€๊ณ„,
04:15
a less formal relationship, so I think you can feel free
90
255670
4300
๋œ ํ˜•์‹์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ
04:19
to take advantage of that and ask for clarification.
91
259970
4160
์ด์šฉ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์„ค๋ช…์„ ์š”์ฒญํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:24
Maybe they use an idiom or a phrasal verb you don't know,
92
264130
3210
์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค์Œ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ด€์šฉ์–ด๋‚˜ ๊ตฌ๋™์‚ฌ,
04:27
great opportunity for you to ask.
93
267340
2170
๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:29
Now, let's flip this around
94
269510
2420
์ž, ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋’ค์ง‘์–ด์„œ
04:31
and say no one's asking you at work to do something.
95
271930
5470
์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์š”๊ตฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค .
04:37
What about starting it yourself?
96
277400
2420
์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
04:39
I think a great thing that you can look for
97
279830
3830
์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
as you're wanting to connect with more people,
98
283660
1865
04:45
whether it's at work or maybe you go to church
99
285525
5475
์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋“ , ๊ตํšŒ์— ๊ฐ€๋“ , ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š”
04:51
or you have some sort of religious group
100
291000
1520
์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ข…๊ต ์ง‘๋‹จ์ด ์žˆ๋“  ๊ด€๊ณ„์—†์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๋•Œ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:52
that you participate with, if you're looking,
101
292520
2500
04:55
any group of people that you're seeing regularly,
102
295020
2420
์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ ,
04:57
if you're looking to take it a step further,
103
297440
2790
ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
05:00
I think always look for
104
300230
2650
ํ•ญ์ƒ
05:02
some common interest that you might have.
105
302880
3060
๊ณตํ†ต ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ์ด์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:05
So for example, if at the office you come to realize
106
305940
4978
์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ
05:10
that your co-worker is really into the Marvel action movies
107
310920
5340
๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ๋ธ” ์•ก์…˜ ์˜ํ™” ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ์ •๋ง ๋น ์ ธ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ 
05:16
or whatever and you are too, discuss it, talk about it,
108
316260
3620
๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ† ๋ก ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ
05:19
and then maybe at some point say,
109
319890
2077
๋‹ค์Œ ์–ด๋А ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:21
"Hey, let's go see the new one", or whatever.
110
321967
3023
์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค." ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ .
05:24
Find something that you already have in common
111
324990
3680
์ด๋ฏธ ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ์€
05:28
and then use that as a way
112
328670
2220
๋‹ค์Œ
05:30
to invite somebody to do something.
113
330890
1840
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
05:32
And also, don't be afraid to ask somebody.
114
332730
2430
๋˜ํ•œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
05:35
It's not unusual in a work environment
115
335160
2770
05:37
to see if a co-worker wants to do something outside of work.
116
337930
3560
์ง์žฅ ๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์ง์žฅ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง์žฅ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ๋“œ๋ฌธ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
So, definitely, in America,
117
341490
2150
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด
05:43
that's a pretty common thing to happen.
118
343640
2680
๊ฝค ํ”ํ•œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:46
So definitely feel free,
119
346320
1590
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ž์œ ๋กœ์›Œ์ง€์„ธ์š”.
05:47
or even if you're just having a good conversation
120
347910
3190
์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ์ € ์ข‹์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„
05:51
to just say, "Oh, do you want to meet up after work
121
351100
2747
"์•„, ํ‡ด๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ 
05:53
"for a little bit?
122
353847
833
์ž ๊น ๋งŒ๋‚ ๋ž˜?"
05:54
"Do you have time?"
123
354680
1280
"์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”?"
05:55
Or something like that.
124
355960
1150
๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ.
05:57
I think also realizing that somebody has a common interest
125
357110
3650
๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋Œ€ํ™” ์ค‘์—๋„ ๊ณตํ†ต ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š”
06:00
even at just during that conversation,
126
360760
3270
06:04
that means that the person is gonna be really interested
127
364030
2650
๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:06
in what you have to say.
128
366680
1390
.
06:08
That I think means it's a good time to say to yourself,
129
368070
3570
๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ "์ข‹์•„,
06:11
okay, this person is probably gonna be fine with me saying,
130
371640
4197
์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ "
06:15
"Hey, I didn't quite catch that, can you say that again?"
131
375837
3373
์ด๋ด, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด . ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ˆ? "๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:19
Or even after you've said something
132
379210
2150
๋˜๋Š”
06:21
that you're not sure is quite right,
133
381360
2050
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์˜ณ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ง์„ ํ•œ ๋’ค์—๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
06:23
that kind of a person is a good person to say,
134
383410
2637
์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:26
"Hey, did I say that right?
135
386047
1210
06:27
"I wasn't sure if I said that right."
136
387257
2213
."
06:29
I think making people your conversation partner,
137
389470
5050
๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋Œ€ํ™” ์ƒ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ผ๋Š” ๋ฐ
06:34
it often just takes a little bit of courage in saying,
138
394520
3597
์ข…์ข… ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์šฉ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:38
"Hey, did I say that right?
139
398117
1690
06:39
"Hey, would you mind just saying that again?
140
399807
2390
"์ด๋ด, ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด์ค„๋ž˜?
06:42
"I wasn't quite sure I caught it."
141
402197
2123
"์žก์•˜๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์‹ ์ด ์„œ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด
06:44
Almost always people are really willing to jump in and say,
142
404320
3587
06:47
"Oh, actually, yeah, you almost had it right,
143
407907
2860
.
06:50
"but there was this one little part,
144
410767
1420
"
06:52
"let me tell you about it."
145
412187
1423
"๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•ด์ค„๊ฒŒ."๋ผ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:53
People love to help.
146
413610
1630
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋•๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:55
- And they might not correct you if not prompted.
147
415240
2386
- ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๊ฐ€ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฐ”๋กœ์žก์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:57
- I would say that even stronger,
148
417626
2014
- ๋” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด,
06:59
they're likely to not correct you.
149
419640
2270
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฐ”๋กœ์žก์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:01
I think Americans are,
150
421910
2460
07:04
I think some cultures would be much more free
151
424370
2070
์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ฌธํ™”๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ
07:06
to jump in and say, "Oh, you said that a little bit off."
152
426440
3880
๋›ฐ์–ด๋“ค์–ด "์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ข€ ์ด์ƒํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ž–์•„."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
07:10
Thinking back to being in Italy,
153
430320
1200
07:11
I feel like Italian culture, it's more kind of out there,
154
431520
3520
๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
07:15
and people might say, "Oh you said that a little bit wrong."
155
435040
3020
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ "์˜ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ž˜๋ชป ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:18
I think Americans are very reticent to initiate that,
156
438060
4360
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณผ๋ฌตํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
07:22
but very ready to give you that feedback if you ask for it.
157
442420
4053
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋ฉด ํ”ผ๋“œ๋ฐฑ์„ ์ค„ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:26
That would be my take on it.
158
446473
2777
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:29
- And this is reminding me, as we're talking about work,
159
449250
4450
- ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ
07:33
I'm thinking, okay, one of my other students
160
453700
2660
07:36
in Rachel's English Academy, Sam, works in Silicon Valley,
161
456360
3563
๋ ˆ์ด์ฒผ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์•„์นด๋ฐ๋ฏธ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™์ƒ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ธ ์ƒ˜์ด ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ๋ฐธ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋– ์˜ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:39
and he was saying so many of his co-workers,
162
459923
3017
๊ทธ์˜ ๋™๋ฃŒ ์ค‘
07:42
the vast majority were non-native speakers.
163
462940
2190
๋Œ€๋‹ค์ˆ˜๋Š” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:45
And so, even though he was interacting with people
164
465130
3160
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์ข…์ผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ณ 
07:48
all throughout the day, and he lives in America,
165
468290
2480
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ 
07:50
he still felt like he was not immersed in American English,
166
470770
4260
๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋” ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์„œ ์ •๋ง ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์˜์–ด์— ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜๋‹ค
07:55
which he really wanted to be
167
475030
1320
07:56
because he wanted to get better at it.
168
476350
1780
.
07:58
So this is the same issue that Clarence was having.
169
478130
3153
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ Clarence๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:01
All of his friends were international students.
170
481283
4417
๊ทธ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์œ ํ•™์ƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:05
Where are other places?
171
485700
2280
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์€ ์–ด๋””์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:07
How can you start relationships with people,
172
487990
4140
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ 
08:12
start friendships with people?
173
492130
1290
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์šฐ์ •์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:13
I had a couple of ideas.
174
493420
1780
๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
08:15
One of them is, when I was studying in Europe,
175
495200
5500
๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—์„œ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•  ๋•Œ
08:20
the place where I was studying, the Goethe-Institut,
176
500700
3450
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ Goethe-Institut์—์„œ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”
08:24
had a program where it matched people
177
504150
2980
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
08:27
who wanted to learn languages,
178
507130
1510
08:28
so I was matched with somebody who lived there in Germany
179
508640
3530
๋…์ผ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ค‘
08:32
that wanted to learn English.
180
512170
1550
์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ด ์ค€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด.
08:33
That became a great way for me to practice German
181
513720
4980
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋…์ผ์–ด๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šต
08:38
and also to have a friend.
182
518700
1565
ํ•˜๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ทˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
And so I would say look for programs where
183
520265
4105
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:44
maybe there's a language school, let's say you speak Arabic,
184
524370
3760
. ์•„๋ž์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๊ณ 
08:48
find a language school, if they're giving Arabic classes
185
528130
4360
์–ธ์–ด ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋ž์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…
08:52
and especially intermediate or advanced classes,
186
532490
2720
, ํŠนํžˆ ์ค‘๊ธ‰ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
08:55
contact them and say, "I'm a native Arabic speaker.
187
535210
3817
๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜์—ฌ "์ €๋Š” ์•„๋ž์–ด ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:59
"Do you have any program
188
539027
1330
"
09:00
"where you connect your native speakers with Americans?
189
540357
3640
์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
09:03
"'Cause I'd love a language exchange."
190
543997
2093
"์–ธ์–ด ๊ตํ™˜์„ ์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:06
It's a possibility.
191
546090
1500
๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:07
And then it's really a win-win 'cause you're both invested,
192
547590
2790
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์œˆ์œˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:10
you're both wanting the same thing.
193
550380
1880
๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:12
And when you're meeting someone regularly,
194
552260
2110
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋ฉด
09:14
it's very possible that a real friendship
195
554370
2360
์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์šฐ์ •์ด ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. -
09:16
can develop, I think.
196
556730
1570
09:18
- Absolutely.
197
558300
833
๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:19
- Another thing that I've talked about before is,
198
559133
3232
- ์ „์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ,
09:22
how can you create a space
199
562365
2615
09:24
where you're seeing the same people regularly?
200
564980
2630
๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ์„ธ์š”?
09:27
If it's not work, if it's not school,
201
567610
3450
์ผ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ํ•™๊ต๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ 
09:31
and there are various clubs,
202
571060
2960
๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋™์•„๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
09:34
there's a running club in Philadelphia.
203
574020
2688
ํ•„๋ผ๋ธํ”ผ์•„์— ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ ๋™์•„๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”
09:36
In our neighborhood, there's like a mom's meetup group.
204
576708
4302
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋™๋„ค์—๋Š” ์—„๋งˆ ๋ชจ์ž„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”
09:41
Look for that kind of thing.
205
581010
2330
์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ.
09:43
What's your interest?
206
583340
1260
๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
09:44
Search for it online,
207
584600
1170
์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•˜์—ฌ
09:45
see if there's a local group where people are meeting up.
208
585770
2450
์œ„์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. l ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ์ด๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฃน.
09:48
There's the the dad's meetup once a month,
209
588220
3040
ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ ๋ชจ์ž„์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
09:51
that you've been to before.
210
591260
1600
์ „์—๋„ ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:52
That's a great way to maybe connect with people
211
592860
5100
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ
09:57
more than once.
212
597960
813
ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ด์ƒ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:58
And I really think when it comes to friendship,
213
598773
2530
10:01
in the podcast, I was talking about my friend Cara
214
601303
2987
ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ Cara๊ฐ€
10:04
who will chat up anybody on the subway,
215
604290
3280
์ง€ํ•˜์ฒ ์—์„œ,
10:07
in the line at the grocery store, it doesn't matter,
216
607570
2554
์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ ์ ์—์„œ ์ค„์„ ์„œ์„œ ์ค„์„ ์„œ์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์™€๋„ ์ˆ˜๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋–จ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘ ์šฐ์ •์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:10
and she sometimes exchanges numbers
217
610124
3566
10:13
and makes friends with people.
218
613690
1550
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:15
Most people aren't like that.
219
615240
1630
๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:16
Most people need a time or two of meeting somebody
220
616870
6250
๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
10:23
in sort of a more structured environment
221
623120
2510
10:25
to let friendship develop. - I think that's right.
