LEARN HOW TO TRAVEL THE WORLD WITH TRAVEL WRITER ROLF POTTS โœˆ ๐Ÿ“– ๐Ÿ˜ | Go Natural English

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LEARN HOW TO TRAVEL THE WORLD WITH TRAVEL WRITER ROLF POTTS โœˆ ๐Ÿ“– ๐Ÿ˜ | Go Natural English

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Hey naturals Gabby Wallace here
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ๋‚ด์ธ„๋Ÿด์Šค Gabby Wallace์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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And I am super excited to bring you a very special conversation
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ
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with one of my favorite travel writers in English Ralph Potts
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์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์—ฌํ–‰ ์ž‘๊ฐ€ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…๊ณผ ์•„์ฃผ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค Ralph Potts
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Ralph wrote a book that's been very influential in my life called
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Ralph๋Š” Vagabonding์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์— ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ฑ…์„ ์ €์ˆ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Vagabonding, and he's just published a new book called
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Souvenir so join us as we talk about our philosophy on travel
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๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ ์—ฌํ–‰ ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฒ ํ•™๊ณผ
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Language learning and where you can really see the real America and much more you're gonna love our
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์‹ค์ œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ ๋“ฑ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
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Conversation so if you are an english learner and you would like to learn more
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์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž์ด๊ณ  ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋” ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค
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english for your travels or your other english related goals in life make sure that you come visit gonaturalenglish.com
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์—ฌํ–‰ ๋˜๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์–ด ๊ด€๋ จ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” gonaturalenglish.com์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
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Where you can learn more with the go natural English method the link is in the description gonaturalenglish.com
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gonaturalenglish ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งํฌ๋Š” gonaturalenglish.com ์„ค๋ช…์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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I'll see you there now enjoy the conversation with travel author Ralph Potts
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ์—ฌํ–‰๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ธฐ์„ธ์š”. ์ €์ž Ralph Potts
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Hey, Ralph, it's so good to have you here to have a conversation with you
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์ด๋ด, Ralph, ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์˜ค๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ •๋ง ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”.
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I'm a huge fan of your work and reading your book
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์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹  ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์˜ ์—ด๋ ฌํ•œ ํŒฌ์ด๊ณ 
01:12
vagabonding years ago gave me the confidence to
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๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์— ๋ฐฉํ™ฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์Œ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Travel and explore the world independently, and I just want to bring you
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๋…๋ฆฝ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ํƒํ—˜ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
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to have a conversation and
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talk a little bit about traveling and
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์—ฌํ–‰๊ณผ
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Exploring and language learning and your new book as well
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ํƒํ—˜, ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ƒˆ ์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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I'm super excited to hear what you have been working on recently and what you're excited about so
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
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Thank you so much for joining me here. You bet I'm always love to talk about travel, so
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์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์—ฌํ–‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
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Awesome very good, so yeah your your book vagabonding kind of opened the doors to travel
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Awesome very good, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฑ… vagabonding์€ ์—ฌํ–‰์˜ ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Just changing my mindset
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๋‚ด ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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I think you know a lot of people as you know have this idea that travel is for
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌํ–‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Rich people or travel is for like when you retire
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๋ถ€์œ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์—ฌํ–‰์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์€ํ‡ดํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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Or it's not for me. It's not for the common person
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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And after reading your book it really changed my mindset. I remember. I started traveling at that time I
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์€ ํ›„ ์ œ ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ด. ๊ทธ๋•Œ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
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also teaching abroad in Japan and I know you you started out your international travels in that way as well, right I
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์ผ๋ณธ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ํ•ด์™ธ์—ฌํ–‰๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๊ฑธ๋กœ ์•„๋Š”๋ฐ
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Did yeah?
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๋งž๋‚˜์š”?
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Sort of with the idea to fund travel, but then of course as you know living overseas
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์—ฌํ–‰ ์ž๊ธˆ ๋งˆ๋ จ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ•ด์™ธ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
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You know you learn so much
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Socio-culturally you learn to sort of internalize what it's like to be in another culture, which is something you can't grasp
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์‚ฌํšŒ ๋ฌธํ™”์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ๋‚ด๋ฉดํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Intellectually oh yeah, you can read all you want about another culture
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์ง€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ค ์˜ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฝ์„ ์ˆ˜
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And you could like eat all the sushi you want
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์žˆ๊ณ  ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์Šค์‹œ๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:46
But you'll never know what it's like to be in Japan or South Korea until you're actually there, right
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ณธ์ด๋‚˜ ํ•œ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:51
Yeah, there an end to an extent making mistakes. You know and that's almost a word of encouragement
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์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ €์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฒฉ๋ ค์˜ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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English you might have who are worried about that that it's three mistakes that you learn
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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you know you don't want to intentionally offend your your host culture but
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฌธํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•˜๊ฒŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
03:06
yeah, there's there's some like you said you can read all you want about a place, but until you're there and and sort of
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์˜ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฝ์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
03:12
negotiating with the place
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๊ทธ ์žฅ์†Œ์™€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ˜‘์ƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š”
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It's a completely different experience
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:16
I absolutely love that you just said making mistakes can be a good thing because that's what I always say to
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์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ €์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:21
My language learners is that we need to make more mistakes. You know don't be afraid of that
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ํ•™์Šต์ž๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
03:27
Maybe don't make the same mistake over and over and over, but you know make it learn from it, and that's really where you grow
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๊ฐ™์€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:35
for sure yeah, and I think
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š”
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Travel or being in other cultures forces you to depend on that language a
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์—ฌํ–‰์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋ฌธํ™”๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์–ธ์–ด์— ์˜์กดํ•˜๋„๋ก ๊ฐ•์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:44
Corollary for me as Spanish I go to Latin American countries my Spanish is not that great
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด๋กœ์„œ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋ผํ‹ด ์•„๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์นด ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์— ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์˜ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์€ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข‹์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์š”์ ์„ ์ „๋‹ฌํ• 
03:49
But I'm forced to communicate it enough that I can
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์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋งŒํผ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์†Œํ†ตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:52
Get my point across. You know that I speak very poor Spanish
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. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•„์ฃผ ์„œํˆฌ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
03:56
But I get there
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
03:57
and I think it's through it's like it's not that I'm that great at Spanish still but
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ž˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
04:01
It's through speaking poorly that you that you learn to to keep improving that you
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์„œํˆฌ๋ฅธ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:07
You learn what works, and what doesn't and you begin to have a better ear for how people speak so?
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, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
04:14
Yeah, I can't say enough good things about being
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ €์ง€๋ฅผ ๋งŒํผ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข‹์€ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
04:17
fearless enough to make those mistakes
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04:20
And there and and on and on the matter of fear
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๋‘๋ ค์›€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
04:23
I think often times people there's a lot of fears at least in the United States. I know that not all of your
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:29
Your audience is based in the United States, but there's a lot of fears attached to travel
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌํ–‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
Dangers expenses
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04:39
But that I think that ties into this idea that travel is something that you buy you that you buy this
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04:45
Smooth-edged travel experience, and then you approach it as a consumer
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์˜ˆ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์—ฌํ–‰ ๊ฒฝํ—˜, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๋กœ์„œ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:49
Where as I say in vagabond and you really it's something you give to yourself. It's something. You'll allow yourself to have
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ vagabond์—์„œ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ—ˆ์šฉ
04:54
and if you can get past those initially
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
04:57
expenses if you can
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04:59
Sidestep those fears and just realize that the fears are not as realistic as you might think they are then
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๊ทธ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์„ ํ”ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ๊ทน๋ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
05:04
You could you can be in the world and and be growing and living an exciting life. Yeah, absolutely
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค,
05:11
Absolutely let me ask you a little bit about the difference between
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๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌํ–‰๊ณผ ๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์—ฌ์ญค๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„
05:16
traveling and
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05:17
Vagabonding I know you've probably explained this thousands of times, but for someone who may not be familiar with your work
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์ˆ˜์ฒœ ๋ฒˆ์€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์…จ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์ž‘์—…์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ œ
05:23
I mean, what's the difference between the two?
