English Listening Lesson: ENVIRONMENT

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ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

00:00
(upbeat music)
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00:07
- Okay, listen with me, listen together,
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- ใ•ใ‚ใ€็งใจไธ€็ท’ใซ่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ไธ€็ท’ใซ่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
00:10
let's do the listening together.
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ไธ€็ท’ใซ่ดใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
00:12
We are gonna have a look at two people.
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2ไบบใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
00:15
Jack and Sarah are talking about
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ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใจใ‚ตใƒฉใฏๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™
00:18
renewable energy.
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00:21
Okay, the question is, as you listen, the question is,
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ใ•ใฆใ€่ณชๅ•ใงใ™ใŒใ€ ่žใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ€
00:26
how many energy sources do they mention?
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ„ใใคใฎใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผๆบใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
00:29
So listen carefully and try and count.
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ใ‚ˆใ่žใ„ใฆๆ•ฐใˆใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
00:33
Now, I've deliberately made this listening very difficult.
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ใ•ใฆใ€็งใฏๆ„ๅ›ณ็š„ใซ ใ“ใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’้žๅธธใซ้›ฃใ—ใใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:39
So Jack and Sarah are inside a
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ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใจใ‚ตใƒฉใฏ
00:43
cafe, bar, cafeteria, coffee bar, cafe.
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ใ‚ซใƒ•ใ‚งใ€ใƒใƒผใ€ใ‚ซใƒ•ใ‚งใƒ†ใƒชใ‚ขใ€ใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใƒใƒผใ€ใ‚ซใƒ•ใ‚งใฎไธญใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:49
I got confused.
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ๆททไนฑใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:50
French and English Cafe coffee bar,
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ใƒ•ใƒฉใƒณใ‚น่ชžใจ่‹ฑ่ชžใฎใ‚ซใƒ•ใ‚งใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใƒใƒผใช
00:53
and they are, so, there's lots of background noise.
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ใฎใงใ€ ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚ฐใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒณใƒ‰ใƒŽใ‚คใ‚บใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
00:56
And I kept it in
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00:57
because I think it's a good idea to practice listening
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01:03
to real situations like in a coffee bar
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01:06
where you've got people talking next to you
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้šฃใงไบบใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ€
01:09
and you kind of, you can't hear perfectly.
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ๅฎŒ็’งใซ่žใๅ–ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฎŸ้š›ใฎ็Šถๆณใง่žใ็ทด็ฟ’ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
01:12
Usually my listening activities are very, very clear, right?
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้€šๅธธใ€็งใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐๆดปๅ‹•ใฏ ้žๅธธใซๆ˜Ž็ขบใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
01:15
When you listen to me, I try to speak very clearly.
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็งใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’่žใใจใใฏใ€ ใฏใฃใใ‚Šใจ่ฉฑใ™ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅฟƒใŒใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:19
But this activity, there's noise, there's background noise,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ“ใฎๆดปๅ‹•ใซใฏใƒŽใ‚คใ‚บใŒใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€่ƒŒๆ™ฏใƒŽใ‚คใ‚บใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€
01:23
which means you have to focus really carefully.
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้žๅธธใซๆณจๆ„ๆทฑใ้›†ไธญใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
01:27
Okay, good.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
01:28
It's a challenge.
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ใใ‚ŒใฏๆŒ‘ๆˆฆใงใ™ใ€‚
01:30
So remember the question is,
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่ฆšใˆใฆใŠใ„ใฆใปใ—ใ„ใฎใฏใ€
01:33
how many energy sources do they mention?
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ„ใใคใฎใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผๆบใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†่ณชๅ•ใงใ™ใ€‚ ่žใๆบ–ๅ‚™ใŒใงใใŸใ‚‰ใ€
01:37
Just give me a thumbs up if you are ready to listen.
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ใŸใ ใ€Œใ„ใ„ใญ๏ผใ€ใ‚’ๆŠผใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚
01:41
Okay, good.
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01:42
We've got the thumbs up.
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ๆˆ‘ใ€…ใฏ่ณ›ๆˆใงใ™ใ€‚
01:43
We're ready.
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ๆบ–ๅ‚™ใฏใงใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:44
Okay, here we go.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
01:46
And let's do it.
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01:50
- [Jack] Hey Sarah, I read this thing about
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ตใƒฉใ•ใ‚“ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผ ใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹่จ˜ไบ‹ใ‚’่ชญใฟใพใ—ใŸ
01:52
renewable energy yesterday.
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01:54
Honestly, I don't get why people are so obsessed with it.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใ€ใชใœ ไบบใ€…ใŒใใ‚Œใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใ‹็†่งฃใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
01:57
- [Sarah] Are you serious, Jack?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆœฌๆฐ—ใชใฎใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ๏ผŸ
01:59
It's cleaner.
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ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใใ‚Œใ„ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:00
Better for the environment, and it's the only way forward.
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็’ฐๅขƒใซใจใฃใฆใ‚‚่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ‰้€ฒใ™ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€‚
02:03
How can you not see that?
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02:05
- [Jack] Sure, it sounds nice in theory,
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็ขบใ‹ใซใ€็†่ซ–็š„ใซใฏ่‰ฏใ•ใใ†ใงใ™ใŒใ€
02:08
but do you know how much it costs to set up solar panels?
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ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒฉใƒผใƒ‘ใƒใƒซใ‚’่จญ็ฝฎใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎ่ฒป็”จใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ™ใ‹?
02:11
Regular people just can't afford that.
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ๆ™ฎ้€šใฎไบบใซใฏใใ‚“ใชไฝ™่ฃ•ใฏใชใ„ใ€‚
02:13
- [Sarah] Okay, yeah, it's pricey at first,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใฏ้ซ˜ไพกใงใ™
02:15
but it pays off over time.