222
625630
3520
์šฐ์ •์„ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ๊ตฌ์กฐํ™”๋œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•œ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ๋งŒ๋‚  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ๋งž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
10:29
Another thing I was thinking about is,
223
629150
2190
์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€
10:31
I've played co-ed soccer in an intramural league,
224
631340
3270
๊ต๋‚ด ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ์—์„œ ๋‚จ๋…€ ํ˜ผ์„ฑ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:34
and in that league you can sign up as an individual person,
225
634610
3220
๊ทธ ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ฑ๋กํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ 
10:37
you don't have to be part of a team already,
226
637830
2420
์ด๋ฏธ ํŒ€์˜ ์ผ์›์ด ๋  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์œผ๋ฉฐ
10:40
and I think this is a pretty big trend in a lot of cities
227
640250
3040
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๊ฝค ํฐ ํŠธ๋ Œ๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‚ฅ๋ณผ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋น„๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๊นŒ์ง€
10:43
in the US where all kinds of sports
228
643290
2940
๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๊ฐ€
10:46
from kickball and really informal sorts of sports,
229
646230
4550
10:50
all the way up to obviously competitive intramural sports
230
650780
3962
๋ช…๋ฐฑํžˆ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ ์ธ ๊ต๋‚ด ์Šคํฌ์ธ ์— ์ด๋ฅด๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๊ฐ€
10:54
are happening, I think it's a trend not just in Philadelphia
231
654742
3248
์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ํ•„๋ผ๋ธํ”ผ์•„๋ฟ๋งŒ
10:57
but people are using the internet to easily sign up
232
657990
3400
์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
11:01
for those kinds of leagues. - Great point.
233
661390
2780
์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ์— ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์ข‹์€ ์ .
11:04
- And you sign up for something like that,
234
664170
2440
- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋“ฑ๋กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:06
especially if you sign up as an individual,
235
666610
2030
ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฐœ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜๋ฉด
11:08
you're just gonna get plunked on a team,
236
668640
2230
ํŒ€์— ํ‘น ๋น ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก 
11:10
and of course that's incredibly terrifying
237
670870
2620
11:13
to show up for the first game,
238
673490
1570
์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋‘๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
11:15
but it forces you to meet native speakers,
239
675060
2190
์›์–ด๋ฏผ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
11:17
it forces you to use some conversation.
240
677250
2010
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋„๋ก ๊ฐ•์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:19
And also, I think that, again, there's sort of a happy hour,
241
679260
4452
๋˜ํ•œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ์™€ ์กฐ์ง์—์„œ
11:23
let's grab a drink after the game culture,
242
683712
3378
๊ฒŒ์ž„ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚œ ํ›„ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ฉด์„œ "
11:27
in a lot of those leagues and organizations,
243
687090
3534
11:30
and so be ready to say, "Yeah, yeah, I'm in, let's go."
244
690624
3436
์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” , ๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค."
11:34
And then, even if it's 10 people,
245
694060
3100
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ 10๋ช…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ
11:37
you don't have to make friends with all of them,
246
697160
1720
๋‹ค ์นœํ•ด์งˆ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ์นœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋‚ด๋Š”
11:38
but maybe there's one person
247
698880
1300
์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•œ ๋ช… ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
11:40
who you kind of have a connection with and you can say,
248
700180
4017
,
11:44
"Hey, I'll see you next week, it was great to meet you."
249
704200
3900
"์•ผ, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ๋ณด์ž. , ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
11:48
Any kind of club or anything that's interesting to you.
250
708100
3200
๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํด๋Ÿฝ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ.
11:51
- And if sports isn't your thing,
251
711300
1610
- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋ฉด,
11:52
I think there is a lot of gaming,
252
712910
2750
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒŒ์ž„,
11:55
a lot of stuff set up around gaming,
253
715660
1806
๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ์„ค์ •๋œ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด
11:57
both traditional games like board games, card games,
254
717466
3154
๋ณด๋“œ ๊ฒŒ์ž„, ์นด๋“œ ๊ฒŒ์ž„๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ๊ฒŒ์ž„,
12:00
and then of course video games, which we know nothing about,
255
720620
3197
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
12:03
but we know that they're very huge at this point in time.
256
723817
3713
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:07
And that people are going
257
727530
1200
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์„œ
12:08
and watching other people play and stuff.
258
728730
2230
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋…ธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:10
So, whatever, however you like to spend your time,
259
730960
4490
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋“ 
12:15
try to find a group of people doing the same thing.
260
735450
4130
๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
12:19
So let's get into some things
261
739580
1590
๊ทธ๋Ÿผ
12:21
that are a little bit more American specific.
262
741170
4430
์ข€ ๋” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ํŠนํ™”๋œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:25
How do you feel,
263
745600
2960
๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ,
12:28
do you feel that Americans are approachable?
264
748560
2280
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋ผ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
12:30
And if someone approached you,
265
750840
3208
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
12:34
how would you want them to approach you?
266
754048
2852
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
12:36
I guess is my question.
267
756900
3200
์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:40
Some people, there can be a big cultural unknown,
268
760100
5140
์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํฐ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ๋ฏธ์ง€์˜ ์˜์—ญ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜
12:45
and someone might say,
269
765240
877
์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š”
12:46
"Well, I would never do that in my own country,
270
766117
2580
"๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:48
"that would be interpreted as this.
271
768697
2460
"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:51
"I'm afraid to do that here."
272
771160
3040
"์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‘๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
12:54
If someone at work, say, wanted to be your friend,
273
774200
4860
, ์ง์žฅ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
12:59
and how would they approach you
274
779060
2690
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
13:01
in a way that would make you feel open to that,
275
781750
2250
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์—ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ 
13:04
do you think?
276
784000
1220
์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
13:05
- Yeah, that's actually a really
277
785220
1520
- ๋„ค, ์‚ฌ์‹ค
13:06
difficult question to answer, I think.
278
786740
2540
๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
13:09
For me, the default should be to be pretty direct.
279
789280
5200
๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ๊ฐ’์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ง์ ‘์ ์ด์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
"You can be as direct as I am
280
794480
4857
"
13:19
"new to the culture of making friends in America.
281
799337
3350
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์ธ" ๋‚˜๋งŒํผ ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:22
"And it was great talking with you about the movie
282
802687
3620
"๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ํ™”
13:26
"over lunch, would you be open to hanging out sometime?"
283
806307
5833
'์ ์‹ฌ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์–ธ์ œ ๋†€๋Ÿฌ๊ฐˆ๋ž˜? ๊ทธ ์ด๋ฉด์—๋Š”
13:32
I do think that Americans,
284
812140
3680
13:35
compared to a lot of other cultures can come off
285
815834
3106
13:38
as a little bit chilly or standoffish.
286
818940
5360
13:44
But I think that right behind that is a desire to connect,
287
824300
3700
์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์š•๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง์ ‘์ ์ด
13:48
and I would say being direct is the way to go.
288
828000
5580
๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ธธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŽธ์•ˆํžˆ
13:53
You could sit back and try to figure out,
289
833580
2177
์•‰์•„์„œ "
13:55
"Well maybe if I did it this way or this way or this way",
290
835757
2823
๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ๋„"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
13:58
put yourself out there and take on this sort of,
291
838580
3670
์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋†“๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ–‰๋™์„ ์ทจํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
14:02
even if you have to fake it,
292
842250
1800
๋น„๋ก ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์†์—ฌ์•ผํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ์šฉ๊ธฐ์™€ ์†”์งํ•จ
14:04
take on the spirit of courage and directness
293
844050
2550
์˜ ์ •์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
14:06
and just say, "Hey, would you be up for going
294
846600
4577
"์ด๋ด,
14:11
"to lunch sometime?
295
851177
1300
์–ธ์ œ ์ ์‹ฌ ๋จน์œผ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐˆ๋ž˜?
14:12
"Or what about coffee some afternoon?"
296
852477
3303
"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜คํ›„์— ์ปคํ”ผ ํ•œ์ž”?"
14:15
You just gotta go for it.
297
855780
1410
๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
14:17
- What do you think about this idea?
298
857190
1500
- ์ด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”?
14:18
I think a lot of people are interested in
299
858690
4130
๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
14:22
things they don't know much about,
300
862820
1760
14:24
and a lot of people love having a hook-up,
301
864580
3280
๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŒ๋‚จ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
14:27
someone that knows a lot about something.
302
867860
2260
๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ.
14:30
What if someone approached you and said,
303
870120
3860
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€์„œ
14:33
like let's say a Japanese co-worker, and said,
304
873980
3007
์ผ๋ณธ์ธ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
14:36
"Hey, there's this great Japanese restaurant,
305
876987
2100
๋„ค์„ธ์‹๋‹น
14:39
"do you want to come with me sometime?
306
879087
2029
"์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ž‘ ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ฐˆ๋ž˜?
14:41
"And I can show you all the best foods."
307
881116
2894
"๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์Œ์‹์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
14:44
Or something like that, a way to invite them
308
884010
2800
๋˜๋Š” ์ด์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด์—์„œ
14:46
into your own culture in a way within America
309
886810
2970
์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
14:49
or to be able to share something unique about yourself
310
889780
3510
์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณ ์œ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
14:53
could also be a really great way to pique someone's interest
311
893290
3810
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ์ด
14:57
in you and what you have to offer.
312
897100
2220
์ œ๊ณตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:59
- Yeah, I think that's a great point.
313
899320
1880
- ๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:01
And related, no matter what kind of activity,
314
901200
4670
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ, ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ™œ๋™์ด๋“ ,
15:05
if you know that you're interested in going to something
315
905870
2761
๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
15:08
or planning to go to something, you can say,
316
908631
4356
๊ฐˆ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
15:12
"Hey, on Friday right after work,
317
912987
2590
"์•ผ, ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ ํ‡ด๊ทผ ์งํ›„์—,
15:15
"I'm going to a show that just opened that the museum.
318
915577
3564
๋‚˜๋Š” ์‡ผ์— ๊ฐˆ๊ฑฐ์•ผ."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์„ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:19
"Any chance you'd like to join me for that?"
319
919141
4719
" ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
15:23
Because that gives the person a lot of space to say,
320
923860
2900
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ
15:26
"Oh no, I can't, thanks anyway."
321
926777
3033
"์•„, ์•ˆ๋ผ์š”, ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:29
That's a little bit easier than saying,
322
929810
3250
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
15:33
"Hey, can you and I do something sometime?
323
933060
3280
"์ด๋ด, ๋„ˆ์™€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
15:36
"I have a plan, would you like to come with me on it?"
324
936340
2660
"๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜
15:39
It implies, "I'm going either way."
325
939000
2580
ํ• ๋ž˜?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:41
It makes it more casual.
326
941580
1410
15:42
- And it's also a really good point,
327
942990
1600
- ๋˜ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์ ์€
15:44
if you find something that's happening locally
328
944590
2880
ํ˜„์ง€์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ ์ค‘
15:47
that's really interesting,
329
947470
1870
์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ผ์ด
15:49
then that can be part of what's happening.
330
949340
3410
์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:52
I personally think a lot of Americans like doing things.
331
952750
3590
์ €๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:56
And so the idea of just sitting down to a conversation
332
956340
3490
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
15:59
with somebody with no purpose
333
959830
2370
์•„๋ฌด ๋ชฉ์  ์—†์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์•‰์•„์„œ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
16:02
might seem a little bit strange,
334
962200
1880
์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜
16:04
but if it's the idea of going
335
964080
1650
์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€์„œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด
16:05
and doing something interesting with someone
336
965730
3030
์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
16:08
that that might be more appealing.
337
968760
1860
๋” ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
16:10
Invite them to, like you said, a museum opening,
338
970620
2460
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€ ๊ฐœ๊ด€์‹์— ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
16:13
or a concert, or in Philadelphia,
339
973080
2430
์ฝ˜์„œํŠธ๋‚˜ ํ•„๋ผ๋ธํ”ผ์•„์—์„œ๋Š” ์•ผ์™ธ์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์—
16:15
there's all sorts of interesting events going on
340
975510
2390
์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ํ–‰์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ด๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:17
in the summer outside, this kind of thing.
341
977900
2666
. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:20
So that could also be a great way to
342
980566
3424
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
16:23
make that first ask of somebody,
343
983990
2240
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€ํƒ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:26
taking them from a co-worker to hanging out once could be,
344
986230
6230
16:32
invite them into your own culture in some way,
345
992460
2380
์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
16:34
or invite them to go do something really cool
346
994840
2808
16:37
within the city or the place where you live.
347
997648
4672
๋„์‹œ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:42
So to wrap this up, making friends in America can be hard,
348
1002320
4080
๊ฒฐ๋ก ์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:46
and one thing we didn't get to is that for both you and me,
349
1006400
5100
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š”
16:51
after college, we've had a hard time making friends,
350
1011500
4000
๋Œ€ํ•™ ์กธ์—… ํ›„ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ
16:55
like where do you meet people?
351
1015500
1560
์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ?