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๋ง์€, ๋‘˜ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ?
05:27
Well vagabond is a subset of travel
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๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์€ ์—ฌํ–‰์˜ ํ•˜์œ„ ์ง‘ํ•ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:29
Like philosophically, I think travel is something that can happen when you walk to the corner store. You know or talk to your neighbors
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. ์ฒ ํ•™์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌํ–‰์€ ๋ชจํ‰์ด ์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑธ์–ด๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์›ƒ๊ณผ ์•Œ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ
05:37
But vagabonding is is long-term travel. It's about taking time off
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ์—ฌํ–‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:40
you're away from your normal life to travel for an extended period of time so it's not just
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์žฅ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ •์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜
05:45
Taking vacation time or yeah holiday time from work to travel. It's it's actually taking time off and
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ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ด์–ด
05:53
Sort of dedicating a portion of your life to traveling long term in a slow and meaningful way
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์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜๋ฏธ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์žฅ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
and I don't think that there's a hard and fast rule for how long that is a
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—„๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ณ  ๋น ๋ฅธ ๊ทœ์น™์€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:03
Lot of people will set a year aside. That's a great
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ํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ œ์ณ๋‘๊ณ . ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ
06:06
Increment of time, but I think you can go vagabonding in six weeks
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์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ 6์ฃผ ์•ˆ์— ๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
06:09
You can go back about in for six years, so it's long-term travel in whatever
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6๋…„ ์ •๋„๋ฉด ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ
06:14
fits your
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๋ณธ์ธ์˜
06:16
Interests and capabilities, and it's it's not really a contest
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์™€ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ๋งž๋Š” ์žฅ๊ธฐ ์—ฌํ–‰์ด๊ณ  ๋Œ€ํšŒ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ ์š”.
06:20
It doesn't matter how long you travel or how many countries you visit, but it's just about how?
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋“  ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๋“  ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:25
how engaged you are and how open you are to the world and and
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ธ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
06:29
And really just being in a different mindset than you are at home
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:34
Allowing yourself to be a full-time traveler for a while
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์ž ์‹œ ๋™์•ˆ ํ’€ํƒ€์ž„ ์—ฌํ–‰์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ—ˆ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:36
I love that a lot of people assume that this is for gap year like when you graduate college
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์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ์กธ์—…ํ•  ๋•Œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐญ ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด
06:42
You take a year to travel the world, and then you need to get to work
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1๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:46
That's just what you do, but it's not just for what 22 year olds right? I mean obviously
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ 22์„ธ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์ œ ๋ง์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ
06:52
I'm not 22 you're not
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์ œ๊ฐ€ 22์‚ด์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:54
You still travel right?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์—ฌํ–‰์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:56
Yeah, and that's something that I have
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:59
Since the book has come out that the culture has shifted a bit so that it's less weird for non 22 year olds to travel
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์ฑ…์ด ๋‚˜์˜จ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์–ด์„œ 22์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋œ ์ด์ƒํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:06
sort of in that in a I
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์ €๋Š”
07:08
Did another interview recently about digital nomadism which was a term that didn't exist when I first wrote vagabonding?
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์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์œ ๋ชฉ๋ฏผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. vagabonding์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ผ์„ ๋•Œ ์—†๋˜ ์šฉ์–ด?
07:15
I think it's come since you know that like the social media world has grown
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์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์„ฑ์žฅํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
to accommodate
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07:21
being able to work from overseas so
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07:24
You know obviously there's people in their 20s 30s 40s 50s who take career breaks who take sabbaticals, but also people who?
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ 20 ๋Œ€ 30 ๋Œ€ 40 ๋Œ€ 50 ๋Œ€์— ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•ˆ์‹๋…„์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:32
Just sort of make their work portable mm-hm
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํœด๋Œ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ฃ  ์Œ-ํ 
07:36
they
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
07:37
In the winter they go to Rio or Cape Town or Hawaii, and they they work through their computer
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๊ฒจ์šธ์— ๋ฆฌ์˜ค๋‚˜ ์ผ€์ดํ”„ ํƒ€์šด ๋˜๋Š” ํ•˜์™€์ด๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ž‘์—…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:43
And they find ways to make it work and a core philosophy of Agra
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:46
By name is the idea that your time is your truest form of wealth you know that
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๋ถ€์˜ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:50
if you shift things in life and just don't
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์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ 
07:54
prioritize
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07:56
material wealth and
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๋ฌผ์งˆ์  ๋ถ€์™€
07:57
Status then you can find all kinds of time to travel and live in
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์ง€์œ„๋ฅผ ์šฐ์„ ์‹œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:01
Live a more interesting life and billionaires, who are you know burdened down by mansions and jet planes all right?
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๋” ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‚ถ๊ณผ ์–ต๋งŒ์žฅ์ž, ๋งจ์…˜๊ณผ ์ œํŠธ๊ธฐ์— ๋ถ€๋‹ด์ด ๊ฐ€์ค‘๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
08:07
I think it really is about prioritizing as far as you know affording to travel
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์—ฌํ–‰ํ•  ์—ฌ์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•„๋Š” ํ•œ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๋ฅผ ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ์„ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ
08:13
It's about prioritizing
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08:16
putting some savings toward travel as opposed to
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๋ณด๋‹ค ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ €์ถ•์„ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„์— ๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ
08:20
whatever
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08:21
Other things you could spend money on so I know a lot of people would say well sure you can afford to travel
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•  ์—ฌ์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:27
But what about the rest of us?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:28
I mean, maybe they think that someone who travels is rich
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ถ€์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:31
But maybe we've just prioritized it so do you have maybe some quick tips for people to afford travel?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์šฐ์„  ์ˆœ์œ„๋กœ ๋‘์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ํŒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:38
I know there's a lot of different ways, but maybe for someone who is just wondering how can I afford that?
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„?