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02:17
And there are programs
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ใพใŸใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚ˆใ‚Š็ฐกๅ˜ใซไน—ใ‚Šๆ›ใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
02:18
and subsidies to make it easier for people to switch.
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ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใ‚„่ฃœๅŠฉ้‡‘ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
02:22
- [Jack] Oh yeah, and what about when the sun isn't shining
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ ใญใ€‚ ๅคช้™ฝใŒ็…งใฃใฆใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚Š
02:25
or the wind isn't blowing?
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02:27
How do you get your clean energy then?
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ใงใฏใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒผใƒณใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
02:29
- [Sarah] Have you ever heard of batteries?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ้›ปๆฑ ใฃใฆ่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
02:31
You know, nowadays we can store the energy,
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใงใฏ ใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’่ฒฏ่”ตใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€
02:33
plus you can use renewables alongside other
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ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅฟ…่ฆใซๅฟœใ˜ใฆ ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’ไป–ใฎ
02:35
sources when needed.
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ใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผๆบใจไฝต็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
02:37
It's not rocket science.
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02:38
- [Jack] So basically we're still using coal and gas.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏ็งใŸใกใฏ ใพใ ็Ÿณ็‚ญใจใ‚ฌใ‚นใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚
02:42
Doesn't that defeat the whole point?
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅ…จไฝ“ใฎใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’็„กๅŠนใซใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹?
02:44
- [Sarah] It's better than doing nothing, Jack.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใพใ—ใ ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
02:46
At least it's a step in the right direction.
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ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใฏ ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๅ‘ใธใฎไธ€ๆญฉใงใ™ใ€‚
02:49
- [Jack] A step that destroys the environment in other ways.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใง็’ฐๅขƒใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒƒใƒ—ใ€‚
02:52
Have you seen those wind farms?
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ใ‚ใฎ้ขจๅŠ›็™บ้›ปๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
02:54
They ruin landscapes, mess up wildlife and kill birds.
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02:57
- [Sarah] Oh, please, you are telling me wind turbines
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ ้ขจๅŠ›ใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ“ใƒณใฏ
03:00
are worse than burning coal?
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03:02
Be serious.
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03:03
- [Jack] I'm just saying they're not as eco-friendly
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€
03:05
as people like to think.
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ไบบใ€…ใŒๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใปใฉ็’ฐๅขƒใซๅ„ชใ—ใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
03:07
You can't just ignore the downsides.
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03:09
- [Sarah] And you can't keep making excuses
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ—ใฆใ€
03:10
for not changing.
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03:12
Fossil fuels are wrecking the planet,
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03:14
and we're running out of time.
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03:16
- [Jack] I'm not making excuses, I'm being realistic.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ่จ€ใ„่จณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ ใ€็พๅฎŸ็š„ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:19
Renewable energy has its flaws
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03:21
and people need to stop pretending it's perfect.
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03:24
- [Sarah] No one's saying it's perfect, Jack,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ่ชฐใ‚‚ๅฎŒ็’งใ ใจใฏ่จ€ใฃใฆใชใ„ใ‚ˆ ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
03:26
but doing nothing is a million times worse.
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03:29
What's your solution then?
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03:30
Just keep burning coal forever?
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03:33
- [Jack] No, but we need proper solutions,
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03:35
not just trendy ideas that sound good on paper.
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03:38
- [Sarah] Trendy ideas?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆต่กŒใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ข๏ผŸ
03:40
Wow, Jack, maybe you should start thinking about the future
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03:43
instead of staying stuck in the past.
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03:45
- [Jack] And maybe you should stop acting like
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03:47
renewables are some kind of magic fix.
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03:50
- [Sarah] Whatever, Jack, you do you.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
03:52
I'll stick with progress.
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03:54
- [Jack] Fine.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ€‚
03:55
Just don't expect me to jump on the bandwagon.
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03:57
- [Sarah] Trust me, I wasn't counting on it.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฟกใ˜ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€็งใฏ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:03
- All right, Jack and Sarah,
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04:08
not quite agreeing on their ideas.
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04:11
So the question was,
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04:13
how many energy sources do they mention?
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04:19
Just put the number down in the chat
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04:26
Azer Baijan says I lost count,
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Baijan ใฏใ€ๆ•ฐใˆๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใŸใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚Mashid
04:31
Mashid one, two.
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04:33
Okay, you've got four there.
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04:35
Four.
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04:37
Nora says one, two, three, four.
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04:40
Six, four, six, five, four, two here.
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04:48
Jack is Australian.
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04:50
That's why, Florence eight.
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04:52
Wow.
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04:54
Mitch, the answer here, I'm just gonna go straight up
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04:57
and give you the answer.
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05:00
The answer was actually five. Okay.
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05:03
So they did mention solar panels, which you got coal,
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05:08
burning coal.
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05:10
They mentioned gas, they mentioned the wind farms
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ฌใ‚นใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใ€ ้ขจๅŠ›็™บ้›ปๆ‰€ใ‚„้ขจๅŠ›ใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ“ใƒณใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚่จ€ๅŠใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒ
05:13
or wind turbines, the same thing really.
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05:16
And they mentioned mentioned fossil fuels.
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05:20
Now, fossil fuels, I count as number five
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05:23
because fossil fuels is more than just coal and gas.
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05:28
I mean, coal and gas are fossil fuels,
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05:31
but there are other fossil fuels, petroleum,
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05:35
oil, et cetera.
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05:37
So I count that as a fifth one, right?
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05:40
Five.
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05:42
So those are the different energy sources.
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05:44
Five of them.
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05:45
Now we are going to listen again.
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05:48
And this time as we listen again, I want you
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05:53
to two to do fill in the boxes.
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06:00
So you're gonna hear different colocations.
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06:03
Listen to the conversation again.
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06:05
Fill the box with the colocation you hear.
