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๐Ÿ˜ Do you Love Learning English? ๐Ÿงก - Join the Live Chat ๐Ÿ”ด - Sun 28th Jan 2024 - (English Addict 278)

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English Addict with Mr Duncan


ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

03:13
we are back together again.
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็งใŸใกใฏใพใŸไธ€็ท’ใซๆˆปใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
03:14
It's ever so nice to be here on a very calm day.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚็ฉใ‚„ใ‹ใชๆ—ฅใซใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใ‚‹ใฎใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:20
It is cloudy,
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ๆ›‡ใฃใฆใ„ใฆ
03:22
quite damp, but at least it's not raining.
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Šๆนฟใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚้›จใฏ้™ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
03:28
Well, not yet, anyway.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใจใซใ‹ใใพใ ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:30
Here we are. English addict is back with you.
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ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ่‹ฑ่ชžไธญๆฏ’่€…ใŒๆˆปใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
03:32
And yes, we are live from the birthplace of the English language,
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ใใ†ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ ่‹ฑ่ชž็™บ็ฅฅใฎๅœฐใ€
03:37
which just happens to be England.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใ‹ใ‚‰็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
04:00
broadcaster.
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ๆ”พ้€ๅฑ€ใ€‚
04:01
Yes, everyone.
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ใฏใ„ใ€็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:03
And here we are again.
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ใใ—ใฆใพใŸใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:05
Back once more with some more fun.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆๆˆปใฃใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚
04:09
Apologies for being slightly late.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—้…ใ‚Œใฆ็”ณใ—่จณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:11
I might tell you why that is, although I probably won't.
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ใใฎ็†็”ฑใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใŒใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ่ฉฑใ•ใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
04:15
Hi, everybody.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:16
This is Mr. Duncan in England.
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ใ“ใกใ‚‰ใฏใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใฎใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
04:19
How are you today?
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
04:20
Are you okay? I hope so. Are you happy?
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ๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใใ†ใ ใจใ„ใ„ใ€‚ ๅนธใ›ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
04:24
Are you feeling happy on this Sunday? Yes.
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ไปŠ้€ฑใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใฏๅนธใ›ใชๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใพใŸใ—ใฆใ‚‚
04:29
We have made it all the way to Sunday once again.
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ๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใพใงใ‚„ใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:32
Don't forget.
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ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใชใ„ใงใ€‚ ็งใจ
04:34
Please give me a like to let me know that you care
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04:37
about me and my work here on YouTube.
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YouTube ใงใฎ็งใฎไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ๆฐ—ใซใ‹ใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ›ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ€ใ€Œใ„ใ„ใญใ€ใ‚’ๆŠผใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ๆญฃ็›ดใชใจใ“ใ‚
04:41
Because let's face it, if I left it to YouTube to help me,
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ใ€ YouTube ใซไปปใ›ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€
04:48
I might be waiting forever.
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็งใฏๆฐธ้ ใซๅพ…ใคใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:50
So I am relying on you.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’้ ผใ‚Šใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚“ใชใซ็ด ๆ•ตใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’
04:52
Please help me by giving me
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็งใซไธŽใˆใฆๅŠฉใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„
04:57
a lovely like that would be ever so nice.
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ใ€‚ ๅ…ˆใปใฉใ‚‚
05:02
As I mentioned, we have made it all the way to the end of another weekend
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่ฟฐในใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ใพใŸ้€ฑๆœซใŒ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซ่ฟ‘ใฅใ„ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€
05:07
and I suppose we could say it is also the end of the week.
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ไปŠ้€ฑใ‚‚็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใ ใจ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:11
And we are also approaching a new month as well.
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ใใ—ใฆใพใŸๆ–ฐใŸใชๆœˆใ‚’่ฟŽใˆใพใ™ใ€‚ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ
05:17
It's Sunday
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ๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใงใ™
05:32
and I'm already noticing technical problems.
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ใŒใ€ใ™ใงใซๆŠ€่ก“็š„ใชๅ•้กŒใซๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:39
For some reason, the camera that Mr.
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ใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใ‹ใ€
05:41
Steve will be using is not working
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใŒไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใŒๆ•…้šœใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€
05:44
and I'm a little worried,
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05:48
to say the least.
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ๆŽงใˆใ‚ใซ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ๅฐ‘ใ—ๅฟƒ้…ใงใ™ใ€‚
05:49
I am slightly concerned.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—ๅฟƒ้…ใงใ™ใ€‚
05:51
How are you on this Sunday?
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ไปŠ้€ฑใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใฏใ„ใ‹ใŒใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
05:53
I will try to sort that out in a few moments because at the moment we don't have any camera for Mr.
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็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“็”จใฎโ€‹โ€‹ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใŒใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ•ด็†ใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
05:59
Steve.
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ใ€‚
06:00
It keeps breaking down and I don't know why.
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ๆ•…้šœใŒ็ถšใ„ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ๅŽŸๅ› ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
06:05
I have no idea why.
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็†็”ฑใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็ด„ 15 ๅˆ†ไปฅๅ†…ใซ
06:07
We will find out if it's working
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ๅ‹•ไฝœใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™
06:10
in around about 15 minutes time.
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ใ€‚
06:13
I will give you the warning right now that Mr.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใŒๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใฎใงใ€ใ™ใใซ่ญฆๅ‘Šใ—ใพใ™
06:15
Steve is on his way.
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ใ€‚
06:19
So, yes, Mr.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใฏใ„ใ€
06:20
Steve will be here in around about 15 minutes.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฏ็ด„ 15 ๅˆ†ไปฅๅ†…ใซใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
06:23
For those wondering, he will be right here
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็–‘ๅ•ใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€ๅฝผใฏใ“ใ“
06:27
on YouTube telling us all about his amazing week
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YouTube ใงๅฝผใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ไธ€้€ฑ้–“ใซใคใ„ใฆใ€
06:30
and what is going on in the world of Mr.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใฎไธ–็•Œใงไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’็งใŸใกใซ่ชžใฃใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™
06:34
Steve.
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06:35
So all of that coming very soon as well.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใ‚‚ใ™ใใซๅฎŸ็พใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:39
Hello also to the live chat.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใซใ‚‚ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚
06:42
we have the live chat working.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใฏๆฉŸ่ƒฝใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:44
Hello, live chat.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใงใ™ใ€‚
06:46
How nice to see you here.
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ใ“ใ“ใงใŠไผšใ„ใงใใฆๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
06:48
A lot of people joining in already.
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ใ™ใงใซใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎไบบใŒๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:50
We have Vitesse.
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ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒ†ใƒƒใ‚ปใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ
06:52
We also have Lewis Mandela
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ใƒซใ‚คใ‚นใƒปใƒžใƒณใƒ‡ใƒฉใ‚‚
06:57
is here today, Beatrice.
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ๆฅใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ€‚
07:01
We will be talking about Beatrice in a few moments from now.
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ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๅพŒใปใฉใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚
07:07
Maria is here as well.
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ใƒžใƒชใ‚ขใ‚‚ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:09
We also have her seen I don't know where you're watching at the moment,
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็งใŸใกใ‚‚ๅฝผๅฅณใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ไปŠใฉใ“ใง่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
07:14
but hello, anyway, it's nice to see you here live.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใ“ใ“ใง็”ŸใงใŠไผšใ„ใงใใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
07:18
We are live now at 2:19 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon.
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็พๅœจใ€ๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใฎๅˆๅพŒ 2 ๆ™‚ 19 ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰็”Ÿๆ”พ้€ไธญใงใ™ใ€‚
07:24
Soon, as I mentioned a few moments ago, we are approaching the end of January.
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้–“ใ‚‚ใชใใ€ๅ…ˆใปใฉใ‚‚ใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ 1ๆœˆใ‚‚็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซ่ฟ‘ใฅใใพใ™ใ€‚
07:30
February is on the horizon.
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2ๆœˆใŒ็›ฎๅ‰ใซ่ฟซใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:34
It's only a short month, which is good really,
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€
07:37
because I don't like February, to be honest with you.
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็งใฏ 2 ๆœˆใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใ“ใฎ 1 ใ‹ๆœˆใฏ็Ÿญใ„ใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
07:41
I don't really like January very much either.
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็งใ‚‚1ๆœˆใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅฅฝใใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:45
I don't like February.
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็งใฏ2ๆœˆใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:46
I don't know why.
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็†็”ฑใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ€‚ ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€
07:47
It still feels as if winter is hanging around, to be honest.
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ใพใ ๅ†ฌใŒ ่ฟ‘ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆฐ—ใŒใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:53
So I'm not a big fan of February.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏ2ๆœˆใฎๅคงใƒ•ใ‚กใƒณใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
07:56
I do like March. I have to say
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็งใฏ3ๆœˆใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
08:00
as soon as March arrives, I cheer up
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3ๆœˆใŒๆฅใ‚‹ใจใ™ใใซๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใŒๅ‡บใฆใ€
08:04
and I feel much better about everything
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08:07
but January and February.
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1ๆœˆใจ2ๆœˆไปฅๅค–ใฏใšใฃใจๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
08:10
I don't like them very much at all.
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใŒใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅฅฝใใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:14
Hello, Duong Duong Hoang English.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใ‚บใ‚ชใƒณใƒปใ‚บใ‚ชใƒณใƒปใƒ›ใ‚ขใƒณใƒปใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฐใƒชใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใงใ™ใ€‚
08:17
Hello to you. Also we have Glenda.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚ ใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒณใƒ€ใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:20
Hello Glenda.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒณใƒ€ใ€‚
08:21
I like your name by the way.
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ใกใชใฟใซ็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅๅ‰ใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
08:24
It sounds very British.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚น็š„ใช้Ÿฟใใงใ™ใญใ€‚
08:26
And we did have an actress called Glenda Jackson.
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ใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒณใƒ€ใƒปใ‚ธใƒฃใ‚ฏใ‚ฝใƒณใจใ„ใ†ๅฅณๅ„ชใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:32
So her name was Glenda.
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ใใ‚Œใงๅฝผๅฅณใฎๅๅ‰ใฏใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒณใƒ€ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:34
Also, we have
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ใพใŸใ€
08:36
Pedro Belmont is here as well.
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ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใƒปใƒ™ใƒซใƒขใƒณใƒˆใ‚‚ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:40
Hello, Pedro Amiel here.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใƒปใ‚ขใƒŸใ‚จใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚
08:43
We also have now, this is confusing.
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ไปŠใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆททไนฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:47
We have yes, we have Emilio.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใ‚จใƒŸใƒชใ‚ชใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:49
Emilio Lopez.
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ใ‚จใƒŸใƒชใ‚ชใƒปใƒญใƒšใ‚นใ€‚
08:51
Very nice to see you back. Also,
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ใพใŸใŠไผšใ„ใงใใฆใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
08:55
Palmira is here.
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ใƒ‘ใƒซใƒŸใƒฉใ‚‚ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:57
And I suppose I should ask, how is your ankle?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€่ถณ้ฆ–ใฎ่ชฟๅญใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใจ่žใ„ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
09:03
Is it feeling better?
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ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใฏ่‰ฏใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
09:04
I hope you are on the mend, Tom.
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ใƒˆใƒ ใ€ๅ›žๅพฉใซๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
09:08
Tom Rocks.
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ใƒˆใƒ ใƒปใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใ€‚
09:12
Very nice to see you here as well.
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ใ“ใกใ‚‰ใงใ‚‚ใŠไผšใ„ใงใใฆใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
09:14
And Maffia is here, and that is it for now.
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ใใ—ใฆใƒžใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ‚‚ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ไปŠใฎใจใ“ใ‚ใฏใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
09:17
Thank you very much for joining me.
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ใ”ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใฆ่ช ใซใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
09:19
It's lovely to be with you live on YouTube.
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YouTube ใงใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใงใ”ไธ€็ท’ใงใใฆใจใฆใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
09:25
For those who want to follow the live captions,
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’่ฟฝใ„ใŸใ„ไบบใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€
09:28
there are live captions.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
09:31
They might not be completely accurate, but they are there anyway.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏๅฎŒๅ…จใซๆญฃ็ขบใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ ใจใซใ‹ใใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
09:37
If you want to use the live captions.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใ€‚
09:40
We had a very busy week by the way, Mr.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏ้žๅธธใซๅฟ™ใ—ใ„ไธ€้€ฑ้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:43
Steve and myself,
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใจ
09:45
we were both away
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็งใฏไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚ไธๅœจใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใฎๅˆฅใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใ‚’
09:47
and I decided to have a look around a different part of the UK.
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่ฆ‹ใฆๅ›žใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ—ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
09:53
In fact, I was in a place that I've never been to before.
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ๅฎŸใฏใ€ ่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใฎใชใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚ ่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใฎใชใ„
09:58
Isn't it exciting when you travel somewhere to a place that you'd never been to before?
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ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซๆ—…่กŒใซ่กŒใใจใƒฏใ‚ฏใƒฏใ‚ฏใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹ ๏ผŸ
10:03
Well, guess what?
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10:05
This week I went to a place that I've never been to before.
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ไปŠ้€ฑใฏ ไปŠใพใง่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใฎใชใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใธ่กŒใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:10
But now I have.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ไปŠใฏใใ†ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:12
I have been there
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10:16
this week we went to Liverpool.
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ไปŠ้€ฑใฏใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซ่กŒใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:18
Would you like to have a look around Liverpool?
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ใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆๅ›žใฃใฆใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ
10:20
Because Liverpool is well known for many things.
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ใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใฏๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใงใ‚ˆใ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:14
and there it was, a short video
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€
12:18
that I filmed last week because I was in Liverpool, a place
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ๅ…ˆ้€ฑใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใพใง่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใฎใชใ„ใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซใ„ใŸใŸใ‚ใซๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ—ใŸ็Ÿญใ„ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงใ—ใŸ
12:23
that I've never been to before.
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12:27
But now I can safely say that I have been to Liverpool and it's great.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ไปŠใงใฏใ€ใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ—ใ€็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใจใ“ใ‚ใ ใฃใŸใจๅฎ‰ๅ…จใซ่จ€ใˆใพใ™ ใ€‚
12:31
It's a, it's a very interesting place.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:33
Lots of nice things to see.
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็ด ๆ•ตใชใ‚‚ใฎใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
12:35
Of course it is right by a very famous river called the Mersey.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ ใƒžใƒผใ‚ธใƒผๅทใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹้žๅธธใซๆœ‰ๅใชๅทใฎใ™ใใใฐใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
12:40
So a lot of people talk about the Mersey,
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒใƒžใƒผใ‚ธใƒผใ€
12:44
the Mersey Canal or the Mersey River,
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ใƒžใƒผใ‚ธใƒผ้‹ๆฒณใ€ใƒžใƒผใ‚ธใƒผๅทใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใ€
12:48
and the whole area is named Mersey side.
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ใ“ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸๅ…จไฝ“ใŒใƒžใƒผใ‚ธใƒผใ‚ตใ‚คใƒ‰ใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
12:54
So when they talk about Merseyside, they are talking about all of the areas
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใƒžใƒผใ‚ธใƒผใ‚ตใ‚คใƒ‰ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใƒžใƒผใ‚ธใƒผๅทใซ่ฟ‘ใ„ใ™ในใฆใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™
12:59
that are near to the Mersey.
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13:03
We will show that again a little bit later on.
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ€ๅฐ‘ใ—ๅพŒใงใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใŠ่ฆ‹ใ›ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:05
Don't worry, just in case you missed it, we will show it again.
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ๅฟƒ้…ใ—ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚่ฆ‹้€ƒใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใซๅ‚™ใˆใฆใ€ ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆ่กจ็คบใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:09
Very nice to see Giovani here today.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใ“ใ“ใงใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒ‹ใซไผšใˆใฆใจใฆใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
13:14
Hello, Giovani, Thank you very much for joining us today.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒ‹ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ”ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใฆ่ช ใซใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:18
It's always nice to see you here.
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ใ“ใ“ใงใŠไผšใ„ใงใใฆใ„ใคใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
13:20
Don't forget to give me a lovely like as well, if you like this,
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็ด ๆ•ตใชใ€Œใ„ใ„ใญ๏ผใ€ใ‚‚ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใšใซใ€ ใ‚‚ใ—ๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€
13:23
please give me a like as well.
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็งใซใ‚‚ใ€Œใ„ใ„ใญ๏ผใ€ใ‚’ใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:27
Here is your five minute warning, Mr.
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5 ๅˆ†ๅ‰ใซ่ญฆๅ‘Šใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:31
Steve
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฏ
13:33
will be with us in around about 5 minutes from now.
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ไปŠใ‹ใ‚‰็ด„ 5 ๅˆ†ไปฅๅ†…ใซๅˆฐ็€ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎ็†็”ฑใง
13:37
If I can get his camera to work
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ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใŒๅ‹•ไฝœใ—ใชใใชใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ๅฝผใฎใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ๅ‹•ไฝœใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚Œใฐ
13:42
because for some reason it stopped working.
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13:46
And now I have to work out why Mr.
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13:49
Steve's camera isn't working.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใŒๅ‹•ไฝœใ—ใชใ„็†็”ฑใ‚’่งฃๆ˜Žใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
13:51
And to be honest with you, it is Steve's fault
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€
13:56
because he wanted to look better on camera.
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ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใซใ‚‚ใฃใจใ‚ˆใๆ˜ ใ‚ใ†ใจใ—ใŸใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฎใ›ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
13:59
So I've changed the camera and now it doesn't work properly.
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ใใ“ใงใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ไบคๆ›ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ ๆญฃๅธธใซๅ‹•ไฝœใ—ใชใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
14:04
So I'm using a different camera and it doesn't work properly,
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใฏๅˆฅใฎใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๆญฃใ—ใๅ‹•ไฝœใ—ใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–
14:07
so I'm going to try and put that right before Mr.
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ใ•ใ‚“ใŒไปŠๆ—ฅๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™
14:10
Steve comes on and joins us today.
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14:15
So all of that coming up. We have a lot of things to talk about.
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ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ€ใ™ในใฆใŒใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
14:17
We are talking about supermarkets going to the supermarket.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซ่กŒใใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
14:22
Is there a supermarket near your house?
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅฎถใฎ่ฟ‘ใใซใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
14:25
Is there a place where you can go to that is very convenient to buy your things?
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็‰ฉใ‚’่ฒทใ†ใฎใซใจใฆใ‚‚ไพฟๅˆฉใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
14:33
We are talking all about that.
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็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใ™ในใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:35
In a few minutes, Mr.
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ๆ•ฐๅˆ†ไปฅๅ†…ใซ
14:37
Steve will be with us and yes, we will be talking to Mr.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใŒๅˆฐ็€ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใฏใ„ใ€
14:42
Steve in a few moments from now.
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ไปŠใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ•ฐๅˆ†ไปฅๅ†…ใซใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใจใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:18
English addict is with you today.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ่‹ฑ่ชžไธญๆฏ’่€…ใŒใ‚ใชใŸใจไธ€็ท’ใงใ™ใ€‚
16:20
I hope you are feeling good.
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ใ”ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’้ก˜ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:22
And yes, I have managed to fix Mr.
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16:25
Steve's camera, so Mr.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ใชใ‚“ใจใ‹ไฟฎ็†ใงใใŸใฎใงใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฏ
16:27
Steve will be joining us in a couple of minutes from now.
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ไปŠใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ•ฐๅˆ†ๅพŒใซๅˆๆตใ™ใ‚‹ไบˆๅฎšใงใ™ใ€‚
16:33
Did you like that?
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
16:34
I was playing in the snow there.
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ใใ“ใง้›ช้Šใณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
16:37
We haven't had any snow.
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้›ชใฏ้™ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:38
The weather this winter, I have to say the weather this winter
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ใ“ใฎๅ†ฌใฎๅคฉๆฐ—ใฏใ€ๆŽงใˆใ‚ใซ ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€
16:42
has been a little bit crazy, to say the least.
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ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ็‹‚ใฃใŸๅคฉๆฐ—ใ ใฃใŸใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
16:46
We've had a lot of rain.
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้›จใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“้™ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
16:48
Then we had some freezing weather
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ใใฎๅพŒใ€ๅ‡ใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅคฉๆฐ—ใŒ็ถšใใ€
16:51
and then we had a little bit of snow, but not much.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ ใ‘้›ชใŒ้™ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
16:55
And then it went warm.
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ใใ—ใฆๆš–ใ‹ใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
16:57
And next week apparently it's going to be freezing cold again.
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ใใ—ใฆๆฅ้€ฑใฏ ใพใŸๅฏ’ใใชใ‚‹ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
17:02
So we might actually get some real winter weather next week.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ๆฅ้€ฑใซใฏๆœฌๆ ผ็š„ใชๅ†ฌใฎๅคฉๆฐ—ใŒ่จชใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
17:09
So we will see what happens today.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
17:11
We are looking at supermarkets.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใ‚’ๆคœ่จŽใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:13
We are also looking at words, phrases, slang
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ใพใŸใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏไฝฟ็”จใ—ใชใใชใฃใŸๅ˜่ชžใ€ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใ€ใ‚นใƒฉใƒณใ‚ฐใซใ‚‚ๆณจ็›ฎใ—ใพใ™
17:18
that we don't really use anymore.
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17:21
However, some people do use occasionally,
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ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ใŸใพใซไฝฟใ†ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€
17:25
so lots of slang word slang terms from the past.
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้ŽๅŽปใฎไฟ—่ชžใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅ‡บใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚
17:31
Some of them you might recognise and some of them you might not recognise.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎไธญใซใฏใ€่ฆ‹่ฆšใˆใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚‚ ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€่ฆ‹่ฆšใˆใฎใชใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
17:38
So all of that coming up later on as well.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ™ในใฆๅพŒใปใฉ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:40
Here in the UK, by the way, we've been debating a couple of things.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใ“ใ“่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏใ€ ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:45
Now this is not official,
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๅ…ฌๅผใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
17:48
but one or two people have started talking about bringing back
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ใŒใ€1 ไบบใพใŸใฏ 2 ไบบใฎไบบใŒ็‰นๅฎšใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆˆปใ™ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
17:53
certain things, two things in fact, both of them
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ 2 ใคใฎใ‚‚ใฎใงใ€ใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚
18:00
could be rather unpleasant for those involved.
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้–ขไฟ‚่€…ใซใจใฃใฆใ‹ใชใ‚Šไธๅฟซใชใ‚‚ใฎใซใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
18:03
More about that later on.
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๅพŒใปใฉ่ฉณใ—ใ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
18:06
Steve will be here.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใพใ™ใ€‚
18:07
I am going to go over to Mr.
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18:10
Steve in a moment, but first we'll have another break and then we will see what Mr.
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ใ™ใใซใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎใจใ“ใ‚ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใŒใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใซใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆไผ‘ๆ†ฉใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€
18:16
Steve is doing today.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใŒไปŠๆ—ฅไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
18:18
But first of all, would you like to see some sheep you would like?
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ใงใ‚‚ใพใšใฏใ€ใŠ็›ฎๅฝ“ใฆใฎ็พŠใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹ ๏ผŸ
18:24
Let's all take a look
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ใฟใ‚“ใชใง่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€
19:49
Oh deer.
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้นฟใ‚ˆใ€‚
19:51
I love those sheep so much.
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ็พŠใŒใจใฆใ‚‚ๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
19:53
They are rather cute. Don't you think
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ใ‚€ใ—ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใŒๆฅใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹
19:58
he is coming?
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19:59
Are you ready, everyone? He is on his way.
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ๆบ–ๅ‚™ใฏใงใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ๅฝผใฏๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:03
The man who everyone loves
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่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒ
20:07
to watch, talk about,
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่ฆ‹ใŸใ‚Šใ€่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€
20:10
and sometimes even chase around the front garden
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ๆ™‚ใซใฏๆœใ‚’็€ใšใซๅ‰ๅบญใ‚’่ฟฝใ„ใ‹ใ‘ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใช็”ทใงใ™
20:14
without any clothes on.
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20:17
Mr. Steve is on his way.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฏๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:19
Are you ready for him? There he is.
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ๅฝผใ‚’่ฟŽใˆใ‚‹ๆบ–ๅ‚™ใฏใงใใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใใ“ใซๅฝผใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚
20:22
Freaking out.
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20:23
Freaking out. it's okay, Steve. You're not on yet.
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ๆ€–ใŒใ‚‰ใ€‚ ๅคงไธˆๅคซใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚ ใพใ ๅง‹ใพใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
20:26
It's okay.
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20:30
So there he is.
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20:30
Look freaking out on the screen.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๅฝผใฏใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
็”ป้ขไธŠใงใณใฃใใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆง˜ๅญใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใŒ
20:32
Just to give you an idea of the sort of person Mr.
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ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชไบบ็‰ฉใชใฎใ‹ใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ ใ‘่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใฆใŠใใจ
20:34
Steve is, For those who don't know him, you are in for such a treat because
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ใ€ๅฝผใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ไบบใซใจใฃใฆใฏใ€
20:40
here he is right now.