08:45
Well one that is it one thing that isn't even financial is just decide that you're gonna
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์žฌ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋„ ์•„๋‹Œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:49
Do it right you can keep relegating your travels to the future, but if you say I'm gonna do it
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08:54
And I want to you know depends on your situation, but even if you don't have a lot of money
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์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š๋”๋ผ๋„
08:57
You can say in two years
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2๋…„ ์•ˆ์—
08:58
I'm gonna be on the road and then suddenly it becomes real
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์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๋– ๋‚  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:01
And then and then maybe if you if you tell some people who can keep you honest that way and then suddenly
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ •์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ
09:07
You can find all this wealth in
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์—์„œ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:10
in your day, you know I
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
09:13
I'm in New York right now for the next six weeks and sometimes I go down to get a cup of coffee
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‰ด์š•์— ๋‹ค์Œ 6์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ์ปคํ”ผ ํ•œ ์ž”์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Ÿฌ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:17
You know by the time I tip the barista. It's like $4 as well. You know
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋ฆฌ์Šคํƒ€์—๊ฒŒ ํŒ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„. $4๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
09:22
or $6 I can get ahold Cardinale coffee and drink them out of my heart bingo mug and
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๋˜๋Š” $ 6 ๋‚˜๋Š” Cardinale ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌํ•ด์„œ ๋‚ด ์‹ฌ์žฅ ๋น™๊ณ  ๋จธ๊ทธ์—์„œ ๋งˆ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
09:28
Then week by week. I've saved a lot of money, so I think that there's ways I
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๋‚˜์„œ ๋งค์ฃผ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ชจ์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
09:33
My sister cuts my hair when I'm back home in Kansas for free right so I think your daily routine
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Kansas์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง‘์— ๋Œ์•„์™”์„ ๋•Œ ๋‚ด ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ์ด ๋‚ด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ณต์งœ๋กœ ์ž˜๋ผ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:41
You mates you may end up finding ways to save $10 a day, but what happens by the end of the month
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์›”๋ง์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
09:46
Well you saved a fair amount of money. You know
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์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ธˆ์•ก์˜ ๋ˆ์„ ์ ˆ์•ฝํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
and
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
09:51
So really I think that that
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09:53
Once-once travel in your future becomes real you just you start making decisions that prioritize
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋ฟ์ธ ์—ฌํ–‰์ด ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ์šฐ์„ ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
10:00
that future experience and you realize that you're often throwing money at
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10:05
Situations at home that you don't need to and I'm consumed just by scaling back your routine you
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์ง‘์—์„œ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ข…์ข… ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ €์ถ•ํ• 
10:12
Have a lot more money to save
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๋ˆ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
10:13
Or there may be opportunities to go work abroad you know like we mentioned going to teach English abroad or maybe
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ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:20
Teaching your native language. Whatever it may be or something completely different
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. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๋˜๋Š” ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋“ 
10:23
There's a lot of jobs that you can do abroad or volunteering and really cutting costs
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ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๋งŽ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ ˆ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:29
You're in New York City, and I know you were just in Hawaii, and I know you've traveled a lot of the u.s.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‰ด์š•์‹œ์— ์žˆ๊ณ  ํ•˜์™€์ด์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜
10:36
For a foreigner who wants to travel in the u.s.. And see the real America
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ์—๊ฒŒ.. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง„์งœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ
10:42
This is kind of a fluted question
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ”Œ๋ฃจํ‹ฐ๋“œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ
10:44
but right
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์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋งž์•„์š”.
10:45
Would you tell them is New York the place to go because that's kind of where everyone thinks that they should go you know so
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‰ด์š•์ด ๊ฐ€์•ผํ•  ๊ณณ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
10:51
Let's say someone from Brazil or someone from Japan and they want to see
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์—์„œ ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜ ์ผ๋ณธ์—์„œ ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
10:56
America I mean
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10:58
What would you tell them?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
11:00
Well, I'm not gonna not New York is it's a great world city you know
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๋‰ด์š•์ด ์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋„์‹œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:03
I it's one of my favorite cities in the world actually, but really people who come to the United States
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋„์‹œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์˜ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
11:08
They go to New York
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๋‰ด์š•์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
11:10
and maybe do a side trip to DC or
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์งง์€ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค DC๋‚˜
11:13
Philadelphia or something they often go to Florida a lot of Europeans go to Florida for the sunshine
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ํ•„๋ผ๋ธํ”ผ์•„ ๋˜๋Š” ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค๋กœ ์ž์ฃผ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์ธ๋“ค์ด ํ–‡๋น›์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค๋กœ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:18
People go do a West Coast trips will they'll do la Vegas, San Francisco
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์„œํ•ด์•ˆ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ผ์Šค๋ฒ ๊ฑฐ์Šค, ์ƒŒํ”„๋ž€์‹œ์Šค์ฝ”๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:25
But
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11:27
You really sell yourself short if you're hopping from city to city, right?
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๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๋„์‹œ๋กœ, ๋งž์ฃ ?
11:31
You're only going to two places that you've heard about already. I'm a huge fan in the United States
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณธ ๋‘ ๊ณณ๋งŒ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ต‰์žฅํ•œ ํŒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:36
You have to do a road trip. It's worth. Whatever it costs to rent or buy a car and drive around and
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๋กœ๋“œํŠธ๋ฆฝ์„ ํ•˜์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž๋™์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋นŒ๋ฆฌ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ์„œ ์šด์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋“œ๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ์ด๋“ 
11:43
America has these great
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ
11:45
Interstate highways but get off the interstate highways drive on little roads go to small towns, and I'm from Kansas, which it's it's funny
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์ฃผ๊ฐ„ ๊ณ ์†๋„๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ฃผ๊ฐ„ ๊ณ ์†๋„๋กœ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜ ์ž‘์€ ๋„๋กœ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„๋กœ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์บ”์ž์Šค์—์„œ ์™”์–ด์š”.
11:52
You're you're near, Kansas. Yeah
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์บ”์ž์Šค ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ
11:55
I
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์ €๋Š”
11:57
Think in places where
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11:59
This holds true everywhere actually if you go to places that other tourists
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€๊ด‘๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:03
Don't go local people just have more time for you and more interest in you
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ํ˜„์ง€์ธ๋“ค์€ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
12:07
and so you go to the little cafe in a town of 500 people and you're Japanese or
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ 500๋ช…์˜ ๋งˆ์„์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์นดํŽ˜์— ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ผ๋ณธ์ธ,
12:14
German or Australian and suddenly you're the most interesting person in the city right yeah, and
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๋…์ผ์ธ ๋˜๋Š” ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์ธ์ด๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์•„์š”.
12:20
So I think that that's that's a way to get out of what I call in vagabonding the tourist matrix
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ด€๊ด‘ ๋งคํŠธ๋ฆญ์Šค์—์„œ ๋ฐฉํ™ฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:26
And there's nothing wrong with that, but a lot of your experiences are kind of prepared for you
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ค€๋น„๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:31
if you're seeing the sights air-quote the sights in countries whereas if you're just
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ด€๊ด‘ ๋ช…์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์˜ ๊ด€๊ด‘ ๋ช…์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ธ์šฉํ•œ ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด,
12:36
Driving around and it's just like here's a town on the map
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์šด์ „๋งŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ง€๋„์— ๋„์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:39
I'm gonna go to boring, Oregon because that's a funny sounding name, and you just go and see what's in boring, Oregon
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์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์˜ค๋ ˆ๊ณค์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”. ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ญ๊ฐ€
12:45
Taking small highways, and it's just amazing how I mean using my home state as an example
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12:51
Kansas is seen as a boring place because people take interstate 78 to get to Colorado and it gets very flat and and people get
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์ง€๋ฃจํ•œ์ง€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. 78๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ๊ฐ„ ๊ณ ์†๋„๋กœ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์ฝœ๋กœ๋ผ๋„์— ๋„์ฐฉํ•˜๋ฉด v๋ฅผ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ํ‰ํ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
12:57
Tired of driving in Kansas, it's actually. There's some. There's some beautiful parts of Kansas
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Kansas์—์„œ ์šด์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ์ง€์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Kansas์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ง€์—ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:01
Who if you get off i-70?