16:57
And this is something I've discussed with other friends too
352
1017060
2790
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ด
16:59
when they move somewhere new.
353
1019850
1760
์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ•  ๋•Œ์—๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜๋…ผํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:01
So if you're a non-native speaker living in the US
354
1021610
3430
๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๊ฑฐ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š” ๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ
17:05
and you're feeling this, you're not alone.
355
1025040
2010
์ด๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋А๋ผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ˜ผ์ž๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:07
I also feel that it's hard to make friends.
356
1027050
2990
์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋‚€๋‹ค.
17:10
But a couple of ways to try to do that,
357
1030040
3210
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๊ตฌ์กฐํ™”๋œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ
17:13
find places where you'll be seeing the same people
358
1033250
2710
๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„
17:15
more than once in a structured environment.
359
1035960
2760
๋‘ ๋ฒˆ ์ด์ƒ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:18
And say yes if you get asked to do something,
360
1038720
4090
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ผ๋Š” ์š”์ฒญ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ฉด ์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ,
17:22
try to be outgoing,
361
1042810
3190
์™ธํ–ฅ์ ์ด ๋˜๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ ,
17:26
and maybe even be the person to make the ask.
362
1046000
4980
์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:30
And this is something that we've talked about,
363
1050980
1980
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
17:32
as I said, in the podcast and I thought,
364
1052960
3366
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€,
17:36
I mean, that's been really well received,
365
1056326
1984
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ ์–ป์—ˆ๊ณ 
17:38
I think that's been really helpful for people,
366
1058310
1580
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ
17:39
so you don't have to go anywhere to find that,
367
1059890
2620
๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„๋ฌด๋ฐ๋„ ๊ฐˆ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:42
I don't want to make you click,
368
1062510
1130
ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:43
we're gonna play it right now.
369
1063640
1830
๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์žฌ์ƒํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:45
Keep in mind it's just audio, but we'll play it here,
370
1065470
4234
์˜ค๋””์˜ค์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์„ธ์š”. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์žฌ์ƒํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:49
and if you want a transcript of that podcast,
371
1069704
3766
ํ•ด๋‹น ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ณธ์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด
17:53
all of the transcripts from my podcasts are free
372
1073470
3370
์ œ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋Œ€๋ณธ์€ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:56
and I'll put the link on the screen
373
1076840
1660
ํ™”๋ฉด
17:58
and also in the video description,
374
1078500
1760
๊ณผ ๋™์˜์ƒ ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
18:00
or you can go download a free transcript of the podcast.
375
1080260
4746
๋˜๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๋Œ€๋ณธ์„ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:05
So do you have any other words or ideas of advice for people
376
1085006
6954
๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ
18:11
who were not born in America, living in America,
377
1091960
2550
์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค , ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
18:14
trying to connect with Americans?
378
1094510
1560
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ง์ด๋‚˜ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
18:16
- Yeah well, no I think, as you were talking, it just,
379
1096070
3030
- ๋„ค, ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
18:19
it brought up for me how much Americans
380
1099100
2030
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€
18:21
are looking for connection too.
381
1101130
2150
์—ฐ๊ฒฐ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
18:23
It might feel one-sided, like,
382
1103280
1743
์ผ๋ฐฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋А๊ปด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:25
"Ah, I have to put myself out there,
383
1105023
1904
"์•„, ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚ด์„ธ์›Œ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
18:26
"and it's not my native language",
384
1106927
1610
"๋‚ด ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ"
18:28
but I think as you practice that
385
1108537
2493
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด
18:31
and maybe get shot down a couple times, who cares?
386
1111030
3940
๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์ด๋‚˜ ์ด์— ๋งž์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ์š”.
18:34
I think you'll find that a lot of Americans
387
1114970
2450
๋งŽ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค๋„
18:37
are really seeking that kind of more real connection too.
388
1117420
3760
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋” ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์„ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:41
So just kind of trust that and go for it.
389
1121180
2320
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
18:43
- Yes, I think that's a great point,
390
1123500
1620
- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”
18:45
even though it might not seem like it,
391
1125120
3040
. ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด
18:48
if you're willing to break the ice,
392
1128160
2150
์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•จ์„ ๊นจ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
18:50
I think you might find that there's a lot of willingness
393
1130310
2950
18:53
to connect and to be friends.
394
1133260
3220
์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:56
- Okay, well David, thanks for joining me
395
1136480
1930
- ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋ฐ์ด๋น„๋“œ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์šฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:58
for this conversation about friendships in America.
396
1138410
3390
19:01
That's it guys, thanks so much for using Rachel's English,
397
1141800
3600
. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์˜ˆ์š”. Rachel's English๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:05
and stay tuned to listen to that podcast.
398
1145400
3260
๊ทธ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
19:11
You are listening to the Rachel's English Podcast.
399
1151620
2147
Rachel์˜ ์˜์–ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:13
I'm so glad to have you here.
400
1153767
2223
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋ชจ์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:15
In this podcast, we discuss topics in American conversation,
401
1155990
3880
์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋Œ€ํ™”,
19:19
pronunciation and culture.
402
1159870
2350
๋ฐœ์Œ ๋ฐ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ† ๋ก ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
19:22
And today's episode focuses on culture.
403
1162220
4260
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฌธํ™”์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:26
If you would like a free transcript for this podcast,
404
1166480
3670
์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๋Œ€๋ณธ์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด
19:30
just visit RachelsEnglish.com/podcast
405
1170150
3350
R์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์„ธ์š”. achelsEnglish.com/podcast์—์„œ
19:33
and look for this episode.
406
1173500
1870
์ด ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
19:35
Today, I'm here with my husband David.
407
1175370
1610
์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋‚จํŽธ David์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:36
Hey, David.
408
1176980
833
์•ˆ๋…•, ๋ฐ์ด๋น—.
19:37
- Hey, everybody.
409
1177813
927
- ํ—ค์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
19:38
- And we're going to talk about
410
1178740
1040
- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
19:39
friendships in America.
411
1179780
1676
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ์šฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:41
David, you have lots of friends.
412
1181456
2134
๋ฐ์ด๋น—, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์•„์š”.
19:43
- I do.
413
1183590
833
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”.
19:44
- So I think you're probably gonna have
414
1184423
1027
- ์•„๋งˆ
19:45
a lot to add to this one.
415
1185450
1610
์ด๊ฒƒ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งŽ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:47
- All right.
416
1187060
1440
- ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
19:48
- So I went to,
417
1188500
1390
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
19:49
the thing that made me think about this podcast
418
1189890
2540
์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€
19:52
is two different emails that I got.
419
1192430
3340
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:55
Actually, one was a comment on YouTube.
420
1195770
2300
์‚ฌ์‹ค ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:58
And this person whose username is Management Courses said,
421
1198070
4457
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž ์ด๋ฆ„์ด Management Courses์ธ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:02
"You're so lucky to have friends who are supportive,
422
1202527
2630
""
20:05
"both males and females."
423
1205157
2033
๋‚จ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๋ชจ๋‘" ์ง€์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ํ–‰์šด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:07
David, this was on a video that I made with Dave at
424
1207190
3165
David, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 7์›” 4์ผ์— Dave์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋งŒ๋“  ๋น„๋””์˜ค์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:10
the 4th of July when we were in Clark Park
425
1210355
2825
ํด๋ฝ ๊ณต์›์—์„œ
20:13
talking about 4th of July traditions.
426
1213180
2164
7์›” 4์ผ ์ „ํ†ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”
20:15
- Right, okay. - Do you remember that video?
427
1215344
1266
- ๋„ค, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ๊ทธ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์„ธ์š”?
20:16
- Yeah, I do.
428
1216610
960
- ๋„ค, ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ด์š”
20:17
- I'll link to that video
429
1217570
940
- ์‡ผ ๋…ธํŠธ์— ๊ทธ ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๋งํฌํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”
20:18
in the show notes, everybody,
430
1218510
1570
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„,
20:20
but it was me with a friend, who's a man,
431
1220080
1930
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋ž‘ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ž‘ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ,
20:22
discussing what we like to do on the 4th of July.
432
1222010
3116
7์›” 4์ผ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ† ๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:25
So this person says, "Can you make a video
433
1225126
2521
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ "
20:27
"on how to build more supportive friendships?
434
1227647
3030
๋”์šฑ ํž˜์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์šฐ์ •์„ ์Œ“๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?" "
20:30
"What do you do to be a better friend?
435
1230677
2310
๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
20:32
"In my culture, after marriage,
436
1232987
1998
"์ œ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ โ€‹โ€‹ํ›„
20:34
"the wife's friendships suffer,
437
1234985
2812
"์•„๋‚ด์˜ ์šฐ์ •์ด ๊นจ์ง€๊ณ 
20:37
"and you can't keep close friendships with the opposite sex.
438
1237797
3570
" ์ด์„ฑ๊ณผ ์นœ๋ฐ€ํ•œ ์šฐ์ •์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜
20:41
"I had the misconception that Americans
439
1241367
1883
20:43
don't value friendship,
440
1243250
1057
์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:44
"or their friendships are not long-lasting, or shallow.
441
1244307
3820
, ๋˜๋Š” ์–•์€.
20:48
"Your videos showed me the opposite."
442
1248127
1903
"๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋Š” ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
20:50
So that's great, I'm so glad that my videos showed
443
1250030
2780
์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๊ฐ€
20:52
that Americans do value friendship,
444
1252810
1807
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ์ •์„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ 
20:54
and that friendships are not just shallow or short-lived.
445
1254617
4823
์šฐ์ •์ด ๋‹จ์ง€ ์–•๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์งง์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค˜์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. -
20:59
- Absolutely.
446
1259440
1380
๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:00
- But so, let's try to talk
447
1260820
1687
- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ,
21:02
a little bit about friendships.
448
1262507
1703
์šฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
21:04
Let's focus in on some of the specific questions.
449
1264210
3340
๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
21:07
How to build more supportive friendships?
450
1267550
3171
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋” ํž˜์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์šฐ์ •์„ ์Œ“์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
21:10
Now part of what's so great about having David
451
1270721
3739
David๊ฐ€
21:14
on this podcast is not only does he have a ton of friends,
452
1274460
3035
์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ,
21:17
but he's also a therapist,
453
1277495
1715
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์น˜๋ฃŒ์‚ฌ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ด์„œ
21:19
and so he talks to a lot of other people
454
1279210
2130
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ
21:21
about their friendships and their relationships in general,
455
1281340
3690
๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์šฐ์ •๊ณผ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ
21:25
and has a lot of things to say about
456
1285030
3270
ํ•˜๊ณ 
21:28
this kind of thing, I think.
457
1288300
1300
์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•  ๋ง์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:29
David, what would you say makes a better friend?
458
1289600
4820
๋” ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ?
21:34
Makes someone a good friend?
459
1294420
1980
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค?
21:36
- Sure.
460
1296400
2040
- ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
21:38
First of all I guess while I'm thinking of it,
461
1298440
1680
์šฐ์„  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด๋ฉด
21:40
I think part of what's interesting is that
462
1300130
2910
ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
21:43
from a non-native speaker's perspective
463
1303040
2080
๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ์˜ ๊ด€์ 
21:45
or someone who's new to American culture,
464
1305120
2940
์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ ‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ
21:48
I think because of advertising and sort of
465
1308060
4860
๊ด‘๊ณ ์™€
21:52
just the way things look from the outside,
466
1312920
4840
์™ธ๋ถ€์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์ด ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:57
I think it's easy to assume that for all of us really
467
1317770
4300
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง
22:02
that for other people, making friends is really easy.
468
1322070
3680
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:05
I think it's something that we feel like
469
1325750
2640
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”
22:08
we should be able to do,
470
1328390
3350
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
22:11
well, everybody else is out there having a good time,
471
1331740
1940
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ,
22:13
look at everybody on TV, when in reality,
472
1333680
2560
TV์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š”
22:16
I think the opposite is true,
473
1336240
1970
๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:18
I think the majority of people are either
474
1338210
4080
๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
22:22
wishing they had more friendships
475
1342290
1900
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์šฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ
22:24
or wishing that things about the friendships
476
1344190
3710
๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์šฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด
22:27
that they do have might be a little bit different,
477
1347900
2880
์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:30
like they often wish that they were more close
478
1350780
2930
์ข…์ข… ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์›Œ์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:33
with more people.
479
1353710
1420
.
22:35
So I think that's the first thing that popped in my mind
480
1355130
1850
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€
22:36
is that a lot of people,
481
1356980
4000
๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
22:40
non-native speakers and native speakers alike
482
1360980
2780
๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ
22:43
struggle with this, even though I don't think,
483
1363760
1800
์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:45
I mean, I really appreciate the courage in the question
484
1365560
1982
22:47
because I don't think a lot of people bring this up.
485
1367542
2737
๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ œ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:50
- Yeah, it's a good point.