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ๅฝผใฏไปŠใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
20:47
Hello, everyone.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚
20:49
Hello, Mr. Duncan. Hello.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚
20:50
Wonderful viewers from across the globe and across the universe.
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ไธ–็•Œไธญใ€ใใ—ใฆๅฎ‡ๅฎ™ใ‹ใ‚‰้›†ใพใฃใŸ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„่ฆ–่ด่€…ใŸใก ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€ๅคช้™ฝ็ณปไธญใฎ
20:55
I'm sure we've got people watching us in planets all over the solar system, Mr.
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ๆƒ‘ๆ˜Ÿใงใ€ใใ—ใฆใฏใ‚‹ใ‹้ ใใพใงใ€็งใŸใกใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
20:59
Duncan, and far and wide. Good.
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21:04
Well, I'm in a different shirt today, Mr.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ้•ใ†ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’็€ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€
21:07
Duncan.
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21:07
I'm in my sort of prison shirt, as I like to call it.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
็งใฏใ€ใ„ใ‚ใ‚†ใ‚‹ๅ›šไบบๆœใ‚’็€ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:10
Looks like I've behind bars.
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ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใ‚‰็งใฏๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:12
I like this shirt.
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
21:14
You look like a new stand.
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ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒณใƒ‰ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
21:16
You know, when they used to put the the newspapers behind behind
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ๆ˜”ใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒ็ฐกๅ˜ใซๆŽดใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใฎ ๅพŒใ‚ใซๆ–ฐ่žใ‚’็ฝฎใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
21:20
a thing that people could grab very easily.
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21:23
You look like one of those.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚ใใฎไธ€ไบบใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
21:24
Anyway, let's let's join.
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ใจใซใ‹ใๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
21:26
Let's join together now.
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ไปŠใ™ใใ”ไธ€็ท’ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
21:29
There we are.
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21:29
We are now together on screen.
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็งใŸใกใฏไปŠใ€็”ป้ขไธŠใงไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:32
I don't know why I think I've decided that Mr.
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21:36
Steve is really that killer. Because.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆฎบไบบ่€…ใ ใจๆฑบใ‚ใคใ‘ใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎ้ก”ใฎ่‰ฒใ‚’ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹
21:39
Because I've tried everything to change the colour of Mr.
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ใŸใ‚ใซใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€
21:42
Steve's face and I can't change it.
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ๅค‰ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:45
So I'm starting to think, Steve, that that might be your actual killer.
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ใใ‚Œใง็งใฏใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŒใŒ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๆœฌๅฝ“ใฎๆฎบไบบ่€…ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ๅง‹ใ‚ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:49
Yes, maybe. I'm. Maybe.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ€‚ ๅคšๅˆ†ใ€‚
21:51
Maybe I've got high blood pressure, Mr. Duncan.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰็งใฏ้ซ˜่ก€ๅœงใชใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
21:53
It wouldn't surprise me, but I can't really see it.
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้ฉšใ‹ใชใ„ใ‘ใฉใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ่ฆ‹ใˆใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:55
So what do other people think too?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ไป–ใฎไบบใ‚‚ใฉใ†ๆ€ใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ”
21:58
Do I look a funny colour on your screens at home and your tablets and laptops?
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่‡ชๅฎ…ใฎใ‚ฟใƒ–ใƒฌใƒƒใƒˆใ‚„ใƒฉใƒƒใƒ—ใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—ใฎ็”ป้ขใงใฏใ€็งใฎ่‰ฒใฏใŠใ‹ใ—ใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ ?
22:04
Well, this is.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใŒๆœ€ใ‚‚่‡ช็„ถใช่‰ฒใ‚’ๅ†็พใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅŠชใ‚ใŸใฎใง
22:05
This is your natural colour now, because I've tried to get the camera
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22:09
to reproduce the most natural colour.
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22:13
Because the other week you were complaining that you looked strange on camera but now,
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ๅ…ˆ้€ฑใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใซๆ˜ ใ‚‹่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใจไธๅนณใ‚’่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใซใ€
22:18
now I'm using my lovely big DSLR camera, which is professional quality.
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ไปŠใฏใƒ—ใƒญๅ“่ณชใฎ็ด ๆ•ตใชๅคงใใชใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซไธ€็œผใƒฌใƒ•ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ ใ€‚
22:23
So whatever you look like right now, that that is definitely what you look like.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒไปŠใฉใ‚“ใชๅงฟใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ ใใ‚ŒใŒ้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅงฟใชใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
22:29
Steve It's up to the viewers. Yeah.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ– ใใ‚Œใฏ่ฆ–่ด่€…ๆฌก็ฌฌใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
22:31
Do I look a strange colour or do I look normal?
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็งใฎ่‰ฒใฏๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ๆ™ฎ้€šใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ‹?
22:35
Well, if, if, if it's not suitable this time,
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ€ไปŠๅ›žใŒไธ้ฉๅˆ‡ใ ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€
22:38
we will just have to put a plastic bag over your head or something.
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ใƒ“ใƒ‹ใƒผใƒซ่ข‹ใ‚’ ้ ญใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‹ใถใ›ใ‚‹ใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ„ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
22:43
I guess I'm shocked by the way.
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ใกใชใฟใซใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:46
He's very busy. It is very busy.
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ๅฝผใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฟ™ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฟ™ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
22:48
People are saying they remember this shirt from earlier live chat years ago.
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ไบบใ€…ใฏใ€ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚ๅ‰ใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใงใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใพใ‚‹ใง
22:53
I look like I'm in Honolulu in Hawaii, says Giovanni Olivetti.
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ใƒใƒฏใ‚คใฎใƒ›ใƒŽใƒซใƒซใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฟใŸใ„ใ ใจ ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใƒปใ‚ชใƒชใƒ™ใƒƒใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:58
we were in Liverpool this week.
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ไปŠ้€ฑ็งใŸใกใฏใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:03
Do you know that?
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23:04
What? Giovanni was in Liverpool.
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ไฝ•๏ผŸ ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใฏใƒชใƒดใ‚กใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซใ„ใŸใ€‚
23:06
Giovanni was in Liverpool.
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23:08
You were in Liverpool this week.
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23:10
I can't believe it.
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23:11
And you didn't come and say hello.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆŒจๆ‹ถใซใ‚‚ๆฅใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:13
Well, why didn't you say hello? Why didn't you find us?
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใชใœๆŒจๆ‹ถใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใชใœ็งใŸใกใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
23:16
Why didn't you hunt us down?
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ใชใœ็งใŸใกใ‚’่ฟฝใ„่ฉฐใ‚ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
23:19
Yes, because Mr. Duncan did a live stream.
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23:22
I didn't do a live stream.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–้…ไฟกใฏใ‚„ใฃใฆใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
23:25
no, you didn't. No, no, I did not.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅคฉๆฐ—ใŒๆ‚ชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใง
23:27
I did one in the hotel room because the weather was dreadful.
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ใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใฎ้ƒจๅฑ‹ใงๆ’ฎใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
23:31
So we went to Liverpool and the weather was absolutely dreadful.
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ใใ‚Œใงใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ ใŒใ€ๅคฉๆฐ—ใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใฒใฉใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:36
We had one of the worst storms ever,
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23:40
storms something.
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23:42
And we were very near to the Jocelyn.
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ธใƒงใ‚ปใƒชใƒณใฎใ™ใ่ฟ‘ใใซใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:44
So we had Jocelyn and there was a lot of Jocelyn.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ‚ธใƒงใ‚ปใƒชใƒณใŒใ„ใฆใ€ใ‚ธใƒงใ‚ปใƒชใƒณใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
23:51
Do you like that?
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
23:52
So Jocelyn, Jocelyn means to be moved
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ธใƒงใ‚ปใƒชใƒณใ€ใ‚ธใƒงใ‚ปใƒชใƒณใจใฏใ€ๆšดๅŠ›็š„ใซๅ‹•ใๅ›žใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™
23:55
around in a in a violent way.
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23:59
Jostle You push and you shove,
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24:02
you jostle and it was storm.
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ๆŠผใ—ๅˆใฃใฆใ€ๅตใซใชใฃใŸใ€‚
24:05
Jocelyn So that's and then of course we had Aisha as well.
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ใ‚ธใƒงใ‚ปใƒชใƒณ ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ‚ขใ‚คใ‚ทใƒฃใ‚‚ใ„ใŸใ‚ˆใ€‚
24:09
Was that a storm? Aisha as well.
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ใ‚ใ‚Œใฏๅตใงใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ ใ‚ขใ‚คใ‚ทใƒฃใ‚‚ใ€‚
24:12
So, so lots of storms.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๅตใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
24:13
Jocelyn is a name as well, isn't it?
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ใ‚ธใƒงใ‚ปใƒชใƒณใฃใฆๅๅ‰ใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
24:16
Somebody is somebody is a first name, is it. Yes.
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒ่ชฐใ‹ใŒใƒ•ใ‚กใƒผใ‚นใƒˆใƒใƒผใƒ ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
24:20
Well, well, the spelling is completely different as well.
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ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ ใ‚นใƒšใƒซใ‚‚ๅ…จ็„ถ้•ใ„ใพใ™ใญใ€‚
24:22
I know you were playing on words, Mr. Duncan.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่จ€่‘‰้Šใณใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใซๆŒจๆ‹ถ
24:25
It was my little pen, as they say hello to the live chat.
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ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใฎๅฐใ•ใชใƒšใƒณใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
24:30
we have Olga here as well.
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ใ“ใ“ใซใ‚‚ใ‚ชใƒซใ‚ฌใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
24:33
Leanne, there is here.
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ใƒชใƒผใƒณใ€ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ€‚
24:34
We'll make America great again.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใ‚’ๅ†ใณๅ‰ๅคงใชๅ›ฝใซใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
24:38
I get the feeling that
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24:42
that Leanne might be
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ใ‚ใฎใƒชใ‚ขใƒณใฏใ€
24:45
interested in a certain
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24:46
contest that is taking place later this year.
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ไปŠๅนดๅพŒๅŠใซ้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใ‚นใƒˆใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใกใใ†ใชๆฐ—ใŒใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
24:51
I think one thing's for certain.
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็ขบใ‹ใชใ“ใจใŒ1ใคใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
24:53
It'll certainly be interesting if he gets back into power.
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ๅฝผใŒๆ”ฟๆจฉใซๆˆปใฃใŸใ‚‰็ขบใ‹ใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
24:58
Well, did you know, Steve, this year,
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ใ•ใฆใ€็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‹ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ไปŠๅนดใ€
25:01
half of the population of this planet
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ๅœฐ็ƒไธŠใฎไบบๅฃใฎๅŠๅˆ†ใŒ
25:05
is going to vote for a new government right?
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ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๆ”ฟๅบœใซๆŠ•็ฅจใ™ใ‚‹ไบˆๅฎšใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ?
25:09
So this is I don't think this has happened for a long time.
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ ้•ทใ„้–“่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
25:12
So it's it's something like five.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€5ใคใใ‚‰ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
25:15
No. What is it?
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ไปŠๅนดใฏ
25:18
I think it's I want to say two, four or 5 billion people
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20ๅ„„ไบบใ€40ๅ„„ไบบใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏ50ๅ„„ไบบใŒ
25:24
will be voting this year for another or new government.
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25:29
So they will all be going to vote for
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็š†ใ€
25:33
whoever they like to rule their country and the Paris half the planet,
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅ›ฝ ใจๅœฐ็ƒใฎๅŠๅˆ†ใฎใƒ‘ใƒชใ‚’็ตฑๆฒปใ—ใŸใ„ไบบใซๆŠ•็ฅจใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
25:38
including here, of course, in the USA,
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใ“ใ€ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใ‚‚ๅซใ‚ใฆใงใ™ใ€‚
25:42
because we will be going to the polls
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใฏๆŠ•็ฅจใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซๆŠ•็ฅจๆ‰€ใซ่กŒใใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ—ใ€
25:45
to vote and at the moment we don't know when it will be.
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็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใใ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒใ„ใคใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
25:50
Some people seem to think it's going to be July, but I,
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7ๆœˆใซใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใŒใ€
25:53
I think it will be later than that
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ‚Š้…ใใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
25:57
because I think they will have the election here in the UK.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ ใ“ใ“ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใงใฏ้ธๆŒ™ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
26:02
At the same time is the election in the United States
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ๅŒๆ™‚ใซ็ฑณๅ›ฝใงใฏ้ธๆŒ™ใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ€
26:07
and that will cause lots of lovely confusion and no one will know what is going on.
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ๅคšใใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๆททไนฑใŒๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ•ใ‚Œ ใ€ไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹่ชฐใ‚‚ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
26:12
So I think that is more likely to happen.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ†ใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒ้ซ˜ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:14
So I think we might end up with an election taking place here
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซใฏ็ฑณๅ›ฝใง่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹้ธๆŒ™ใจๅŒๆ™‚ๆœŸใซใ“ใ“ใงใ‚‚้ธๆŒ™ใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
26:18
at the same time as the one that will be taking place in the United States.
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26:23
And I think both of them will be very eventful indeed.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‚‚ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ้žๅธธใซๆณขไนฑใซๅฏŒใ‚“ใ ใ‚‚ใฎใซใชใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:27
I think so.
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26:28
So that should be interesting.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้ข็™ฝใ„ใฏใšใงใ™ใ€‚
26:30
Thank you.
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26:30
Thank you very much for that.
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ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚ ่ช ใซ
ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:32
No, Mr. Duncan, I meant that Mr.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ€
26:34
Duncan at all the live chat, perhaps Duncan didn't tell you
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ– ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆไธญใฎใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใŠใใ‚‰ใใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใฏใ€
26:38
that the video in the port was hilarious with lots of laughs.
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ๆธฏใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใŒ็ฌ‘ใ„ใŒ ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅ‡บใฆ้™ฝๆฐ—ใ ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ใ‚ใชใŸใซไผใˆใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
26:43
When I come to England, I will let you know for sure.
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็งใŒใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใซๆฅใŸใ‚‰ใ€ๅฟ…ใšใŠ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ›ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:47
yes, because I did make a video near the port in the wind.
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ใฏใ„ใ€้ขจใฎๅนใๆธฏใฎ่ฟ‘ใใงใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆ’ฎใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ ใ€‚
26:52
And it was it was dreadful.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
26:54
It was so dreadful.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆใ‚ใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
26:56
I had to hold onto the camera sometimes
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26:59
because it almost got blown away by the wind.
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้ขจใงใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใŒ้ฃ›ใฐใ•ใ‚Œใใ†ใซใชใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ๆŽดใพใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
27:02
So no, I haven't seen it. Giovanni.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใ€‚
27:04
I haven't actually seen that.
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27:07
You know what happens sometimes?
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ๆ™‚ใ€…ไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
27:08
Sometimes I actually forget things that I've done.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒใ‚„ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
27:12
And last week was such a busy week.
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ใใ—ใฆๅ…ˆ้€ฑใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฟ™ใ—ใ„ไธ€้€ฑ้–“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
27:16
There are so many things that I did last week
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ๅ…ˆ้€ฑใ‚„ใฃใŸใ“ใจใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
27:18
that I've actually forgotten about already.
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ใŒใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ™ใงใซๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
27:21
So we did just have a look at the views around Liverpool.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซๅ‘จ่พบใฎๆ™ฏ่‰ฒใ‚’็œบใ‚ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
27:25
Another thing I want to mention, Steve, is this week there was something taking place
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27:32
that I did not know about, but I did eventually
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27:37
find out all about.
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27:39
There was a secret
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27:43
rendezvous taking place.
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27:47
I What's Mr. Duncan?
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27:48
A secret rendezvous.
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27:51
A secret rendezvous.
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27:53
A secret meeting?
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27:54
Yes. So a rendezvous was taking place in Argentina.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ผใƒณใƒใƒณใงไผšๅˆใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
27:59
It was a different type of rendezvous.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใฎ็จฎ้กžใฎใƒฉใƒณใƒ‡ใƒ–ใƒผใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
28:03
So it wasn't the Paris rendezvous.
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28:06
It was the Argentina rendezvous.
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ใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ผใƒณใƒใƒณใจใฎใƒฉใƒณใƒ‡ใƒ–ใƒผใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
28:10
And there you can see Sandra Beatriz, Marcia and also Claudia,
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ใใ“ใซใฏใ€ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒปใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ€ใƒžใƒซใ‚ทใ‚ขใ€ ใใ—ใฆใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ€
28:16
as well as in What's cooking, Claudia?
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ใใ—ใฆใ€Œใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ€ๆ–™็†ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€ใซใ‚‚็™ปๅ ดใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
28:21
That Claudia.
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ใ‚ใฎใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
28:24
So can I say a big hello to Sandra, Beatriz, Marcia and also Claudia.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใƒฉใ€ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ€ใƒžใƒซใ‚ทใ‚ขใ€ใใ—ใฆใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใซๅคงใใชๆŒจๆ‹ถใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ ใ€‚
28:29
Because they were together, they had a little a rendezvous this week.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไธ€็ท’ใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ ไปŠ้€ฑๅฐ‘ใ—้€ขใ„ๅผ•ใใ‚’ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
28:36
And there you can see once again, there is Claudia, Marcia
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28:41
and Beatriz as well.
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ใ€ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
28:45
And it looks as if some food was also eaten as well.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚‚้ฃŸในใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
28:50
my goodness.
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28:52
That is a lot of salad.
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28:55
That's all I can say. That looks rather nice, actually.
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็งใŒ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใฎใฏใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š็ด ๆ•ตใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
28:58
So there is Beatriz and Marcella having a very nice meal.
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ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใจใƒžใƒซใ‚ปใƒฉใŒ ใจใฆใ‚‚็ด ๆ•ตใช้ฃŸไบ‹ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
29:04
So once again, a big shout out, a big hello to Sandra,
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29:09
Beatriz, Marcia and Claudia.
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ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ€ใƒžใƒซใ‚ทใ‚ขใ€ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใซๅคงๅฃฐใงๆŒจๆ‹ถใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
29:14
Isn't that wonderful?
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29:16
And thank you very much, Beatriz, for your lovely message as well that you sent to me
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ•ใ‚“ใ€ ็งใซ้€ใฃใฆใใ‚ŒใŸ็ด ๆ•ตใชใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใซใ‚‚ใ€
29:21
saying that everything that they do and the all of the
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29:25
all of the friends that she's made is all because of us, Mr.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใŒไฝœใฃใŸๅ‹้”ใฎใ™ในใฆใฏ ใ™ในใฆ็งใŸใกใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎใŠใ‹ใ’ใ ใจใ„ใ†็ด ๆ•ตใชใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
29:29
Steve. It's all because of us.
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ในใฆ็งใŸใกใฎใ›ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
29:34
We are responsible for it.
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏ็งใŸใกใŒ่ฒฌไปปใ‚’่ฒ ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
29:36
What a lovely picture.
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ใชใ‚“ใฆ็ด ๆ•ตใช็ตตใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
29:37
And it's lovely to see people
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29:40
who watch you regularly are meeting up,
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ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๅฎšๆœŸ็š„ใซ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ
29:44
really meeting as a result of your live streams.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–้…ไฟกใ‚’ใใฃใ‹ใ‘ใซ้›†ใพใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
29:49
And lots of people, as we know, our friends,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ็งใŸใกใฎๅ‹ไบบใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
29:53
not just within while we're doing live streams, but also outside.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹้–“ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€ ๅค–ใซใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
29:58
People are contacting each other.
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ไบบใ€…ใฏไบ’ใ„ใซ้€ฃ็ตกใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๅˆใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
30:01
We have the Paris meet with those other groups that we know that people meet up and
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็งใŸใกใฏใƒ‘ใƒชใงใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒๅ‡บไผšใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไป–ใฎใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใจไผšใ‚ใ›ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
30:06
and here's another one where people from one continent manage to meet each other.
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30:11
How far is it from Brazil to Argentina, I wonder?
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30:17
I think it's quite a long way.
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Š้•ทใ„้“ใฎใ‚Šใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ
30:19
I don't know that they're next to each other.
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้šฃใ‚Šๅˆใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
30:22
They're actually on the same landmass, are they South America?
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ๅฎŸใฏๅŒใ˜้™ธๅœฐใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ ๅ—็ฑณใชใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
30:27
yes. But I meant how far in distance?
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30:29
I know they're on the same continent, Mr. Duncan.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒๅŒใ˜ๅคง้™ธใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
30:32
Well, I suppose it by geography is reasonably good, I suppose.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ๅœฐ็†็š„ใซใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
30:36
Well, I don't know. I suppose.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€‚
30:39
I suppose it depends where they were actually in location.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฉใ“ใซใ„ใŸใ‹ใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
30:43
So which part of Brazil and what part of Argentina?
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30:48
I think I think Beatrice is in Sao Paolo.
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30:51
I might be wrong.
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30:53
I might be wrong.
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็งใฏ้–“้•ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
30:55
Venezuela is, Buenos Aires is. Did I say Sao Paolo?
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ใƒ™ใƒใ‚บใ‚จใƒฉใ‚‚ใƒ–ใ‚จใƒŽใ‚นใ‚ขใ‚คใƒฌใ‚นใ‚‚ใ€‚ ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‘ใ‚ฆใƒญใฃใฆ่จ€ใฃใŸใฃใ‘๏ผŸ
30:58
I'm getting my Brazil.
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็งใฏใƒ–ใƒฉใ‚ธใƒซใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:00
So Berlin is mixed up.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใƒ™ใƒซใƒชใƒณใฏๆททไนฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
31:02
So maybe maybe Beatrice can tell us or anybody else who's on is.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใŒ็งใŸใกใ‚„ไป–ใฎๅ‚ๅŠ ่€…ใซๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ ใ€‚
31:06
I haven't seen.
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่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
31:07
it's Ms..
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31:10
You're on today.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅ‡บๆผ”ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
31:11
And Sandra, Claudia,
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ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใƒฉใ€ใ‚ฏใƒญใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ€ใƒ–ใ‚จใƒŽใ‚นใ‚ขใ‚คใƒฌใ‚นใงใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใซไผšใ†ใพใงใซ
31:15
how far did you have to travel to, and how long did it take
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ใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎ่ท้›ขใ‚’็งปๅ‹•ใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ‹ใ€ใใ—ใฆใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ‹
31:19
you to get to see Beatrice in Buenos Aires?
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31:24
We would like to know.
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31:26
By the way, Giovanni says that he wants to hold your trip.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎๆ—…่กŒใ‚’ไฟ็•™ใ—ใŸใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:30
Not next time.
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ๆฌกๅ›žใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
31:33
That's a very good thank you for the offer you will be.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚่‰ฏใ„ใ‚ชใƒ•ใ‚กใƒผใ‚’ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:36
You might be surprised to find out how many people have made that offer to me over the years.
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ไฝ•ๅนดใซใ‚‚ใ‚ใŸใฃใฆใ€ใฉใ‚ŒใปใฉๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ็งใซใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช็”ณใ—ๅ‡บใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใŸใ‹ใ‚’็ŸฅใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€้ฉšใ‹ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
31:41
Quite a few people have offered to hold my tripod for me.
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Š ใฎไบบใŒ็งใฎไธ‰่„šใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใใ‚Œใจ็”ณใ—ๅ‡บใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
31:44
I'll tell you something, Giovanni.
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ไธ€ใค่จ€ใฃใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใ€‚
31:47
Mr. Duncan has a lot of tripod. I do.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใฏไธ‰่„šใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:49
I often joke that I can't get into Mr.
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31:54
Duncan studio because there are so many tripods.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚ธใ‚ชใซใฏไธ‰่„šใŒๅคšใ™ใŽใฆๅ…ฅใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€ใจๅ†—่ซ‡ใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
31:57
I did once actually count them
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ไธ€ๅบฆๅฎŸ้š›ใซๅ…จ้ƒจๆ•ฐใˆใฆใฟใŸใจใ“ใ‚
32:00
all, and I think there were 17.
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ใ€17ๅ€‹ใฏใ‚ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
32:03
Yes. One seven tripod. I think there's more now.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚ปใƒ–ใƒณไธ‰่„š1ๆœฌใ€‚ ไปŠใฏใ‚‚ใฃใจใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
32:06
I think there's more now.
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ไปŠใฏใ‚‚ใฃใจใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
32:07
That was a few years ago.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆ•ฐๅนดๅ‰ใฎใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
32:09
So there's a lot of tripods to hold.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ไธ‰่„šใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๆŒใกใพใ™ใ€‚
32:12
And I can tell
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32:13
you this, it's a trip hazard coming into Mr.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใฏ่จ€ใˆใพใ™ใŒใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚ธใ‚งใƒƒใƒˆๆฉŸใซใฏใคใพใšใๅฑ้™บใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
32:16
Duncan's jet. There's wires and cables everywhere.