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i-70์—์„œ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋ฉด?
13:03
Or just interesting parts of Kansas that are that are rural and not places that you would ever see in a guidebook
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๋˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ๋ถ์—์„œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์‹œ๊ณจ์ธ ์บ”์ž์Šค์˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:10
And it is one thing to go. There's some great museums in in New York like the Museum of Natural History the Met
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. ๋‰ด์š•์—๋Š” Met ์ž์—ฐ์‚ฌ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์ด ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:16
I mean there's dozens of good museums
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์ œ ๋ง์€ ์ˆ˜์‹ญ ๊ฐœ์˜ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:19
But if you go to the little County Museum in a rural part of America you can bet that curator is gonna
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ๊ณจ ์ง€์—ญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์นด์šดํ‹ฐ ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€์— ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ํ๋ ˆ์ดํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ผ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์žฅ๋‹ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:25
You know talk your ear off. You know because the little Curie I create curator in Minneapolis, Kansas doesn't usually get
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๋„๋‹ค. ์บ”์ž์Šค์ฃผ ๋ฏธ๋‹ˆ์• ํด๋ฆฌ์Šค์—์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“  ์ž‘์€ ํ€ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
13:33
travelers from
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13:35
Korea or China or Brazil or wherever
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ํ•œ๊ตญ, ์ค‘๊ตญ, ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ๋“ฑ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์˜จ ์—ฌํ–‰์ž๋„
13:38
And they can take an interest in you in a way that
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๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:42
the curator at a big
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13:44
Metropolitan Museum can't talk yeah, and so I could preach about this forever, but
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜์›ํžˆ ์„ค๊ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
13:50
I was just gonna add you know if you go
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง๋ถ™์ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜
13:53
Sue let's say I'm Brazilian and I go to New York
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์ธ์ด๊ณ  ๋‰ด์š•์— ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค
13:55
It's very easy to find other Brazilians, and you kind of naturally gravitate toward people from your country
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. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ์ธ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹  ๋‚˜๋ผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
14:02
I mean it happens to Americans it happens to everyone and so it's too easy
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:05
To just fall in with that crowd and speak your native language and not really have
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๊ทธ ๊ตฐ์ค‘ ์†์— ๋น ์ ธ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
14:10
An American experience whatever that may be so I'm a fan of telling people yeah, go to, Kansas
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ ๊ฐ„์— ์ €๋Š” ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ํŒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์˜ˆ, ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”, Kansas
14:16
It's boring and that's what you want like that's exactly what you want to experience
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์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:21
Yeah, there's an old onion headline that says semester abroad spent
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์˜ˆ, ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ํ•œ ํ•™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์–‘ํŒŒ ํ—ค๋“œ๋ผ์ธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:26
Hanging out with other Americans in Barcelona right you know
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14:33
You might think of those as training wheels experience
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ํ›ˆ๋ จ์†Œ ng ๋ฐ”ํ€ด ๊ฒฝํ—˜
14:36
And I'm by training wheels I mean when you're a child you have training wheels on your bicycle
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋ณด์กฐ ๋ฐ”ํ€ด๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ง์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์ž์ „๊ฑฐ์— ๋ณด์กฐ ๋ฐ”ํ€ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:39
And then once you learn to ride the bicycle you don't have to have the training wheels anymore
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋‹จ ์ž์ „๊ฑฐ ํƒ€๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ฉด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋ณด์กฐ ๋ฐ”ํ€ด๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:43
and
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14:44
Sure start in New York hang out with some Brazilians
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์š”ํฌ๋Š” ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
14:48
but then
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๋‹ค์Œ
14:50
Then you have to sort of jump into that
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14:52
Vulnerability into that fear zone where you're not gonna fall back you. There's no Portuguese to speak
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋’ค๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ์„œ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ณตํฌ์˜ ์˜์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ทจ์•ฝ์  ์†์œผ๋กœ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:58
Outside of these big cities with with immigrant populations, and so you just go and and you start engaging with people and you
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์ด๋ฏผ์ž ์ธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ๋Œ€๋„์‹œ ์™ธ์—๋Š” ๋งํ•  ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ต๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
15:05
Americans love a smile. It's funny. We smile a lot. It's kind of
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›ƒ๊ธฐ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์ด ์›ƒ๋Š”๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์˜ˆ
15:11
Yeah, and and we sort of we recognize
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, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ธ์‹ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:14
You know even the air quotes weirdest foreigner if they have a big smile
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํฐ ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ง€์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ์„ ์ธ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
15:18
And they're friendly and they're trying to speak people will will be charmed, and they'll they'll help you out
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์นœ์ ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ง์„ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งค๋ฃŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:22
Even if your English is it perfect. Yeah absolutely so that kind of leads me to another question
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋„์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š”
15:27
I wanted to ask you about how to connect with local peep because I think especially in the last few years
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋กœ์ปฌ ์—ฟ๋ณด๊ธฐ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌป๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:33
Everyone is you know looking down at their phone
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋‹ค๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:35
And it I feel like it's a little harder to talk to strangers because a lot of people on the train or in the coffee
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ํž˜๋“  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๋‚˜ ์ปคํ”ผ์ˆ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„
15:41
Shop, or. You know public places where you might meet people are?
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๊ฑฐ๋‚˜. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ณต ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
15:46
Looking at social media, and I love social media
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์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ
15:48
There's a lot of a lot of benefits to using it also to connect to people but I mean how do you?
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ์—๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์ ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
15:55
Connect with people in real life these days
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์š”์ฆ˜ ์‹ค์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
15:59
That's a good question
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์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:00
And that's that's something else that has really shifted since I started traveling and I give some advice in vagabonding like
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ์ •๋ง ๋ณ€ํ™”๋œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:08
Find a sports game. You know
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16:12
Talk and I I'm talking to American travelers usually so I say find some kids who are staying English?
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Talk and I ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ณดํ†ต ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ์—ฌํ–‰์ž์™€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
16:17
And and you know throw out some phrases at them
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:20
Just actually ask a dumb question
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
16:22
You know oftentimes if you're an outsider you have an advantage over a local person because you can just say hey
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์™ธ๋ถ€์ธ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ข…์ข… ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:27
I'm from Argentina, and I'm hungry and it was a place to eat
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16:31
you know and
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16:32
People people love to share that information that not everybody some people especially in big cities like New York are gonna be in a hurry
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํŠนํžˆ ๋‰ด์š•๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Œ€๋„์‹œ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋‘๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:40
Oftentimes you can sort of use your foreignness as a pretext to talk to people and
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
16:45
No, there's not never a bad dumb question. You know dumb questions are always good because
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์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค, ๋‚˜์œ ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ข‹์€ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
16:53
Yeah, I think most people like to help other people who are new to a place for the first time now there are
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋•๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ
17:00
Social media options for meeting people - there's like um there's meetup groups. There's a
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ์˜ต์…˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ์ž„ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—
17:06
couchsurfing
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์นด์šฐ์น˜์„œํ•‘์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
17:08
there's
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17:09
You know social apps you know you can you can get on. I mean there's dating apps
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์†Œ์…œ ์•ฑ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ง์€ ๋ฐ์ดํŠธ ์•ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋”
17:17
Sometimes this may be the wrong impression if you're just gonna randomly want to randomly meet people
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๋ฌด์ž‘์œ„๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์ธ์ƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:22
But there's there's equivalents of that
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17:25
I mean you can even get on
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17:26
Your facebook or twitter feed and say hey does anybody have any friends in Boston. You know ray I?
