Making Requests with IF and Using Unreal Past Conditionals in English

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Hi everyone! It’s Jennifer with another lesson on conditionals.
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If you’ve been watching my lessons on the different kinds of if-clauses we can make,
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I hope you’re feeling more confident now about using conditional sentences in English.
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Each lesson I challenge you with a couple of tasks.
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In the previous lesson, I asked you to complete these sentences with your own ideas.
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These are conversational expressions you can use to make requests. You can use them with coworkers, classmates, neighbors, and friends.
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Both are polite because they’re unreal conditionals. I’m not telling you the way it’s going to be.
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I’m asking whether it would be all right if I got my way. I’m not demanding anything.
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Remember to speak hypothetically or to imagine a situation in the present or future,
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we use the simple past tense in the condition (that's the if-clause) and then WOULD + the base verb in the result.
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Let’s take a look at the examples you came up with and I’ll let you know how much variation is acceptable with the verb forms.
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Let's start with Aimanno's sentences.
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-ed...-ed...I like those choices. The simple past sounds fine here.
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Grammatically it's correct, but this expression is best for making requests, not invitations.
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So it might sound more natural if you said, "Would you mind if I joined you for lunch?"
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I'm asking, "Is it okay?...Can I join you for lunch?...Would you mind if I joined you for lunch?"
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Ra'ed wrote:
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I would rather see either the simple past: if you considered
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OR some people might use a modal, like "would."
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Although we don't normally use "would" in the condition,
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it's more so a modal we see in the result,
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in this expression, it is very common.
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If you would do (something): If you would consider my offer.
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We'll make it a question.
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Some people choose to use "come" and "have."
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And that would be the simple present.
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I would suggest shifting to the past.
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You can even shorten it.
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How about: Would you mind if I came over to your place tonight for dinner ?
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Marat shared some examples. He wrote:
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(I'd say "about.")
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Well, I'll consider that.
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I like your verb choices.
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That's a good context. I think it sounds fine for everyday spoken conversation.
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I might suggest, though, using "ate."
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I think "eat" sounds okay, but I'd prefer the past.
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(Yes, I would mind!)
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Lucas shared examples. He wrote:
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What a great suggestion!
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You used the simple past, but to suggest a possibility, you could use "could."
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So the simple past works, but I would suggest "could" to emphasize that possibility.
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And the second example:
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You could say: Would you mind if I arrived a little later than planned?
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And it sounds very natural. That's a good question to ask either over the phone or by text.
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Mollie shared her examples. First:
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It sounds okay, but you know what I would prefer?
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Either the simple past (opened) or a modal verb (if you would open).
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Then you could use the contraction, and it would sound like this?
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Second:
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Again, it sounds okay, but I would prefer the simple past here.
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If you really want to use the simple present, do you know how I'd change it?
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I would use "do" at the beginning. It's no longer unreal.
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So let's go back now, though, to the construction I gave you.
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More examples:
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If that's a real request, I'll consider it.
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That's a nice request. Right?
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You want to interrupt. You don't want to be rude about it. That's a good example.
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And I love the verb forms here.
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So we have "would" + a base verb and then here we have the simple past.
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Thank you to everyone who posted their examples.
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To summarize, I think these patterns are the ones that are most used and more commonly accepted:
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I talked with a colleague about this pattern, and we agreed it was common with verbs in the negative, negative verbs.
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Another very common pattern is to use:
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I'd really appreciate it if you WOULD / COULD and then the base verb.
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You might here people use the simple present.
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Technically, I don't think that's correct, but you'll hear it.
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And if I heard it, I'd think, "Yeah. I understand what the person wants...what they're saying. It sounds okay."
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I'd recommend the simple past. If you really want to use the simple present,
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I would suggest changing the question to: Do you mind..."
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So it's a difference between unreal and real.
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Now let’s consider the question I asked you in the previous lesson: What’s the difference between these sentences?
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There were a lot of very good explanations in the comments. Let me share just a few that I think everyone will find useful.
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Mahmoud offered his explanations, and some you might find this helpful because he uses traditional grammar terms.
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He identifies examples a, b, and c as first, second, and third conditionals.
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The past is over.
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Gabriel offers very clear explanations.
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And Francoise offers a very concise explanation.
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Let’s focus on that last example:
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Or with the full forms:
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So what's the pattern for imagining something about the past that's completely counterfactual?
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In other words, it didn't happen that way. I'm just imagining the past differently.
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We use IF + past perfect in the condition.
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And then WOULD + past participle in the result.
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My example was kind of tricky because I used a passive verb: had been invited.
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So HAD BEEN + (past participle) is a passive verb in the past perfect.
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Here’s an easier example to understand. It uses active verbs, no passives:
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Note that we could also use the modal verbs COULD and MIGHT in the result clause.
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Let’s practice together, okay?
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I'll tell you something that didn't happen, and then you tell me a conditional sentence that we can create based on this situation.
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Remember you can use COULD, MIGHT, or WOULD in the result clause.
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We’re almost done, so let’s talk about homework.
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Your first task is to report these two statements. Rewrite them so that quotation marks are not needed.
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You can write your ideas in the comments, but I won’t confirm the answers until the next lesson.
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For your bonus task, I want you to identify the time period in this sentence:
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We'll go over the answer to that bonus task in our next lesson. That’s all for now.
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I'll see you again soon for another lesson on conditionals in English. Please remember to like this video and subscribe if you haven't already.
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As always, thanks for watching and happy studies!
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