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ใ€‚ ใฉใ“ใซใงใ‚‚ใƒฏใ‚คใƒคใƒผใ‚„ใ‚ฑใƒผใƒ–ใƒซใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
32:20
Yeah. And tripods.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆไธ‰่„šใ€‚
32:21
So in between Argentina and Brazil, there is Uruguay.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ผใƒณใƒใƒณใจใƒ–ใƒฉใ‚ธใƒซใฎ้–“ใซใฏใ‚ฆใƒซใ‚ฐใ‚ขใ‚คใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
32:27
You don't hear much about Uruguay, dear.
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ใ‚ฆใƒซใ‚ฐใ‚ขใ‚คใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Š่žใใพใ›ใ‚“ใญใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ€‚
32:30
We don't know of it.
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็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
32:32
I bet the people in Uruguay hear a lot about it, but they don't really do it here.
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ใ‚ฆใƒซใ‚ฐใ‚ขใ‚คใฎไบบใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚ˆใ่žใใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ใ“ใ“ใงใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
32:37
I'm sorry.
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ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚
32:39
I don't know what's going over my throat.
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ๅ–‰ใซไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
32:41
I think my voice box is falling to pieces.
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็งใฎใƒœใ‚คใ‚นใƒœใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใฏใฐใ‚‰ใฐใ‚‰ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
32:45
Yeah. So we just want to know.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใŸใกใฏใŸใ ็Ÿฅใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใ ใ‘ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
32:46
Yes. Yes, we do know, of course, that
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€
32:50
the interest that you're in Argentina, in Buenos Aires, Mr.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ผใƒณใƒใƒณใ‚„ใƒ–ใ‚จใƒŽใ‚นใ‚ขใ‚คใƒฌใ‚นใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™
32:54
Duncan just.
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32:55
Just had a little mental breakdown there.
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32:59
But what we want to know is how far he's not the only one.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ็Ÿฅใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€ ๅฝผใ ใ‘ใŒใฉใ‚Œใปใฉใใ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใฎใ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
33:04
How far is it from
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33:07
where Marcio lives, for example, or Claudia
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใƒžใƒซใ‚ทใ‚ชใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ‚„ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใƒฉใŒไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‹ใ‚‰
33:11
or Sandra to get to Buenos Aries?
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ใƒ–ใ‚จใƒŽใ‚นใ‚ขใ‚คใƒฌใ‚นใพใงใฏใฉใฎใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎ่ท้›ขใงใ™ใ‹?
33:16
Yeah, that's what we want.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใŒๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
33:18
here we go. 4 hours flying.
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ใ•ใ่กŒใ“ใ†ใ€‚ 4ๆ™‚้–“ใฎ้ฃ›่กŒใ€‚
33:20
Wow, That's a long time.
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ใ†ใ‚ใƒผใ€้•ทใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
33:23
San Paolo to Buenos Aires Is.
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ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‘ใ‚ฆใƒญใ‹ใ‚‰ใƒ–ใ‚จใƒŽใ‚นใ‚ขใ‚คใƒฌใ‚นๅณถใธใ€‚
33:26
Is 2200 kilometres or 4 hours.
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33:32
So, yes,
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33:34
it's a long way.
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33:34
But did she come on the plane or did she come on a bus or did she come on a train.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏ้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใงๆฅใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ‹ใ€ใƒใ‚นใงๆฅใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚้›ป่ปŠใงๆฅใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
33:40
We don't know because she's busy cooking.
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33:43
But yes, it would be.
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33:47
Well, wouldn't it be nice if we could go there one day, Mr.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ใ„ใคใ‹ใใ“ใซ่กŒใ‘ใŸใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€
33:49
Duncan?
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33:50
We might need an armed guard, but we would go.
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33:53
I would just be worried about being kidnapped.
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33:58
Maybe a van will draw up and a couple of people will get out
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใƒใƒณใŒๆฅใฆ ๆ•ฐไบบใŒ้™ใ‚Šใฆใใฆใ€
34:00
and throw us into the back and then hold us hostage.
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34:04
But the thing I'm worried about is that no
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34:07
one will want to pay any ransom for us.
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่ชฐใ‚‚็งใŸใกใฎใŸใ‚ใซ่บซไปฃ้‡‘ใ‚’ๆ‰•ใ„ใŸใŒใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
34:11
True, True. That's right.
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๆญฃใ—ใ„ใ€‚
34:13
But they probably would assume you see that being a YouTube video, you're worth millions.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ YouTube ๅ‹•็”ปใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใฏไฝ•็™พไธ‡ใ‚‚ใฎไพกๅ€คใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
34:18
And they would they would kidnap you
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’่ช˜ๆ‹ใ™ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™
34:22
and that would be their
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ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ
34:24
mistake, by the way, because they would get nothing. Yes,
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34:29
exactly. 5 hours flying.
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ๆญฃ็ขบใซใ€‚ 5ๆ™‚้–“ใฎ้ฃ›่กŒใ€‚
34:31
Yeah. So. Yeah, exactly. They would.
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34:34
Just because you're a YouTube star, would you call yourself a YouTube star?
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YouTube ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใจใ„ใฃใฆใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใ‚’ YouTube ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใจๅ‘ผใณใพใ™ใ‹?
34:38
Hi, I'm Lisa.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒชใ‚ตใงใ™ใ€‚
34:39
I am a YouTube.
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็งใฏ YouTube ใงใ™ใ€‚
34:40
Thalia.
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ใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใ€‚
34:43
I'm now classed
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็งใฏ็พๅœจใ€ใ‹ใชใ‚Šไธ‹ใซใƒฉใƒณใ‚ฏใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™
34:44
well below, so you have all of the big YouTubers and then you go down
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ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅคงๆ‰‹ใฎYouTuberใŒๅ…จๅ“กใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใซใ€ใฉใ‚“ใฉใ‚“
34:50
and down and down keep going down, by the way down.
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ไธ‹ใŒใฃใฆใ„ใใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซไธ‹ใŒใฃใฆใ„ใใพใ™ใ€‚
34:54
And then you go through to the basement of YouTube and then you go down even further.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€YouTube ใฎๅœฐไธ‹ใ‚’้€šใฃใฆใ€ ใ•ใ‚‰ใซไธ‹ใซ้€ฒใฟใพใ™ใ€‚
35:01
Then you have get some special drilling equipment
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35:04
to drill even deeper
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35:06
and then you might go a little bit further down.
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35:09
But then of course, you might have to wear special breathing apparatus
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝ“็„ถใฎใ“ใจใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€ๆฐ—ๅœงใ‚‚ไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‚‚ใŒ็•ฐๅธธใซไฝŽใใชใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€็‰นๅˆฅใชๅ‘ผๅธๅ™จใ‚’็€็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
35:14
because you'll be going down so low that the air pressure and everything will be so weird.
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35:19
And right down there where where a light never reaches,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅ…‰ใŒๆฑบใ—ใฆๅฑŠใ‹ใชใ„ใใฎ็œŸไธ‹ใ€ๆš—้—‡ใฎไธญใง
35:26
that's me
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35:27
down there in the dark is a bit like when you take one of those
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ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€ใƒญใƒœใƒƒใƒˆๆฝœๆฐด่‰ฆใฎ 1ใคใ‚’
35:30
those robotic submarines down to,
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35:33
you know, five miles down to the bottom of the ocean,
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ๆตทๅบ•5ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใพใง้™ใ‚ใ—ใŸใจใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ€
35:36
you see all these very strange creatures
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ใ™ในใฆใŒ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ้žๅธธใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใช็”Ÿใ็‰ฉใฏใ€
35:39
that you don't normally see before you see Jesus.
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ใ‚คใ‚จใ‚นใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซใฏ้€šๅธธ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒ
35:42
You've never it never thought could possibly exist.
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35:45
Yeah.
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35:46
You see jellyfish and and white fish
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ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ฒใ‚„็›ฎใฎใชใ„็™ฝ่บซ้ญšใชใฉใ‚‚่ฆ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™
35:49
with no eyes and things like that.
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35:52
So that's where I am.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚
35:53
So on the YouTube scale of stardom,
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€YouTube ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒ€ใƒ ใฎ่ฆๆจกใง่จ€ใˆใฐใ€
35:57
I'm way down there with all of the plankton, and that's a good suggestion.
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็งใฏใƒ—ใƒฉใƒณใ‚ฏใƒˆใƒณใฎไธญใงใ‚‚ใฏใ‚‹ใ‹ใซไธ‹ไฝใซไฝ็ฝฎใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„ๆๆกˆใงใ™ใ€‚
36:01
Giovanni has suggested that we create a sort of community
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36:06
of English learners online away from these live streams.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใจใฏๅˆฅใซใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใฎใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ไฝœใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆๆกˆใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
36:11
Yes, it would be amazing to chat and share things.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ—ใŸใ‚Šๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใŸใ‚ŠใงใใŸใ‚‰็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
36:15
You mean like.
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ใฟใŸใ„ใชๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใญใ€‚
36:16
Like a kind of WhatsApp group?
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WhatsApp ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ‹?
36:18
Yeah, something like that, maybe.
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36:23
Well, that that is definitely something worth considering.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใๆคœ่จŽใ™ใ‚‹ไพกๅ€คใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
36:26
Because we did create one, didn't we, For the Paris trip? Yes.
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36:29
Well, what I have, I have to remember and what I have to
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ใ•ใฆใ€็งใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ€่ฆšใˆใฆใŠใ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ€ใใ—ใฆ
36:33
also say now is
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ไปŠ่จ€ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใฏใ€
36:39
WhatsApp is a very strange thing
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WhatsApp ใฏ้žๅธธใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€
36:41
because if I create a WhatsApp group
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WhatsApp ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใฆใใ“
36:44
and there are too many people on there, then no one will be able to communicate.
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ใซไบบใŒๅคšใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใจใ€ ่ชฐใ‚‚้€šไฟกใงใใชใใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
36:49
So normally when you have a WhatsApp group, normally the group is very small,
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36:54
normally about seven or eight people at the most.
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36:57
So this is often with work or maybe general interest.
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37:02
So that is one of the reasons why I've never made
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ€็งใŒใ“ใ‚Œใพใงๅคง่ฆๆจกใช WhatsApp ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใ‚’ไฝœใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸ็†็”ฑใฎ 1 ใคใงใ™
37:05
a really big WhatsApp group, because then no one would be able to speak to each other
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37:10
because they'd just be too many people on there at the same time.
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37:15
And, and it and it is very time consuming that
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37:20
that is the one thing that I really did realise. Yes.
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37:23
Giovanni said this. So what about, what about Facebook?
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ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใฏใ“ใ†่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใงใฏใ€Facebook ใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใฉใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
37:27
Well, you have got a Facebook.
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37:29
Of course you do. Of course I have.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€็งใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
37:30
You have got Mr. Duncan does have a Facebook.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐใฏ Facebook ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใญใ€‚
37:32
So that's my Facebook for for something like how many years if I had Facebook?
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ใงใฏใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใฎ Facebook ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ใ‚‚ใ— Facebook ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ไฝ•ๅนดใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
37:37
No, a very, very long time that people can chat to each other on their.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ ไบบใ€…ใŒใŠไบ’ใ„ใซใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚‹ใพใงใ€้žๅธธใซ้•ทใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณ
37:42
Can they, Mr.
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ๆฐใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใงใใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†
37:43
Duncan or definitely.
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37:44
Yeah. Yes I would go back.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€ใพใŸ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
37:47
I've got 15,000 people following me on Facebook.
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Facebook ใง 15,000 ไบบใŒ็งใ‚’ใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒญใƒผใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
37:52
So yes, I do have Facebook.
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ใฏใ„ใ€็งใฏ Facebook ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
37:54
Definitely.
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็ตถๅฏพใซใ€‚ ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
37:55
There was the.
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ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
37:57
Do you want to remind people of your Facebook address?
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Facebook ใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒฌใ‚นใ‚’ไป–ใฎไบบใซๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ‹?
38:01
I suppose I could.
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ใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
38:03
So for what it's worth, just a moment, I will put this up on the screen.
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ใ›ใฃใ‹ใใชใฎใงใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใฎ้–“ใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’็”ป้ขใซ่ผ‰ใ›ใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
38:08
There you go.
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ใ•ใ‚ใ€ใฉใ†ใžใ€‚
38:09
So there's my there's my email address so you can see it now.
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็งใฎใƒกใƒผใƒซใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒฌใ‚นใŒใ“ใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ ไปŠใ™ใ่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
38:13
So if you want to get in touch by email, you can get in touch by email and then Facebook.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€้›ปๅญใƒกใƒผใƒซใง้€ฃ็ตกใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€้›ปๅญ ใƒกใƒผใƒซใง้€ฃ็ตกใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ Facebook ใง้€ฃ็ตกใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
38:23
So there it is.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
38:24
For those wondering what my Facebook page is, there it is.
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็งใฎFacebookใƒšใƒผใ‚ธใŒไฝ•ใชใฎใ‹็–‘ๅ•ใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
38:28
And you might notice that the name of the page is in Capital Letters.
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ใƒšใƒผใ‚ธๅใŒๅคงๆ–‡ๅญ—ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
38:35
Please remember capital letters
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ๅคงๆ–‡ๅญ—ใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใŠใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
38:38
or else you will get another Mr.
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ใใ†ใ—ใชใ„ใจใ€ๅˆฅใฎใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐใŒๆฅใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™
38:41
Duncan.
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38:42
It won't be me.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
38:43
So there is my Facebook page, and I suppose I should also mention
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็งใฎ Facebook ใƒšใƒผใ‚ธใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ™ในใฆ็„กๆ–™ใง่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๅฏ„ไป˜ๅ…ˆใฎใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒฌใ‚นใ‚‚ ่จ˜่ผ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
38:47
the address for donations because I do all of this for free.
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ใ€‚ ็งใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
38:53
If you feel like sending a donation my way, you are more than welcome to do so
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ๅฏ„ไป˜ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ๅคงๆญ“่ฟŽใงใ™ใ€‚
38:59
because I do everything here for free.
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็งใฏใ“ใ“ใงใ™ในใฆใ‚’็„กๆ–™ใง่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
39:04
So there it is again.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใพใŸใพใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
39:05
I will show my email address and then my Facebook.
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ใƒกใƒผใƒซใ‚ขใƒ‰ใƒฌใ‚นใ‚’่กจ็คบใ—ใ€ๆฌกใซ Facebook ใ‚’่กจ็คบใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
39:09
There it is and my PayPal
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39:15
for donations.
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ๅฏ„ไป˜็”จใฎ PayPal ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
39:18
Hello Marzia.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒžใƒซใƒ„ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ€‚
39:21
Molesey is here.
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ใƒขใƒผใƒซใ‚ธใƒผใŒใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
39:22
Hello Marsha.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใƒžใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใ€‚
39:23
We were just showing your photograph, by the way.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ†™็œŸใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ›ใฆใ„ใŸใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
39:26
There it is.
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ใใ“ใซใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€‚
39:27
Sandra, Beatrice, Marsha and Claudia.
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ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใƒฉใ€ใƒ™ใ‚ขใƒˆใƒชใ‚นใ€ใƒžใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใ€ใ‚ฏใƒญใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใ€‚
39:30
They were meeting up during the week, having their secret rendezvous.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅนณๆ—ฅใซ้›†ใพใ‚Šใ€ ็ง˜ๅฏ†ใฎไผšๅˆใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
39:35
I knew nothing about this, so I was very surprised,
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็งใฏใ“ใฎใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆไฝ•ใ‚‚็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ๆŽงใˆใ‚ใซ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚้žๅธธใซ้ฉšใใพใ—ใŸ
39:40
to say the least.
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39:43
Very surprised indeed.
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้ฉšใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
39:46
Lovely meeting out of love to have flown over.
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้ฃ›ใ‚“ใงใใŸๆ„›ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎ็ด ๆ•ตใชๅ‡บไผšใ„ใ€‚
39:49
But we were in Liverpool. Yes,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซใ„ใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใง
39:53
we could have flown over.
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ๆธกใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
39:54
And I wonder how long it would take for us to fly to
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ผใƒณใƒใƒณใพใง้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใง่กŒใใฎใซใฉใฎใใ‚‰ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹
39:57
to Argentina?
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๏ผŸ
39:58
Probably.
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39:58
I would probably think about 8 hours, eight.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€‚
ใŠใใ‚‰ใ 8 ๆ™‚้–“ใใ‚‰ใ„ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŠใ‚ˆใ
40:02
I think you'll find it's about 13.
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13 ๆ™‚้–“ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚13
40:05
Was it 13, maybe even 18 hours?
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ๆ™‚้–“ใงใ—ใŸใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ 18 ๆ™‚้–“ใงใ—ใŸใ‹?
40:08
Yes. It's it's further away than Malaysia.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใƒžใƒฌใƒผใ‚ทใ‚ขใ‚ˆใ‚Š้ ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
40:12
So I think it will be around 15, maybe even 20 hours.
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ใชใฎใงใ€15ๆ™‚้–“ใใ‚‰ใ„ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰20ๆ™‚้–“ใใ‚‰ใ„ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‹ใ‚‚
40:16
It could be.
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ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
40:17
It's very long.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚้•ทใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
40:19
It's it's quite a long way away.
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Š้ ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
40:21
So I'm not sure I would do that.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
40:23
You would have to put me under with some sort of anaesthetic and then put me onto the plane. Yes.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎ ้บป้…”ใ‚’ใ‹ใ‘ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใซไน—ใ›ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
40:29
Pedro. Pedro.
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ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใ€‚ ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใ€‚
40:30
I know Pedro tried to create a group, but I don't think he works with on.
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ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใŒใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใ‚’ไฝœใ‚ใ†ใจใ—ใŸใฎใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ไธ€็ท’ใซๆดปๅ‹•ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใˆใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
40:36
Yes, Pedro did tried to create a group many times.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใƒšใƒ‰ใƒญใฏไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚ใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใ‚’ไฝœใ‚ใ†ใจใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
40:39
I think it is quite difficult, quite challenging.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š้›ฃใ—ใใ€ใ‹ใชใ‚ŠๆŒ‘ๆˆฆ็š„ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
40:42
15 hours. Wow.
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15ๆ™‚้–“ใ€‚ ใŠใŠใ€‚
40:44
14 hours. That is a long time. Yes.
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14ๆ™‚้–“ใ€‚ ้•ทใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
40:47
So it is around 15 hours flying from here to to to South America.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ ใ“ใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ—็ฑณใพใงใฏ้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใง็ด„15ๆ™‚้–“ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
40:52
Definitely.
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็ตถๅฏพใซใ€‚
40:53
Maybe I'll take maybe I'll just go on a boat.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใƒœใƒผใƒˆใซไน—ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
40:56
I'd probably take about a month.
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ใŸใถใ‚“1ใƒถๆœˆใใ‚‰ใ„ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
40:58
I think it'll take longer than a month, Steve.
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1ใ‹ๆœˆไปฅไธŠใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
41:00
I'll take about seven or eight weeks. Yes.
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7ใ€8้€ฑ้–“ใใ‚‰ใ„ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
41:04
And as we know, boats are being liner's
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใƒœใƒผใƒˆใฏ
41:09
and whatever are being rerouted at the moment because of various problems.
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ๅฎšๆœŸ่ˆนใ‚„ใใฎไป–ใฎ ใ•ใพใ–ใพใชๅ•้กŒใฎใŸใ‚ใ€็พๅœจใƒซใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ๅค‰ๆ›ดใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
41:14
So yeah, maybe I won't
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ†ใ€
41:16
that we're talking about supermarkets I'll we Mr.
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ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใ‹ใชใ€ใใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ€ใƒŸใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒป
41:19
Duncan supermarkets is one of the things the reason why I thought about it
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใฎใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใฏใ€ ็งใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’่€ƒใˆใŸ็†็”ฑใฎไธ€ใคใ ใ€‚
41:24
because here in much Wenlock we are quite lucky
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ“ใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใงใฏใ€็งใŸใกใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๅนธ้‹ใชใ“ใจใซใ€
41:27
because we have two small local supermarkets
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ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎๅฐใ•ใชใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใŒ 2 ใคใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใ€‚
41:34
and I'm just wondering because I know here in the UK.
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็งใฏใ“ใ“ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใŸใ ไธๆ€่ญฐใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
41:37
So first of all I will talk about what we have here in the UK.
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ใใ“ใงใพใšๆœ€ๅˆใซใ€ ใ“ใ“ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
41:41
Here of course we have lots of situations where people can just
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใ“ใงใฏ ไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซ่กŒใใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€
41:47
go to the supermarket or of course can actually go online as well.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงใ‚‚ๅˆฉ็”จใงใใ‚‹็ŠถๆณใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
41:52
They can actually just book their shopping to be delivered straight to the house.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’ไบˆ็ด„ใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ€ ๅฎถใซ็›ดๆŽฅ้…้”ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
41:58
I had a lovely thing I made this morning
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ไปŠๆœไฝœใฃใŸ็ด ๆ•ตใชใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™
42:02
and I forgot to load it into my computer for various reasons.
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ใŒใ€ใ•ใพใ–ใพใช็†็”ฑใงใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚ณใƒณใƒ”ใƒฅใƒผใ‚ฟใƒผใซใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
42:07
Sometimes when I'm doing this, you see I have to have my full attention on this
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ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใซๅ…จ็ฅž็ตŒใ‚’้›†ไธญใ•ใ›ใชใ„ใจใ€
42:11
or else I start to make stupid, stupid mistakes.
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ๆ„šใ‹ใชๆ„šใ‹ใช้–“้•ใ„ใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
42:15
And there we go.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
42:16
So that's my first stupid mistake today.
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ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒไปŠๆ—ฅใฎ็งใฎๆœ€ๅˆใฎๆ„šใ‹ใช้–“้•ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
42:19
So there was a lovely caption that I made, but it's not there, unfortunately.
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็งใŒไฝœๆˆใ—ใŸ็ด ๆ•ตใชใ‚ญใƒฃใƒ—ใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰ใใ“ใซใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใง
42:24
I just can load it up now.
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ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
42:26
I can't.
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42:26
And fortunately, Steve, I can't do that
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็งใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
ๅนธใ„ใชใ“ใจใซใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ๆ‰‹้…ใ‚Œใชใฎใงใใ‚Œใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“
42:29
because it's too late, so.
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42:33
Well, so just imagine there's something on the screen that says something nice.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€็”ป้ขไธŠใซ ไฝ•ใ‹่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
42:39
What does it say?
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ใใ‚Œใฏไฝ•ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
42:40
Maybe you can tell it can relay the the the the message.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ไธญ็ถ™ใงใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
42:45
I don't know if I can actually loaded into the computer
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ‚ณใƒณใƒ”ใƒฅใƒผใ‚ฟใซใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰
42:49
because if I do, everything will probably break.
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ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ™ในใฆใŒๅฃŠใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ†ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
42:53
Let's see.
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่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
42:55
Let's see if I can find it.
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่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
42:58
Well, you can
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43:01
you can do that while I carry on talking.
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43:03
Mr. Duncan, you mentioned the two supermarkets that we have in the much Wenlock.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏๅœฐๅŒบใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใŒ 2 ใคใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใŠใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใ„ใพใ—ใŸใญ ใ€‚
43:08
Now there are two.
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ไปŠใฏ2ใคใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
43:11
There's this one called a nicer or a nicer
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€nicer ใพใŸใฏ a nicer ใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใงใ€
43:14
and there's another one which is
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43:19
I can't remember the name of it now what's the name of the other supermarket that week.
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ๅๅ‰ใŒๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใฎ้€ฑใฎไป–ใฎใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใฎๅๅ‰ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
43:23
This is going very well.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซใ†ใพใใ„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚
43:25
Often go to Mr. Duncan Spar the Spar S.P.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใƒปใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผใƒปใ‚ถใƒปใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผS.P.ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใซใ‚ˆใ่กŒใใพใ™
43:28
a spar shop and let's just say we fell out.
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ใŒใ€่ฝใกใถใ‚ŒใŸใจใ ใ‘่จ€ใฃใฆใŠใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
43:33
Not with the spar. We go there. When you say we,
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ใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆˆ‘ใ€…ใฏใใ“ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็งใŸใกใจ่จ€ใ†ใจใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
43:37
you mean you.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใจ
43:39
We had an altercation with the.
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43:42
You had an altercation. Well, read it.
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43:45
Yeah.
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43:46
Anyway, and let's just say we don't go to the neasa.
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43:49
Okay?
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸ๏ผŸ
43:50
This is because we, we, we had an incident.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€็งใŸใกใ€็งใŸใกใ€ไบ‹ไปถใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
43:54
Yeah, let's say we had an inside advert
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ไธๅฝ“ใซๅ‘Š็™บใ•ใ‚ŒใŸ็คพๅ†…ๅบƒๅ‘ŠใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใจใ—ใพใ™
43:57
where we were wrongly accused of something and.
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44:01
Well, that sounds worse, by the way.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚‚ใฃใจๆ‚ชใ„ใ“ใจใซ่žใ“ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
44:04
Yeah. Never. Never.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ไธ€ๅบฆใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€‚ ไธ€ๅบฆใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€‚
44:05
You should never say we were wrongly accused of something because people.