486
1370279
2031
- ๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:52
I mean as I'm sitting here listening to you talk about this
487
1372310
3640
์ œ ๋ง์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์•‰์•„์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด์„œ
22:55
I'm thinking I could definitely say that this is true
488
1375950
3560
์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
22:59
of me living in Philadelphia.
489
1379510
1880
ํ•„๋ผ๋ธํ”ผ์•„์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:01
I've been here for three years now
490
1381390
1630
์ €๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์ด๊ณณ์— ์˜จ ์ง€ 3๋…„์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์šฐ์ •์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋А๊ปด์ง€๋Š” ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์„
23:03
and I'm definitely starting to make some friends
491
1383020
3810
ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:06
that feel like really, really quality friendships,
492
1386830
3440
23:10
but I can't say that I've made any of those by myself.
493
1390270
5690
.
23:15
They're all friends that I made through David,
494
1395960
2620
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ œ๊ฐ€ David๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŒ๋“  ์นœ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:18
that David already had established
495
1398580
2390
David๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ
23:20
some sort of a relationship with,
496
1400970
2010
์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:22
like I haven't met somebody that I have turned
497
1402980
2350
๋งˆ์น˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
23:25
into a friend, really, on my own.
498
1405330
3120
์ •๋ง๋กœ, ํ˜ผ์ž์„œ์š”.
23:28
- You've been connected to some friends of friends.
499
1408450
2420
- ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋ช‡ ๋ช…๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:30
- Yeah. - Also.
500
1410870
2030
- ์‘. - ๋˜ํ•œ.
23:32
- I mean, that's always the end, right?
501
1412900
2380
- ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋์ด์•ผ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€?
23:35
When you move somewhere new, you look for connections
502
1415280
3130
์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ•  ๋•Œ
23:38
you have to people that are there already,
503
1418410
2540
์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ ์„ ์ฐพ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:40
but as far as if you were moving to America to go to school
504
1420950
5000
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ–๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š”
23:45
or for a job or something where you didn't already have
505
1425980
3620
์•„์ง ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—
23:49
anyone established in that town or in that city,
506
1429600
3400
์ •์ฐฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์„์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
23:53
that would make it really hard to know where to start.
507
1433000
2710
์–ด๋””์„œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผํ• ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:55
And I think for me, I could definitely say as an adult
508
1435710
4450
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์„ฑ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ
24:00
three years into that experience,
509
1440160
2640
๊ทธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ 3๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:02
I don't really have people that I have met
510
1442800
2920
24:05
because I have been introduced to them in a way other than
511
1445720
4250
24:09
through someone I already knew.
512
1449970
2470
์ด๋ฏธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์†Œ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:12
- Yeah, I follow.
513
1452440
833
- ๋„ค, ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:13
Right, it's not easy.
514
1453273
1837
๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:15
- No, it's really but.
515
1455110
1490
- ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋งŒ.
24:16
But having said that, we do have good friends here
516
1456600
3770
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
24:20
and it is true that Americans do value friendship,
517
1460370
3300
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ์ •์„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:23
even though probably a lot of people
518
1463670
2240
์•„๋งˆ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค
24:25
might like to have more friends
519
1465910
1680
๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ
24:27
or more closer friendships than they have.
520
1467590
2200
๋‚˜ ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์šฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:29
- Yeah, I think to answer that part of her question,
521
1469790
2567
- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋‹ตํ•˜์ž๋ฉด,
24:32
absolutely I think Americans very much value friendships.
522
1472357
3910
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ์ •์„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:36
Of course, it looks different in in all cultures,
523
1476267
4163
๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฌธํ™”๊ถŒ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ
24:40
but I think also something,
524
1480430
4630
๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์  ๋”๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋ฉด ์–ด๋ ค์šธ
24:45
and the comment is also true that it can,
525
1485060
4260
์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:49
it can be difficult when it is across gender.
526
1489320
4780
.
24:54
I mean, yes, your video with Dave at the park,
527
1494100
2960
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์˜ˆ, ๊ณต์›์—์„œ Dave์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋Š”
24:57
it's a great video and you guys are good friends
528
1497060
2130
ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค์ด๊ณ  ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ
24:59
and it is not a big deal at all,
529
1499190
2036
์ด๋ฉฐ ์ „ํ˜€ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
25:01
but I also think it's not uncommon for that to be
530
1501226
3804
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
25:05
something that causes tension in relationships--
531
1505030
3666
๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๊ธด์žฅ์„ ์œ ๋ฐœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋“œ๋ฌธ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค --
25:08
- And complication, yeah, I thought it--
532
1508696
2381
- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘์ฆ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”--
25:11
- Not really complication, but tension.
533
1511080
3940
- ์ •๋ง ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘์ฆ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ. ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ์‹ 
25:15
There's a temptation to be distrustful of your partner.
534
1515020
4800
ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์œ ํ˜น์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
25:19
- Yes, but I'm talking about for single people,
535
1519830
3050
- ์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋…์‹ ์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:22
there's complication there.
536
1522880
1430
๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํ•ฉ๋ณ‘์ฆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:24
I mean you're talking about if you're married,
537
1524310
2540
๋‚ด ๋ง์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
25:26
then like this person said, after marriage,
538
1526850
3460
์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ํ›„์—๋Š”
25:30
then friendship suffers and you can't keep close friends,
539
1530310
3790
์šฐ์ •์ด ์†์ƒ๋˜๊ณ  ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ด์„ฑ๊ณผ
25:34
keep close friendship with the opposite sex.
540
1534100
1550
์นœ๋ฐ€ํ•œ ์šฐ์ •์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค .
25:35
- Yeah, I was commenting on that part.
541
1535650
1260
- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:36
- Okay, so yes, you're right,
542
1536910
1800
- ์ข‹์•„, ๋„ค, ๋งž์•„์š”.
25:38
it can be complicated if David had,
543
1538710
2290
๋ฐ์ด๋น„๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ณต์žกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
25:41
although you do have really close friends that are women,
544
1541000
2320
๋น„๋ก ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ์นœํ•œ ์—ฌ์ž ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
25:43
and it's not weird for me, yeah,
545
1543320
1930
๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ๋Š” ์ด์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
25:45
but I suppose it could be,
546
1545250
1220
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
25:46
depending on if one friendship just really
547
1546470
2830
๋งŒ์•ฝ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์šฐ์ •์€
25:49
set out from the rest, stood out from the rest
548
1549300
2610
๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€์—์„œ
25:51
as being just extra super important to you,
549
1551910
3560
๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:55
that could be hard for me.
550
1555470
1210
์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:56
- Well, I'm not saying it should cause tension,
551
1556680
1681
- ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
25:58
I think it should be the opposite.
552
1558361
849
๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ
25:59
I think it should be,
553
1559210
1020
ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:00
the assumption should be that it's healthy and good and fine
554
1560230
3890
๊ฐ€์ •์€ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ข‹๊ณ  ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ด์•ผ
26:04
but I'm just, to her point,
555
1564120
1970
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ
26:06
it's not just in the culture that she's coming from,
556
1566090
2900
๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ๋ฌธํ™”
26:08
but I think here also, people make undue tension
557
1568990
5000
๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ๋„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณผ๋„ํ•œ ๊ธด์žฅ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:14
out of that situation here as well.
558
1574010
1670
์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ.
26:15
- Yet in America, it's definitely allowed.
559
1575680
2390
- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ—ˆ์šฉ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์ด์„ฑ
26:18
It's definitely not strange to have friends
560
1578070
2150
์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:20
of the opposite sex after you've become married.
561
1580220
2270
.
26:22
And it sounds like she might be saying
562
1582490
1510
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ๋ˆˆ์‚ด์„ ์ฐŒํ‘ธ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆด์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ,
26:24
it's really frowned upon in her culture, but I do value,
563
1584000
6320
์ €๋Š”
26:30
like we have a friend who was one of my friends,
564
1590320
3390
์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€๋˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:33
now you've become really close with her, Renee,
565
1593710
2229
์ด์ œ ๋‹น์‹  ์€ Renee์™€ ์ •๋ง ์นœํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:35
and I love that you're so close with her
566
1595939
2571
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋„
26:38
because I love her too.
567
1598510
2405
๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:40
But yeah, I think that can be really special.
568
1600915
4038
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
26:44
I do think when you're single
569
1604953
2477
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋…์‹ 
26:47
and you're friends with someone of the opposite sex
570
1607430
3740
์ด๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ
26:51
who's also single, if that friendship gets really close,
571
1611170
3470
์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ ์ด์„ฑ๊ณผ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ผ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ ์šฐ์ •์ด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์›Œ์ง€๋ฉด
26:54
it can start to be complicated,
572
1614640
2730
๋ณต์žกํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:57
people might be asking you a lot
573
1617370
1710
26:59
if there's something going on,
574
1619080
1500
.
27:00
and I just know from personal experience that,
575
1620580
3480
๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ†ตํ•ด
27:04
at one point, at some point,
576
1624060
2680
์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š”
27:06
you may need to have a conversation like,
577
1626740
1985
27:08
"Are we just friends, or are we more than friends?"
578
1628725
2945
"์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ด์ƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?"
27:11
- Yeah, I see where you're going with this.
579
1631670
1630
- ๋„ค, ์ด๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:13
Yeah, that's over more into what's romantic and what's not.
580
1633300
4580
์˜ˆ, ๋‚ญ๋งŒ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:17
- Actually, there was a Seinfeld episode,
581
1637880
1840
-์‹ค์€ Seinfeld ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
27:19
do you remember, David, where they were talking about
582
1639720
2380
David,
27:22
can men and women be friends?
583
1642100
3040
๋‚จ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
27:25
- And I think it was Seinfeld was saying,
584
1645140
3300
- Seinfeld๊ฐ€ "
27:28
no, they can't be, they can't be real friends.
585
1648440
3510
์•ˆ๋ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง„์งœ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
27:31
They can't be friends where there's not any thought
586
1651950
2510
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ญ๋งŒ์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œก์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋Œ๋ฆผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:34
of romantic or physical attraction happening.
587
1654460
5120
.
27:39
- Okay. - That was Seinfeld's take.
588
1659580
2930
- ์ข‹์•„์š”. - ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ Seinfeld์˜ ํ…Œ์ดํฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:42
I would disagree, I think you can have a friendship
589
1662510
2390
๋‚˜๋Š” ๋™์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ญ๋งŒ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์œก์ฒด์  ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ์™ธ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ์šฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:44
that exists totally outside of the romantic
590
1664900
2870
27:47
and the physical.
591
1667770
908
.
27:48
- I agree.
592
1668678
1002
- ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋™์˜ํ•œ๋‹ค.
27:49
- Okay, but let's go back to the question
593
1669680
3470
- ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
27:53
how to build more supportive friendships?
594
1673150
3410
๋” ํž˜์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์šฐ์ •์„ ์Œ“๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€ ๋ณผ๊นŒ์š”?
27:56
I mean I guess I would say, if it's an issue of
595
1676560
3600
๋‚ด ๋ง์€ , ์• ์ดˆ์—
28:00
finding the people who you want to be friends with
596
1680160
2230
์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๋ฉด,
28:02
in the first place, I mean,
597
1682390
1090
28:03
I know that this has been an issue for me,
598
1683480
2110
์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
28:05
how do I meet people?
599
1685590
2490
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
28:08
When I think back on times when it was easy to meet people,
600
1688080
2260
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์› ๋˜ ์‹œ์ ˆ์„ ๋Œ์ด์ผœ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š”
28:10
it's like college, where there was this set place and time
601
1690350
3870
์ผ์ •ํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์™€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋Œ€ํ•™ ์‹œ์ ˆ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:14
where you were seeing people on a regular basis.
602
1694220
2550
. ์ง์žฅ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ํ•™๊ต์— ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์„ฑ์ธ
28:16
How do you recreate that as an adult no longer in school
603
1696770
4810
์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์žฌํ˜„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
28:21
outside of work?
604
1701580
1470
?
28:23
I mean, you could take a class.
605
1703050
1378
์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:24
That's always a popular thing, take a class,
606
1704428
3612
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ธ๊ธฐ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ค์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
28:28
something where you're gonna be seeing
607
1708040
1330
28:29
the same people over and over
608
1709370
1440
28:30
that you have a common interest with.
609
1710810
1860
๊ณตํ†ต ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:32
-I think one of the things
610
1712670
2953
-๋‚ด๊ฐ€
28:35
that I suggest to people is
611
1715623
2546
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ์•ˆํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
28:38
spend some time thinking about
612
1718169
1481
28:39
what are you most interested in,
613
1719650
1780
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€,
28:41
what are you most passionate about,
614
1721430
2910
๊ฐ€์žฅ ์—ด์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€,
28:44
what brings out the best side of you,
615
1724340
1860
๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฉด์„ ์ด๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์ด
28:46
your curious engaged self?