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๋ณด์Šคํ„ด์—์„œ. ๋ ˆ์ด I ์•Œ์ง€? ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ
17:33
would I
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17:34
Would encourage everybody not to be too dependent on that you know cuz you can meet a lot of people just by reaching out through
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ํ†ตํ•ด ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์•ฑ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜์กดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ถŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:40
Social media and using various apps, but just there's something about the I'm hungry
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17:46
Where as a place to eat or that looks like a fun soccer game? Do you need a goalkeeper you know?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณจํ‚คํผ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:52
those simple person-to-person
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๊ทธ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ผ๋Œ€์ผ
17:54
Interactions are special. Yeah, so don't be afraid to ask a silly question
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์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉ์€ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
17:58
I also found that nowadays a lot of people
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์š”์ฆ˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
18:03
go through social media to meet people in person for example I
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ง์ ‘ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:08
joined a rock climbing gym in Kansas City to make some new friends because I'm kind of new here and
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ
18:14
there's a Facebook group associated with rock climbing in Kansas City and
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์บ”์ž์Šค ์‹œํ‹ฐ์— ์•”๋ฒฝ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ Facebook ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
18:20
People post there if they want climbing partners
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๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:24
But you could just walk up to someone in the gym and say hey do you want to be my climbing partner?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€๊ฐ€์„œ "๋‚ด ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ˆ? "๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:28
But people don't do that as much it's like you're supposed to ask
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:32
Through the social media first and then meet in real life
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๋จผ์ € ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณธ ๋‹ค์Œ ์‹ค์ œ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
18:36
So I feel like some social dynamics are changing not that you can't just walk up to people and ask
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๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:41
But I think it's worth a look you know search for if there's groups of interest or locations
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด๋‚˜ ์œ„์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•ด ๋ณผ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:48
You know that you can kind of link up with people first, and you know you'll hit the ground running
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๋จผ์ € ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:54
Yeah, well again. It's there's no dumb questions. You know the worst thing a person could say is no or I already have one
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. ๋„ค, ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์š”. ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์•…์˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค ๋˜๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:59
Right and and even sometimes people are sort of attracted
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๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋งค๋ ฅ์„
19:03
I think people use the social media route because they think that's what the rules are right
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๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทœ์น™์ด ์˜ณ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ๊ฒฝ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ
19:08
I think once you have somebody with a big smile who's asking dumb questions
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ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
19:12
And inviting people to be their climbing partner or whatever the equivalent of that is in a different situation
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋™๋“ฑํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ํฐ ๋ฏธ์†Œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
19:17
Then they relax a little bit
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๋‹ค์Œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๊ธด์žฅ์„ ํ’€๊ณ 
19:19
And they're open to it and again some people might not be interested in that but some people will
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
19:23
And even if you don't get a climbing partner then you'll you'll sort of have
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๋“ฑ๋ฐ˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋”๋ผ๋„
19:27
Somebody that you recognize and somebody who will look at you and think oh
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ์•„๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์˜ค๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ• 
19:31
There's that friendly person who smiles a lot and asks me that dumb question. I'm gonna go talk to them so
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ
19:37
It's just like building those social networks in real life. Which is an under
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์‹ค์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ์†Œ์…œ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:42
Practiced thing these days well. It's the most meaningful part of travel
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์š”์ฆ˜ ์ž˜ ์‹คํ–‰๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌํ–‰์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜๋ฏธ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ธ ๊ฒƒ
19:46
I think I mean I I love going to see museums and monuments and all that and taking pretty pictures
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๊ฐ™์•„์š” ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€, ๊ธฐ๋…๋ฌผ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์œ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
19:53
But what I really remember is the people that I get to talk to in the conversations?
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19:59
And I think you're missing a lot, I mean I'm preaching to the choir here, but
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งŽ์ด ๋†“์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ œ ๋ง์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ค๊ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
20:03
You're missing a lot of you
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:05
Don't go out of your way and ask some silly questions and start some conversations, right
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๊ธธ์„ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜์„œ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
20:10
Yeah, for sure for sure and it's a good like I'm an introvert by nature, and so travel forces me to talk to people
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, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด์„ฑ์  ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•„์„œ ์—ฌํ–‰์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ธธ์„ ์žƒ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์™ธ๋กญ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋„๋ก ๊ฐ•์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:17
sometimes just because I'm
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20:19
lost or bored or lonely you know but
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20:23
But yeah, I know he gets me out of my shell and forces me to be social in a way
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊บผ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๊ป๋ฐ๊ธฐ์˜ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌํšŒ์ ์ด๋˜๋„๋ก ๊ฐ•์š”
20:27
That's really good for me. I think so you travel to
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋น„์˜์–ด๊ถŒ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:31
Non-english speaking places how important is it to learn the language before you go?
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๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
20:36
as
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20:38
a courtesy learning phrases of the language is useful
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์˜์ƒ ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์œ ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌธ์ž
20:42
You can literally go to places and know nothing of language and do fine
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๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์ž˜ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:46
Is that because people speak English generally or mm-hmm okay?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์Œ-ํ  ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
20:51
Yeah
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๋„ค,
20:52
I mean we're privileged as Americans or those of us in the Anglosphere
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์ œ ๋ง์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด๋‚˜ ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ํŠน๊ถŒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:55
Having it as a first language is really useful because it's the world's second language right now
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์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ œ1์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์œ ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ์ œ2์–ธ์–ด์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:00
and so
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21:03
But you know almost anywhere you go. There's so many people traveling with no phrases beyond hello, and thank you
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋””๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋“  ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋‹ค ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์™ธ์—๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด ๋ง๋„ ์—†์ด ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:09
That if you commit yourself to learning
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21:13
50 words of Thai you know more
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ํƒœ๊ตญ์–ด 50๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ „๋…ํ•˜๋ฉด
21:17
10 phrases in Portuguese or whatever then suddenly people are gonna. Help you with English
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ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด๋กœ 10๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๊ตฌ๋ฌธ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๊ด€์—†์ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ์ง€๋งŒ
21:23
Regardless, but if you sort of demonstrate that you can say you know. Where is the bathroom in a really horrible?
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, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋ฉด. ์ •๋ง ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๊ณณ์˜ ํ™”์žฅ์‹ค์€ ์–ด๋””์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
21:30
accent then you'll say it in this sort of adorably five-year-old way and
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋‹ค์„ฏ ์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:36
And it'll charm people
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งค๋ฃŒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:37
I mean this place is like France for example where I teach a class a writing class every summer
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์ œ ๋ง์€ ์ด๊ณณ์ด ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์™€ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งค๋…„ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ž‘๋ฌธ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:41
And I always tell my students to learn the pleasantries because France is a more formal culture. There's this
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ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค๋Š” ๋” ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๋ฌธํ™”์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์œ ์พŒํ•จ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
21:48
Reputation that French people have for being rude, but it's actually the opposite the Americans are the rude ones. They're too informal
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ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ํ‰ํŒ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ •๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋น„๊ณต์‹์ ์ด์•ผ
21:53
They're not saying hello to the proprietors. They're not
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์†Œ์œ ์ฃผ์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
21:57
Giving the proper greetings, and so you you master those
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์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
22:02
10 to 20 phrases of French that can establish you as a polite
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ณต์†ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” 10~20๊ฐœ์˜ ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์Šคํ„ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:05
You know you just say really horrible bones, ooh
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๋ผˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ์˜
22:08
Masu and they will one know that you're trying to be polite and know to know that you're horrible at French
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๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด์— ์„œํˆด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ 
22:14
And and they'll help you out you know that you basically
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
22:16
Established your goodwill and so language works at several levels, and one is direct communication
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ํ˜ธ์˜๋ฅผ ์Œ“์•˜๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ์ž‘๋™ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€ ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ ์˜์‚ฌ
22:21
But also is just an expression that you're not a privileged
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์†Œํ†ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:25
American who is just swaggering through on the fact that people should speak English, but that you're making an effort
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์œผ์Šค๋Œ€๋Š” ํŠน๊ถŒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„์š”.