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ไบบใ€…ใฎใ›ใ„ใง็งใŸใกใŒไธๅฝ“ใซๅ‘Š็™บใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใชใฉใจๆฑบใ—ใฆ่จ€ใฃใฆใฏใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
44:10
Wait there. Steve, let me just talk, okay?
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ใใ“ใงๅพ…ใฃใฆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ่ฉฑใ•ใ›ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
44:12
People will think the wrong thing.
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44:15
Now, what they accused us of, because I think
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44:18
we should we should clarify, make clear
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44:22
what they accused us of, just in case they think the wrong thing.
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44:27
We weren't we weren't shoplifting, we weren't stealing,
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็งใŸใกใฏใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€ไธ‡ๅผ•ใใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ใ€็›—ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ใ€
44:31
we weren't chatting up the sales assistants.
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44:35
What happened is they accused us of parking
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44:40
on their car park for too long,
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44:44
when in fact, we had just been into the shop and bought a load of shopping.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ็งใŸใกใŒๅบ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใฆ ๅคง้‡ใฎ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’ใ—ใŸใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใ ใฃใŸใฎใซใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใŸใกใŒๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ้ง่ปŠๅ ดใซ้•ทๆ™‚้–“้ง่ปŠใ—ใ™ใŽใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ้ž้›ฃใ—ใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
44:49
Yes. And Steve was very annoyed.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
44:52
They said, you've been here 2 hours.
651
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ“ใ“ใซ2ๆ™‚้–“ใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใ€‚
44:54
Somebody came out, somebody was leaving
652
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅ‡บใฆใใฆใ€่ชฐใ‹ใŒ
44:57
one of the owners and well, is there Nissan?
653
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3486
ใ‚ชใƒผใƒŠใƒผใฎไธ€ไบบใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๆ—ฅ็”ฃใฏใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹๏ผŸ
45:01
But the owner.
654
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ใงใ‚‚ใ‚ชใƒผใƒŠใƒผใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
45:03
yeah.
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150
45:03
Well, I wasn't going to go into specifics. Right.
656
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใชใ“ใจใซใฏ่งฆใ‚Œใชใ„ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅณใ€‚
45:05
Just I don't think I don't think that the owners of the Nissan in much Wenlock are actually watching.
657
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4838
ใŸใ ใ€ ใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒณใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎๅคšใใฎๆ—ฅ็”ฃใฎใ‚ชใƒผใƒŠใƒผใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
45:10
Yeah but there's still a record of but anyway cut long story short
658
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ใˆใˆใ€ใงใ‚‚่จ˜้Œฒใฏใพใ ๆฎ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ ใจใซใ‹ใ้•ทใ„่ฉฑใ‚’ๆ‰‹็Ÿญใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€
45:15
we've boycotted the shop for five years.
659
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2969
็งใŸใกใฏใใฎๅบ—ใ‚’5ๅนด้–“ใƒœใ‚คใ‚ณใƒƒใƒˆใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
45:18
Well you did well you've been occasionally but only when you're desperate.
660
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4021
ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ˆใใ‚„ใฃใŸใ€ๆ™‚ใ€…ใฏใ‚ใฃใŸ ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ตถๆœ›็š„ใชใจใใ ใ‘ใ ใฃใŸใ€‚
45:22
I had not even set foot in it for five years.
661
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5ๅนด้–“ใ‚‚่ถณใ‚’่ธใฟๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
45:25
I Mean we we were spending I was spending probably
662
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5405
ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใ
45:30
ยฃ500 a month, if not more in there.
663
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2969
ๆœˆใซ500ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใ€ใใ‚ŒไปฅไธŠใ‚’่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
45:33
Okay, that's good.
664
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚
45:34
Plus, I was spending money on on
665
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4721
ใ•ใ‚‰ใซใ€็งใฏใ‚คใ‚จใ‚นใซใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
45:39
my Yes.
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884
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45:40
On customers sandwiches.
667
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2352
ใŠๅฎขๆง˜ใซใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒƒใƒใ‚’ใ€‚
45:42
Anyway, so they've lost out to the tune of thousands and thousands of pounds of our business.
668
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4922
ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ็งใŸใกใฎใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใ‹ใ‚‰ไฝ•ๅƒใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚‚ใฎๅˆฉ็›Šใ‚’ๅคฑใฃใŸใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
45:47
Yeah. Because of wrongly accusing us of something.
669
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3270
ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ไฝ•ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ็งใŸใกใ‚’ไธๅฝ“ใซ้ž้›ฃใ—ใŸใŸใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
45:51
But yeah, all the spar says V
670
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3203
ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผใŒ่จ€ใ†ใซใฏใ€V
45:54
task is is a is is a Dutch
671
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ใ‚ฟใ‚นใ‚ฏใฏใ‚ชใƒฉใƒณใƒ€ใฎ
45:59
company.
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ไผš็คพใงใ™ใ€‚
46:00
I didn't know that.
673
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1502
ใใ‚Œใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
46:01
Well, they're very good. We like the spar.
674
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1835
ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใจใฆใ‚‚่‰ฏใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚
46:03
Yeah it's it's not too bad.
675
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1468
ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉๆ‚ชใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
46:04
Some of the people in there are a bit grumpy though.
676
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ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ไธญใซใฏๅฐ‘ใ—ไธๆฉŸๅซŒใใ†ใชไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
46:07
One or two of the women and sometimes they just look at you
677
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ๅฅณๆ€งใฎใ†ใกใฎ 1 ไบบใ‹ 2 ไบบใ€ ใใ—ใฆๅ ดๅˆใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆใฏใ€ใŸใ ็œ‰ใ‚’ใฒใใ‚ใชใŒใ‚‰ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™
46:10
with a sort of a frown.
678
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46:13
I didn't know that was a Dutch company.
679
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ใ‚ชใƒฉใƒณใƒ€ใฎไผš็คพใ ใจใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
46:17
I had no idea.
680
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1635
ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
46:19
There are spar all around the world.
681
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ไธ–็•Œไธญใซใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
46:21
Spar supermarkets.
682
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1435
ใ‚นใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใ€‚
46:23
They are they are actually dotted in many parts of the world as well.
683
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4238
ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซ ไธ–็•ŒใฎๅคšใใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใซใ‚‚็‚นๅœจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
46:27
Very, very big company.
684
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1985
ใจใฆใ‚‚ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅคงใใชไผš็คพใงใ™ใ€‚
46:29
Well, they're very inexpensive.
685
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฎ‰ใ„ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
46:31
Their products are very, very competitively priced.
686
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ่ฃฝๅ“ใฏ้žๅธธใซ็ซถไบ‰ๅŠ›ใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ไพกๆ ผใงใ™ใ€‚
46:35
So we sorry, are we being sponsored by them?
687
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็”ณใ—่จณใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚นใƒใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
46:38
No, but I'm just saying.
688
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ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใŸใ ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
46:39
Carlos s I know Carlos.
689
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2452
ใ‚ซใƒซใƒญใ‚น ็งใฏใ‚ซใƒซใƒญใ‚นใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
46:42
It's yeah, it gives us a big hello did earlier says I'm a big fan of Asda
690
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6857
ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกใซๅคงใใชๆŒจๆ‹ถใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™ใ€ ๅ…ˆใปใฉ็งใŒAsdaใฎๅคงใƒ•ใ‚กใƒณใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
46:49
but I do buy some products from Tesco.
691
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2036
็งใฏTescoใ‹ใ‚‰ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ่ฃฝๅ“ใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
46:51
Well Asda are owned by two brothers
692
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5405
ใ•ใฆใ€Asda ใฏ 2 ไบบใฎๅ…„ๅผŸใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ•ใ‚ŒใฆใŠใ‚Š
46:56
and they're having a quite a few problems at the moment.
693
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ใ€็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Šใฎๅ•้กŒใ‚’ๆŠฑใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
47:00
There's been a big falling out Asda I just as a
694
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3637
ใ‚ขใ‚นใƒ€ใฏใ‹ใคใฆใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใƒžใƒผใƒˆใŒๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅคงใใช่„ฑ่ฝใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ไปŠใฏใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
47:03
as the is owned by Wal Mart it used to be
695
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47:08
but it isn't anymore.
696
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ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›
47:09
It isn't.
697
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1101
ใ‚“ใ€‚
47:10
No. I think Wal Mart sold it.
698
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3003
ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใƒžใƒผใƒˆใŒ่ฒฉๅฃฒใ—ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
47:13
it's now run by two brothers.
699
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็พๅœจใฏไบŒไบบใฎๅ…„ๅผŸใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆ็ตŒๅ–ถใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
47:16
I think they're from the
700
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2586
ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใฉใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใŸใฎใ‹
47:19
I'm not quite sure where they're from.
701
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1968
ใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๅ‡บ่บซใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
47:21
There might be Middle Eastern as we would say here.
702
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ใ“ใ“ใง่จ€ใ†ไธญๆฑใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
47:23
I didn't know maybe from Saudi Arabia.
703
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3120
ใŸใถใ‚“ใ‚ตใ‚ฆใ‚ธใ‚ขใƒฉใƒ“ใ‚ขใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใŸใจใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
47:27
I'm not sure somebody can look it up.
704
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1585
่ชฐใ‹ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฟในใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
47:28
So the point is, yeah, I'm
705
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€้‡่ฆใชใฎใฏใ€ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ
47:32
just saying that they're having problems at the moment, but well, in the UK they are anyway.
706
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5556
็พๆ™‚็‚นใงๅ•้กŒใ‚’ๆŠฑใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใŒใ€ ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใงใฏใจใซใ‹ใๅ•้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
47:38
I don't know that. Well, they were.
707
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1651
ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
47:39
Yes. Anyway, they are. Okay.
708
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2586
ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
47:42
You mind it.
709
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685
ๆฐ—ใซใ—ใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
47:43
I'm sure it was Asda that are owned by two.
710
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2502
ไบŒไบบใงๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ็ขบใ‹ใ‚ขใ‚นใƒ€ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
47:45
Somebody can look it up and they can confirm. Yes.
711
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฟในใฆ็ขบ่ชใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
47:48
Because as far as I knew they were,
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็งใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹้™ใ‚Šใ€
47:49
they were part of the Wal Mart group which apparently they still got the Wal Mart. Yes.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใƒžใƒผใƒˆใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใฎไธ€ๅ“กใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใ‚‰ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใพใ ใ‚ฆใ‚ฉใƒซใƒžใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ๅ‚˜ไธ‹ใซ็ฝฎใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
47:54
Operating systems are something which is causing them problems.
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ใ‚ชใƒšใƒฌใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐ ใ‚ทใ‚นใƒ†ใƒ ใฏใ€ ๅ•้กŒใฎๅŽŸๅ› ใจใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
47:59
But I think I think I'm right in saying that
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
48:02
as there is now owned by or is owned, two brothers.
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็พๅœจใฏ 2 ไบบใฎๅ…„ๅผŸใŒๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ใพใŸใฏๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€็งใฎ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใฏๆญฃใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
48:06
Two brothers, two human beings. Yeah, please look it up.
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ไบŒไบบใฎๅ…„ๅผŸใ€ไบŒไบบใฎไบบ้–“ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€ ่ชฟในใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
48:10
Who may be from Saudi Arabia or somewhere in that part of the world.
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ใ‚ตใ‚ฆใ‚ธใ‚ขใƒฉใƒ“ใ‚ขใ‹ไธ–็•Œใฎใฉใ“ใ‹ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฅใŸไบบใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
48:15
Yeah, that's good.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
48:16
Although it probably turned out that British born and bred as well.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นไบบใ‚‚็”Ÿใพใ‚Œ่‚ฒใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒๅˆคๆ˜Žใ—ใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใŒ ใ€‚
48:19
I just sound like the sort of thing you do.
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็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่žใ“ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
48:23
Well, of course,
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
48:24
supermarket shopping is a very strange thing because there are many places
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ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใงใฎ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใฏ้žๅธธใซๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
48:30
where you can buy goods and groceries.
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ๅ•†ๅ“ใ‚„้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใ‚’่ฒทใˆใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
48:34
By the way, ยฃ500 is too much a month.
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ใกใชใฟใซๆœˆ500ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใฏ้ซ˜ใ™ใŽใพใ™ใ€‚
48:38
I don't I don't think we spend that much, do we, on groceries?
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็งใŸใกใฏ้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใซใใ‚ŒใปใฉใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ใ‹ใ‘ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใญ?
48:41
ยฃ500.
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500ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใ€‚
48:42
Well, I was you see, I have to I was buying.
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ใพใ‚ใ€็งใฏใปใ‚‰ใ€่ฒทใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
48:45
Well we were only spending maybe 200. Okay.
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ใพใ‚ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใŸใฎใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใ 200 ใƒ‰ใƒซใ ใ‘ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
48:49
And probably not that I think we I think most weekends we rent in there.
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ใใ—ใฆใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ†ใงใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎ้€ฑๆœซใซใใ“ใ‚’ๅ€Ÿใ‚Šใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
48:54
We spent ยฃ50 most weekends on food. Yes.
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็งใŸใกใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎ้€ฑๆœซใซ้ฃŸ่ฒปใซ50ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚’่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
48:57
I mean, the fact that their prices are double everywhere else
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ไป–ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใฏไพกๆ ผใŒ 2 ๅ€ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ไบ‹ๅฎŸใฏใ€
48:59
probably doesn't help that that wasn't the point I was making anyway.
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ใ„ใšใ‚Œใซใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใฎ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
49:02
But I would also go in there and because if I'm seeing customers
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€็งใ‚‚ใใ“ใซใฏ่กŒใใพใ™ใ—ใ€ใปใจใ‚“ใฉๆฏŽๆ—ฅ ใŠๅฎขใ•ใ‚“ใจไผšใฃใฆใ„ใฆ
49:07
most days, if it's lunchtime, I'll take them sandwiches.
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ใ€ ใƒฉใƒณใƒใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒƒใƒใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
49:10
So I would be going in there most days buying maybe ยฃ30 worth of food
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€็งใฏใƒฉใƒณใƒใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ ใฎใƒŸใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใฎใƒฉใƒณใƒใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒ ใซใ€ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎๆ—ฅใใ“ใซ่กŒใฃใฆใ€้กงๅฎขใฎใŸใ‚ใซ ใŠใใ‚‰ใ30ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ไปฅไธŠใฎ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’่ฒทใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
49:15
or more for customers, lunch time for lunchtime meetings.
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49:19
And so it added up to a lot of money.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๅคš้กใฎใŠ้‡‘ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
49:22
So anyway, it's their loss.
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ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๆๅคฑใงใ™ใ€‚ ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆ
49:25
I've just realised that I haven't read the live stream of
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ใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใ‚’
49:30
the live chat for ages
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ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚่ชญใ‚“ใงใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ“ใจใซไปŠๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
49:32
because by the way, we could have gone on Concorde of course, in 3 hours,
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ใกใชใฟใซใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ณใƒซใƒ‰ใซไน—ใฃใฆ 3ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ่กŒใ‘ใ‚‹ใฏใšใงใ™ใ€
49:37
sorry, across to the supermarket,
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ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใพใงๅ‘ใ‹ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€
49:40
but sorry Steve, what are you,
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ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€
49:42
are you just going to go from one subject to another without telling us?
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็งใŸใกใซไฝ•ใ‚‚่จ€ใ‚ใšใซใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹่ฉฑ้กŒใ‹ใ‚‰ๅˆฅใฎ่ฉฑ้กŒใซ็งปใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
49:46
So you could fly by Concorde
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ณใƒซใƒ‰ใง
49:49
to the local Asda in 3 hours.
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ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎใ‚ขใ‚นใƒ€ใพใงใฏ 3 ๆ™‚้–“ใงๅˆฐ็€ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
49:53
Is that, is that what you're saying.
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ใ‚ใ‚Œใ€ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
49:55
No, I think it was to, to,
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
49:58
to fly west, you know, across to America,
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่ฅฟใซ้ฃ›ใ‚“ใงใ€ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใ€
50:01
South America, South America.
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50:03
I don't know where the Concorde went, too.
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ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ณใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚‚ใฉใ“ใธ่กŒใฃใŸใฎใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
50:05
Did Concorde go to South America?
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ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ณใƒซใƒ‰ใฏๅ—็ฑณใซ่กŒใใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
50:07
I don't know. It didn't.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
50:08
It only went to the United States, right.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใซใ—ใ‹่กŒใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใญใ€‚
50:12
Normally, New York, 2 hours.
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้€šๅธธใ€ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใƒจใƒผใ‚ฏใฏ2ๆ™‚้–“ใงใ™ใ€‚
50:14
Imagine not getting on a plane and being in New York in just a couple of hours.
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้ฃ›่กŒๆฉŸใซไน—ใ‚‰ใšใซใ€ ใ‚ใšใ‹ๆ•ฐๆ™‚้–“ใงใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใƒจใƒผใ‚ฏใซๅˆฐ็€ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
50:19
Wow. Amazing.
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ใŠใŠใ€‚ ใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚
50:21
They should bring back Concorde.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ณใƒซใƒ‰ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๆˆปใ™ในใใ ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ
50:23
Is it Bring it?
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ๆŒใฃใฆใใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
50:24
They should get it and just give it a little clean, wipe it down
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50:29
with a damp rag and and then we can we can have supersonic travel again.
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ๆนฟใฃใŸๅธƒใงๆ‹ญใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ๅ†ใณ่ถ…้Ÿณ้€Ÿ้ฃ›่กŒใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
50:33
Wouldn't that be lovely?
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ•ตใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ
50:34
The only problem is they kept bursting into flames.
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ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๅ•้กŒใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใŒ็‚ŽไธŠใ—็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
50:37
Of course, that's that's not good when you're flying.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€้ฃ›่กŒไธญใฏใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
50:40
Well, only once.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ไธ€ๅบฆใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
50:43
okay.
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50:44
Did you have we seen a film called Salt Burn?
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50:49
dear.
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50:49
Everyone keeps asking about it.
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่ฆชๆ„›ใชใ‚‹ใ€‚
่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‹ใญ็ถšใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚
50:52
Everyone is talking about this show.
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่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใ“ใฎ็•ช็ต„ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
50:55
And I have to say, that is the one thing that puts me off watching anything.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ใŸใ‚ใ‚‰ใ†ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎใ“ใจใ ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
51:00
When everyone's talking about a show on television.
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ใฟใ‚“ใชใŒใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใฎ็•ช็ต„ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ€‚
51:03
I normally don't watch it because normally I'm sick and tired of hearing it being talked about.
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ๆ™ฎๆฎตใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่žใใฎใซใ†ใ‚“ใ–ใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๆ™ฎๆฎตใฏ่ฆ‹ใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
51:09
So no, I haven't seen it.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
51:10
And to be honest, I probably never will because everyone keeps talking about it,
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ใใ—ใฆๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€็งใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใ็ตถๅฏพใซใใ†ใฏๆ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒ ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑ้กŒใซใ—็ถšใ‘ใ€
51:14
even the news keeps talking about it and everyone
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ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใ‚นใงใ•ใˆใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑ้กŒใซใ—็ถšใ‘ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€
51:18
and nobody that it once it becomes
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่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใใ‚ŒใŒ้Žๅ‰ฐใซๅฎฃไผใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจ
51:20
overhyped, they actually lose interest.
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ใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๅคฑใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
51:24
That's why I never went to see Avatar, both of those movies.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ€็งใŒใ€Žใ‚ขใƒใ‚ฟใƒผใ€ใจใ€Žใ‚ขใƒใ‚ฟใƒผใ€ใ‚’ไธกๆ–นใจใ‚‚่ฆณใซ่กŒใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸ็†็”ฑใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใฟใ‚“ใชใŒ
51:28
I never went to see them because everyone kept talking about them.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใšใฃใจ่ฉฑ้กŒใซใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€็งใฏไธ€ๅบฆใ‚‚ๅฝผใ‚‰ใซไผšใ„ใซ่กŒใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
51:31
You must go and see it. It's an amazing movie.
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51:34
No, I don't know what it's about.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใชใฎใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
51:36
I haven't heard of it. I haven't seen anything about it.
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่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ€
51:39
Let's just say it's about I think there's a lot of naughty stuff going on,
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ใ‚จใƒƒใƒใชใ“ใจใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ†ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ ใ‘่จ€ใฃใฆใŠใใพใ™ใŒใ€
51:42
which of course, is what you need to do nowadays to get people watching.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ไบบใ€…ใฎๆณจ็›ฎใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไปŠๆ—ฅ่กŒใ†ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
51:46
You mean naughty in terms of.
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ใ„ใŸใšใ‚‰ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใญใ€‚
51:48
Well, know, just just I think people can make up their own minds.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใŸใ  ็งใฏใ€ไบบใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใงๆฑบใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
51:51
You don't have to say what it is. Yes. Naughty.
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51:54
You know.
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51:55
You know
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51:58
a lot of that because that's
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ใใ‚ŒใŒไปŠๆ—ฅใ€
51:59
the only way you can get people to watch you things nowadays.
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ไบบใ€…ใซใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ๅ”ฏไธ€ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
52:02
It's a bit like YouTube is that they don't want to see ugly people like me.
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็งใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช้†œใ„ไบบ้–“ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใฏใ€YouTube ใจไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
52:07
They want to see sexy people like me,
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚ปใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒผใชไบบใซไผšใ„ใŸใ„ใจ
52:11
Palmira says.
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52:12
Have we got a I think you mean Sainsbury's?
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ใ‚ปใ‚คใƒณใ‚บใƒ™ใƒชใƒผใ‚บใฎใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
52:15
Have we got a Sainsbury's? A much Wenlock? No, because
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52:19
it's too small to have a big supermarket.
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ๅคงใใชใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใซใฏๅฐใ•ใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
52:22
Well there is a Sainsbury's in Telford
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52:26
not too far away, about seven miles away.
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52:29
Okay.
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52:29
So which a place that we often I often shop at home
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŸใกใŒๅฎถใงใ‚ˆใ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใŒใ€
52:35
and we've got all the big supermarkets in Telford
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52:38
actually there's one in Bridgnorth as well.
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52:42
Bridgnorth. Yes. I'm sure everyone knows where that is.
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52:45
Yeah.
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52:45
Which is not too far away but yeah, there's, there's a big supermarket not far away,
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้ ใใชใ„ใ‘ใฉใ€ใใ†ใ€ใใ† ้ ใใชใ„ใจใ“ใ‚ใซๅคงใใชใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ 
52:49
but the, the
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52:53
can't remember the name.
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52:54
I always have a block on the name of that
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52:58
supermarket in this town centre of Much Wenlock.
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53:01
Mr. Duncan.
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53:01
Well the one we've just talked about, the one we've just been talking about and that is Spar Shop.
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ใ•ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใŒไปŠ ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ Spar Shop ใงใ™ใ€‚
53:07
Yeah. I don't know what I always have.
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53:08
BLOCK on remembering the name of that of that particular shop, but there we go.
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53:16
I've forgotten I've lost my train of thought.
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53:18
Now, Mr. Duncan,
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53:20
this if you want to be very posh
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53:23
are we still talking about supermarkets? Mr.
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53:26
Duncan It's still on the screen underneath us like, right.
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53:29
Okay. I can't see it. Right? Yes.
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53:31
So if you want to be very posh in the, you can impress all your friends and family,
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53:37
then you can say you shop at Waitrose. Yes.
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53:40
w a i t r s e
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ใƒญใƒผใ‚บ
53:47
and supermarket Waitrose.
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ใจใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใฎใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใ€‚
53:49
Could you spell that as well.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‚็ถดใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
53:50
Which is, which is the food
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
53:55
branch of a big soup.
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ๅคงใใชใ‚นใƒผใƒ—ใฎ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใฎๆžใงใ™ใ€‚
53:59
Sort of.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ€‚
54:00
I can't remember the name
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ๅๅ‰ใฏๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“
54:03
but there is a danger.
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ใŒใ€ๅฑ้™บใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
54:05
My brain is completely frozen.
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็งใฎ่„ณใฏๅฎŒๅ…จใซใƒ•ใƒชใƒผใ‚บใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
54:07
John Lewis That's the John Lewis group.
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ใ‚ธใƒงใƒณใƒปใƒซใ‚คใ‚น ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ธใƒงใƒณใƒปใƒซใ‚คใ‚นใƒปใ‚ฐใƒซใƒผใƒ—ใงใ™ใ€‚
54:10
Okay, Steve, you've got to just stop. Take a breath.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚„ใ‚ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚ ๅ‘ผๅธใ™ใ‚‹ใ€‚
54:14
John Lewis Right.
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ใ‚ธใƒงใƒณใƒปใƒซใ‚คใ‚น ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
54:15
Have a lot of already thinking about abandoning this live stream.
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ใ™ใงใซ ใ“ใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ไธญๆญขใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
54:19
They're like a department store, but they also have the.
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ใƒ‡ใƒ‘ใƒผใƒˆใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ ใŒใ€ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
54:22
Steve, Wait, I'm just talking.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ€็งใฏใŸใ ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
54:24
I'm just trying to tell the viewers something.