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่žใ„ใŸใ‚ณใƒญใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ใƒœใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใซ่จ˜ๅ…ฅใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
06:08
So what I mean is the
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06:13
missing word, right?
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06:14
So this is the colocation.
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06:18
Fill the boxes with the missing
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06:20
word you hear.
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06:25
Yeah, so I mean, all of these are basically colocations,
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06:29
but you just want to identify the missing word, one word,
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06:36
the missing one word.
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ไธ่ถณใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ 1 ใคใฎๅ˜่ชžใ‚’็‰นๅฎšใ—ใŸใ„ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
06:38
Okay, so I'll play it again and try
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ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใฆใ€
06:42
and identify the missing word.
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ๆŠœใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ˜่ชžใ‚’็‰นๅฎšใ—ใฆใฟใพใ™ใ€‚
06:45
Okay, Anna says, where are you from?
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ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€ใจใ‚ขใƒณใƒŠใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใฉใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใŸใฎ๏ผŸ
06:49
Me, I am from Manchester in England,
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06:52
in the north of England.
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06:55
Okay, right.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
07:00
Here we go.
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ใ•ใ่กŒใ“ใ†ใ€‚
07:01
Let's do it one more time.
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07:02
Well at least.
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ใพใ‚ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ใ€‚
07:04
But let's play.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€้Šใณใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
07:05
- [Jack] Hey Sarah, I read this thing about
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ตใƒฉใ•ใ‚“ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผ ใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹่จ˜ไบ‹ใ‚’่ชญใฟใพใ—ใŸ
07:07
renewable energy yesterday.
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07:09
Honestly, I don't get why people are so obsessed with it.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใ€ใชใœ ไบบใ€…ใŒใใ‚Œใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใ‹็†่งฃใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:13
- [Sarah] Are you serious, Jack?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆœฌๆฐ—ใชใฎใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ๏ผŸ
07:14
It's cleaner.
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ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใใ‚Œใ„ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:15
Better for the environment, and it's the only way forward.
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07:18
How can you not see that?
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07:20
- [Jack] Sure, it sounds nice in theory,
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็ขบใ‹ใซใ€็†่ซ–็š„ใซใฏ่‰ฏใ•ใใ†ใงใ™ใŒใ€
07:23
but do you know how much it costs to set up solar panels?
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ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒฉใƒผใƒ‘ใƒใƒซใ‚’่จญ็ฝฎใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎ่ฒป็”จใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ™ใ‹?
07:26
Regular people just can't afford that.
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ๆ™ฎ้€šใฎไบบใซใฏใใ‚“ใชไฝ™่ฃ•ใฏใชใ„ใ€‚
07:28
- [Sarah] Okay, yeah, it's pricey at first,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใฏ้ซ˜ไพกใงใ™
07:30
but it pays off over time.
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07:32
And there are programs
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ใพใŸใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚ˆใ‚Š็ฐกๅ˜ใซไน—ใ‚Šๆ›ใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
07:34
and subsidies to make it easier for people to switch.
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07:37
- [Jack] Oh yeah, and what about when the sun isn't shining
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ ใญใ€‚ ๅคช้™ฝใŒ็…งใฃใฆใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚Š
07:40
or the wind isn't blowing?
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07:42
How do you get your clean energy then?
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07:44
- [Sarah] Have you ever heard of batteries?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ้›ปๆฑ ใฃใฆ่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
07:46
You know, nowadays we can store the energy,
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07:48
plus you can use renewables alongside other
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ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅฟ…่ฆใซๅฟœใ˜ใฆ ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’ไป–ใฎ
07:51
sources when needed.
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07:52
It's not rocket science.
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07:54
- [Jack] So basically we're still using coal and gas.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏ็งใŸใกใฏ ใพใ ็Ÿณ็‚ญใจใ‚ฌใ‚นใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚
07:57
Doesn't that defeat the whole point?
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07:59
- [Sarah] It's better than doing nothing, Jack.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใพใ—ใ ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
08:01
At least it's a step in the right direction.
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ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใฏ ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๅ‘ใธใฎไธ€ๆญฉใงใ™ใ€‚
08:04
- [Jack] A step that destroys the environment in other ways.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใง็’ฐๅขƒใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒƒใƒ—ใ€‚
08:06
Have you seen those wind farms?
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ใ‚ใฎ้ขจๅŠ›็™บ้›ปๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
08:09
They ruin landscapes, mess up wildlife and kill birds.
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08:12
- [Sarah] Oh, please, you are telling me wind turbines
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ ้ขจๅŠ›ใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ“ใƒณใฏ
08:15
are worse than burning coal?
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็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’็‡ƒใ‚„ใ™ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๆ‚ชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
08:17
Be serious.
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็œŸๅ‰ฃใซใชใ‚Šใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚
08:18
- [Jack] I'm just saying they're not as eco-friendly
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€
08:20
as people like to think.
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ไบบใ€…ใŒๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใปใฉ็’ฐๅขƒใซๅ„ชใ—ใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
08:22
You can't just ignore the downsides.
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ๆฌ ็‚นใ‚’็„ก่ฆ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:24
- [Sarah] And you can't keep making excuses
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ—ใฆใ€
08:26
for not changing.
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08:27
Fossil fuels are wrecking the planet,
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08:29
and we're running out of time.
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08:31
- [Jack] I'm not making excuses, I'm being realistic.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ่จ€ใ„่จณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ ใ€็พๅฎŸ็š„ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
08:34
Renewable energy has its flaws
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ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใซใฏๆฌ ็‚นใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
08:36
and people need to stop pretending it's perfect.
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ใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฎŒ็’งใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฃ…ใ†ใฎใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€‚
08:39
- [Sarah] No one's saying it's perfect, Jack,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ่ชฐใ‚‚ๅฎŒ็’งใ ใจใฏ่จ€ใฃใฆใชใ„ใ‚ˆ ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
08:41
but doing nothing is a million times worse.