616
1726210
2630
๋งŽ์€ ์•ฝํ˜ผํ•œ ์ž์•„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:48
And then go find that out in the world somewhere
617
1728840
2783
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์—์„œ
28:51
where there are gonna be other people
618
1731623
1857
28:53
who are also interested in that.
619
1733480
1290
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
28:54
So in other words, sometimes people think they should
620
1734770
3830
์ฆ‰, ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ „์— ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ ค๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
28:58
take up a whole new interest in a class,
621
1738600
4600
์ˆ˜์—…์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:03
like I've never drawn before,
622
1743210
1610
29:04
so there's this part of my brain that goes
623
1744820
1590
29:06
I should go take a drawing class.
624
1746410
1770
.
29:08
Well actually, maybe it's not the best idea.
625
1748180
2550
๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ตœ์„ ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:10
Go find something that you know is gonna have you
626
1750730
2500
๋‹น์‹ ์ด
29:13
really, really energized and curious
627
1753230
3870
์ •๋ง๋กœ, ์ •๋ง ํ™œ๋ ฅ์ด ๋„˜์น˜๊ณ  ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
29:17
because I think then you're gonna be
628
1757100
3080
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ
29:20
meeting other people who are passionate about what you are,
629
1760180
2852
์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—ด์ •์ ์ธ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
29:23
and it can make an easy bridge into
630
1763032
2768
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:25
some opening conversations.
631
1765800
1600
.
29:27
- That's a good idea, a good point,
632
1767400
1374
- ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”
29:28
go with something you know you love already.
633
1768774
2516
๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค .
29:31
Another thing is I have a friend, Cara,
634
1771290
2340
๋˜ ํ•œ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š”
29:33
who just has the personality for meeting people.
635
1773630
2900
๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ธ ์นด๋ผ๋ผ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
29:36
She'll be on the subway and strike up a conversation.
636
1776530
2950
๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ง€ํ•˜์ฒ ์—์„œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:39
She'll be checking out at a grocery store
637
1779480
2370
๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ์ ์—์„œ ์ฒดํฌ์•„์›ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์ฒดํฌ์•„์›ƒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด
29:41
and she'll make friends with people in line
638
1781850
3260
์ค„์„ ์„œ์„œ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ
29:45
waiting to check out as well.
639
1785110
1720
๋„ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:46
And that's not my personality, but I mean,
640
1786830
2450
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
29:49
there's definitely something to be said for being outgoing
641
1789280
2890
ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์™ธํ–ฅ์ ์œผ๋กœ
29:52
and just saying, "Oh hey, isn't this funny how",
642
1792170
4150
"์•ผ, ์ด๊ฑฐ ์›ƒ๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ˆ? "๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
29:56
whatever, starting a conversation.
643
1796320
1963
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ•  ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:58
- Right, the temptation is to think,
644
1798283
3677
- ๋งž์•„์š”, ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์œ ํ˜น์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:01
well, I need to make some friends,
645
1801960
1590
30:03
I have to go find some big, deep, meaningful friendships,
646
1803550
3310
ํฌ๊ณ  ๊นŠ๊ณ  ์˜๋ฏธ ์žˆ๋Š” ์šฐ์ •์„ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
30:06
when in reality the only way to do that
647
1806860
1960
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด
30:08
is to be always aware that you're sort of
648
1808820
3500
30:12
currently looking for friends and to strike up conversations
649
1812320
2860
ํ˜„์žฌ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:15
'cause we don't know who's gonna actually be someone
650
1815180
4700
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
30:19
that we have a good connection with
651
1819880
1980
30:21
unless we actually are out there,
652
1821860
1790
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ
30:23
talking to lots of different people.
653
1823650
1550
๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:25
- Yeah, start small.
654
1825200
1981
- ๋„ค, ์ž‘๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
30:27
And I think in the US,
655
1827181
1269
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”
30:28
it is very appropriate to strike up conversations.
656
1828450
2720
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ ์ ˆํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:31
Strike up means to start,
657
1831170
2850
์ŠคํŠธ๋ผ์ดํฌ ์—…์€ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋ฉฐ
30:34
and they can be sort of out of the blue.
658
1834020
1900
๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:35
Now we recently recorded a podcast where I was talking about
659
1835930
3640
์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ์—
30:39
how that's my pet peeve.
660
1839570
2610
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด ์• ์™„ ๋™๋ฌผ ์˜ค์คŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ํŒŸ ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:42
As an introvert,
661
1842180
818
30:42
I just don't like having these kinds of conversations,
662
1842998
2811
๋‚ดํ–ฅ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ
์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ
30:45
but don't let that stop you.
663
1845809
2781
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
30:48
If you're an extrovert where you're trying to make friends,
664
1848590
3180
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋ ค๋Š” ์™ธํ–ฅ์ ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
30:51
just go ahead and start up conversations with people.
665
1851770
3200
๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š”
30:54
You can comment on anything,
666
1854970
1900
๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋‹ฌ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
30:56
something that's happening around you, or,
667
1856870
2387
30:59
"Man, it's so hot today, isn't it?"
668
1859257
1753
"์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฅ์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:01
Or something like that.
669
1861010
950
31:01
Or you could say to someone, "Oh, I love your jacket."
670
1861960
4014
๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ.
๋˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ "์˜ค, ๋‹น์‹  ์žฌํ‚ท์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์•„์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:05
Compliment them in some way,
671
1865974
2036
์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์นญ์ฐฌํ•˜๊ณ 
31:08
engage them in conversation.
672
1868010
3690
๋Œ€ํ™”์— ์ฐธ์—ฌ์‹œํ‚ค์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
31:11
Yeah and just, for me,
673
1871700
2980
์˜ˆ, ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
31:14
that would really be pushing myself,
674
1874680
1390
์ •๋ง ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ
31:16
but for some people, it's not.
675
1876070
1730
์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:17
But okay, so we've talked about ways
676
1877800
2210
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
31:20
where you can try to start friendships.
677
1880010
2420
์šฐ์ •์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:22
And we've established that we think Americans are
678
1882430
3010
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด
31:25
open to people striking up conversation with them.
679
1885440
3850
๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•๋ฆฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:29
- Yeah, for the most part.
680
1889290
833
- ๋„ค, ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:30
I mean I think also, for better or for worse,
681
1890123
2830
์ œ ๋ง์€ ์ข‹๋“  ๋‚˜์˜๋“ 
31:32
for people like yourself who are an introvert,
682
1892953
2637
๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‚ดํ–ฅ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
31:35
it's also very appropriate in this country to,
683
1895590
3355
์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ์ ์ ˆํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:38
the phrase is to blow people off,
684
1898945
2535
31:41
or to be just pretty disinterested
685
1901480
2630
31:44
if someone tries to strike up a conversation with you.
686
1904110
2830
๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”.
31:46
So you have to kind of know that half
687
1906940
3560
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜
31:50
or maybe even more than that,
688
1910500
1603
๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:52
that the conversations that you try to strike up with people
689
1912103
2566
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ™”๋Š”
31:54
people are gonna be kind of disinterested,
690
1914669
2040
๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ฌด๊ด€์‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ ,
31:56
maybe not make eye contact with you,
691
1916709
2363
์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋งˆ์ฃผ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
31:59
and quickly wrap up the conversation.
692
1919072
2508
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:01
And that's totally appropriate socially as well.
693
1921580
2960
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ ์ ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:04
That's called giving a subtle social cue that,
694
1924540
4034
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
32:08
"Actually, I don't really want to talk right now,
695
1928574
2843
"์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๋‹จ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:11
"thanks but no thanks on your offer of a conversation."
696
1931420
4280
32:15
People aren't gonna come out and say,
697
1935700
960
32:16
"Please stop talking to me"--
698
1936677
1233
๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ"--
32:17
- Right, they'll just drop hints.
699
1937910
2180
- ๋งž์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํžŒํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:20
- Drop hints, yeah.
700
1940090
1670
- ํžŒํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:21
- And don't let that discourage you,
701
1941760
1760
- ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ์‹ค๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” .
32:23
that just means that person wasn't in the mood that day,
702
1943520
2550
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ๋‚  ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:26
but you can definitely keep trying and you may find that
703
1946070
4510
๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋ฉด
32:30
you find someone who's also in the mood
704
1950580
1710
32:32
to strike up a conversation or make a friend.
705
1952290
2430
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋“œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:34
Another thing is where you're living,
706
1954720
2350
๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ,
32:37
try to explore the places around there.
707
1957070
2591
์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ํƒ์ƒ‰ํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
32:39
If you find a local restaurant or coffee shop or park,
708
1959661
4469
ํ˜„์ง€ ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘ ์ด๋‚˜ ์ปคํ”ผ์ˆ์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ฉด ๋˜๋Š” ๊ณต์›์—
32:44
go there to try to strike up these conversations
709
1964130
2400
๊ฐ€์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์„ธ์š”
32:46
because then you're very likely gonna be talking to people
710
1966530
2680
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด
32:49
who live around you or have the same interests as you.
711
1969210
3062
์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:52
- that's happened to you and I
712
1972272
1688
- ์ž‘๋…„์— ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด
32:53
a couple times during the last year and a half,
713
1973960
3400
๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ˜์€
32:57
since stony's been born, going to the play space
714
1977360
3800
์Šคํ† ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ์ดํ›„๋กœ
33:01
and other areas around our house.
715
1981160
2108
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ๋†€์ด ๊ณต๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฅ์†Œ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:03
When you see the same person three or four times in a row,
716
1983268
3262
๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ t ์„œ๋„ˆ ๋ฒˆ ์—ฐ์†์œผ๋กœ ์•„๋ฌด
33:06
even without having said anything,
717
1986530
2970
๋ง๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„
33:09
you then kind of have an idea that,
718
1989500
1627
33:11
"Oh, this person is gonna be here on a regular basis",
719
1991127
2543
"์•„, ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์˜ฌ๊ฑฐ์•ผ"๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค๊ณ  ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€
33:13
and it makes it easy then to go up and say hello
720
1993670
2900
์‰ฌ์›Œ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:16
'cause it gives you a way to say, "Hey, I noticed
721
1996570
3297
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ "์ด๋ด,
33:19
"you guys have been here a couple,
722
1999867
1694
"๋„ˆํฌ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ์™€๋ดค์–ด,
33:21
"the same times I have", is sort of a bridge into
723
2001561
2649
"๋‚˜๋ž‘ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์—" ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•˜์–ด
33:24
starting a conversation.
724
2004210
1830
.
33:26
- Now let's talk about going up and saying hello
725
2006040
2510
- ์ด์ œ
33:28
if English isn't your native language
726
2008550
3270
์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ 
33:31
and you sometimes have a hard time understanding Americans.
727
2011820
4270
๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
33:36
That could really stop somebody from doing that,
728
2016090
2310
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ง‰์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
33:38
that could really be a mental block.
729
2018400
2240
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ •์‹ ์  ์ฐจ๋‹จ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:40
- Yeah, I think that that's right.
730
2020640
1220
- ๋„ค, ๋งž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
33:41
- And I guess what I would say there is,
731
2021860
2460
- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€
33:44
don't assume that the person isn't willing
732
2024320
2880
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค
33:47
to try to help you figure out conversation.
733
2027200
2750
.
33:49
Some people may not be interested in trying to
734
2029950
4460
์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
33:54
help you understand them trying to say things
735
2034410
1950
33:56
a couple different ways,
736
2036360
1280
๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์„ ์ˆ˜๋„
33:57
but other people may be very interested,
737
2037640
1977
์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:59
"Oh, who is this person who's from somewhere else
738
2039617
2580
34:02
"who's chosen to come here?"
739
2042197
2012
34:04
So yeah, just keep trying, and not every person you talk to
740
2044209
4811
๋„ค, ๊ณ„์† ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
34:09
is going to be open to who you are,
741
2049020
1620
๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์—ด์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ,
34:10
but you'll probably find somebody eventually who is.
742
2050640
3620
๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:14
- And I think another tip too is
743
2054260
1860
- ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŒ์€
34:16
when you initiate the conversation,
744
2056120
2311
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๋•Œ,
34:18
it gives you the opportunity to go first,
745
2058431
3849
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋จผ์ € ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:22
and what I mean by that is you can say
746
2062280
3730
์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋Š”
34:26
something along the lines of, "Hi, my name is David.
747
2066010
2927
"์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ œ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ David์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:28
"I've noticed that you guys hang out here as well,
748
2068937
4850
" ๋„ˆํฌ๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋†€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•„
34:33
"and so I thought I would come over and introduce myself.
749
2073787
3660
์ฐจ๋ ธ์–ด."
34:37
"I live in the neighborhood."
750
2077447
1593
"๋™๋„ค์— ์‚ด์•„์š”."
34:39
In other words, you can be prepared to talk for 30 seconds
751
2079040
4220
๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด, ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ 30์ดˆ
34:43
or a minute about yourself in a way that
752
2083260
2270
๋˜๋Š” 1๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:45
you kind of have a chance to rehearse,
753
2085530
2130
34:47
versus going up to someone and saying,
754
2087660
2480
34:50
like as a native speaker,
755
2090140
1090
34:51
I can go up to someone and just say, "Hi, I'm David.