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่ฆ–่ด่€…ใซไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ไผใˆใŸใ„ใ ใ‘ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
54:26
It's okay.
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ๅคงไธˆๅคซใ€‚
54:28
Well, obvious, but there's lots of other things going on on the Internet.
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ๅฝ“็„ถใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใŒใ€ ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆไธŠใงใฏไป–ใซใ‚‚ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
54:32
If you want to click away and watch something else, I don't blame you.
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ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆไป–ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’่ฒฌใ‚ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
54:37
You were saying, Steve?
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎ๏ผŸ
54:39
right. Okay. Yeah.
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ๅณใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
54:40
So they they they are the food company
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
54:44
that are owned by John Lewis and they started off just in London.
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ใ‚ธใƒงใƒณใƒปใƒซใ‚คใ‚นใŒๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹้ฃŸๅ“ไผš็คพใงใ€ ใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉใƒญใƒณใƒ‰ใƒณใงใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒˆใ—ใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
54:49
And it's basically a very posh supermarket.
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ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏใจใฆใ‚‚้ซ˜็ดšใชใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใงใ™ใ€‚
54:53
And as Christina points out,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใŒๆŒ‡ๆ‘˜ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
54:57
Marks and Spencers food
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ใƒžใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚น๏ผ†ใ‚นใƒšใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใฎ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚‚
55:00
is also expensive as well. M.A.
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ๅŒๆง˜ใซ้ซ˜ไพกใงใ™ใ€‚ M.A.
55:04
or Waitrose
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ใพใŸใฏใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใฏ
55:06
is probably regarded as the highest quality food
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใๆœ€้ซ˜ๅ“่ณชใฎ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ ใจ่€ƒใˆ
55:10
you could really say when you say and s what do you mean?
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ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ ใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹?
55:15
Well, I just said Marks and Spencers, that's it.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใƒžใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚นใจใ‚นใƒšใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
55:17
So often people just call it and they do instead of say Marks and Spencer, even though
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ๅฎŸ่ณช็š„ใซๅŒใ˜ๆ•ฐใฎ้Ÿณ็ฏ€ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใซใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‚‰ใšใ€ ใƒžใƒผใ‚ฏใ‚นใจใ‚นใƒšใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใจ่จ€ใ†ไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซใ€ๅ˜ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ—ใพใ†ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
55:23
there's virtually the same number of syllables you're not actually shortening it.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’็Ÿญ็ธฎใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
55:28
Yeah, that's it.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
55:30
Anyway, the reason why I went to the we've, we've completely lost the track of why
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ใใ‚Œใซใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใชใœใ‚ฆใ‚ฃใƒผใƒดใซ่กŒใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใ€ไฝ•ใฎ ใŸใ‚ใซใ“ใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ€ๅฎŒๅ…จใซใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
55:34
I'm talking about this.
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55:36
You would imagine that supermarkets would all be doing great business,
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55:42
but here in the UK there has been a bit of a crisis, hasn't that, with people
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55:47
choosing other ways to shop and also
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ไป–ใฎ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’้ธๆŠžใ—ใ€
55:50
a lot of it now being done on the internet.
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ใใฎๅคšใใฏใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆไธŠใง่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ€‚
55:53
So a lot of people now can buy shopping on the Internet, even Amazon, Amazon
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ไปŠใงใฏๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซใฏใ‚ขใƒžใ‚พใƒณใง่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ขใƒžใ‚พใƒณใฏ้ฃŸๅ“ไบ‹ๆฅญใ‚‚
55:59
now do food so you can actually get food delivered to your door on Amazon.
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่กŒใฃใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ ใ‚ขใƒžใ‚พใƒณใง้ฃŸๅ“ใ‚’่‡ชๅฎ…ใพใง้…้”ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
56:06
That's that's crazy when you think about it.
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56:08
You can we can't because we don't live within I think they use a
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56:13
do don't they to deliver their food Waitrose I thought it was a vine.
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56:19
so I think so so we're not in range
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56:23
of, of being able to order food off Amazon.
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56:28
If we were I tell you we would never leave the house because I get practically everything else from Amazon.
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56:34
It's interesting to note, by the way, that no one delivers to us here, not,
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56:39
not none of those food companies like Deliveroo and just
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Deliveroo ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช้ฃŸๅ“ไผš็คพใŒ่ชฐใ‚‚ใ„ใชใ„ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€ ๅ˜ใซ
56:44
they won't come here because we're too remote.
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56:47
So they always say all of those things.
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56:51
So we can't order food, we can't fast food on the Internet
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56:55
and have it delivered because they say they don't come here.
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56:58
We can get some supermarkets to deliver here.
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57:01
That's good.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚
57:02
And Christina is now, as pointed out, Aldi and Lidl.
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57:07
Now, of course, they or the other supermarkets
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57:10
have been suffering in recent years because because of course, there's
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57:15
been a cost of living crisis for a number of years set off by the pandemic
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57:21
and various other factors. Yes.
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57:23
And so more and more people are now shopping at,
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57:27
let's just say, lower costing supermarkets,
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57:31
Lidl and Aldi.
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Lidl ใ‚„ Aldi ใง่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
57:33
I think they from the Netherlands on they and they Dutch companies think they are.
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57:39
So yes, that's interesting.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
57:43
I'm sure they are Aldi.
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57:45
And are they German? They might be German.
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57:48
They could be German.
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57:49
Maybe someone will tell us Aldi and Lidl, are they German owned?
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰่ชฐใ‹ใŒใ‚ขใƒซใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใจใƒชใƒ‰ใƒซใซใคใ„ใฆๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒ„ไบบใŒๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใใ†ใ ใจ
57:54
I think they are.
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57:55
And so certainly the likes of Waitrose have been suffering.
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58:01
Actually, the only supermarket that's really suffering is in the UK at the moment is Waitrose.
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ๅฎŸใฏใ€ ็พๆ™‚็‚นใง่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใฏใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใ ใ‘ใ ใ€‚
58:06
They've lost a lot of market share.
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58:08
whereas I think and I think Tesco has a bit but,
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58:14
but mainly Waitrose has suffered I do believe, but
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58:20
we don't have an
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58:21
eminence near us, but we do have a Tesco,
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58:24
Tesco have a lot of these smaller shops,
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58:28
supermarkets are very small, it's
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58:30
based in petrol stations,
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58:34
it's quite common to find those in petrol stations
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58:37
where you can just pick up essentials,
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58:41
much smaller sort of shops.
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58:45
But, but yes, we can get most things delivered here.
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58:49
But yeah, Aldi and Lidl are becoming more popular
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58:53
because are trying to save money when,
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58:55
when the price of oil went up and gas
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59:00
and everything else,
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59:01
then people obviously are trying to save on their budget.
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59:06
So are choosing different supermarkets.
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59:12
Well, of course high end.
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59:14
When we talk about high end, we are talking about things that are more expensive.
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59:19
So you might say that Waitrose
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59:22
who who is owned by John Lewis,
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59:26
another very high end retailer,
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59:29
they they've been suffering the most because of course they are the most expensive.
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59:34
So I think it would be fair to say that that those things that cater or
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59:40
their goods or services
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59:43
to people with more money then than they are normally the ones to suffer.
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59:48
First of all, I think they are they about to announce
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59:51
11,000 redundancies.
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59:54
John Lewis and Waitrose 11,000
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59:59
people look like they're going to lose their job.
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60:02
That that is not good.
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60:04
I struggled a bit because they pitched themselves,
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60:08
they made a few mistakes really because Waitrose was a lovely shop to go to
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60:14
if you wanted, if you wanted to go supermarket shopping
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60:18
and you wanted to feel special,
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60:21
then you we would occasionally treat ourselves
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60:25
to going to Waitrose because when you went in it was like going into a boutique.
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60:30
It just felt very special.
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60:32
Yes, everything was more expensive, but you were getting
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60:36
a nicer overall experience as the
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ๅ…จไฝ“็š„ใซใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ไฝ“้จ“ใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸ
60:40
you never had to queue at tills, for example.
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ใ€‚
60:43
There are always lots of staff there.
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ใ„ใคใ‚‚ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
60:45
You got a free cup of coffee
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็„กๆ–™ใฎใ‚ณใƒผใƒ’ใƒผใ‚’้ฃฒใฟ
60:48
and then if anything went wrong, they'd instantly refund the service.
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ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ๅ•้กŒใŒใ‚ใฃใŸๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ใ™ใใซใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ‚’่ฟ”้‡‘ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
60:53
Customer service was first class
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้กงๅฎขใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใฏไธ€ๆตใงใ€
60:56
and you felt almost it was worth paying extra for the food.
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้ฃŸไบ‹ใซ่ฟฝๅŠ ๆ–™้‡‘ใ‚’ๆ‰•ใ†ไพกๅ€คใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
61:00
But the mistake that they've made, or a lot of people, the mistake
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ็Šฏใ—ใŸ้–“้•ใ„ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ
61:04
they have made, is they've dropped all the services but kept the prices high.
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็Šฏใ—ใŸ้–“้•ใ„ใฏใ€ใ™ในใฆใฎใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ‚’ๅปƒๆญขใ—ใŸ ใซใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‚‰ใšใ€ไพกๆ ผใ‚’้ซ˜ใ็ถญๆŒใ—ใŸใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
61:09
So if you go into a Waitrose store now,
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใฎๅบ—่ˆ—ใซ่กŒใใจใ€
61:12
you mostly have to serve yourself on one of those self-service tills
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ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ใ‚ปใƒซใƒ•ใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใฎใƒฌใ‚ธใง่‡ชๅˆ†ใงใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใงใฏ
61:17
because they've cut down on all the staff and they've so you don't feel it's any special.
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ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใŒๅ…จๅ“กๅ‰Šๆธ›ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ ใใ‚ŒใŒ็‰นๅˆฅใชใ“ใจใ ใจใฏๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
61:22
So you think, well, why would I go there and spend the extra money?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ ใชใœใใ“ใซ่กŒใฃใฆไฝ™ๅˆ†ใชใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ไฝฟใ†ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹โ€‹โ€‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
61:26
I might as well just go to a normal supermarket.
951
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ๆ™ฎ้€šใฎใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซ่กŒใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
61:28
I think that's why they've suffered, because they've, they've sort of lost.
952
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ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใใŸ็†็”ฑใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณ่ฒ ใ‘ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
61:33
They've lost really the whole point of their existence.
953
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŸใกใฎๅญ˜ๅœจๆ„็พฉใ‚’ๅฎŒๅ…จใซๅคฑใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
61:36
And they tried to introduce cheaper goods and it's all sort of spiral down from there.
954
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅฎ‰ไพกใชๅ•†ๅ“ใ‚’ๅฐŽๅ…ฅใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใ€ ใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒ‘ใ‚คใƒฉใƒซใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
61:42
They're always out of stock of things as well,
955
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ๅธธใซๅœจๅบซๅˆ‡ใ‚Œใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€
61:45
which is always very annoying.
956
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ใ„ใคใ‚‚ใจใฆใ‚‚่ฟทๆƒ‘ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’็„กๆ–™ใงๆไพ›ใ—ใŸใฎใงใ€
61:46
I don't want to turn this into a good sizing Waitrose
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’้ฉๅˆ‡ใชใ‚ตใ‚คใ‚บใฎใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใซๅค‰ใˆใŸใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
61:49
because they were giving it away.
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ใ€‚
61:52
You see that we sometimes use them and we're not wealthy.
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็งใŸใกใฏๆ™‚ใ€…ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€็งใŸใกใฏ่ฃ•็ฆใงใฏใชใ„ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
61:56
Trust me.
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61:56
Please, please send your donations. Please, please.
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็งใ‚’ไฟกใ˜ใฆใ€‚
ใœใฒใ€ๅฏ„ไป˜้‡‘ใ‚’ใŠๅฏ„ใ›ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฏ„ไป˜ใ‚’ๅ‹Ÿใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใซใ€ใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใงใฎ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉ
62:00
I know it seems odd that we're talking about shopping at Waitrose when I'm asking for donation.
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ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใซๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
62:06
It doesn't seem right.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆญฃใ—ใใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
62:08
Yeah. Thank you.
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62:08
Thank you.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚
ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚
62:09
It was quite so.
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62:09
Isn't it annoying when you go to a supermarket?
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ใพใฃใŸใใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใซ่กŒใๆ™‚ใฃใฆ้ขๅ€’ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
62:12
There's two things to know about supermarkets.
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ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆ็ŸฅใฃใฆใŠใในใใ“ใจใŒ 2 ใคใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
62:15
One is you go in and they've rearranged everything okay
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1ใคใฏใ€ๅบ—ๅ†…ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ใจใ€ๆฃšใฎใ™ในใฆใŒๆญฃๅธธใซไธฆในๆ›ฟใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹
62:19
on the shelves so you can you don't know where the milk is anymore or,
970
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ใŸใ‚ใ€ ็‰›ไนณใŒใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€
62:23
or your pastas move somewhere else
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ใƒ‘ใ‚นใ‚ฟใŒใฉใ“ใ‹ใซ็งปๅ‹•ใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใ€
62:26
and you have to keep asking where is it?
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ใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’ๅฐ‹ใญ็ถšใ‘ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
62:29
But because everyone's in a rush, aren't they?
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ใงใ‚‚ใฟใ‚“ใชๆ€ฅใ„ใงใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใญ๏ผŸ
62:32
And the other thing is that if they're out of stock or something or they
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใคใฏใ€ ๅœจๅบซๅˆ‡ใ‚Œใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€
62:35
well they get rid of something that you like
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ๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๅ‡ฆๅˆ†ใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใŒใ€
62:39
and unfortunately Waitrose did a lot of that.
976
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ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰ใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใƒˆใƒญใƒผใ‚บใฏใใฎๅคšใใ‚’่กŒใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ“ใงใ—ใ‹ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‰ใชใ„
62:42
There were certain items that you could only get from them,
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็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ•†ๅ“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€
62:45
which we liked, and then they stopped
978
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็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใฎๅ•†ๅ“ใŒ่ฒฉๅฃฒไธญๆญขใซใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ใใฎๅ•†ๅ“ใฎ
62:50
or then they stopped stocking them and then other supermarkets have them instead.
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ๅœจๅบซใŒใชใใชใ‚Šใ€ ไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซไป–ใฎใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใงใใฎๅ•†ๅ“ใŒ่ฒฉๅฃฒใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
62:54
So this is the trouble isn't it.
980
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒๅ•้กŒใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
62:56
I tend to, to, to get a bit funny like that.
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็งใฏใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅฐ‘ใ—้ข็™ฝใใชใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
63:00
If somebody stop stocking something, I'll go somewhere else for it.
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ไป•ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ ็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ใฉใ“ใ‹ๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ่ฒทใ„ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
63:04
But then of course when you go, this is what happens if something you like in a supermarket
983
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซ่กŒใฃใŸใจใใซใ€ ๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใŸใ‚‚ใฎใŒ
63:08
and then they stop stocking it, you then go to another supermarket.
984
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ๅ…ฅ่ทใ—ใชใใชใ‚Šใ€ ๅˆฅใฎใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซ่กŒใใจใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
63:12
But when you're there, you then buy all the other things that you would have got from the other one.
985
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ไป–ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‹ใ‚‰ๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใงใ‚ใ‚ใ†ไป–ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ใ™ในใฆ่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
63:16
So they actually miss out massively
986
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซๅคงใใชใƒใƒฃใƒณใ‚นใ‚’้€ƒใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
63:19
because in the end you just give up and you think, Well, I might as well just go to Tesco.
987
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซใฏ่ซฆใ‚ใฆใ€ใ€Œ ใพใ‚ใ€ใƒ†ใ‚นใ‚ณใซ่กŒใ‘ใฐใ„ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
63:23
Okay, Might not be quite so up-market
988
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ใ‚ชใƒผใ‚ฑใƒผใ€
63:27
feeding when I go in, but at least I'll get everything I want
989
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็งใŒๅ…ฅใฃใŸใจใใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉ้ซ˜็ดšใช้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ ใŒใ€ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใฏใ™ในใฆๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€
63:31
and then you suddenly discover you're paying hundreds less,
990
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ใใ—ใฆ็ช็„ถใ€ ๆ”ฏๆ‰•ใฃใŸ้‡‘้กใŒไฝ•็™พใ‚‚ๅฎ‰ใใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใ€็ตๅฑ€ใ€
63:37
so you end up not going back to that last posh supermarket.
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใฎ้ซ˜็ดšใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซใฏๆˆปใ‚‰ใชใใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
63:42
You end up sticking to the one that was cheaper.
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็ตๅฑ€ใ€ๅฎ‰ใ„ๆ–นใ‚’ไฝฟใ„็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
63:46
So yes, anyway, that's my little rant.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใฎใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ—ใŸๆšด่จ€ใงใ™ใ€‚
63:49
It was everything.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ™ในใฆใ ใฃใŸใ€‚
63:50
It was everything.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใ™ในใฆใ ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณ
63:51
I was just giving you a break, Mr.
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ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจไผ‘ๆ†ฉใ•ใ›ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใฃใŸใ ใ‘ใชใ‚“ใงใ™
63:52
Duncan.
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ใ€‚
63:56
That was like the Unabomber's manifesto.
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ใใ‚ŒใฏใƒฆใƒŠใƒœใƒžใƒผใฎใƒžใƒ‹ใƒ•ใ‚งใ‚นใƒˆใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
64:00
Mr. English Addict is with you, by the way, today.
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ใกใชใฟใซใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏEnglish Addictใ•ใ‚“ใ‚‚ไธ€็ท’ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผไปฅๅค–ใซใ‚‚
64:03
And we are looking at lots of things besides supermarkets.
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ใ„ใ‚ใ„ใ‚ใชใ‚‚ใฎใซ็›ฎใ‚’ๅ‘ใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
64:07
But I thought it was interesting because we were in the supermarket
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใซ่กŒใฃใŸใฎใงใ€้ข็™ฝใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
64:11
yesterday.
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ใ€‚
64:15
Isn't that amazing?
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ใ”ใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
64:16
Let's just hope next week
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ๆฅ้€ฑใ€
64:19
my my subject will be slightly more scintillating.
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็งใฎไธป้กŒใŒใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—่ผใ‹ใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็ฅˆใ‚Šใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
64:23
We do have the big five, though, don't we?
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใƒ“ใƒƒใ‚ฐ 5 ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
64:25
We have Tesco. Sainsbury's.
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ใƒ†ใ‚นใ‚ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ปใ‚คใƒณใ‚บใƒ™ใƒชใƒผใ‚บใ€‚
64:28
I'm trying to think what the other ones are Aldi,
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ไป–ใซใฏAldiใ€
64:32
little Lidl, Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury's.
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lidlใ€Asdaใ€Tescoใ€Sainsbury'sใŒไฝ•ใชใฎใ‹่€ƒใˆไธญใงใ™ใ€‚
64:36
That's it. I just said that.
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ใใ‚ŒใงใŠใ—ใพใ„ใ€‚ ็งใฏใใ†่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
64:38
Tesco, Sainsbury's, Aldi, Lidl
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Tescoใ€Sainsbury'sใ€Aldiใ€Lidlใ€
64:41
and I think maybe Waitrose Co-op.
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ใใ—ใฆใŠใใ‚‰ใ Waitrose Co-op ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
64:44
Yeah.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
64:45
I'm not sure if Co-op is one of the big five
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Co-op ใŒใƒ“ใƒƒใ‚ฐ 5 ใฎ 1 ใคใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
64:48
but certainly Waitrose is in there I think. But,
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Waitrose ใŒใใฎไธญใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็ขบใ‹ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใงใ‚‚ใงใ‚‚ใ€
64:51
but it is interesting how supermarket sales
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64:55
have changed due to social changes
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65:00
such as people not having as much money as they used to.
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ไบบใ€…ใŒ ไปฅๅ‰ใปใฉใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใชใ„ใชใฉใฎ็คพไผšใฎๅค‰ๅŒ–ใซใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ€ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใฎๅฃฒไธŠใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ—ใŸใ‹ใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
65:04
I think so. Co-op, that's interesting.
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ใใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็”Ÿๅ”ใ€้ข็™ฝใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
65:07
We've always had a co-op in the in the UK,
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ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใซใฏไปฅๅ‰ใ‹ใ‚‰็”Ÿๅ”ใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™
65:10
but it was always seen as a very expensive place to shop.
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ใŒใ€ใ„ใคใ‚‚ ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ™ใ‚‹ใซใฏ้žๅธธใซ้ซ˜ไพกใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใ ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
65:13
I think it still is.
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ไปŠใ‚‚ใใ†ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
65:15
You think a co-op would be,
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็”Ÿๅ”ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใฏ
65:18
you know, on the same
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65:19
level a sort of Tesco or something, but
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ใƒ†ใ‚นใ‚ณใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
65:22
it's very expensive.
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้žๅธธใซ้ซ˜ไพกใงใ™ใ€‚
65:24
And I remember when I was growing up we had a co-op in the town where I grew up
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒๅญไพ›ใฎ้ ƒใ€ ็งใŒ่‚ฒใฃใŸ็”บใซ็”Ÿๅ”ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
65:28
and my mother would only ever go there if she was desperate for something.
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ๆฏใฏ ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๅฟ…่ฆใชๅ ดๅˆใซใฎใฟใใ“ใซ่กŒใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
65:32
She couldn't get somewhere else because it was always just very expensive.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏไป–ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใ“ใฏๅธธใซ้žๅธธใซ้ซ˜ไพกใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
65:37
I think they are still a bit, but they are.
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ใพใ ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
65:40
They are a co-operative, aren't they?
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅ”ๅŒ็ต„ๅˆใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
65:42
Yes, I'm not quite sure what that is,
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใชใฎใ‹ใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
65:45
but they are a bit different to the other supermarkets.
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ไป–ใฎใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใจใฏๅฐ‘ใ—็•ฐใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
65:49
I think they're owned by
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
65:52
their own business in a different way.
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ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใง่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใ‚’ๆ‰€ๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
65:55
Well, I think originally it was literally a co-operative, but of course
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ๅ…ƒใ€…ใฏ ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šๅ”ๅŒ็ต„ๅˆใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
65:59
part of the company moved into banking as well
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ไผš็คพใฎไธ€้ƒจใฏ้Š€่กŒๆฅญๅ‹™ใซใ‚‚้€ฒๅ‡บใ—ใ€
66:02
and they were involved in quite, quite a few scandals,
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Šใฎๆ•ฐใฎไธ็ฅฅไบ‹ใ€
66:07
one or two scandals, co-operative banking.
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1ใ€2ไปถใฎไธ็ฅฅไบ‹ใ€ๅ”ๅŒ็ต„ๅˆ้Š€่กŒๆฅญๅ‹™ใซ้–ขไธŽใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
66:10
But yes, this is I think I think it's a it's a mundane thing.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใฏใ„ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใตใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใ ใจ ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
66:15
I have to be honest.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
66:16
I don't like going supermarket shopping, which is why we we very rarely do it nowadays.
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็งใฏใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒžใƒผใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใซ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใซ่กŒใใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใงใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉ่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใ‚’ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
66:21
We normally order our groceries online.
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็งใŸใกใฏ้€šๅธธใ€้ฃŸๆ–™ๅ“ใ‚’ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงๆณจๆ–‡ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
66:26
Yes, last week we were in Liverpool
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๅ…ˆ้€ฑ็งใŸใกใฏใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€
66:30
and I can't resist showing you this again,
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใŠ่ฆ‹ใ›ใ›ใšใซใฏใ„ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
66:34
some of the sites and some of the music, it sounds very familiar,
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ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใจใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ้Ÿณๆฅฝใฏใ€ ้žๅธธใซ้ฆดๆŸ“ใฟใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใซ่žใ“ใˆใ€1960ๅนดไปฃใซ่žใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„
66:40
very similar to the music
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้Ÿณๆฅฝใซ้žๅธธใซไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™
66:43
that you may have heard during the 1960s.
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ใ€‚
66:46
And then more of this
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ใ•ใ‚‰ใซ
68:34
It is amazing to think all of that was filmed
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ใใฎใ™ในใฆใŒ็งใฎๅฐใ•ใชๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใงๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใจๆ€ใ†ใจ้ฉšใใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
68:38
on my little mobile phone
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68:41
and that is the reason why I love technology so much.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒใƒ†ใ‚ฏใƒŽใƒญใ‚ธใƒผใ‚’ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆ„›ใ™ใ‚‹็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
68:44
Isn't it amazing? You just couldn't.
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ใ™ใ”ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ ใใ‚ŒใŒใงใใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
68:46
You could just take your phone out of your pocket and you can film like that.
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ๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚’ใƒใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ–ใ‚Šๅ‡บใ™ใ ใ‘ใงใ€ ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ’ฎๅฝฑใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
68:51
Amazing.
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ใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚
68:54
It is English addicts
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68:55
on a Sunday afternoon where anything can happen and quite often it does.
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ้žๅธธใซๅคšใ„ๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใฎๅˆๅพŒใฏใ€่‹ฑ่ชžไธญๆฏ’่€…ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็ง
69:00
There's myself and of course we are joined by Mr.