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08:44
What's your solution then?
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ใงใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
08:46
Just keep burning coal forever?
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ๆฐธ้ ใซ็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’็‡ƒใ‚„ใ—็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
08:48
- [Jack] No, but we need proper solutions,
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
08:51
not just trendy ideas that sound good on paper.
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08:53
- [Sarah] Trendy ideas?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆต่กŒใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ข๏ผŸ
08:55
Wow, Jack, maybe you should start thinking about the future
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€
08:58
instead of staying stuck in the past.
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้ŽๅŽปใซใจใ‚‰ใ‚ใ‚Œ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€ๅฐ†ๆฅใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใญใ€‚
09:00
- [Jack] And maybe you should stop acting like
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ]
09:02
renewables are some kind of magic fix.
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ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใŒ้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆŒฏใ‚‹่ˆžใ†ใฎใฏใ‚„ใ‚ใŸๆ–นใŒใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
09:05
- [Sarah] Whatever, Jack, you do you.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
09:07
I'll stick with progress.
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09:09
- [Jack] Fine.
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09:10
Just don't expect me to jump on the bandwagon.
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09:12
- [Sarah] Trust me, I wasn't counting on it.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฟกใ˜ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€็งใฏ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:16
- Poor old Sarah.
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09:17
I think Jack's quite funny, right?
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09:19
Excellent.
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09:20
Good, really, really good.
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09:22
I'm gonna go back to where you had the I your
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09:25
original ideas.
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09:28
So number two, a lot of you got
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09:32
it pays off.
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09:33
It pays off for number one.
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09:37
A lot of you got way, way, way
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09:42
number three.
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09:44
A lot of you got point,
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09:50
point, point,
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09:53
point, yep.
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09:57
And point, number four,
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10:01
up, up, up.
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10:03
A lot of you got up.
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10:05
Number five, I think most of you got
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10:10
wrecking or rocking.
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10:14
Very interesting.
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10:17
Wrecking or rocking?
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10:19
Wrecking.
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10:20
Wrecking.
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10:21
Wrecking.
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10:22
Okay, and number six, we've got fix.
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10:24
Fix, magic.
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10:28
Fix.
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10:28
I'm gonna play it again.
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10:29
And as I play it, I'll write in the answers
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10:31
so you can see them as it happens.
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10:33
Okay, let's do it.
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10:36
- [Jack] Hey Sarah, I read this thing about
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ตใƒฉใ•ใ‚“ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผ ใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹่จ˜ไบ‹ใ‚’่ชญใฟใพใ—ใŸ
10:38
renewable energy yesterday.
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10:40
Honestly, I don't get why people are so obsessed with it.
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10:43
- [Sarah] Are you serious, Jack?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆœฌๆฐ—ใชใฎใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ๏ผŸ
10:45
It's cleaner.
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10:46
Better for the environment, and it's the only way forward.
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10:49
How can you not see that?
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10:51
- [Jack] Sure, it sounds nice in theory,
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็ขบใ‹ใซใ€็†่ซ–็š„ใซใฏ่‰ฏใ•ใใ†ใงใ™ใŒใ€
10:54
but do you know how much it costs to set up solar panels?
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10:57
Regular people just can't afford that.
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10:59
- [Sarah] Okay, yeah, it's pricey at first,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใฏ้ซ˜ไพกใงใ™
11:01
but it pays off over time.
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11:03
And there are programs
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11:05
and subsidies to make it easier for people to switch.
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11:08
- [Jack] Oh yeah, and what about when the sun isn't shining
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11:11
or the wind isn't blowing?
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11:13
How do you get your clean energy then?
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11:15
- [Sarah] Have you ever heard of batteries?
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11:17
You know, nowadays we can store the energy,
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11:19
plus you can use renewables alongside other
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11:21
sources when needed.
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11:23
It's not rocket science.
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11:25
- [Jack] So basically we're still using coal and gas.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏ็งใŸใกใฏ ใพใ ็Ÿณ็‚ญใจใ‚ฌใ‚นใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚
11:28
Doesn't that defeat the whole point?
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11:30
- [Sarah] It's better than doing nothing, Jack.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใพใ—ใ ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
11:32
At least it's a step in the right direction.
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11:35
- [Jack] A step that destroys the environment in other ways.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใง็’ฐๅขƒใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒƒใƒ—ใ€‚
11:38
Have you seen those wind farms?
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11:40
They ruin landscapes, mess up wildlife and kill birds.
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11:43
- [Sarah] Oh, please, you are telling me wind turbines
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11:46
are worse than burning coal?
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11:48
Be serious.
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11:49
- [Jack] I'm just saying they're not as eco-friendly
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€
11:51
as people like to think.
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11:53
You can't just ignore the downsides.
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11:55
- [Sarah] And you can't keep making excuses
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ—ใฆใ€
11:57
for not changing.
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11:58
Fossil fuels are wrecking the planet,
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12:00
and we're running out of time.
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12:02
- [Jack] I'm not making excuses, I'm being realistic.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ่จ€ใ„่จณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ ใ€็พๅฎŸ็š„ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:05
Renewable energy has its flaws
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ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใซใฏๆฌ ็‚นใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
12:07
and people need to stop pretending it's perfect.
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ใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฎŒ็’งใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฃ…ใ†ใฎใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€‚
12:10
- [Sarah] No one's saying it's perfect, Jack,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ่ชฐใ‚‚ๅฎŒ็’งใ ใจใฏ่จ€ใฃใฆใชใ„ใ‚ˆ ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
12:12
but doing nothing is a million times worse.
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12:15
What's your solution then?
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ใงใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
12:17
Just keep burning coal forever?
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ๆฐธ้ ใซ็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’็‡ƒใ‚„ใ—็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
12:19
- [Jack] No, but we need proper solutions,
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
12:21
not just trendy ideas that sound good on paper.