756
2091230
2757
"์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ €๋Š” David์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:53
"So, what are you guys up to today?"
757
2093987
3793
"๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ญํ•˜์„ธ์š”?" ๊ธด ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด ๋Œ์•„์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—
34:57
Without worrying at all about
758
2097780
2115
๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
34:59
comprehending the long answer that might come back.
759
2099895
3115
.
35:03
But I think if you're a non-native speaker
760
2103010
2060
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„ ์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
35:05
and you want to sort of avoid that,
761
2105070
2330
35:07
you can kind of talk for a little bit,
762
2107400
1939
35:09
versus opening with a quick question.
763
2109339
2521
์งง์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. -
35:11
- Yeah, you can sort of prepare
764
2111860
1570
์˜ˆ, ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์†Œ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
35:13
your little introduction.
765
2113430
1661
.
35:15
So once you've started making,
766
2115091
3378
์ผ๋‹จ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
35:18
let's call them light friendships,
767
2118469
2611
์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์šด ์šฐ์ •, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
35:21
people that you know, you're friendly with,
768
2121080
2170
์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์นœ๊ทผํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
35:23
you know their name, how do you build them
769
2123250
2480
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„
35:25
into more supportive friendships?
770
2125730
2730
๋” ํž˜์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์šฐ์ •์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
35:28
- It's the big question, right?
771
2128460
4560
- ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
35:33
- Actually, that brings me to
772
2133020
1680
35:34
another question that came in but I'd love to read now
773
2134700
2570
๋‚˜๋Š”
35:37
because I think that will become part of this conversation.
774
2137270
2500
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ฝ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:39
- Okay.
775
2139770
833
- ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:40
- So this is a question that came from
776
2140603
1847
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
35:42
one of my students in Rachel's English Academy
777
2142450
2054
Rachel's English Academy์˜ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด๊ณ 
35:44
and she's from Germany and now she lives in the US,
778
2144504
3576
๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋…์ผ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:48
and she has said to me,
779
2148080
2834
35:50
"I find that Americans are really open to talking with me
780
2150914
4207
35:55
"if I'm in a really good mood, and all I'm just,
781
2155121
3316
35:58
"all I'm saying are positive things,
782
2158437
2450
"๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
36:00
"life is good, life is great, everything's good,
783
2160887
2920
36:03
"let's have fun and talk about funny things",
784
2163807
2873
36:06
then people are really willing to engage with her.
785
2166680
2440
.
36:09
But she said, "But if I bring up something
786
2169120
3297
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
36:12
"difficult in my life,
787
2172417
1549
๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ "์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ",
36:13
"something that I'm having a problem with,
788
2173966
1821
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, "
36:15
"maybe financial difficulties or looking for a job,
789
2175787
3230
๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ์–ด๋ ค์›€ ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ตฌ์ง,
36:19
"having a hard time finding a job,
790
2179017
2370
"๊ตฌ์ง์— ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ
36:21
"or just a struggle in general, when I bring that up",
791
2181387
3743
", ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ 
36:25
she says she finds that people don't really seem
792
2185130
2580
๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
36:27
to want to talk about it.
793
2187710
1590
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ 
36:29
She said of course there are a few times
794
2189300
1970
๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:31
where she's found people who are willing to
795
2191270
2130
36:33
discuss this with her, but in general,
796
2193400
2220
๊ทธ๋…€, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
36:35
people seem to kind of turn away
797
2195620
1770
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
36:37
from that kind of conversation
798
2197390
1730
36:39
about the harder things in life,
799
2199120
2180
์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋” ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์™ธ๋ฉดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ
36:41
but the things that are present for everybody.
800
2201300
3440
๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š”
36:44
Were you gonna say something?
801
2204740
2760
์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด.
36:47
- Right, I think that when we take a risk
802
2207500
4580
์œ„ํ—˜
36:52
or when we're vulnerable and share a little bit of something
803
2212080
3480
ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ์•ฝํ•˜๊ณ  ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊นŠ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ๋•Œ
36:55
that's real or something that's deep,
804
2215560
2480
36:58
she gives great examples there about things that are hard,
805
2218040
3060
๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:01
when we are with someone who has been a casual friend
806
2221100
3660
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜€๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ
37:04
and we take a risk and share something that is
807
2224760
3250
๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ๋•Œ
37:08
really deep for us that's a real struggle,
808
2228010
4181
์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๊นŠ์€ ๊ฒƒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ํˆฌ์Ÿ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:12
I think that's sort of how you figure out
809
2232191
3319
37:15
which of your casual friends
810
2235510
1902
์บ์ฃผ์–ผ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘
37:17
are the relationships to really invest in
811
2237412
2678
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํˆฌ์ž
37:20
and go for more depth with.
812
2240090
2430
ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜์žˆ๋Š” ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
37:22
I mean, just to put some numbers on it,
813
2242520
2020
์ œ ๋ง์€, ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ์ข€ ๋” ํ•˜์ž๋ฉด,
37:24
I think if you have 10 casual friends
814
2244540
2350
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ 10๋ช…์ด
37:26
and with each of those 10 people, at some point,
815
2246890
2660
์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ 10๋ช… ๊ฐ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š”
37:29
you take a risk and really share something about yourself,
816
2249550
2521
์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๋ฌด๋ฆ…์“ฐ๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต์œ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
37:32
I would expect that probably two
817
2252071
2289
์•„๋งˆ ๋‘ ๋ช…
37:34
out of those 10 conversations
818
2254360
1500
์ค‘ ๋‘ ๋ช…์€ ๊ทธ 10๊ฐœ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋Š”
37:35
would then go into a deeper, fuller conversation.
819
2255860
5280
๋” ๊นŠ๊ณ  ์™„์ „ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:41
It's sort of like with the initial conversation
820
2261140
4900
๋งˆ์น˜
37:46
with someone in line at the grocery store,
821
2266050
2010
์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ์ ์—์„œ ์ค„์„ ์„œ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ์˜ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ
37:48
you strike up 10 of those conversations,
822
2268060
1880
10๋ฒˆ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:49
probably only two of those conversations
823
2269940
1960
์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ ๋Œ€ํ™” ์ค‘ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ
37:51
are gonna be more than just a quick casual,
824
2271900
3800
37:55
"Hey, how's it going?"
825
2275700
1380
"์ด๋ด, ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด?"
37:57
So I think it's difficult because
826
2277082
2740
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
37:59
when we're being vulnerable and sharing things
827
2279822
3948
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ทจ์•ฝํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
38:03
that are difficult, we really,
828
2283770
2140
์ •๋ง๋กœ
38:05
we're putting ourself out there,
829
2285910
1620
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚ด๋†“๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ
38:07
so it's hard to be rejected,
830
2287530
1650
๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€๋‹นํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต
38:09
or maybe that's too strong of a word, but maybe not.
831
2289180
3970
๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:13
It's a feeling of rejection that comes up
832
2293150
1580
38:14
when the other person doesn't want to engage.
833
2294730
2900
์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์ด ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๋•Œ ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:17
Let's talk eight out of 10 times,
834
2297630
1750
10๋ฒˆ ์ค‘ 8๋ฒˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
38:19
people aren't really interested in the fact
835
2299380
1630
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
38:21
that you just shared something
836
2301010
1010
๋‹น์‹ ์ด
38:22
that you're really struggling with.
837
2302020
1711
์ •๋ง๋กœ ํž˜๋“ค์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๋ณ„๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:23
The other side is if you can think about it as
838
2303731
2762
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธก๋ฉด์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
38:26
from the positive side, you've found two people
839
2306493
3540
๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
38:30
with whom you can now really invest deeply with,
840
2310033
4527
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊นŠ์ด ํˆฌ์žํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:34
I think that's a pretty compelling reason to say that
841
2314560
2700
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
38:37
the eight shutdowns, shoot, what's it called?
842
2317260
2780
์—ฌ๋Ÿ ๋ฒˆ์˜ ์ข…๋ฃŒ, ์ดฌ์˜, ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š”?
38:40
Being shot down are worth it.
843
2320040
2920
๊ฒฉ์ถ”๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:42
- Yeah, so okay, a couple things here.
844
2322960
2812
- ๋„ค, ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ์š”.
38:45
One thing is how to build more supportive,
845
2325772
2788
ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๋” ์ง€์›์ ์ด๊ณ  ๊นŠ์€ ์šฐ์ •์„ ์Œ“๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
38:48
deeper friendships.
846
2328560
1040
.
38:49
One way is to simply open up more and tell more
847
2329600
2960
ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ด๊ณ 
38:52
things about yourself, including things that are hard,
848
2332560
2580
์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ, ๋”
38:55
being more real, more vulnerable.
849
2335140
3900
ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ทจ์•ฝํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๋“ฑ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:59
And then David's talking about when you
850
2339040
2260
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  David๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
39:01
try to deepen a friendship by doing that,
851
2341300
2977
๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์šฐ์ •์„ ๋ˆ๋…ํžˆ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ
39:04
there's maybe a very good chance that that person
852
2344277
4373
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ
39:08
is not ready to have that kind of a friendship with you
853
2348650
2890
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์šฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
39:11
and is just gonna kind of find a way to change the subject
854
2351540
3220
์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:14
of the conversation, but a couple will likely be willing to
855
2354760
4880
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถ€๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด
39:19
be more receptive to that.
856
2359640
2840
๋” ์ž˜ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:22
So maybe what this woman who submitted this comment,
857
2362480
5500
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ์ œ์ถœํ•œ ์ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ,
39:27
maybe the culture where she is in,
858
2367980
2500
์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์†ํ•œ ๋ฌธํ™”, ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋œ ๊นŠ์€ ์šฐ์ •๊ณผ์˜
39:30
it's more normal to talk about struggles
859
2370480
3030
ํˆฌ์Ÿ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์ •์ƒ์ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
39:33
with friendships that are a little bit less deep.
860
2373510
3460
.
39:36
I mean for me, if I have a casual acquaintance with someone
861
2376970
5310
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
39:42
and they start talking about something
862
2382280
3117
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ๊ตฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
39:45
that they're struggling with, this is awful,
863
2385397
3613
, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋”์ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
39:49
but part of me starts to wonder,
864
2389010
1467
๋‚ด ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "
39:50
"What do they, what are they trying to get out of me?
865
2390477
1910
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
39:52
"What do they want me to do for them?"
866
2392387
2423
๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
39:54
Isn't that horrible?
867
2394810
1020
๋”์ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
39:55
Whereas if it's a good friend, then I'm all ears,
868
2395830
2840
์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๊ณ 
39:58
I'm listening, I'm engaged, I want to help that person,
869
2398670
3540
๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•ฝํ˜ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋•๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:02
I want to be there for that person,
870
2402210
1440
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์˜†์— ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ ์น˜๋„๋ก
40:03
I want to help him or her fix whatever is wrong,
871
2403650
3350
๋•๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
40:07
but if it's someone I don't really know
872
2407000
1790
์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์‚ถ์˜ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ ์—
40:08
and they start talking about what's difficult in their life,
873
2408790
3070
๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
40:11
I find that I don't really know what to do with that
874
2411860
2600
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๊ณ 
40:14
and I start to think, "Why are they telling me this?"
875
2414460
3410
์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์™œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง€?"
40:17
Do you ever feel that?
876
2417870
950
๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‚ด ๋ง์€
40:18
I mean how do you, I guess it depends on
877
2418820
2460
40:21
how you're defining an acquaintance,
878
2421280
1630
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ •์˜ํ•˜๋А๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ,
40:22
but David's looking at me like he maybe doesn't agree.
879
2422910
3000
David์˜ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋™์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:25
- I think, no, not that I don't agree,
880
2425910
3050
- ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋™์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
40:28
I think that what's coming up for you in those moments
881
2428960
2050
๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
40:31
is your discomfort and you're not,
882
2431010
2560
๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•จ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:33
your disinterest in taking that relationship
883
2433570
3440
g
40:37
to a deeper place.
884
2437010
1110
๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„.
40:38
I mean again, I would focus on the two out of 10 times
885
2438120
2330
๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, 10๋ฒˆ ์ค‘ 2๋ฒˆ์€
40:40
when it does feel right.
886
2440450
2196
์˜ณ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋‚„ ๋•Œ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 10๋ฒˆ ์ค‘ 8๋ฒˆ์„ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ
40:42
I don't think we can spend a ton of time
887
2442646
3414
๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ
40:46
examining the eight out of 10,
888
2446060
1534
40:47
but I think your energy is much better spent on
889
2447594
3580
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์—ด๊ณ  ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋Š” 10๋ฒˆ ์ค‘ 2๋ฒˆ ์— ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž˜ ์“ฐ์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:51
those two out of 10 times when somebody that is
890
2451174
2806
40:53
a casual friend to you opens up and starts sharing with you
891
2453980
4100
๋‹น์‹ 
40:58
and you're kind of like, "Oh, wow, we're going there.