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่‡ช่บซใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ๆฐใ‚‚ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใพใ™
69:05
Steve.
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69:06
There he is looking cool and relaxed in his little corner
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69:12
when he had seen me before the start of the live stream.
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ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใŒๅง‹ใพใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซ็งใซไผšใฃใŸใจใใ€ๅฝผใฏๅฐใ•ใช้š…ใงใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใงใƒชใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใ—ใŸ่กจๆƒ…ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
69:16
But we won't go into that.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฏ่งฆใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
69:19
Who is sinner?
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็ฝชไบบใจใฏ่ชฐใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
69:21
He's won the Australian Open, says Francesca.
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ๅฝผใฏๅ…จ่ฑชใ‚ชใƒผใƒ—ใƒณใงๅ„ชๅ‹ใ—ใŸใจใƒ•ใƒฉใƒณใƒใ‚งใ‚นใ‚ซใฏ่จ€ใ†ใ€‚
69:24
I see.
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ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€‚
69:26
I'm guessing he's a tennis player.
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ๅฝผใฏใƒ†ใƒ‹ใ‚น้ธๆ‰‹ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
69:28
Might be wrong.
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้–“้•ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
69:31
He deserved it, says Roser.
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ๅฝผใฏใใ‚Œใซๅ€คใ™ใ‚‹ใ€ใจใƒญใƒผใ‚ถใƒผใฏ่จ€ใ†ใ€‚
69:32
So he must be.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅฝผใ‚‚ใใ†ใซ้•ใ„ใชใ„ใ€‚
69:33
Is he Italian?
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ๅฝผใฏใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขไบบใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
69:37
More information.
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่ฉณใ—ใใฏใ€‚
69:38
Places were ignorant when it comes to sport.
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ๅ ดๆ‰€ใฏใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏ็„ก็Ÿฅใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
69:41
Well I don't follow tennis.
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ใพใ‚ใ€็งใฏใƒ†ใƒ‹ใ‚นใซใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
69:43
I don't follow tennis at all.
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็งใฏใƒ†ใƒ‹ใ‚นใ‚’ใพใฃใŸใใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒญใƒผใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
69:44
I know that the open was was on but I to be honest with you,
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ใ‚ชใƒผใƒ—ใƒณๆˆฆใŒ้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใฎใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€ๆญฃ็›ดใซ
69:49
I don't really follow tennis or
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่จ€ใ†ใจใ€็งใฏใƒ†ใƒ‹ใ‚นใ‚„
69:54
to be honest, any sport.
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ใใฎไป–ใฎใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใซใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Š่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
69:57
If I was bluntly honest with you, yes,
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็Ž‡็›ดใซๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€
70:01
we did have a good time in Liverpool, even under the weather was crazy, Christina says.
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ใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใงใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€ ใŸใจใˆๅคฉๆฐ—ใŒ็•ฐๅธธใ ใฃใŸใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒŠใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
70:06
I went to visit the Cavern.
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ๆดž็ชŸใธ้Šใณใซ่กŒใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
70:09
There is an interesting story about the Cavern Club
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ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒใƒผใƒณใƒปใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ–ใซใคใ„ใฆใฏ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„่ฉฑใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
70:13
because originally it was built underground
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ใ‚‚ใจใ‚‚ใจใ“ใฎใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ–ใฏๅœฐไธ‹ใซๅปบ่จญใ•ใ‚Œใ€
70:17
and then Liverpool Council decided, they want to
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ใใฎๅพŒใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซ่ฉ•่ญฐไผšใŒ
70:21
they wanted to build a huge tunnel underneath.
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ๅœฐไธ‹ใซๅทจๅคงใชใƒˆใƒณใƒใƒซใ‚’ๅปบ่จญใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆฑบๅฎšใ—ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
70:24
It was never built. It was never completed.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆฑบใ—ใฆๅปบใฆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๆฑบใ—ใฆๅฎŒๆˆใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
70:27
But they had to close the Cavern Club down and then fill everything in.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ญใƒฃใƒใƒผใƒณ ใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ–ใ‚’้–‰้Ž–ใ—ใ€ ใ™ในใฆใ‚’ๅŸ‹ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
70:33
And then years later they
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ใใ—ใฆๆ•ฐๅนดๅพŒใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
70:35
excavated it and everything has been swapped around.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’็™บๆŽ˜ใ—ใ€ใ™ในใฆใŒไบคๆ›ใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
70:39
So the, the entrance that was
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅ…ฅใ‚Šๅฃใ ใฃใŸๅ…ฅใ‚ŠๅฃใŒ
70:43
the entrance is now the exit.
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ๅ‡บๅฃใซใชใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
70:46
It's where you come out.
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ใใ“ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ‡บใฆใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
70:47
If there's a fire and there is a new entrance
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็ซ็ฝใŒ็™บ็”Ÿใ—ใ€
70:51
further down the road which you saw in the video.
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใง่ฆ‹ใŸ้“่ทฏใฎใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅ…ˆใซๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅ…ฅใ‚ŠๅฃใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€‚
70:54
But I did notice that there seemed to be a lot of pubs, maybe too many pubs and restaurants
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใฏใƒ‘ใƒ–ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใƒ“ใƒผใƒˆใƒซใ‚บใซใกใชใ‚“ใ ๅๅ‰ใฎ ใƒ‘ใƒ–ใ‚„ใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใŒๅคšใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
71:00
all with names referring to the Beatles.
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71:05
I also noticed that there was no one there.
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็งใ‚‚ใใ“ใซ่ชฐใ‚‚ใ„ใชใ„ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:07
It was almost empty.
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ใปใผ็ฉบใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:09
So you may noticed in the video
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใงใฏใ€
71:11
there weren't many people actually walking around, but it is.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๆญฉใๅ›žใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใชใ„ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๆญฉใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
71:15
I'm sure it's lovely when the weather is nice.
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ๅคฉๆฐ—ใŒ่‰ฏใ„ใจใใฃใจ็ด ๆ•ตใงใ™ใญใ€‚
71:19
Unfortunately, we decided to go to Liverpool when the weather was awful.
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ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€ๅคฉๆฐ—ใŒๆ‚ชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใซใ—ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
71:24
It was so wet and windy.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฟกใ‚Œใฆใ„ใฆ้ขจใŒๅผทใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
71:27
I can't tell you how bad it was.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใฉใ‚Œใปใฉใฒใฉใ‹ใฃใŸใ‹ใฏ่จ€่‘‰ใงใฏ่จ€ใ„่กจใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
71:29
In fact, I'm surprised that I managed to fill in anything,
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ๆญฃ็›ดใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚ใฒใฉใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใง ใ€ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ๅŸ‹ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใซ้ฉšใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™
71:33
to be honest, because it was so bad.
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71:36
One highlight for me was the an Italian restaurant that we went to.
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็งใซใจใฃใฆใฎใƒใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒˆใฎ 1 ใคใฏใ€ ็งใŸใกใŒ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใƒณใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:41
Now it's I can't remember its full name.
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ไปŠใจใชใฃใฆใฏใƒ•ใƒซใƒใƒผใƒ ใŒๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
71:44
It was something blue,
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ใใ‚Œใฏ
71:48
an Italian restaurant in Liverpool.
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ใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใƒณใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ€ใ‚ตใƒ ใ‚ทใƒณใ‚ฐใƒ–ใƒซใƒผใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
71:50
It was, I would say without
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ€
71:54
any doubt would say it was the best
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71:56
Italian restaurant I've ever been to.
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็งใŒไปŠใพใง่กŒใฃใŸไธญใงๆœ€้ซ˜ใฎใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขๆ–™็†ใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ ใฃใŸใจ่จ€ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
72:00
I'm giving them a plug even though I can't remember their name.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๅๅ‰ใฏๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใซใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚ฐใ‚’ไธŽใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
72:03
Something blue.
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ไฝ•ใ‹้’ใ„ใ€‚
72:04
Maybe somebody can look it up.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰่ชฐใ‹ใŒ่ชฟในใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
72:05
Italian restaurant in Liverpool.
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ใƒชใƒใƒ—ใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใƒณใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ€‚
72:07
It was spectacular.
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ๅฃฎ่ฆณใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
72:10
The food was absolutely gorgeous.
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้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่ฑช่ฏใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
72:13
I had.
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ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
72:14
They were all laughing at me,
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็งใŒ
72:18
my work colleagues,
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72:19
because I had as my main course lasagne,
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ใƒกใ‚คใƒณใ‚ณใƒผใ‚นใจใ—ใฆใƒฉใ‚ถใƒ‹ใ‚ขใ‚’้ฃŸในใŸใฎใงใ€่ทๅ ดใฎๅŒๅƒšใŸใกใฏ็š†ใ€็งใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆ็ฌ‘ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใƒฉใ‚ถใƒ‹ใ‚ขใฏใ€
72:25
which is,
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72:27
I would say, the most obvious choice
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72:30
that you could have for an Italian meal for a British person.
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ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นไบบใซใจใฃใฆใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขๆ–™็†ใจใ—ใฆๆœ€ใ‚‚ๅฝ“็„ถใฎ้ธๆŠž่‚ขใ ใจ่จ€ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
72:34
You think of the average British person,
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ๅนณๅ‡็š„ใชใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นไบบใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๆตฎใ‹ในใ‚‹
72:38
and if you mention Italian food, they will say
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ใจใ€ใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขๆ–™็†ใจ่จ€ใˆใฐ
72:43
lasagne, of course.
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ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใƒฉใ‚ถใƒ‹ใ‚ขใจ็ญ”ใˆใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
72:45
And so they were also having all sorts
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
72:47
of things on that menu, loads of different things.
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ใใฎใƒกใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹็จฎ้กžใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ€ใ•ใพใ–ใพใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
72:51
I could have ordered Italian food, I ordered lasagne.
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ใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขๆ–™็†ใ‚’ๆณจๆ–‡ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€็งใฏใƒฉใ‚ถใƒ‹ใ‚ขใ‚’ๆณจๆ–‡ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
72:54
They were all laughing at me.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็š†ใ€็งใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆ็ฌ‘ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
72:56
And yet when that lasagne arrived, they were all jealous.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใฎใƒฉใ‚ถใƒ‹ใ‚ขใŒๅˆฐ็€ใ—ใŸใจใใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็š†ๅซ‰ๅฆฌใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
73:02
Mr. Duncan because it was the most gorgeous homemade
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
73:08
lasagne I've ever tasted in my life.
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็งใŒไบบ็”Ÿใงๅ‘ณใ‚ใฃใŸไธญใงๆœ€ใ‚‚ใ‚ดใƒผใ‚ธใƒฃใ‚นใช่‡ชๅฎถ่ฃฝใƒฉใ‚ถใƒ‹ใ‚ขใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
73:11
And I would drive all the way back there just to go to that restaurant again.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใใฎใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใซ่กŒใใŸใ‚ใ ใ‘ใซใ€ใใ“ใพใง่ปŠใงๆˆปใฃใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
73:17
If only I could remember the name of it.
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ใใฎๅๅ‰ใ•ใˆ่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ€‚
73:19
I know where it is.
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ใฉใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
73:20
It was very near to a particular bar.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็‰นๅฎšใฎใƒใƒผใฎใ™ใ่ฟ‘ใใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
73:25
Mr. Duncan I'm boring. Mr. Duncan.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€้€€ๅฑˆใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
73:27
It's nice.
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ใ„ใ„ใญใ€‚
73:28
Just the details are so random and sketchy.
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็ดฐ้ƒจใ ใ‘ใŒ้žๅธธใซใƒฉใƒณใƒ€ใƒ ใงๅคงใ–ใฃใฑใงใ™ใ€‚
73:31
Anyway, it was a lovely Italian restaurant, so. Right.
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ใจใซใ‹ใ็ด ๆ•ตใชใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใƒณใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅณใ€‚
73:34
So the amazing restaurant that Steve can't remember the name of.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒๅๅ‰ใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใชใ„็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใงใ™ใ€‚
73:38
But it's an amazing place.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ™ใ”ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
73:40
The best restaurant Mr.
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73:42
Steve's ever been to.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใŒไปŠใพใง่กŒใฃใŸไธญใงๆœ€้ซ˜ใฎใƒฌใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ€‚
73:44
And we don't know what it's called.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
73:47
Something blue.
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ไฝ•ใ‹้’ใ„ใ€‚
73:48
Okay. Yes.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
73:49
was it Rave Blue?
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ใƒฌใ‚คใƒ–ใƒ–ใƒซใƒผใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใช๏ผŸ
73:51
I think it was Giovanni Reve Blue.
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ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใƒปใƒฌใƒผใƒดใƒปใƒ–ใƒซใƒผใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
73:54
I think it was.
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็งใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใใ†ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ†ใ€‚
73:55
I didn't go, by the way, because this was for for Mr.
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ใกใชใฟใซใ€็งใฏ่กŒใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
73:58
Steve's work colleagues, not for not for me.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎไป•ไบ‹ไปฒ้–“ใฎใŸใ‚ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€็งใฎใŸใ‚ใงใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใ€‚
74:01
A paupers like me very, very, very clever of you to to
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็งใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช่ฒงไนไบบใฏใ€
74:08
to find
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74:08
that the name of that it was, it was Reve or Rive Blue.
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ใใฎๅๅ‰ใŒใƒฌใƒผใƒดใ€ใพใŸใฏใƒชใƒดใƒปใƒ–ใƒซใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใŸใฎใฏใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚่ณขใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
74:11
Anyway, it was spectacular.
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ใจใซใ‹ใๅฃฎ่ฆณใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
74:16
I would say probably one of the nicest mirrors I've ever had out.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใ ็งใŒไปŠใพใงๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸ้กใฎไธญใงๆœ€ใ‚‚็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„้กใฎไธ€ใคใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
74:20
Start a mango.
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ใƒžใƒณใ‚ดใƒผๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ™ใ€‚
74:21
Everything was just gorgeous and.
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ใฉใ‚Œใ‚‚ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
74:24
Yeah, okay.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ™ในใฆใฎไผๆฅญใซๅฏพใ—ใฆใ€
74:25
I think we've given given enough promotions now to the all of these businesses. Yes.
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ๅๅˆ†ใชใƒ—ใƒญใƒขใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆใใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
74:31
We don't get a penny for any of this.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใงใฏไธ€้Šญใ‚‚ๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
74:33
So So maybe next time we contact the businesses first
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๆฌกๅ›žใฏใ€ใพใšไผๆฅญใซ้€ฃ็ตกใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎไผๆฅญใฎ
74:38
and then ask them if we can talk about their business and then they can pay us for mentioning it.
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ใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‹ๅฐ‹ใญใ‚‹ใจใ€ใใฎไผๆฅญ ใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใŸๅฏพไพกใ‚’ๆ”ฏๆ‰•ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
74:44
But no more.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ใ ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
74:46
No more free promotions, please, for businesses.
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ไผๆฅญๅ‘ใ‘ใฎ็„กๆ–™ใƒ—ใƒญใƒขใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฏใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚„ใ‚ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
74:48
Yes, it was Giovanni And we're going to Italian themed today, haven't we?
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใ‚’ใƒ†ใƒผใƒžใซ่กŒใใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
74:53
Because Francesca has answered our question
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใƒ•ใƒฉใƒณใƒใ‚งใ‚นใ‚ซใฏ็งใŸใกใฎ่ณชๅ•ใซใ€
74:57
that it was the first Italian player to win for 48 years.
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48ๅนดใถใ‚Šใฎๅ„ชๅ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขไบบ้ธๆ‰‹ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ็ญ”ใˆใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
75:03
Okay, So congratulations.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใŠใ‚ใงใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
75:07
Maybe.
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ๅคšๅˆ†ใ€‚
75:08
Maybe he had lasagne from Reve Blue Restaurant.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅฝผใฏReve Blue Restaurantใฎใƒฉใ‚ถใƒ‹ใ‚ขใ‚’้ฃŸในใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
75:12
Maybe got that in in Italy.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒชใ‚ขใงๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
75:16
But anyway, it must have given him lots of energy.
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ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝผใซๅคšใใฎใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ‚’ไธŽใˆใŸใซ้•ใ„ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
75:18
Yes.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚
75:22
Lovely. That was it. I'm going.
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็ด ๆ•ตใชใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใใ‚Œใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ็งใฏ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
75:23
We're going back there again, Mr. Duncan.
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ใพใŸใใ“ใซๆˆปใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
75:26
Yeah, I'll go there for my birthday.
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ใใ†ใ ใ€่ช•็”Ÿๆ—ฅใซใฏใใ“ใซ่กŒใใ‚ˆใ€‚
75:28
That's what I want to go for. My birthday.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒ่กŒใใŸใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฎ่ช•็”Ÿๆ—ฅใ€‚
75:30
And I did mention earlier that I don't like February,
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ๅ…ˆใปใฉใ€็งใฏ 2 ๆœˆใŒๅฅฝใใงใฏใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€
75:34
and the reason why I don't like February is because it's a short month.
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ใชใœ 2 ๆœˆใŒๅซŒใ„ใชใฎใ‹ใจใ„ใ†ใจใ€ ๆœˆใŒ็Ÿญใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
75:37
The weather's normally horrible, but of course it is Mr.
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ใ„ใคใ‚‚ใฏใฒใฉใ„ๅคฉๆฐ—ใงใ™ใŒใ€ ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“
75:41
Steve's birthday.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎ่ช•็”Ÿๆ—ฅใงใ™ใ€‚
75:43
Next. Thanks.
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ๆฌกใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚ ใพใ 
75:45
I haven't finished the sentence, but there you go.
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ๆ–‡ใŒ็ต‚ใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใง็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
75:47
There.
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ใใ“ใซใฏใ€‚
75:48
But you start to the sense of saying I don't like February and they had it in.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ 2ๆœˆใฏๅซŒใ„ใ ใจ่จ€ใ„ๅง‹ใ‚ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
75:52
It's Mr.
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75:53
Steve's birthday Just because I forgot that is also included.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฎ่ช•็”Ÿๆ—ฅใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใจใ„ใ†็†็”ฑใ‚‚ๅซใพใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
75:58
But that's not the bad thing.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆ‚ชใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
76:00
So the bad thing for me is always the weather.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใซใจใฃใฆๆ‚ชใ„ใฎใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ๅคฉๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ€‚
76:03
It's always gloomy during February.
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2ๆœˆใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ๆ†‚้ฌฑใงใ™ใ€‚
76:05
I don't like January, to be honest.
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ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€1ๆœˆใฏๅฅฝใใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
76:07
I should be so glad when this month is finished.
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ไปŠๆœˆใŒ็ต‚ใ‚ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใฏใšใงใ™ใ€‚
76:10
And then of course we can move into the the spring season.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆ˜ฅใฎๅญฃ็ฏ€ใซ็งปใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
76:14
I can't wait for spring time to arrive.
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ๆ˜ฅใฎๅˆฐๆฅใŒๅพ…ใกใใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
76:19
If I was honest with you as Giovanni apologising, I don't know, I.
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ใ‚ธใƒงใƒใƒณใƒ‹ใŒ่ฌใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใซ็งใŒๆญฃ็›ดใซ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏ ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใ‚‚
76:25
Maybe I missed something too.
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹้€ƒใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
76:29
Steve. You definitely missed something.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹้€ƒใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
76:32
Yes, that's true.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
76:39
I'm feeling hungry now.
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็งใฏไปŠใŠ่…นใŒ็ฉบใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
76:40
I want to send you.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’้€ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
76:41
Well, you can always go and get something from the kitchen.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ใ„ใคใงใ‚‚ใ‚ญใƒƒใƒใƒณใซไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
76:44
There. Let me keep you.
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ใใ“ใซใฏใ€‚ ้ฃผใ‚ใ›ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
76:46
I'll hold you back.
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็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๅผ•ใ็•™ใ‚ใพใ™ใ€‚
76:48
You know,
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76:50
in a moment, we're talking about something very serious, by the way.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ไปŠใ‹ใ‚‰ ็งใŸใกใฏ้žๅธธใซๆทฑๅˆปใชใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
76:53
So very serious.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚็œŸๅ‰ฃใงใ™ใ€‚
76:55
Apparently here in the UK, politicians and members of the general public
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ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใ‚‰ใ“ใ“่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏใ€ๆ”ฟๆฒปๅฎถ ใ‚„ไธ€่ˆฌใฎไบบใ€…ใŒๆญปๅˆ‘ใ‚’ๅพฉๆดปใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ็ตž้ฆ–ๅˆ‘ใ‚’ๅพฉๆดปใ•ใ›ใ‚‹
77:00
have been debating whether or not to bring back hanging
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ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใ 
77:07
to bring back
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77:09
capital punishment. yes.
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ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
77:13
They've been talking about this as a way of
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใ€
77:16
putting people off, committing horrible crimes.
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ไบบใ€…ใ‚’้ ใ–ใ‘ใ€ๆใ‚ใ—ใ„็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ™ๆ–นๆณ•ใจใ—ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
77:20
All of that coming in a few moments.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใ™ในใฆใ€ใ™ใใซๅฎŒไบ†ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ
78:08
You will be sentenced
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78:10
a capital sentence, as they say.
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่จ€ใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆฅตๅˆ‘ใ‚’ๅฎฃๅ‘Šใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
78:15
And that doesn't mean
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78:17
that all of the letters are in capital letters.
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ใ™ในใฆใฎๆ–‡ๅญ—ใŒๅคงๆ–‡ๅญ—ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
78:21
So it's it's it's not that kind of capital.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช่ณ‡ๆœฌใงใฏใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
78:25
So, yes, we've been debating this.
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ใฏใ„ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใƒณ
78:27
Not not Mr.
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78:28
Stephen, myself, we haven't been debating it, but generally people
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ใ€็ง่‡ช่บซใ‚‚ใ€ ็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€่‹ฑๅ›ฝใง
78:33
have been talking about whether or not to make certain punishments stricter
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็‰นๅฎšใฎๅˆ‘็ฝฐใ‚’ๅŽณๆ ผๅŒ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆใฏไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใซ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใใพใ—ใŸ
78:40
in the UK.
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78:41
Some people very strict.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅŽณใ—ใ„ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
78:44
okay, carry on.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€็ถšใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
78:47
Hello Mr.
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78:47
Duncan here in the in the UK,
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€
ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใ“่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏ
78:51
some people want to bring back capital punishment.
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ๆญปๅˆ‘ใ‚’ๅพฉๆดปใ•ใ›ใŸใ„ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
78:56
They want to bring it back.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๆˆปใ—ใŸใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
78:58
When we talk about capital punishment, it of course we,
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็งใŸใกใŒๆญปๅˆ‘ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“
79:01
we talk about the death sentence.
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ๆญปๅˆ‘ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:04
So if a person commits a certain type of crime,
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ไบบใŒ็‰นๅฎšใฎ็จฎ้กžใฎ็Šฏ็ฝชใ€
79:07
serious crime, they will be
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้‡ๅคงใช็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใฎไบบใฏ
79:11
executed.
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ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ•ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ ไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ
79:14
now we used to do this until the late 1960s, believe it or not.
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ใ€1960 ๅนดไปฃๅพŒๅŠใพใงใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
79:19
Yes, it's true. I'm Not joking.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใ ใ€‚ ๅ†—่ซ‡ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚ ใ“ใ“ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใงใฏ
79:21
So we did actually have capital punishment here in the UK.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๆญปๅˆ‘ใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€
79:25
I think it was until was it the late sixties or late fifties, Steve?
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60ๅนดไปฃๅพŒๅŠใ‹50ๅนดไปฃๅพŒๅŠใพใงใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ?
79:30
I think it was the late 1950s.
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1950ๅนดไปฃๅพŒๅŠใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:32
I've got now I've got I've got a feeling people were still being
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€ ไบบใ€…ใฏใพใ ็ตž้ฆ–ๅˆ‘ใซใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆฐ—ใŒใ™ใ‚‹
79:37
hung.
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79:38
That's how we do it in the UK in the 1960s.
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1960ๅนดไปฃใฎ่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏใใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
79:43
I'm sure they were.
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79:44
Mr. Duncan because I thought it was about 67.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€็งใฏ 67 ๆญณใใ‚‰ใ„ใ ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€‚
79:48
Yes, I think you probably right.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่จ€ใ†้€šใ‚Šใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
79:49
But at that point I think they were only giving
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79:53
that sort of sentence to people who had committed terrible,
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ๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ใ€
79:58
terrible acts of,
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ใฒใฉใ„่กŒ็‚บใ€
80:01
well, crime, basically very, very serious things.
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ใคใพใ‚Š็Šฏ็ฝชใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซ้žๅธธใซๆทฑๅˆปใชใ“ใจใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใŸไบบใ€…ใซๅฏพใ—ใฆใฎใฟใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช้‡ๅˆ‘ใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใ„ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
80:06
But we are thinking of it.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
80:07
It's it is amazing how many countries still have it in place.
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ไปŠใงใ‚‚ใ“ใฎๅˆถๅบฆใ‚’ๅฐŽๅ…ฅใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ›ฝใŒใ„ใ‹ใซๅคšใ„ใ‹ใฏ้ฉšใในใใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
80:12
And did you know, Steve, that the Isle of Man?