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็ด™ใฎไธŠใงใฏ่‰ฏใ•ใใ†ใซ่žใ“ใˆใ‚‹ๆต่กŒใ‚Šใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€้ฉๅˆ‡ใช่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚
12:24
- [Sarah] Trendy ideas?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆต่กŒใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ข๏ผŸ
12:26
Wow, Jack, maybe you should start thinking about the future
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€
12:29
instead of staying stuck in the past.
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้ŽๅŽปใซใจใ‚‰ใ‚ใ‚Œ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€ๅฐ†ๆฅใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใญใ€‚
12:31
- [Jack] And maybe you should stop acting like
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ]
12:33
renewables are some kind of magic fix.
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12:36
- [Sarah] Whatever, Jack, you do you.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
12:38
I'll stick with progress.
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็งใฏ้€ฒๆญฉใซใ“ใ ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
12:40
- [Jack] Fine.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ€‚
12:41
Just don't expect me to jump on the bandwagon.
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ใŸใ ใ€็งใŒ ๆต่กŒใซไน—ใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
12:43
- [Sarah] Trust me, I wasn't counting on it.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฟกใ˜ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€็งใฏ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:48
- Great, I wonder if Jack
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- ใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ
12:49
and Sarah will be going for coffee tomorrow.
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ใจใ‚ตใƒฉใฏ ๆ˜Žๆ—ฅใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ‚’้ฃฒใฟใซ่กŒใใฎใ‹ใชใ€‚
12:52
Maybe not.
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ใใ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
12:53
Okay, well done, brilliant.
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12:54
You've got it.
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ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:55
So the only way forward it pays off to pay off.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ๅ‰้€ฒใ™ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใฏใ€ ๆˆๆžœใ‚’ไธŠใ’ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
13:00
Meaning that it compensates, it's worth it.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ่ฃœๅ„Ÿใ•ใ‚Œใ€ไพกๅ€คใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
13:04
Defeat the whole point means it.
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ๅ…จไฝ“ใฎใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๅ€’ใ™ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:07
You know, it goes against the whole idea.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅ…จไฝ“ใฎ่€ƒใˆใซๅใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
13:12
Mess up to destroy if you like.
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็ ดๅฃŠใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ‚ใกใ‚ƒใใกใ‚ƒใซใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚‚ใŠๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
13:15
Wrecking to destroy as well
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็ ดๅฃŠใ—
13:19
and fix a magic solution.
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ใฆ้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใ‚’ไฟฎๆญฃใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:22
Yep.
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13:23
So solution.
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13:25
Maybe I can just add this in to make it a bit clearer.
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13:31
Destroying, destroy,
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13:41
defeat the whole point basically means a waste of time.
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ๅ…จไฝ“ใ‚’ๆ‰“ใก่ฒ ใ‹ใ™ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซๆ™‚้–“ใฎ็„ก้ง„ใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:47
You are doing something that destroys
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13:50
what you've done already.
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13:51
Waste of time.
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13:52
It pays off.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅ ฑใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
13:55
So the idea here is compensates.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ“ใงใฎ่€ƒใˆๆ–นใฏ่ฃœๅ„Ÿใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
13:59
Compensates the only way forward.
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ๅ‰้€ฒใ™ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’่ฃœๅ„Ÿใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:05
It's the only, the only way.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
14:09
It's the only path.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎ้“ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:10
But it's more abstract.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚‚ใฃใจๆŠฝ่ฑก็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:12
It's the only way forward.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅ‰้€ฒใ™ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎ้“ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:16
The only path forward.
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ๅ‰้€ฒใ™ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎ้“ใ€‚
14:18
The only route forward.
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ๅ‰้€ฒใ™ใ‚‹ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎ้“ใ€‚
14:22
But in an abstract way, right?
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ใงใ‚‚ๆŠฝ่ฑก็š„ใชๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
14:24
Okay.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
14:26
Excellent.
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14:26
Good.
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็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚
่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚
14:27
So there were all the answers.
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14:31
What we'll do a final time is we'll listen
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14:35
to the whole thing.
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14:37
What I'm gonna do this time is you can listen
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14:41
and read at the same time.
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14:44
I'm gonna take off the background noise.
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่ƒŒๆ™ฏใฎ้›‘้Ÿณใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใใพใ™ใ€‚
14:47
That might just help you focus a bit more
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14:50
and you'll see the difference,
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14:52
how much easier it is when you have no background noise
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่ƒŒๆ™ฏใฎ้›‘้ŸณใŒใชใ„ใจใ
14:55
and also when you are reading.
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14:57
And then if there's any words we don't know,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ๅ˜่ชžใ‚„
15:00
keywords, I'll point those out.
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ใ‚ญใƒผใƒฏใƒผใƒ‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆŒ‡ๆ‘˜ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
15:02
Let's do it. Let's have a look and listen the final time.
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15:06
- [Jack] Hey Sarah, I read this thing about
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ตใƒฉใ•ใ‚“ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผ ใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹่จ˜ไบ‹ใ‚’่ชญใฟใพใ—ใŸ
15:07
renewable energy yesterday.
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15:09
Honestly, I don't get why people are so obsessed with it.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใ€ใชใœ ไบบใ€…ใŒใใ‚Œใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใ‹็†่งฃใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:13
- [Sarah] Are you serious, Jack?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆœฌๆฐ—ใชใฎใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ๏ผŸ
15:14
It's cleaner.
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15:15
Better for the environment, and it's the only way forward.
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15:19
How can you not see that?
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15:21
- [Jack] Sure, it sounds nice in theory,
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็ขบใ‹ใซใ€็†่ซ–็š„ใซใฏ่‰ฏใ•ใใ†ใงใ™ใŒใ€
15:23
but do you know how much it costs to set up solar panels?