22:32
Yeah, I find that a lot of my English learners really want to have perfect English they want to have excellent
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:39
Fluency before they ever travel outside their countries and that's admirable
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์ „์˜ ์œ ์ฐฝํ•จ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:44
But then like you're waiting for this moment that never comes because first of all what is perfect fluency
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์œ ์ฐฝํ•จ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„
22:50
I mean native English speakers don't have perfect fluency
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์˜์–ด ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์œ ์ฐฝ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:53
so I guess I'm just kind of making an observation that I
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์นœ์ ˆํ•œ ๋‚˜๋Š”
22:57
Try to encourage people to just take what you have and go with it, and you know you'll learn as you go, right
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:03
Yeah for sure and and again be fearless be willing to make mistakes
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์˜ˆ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋‘๋ ค์›€ ์—†์ด ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•  ์šฉ์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
23:08
And even you get a lot of interesting perspective on your own language as you make mistakes another one right?
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์‹ค์ˆ˜ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ด€์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
23:15
And I don't think anybody should wait until they get perfect right you know I taught English
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋Š ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•ด์งˆ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ค์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š”
23:20
conversation English in in Korea for a while and
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ์˜์–ด ํšŒํ™” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค๊ณ 
23:24
One thing I learned is that?
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์šด ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
23:26
You know the the Yuliya in Korean the the letter is that contains L. And R, and and we just use our mouth differently
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ง๋กœ ์œจ๋ฆฌ์•ผ๋Š” L์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธ€์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  R, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž…์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:35
When we say an L our tongue goes up and when we say an R
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23:38
It sort of curls back
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23:39
And so just knowing and I'm just using it like
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:42
This is a Korean traveler knowing that sometimes you're messing up your ELLs
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ELL๊ณผ R์„ ์—‰๋ง์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ ์—ฌํ–‰์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:46
And your R's you just sort of knowing that that's you're getting your tongue in shape. You know you're doing your exercises
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์šด๋™์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ 
23:51
Thinking about that. You know how did your students say your name?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ๋ €๋Š”์ง€ ์•„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
23:55
I mean your name is like ours and ELLs and you know it must have been difficult anyway
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€ ๋„ค ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ž‘ ELL์ด๋ž‘ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด์ฐจํ”ผ ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์ž–์•„
24:01
Yeah in Korean literally if you use the Hangul letters it slow to cool
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๊ทธ๋ž˜ ํ•œ๊ตญ์–ด๋กœ ๋ฌธ์ž ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•œ๊ธ€ ์“ฐ๋ฉด ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ์‹๋Š”๋‹ค
24:06
What that's a great? That's a great example? You know I could start the lesson with my name
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ด? ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์ฃ ? ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ์ด๋ฆ„์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์ž–์•„.
24:11
And and and again, I don't think there's a need to be self-conscious
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ž์˜์‹์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
24:16
for example if you're Korean because that's just something your your your your mouth is used to forming Korean word but
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24:23
So what I'm saying basically whatever language you speak
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋“ 
24:26
You know French people drop the H on all their words whereas we pronounce the H
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ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹จ์–ด์— H๋ฅผ ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” H๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ์Œ
24:31
Just just be aware as you're making mistakes
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24:33
Be aware that that's happening
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ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์˜๊ด‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์—ด์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ
24:35
And then you can sort of exercise your mouth muscles and and sort of have an intelligent approach to your mistakes as you
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์ž… ๊ทผ์œก๊ณผ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ง€๋Šฅ์ ์ธ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ €์ง€๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:41
as you gloriously and enthusiastically
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24:46
Make mistakes in another language. I love that. I love that. Yeah mistakes are the starting point of learning
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋Š” ๋ฐฐ์›€์˜ ์ถœ๋ฐœ์ ์ด๋‹ค
24:54
So I want to ask you. What are you doing in New York and what's going on with your new book with souvenir?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฌป๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค. ๋‰ด์š•์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ƒˆ ์ฑ…์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
25:00
Tell us a little bit about that and when is it coming out exactly and yeah tell us
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์–ธ์ œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”
25:06
Well, I'm in New York because I New York is one of my favorite cities um
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์Œ, ์ €๋Š” ๋‰ด์š•์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋„์‹œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‰ด์š•์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์Œ
25:10
I have a lot of colleagues and a lot of friends here
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋งŽ์€ ๋™๋ฃŒ์™€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
25:13
and
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25:14
So I try to spend as much time in New York as I can I have a friend who's out of the country
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ๋‰ด์š•์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ํ•ด์™ธ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
25:18
So I'm staying in his apartment for a while
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ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ์˜ ์•„ํŒŒํŠธ์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
25:20
and it just gives me a chance to see old friends to meet to meet editors and
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์˜ค๋žœ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํŽธ์ง‘์ž๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
25:25
and colleagues
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค
25:27
and just enjoy the metropolis for a while because
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๊ณผ
25:32
In Kansas where I'm often based. I think the closest town has like 300 people or something so
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์ €๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์บ”์ž์Šค์— ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ž ์‹œ ๋™์•ˆ ๋Œ€๋„์‹œ๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๋งˆ์„์— 300๋ช… ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ
25:38
When you have 3 million people in a single borough?
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ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ž์น˜๊ตฌ์— 300๋งŒ ๋ช…์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด?