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใƒžใƒณๅณถใฃใฆ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
80:16
I think the Isle of Man was one of the last places
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ใƒžใƒณๅณถใฏ่‹ฑๅ›ฝใ‚„ใ“ใฎๅœฐๅŸŸใงๅฎŸ้š›ใซๆญปๅˆ‘ใ‚’ๅปƒๆญขใ—ๅปƒๆญขใ—ใŸๆœ€ๅพŒใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎไธ€ใคใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹
80:20
in Britain or around this area to actually get rid
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80:25
and abolish capital punishment?
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?
80:28
I think was some I'm sure it was in the mid 1980s.
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็ขบใ‹1980ๅนดไปฃๅŠใฐใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
80:33
They actually still had capital punishment
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใƒžใƒณๅณถใงใฏใพใ ๆญปๅˆ‘ใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒ
80:36
in the Isle of Man, but did they actually act accused anybody?
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ใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ๅ‘Š็™บใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใช่กŒๅ‹•ใ‚’ใจใฃใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
80:40
I don't think they did that, but they still had it there as a deterrent. Yes.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใงใ‚‚ ๆŠ‘ๆญขๅŠ›ใจใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
80:45
So that is the reason.
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80:47
That's a good word, by the way, Steve.
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ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใญใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
80:48
It is. I thought that's why I thought I'd use it.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ๅˆฉ็”จใ—ใฆใฟใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
80:52
Yes. It's a deterrent.
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใฏๆŠ‘ๆญขๅŠ›ใงใ™ใ€‚ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ™ใฎใ‚’
80:53
You're trying to deter or put off
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ๆ€ใ„ใจใฉใพใ‚‰ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅ…ˆๅปถใฐใ—ใซใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎ
80:58
somebody from committing a crime
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81:01
because the the you could possibly lose your life if you did.
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ใฏใ€็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ† ใจๅ‘ฝใ‚’่ฝใจใ™ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
81:06
So, Yeah, it is it is the ultimate punishment when you think about it.
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ใใ†ใ€ ่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใ‚Œใฐใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ฉถๆฅตใฎ็ฝฐใงใ™ใ€‚
81:11
But it is amazing how many countries around the world right now.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ ็พๅœจไธ–็•Œไธญใซใ“ใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใฎๅ›ฝใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใซใฏ้ฉšใใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
81:14
Yeah.
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81:15
Still have capital punishment
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ไปŠใงใ‚‚ๆญปๅˆ‘ใฏๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€
81:19
and and this is one of the things that has been debated for many years.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้•ทๅนด่ญฐ่ซ–ใ•ใ‚ŒใฆใใŸใ“ใจใฎไธ€ใคใงใ™ ใ€‚
81:23
We've seen this happen before, haven't we, Steve,
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็งใŸใกใฏไปฅๅ‰ใซใ‚‚ใ“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€
81:26
where people debate these subjects,
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ใใ“ใงใฏไบบใ€…ใŒใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒ†ใƒผใƒžใซใคใ„ใฆ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€
81:30
but every ten years, so about every ten years, these things always come around again.
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10ๅนดใ”ใจใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใปใผ10ๅนดใ”ใจใซใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใฏๅธธใซๅ†ใณ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
81:36
So once more we are all talking about it so
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ใใ“ใงใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใ€็งใŸใกๅ…จๅ“กใŒใ“ใฎไปถใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ๅˆใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€
81:40
certain employees or members of Parliament
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ไธ€้ƒจใฎๅพ“ๆฅญๅ“กใ‚„ๅ›ฝไผš่ญฐๅ“กใŒใ€
81:43
want to actually bring in some sort of referendum
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ
81:47
where people can decide if we bring it back.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅพฉๆดปใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚’ๅ›ฝๆฐ‘ใŒๆฑบใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎๅ›ฝๆฐ‘ๆŠ•็ฅจใ‚’ๅฐŽๅ…ฅใ—ใŸใ„ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
81:51
I don't think it's ever going to happen because I think it is a big step backwards
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆฑบใ—ใฆ่ตทใ“ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ ๅคงใใชๅพŒ้€€ใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
81:56
because what if and this
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
81:58
the big one, Steve, what if you get the wrong person
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ๅคงใใชไธ€ๆญฉใงใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ้–“้•ใฃใŸไบบใ‚’ๆ•ใพใˆใฆใ€
82:03
and it has happened.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
82:04
We have had many instances in the past
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้ŽๅŽปใซใฏใ€็Šฏใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„
82:08
where people have gone to prison for crimes
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็ฝชใงๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใ€
82:11
that they did not commit
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82:14
and they were a life later they were pardoned.
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ๅ‘ฝใ‚’่ฝใจใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰่ตฆใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใจใ„ใ†ไพ‹ใŒๆ•ฐๅคšใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
82:18
But unfortunately, with capital punishment,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€ๆญปๅˆ‘ใฎๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€
82:21
you can't really reverse the sentence
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82:25
because then you've you've already ended that person's life.
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ใ™ใงใซ ใใฎไบบใฎไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’็ต‚ใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ๅˆคๆฑบใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๆถˆใ™ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
82:30
So I think I think it is a very, I would say,
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
82:33
controversial subject for for many people.
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ๅคšใใฎไบบใซใจใฃใฆใ€้žๅธธใซ็‰ฉ่ญฐใ‚’้†ธใ™ใƒ†ใƒผใƒžใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
82:36
But it does come around now and again.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆ™‚ใ€…ใ‚„ใฃใฆๆฅใพใ™ใ€‚
82:40
Yes. So I wonder I wonder if anyone is watching
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82:44
in a country where they have it.
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82:47
Yeah.
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82:48
Do so so do you live in a country
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ใใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใพใ ๆญปๅˆ‘ๅˆถๅบฆใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ›ฝใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ‹
82:51
where they still have capital punishment?
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๏ผŸ
82:54
That means if you commit a serious crime, then if
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ้‡ๅคงใช็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
83:00
anybody, Fernandez says.
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่ชฐใงใ‚ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใใ†ใชใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ ใ€ใจใƒ•ใ‚งใƒซใƒŠใƒณใƒ‡ใ‚นๆฐใฏ่จ€ใ†ใ€‚
83:02
The last execution in the UK was 1965.
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่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฎๆœ€ๅพŒใฎๆญปๅˆ‘ๅŸท่กŒใฏ 1965 ๅนดใงใ—ใŸ
83:07
I see.
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83:10
Of course we are. Yes.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ›ฝใงใฏ
83:12
Please tell us if you still have capital punishment in your country.
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ใพใ ๆญปๅˆ‘ๅˆถๅบฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚
83:17
We, of course, that America does.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซใ‚‚ใใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
83:20
Many states, the United States in the United States.
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83:24
And in fact, this week they they executed somebody
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ใใ—ใฆๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ไปŠ้€ฑๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
83:30
trying to buy a new car,
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ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„่ปŠใ‚’่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใŸไบบ็‰ฉใ‚’ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ—ใ€
83:32
trying out a new method.
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83:34
Okay.
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83:35
Because it what did they do?
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83:38
Did they tickle him, tickled him to death? No.
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83:41
I mean, bearing in mind this this particular person has been on what they called death row,
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83:47
which is the place you go when you're white,
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83:50
when you've been sentenced to be executed, and you wait there
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83:55
and he's been there since about 1995 or something.
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ๅฝผใฏๆญปๅˆ‘ๅˆคๆฑบใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ 1995ๅนดใใ‚‰ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
83:59
So it's 20 odd years before
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84:02
it's got to the point where these appealed and whatever
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84:06
are the common way
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ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ‚ใ‚‹
84:08
over there in America is lethal injection.
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84:13
They used to use electrocution, didn't they?
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84:16
But they use lethal injection.
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84:17
But they tried it on this person and it didn't work.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ“ใฎไบบใซใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใ†ใพใใ„ใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
84:21
So they they decided to try suffocating him with nitrogen gas.
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84:25
Okay.
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84:26
And it was pretty horrendous by all accounts.
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84:32
Okay.
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84:33
Is there a nice way of doing it, though?
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹่‰ฏใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใฏใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
84:37
I mean, I can't think of any sort of execution, which would be nice.
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84:41
Well, I think lethal injection is quite.
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84:43
Is it nice, humane?
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84:45
The lovely, I think, you know, I mean, you wouldn't want it, obviously,
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ๆ„›ใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใฏใ€ ๆ˜Žใ‚‰ใ‹ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใง
84:49
but I don't think you suffer that when given a lethal injection of whatever it is.
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84:55
But you know, I've always I mean in the UK
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84:58
we always used to use hanging which I think is Yes.
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85:02
A bit like the guillotine in it's a very sort of dramatic
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ใ‚ฎใƒญใƒใƒณใซๅฐ‘ใ—ไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€้žๅธธใซๅŠ‡็š„ใช
85:08
way of, of being killed isn't it.
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ๆฎบใ•ใ‚Œๆ–นใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
85:11
it's, it's, it's, it's dramatic but also quite quick I think I think actually
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏๅŠ‡็š„ใงใ™ใŒใ€้žๅธธใซ้€Ÿใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‹ใชใ‚Š้€Ÿใ„ใฎใงใ€ ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ
85:16
the guillotine is the best one because it's pretty quick.
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ใ‚ฎใƒญใƒใƒณใŒๆœ€้ฉใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
85:20
So there's no doubt that that is going to kill you.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๆฎบใ™ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏ็–‘ใ„ใฎไฝ™ๅœฐใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ้ฆ–ใ‚’
85:23
Whereas hanging sometimes you, you know, you don't always die straight away.
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ๅŠใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ ใ™ใใซๆญปใฌใจใฏ้™ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
85:26
You sort of well, well,
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใพใ‚ใ€
85:29
she was thrashing around for quite a while.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š้•ทใ„้–“ใƒใ‚ฟใƒใ‚ฟใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใญใ€‚
85:32
So we're talking about execution of everyone else on the live chat, talking about tennis.
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ใใ‚Œใง็งใŸใกใฏใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใงไป–ใฎๅ…จๅ“กใฎๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‚Š ใ€ใƒ†ใƒ‹ใ‚นใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
85:37
Well, some people might say that they are similar things.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ ไผผใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจใ„ใ†ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚
85:42
Yeah.
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85:43
So yeah, we want to know if you still got
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ›ฝใงใพใ ๆญปๅˆ‘ใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹็Ÿฅใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€
85:47
capital punishment in your country and if so, what is the preferred method
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85:52
in in Italy?
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?
85:56
Says Slattery.
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ใ‚นใƒฉใƒƒใƒ†ใƒชใƒผๆฐใฏ่จ€ใ†ใ€‚
85:57
It was shooting all right.
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ๆ’ฎๅฝฑใฏ้ †่ชฟใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
86:00
I think that's quite quick.
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Š้€Ÿใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
86:01
I think that's fairly quick.
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86:03
I think I'd go for lethal injection if I had a choice.
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้ธๆŠž่‚ขใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ่‡ดๆญปๆณจๅฐ„ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
86:07
Okay. Hopefully, I will never have to face that.
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86:10
So unless you're thinking of committing any serious crime,
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ้‡ๅคงใช็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใใ†ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใชใ„้™ใ‚Š ใ€
86:13
Steve Letts, which I, of course,
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86:17
do not condone in any way
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86:20
whatsoever in France, it was 1978.
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86:23
Yes, it was the 1970s before they got rid of it.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใๅ‰ใฏ1970ๅนดไปฃใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
86:26
But but of course, it's fair to mention that they didn't do it very often.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’้ ป็นใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚้Ž่จ€ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
86:31
So the law was still in place.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ๆณ•ๅพ‹ใฏใพใ ๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
86:33
They weren't really carrying out many,
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใƒžใƒ€ใƒ ใƒปใ‚ฎใƒญใƒใƒณใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆๅคšใใฎๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ‚’ๅฎŸ่กŒใ—ใŸใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
86:37
many of the executions with Madame Guillotine.
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86:42
I don't know.
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86:43
Did they still use the guillotine in the 1970s?
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1970ๅนดไปฃใงใ‚‚ใ‚ฎใƒญใƒใƒณใฏไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
86:47
So when was the last time anyone was executed
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86:52
for a crime in France?
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?
86:55
When was the actual I mean, it might have been stopped in 1978,
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ„ใคใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใจ ใ„ใ†ใจใ€1978 ๅนดใซๅœๆญขใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
87:00
but when was the last time somebody somebody can Google this?
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒๆœ€ๅพŒใซ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ Google ใง่ชฟในใŸใฎใฏใ„ใคใงใ™ใ‹?
87:04
When was the last time someone was actually executed for a crime?
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใซ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ็Šฏ็ฝชใงๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใฎใฏใ„ใคใงใ™ใ‹?
87:09
And if so, what was the method?
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87:12
Did they still use the guillotine?
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใพใ ใ‚ฎใƒญใƒใƒณใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
87:13
I'm guessing they didn't.
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87:15
They might have done. I don't know just why I'm asking.
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87:21
Francesca's doesn't agree with capital punishment.
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87:24
Yes. It's one of those things that
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ
87:28
tend to polarise opinions.
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87:30
Yes, some people say it.
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87:34
Of course, it is a big risk, as you've pointed out, Mr.
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87:36
Duncan. Yes, because If you would.
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ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ†ใ—ใŸใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
87:39
You could only ever do it now, I think for.
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ใใ‚ŒใฏไปŠใ—ใ‹ใงใใชใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
87:42
Absolutely. You know, you've rock solid evidence.
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็ตถๅฏพใซใ€‚ ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ็ขบๅ›บใŸใ‚‹่จผๆ‹ ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
87:45
You'd have to have literally video, a video of that person committing the actual crime
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ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ€ ใใฎไบบใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใ€
87:51
with six people who were there and
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ใใ“ใซใ„ใŸ6ไบบใŒ
87:54
and everyone was there in the same room.
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ๅŒใ˜้ƒจๅฑ‹ใซใ„ใŸใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใŒๅฟ…่ฆใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
87:57
And Everything was was all done in the same place.
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ใใ—ใฆใ™ในใฆใŒๅŒใ˜ๅ ดๆ‰€ใง่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
87:59
And there were at least three cameras filming that thing at the same time.
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ใใ—ใฆๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚3ๅฐใฎใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใŒๅŒๆ™‚ใซใใฎๆง˜ๅญใ‚’ๆ’ฎๅฝฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
88:05
And even then it might not be real
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88:09
because nowadays, of course, we have AI which can create anything.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใงใฏ ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ไฝœๆˆใงใใ‚‹ AI ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใŸใจใˆใใ‚ŒใŒ็พๅฎŸ็š„ใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
88:14
So. So it's quite disturbing when you think about it.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใ‹ใชใ‚Šไธๅฎ‰ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
88:16
You could create, yeah, a crime being committed to, to,
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88:22
to actually set another person up so they end up going to prison or even worse.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซไป–ใฎไบบใ‚’้™ฅใ‚Œใ€ๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซใฏ ๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใ‹ใใ‚ŒไปฅไธŠใซใฒใฉใ„็›ฎใซ้ญใ‚ใ›ใ‚‹็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’ไฝœใ‚Šๅ‡บใ™ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
88:28
So I suppose that's one of the worrying things about. I
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ ๅฟƒ้…ใชใ“ใจใฎไธ€ใคใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
88:33
think the
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88:33
other thing is if you, if you, if someone is executed it,
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใคใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ€ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅ ดๅˆใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ
88:37
so if you committed their capital crime, you murdered somebody
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ๆญปๅˆ‘็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ๆฎบๅฎณใ—ใŸใ‚Š
88:42
or robbed a bank with a gun
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ใ€้Šƒใง้Š€่กŒๅผท็›—ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†
88:45
and those sort of really serious crimes,
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ใชๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้‡ๅคงใช็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€
88:52
if you are executed. Yes.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅ ดๅˆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
88:55
But I would want that person to suffer.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใฎไบบใซใฏ่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใŸใ„ใ€‚
88:58
If somebody had, say, murdered somebody, I
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ใŸใจใˆใฐ่ชฐใ‹ใŒไบบใ‚’ๆฎบใ—ใŸใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€
89:02
yeah, I would want them to
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ใใ†ใ ใ€็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใซใใ†ใ—ใฆๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใ ใ‚ใ†ใŒใ€
89:07
I'm not sure I would want them to be executed because
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใซๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ—ใฆๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใŒใ€
89:10
I'd want them to say that's not really suffering, is it?
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใฎ่‹ฆใ—ใฟใงใฏใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใŸใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€‚
89:13
Because once you're dead, you dead, you're not suffering, then yes,
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ใ ใฃใฆใ€ไธ€ๅบฆๆญปใ‚“ใงใ—ใพใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆญปใ‚“ใงใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ†ใชใ‚‰ใ€
89:16
I would want them to to suffer in some way.
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็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใซไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๅฝขใง่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
89:20
I would like to be able to choose what would happen to them,
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็งใฏใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใซไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ€
89:24
which would be living in the most extreme, horrible conditions.
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ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆฅต็ซฏใง ๆใ‚ใ—ใ„็Šถๆณใง็”Ÿใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’้ธๆŠžใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
89:29
I think for years.
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89:31
But then you see prison is not exactly you haven't got your freedom, but,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใฏๅฟ…ใšใ—ใ‚‚ ่‡ช็”ฑใŒใชใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
89:36
you know, the people
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89:37
think the prisons are a bit soft these days, though.
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ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใฎๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใฏๅฐ‘ใ—็”˜ใ„ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
89:40
Maybe you could go to one of the version you like.
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ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€ๅฅฝใใชใƒใƒผใ‚ธใƒงใƒณใฎใ„ใšใ‚Œใ‹ใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
89:42
Yeah, that's it. Yes. Send them to Russia.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‚’ใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใซ้€ใฃใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
89:45
That is that is what one thing I would say, Steve in Russia you do not
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใฎไธ€ใคใงใ™ใ€ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใงใฏใ‚ใชใŸ
89:51
in any way you don't want to go to prison in Russia
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ใฏ็ตถๅฏพใซใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใงใฏๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใซ่กŒใใŸใใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€
89:55
because they will send you to to the bleakest parts of Siberia
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ ใ‚ทใƒ™ใƒชใ‚ขใฎๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆš—ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ้€ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
90:00
and you will not escape because even if you do escape,
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ใ€ใใ—ใฆใ‚ใชใŸใฏ้€ƒใ’ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใ—้€ƒใ’ใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€
90:03
you will not survive for very long.
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้•ทใใฏ็”Ÿใใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
90:06
China, of course, China I think it's very high up there
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ไธญๅ›ฝใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ไธญๅ›ฝใ€ๆฏŽๅนดๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใฎๆ•ฐใฏ้žๅธธใซ้ซ˜ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
90:12
with the number of people they they execute every year.
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90:15
It's thousands, thousands and thousands of people are executed every year in China.
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ไฝ•ๅƒไบบใ€ไฝ•ๅƒไบบใ‚‚ใฎไบบใ€…ใŒ ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
90:21
Not they ever admit to it.
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90:23
But but there are large camps where public or.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅ…ฌๅ…ฑใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซๅคง่ฆๆจกใชใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
90:27
Well, when I say public, I mean outdoor executions take place.
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ใ•ใฆใ€็งใŒๅ…ฌใฎๅ ดใงใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ€ ๅฑ‹ๅค–ใงๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
90:31
They often use firing squads or these days
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ—ใฐใ—ใฐ้Šƒๆฎบ้šŠใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใงใฏ
90:35
they often use the lethal injection.
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่‡ดๆญปๆณจๅฐ„ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
90:39
My friend Jiang Wei went to an execution.
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็งใฎๅ‹ไบบใฎใ‚ธใƒฃใƒณใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใฏๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ๅ ดใซ่กŒใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
90:44
He actually saw it take place, maybe a prisoner
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ๅฝผใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใใ‚ŒใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’็›ฎๆ’ƒใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ
90:47
who had murdered someone.
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่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ๆฎบๅฎณใ—ใŸๅ›šไบบใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
90:50
And Jiang Wei was invited along to sit and watch this.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚ธใƒฃใƒณใƒปใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚คใ‚‚ไธ€็ท’ใซๅบงใฃใฆใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ๆ‹›ๅพ…ใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
90:54
This guy get invited?
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ใ“ใฎไบบ่ช˜ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸ
90:57
Invited? Yes.
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ๆ‹›ๅพ…ใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
90:59
Like going to watch a film?
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ๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚’่ฆ‹ใซ่กŒใใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
91:01
It's a yes. It's a pretty little envelope.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใฏใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‹ใชใ‚Šๅฐใ•ใ‚ใฎๅฐ็ญ’ใงใ™ใ€‚
91:03
They send you an envelope.
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91:04
It comes with a dove and it lands by your window.
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้ณฉใ‚’้€ฃใ‚Œใฆใ‚„ใฃใฆๆฅใฆใ€็ช“่พบใซ็€้™ธใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
91:07
And they say you are invited to an execution.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใซๆ‹›ๅพ…ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
91:10
So. So that's what he did. He watched this guy
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงๅฝผใฏใใ†ใ—ใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใฏใ“ใฎ็”ทใŒ
91:14
get executed by lethal injection.
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่–ฌ็‰ฉๆณจๅฐ„ใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใŸใ€‚
91:17
And he said it was very strange seeing seeing someone's
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็›ฎใฎๅ‰ใงไบบใฎๅ‘ฝใŒๅฅชใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใ ใจๅฝผใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
91:20
life being taken away right in front of you.
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ใ€‚
91:24
Very, very unusual.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚็ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
91:26
I don't think I'd like to see that.
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ใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏ่ฆ‹ใŸใใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
91:28
And, of course, it is execution
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
91:31
for carrying a gun in China, not using a gun.
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ไธญๅ›ฝใงใฏ้Šƒใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใŸใฎใงใฏใชใใ€้Šƒใ‚’ๆ‰€ๆŒใ—ใŸใ“ใจใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
91:36
Carrying a gun in any way you are for the chop.
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ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ‚ใ‚Œใ€้Šƒใ‚’ๆŒใกๆญฉใใฎใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใƒใƒงใƒƒใƒ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
91:43
Well, it doesn't seem that capital punishment is acting
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ใพใ‚ใ€
91:46
as a deterrent in China if they are executing thousands of people every year.
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ไธญๅ›ฝใŒ ๆฏŽๅนดๆ•ฐๅƒไบบใ‚’ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ๆญปๅˆ‘ใŒๆŠ‘ๆญขๅŠ›ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใˆใชใ„ใ€‚
91:51
But that's because many of the people haven't done anything wrong.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒไฝ•ใ‚‚ๆ‚ชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
91:56
They are political dissidents and people who disagree with local authorities
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆ”ฟๆฒป็š„ๅไฝ“ๅˆถๆดพใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ๅœฐๆ–นๅฝ“ๅฑ€ใซๅŒๆ„ใ—ใชใ„ไบบใ€…ใ€
92:01
or maybe someone who has been hounded out
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใ่ฟฝใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ‚Œใฆ
92:04
and maybe they have turned on their their local leaders.
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ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎๆŒ‡ๅฐŽ่€…ใซๅๆŠ—ใ—ใŸไบบใ€…ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
92:07
You see, I began what was an incident.
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ใปใ‚‰ใ€็งใŒไบ‹ไปถใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
92:10
Well, I don't have to be careful.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ๆฐ—ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใชใใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‘ใฉใญใ€‚
92:12
Why? Why, Steve? Well, I don't know why.
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ใชใœ๏ผŸ ใฉใ†ใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–๏ผŸ ใพใ‚ใ€็†็”ฑใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
92:15
I'm just saying, you know, kill Santa Reno, the stoning?
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็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€ ใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ฟใƒปใƒชใƒŽใ‚’ๆฎบใ›ใ€็Ÿณๆ‰“ใกใฎๅˆ‘๏ผŸ
92:18
Yeah. Was stoning.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆŠ•็Ÿณใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใ€‚
92:19
It wasn't that stoning was very popular, sort of.
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ๆŠ•็ŸณใŒใ‚ใพใ‚Šไบบๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
92:22
You know, in ancient times.
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ใ”ๅญ˜็ŸฅใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€ๅคไปฃใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
92:26
Certainly there's a lot of writings
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็ขบใ‹ใซ
92:29
around the times of Jesus in the Bible about a stonings.
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่–ๆ›ธใซใฏใ‚คใ‚จใ‚นใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใฎ็Ÿณ ๆ‰“ใกใซใคใ„ใฆใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎ่จ˜่ฟฐใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
92:35
They used to stoned people to death.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไบบใ€…ใ‚’็Ÿณใงๆ‰“ใกๆฎบใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
92:37
Then I used to, I think, when I was younger.
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ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใ‚‚่‹ฅใ„้ ƒใฏใใ†ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
92:40
Well, how can how can you die from people throwing stones at you?