892
2458080
3397
๊ณผ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ "์˜ค, ์™€์šฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐˆ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
41:01
"Okay, that's kind of, I wasn't expecting this,
893
2461477
3250
"์ข‹์•„์š”, ์ด๊ฑด ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:04
"but all right, okay, I'm listening."
894
2464727
3333
"ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์•„, ์ข‹์•„, ๋“ฃ๊ณ ์žˆ์–ด."
41:08
- So one of the things that she had said was
895
2468060
2050
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
41:10
she feels like Americans
896
2470110
1230
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€
41:11
only want to talk about positive things,
897
2471340
1730
๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:13
and I guess what we are saying here is that
898
2473070
3190
์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
41:16
that is probably true of acquaintances
899
2476260
2840
์ง€์ธ๋“ค
41:19
and people of a certain level of friendship,
900
2479100
2430
๊ณผ ์ผ์ • ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์šฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:21
but once you are spending more time with somebody
901
2481530
4300
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€
41:25
and sharing more personal things with somebody
902
2485830
2920
๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ 
41:28
and it's reciprocated, then that person will, I think,
903
2488750
4080
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ณด๋‹ตํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
41:32
definitely be willing to talk about your struggles.
904
2492830
2720
๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:35
I mean, Americans don't shy away from that,
905
2495550
2335
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ,
41:37
they just I think save that kind of conversation
906
2497885
3595
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€
41:41
for someone that they have a very particular
907
2501480
1850
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ
41:43
kind of relationship with.
908
2503330
1830
์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ €์žฅํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:45
And so that conversation happening outside of a friendship
909
2505160
3880
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
41:49
that they feel is very deep probably feels awkward,
910
2509040
2870
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋А๋ผ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊นŠ์€ ์šฐ์ • ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ™”๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋А๊ปด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
41:51
and that I think might be
911
2511910
2160
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—
41:54
where this person is feeling shut down.
912
2514070
1880
์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ํ์‡„๊ฐ์„ ๋А๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:55
- Yeah, and I think that you're right that that is,
913
2515950
1450
- ๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งž๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰,
41:57
I'm sure it's lodged in cultural norms and is different
914
2517400
3343
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌธํ™”์  ๊ทœ๋ฒ”์— ์ž๋ฆฌ ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
42:00
from place to place, from culture to culture.
915
2520743
3097
์žฅ์†Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค, ๋ฌธํ™”๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:03
But yeah I think that that's exactly right.
916
2523840
2590
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋งž๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:06
And part of what's hard is that there's no way to know
917
2526430
2220
์–ด๋ ค์šด ์  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ๋Š”
42:08
where you are sort of with another person
918
2528650
3490
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
42:12
without testing it out.
919
2532140
1130
.
42:13
- Right, and then you either get shut down
920
2533270
2190
- ๋งž์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
42:15
or the person's interested.
921
2535460
1190
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:16
- Yeah, you can try to assess and assess and assess
922
2536650
3990
- ๋„ค,
42:20
in your mind like, "Well, they said this last time,
923
2540640
2747
๋งˆ์Œ์†์œผ๋กœ "๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ฒˆ์— ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
42:23
"and I almost said something, but then I didn't,
924
2543387
1920
"๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋ป”ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , "
42:25
"and I wonder if",
925
2545307
1066
42:26
then you can go around and around in circles
926
2546373
2217
๊ทธ๋Ÿด๊นŒ?"
42:28
for hours and hours about whether or not
927
2548590
2670
42:31
this person is someone who you should take a risk with,
928
2551260
3050
์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€,
42:34
or you can just go for it, and sort of,
929
2554310
3210
์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ์ข…์˜
42:37
that takes major courage,
930
2557520
1880
ํฐ ์šฉ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ์ง€ ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์›์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋…€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
42:39
but if you can get yourself to know that,
931
2559400
1760
42:41
"Hey, you know what?
932
2561160
837
42:41
"Eight out of 10 times it may not go well,
933
2561997
2320
"์ด๋ด, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„?
" 10๋ฒˆ ์ค‘ 8๋ฒˆ์€ ์ž˜ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜
42:44
"but it's worth it because those two out of 10 times
934
2564317
2580
์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ "์ž˜ ๋˜๋Š” 10๋ฒˆ ์ค‘ 2๋ฒˆ์€
42:46
"where it does go well are really, really worth it to me,
935
2566897
3150
๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
42:50
"so I'm gonna go for it."
936
2570047
1593
" ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋ณผ๊ฒŒ."
42:51
- Yeah, that's where you start building
937
2571640
1700
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์šฐ์ •์„ ์Œ“๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์•ผ
42:53
the real friendships.
938
2573340
1440
.
42:54
And actually I think one way that you can test the waters,
939
2574780
3090
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฌผ์„ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
42:57
that is try something out with somebody,
940
2577870
3270
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:01
let's say you've met them a couple times,
941
2581140
1770
๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๊ณ 
43:02
they're an acquaintance, you maybe consider them a friend.
942
2582910
2820
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง€์ธ์ด๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ 
43:05
Rather than opening up about yourself
943
2585730
2200
์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ํ„ฐ๋†“๊ณ 
43:07
and saying something that you're struggling with
944
2587930
2030
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
43:09
or something that's hard for you to deal with,
945
2589960
2560
๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ ,
43:12
you can ask that person a question,
946
2592520
2058
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•œ
43:14
and then see how they respond.
947
2594578
2212
๋‹ค์Œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:16
Do they go deep with their answer?
948
2596790
2140
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์— ๊นŠ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋‚˜์š”?
43:18
Or do they just sort of give a light surface answer?
949
2598930
2270
์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ‘œ๋ฉด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์šด ๋‹ต๋ณ€์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
43:21
And that's a clue, "Okay, this person isn't ready
950
2601200
3577
"์ข‹์•„์š”, ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
43:24
"to talk about these more important things with me,
951
2604777
2360
"๋‚˜์™€ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
43:27
"or this person is ready."
952
2607137
1973
" ๋˜๋Š” "์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
43:29
- It's a really good point,
953
2609110
1000
- ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ด์•ผ, ์•„๊นŒ
43:30
that thought had crossed my mind earlier,
954
2610110
1950
๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋‚ด ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์Šค์ณ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ”๊ณ ,
43:32
and I'm glad you brought it up, yeah, absolutely.
955
2612060
1760
๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊บผ๋‚ด์ค˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ป , ๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก .
43:33
So what would be an example of a kind of question
956
2613820
2968
๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด
43:36
that someone could ask an acquaintance/light new friend
957
2616788
5232
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
43:42
in order to see,
958
2622020
1380
43:43
"Oh, how can I try to take this friendship deeper?"
959
2623400
3640
"์˜ค, ์ด ์šฐ์ •์„ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?" -
43:47
-Yeah, I think a couple things,
960
2627040
1130
๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ค‘
43:48
I mean, one of the things is to say
961
2628170
2010
ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
43:50
something that you noticed and ask about it,
962
2630180
4860
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
43:55
"I noticed last time we were hanging out
963
2635040
2357
43:57
"that you didn't mention how your husband's doing.
964
2637397
3520
.
44:00
"Is everything going okay with you guys?"
965
2640920
4520
"๋„ˆํฌ๋“ค ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?"
44:05
- Or even just, "How is blank going?"
966
2645440
3380
- ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ "๊ณต๋ฐฑ์€ ์–ด๋•Œ?"
44:08
Even if you have no idea if it's gonna involve a good answer
967
2648830
3440
์ข‹์€ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด ๋ ์ง€
44:12
or a bad answer, just asking,
968
2652270
1837
๋‚˜์œ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด ๋ ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋”๋ผ๋„
44:14
"Oh, how are things going with the kids?
969
2654107
1670
"์˜ค, ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ˆ?
44:15
"Or how are things going at work?"
970
2655777
2082
"๋˜๋Š” ์ง์žฅ์€ ์–ด๋•Œ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”
44:17
- Yeah, anything that anybody says,
971
2657859
2418
. ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด
44:20
you can follow up with, "And how is that for you?
972
2660277
3580
ํ›„์† ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์–ด๋•Œ์š”?
44:23
"How's that going for you?"
973
2663857
1518
"๊ทธ๊ฑด ์–ด๋•Œ?"
44:25
- And then from there depending on their answer,
974
2665375
2415
- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ,
44:27
you might be able to draw them out more,
975
2667790
2420
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋” ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:30
see if they're interested in being drawn out more
976
2670210
2490
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋” ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๋งŒ์•ฝ
44:32
and if they are, then that conversation will grow,
977
2672700
2110
๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
44:34
and probably that friendship will grow.
978
2674810
3130
์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ ์šฐ์ •์€ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:37
I read an article several months ago now
979
2677940
3190
์ €๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ์ „์— ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜จ
44:41
about a bunch of high schools
980
2681130
2890
44:44
that were accepting one year,
981
2684020
2500
1๋…„
44:46
or one to two year international students from China,
982
2686520
3420
๋˜๋Š” 1~2๋…„์ œ ์œ ํ•™์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:49
the article was focusing on Chinese students
983
2689940
2020
๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋Š”
44:51
studying in American high schools.
984
2691960
1888
๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:53
And the article was talking about how hard it is
985
2693848
2432
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋Š”
44:56
for these Chinese students to make friends in America
986
2696280
2790
์ค‘๊ตญ์ธ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ ค์šด์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
44:59
and I was like, "Gosh, of course."
987
2699070
1800
์ €๋Š” "์ด๋Ÿฐ, ๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜์ง€."๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:00
And part of it is in a high school situation,
988
2700870
3970
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ
45:04
kids are using so much slang that these students are coming
989
2704840
3850
์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์†์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ
45:08
who studied English formally,
990
2708690
1760
์ •์‹์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
45:10
and they don't understand the general idea of conversation,
991
2710450
6010
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฐœ๋…์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
45:16
like they just can't keep up.
992
2716460
1480
.
45:17
And I think that would be incredibly hard.
993
2717940
2386
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:20
And I think if you're in that situation,
994
2720326
2598
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ•ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
45:22
your only hope is to ask what people mean,
995
2722924
3516
๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ํฌ๋ง์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
45:26
and probably be doing that a lot.
996
2726440
2340
์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:28
And for a lot of people, that might be annoying,
997
2728780
3170
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์งœ์ฆ๋‚˜๊ณ 
45:31
and that might turn them off, but for a few people,
998
2731950
2900
๊บผ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์†Œ์ˆ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
45:34
they'll be willing to answer you,
999
2734850
1360
๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:36
and then those are people with whom I think
1000
2736210
2410
45:38
you're gonna start to develop a more real friendship.
1001
2738620
2910
๋” ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์šฐ์ •.
45:41
What do you think, David? - Right, exactly.
1002
2741530
2110
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด, ๋ฐ์ด๋น—? - ๋งž์•„์š”.
45:43
Yeah, that's exactly right.
1003
2743640
2030
๋„ค, ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:45
- So really making friends
1004
2745670
2310
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ท€๊ณ 
45:47
and turning acquaintances into deeper friends
1005
2747980
3150
์ง€์ธ์„ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
45:51
is hugely an issue of putting yourself out there.
1006
2751130
2720
์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚ด์„ธ์šฐ๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:53
That means taking a risk, being vulnerable.
1007
2753850
4620
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ทจ์•ฝํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:58
David, talk to me about some of your best friends
1008
2758470
2880
๋ฐ์ด๋น„๋“œ,
46:01
about how you met those people,
1009
2761350
2355
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€,
46:03
where that friendship was nurtured?
1010
2763705
2501
๊ทธ ์šฐ์ •์ด ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
46:06
- Sure, so one of my closest friends
1011
2766206
4635
- ๋„ค,
46:10
I met in high school, so in ninth grade,
1012
2770841
3618
๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ธ 9ํ•™๋…„ ๋•Œ
46:14
and we had class together, and we just,
1013
2774459
3153
ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
46:17
I think the first time that we spoke
1014
2777612
1888
์ฒ˜์Œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆˆ ๊ฒƒ์€
46:19
was during an assignment in the Spanish class
1015
2779500
2770
์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์—์„œ ๊ณผ์ œ
46:22
and we hit it off.
1016
2782270
1480
๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋„๋‹ค.
46:23
We ended up both playing basketball,
1017
2783750
2470
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋†๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ ,
46:26
and that was the start of our friendship
1018
2786220
2850
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
46:29
that's still really close to this day.
1019
2789070
2680
์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์—๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์šฐ์ •์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:31
- So a friendship that carried through
1020
2791750
2460
-
46:34
from childhood?
1021
2794210
1420
์–ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด์–ด์ง„ ์šฐ์ •?
46:35
- Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, we would have been,
1022
2795630
2200
- ์˜ˆ, ์Œ-ํ , ์˜ˆ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
46:37
how old are you in ninth grade?