25:41
It's just nice to be in a dynamic dynamic city and I do this a lot you know um
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์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ๋„์‹œ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ
25:45
I'll have a little sojourn in New York, or I'll spend a few months in the winter in
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๋‰ด์š•์—์„œ ์ž ์‹œ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฒจ์šธ์—
25:50
southern Africa or Argentina or something again
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๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๋‚˜ ์•„๋ฅดํ—จํ‹ฐ๋‚˜ ๋“ฑ์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:53
It's that sort of that digital nomad
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25:55
Principle that I'm not spending anymore that much more money than I would be spending in the United States
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ๋…ธ๋งˆ๋“œ ์›์น™์ด์ง€๋งŒ
25:59
But I'm spending it in a unique place, so that's what that explains my time in New York
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์ €๋Š” ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‰ด์š•์—์„œ์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:03
I just haven't a nice opportunity to house it for a friend and
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆ˜์šฉํ•  ์ข‹์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ 
26:07
I'm enjoying this this wonderful city
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋„์‹œ๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:11
As for the book it comes out. I'm not sure when this interview will air, but it comes out the second week of March
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. ์ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์ œ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ 3์›” ๋‘˜์งธ์ฃผ์— ๋‚˜์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:18
The same time yeah, okay, yeah, this is my book debut interview so alright. It's called souvenir, and it's it's um
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. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ
26:25
You know vagabonding is a very broad travel philosophy with a lot of advice whereas souvenir is
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๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์€ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ด‘๋ฒ”์œ„ํ•œ ์—ฌํ–‰ ์ฒ ํ•™์ธ ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์€
26:32
Literally about souvenirs. It's sort of a deep dive into ooh this phenomenon sort of the
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๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
26:38
Historical and psychological phenomenon of why we collect these things as we travel and as I wrote the book
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์„ ์“ฐ๋ฉด์„œ ์™œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜์ง‘ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ํ˜„์ƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด ํ˜„์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊นŠ์ด ํŒŒ๊ณ ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:44
It was really interesting because I think there's something very
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Connected to our core sense of self about connected collecting souvenirs because we're traveling through countries where we can't stay very long
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๋จธ๋ฌผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค์„ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ ์ˆ˜์ง‘๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
26:55
We don't belong to these countries, so we take a little piece. You know we take a little either
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27:00
we pick up a rock or off the ground or we save the bottle of soju that we drank at that wonderful party or
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๋Œ์„ ์ฃผ์šฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋•…์—์„œ ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์—์„œ ๋งˆ์‹  ์†Œ์ฃผ ํ•œ ๋ณ‘์„ ์•„๋ผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
27:06
we go to a gift shop, and we buy a little Eiffel Tower keychain or a
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์„ ๋ฌผ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ž‘์€ ์—ํŽ ํƒ‘ ์—ด์‡ ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜
27:11
t-shirt that says Rio de Janeiro and
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ํ‹ฐ์…”์ธ ๋ฅผ ์‚ฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋ฐ์ž๋„ค์ด๋ฃจ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ ํžŒ ์…”์ธ ๋Š”
27:14
These become parts of our lives
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:16
And they become little symbols of our memories and our ways of being in the world and so by the time
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต๊ณผ ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์˜ ์ž‘์€ ์ƒ์ง•์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:22
I was done writing the book. I realized that souvenirs are end up whether we intend to are not becoming deeply meaningful
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27:30
Symbols and metaphors for how we interact with the world
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์„ธ์ƒ๊ณผ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ์ง•๊ณผ ์€์œ ,
27:33
And how we collect them changes over time and so it's really interesting so again. It's it's not like a sequel to vagabonding
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆ˜์ง‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์˜ ์†ํŽธ ๊ฐ™์€๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ 
27:40
It's not a direct
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์ง์ ‘์ ์ธ
27:43
Book of travel advice, but it's a deep meditation and I think
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์—ฌํ–‰์กฐ์–ธ์ง‘์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊นŠ์€ ๋ช…์ƒ๊ณผ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค
27:48
One that is a lot of fun and worth considering how?
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์ •๋„๋กœ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณผ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” 1๊ถŒ์€ ์–ด๋– ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
27:53
Some of the most interesting stories we tell about our lives. We don't tell with our mouths
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž…์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
27:59
Objects that we surround ourselves when me when we come home
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์ง‘์— ์˜ฌ ๋•Œ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๊ฑด
28:04
Yeah, so I have a launch party here on March 26th at quinny's in New York. Yeah, and
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 3์›” 26์ผ ๋‰ด์š•์˜ ํ€ด๋‹ˆ์—์„œ ๋Ÿฐ์นญ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค,
28:12
Don't have a big book to her plan, but I'm really proud of the book and happy to have it out in the world
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ณ„ํš์— ํฐ ์ฑ…์€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ฑ…์ด ์ •๋ง ์ž๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:17
That's exciting. Do you personally buy a lot of souvenirs?
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. ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
28:22
Well, that's something I had to consider when I was writing the book because I felt like I didn't and there's a lot of
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์„ ์“ธ ๋•Œ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:29
You know different iterations of souvenirs because there's like heirlooms and mementos and
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28:35
keepsakes and
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28:37
Other things that are like souvenirs without quite being souvenirs
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28:40
You know like I have I have Mardi Gras beads from from 2005 which was like the last Mardi Gras before Hurricane Katrina
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ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ธ ์นดํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ์ด์ „์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋งˆ๋”” ๊ทธ๋ผ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ 2005๋…„์˜ ๋งˆ๋”” ๊ทธ๋ผ ๊ตฌ์Šฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:48
And I didn't really think of it as a souvenir, but now it's this little symbol of this interesting time in my life
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ด ์ž‘์€ ์ƒ์ง•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ถ
28:53
and I have a my
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๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋Š”
28:55
Grandfather's Zippo lighter, and I never knew him he died long before I was born and so this is this little symbol of
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ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ์ง€ํฌ ๋ผ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ „์— ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
29:01
You know my family history
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚ด ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ด๋Š” ์ด ์ž‘์€ ์ƒ์ง•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:04
And that that's mixed in with like these
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29:06
Masks I read about this in the book that these masks that I bought as I was traveling through Asia
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์•„์‹œ์•„๋ฅผ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•œ ์ด ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋“ค
29:10
And the more I bought the masks the more I realized that I wasn't really sure why I was buying the masks
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ฉด ๋จน์„์ˆ˜๋ก ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™œ ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ณ 
29:15
and so I talk about that in the book about how our taste in souvenirs change, and I think
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ทจํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฑ…์—์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ s ๋ณ€ํ™”, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—
29:21
And this is actually borne out by researchers is that new travelers buy more souvenirs than experienced travelers
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์ž๋“ค์— ์˜ํ•ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž…์ฆ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์—ฌํ–‰์ž๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ—˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฌํ–‰์ž๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š”
29:28
Whereas
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด,
29:30
Experienced travelers are more likely
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๊ฒฝํ—˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฌํ–‰์ž๋Š”
29:32
Statistically to take those pieces of the rock souvenirs that to pick up to keep a ticket stub
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ํ†ต๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ‹ฐ์ผ“ ๋ฐ˜์žฅ์„ ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ง‘
29:37
or take a seashell or or to keep that t-shirt they wore when they were you know in the Samba parade or whatever and
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๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์กฐ๊ฐœ๊ป๋ฐ๊ธฐ ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ผ๋ฐ” ํผ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ž…์—ˆ๋˜ ํ‹ฐ์…”์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ 
29:46
So I have this mix I have in my house gift shop souvenirs. I have little soaps from hotels
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋ฏน์Šค๋ฅผ ์ง‘ ์„ ๋ฌผ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์— ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์˜€๋˜ ํ˜ธํ…”์˜ ์ž‘์€ ๋น„๋ˆ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
29:53
That were part of a meaningful trip. I have my Kansas City Royals baseball
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29:58
Souvenirs. They're more like keepsakes
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๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์— ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:01
But again they have a also this story, yeah
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ,
30:04
It's sentimental stuff. It's absolutely not necessarily expensive like the things you just listed are pretty much free
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๊ฐ์ƒ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋‚˜์—ดํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ณต์งœ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๋น„์‹ธ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
30:11
But it has some sentiments, but I'm just imagining your house is covered in
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง‘์ด
30:17
Souvenirs and sentimental items and do you feel like when you go home?
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๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๊ฐ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ์•„์ดํ…œ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฎ์—ฌ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง‘์— ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
30:20
Do you I mean you have your home as kind of a place where you?