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ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒฉใƒผใƒ‘ใƒใƒซใ‚’่จญ็ฝฎใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎ่ฒป็”จใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ™ใ‹?
15:27
Regular people just can't afford that.
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ๆ™ฎ้€šใฎไบบใซใฏใใ‚“ใชไฝ™่ฃ•ใฏใชใ„ใ€‚
15:29
- [Sarah] Okay, yeah, it's pricey at first,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใฏ้ซ˜ไพกใงใ™
15:31
but it pays off over time.
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ใŒใ€ๆ™‚้–“ใŒ็ตŒใคใซใคใ‚Œใฆๅ…ƒใŒๅ–ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
15:33
And there are programs
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ใพใŸใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚ˆใ‚Š็ฐกๅ˜ใซไน—ใ‚Šๆ›ใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
15:34
and subsidies to make it easier for people to switch.
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ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใ‚„่ฃœๅŠฉ้‡‘ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
15:38
- [Jack] Oh yeah, and what about when the sun isn't shining
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ ใญใ€‚ ๅคช้™ฝใŒ็…งใฃใฆใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚Š
15:40
or the wind isn't blowing?
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ใ€้ขจใŒๅนใ„ใฆใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸ
15:42
How do you get your clean energy then?
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ใงใฏใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒผใƒณใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
15:44
- [Sarah] Have you ever heard of batteries?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ้›ปๆฑ ใฃใฆ่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
15:46
You know, nowadays we can store the energy,
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใงใฏ ใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’่ฒฏ่”ตใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€
15:49
plus you can use renewables alongside other
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ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅฟ…่ฆใซๅฟœใ˜ใฆ ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’ไป–ใฎ
15:51
sources when needed.
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ใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผๆบใจไฝต็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
15:52
It's not rocket science.
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15:54
- [Jack] So basically we're still using coal and gas.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏ็งใŸใกใฏ ใพใ ็Ÿณ็‚ญใจใ‚ฌใ‚นใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใญใ€‚
15:57
Doesn't that defeat the whole point?
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15:59
- [Sarah] It's better than doing nothing, Jack.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใฏใพใ—ใ ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
16:02
At least it's a step in the right direction.
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ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใฏ ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๅ‘ใธใฎไธ€ๆญฉใงใ™ใ€‚
16:04
- [Jack] A step that destroys the environment in other ways.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใง็’ฐๅขƒใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒƒใƒ—ใ€‚
16:07
Have you seen those wind farms?
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ใ‚ใฎ้ขจๅŠ›็™บ้›ปๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
16:09
They ruin landscapes, mess up wildlife and kill birds.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆ™ฏ่ฆณใ‚’ๅฐ็„กใ—ใซใ—ใ€ ้‡Ž็”Ÿ็”Ÿ็‰ฉใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใ€้ณฅใ‚’ๆฎบใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:13
- [Sarah] Oh, please, you are telling me wind turbines
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ ้ขจๅŠ›ใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ“ใƒณใฏ
16:15
are worse than burning coal?
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็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’็‡ƒใ‚„ใ™ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๆ‚ชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
16:17
Be serious.
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็œŸๅ‰ฃใซใชใ‚Šใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚
16:18
- [Jack] I'm just saying they're not as eco-friendly
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€
16:21
as people like to think.
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ไบบใ€…ใŒๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใปใฉ็’ฐๅขƒใซๅ„ชใ—ใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
16:22
You can't just ignore the downsides.
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ๆฌ ็‚นใ‚’็„ก่ฆ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:24
- [Sarah] And you can't keep making excuses
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ใใ—ใฆใ€
16:26
for not changing.
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16:27
Fossil fuels are wrecking the planet,
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ๅŒ–็Ÿณ็‡ƒๆ–™ใฏๅœฐ็ƒใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€
16:30
and we're running out of time.
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็งใŸใกใซใฏๆ™‚้–“ใŒใชใใชใฃใฆใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:31
- [Jack] I'm not making excuses, I'm being realistic.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ่จ€ใ„่จณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ ใ€็พๅฎŸ็š„ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
16:34
Renewable energy has its flaws
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ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใซใฏๆฌ ็‚นใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
16:37
and people need to stop pretending it's perfect.
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ใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฎŒ็’งใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฃ…ใ†ใฎใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€‚
16:39
- [Sarah] No one's saying it's perfect, Jack,
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ่ชฐใ‚‚ๅฎŒ็’งใ ใจใฏ่จ€ใฃใฆใชใ„ใ‚ˆ ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
16:41
but doing nothing is a million times worse.
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ใงใ‚‚ไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ—ใชใ„ใฎใฏ ็™พไธ‡ๅ€ๆ‚ชใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚
16:44
What's your solution then?
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ใงใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
16:46
Just keep burning coal forever?
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ๆฐธ้ ใซ็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’็‡ƒใ‚„ใ—็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
16:48
- [Jack] No, but we need proper solutions,
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
16:51
not just trendy ideas that sound good on paper.
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็ด™ใฎไธŠใงใฏ่‰ฏใ•ใใ†ใซ่žใ“ใˆใ‚‹ๆต่กŒใ‚Šใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€้ฉๅˆ‡ใช่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚
16:54
- [Sarah] Trendy ideas?
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ๆต่กŒใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ข๏ผŸ
16:55
Wow, Jack, maybe you should start thinking about the future
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€
16:59
instead of staying stuck in the past.
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้ŽๅŽปใซใจใ‚‰ใ‚ใ‚Œ็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€ๅฐ†ๆฅใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใญใ€‚
17:01
- [Jack] And maybe you should stop acting like
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ]
17:03
renewables are some kind of magic fix.
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ๅ†็”Ÿๅฏ่ƒฝใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใŒ้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆŒฏใ‚‹่ˆžใ†ใฎใฏใ‚„ใ‚ใŸๆ–นใŒใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
17:05
- [Sarah] Whatever, Jack, you do you.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
17:08
I'll stick with progress.