1023
2797830
1440
9 ํ•™๋…„ ๋•Œ ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
46:39
15, I guess.
1024
2799270
1133
15, ์•„๋งˆ.
46:40
- Yeah, 14 maybe.
1025
2800403
2537
- ๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ 14๊ฐœ์š”.
46:42
Okay so-- - So that's one extreme.
1026
2802940
1370
์•Œ์•˜์–ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ-- -๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๊ทน๋‹จ์ด์•ผ.
46:44
That's an example of a childhood friend.
1027
2804310
1610
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:45
And then I guess sort of on the other end
1028
2805920
2756
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์—๋Š”
46:48
would be someone that I met about seven years ago at work
1029
2808676
2914
์ œ๊ฐ€ 7๋…„ ์ „์— ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:51
who just from being at work together
1030
2811590
3643
๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ 
46:55
and having conversations there, realizing that,
1031
2815233
2984
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋ฉด์„œ
46:58
"Oh, you know what?
1032
2818217
833
"์˜ค, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„์š”?
46:59
"We really get along well."
1033
2819050
1440
"์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ."
47:00
And so then he and I started to hang out
1034
2820490
2350
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋‚˜๋Š”
47:02
outside of work sometimes,
1035
2822840
1270
๊ฐ€๋” ์ง์žฅ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
47:04
and that ended up becoming a very close friendship.
1036
2824110
5270
๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋งค์šฐ ์นœ๋ฐ€ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค.
47:09
I was the officiant at their wedding,
1037
2829380
2300
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์‹ ์ฃผ๋ก€๋ฅผ ๋งก์•˜๊ณ ,
47:11
and we are extremely close now and see each other a lot,
1038
2831690
4000
์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์นœํ•˜๊ณ  ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณธ๋‹ค.
47:15
even though we no longer work together,
1039
2835690
1720
๋” ์ด์ƒ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ
47:17
so that's someone who I met later in life
1040
2837410
2694
๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ด๊ธฐ๋„
47:20
who has become a very close friend as well.
1041
2840104
3874
ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„์ฃผ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š” -
47:23
- And then what about Adrian?
1042
2843978
1382
๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์•„๋“œ๋ฆฌ์•ˆ์€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€
47:25
You have a really interesting story about
1043
2845360
1397
์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ 
47:26
how you met him, don't you?
1044
2846757
1733
?
47:28
- Yeah, so we were, we had a mutual friend,
1045
2848490
2920
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
47:31
and when Adrian and I met,
1046
2851410
1598
Adrian๊ณผ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ,
47:33
we started to do some of the typical questions
1047
2853008
3652
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
47:36
back and forth about, "So, what do you do?"
1048
2856660
2157
"๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:38
And we realized that we have both done
1049
2858817
2283
47:41
restorative justice work, which is a particular kind of
1050
2861100
2932
ํšŒ๋ณต์  ์ •์˜ ์ž‘์—…์€
47:44
intervention with people in conflict,
1051
2864032
2001
๊ฐˆ๋“ฑ์— ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์ž…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:46
and then we realized that we have both done work around
1052
2866033
3645
๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์ • ํญ๋ ฅ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์™”๊ณ 
47:49
domestic violence and we were both politically engaged
1053
2869678
4742
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค
47:54
in sort of really similar ways,
1054
2874420
1630
์ •๋ง ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ •์น˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
47:56
and just sort of had this story
1055
2876050
2320
47:58
that kept mirroring each other at every turn.
1056
2878370
3350
๋งค๋ฒˆ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•˜๋Š”์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:01
And this is another example of how
1057
2881720
4020
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฒน์น˜๋Š” ์‚ถ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์ •๋ง ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์นœํ•ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
48:05
you can really quickly become close with someone
1058
2885740
2420
48:08
when you realize you have a bunch of
1059
2888160
1420
48:09
overlapping life experiences and just
1060
2889580
2823
48:12
can hit it off right away because of that.
1061
2892403
2866
.
48:15
- I had heard the story that you guys
1062
2895269
1771
-
48:17
were at a bar and you just randomly met,
1063
2897040
1620
์ˆ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ”๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
48:18
but you actually were there because
1064
2898660
1860
์‚ฌ์‹ค์€
48:20
you had a friend in common.
1065
2900520
1410
๊ณตํ†ต์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
48:21
- Yeah, mm-hmm. - Okay.
1066
2901930
1940
- ๋„ค, ์Œ-ํ . - ์ข‹์•„์š”.
48:23
But still, you strike up this conversation
1067
2903870
2210
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘
48:26
and you find you have all these things in common and then--
1068
2906080
3280
ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณตํ†ต์ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ ...
48:29
- Right, right.
1069
2909360
1283
- ๋งž์•„, ๋งž์•„.
48:30
- He's moved away now,
1070
2910643
1417
- ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ”์ง€๋งŒ
48:32
but he just visited us last week,
1071
2912060
1570
์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:33
it was great to see him.
1072
2913630
1070
๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:34
- That was great.
1073
2914700
1370
- ๋ฉ‹ ์กŒ์–ด์š”.
48:36
- Let me see if I can talk about
1074
2916070
1490
- ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์šฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์ž
48:37
some of my friendships that I have.
1075
2917560
3200
.
48:40
One of them, well, I definitely have friends from college.
1076
2920760
3360
๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋Œ€ํ•™ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:44
That's just where I met,
1077
2924130
1144
๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋Š”๋ฐ,
48:45
actually, my mom has made this comment.
1078
2925274
2596
์‚ฌ์‹ค ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
48:47
Throughout my life, I tend to have entered into
1079
2927870
3610
ํ‰์ƒ ๋™์•ˆ ์ €๋Š”
48:51
or built around me these groups of six to eight women
1080
2931480
3920
6~8๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฃน์€
48:55
and that have become really
1081
2935400
3230
์ •๋ง
48:58
close and supportive communities.
1082
2938630
2110
์นœ๋ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง€์›์ ์ธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:00
I had that in high school and growing up,
1083
2940740
2021
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ
49:02
I had the same thing in college,
1084
2942761
2294
๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
49:05
and then living in New York,
1085
2945055
1765
๋‰ด์š•์— ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ๋„
49:06
I had developed this awesome group of women too.
1086
2946820
4020
์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์„ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:10
And so that's been lucky,
1087
2950840
1690
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šด์ด ์ข‹์•˜๊ณ ,
49:12
and the growing up and the college, that's obvious,
1088
2952530
5470
์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์—ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
49:18
'cause you're together all the time in school.
1089
2958000
2600
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:20
And in New York, we all met 'cause
1090
2960617
2533
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‰ด์š•์—์„œ
49:23
we were connected through various people,
1091
2963150
2070
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๊ณ ,
49:25
and I think New York is the kind of place
1092
2965220
3850
๋‰ด์š•์€
49:29
where there are so many people
1093
2969070
1250
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ๊ธธ์„
49:30
that it's actually easy to feel lost.
1094
2970320
2670
์žƒ์€ ๋А๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ๊ณณ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
49:32
And so I think when you're going there,
1095
2972990
2450
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ
49:35
you often reach out, who do you know, who do you know,
1096
2975440
3000
์ข…์ข… ์—ฐ๋ฝ์„ ์ทจํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ,
49:38
who knows people in New York?
1097
2978440
1140
๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋‰ด์š• ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
49:39
And very often there are people who know people in New York,
1098
2979580
2786
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ์ž์ฃผ ๋‰ด์š•์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:42
and so that can kind of build a web for you
1099
2982366
2794
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์›น์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ 
49:45
when you go somewhere, and that definitely happened for me.
1100
2985160
2620
, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:47
And one of my other really close friends
1101
2987780
2870
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Rachel์˜ ์˜์–ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค์— ๋งŽ์ด ์ถœ์—ฐํ•œ ์ €์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ •๋ง ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ธ
49:50
who's been in a bunch of Rachel's English videos,
1102
2990650
2000
49:52
her name is Lynne, but we all call her Beads.
1103
2992650
2580
๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ Lynne์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ Beads๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:55
I met her from a singing gig,
1104
2995230
1943
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋…ธ๋ž˜ ๊ณต์—ฐ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๊ณ ,
49:57
and I think when you're in the arts
1105
2997173
3127
๋‹น์‹ ์ด
50:00
and theater of the performing arts,
1106
3000300
1650
๊ณต์—ฐ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ทน์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ
50:01
you can make really, really amazing friends
1107
3001950
3070
50:05
because obviously you have the same passion.
1108
3005020
2210
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ์—ด์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ทˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:07
And then when you're in a production,
1109
3007230
1390
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ”„๋กœ๋•์…˜์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
50:08
you are just hanging out together all the time.
1110
3008620
3660
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:12
- I would also say that when you're performing,
1111
3012280
2700
- ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ณต์—ฐ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
50:14
you're constantly in a state of vulnerability
1112
3014980
2590
๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ์ทจ์•ฝํ•œ ์ƒํƒœ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:17
alongside people too.
1113
3017570
927
.
50:18
- And that's interesting.
1114
3018497
1893
- ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ตฐ์š”.
50:20
Yeah, and people know what you're going through,
1115
3020390
1320
์˜ˆ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:21
like if you get sick.
1116
3021710
2410
.
50:24
As a singer, if you get a cold, your other friends are like,
1117
3024120
3877
๊ฐ€์ˆ˜๋กœ์„œ ๊ฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์€
50:27
"Oh, it's fine, it's a cold, you'll be okay",
1118
3027997
2383
"์•„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„ ๊ฐ๊ธฐ์•ผ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„๊ฑฐ์•ผ",
50:30
whereas another singer knows, "Oh my gosh, that's gonna,
1119
3030380
2907
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์ˆ˜๋“ค์€ " ์–ด๋จธ๋‚˜, ๊ทธ๋Ÿด๊ฑฐ์•ผ
50:33
"yeah I'm gonna have to figure out how to work through that,
1120
3033287
2290
"
50:35
"that's gonna be tough."
1121
3035580
2480
"ํž˜๋“ค ํ…๋ฐ."
50:38
Yeah.
1122
3038060
1370
์‘.
50:39
Well David, it's been really interesting
1123
3039430
1790
David, ๋‹น์‹ 
50:41
discussing friendships with you and just thinking about
1124
3041220
3610
๊ณผ ์šฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
50:44
how many times you might kind of reach out to somebody
1125
3044830
4660
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋” ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์†์„ ๋ป—์–ด
50:49
and have them not be interested
1126
3049490
1672
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:51
before you find someone
1127
3051162
1871
50:53
where you can develop something more.
1128
3053033
2677
.
50:55
And I'm really curious, is this very different
1129
3055710
2710
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
50:58
from what people out there experience
1130
3058420
2150
์™ธ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
51:00
in their own home culture, or is it pretty similar?
1131
3060570
4010
์ž๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ๊ฐ€์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ฝค ๋น„์Šทํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
51:04
I wish that I had the chance to talk with other people
1132
3064580
2960
๋‚˜๋Š”
51:07
from other cultures about this.
1133
3067540
1860
์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ ์˜จ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋‹ค.
51:09
But thank you guys so much for listening
1134
3069400
1470
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฝ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌ
51:10
and thank you David for being here and sharing some about
1135
3070870
3598
ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์™€์„œ
51:14
your life, your background,
1136
3074468
1752
๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ, ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ,
51:16
and your perspective on friendships.
1137
3076220
2670
์šฐ์ •์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ค€ David์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:18
- Yeah, you're welcome, that was really fun.
1138
3078890
1271
- ๋„ค, ์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”, ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
51:20
- And thanks for the questions that got written in.
1139
3080161
3349
- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž‘์„ฑํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:23
Guys, if you would like to subscribe to this podcast,
1140
3083510
2940
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
51:26
I hope you do.
1141
3086450
1090
๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:27
You can visit the iTunes Store or Stitcher to subscribe.
1142
3087540
3690
iTunes Store ๋˜๋Š” Stitcher๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
51:31
I would also love it if you would take the time
1143
3091230
1930
์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ด์–ด
51:33
to leave a review there.
1144
3093160
1140
๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฆฌ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด ์ €๋„ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:34
You know what?
1145
3094300
833
๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„?
51:35
Go do it right now.
1146
3095133
1087
์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
51:36
I read all of the reviews,
1147
3096220
1360
๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฆฌ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ์ฝ์—ˆ๊ณ 
51:37
and I really love to hear what you think about the podcast.
1148
3097580
3750
ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:41
That's it for this week, we'll be back again next week.
1149
3101330
2930
์ด๋ฒˆ์ฃผ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€, ๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:44
Can't wait to talk to you guys.
1150
3104260
2110
๋„ˆํฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด.
51:46
See you soon.
1151
3106370
1390
๊ณง ๋ด์š”.
51:47
- Bye, guys.
1152
3107760
7700
- ์•ˆ๋…•, ์–˜๋“ค์•„.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

https://forms.gle/WvT1wiN1qDtmnspy7