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ง‘์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
30:24
Obviously where you rest and you?
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์‰ฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜ˆ,
30:27
you can just yeah do laundry repack, but like is that also where you kind of collect all these things as a
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์„ธํƒ๋ฌผ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํฌ์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌํ–‰์˜ ์ถ”์–ต์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆ˜์ง‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:34
memory of your travels
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30:35
Yeah, and I don't want to overemphasize
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์˜ˆ, ๋‚˜๋Š”
30:39
like
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30:40
Souvenirs themselves because my souvenirs are mixed in with books and and and furniture
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๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…๊ณผ ์„ž์—ฌ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ ์ž์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ง€๋‚˜์น˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๊ตฌ
30:44
and I'm like I said keepsakes and kitchen utensils and stuff and
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ, ์ฃผ๋ฐฉ ์šฉํ’ˆ ๋ฐ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด
30:48
So it's not like you walk into my house, and you see 500 souvenirs dominating the landscape
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ๋“ค์–ด ์™€์„œ ํ’๊ฒฝ์„ ์ง€๋ฐฐํ•˜๋Š” 500 ๊ฐœ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:54
But I mean you use souvenirs to remember your travels in the same way you use keepsakes to remember family members or friends or something?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋“ฑ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ?
31:02
and so
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
31:03
Absolutely actually I have a big bookcase my office has is just a whole wall as books because I when I got my house
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ œ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํฐ ์ฑ…์žฅ์€ ๋ฒฝ ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์œผ๋กœ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:10
In Kansas after years of travel, I wanted to have a wall of books and so
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์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„์˜ ์—ฌํ–‰ ๋์— ์บ”์ž์Šค์— ์ง‘์„ ์–ป์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ฑ…์œผ๋กœ ๋ฒฝ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:15
Those are interesting evidence relationship with them because some of them I read and some of them
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฆ๊ฑฐ ๊ด€๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฝ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š”
31:19
I haven't and now I have too many books
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์ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ฑ…์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ
31:21
They don't even fit on the Shelf anymore
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ์„ ๋ฐ˜์— ๋งž์ง€๋„ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:23
And so it's like these objects are sort of in
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conversation with each other
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31:26
With each other and it's sort of this shorthand that only I can understand like a guest can come in and say well this is
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์†๋‹˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‚˜๋งŒ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์†๊ธฐ๋Š” ์†๋‹˜์ด ์™€์„œ ์ž˜ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:32
An interesting mask where is it from or why is there a boat propeller hanging on your wall?
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ๋˜๋Š” ์™œ ๋ณดํŠธ ํ”„๋กœํŽ ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒฝ์— ๊ฑธ๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
31:36
Or what's this picture right?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ๋งž๋‚˜์š”?
31:38
and so I intuitively
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31:39
know all these things though that boat propeller is when I went down the mekong in Laos, and and this mask is is a
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๋ผ์˜ค์Šค์—์„œ ๋ฉ”์ฝฉ ๊ฐ•์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ ์ € ๋ณดํŠธ ํ”„๋กœํŽ ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด์„œ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:45
You know a dance mask from Korea
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31:47
And I got it at the market at this specific market and and so it's interesting
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ํฅ๋ฏธ ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:50
I think one take home if you read my book is that suddenly you'll realize how?
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์ œ ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์œผ๋ฉด ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:56
Without even realizing it your youth most of us surround ourselves with these objects that remind us of the mean of life
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๊นจ๋‹ซ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์‚ถ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:04
And I think a lot of people like I didn't really consider myself a big souvenir collector before I wrote the book
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์ฑ…์„ ์“ฐ๊ธฐ ์ „์—๋Š” ์ €์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ ์ˆ˜์ง‘๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:09
But as I wrote the book. I realized that in a very subtle way
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธ€์„ ์“ฐ๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ ์ฑ…. ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ
32:12
I have always used souvenirs and objects to sort of ground myself in in a kind of sense of self so
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ž๊ธฐ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
32:20
It was it was a fun book to write. Yeah. I can't wait to read it
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์“ฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฑ…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ฝ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”.
32:24
I am super excited for that book to come out
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๊ทธ ์ฑ…์ด ๋‚˜์˜จ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
32:26
And it sounds like there's a lot of yeah a lot of deepness in there. I'm excited
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32:32
March 8th
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32:35
Awesome well where can people find it in bookstores on Amazon or on your website or?
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๊ต‰์žฅํ•˜๋„ค์š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋งˆ์กด์˜ ์„œ์ ์ด๋‚˜ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—์„œ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
32:40
They can find it on my website which is Rolf Potts calm
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Rolf Potts calm Or์ธ ๋‚ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—์„œ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
32:44
Or. Just you know Rolf Potts souvenir you can go to Amazon or other online retailers
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. Rolf Potts ๊ธฐ๋…ํ’ˆ์€ Amazon์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์†Œ๋งค์ ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:50
Big book stores will probably have it it's part of the object lesson series not all bookstores carry the object lesson series
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ํฐ ์„œ์ ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์‹ค๋ฌผ ๊ฐ•์˜ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์„œ์ ์ด ์‹ค๋ฌผ ๊ฐ•์˜ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์ทจ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:57
You can order it through any bookstore, but probably the most dependable
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33:01
You know not to shill Amazon too much, but I live in the middle of nowhere
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ์กด์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ์‹ค๋ก€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๋ฐ๋„ ์‚ด๊ณ 
33:04
and there's no bookstores, so I end up getting a lot of books and
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์„œ์ ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋งŽ์€ ์ฑ…์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:09
So that's a that's a dependable way to get the book. It's just to order it online
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์–ป๋Š” ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„
33:14
Perfect and if people want to find out more about you. Where should they go
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€
33:19
They can start at Rolf Potts calm. That's a collection
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ Rolf Potts ์นจ์ฐฉ์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด Vagabonding์„
33:22
they can read a ton of my travel writing for free before they ever decide if they want to buy a
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์‚ฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€
33:26
Vagabonding or Marco Polo didn't go there one of my other books. Yeah, so links to my social media
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๋˜๋Š” Marco Polo๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฑ… ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚ด ์—ฌํ–‰ ๊ธ€์„ ์ฝ์„ ์ˆ˜์žˆ๋Š” ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งํฌ
33:31
You know at Rolf COTS at instagram at Rolf Potts at Twitter. I'm not really super prolific on either
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ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ์˜ Rolf Potts ์ธ์Šค ํƒ€ ๊ทธ๋žจ์˜ Rolf COTS์—์„œ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์—„์ฒญ ๋‹ค์ž‘์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ํŽธ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”
33:38
There's a lot of Hawaii pictures up on Instagram right now
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์ธ์Šคํƒ€๊ทธ๋žจ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ•˜์™€์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์˜ฌ๋ผ์™€์š”
33:41
Yeah, and then then there's a contact form there
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๋„ค ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”
33:44
And I always try my best to answer emails of you know for people who send me earnest
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ง„์ง€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•ด ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ 
33:50
enquiries and and greetings
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ง
33:53
So that's the starting point Rolf pass calm perfect well
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์ž‘์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Rolf๋Š” ์นจ์ฐฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ†ต๊ณผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:56
I'm so glad you responded to my message and that we could have this conversation. Thank you so much off you bet happy travels
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์ œ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์— ์‘๋‹ตํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๋‚ด๊ธฐ์— ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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