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็งใฏ้€ฒๆญฉใซใ“ใ ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
17:09
- [Jack] Fine.
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- [ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏ] ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ€‚
17:10
Just don't expect me to jump on the bandwagon.
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ใŸใ ใ€็งใŒ ๆต่กŒใซไน—ใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
17:12
- [Sarah] Trust me, I wasn't counting on it.
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- [ใ‚ตใƒฉ] ไฟกใ˜ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€็งใฏ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
17:17
- Okay, good.
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- ใฏใ„ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
17:22
Okay, you have to leave.
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17:22
No problem.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€ๅ‡บ็™บใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
ๅ•้กŒใชใ„ใ€‚
17:24
Good to see you.
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ใŠไผšใ„ใงใใฆๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
17:25
Take care.
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ๆฐ—ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใฆใ€‚
17:26
Wrecking and rocking.
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็ ดๅฃŠใจๆบใ‚Œใ€‚
17:27
You confused.
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ๆททไนฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใญใ€‚
17:28
Yeah, they sound similar, right?
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ใˆใˆใ€ไผผใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใช้Ÿฟใใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
17:29
Wrecking, rocking.
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็ ดๅฃŠใ€ๆบใ‚Œใ€‚
17:32
Defeat the point.
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ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’็ ดใ‚‹ใ€‚
17:34
Good question.
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ใ„ใ„่ณชๅ•ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
17:35
Yeah, what does that mean exactly?
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใซใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹?
17:39
Doesn't that defeat the point?
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ใชใ•ใชใ„ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ™ใ‹?
17:46
So I'm trying to think of the best way to explain that
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏใ€ใใฎ็‚นใ‚’่ฆ†ใ™ใŸใ‚ใซใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ๆœ€ๅ–„ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™
17:49
to defeat the point.
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ใ€‚
17:51
The point is the, the idea that you have.
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้‡่ฆใชใฎใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใงใ™ใ€‚
17:57
So to defeat the point is to kind of destroy.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใ‚’ๆ‰“ใก็ ดใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใง็ ดๅฃŠใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
18:01
Destroy the idea.
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ใใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
18:09
Let me see if I can give an example.
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ไพ‹ใ‚’ๆŒ™ใ’ใฆ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใฆใฟใพใ™ใ€‚
18:16
So for, I mean, I'm trying to think, but an example.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฏ่€ƒใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ ใŒใ€ไพ‹ใ‚’ๆŒ™ใ’ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:19
So imagine, Hmm.
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ใใ‚Œใงๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใ€ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
18:26
Well in their case they're saying we are gonna use
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€้ขจๅŠ›ใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใจ็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’ ไฝฟใ†ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™
18:31
wind energy and coal.
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18:36
We can use both.
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ใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚ไฝฟใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
18:38
And Jack says, but if you're still using coal,
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ‚‚ใ— ใพใ ็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’ไฝฟใ„็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€
18:42
the idea, the whole idea of
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18:45
improving the environment is destroyed
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็’ฐๅขƒใ‚’ๆ”นๅ–„ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†่€ƒใˆใใฎใ‚‚ใฎใŒ็ ดๅฃŠใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ€
18:49
'cause you're still using coal.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใพใ ็Ÿณ็‚ญใ‚’ไฝฟใ„็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใ€‚
18:51
You are destroying the first idea, defeating the point.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ— ใ€่ฆ็‚นใ‚’็„กๅŠนใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:57
Destroying, whoops.
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็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใพใ™ใ€ใŠใฃใจใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ€
19:01
You are kind of destroying the first idea.
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ๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ‚’็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
19:04
You're defeating the point.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่ฆ็‚นใ‚’่ฆ†ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
19:07
I hope that makes sense.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆˆใ™ใจใ„ใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€‚
19:08
Let me know if not
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19:12
to mess up and to wreck to destroy.
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ๅฐ็„กใ—ใซใ›ใšใ€ๅฃŠใ—ใฆ็ ดๅฃŠใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใ€ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
19:14
Good.
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่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚
19:15
Exactly.
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ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚
19:17
I thought she was gonna say it's not a magic bullet.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏ ใใ‚ŒใŒ้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใงใฏใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใ†ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใฃใŸใ€‚
19:20
Yes.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚
19:21
Right, a magic fix is a magic bullet.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใฏ้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใงใ™ใ€‚
19:23
It's a very similar idea.
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้žๅธธใซไผผใŸ่€ƒใˆใงใ™ใ€‚
19:26
So that fix, a magic fix is a solution.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใฎไฟฎๆญฃใ€้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎไฟฎๆญฃใŒ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
19:35
A magic solution.
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้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใ€‚
19:41
You can also say a magic bullet.
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้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใจใ‚‚่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
19:43
A silver bullet.
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้Š€ใฎๅผพไธธใ€‚
19:44
A silver bullet, a magic bullet.
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้Š€ใฎๅผพไธธใ€้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใ€‚
19:46
Wait a minute, this is where I need to double check.
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ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅพ…ใฃใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€ใ“ใ“ใฏ ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆ็ขบ่ชใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
19:58
A silver bullet is a quick solution.
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็‰นๅŠน่–ฌใฏๆ‰‹ใฃๅ–ใ‚Šๆ—ฉใ„่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใงใ™ใ€‚
20:02
Do we say magic bullet?
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้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใจ่จ€ใ†ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
20:08
Yeah, a medicine or remedy with specific.
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ใฏใ„ใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎ่–ฌใ‚„ๆฒป็™‚่–ฌใงใ™ใ€‚
20:12
Ah, okay, a very specific solution to a problem.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ๅ•้กŒใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹้žๅธธใซๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใช ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
20:15
Magic bullet, silver bullet.
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้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใ€้Š€ใฎๅผพไธธใ€‚
20:17
So both of those, a magic bullet.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ 2 ใคใฏ้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใงใ™ใ€‚
20:25
No bullet or a silver bullet
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20:32
after last week's black horse.
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ๅ…ˆ้€ฑใฎ้ป’ใ„้ฆฌใฎๅพŒใงใฏใ€ๅผพไธธใ‚‚็‰นๅŠน่–ฌใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:35
Do you remember the black horse and the dark horse?
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้ป’ใ„้ฆฌใจ้ป’ใ„้ฆฌใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ ?
20:37
I just want to make sure we've got it right.
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ใŸใ ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๆญฃใ—ใ„ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹็ขบ่ชใ—ใŸใ„ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ ใ€‚
20:41
Okay, great.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
20:42
Milda thank you for that, that's great.
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ใƒŸใƒซใƒ€ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
20:44
Magic bullet, silver bullet.
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้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใ€้Š€ใฎๅผพไธธใ€‚
20:48
Have you ever heard, what does she say?
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ๅฝผๅฅณใŒไฝ•ใฆ่จ€ใ†ใ‹่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
20:52
Have you ever heard of, ever heard of?
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่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
20:56
Yeah, but so
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ใˆใˆใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ€
20:59
the have you can drop in spoken conversation.
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ๅฃ้ ญใงใฎไผš่ฉฑใซๅ‰ฒใ‚Š่พผใ‚€ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
21:02
We often drop the auxiliary.
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ๅŠฉๅ‹•่ฉžใฏ็œ็•ฅใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒๅคšใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:07
Right, instead of saying, do you want,
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใ€Œ่กŒใใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซใ€ใ€Œ
21:09
you say you want, you want to go.
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่กŒใใŸใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
21:12
Have you ever heard of, ever heard of,
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่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹ใ€่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹ใ€
21:15
we often drop the the have.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ˆใ have ใ‚’็œ็•ฅใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:23
Rocket science means that it's not that hard.
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ใƒญใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆ็ง‘ๅญฆใจใฏใ€ ใใ‚Œใปใฉ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ€‚
21:26
Exactly.
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ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚
21:27
Yes.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚
21:28
It's not rocket science that's a very good expression.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใƒญใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆ็ง‘ๅญฆใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ ใจใฆใ‚‚่‰ฏใ„่กจ็พใงใ™ใ€‚
21:31
Actually, let's put it in.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
21:34
Where was it?
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ใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ‹?
21:42
Was it at the, it's not rocket science, yes.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใƒญใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆ็ง‘ๅญฆใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€ใฏใ„ใ€‚
21:52
It's not rocket science usually used in the negative.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใƒญใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆ็ง‘ๅญฆใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ ้€šๅธธใฏๅฆๅฎš็š„ใชๆ„ๅ‘ณใงไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
21:55
Exactly.
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ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚
21:56
Saying it's not, it's not too difficult.
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ใใ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใปใฉ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
21:57
It's not very difficult.
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ใใ‚Œใปใฉ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
21:59
Excellent.
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็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚
22:00
Good.
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่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚
22:01
Okay.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
22:06
This is very helpful.
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22:06
I thank you so much.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ€‚
ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:07
Okay, Pierre, you're very welcome.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใƒ”ใ‚จใƒผใƒซใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใฉใ†ใ„ใŸใ—ใพใ—ใฆใ€‚
22:10
Great, bandwagon, I'm gonna explain later, Lilian,
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็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใƒฏใ‚ดใƒณใ€‚ ๅพŒใง่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€ใƒชใƒชใ‚ขใƒณใ€
22:15
I'll explain later the bandwagon.
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ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใƒฏใ‚ดใƒณใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๅพŒใง่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:19
Yeah, also same question, okay, I'll explain that later
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๅŒใ˜่ณชๅ•ใงใ™ ใŒใ€
22:22
because that's coming up in a moment.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ใใซๅ‡บใฆใใ‚‹ใฎใงๅพŒใง่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:27
Make free cost lectures.
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็„กๆ–™ใง่ฌ›็พฉใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:29
Okay.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
22:30
Well you have YouTube.
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ใพใ‚ใ€YouTube ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
22:32
You have 400 plus videos on YouTube, my friend.
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ๅ›ใฎ YouTube ใซใฏ 400 ๆœฌไปฅไธŠใฎๅ‹•็”ปใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆ ใ€ๅ‹ใ‚ˆใ€‚
22:36
Okay, a magic pill rather.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่–ฌใงใ™ใญใ€‚
22:39
You could also say a magic pill.
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้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่–ฌใจใ‚‚่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
22:40
Yes, magic bullet, magic pill.
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ใฏใ„ใ€้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎๅผพไธธใ€้ญ”ๆณ•ใฎ่–ฌใงใ™ใ€‚
22:45
Dark sheep.
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ๆš—ใ„็พŠใ€‚
22:47
Black sheep.
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้ป’ใ„็พŠใ€‚
22:48
That one Alexander is black Sheep of the family.
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ใ‚ใฎใ‚ขใƒฌใ‚ฏใ‚ตใƒณใƒ€ใƒผใฏ ๅฎถๆ—ใฎไธญใงๅŽ„ไป‹่€…ใ ใ€‚
22:51
Dark horse, black sheep.
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ใƒ€ใƒผใ‚ฏใƒ›ใƒผใ‚นใ€ๅŽ„ไป‹่€…ใ€‚
22:56
Right, okay, where am I?
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ“ใ“ใฏใฉใ“ใงใ™ใ‹?
23:00
Let me check in listening activity, I'm gonna move on.
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ใƒชใ‚นใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚ขใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ“ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ใƒใ‚งใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆ ใ€ๆฌกใซ้€ฒใฟใพใ™ใ€‚
23:04
(upbeat music)
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