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ใ•ใฆใ€ ไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซ็Ÿณใ‚’ๆŠ•ใ’ใฆใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆๆญปใฌใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
92:44
Because you think of a stone as being like that.
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็Ÿณใจใฏใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
92:48
But of course, I think they mean sort of rocks legally.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆณ•็š„ใซใฏใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎๅฒฉใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ™ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
92:51
Not not little stone and little pebbles.
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ๅฐใ•ใช็Ÿณใ‚„ๅฐ็Ÿณใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
92:54
No, that would do nothing.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
92:55
They would just bounce off your head.
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้ ญใซๅฝ“ใŸใฃใฆ่ทณใญ่ฟ”ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
92:57
But I used to think when I was when I was young, how can you die from people throwing stones at you?
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€่‹ฅใ„้ ƒใฏใ€ ไบบใซ็Ÿณใ‚’ๆŠ•ใ’ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใฉใ†ใ—ใฆๆญปใฌใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
93:03
You just said that.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไปŠใใ†่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
93:04
I know.
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็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚
93:05
I'm just repeating it,
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็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€
93:08
but they must be quite
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Š
93:09
big stones, you know, rocks big so fast.
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ๅคงใใช็Ÿณใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใญใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅคงใใช็Ÿณใงใ™ใ€‚
93:13
And a lot of them. Yes.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
93:14
You also forgetting.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
93:15
The other thing is that the person is normally buried.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใคใฏใ€ใใฎไบบใฏ้€šๅธธใฏๅŸ‹่‘ฌใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
93:17
Of course, in ancient times, death was commonplace.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๅคไปฃใงใฏๆญปใฏๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šๅ‰ใฎใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
93:22
death was everywhere.
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ๆญปใฏใฉใ“ใซใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
93:26
People were being killed all the time. Yes.
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ไบบใ€…ใฏๅธธใซๆฎบใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
93:30
You don't see so much death anymore.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใฎๆญปใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
93:32
It's almost going to a fashion.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉใƒ•ใ‚กใƒƒใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
93:33
Well, you don't see it in the same way.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใฏ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
93:35
People didn't live anywhere near as long as they do now.
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ไบบใ€…ใฏไปŠใปใฉ้•ทใ็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
93:39
You know, 2000 years ago or even a thousand years ago, people like people
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ใ”ๅญ˜็ŸฅใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€2000 ๅนดๅ‰ ใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซใฏ 1000 ๅนดๅ‰ใงใ‚‚ใ€ไบบ้–“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชไบบใ€…ใฏใ€้‹ใŒใ‚ˆใ‘ใ‚Œใฐ
93:44
didn't live much beyond sort of 35, 40, if you were lucky.
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35 ๆญณใ‹ 40 ๆญณใใ‚‰ใ„ใ‚’่ถ…ใˆใฆ็”Ÿใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
93:49
And death was always around the corner, I guess,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€
93:54
from all
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93:55
sorts of things, natural causes, people being murdered,
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่‡ช็„ถใฎๅŽŸๅ› ใ€ ๆฎบใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ไบบใ€
94:00
people murdering you, wars, there was disease, all these things around.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๆฎบใ™ไบบใ€ๆˆฆไบ‰ใ€็—…ๆฐ—ใ€ ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆญปใฏๅธธใซ่ง’ใ‚’ๆ›ฒใŒใฃใŸใจใ“ใ‚ใซใ‚ใฃใŸใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
94:05
Now, now with Mr. Duncan is a lot more of it.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐใฎๅ ดๅˆใฏใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
94:08
People use the thousands.
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ไบบใ€…ใฏๆ•ฐๅƒใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ไฝ•
94:09
Millions died of disease and,
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็™พไธ‡ไบบใ‚‚ใฎไบบใŒ็—…ๆฐ—ใงไบกใใชใ‚Šใ€
94:13
you know, animals leaping out, ripping you to shreds.
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ๅ‹•็‰ฉใŒ้ฃ›ใณๅ‡บใ—ใฆใใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ใ‚บใ‚ฟใ‚บใ‚ฟใซๅผ•ใ่ฃ‚ใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
94:19
animals.
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ๅ‹•็‰ฉใ€‚
94:20
Yeah, that's it.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
94:21
Bears and tigers and dinosaurs.
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ใ‚ฏใƒžใจใƒˆใƒฉใจๆ็ซœใ€‚
94:24
Yeah.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
94:25
Death Was commonplace.
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ๆญปใฏๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šๅ‰ใฎใ“ใจใ ใฃใŸใ€‚
94:28
People accepted it, as, you know, you could go.
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ไบบใ€…ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
94:31
I mean, we've often discussed this.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚ˆใ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
94:33
I mean, I've recently we've lost our parents,
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใฏๆœ€่ฟ‘ไธก่ฆชใ‚’ไบกใใ—ใ€
94:36
lost a few friends recently, but normally, you know, touch wood.
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ๆœ€่ฟ‘ๆ•ฐไบบใฎๅ‹ไบบใ‚’ๅคฑใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€้€šๅธธใฏ ๆœจใซ่งฆใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
94:40
You don't really it's not a daily occurrence, is it?
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใใ‚Œใฏๆ—ฅๅธธ็š„ใชๅ‡บๆฅไบ‹ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
94:44
They or the people you work with.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใ€ใพใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒไธ€็ท’ใซๅƒใไบบใ€…ใ€‚
94:47
They've been there, but not many people die that
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94:52
that you know, it's not that many.
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๆญปใฌไบบใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคšใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
94:54
Whereas, you know, a few hundred years ago or a thousand years ago,
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ไธ€ๆ–นใ€ ๆ•ฐ็™พๅนดๅ‰ใ‚„ๅƒๅนดๅ‰ใชใ‚‰ใ€
95:00
you know, you'd
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95:01
probably know somebody for a couple of weeks and then they died.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ๆ•ฐ้€ฑ้–“็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ ใใฎๅพŒไบกใใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
95:05
Well, the So she died. yeah.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใงๅฝผๅฅณใฏๆญปใ‚“ใ ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
95:07
There'd be somebody new every day because of disease
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็—…ๆฐ—ใฎใ›ใ„ใงๆฏŽๆ—ฅ่ชฐใ‹ใŒๆ–ฐใ—ใใชใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€
95:10
Steve and, and things like that.
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95:14
But yeah, we,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
95:18
we're not hardened to death
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95:20
in the same way that our ancestors would have been.
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ๅ…ˆ็ฅ–ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆญปใฌใพใง้ ‘ใชใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
95:23
No, I mean, childhood deaths, even going back to the
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ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅญไพ›ใŸใกใฎๆญปใ€
95:27
the 1950s before vaccines, children were dying
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ใƒฏใ‚ฏใƒใƒณใŒ็™ปๅ ดใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใฎ1950ๅนดไปฃใซ้กใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใฏใ—ใ‹ใ‚„ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช็—…ๆฐ—ใงๅญไพ›ใŸใกใŒใ‚ใกใ“ใกใงไบกใใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
95:31
all over the place from measles and diseases like that.
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95:36
And thousands of people in iron lungs
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ใใ—ใฆไฝ•ๅƒไบบใ‚‚ใฎไบบใ€…ใŒ
95:40
to to help them breathe with polio.
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ใƒใƒชใ‚ชใงๅ‘ผๅธใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ้‰„ใฎ่‚บใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
95:45
Yeah.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
95:46
You know, death is nowhere near
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๆญปใฏ
95:48
as common as it was to our ancestors.
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็งใŸใกใฎ็ฅ–ๅ…ˆใปใฉไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
95:52
And along that happy subject.
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ใใ—ใฆใใฎๅนธใ›ใช่ฉฑ้กŒใซๆฒฟใฃใฆใ€‚ ใ‚ใจ
95:56
We've got 10 minutes to go.
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10 ๅˆ†ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
95:57
Thank you, sir.
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ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
95:58
Well, we've got longer than that, because if you remember, we didn't
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚้•ทใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€
96:01
start till 21st, so Yeah.
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21 ๆ—ฅใพใง้–‹ๅง‹ใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
96:04
Damn, I can wait. You can go if you want.
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ใใใƒผใ€ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚ ่กŒใใŸใ„ใชใ‚‰่กŒใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚
96:08
Let me keep you.
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้ฃผใ‚ใ›ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
96:09
Anyway.
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96:09
That has nothing to do whatsoever with capital punishment.
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ใจใ‚‚ใ‹ใใ€‚
ใใ‚Œใฏ ๆญปๅˆ‘ใจใฏไฝ•ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
96:13
All of the things Steve just talked about the last 5 minutes, nothing to do with it,
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใŒ ใ“ใฎ 5 ๅˆ†้–“ใซ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ“ใจใฏใ™ในใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใจใฏไฝ•ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใฉใ†ใ›
96:18
but I don't think it's ever going to happen anyway, because I suppose
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ใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏ่ตทใ“ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ ใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ†ใงใชใใฆ
96:22
we like to think of ourselves as civilised, even though
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ใ‚‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŸใกใ‚’ๆ–‡ๆ˜Ž็š„ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
96:27
you don't have to look very far to see that human beings are often
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ไบบ้–“ใŒใ—ใฐใ—ใฐ
96:32
quite un civilised.
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ใพใฃใŸใๆ–‡ๆ˜ŽๅŒ–ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‹ใซใฏใ€้ ใใพใง่ฆ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใจ
96:34
When you think about, I'll tell you what would be a good deterrent to crime.
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ๆ€ใฃใŸใจใใซใ€ ็Šฏ็ฝชใฎๆŠ‘ๆญขๅŠ›ใซใชใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
96:38
Mr. Dunn.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚
96:39
Yes, Mr.
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96:39
Steve is if, if you committed
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€
ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใฏใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ
96:44
any crime, but particularly a serious crime, then
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ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎ็Šฏ็ฝชใ€็‰นใซ้‡ๅคงใช็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€
96:49
you're somebody in your close
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96:52
family has to take the punishment.
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่ฟ‘่ฆช่€…ใฎ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ็ฝฐใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
96:55
Okay, how about that?
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใฉใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
96:57
Would that deter you from committing a crime if, for example,
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97:01
if you murdered somebody,
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97:04
then you if you had a wife or husband
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ใ‚ใชใŸใซๅฆปใ‚„ๅคซใ€
97:08
or children, then one of their lives had to taken in return,
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏๅญไพ›ใŒใ„ใŸใจใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎ ไปฃๅ„Ÿใจใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๅ‘ฝใ‚’ๅฅชใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€
97:14
would that deter you from committing a crime?
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Šฏ็ฝชใ‚’็Šฏใ™ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ใจใฉใพใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
97:18
What kind of society would that be?
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97:21
No, but I think it would work, wouldn't it?
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97:23
I mean, if you knew that one of your children, it wouldn't work.
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97:27
How do you think it would help?
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ใใ‚Œใฏใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
97:28
Because you people would weaponise it.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸๆ–นใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆญฆๅ™จใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ๆŽ’้™คใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใ€
97:30
They would use it as a weapon if you wanted to get rid of someone.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆญฆๅ™จใจใ—ใฆไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
97:34
So so I no, I think I think that would definitely be misused
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97:39
in a similar way that it is misused in China.
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ไธญๅ›ฝใงๆ‚ช็”จใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใๆ‚ช็”จใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
97:43
Well, put it this way, that that that's how I would that's how I would metre out my judgement.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใ“ใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆ่จ€ใˆใฐใ€็งใชใ‚‰ใใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ ็งใŒ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅˆคๆ–ญใ‚’่จˆใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใ ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ใงใใพใ—ใŸ
97:49
We've got it.
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97:49
Steve, you've just you just told us there's no need to tell us again
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒณใซใจใฃใฆ
97:54
because that was quite harrowing for me to Christine is what was harrowing for you?
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใซใจใฃใฆ้žๅธธใซๆ‚ฒๆƒจใชใ“ใจใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆ่จ€ใ†ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ ใ‚ใชใŸใซใจใฃใฆๆ‚ฒๆƒจใชใ“ใจใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
98:00
Christine has got covered. I think
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ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒณใฏใ‚ซใƒใƒผใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
98:03
what we hope you recover soon,
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ๆ—ฉใๅ›žๅพฉใ—ใฆใปใ—ใ„ใจ้ก˜ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
98:06
it's everywhere at the moment.
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็พๆ™‚็‚นใงใฏใฉใ“ใซใงใ‚‚ๅ•้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
98:07
I know lots of people have got covered.
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ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒใ‚ซใƒใƒผใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
98:11
You're not giving it to them all.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ๅ…จๅ“กใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ไธŽใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
98:12
You know. I'm not know.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚ ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
98:14
I've you know, the super spreader,
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผ ใ‚นใƒ—ใƒฌใƒƒใƒ€ใƒผใฏใ€
98:17
although in my day, that used to mean something completely different.
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็งใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใงใฏใพใฃใŸใๅˆฅใฎๆ„ๅ‘ณใงไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
98:21
Yes. Lewis points out that in Paris,
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใƒซใ‚คใ‚นๆฐใฏใ€ไธญไธ–ใฎใƒ‘ใƒชใงใฏ
98:23
in the Middle Ages, capital punishment took place on Sundays
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ๆญปๅˆ‘ใŒๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใซ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ€ใƒ•ใƒƒใƒˆใƒœใƒผใƒซใฎ่ฉฆๅˆใ‚’่ฆณใซ่กŒใใฎใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
98:28
and crowds attended like we would go to football matches.
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็พค่ก†ใŒๅ‡บๅธญใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจๆŒ‡ๆ‘˜ใ™ใ‚‹ ใ€‚
98:31
Well, we used to hear.
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ใพใ‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ˆใ่žใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ็ขบใ‹ใซ
98:32
We did hear. We used to.
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่žใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ไปฅๅ‰ใฏใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
98:33
We used to burn witches. No, Steve.
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็งใŸใกใฏ้ญ”ๅฅณใ‚’็‡ƒใ‚„ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€‚
98:36
A bit later than that.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅฐ‘ใ—ๅพŒใ€‚
98:38
We used to hang people outside in Stafford
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็งใŸใกใฏใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ‰ใƒปใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ‰ๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใงไบบใ€…ใ‚’ๅฑ‹ๅค–ใง็ตž้ฆ–ๅˆ‘ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
98:42
Stafford Prison.
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98:43
The old jail outside the front doors there was a gallows
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ๆญฃ้ข็Ž„้–ขใฎๅค–ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ๅคใ„ๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใซใฏ ็ตž้ฆ–ๅฐใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใใ“ใง
98:50
and they would hang people and the public would come
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ไบบใ€…ใŒ็ตž้ฆ–ๅˆ‘ใซใ•ใ‚Œใ€ไธ€่ˆฌใฎไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚„ใฃใฆๆฅใฆใ€
98:54
and they would watch someone being hung for entertainment
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98:58
almost as if you were you were you were going to the circus or something,
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ใ‚ใŸใ‹ใ‚‚ ใ‚ตใƒผใ‚ซใ‚นใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใซ่กŒใใ‹ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅจฏๆฅฝใฎใŸใ‚ใซ็ตž้ฆ–ๅˆ‘ใซใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
99:02
and there'd be people there selling toffee apples and candyfloss
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ใใ“ใซ ใƒˆใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒผใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใ‚„ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ•ใƒญใ‚น
99:06
and cold drinks and you'd be there.
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ใ‚„ๅ†ทใŸใ„้ฃฒใฟ็‰ฉใ‚’ๅฃฒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใŒใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚‚ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
99:10
You maybe you could take a little chair and sit down and then wait,
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ๅฐใ•ใชๆค…ๅญใซๅบงใฃใฆใ€ๅคงใใชใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
99:14
wait for the big event to take place. So.
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚
99:17
So it's true in Stafford Prison, I think I think 1800s,
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ‰ๅˆ‘ๅ‹™ๆ‰€ใงใ‚‚ๅฝ“ใฆใฏใพใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚1800ๅนดไปฃใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
99:21
they were always executing people outside the door and actually see the place where the gallows was
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅธธใซใƒ‰ใ‚ขใฎๅค–ใงไบบใ€…ใ‚’ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ ใใ—ใฆๅฎŸ้š›ใซ็ตž้ฆ–ๅฐใŒ
99:29
lovely,
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็พŽใ—ใใ€
99:31
very sobering.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅŽณ็ฒ›ใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ฆ‹ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
99:34
We do make mistakes.
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็งใŸใกใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
99:36
Yes, you are right.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
99:37
Last year time passes and we make the same mistakes.
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ๆ˜จๅนดใ€ๆ™‚้–“ใŒ็ตŒใกใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅŒใ˜้–“้•ใ„ใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
99:41
If we do not improve in relation to our feelings
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ„Ÿๆƒ…ใ‚„้œŠๆ€งใซ้–ขใ—ใฆๆ”นๅ–„ใ—ใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆ
99:44
and spirituality.
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99:47
very deep, I have to say.
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้žๅธธใซๆทฑใ„ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
99:50
Anyway, I think we've used that one quite a lot today.
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ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ใ‹ใชใ‚ŠไฝฟใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
99:56
That particular subject, it's gone straight to the bone.
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ใใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎใƒ†ใƒผใƒžใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ€ ้ชจใฎ้ซ„ใพใง็ชใๅˆบใ•ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
100:01
We will be going in a few moments, but I hope you've enjoyed today's live stream.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ใ™ใ็ต‚ไบ†ใ—ใพใ™ใŒใ€ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใ‚Œใฐๅนธใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
100:06
We haven't done everything today because it's a little shorter.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅฐ‘ใ—็Ÿญใ„ใฎใงๅ…จ้ƒจใฏใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
100:10
I was a little late, for which I apologise so much.
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ๅฐ‘ใ—้…ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ„ใ€ๅคงๅค‰็”ณใ—่จณใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
100:14
It is regrettable that I was late,
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้…ๅˆปใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ„ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใงใ™ใŒใ€
100:18
but circumstances beyond my understanding
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็งใฎ็†่งฃใ‚’่ถ…ใˆใŸไบ‹ๆƒ…ใŒ
100:24
took place.
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็™บ็”Ÿใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
100:25
Let's just say an exciting topic, says Tom.
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้ข็™ฝใ„่ฉฑ้กŒใ‚’ไธ€ใค่จ€ใฃใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€ใจใƒˆใƒ ใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
100:29
I see.
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100:29
So maybe we can carry on
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ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€‚
ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ
100:33
for 10 minutes talking about various ways to execute people.
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ไบบใ€…ใ‚’ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ™ใ‚‹ใ•ใพใ–ใพใชๆ–นๆณ•ใซใคใ„ใฆ10ๅˆ†้–“่ฉฑใ—็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
100:36
Well, I think. I think we know most of them.
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ใพใ‚ใ€็งใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใปใจใ‚“ใฉใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
100:40
I think there aren't that many when you think about it.
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่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใ‚Œใฐใใ‚“ใชใซๅคšใใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใฃใจ้ข็™ฝใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’
100:43
I suppose you could come up with some interesting ways of doing it.
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ๆ€ใ„ใคใใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
100:46
But there was there was one I remember.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŒ่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
100:48
I think it was during the not not the First World War,
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็ฌฌไธ€ๆฌกไธ–็•Œๅคงๆˆฆไธญใงใฏใชใใ€
100:53
but maybe longer, much further back than that.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใฃใจใšใฃใจๆ˜”ใฎใ“ใจใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
100:57
People who tried to desert or
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่„ฑ่ตฐใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใŸไบบใ€…ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏ
101:00
they tried to desert west, a battle was taking place, you know.
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่ฅฟใซ่„ฑ่ตฐใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใŸไบบใ€…ใ€ๆˆฆ้—˜ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎ ใงใ™ใ€‚
101:05
You know, how would they would they would they wouldn't arrest them.
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้€ฎๆ•ใ•ใ‚Œใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
101:09
They will execute them.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‚’ๅ‡ฆๅˆ‘ใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚
101:10
And what they used to do is tie them to the front of a cannon.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใฏใ€ ๅคง็ ฒใฎๅ‰้ขใซใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’็ธ›ใ‚Šไป˜ใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
101:16
They would bind their arms and legs and they would
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ่…•ใจ่ถณใ‚’็ธ›ใ‚Šใ€
101:20
their body would be covering the hole at the front of the cannon.
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ๅคง็ ฒใฎๅ‰ใฎ็ฉดใ‚’ไฝ“ใง่ฆ†ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
101:24
And then they would launch a cannonball.
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ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็ ฒๅผพใ‚’็™บๅฐ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
101:29
And that was how to do the trick.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒใใฎใƒˆใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎใ‚„ใ‚Šๆ–นใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
101:31
Very creative and also a little bit
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101:34
messy as well, if you don't mind me saying that.
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่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ๅทฎใ—ๆ”ฏใˆใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใ€้žๅธธใซใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚จใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ๅฐ‘ใ—ไนฑ้›‘ใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
101:37
It's it sounds like an awful thing to clean up afterwards.
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ๅพŒ็‰‡ไป˜ใ‘ใŒๅคงๅค‰ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
101:41
But yes, it is.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
101:42
And of course, medieval times they used to hang someone, then they would draw them,
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ไธญไธ–ใงใฏ ไบบใ‚’ๅŠใ‚‹ใ—ใ€ๅผ•ใใคใ‘ใ€
101:48
they would cut them open and then they would separate their body with horses,
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ๅˆ‡ใ‚Š่ฃ‚ใใ€ ้ฆฌใงไฝ“ใ‚’ๅˆ‡ใ‚Š้›ขใ—ใ€
101:53
get them to run in different directions.
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ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๅ‘ใซ่ตฐใ‚‰ใ›ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
101:57
Nowadays,
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101:59
we don't do any of that, fortunately, and I'm very pleased to hear it.
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ๅนธใ„ใชใ“ใจใซใ€ไปŠใงใฏใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ ใใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใจใฆใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚Œใ—ใๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
102:03
I'm sure that gangs
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ใ”ๅญ˜็ŸฅใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ฎใƒฃใƒณใ‚ฐ
102:07
and in certain countries,
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ใ‚„็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ›ฝใงใฏใ€
102:10
you know, metre out their own form of justice
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102:13
in ways
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102:17
that the authorities know nothing about,
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102:20
particularly if you're in drug gangs and things like that.
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็‰นใซ ้บป่–ฌ็ต„็น”ใชใฉใซๆ‰€ๅฑžใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ๅฝ“ๅฑ€ใŒไฝ•ใ‚‚็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใง็‹ฌ่‡ชใฎๆญฃ็พฉใ‚’่จˆ้‡ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
102:22
And there's all sorts of wars going on between gangs
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ไป–ใฎๅ›ฝใงใฏใ‚ฎใƒฃใƒณใ‚ฐใฎ้–“ใงใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹็จฎ้กžใฎๆˆฆไบ‰ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€
102:26
in other countries and of course they'll murder each other all the time.
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅธธใซๆฎบใ—ๅˆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
102:32
But they, they well unfortunate.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใงใ™ใ€‚
102:35
Yes, it's very cheering, says Valentine. Yeah.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ€ใจใƒใƒฌใƒณใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒณใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
102:38
Thank you, Tom, for appreciating my shirt. Yes.
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ใƒˆใƒ ใ€็งใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’้ซ˜ใ่ฉ•ไพกใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
102:42
I've had this for years. There's a story behind this shirt,
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็งใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใฎ่ƒŒๅพŒใซใฏ็‰ฉ่ชžใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
102:46
but it's a short story.
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ใŒใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็Ÿญใ„็‰ฉ่ชžใงใ™ใ€‚
102:48
I can make it short.
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็Ÿญใใงใใพใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚
102:51
I think. Just so.
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็งใฏๆ€ใ†ใ€‚ ใกใ‚‡ใ†ใฉใใ†ใ€‚
102:53
I was in a choir many years ago, and they had a a gala evening,
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ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚ๅ‰ใ€็งใฏๅˆๅ”ฑๅ›ฃใซๆ‰€ๅฑžใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ ใใ“ใงใฏใ‚ฌใƒฉใฎๅคœใ€ใคใพใ‚Šๅนดๆœซใ‚’
102:58
a special evening when we all went to celebrate
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็ฅใ†ใŸใ‚ใซใฟใ‚“ใชใง่กŒใ็‰นๅˆฅใชๅคœใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ
103:02
the end of the year.
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103:03
And I got the dress code wrong.
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ใใ—ใฆใƒ‰ใƒฌใ‚นใ‚ณใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’้–“้•ใˆใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
103:07
So I thought it was smart, casual,
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚นใƒžใƒผใƒˆใ€ใ‚ซใ‚ธใƒฅใ‚ขใƒซใ€
103:10
smart, casual is that there's
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ใ‚นใƒžใƒผใƒˆใ€ใ‚ซใ‚ธใƒฅใ‚ขใƒซใจใฏใ€
103:12
this a shirt with a smart pair of trousers.
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใจใ‚นใƒžใƒผใƒˆใชใƒ‘ใƒณใƒ„ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
103:15
And but I misinterpreted or got it wrong.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใฏ่ชค่งฃใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€้–“้•ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
103:19
In fact, it was black tie, which is black
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ้ป’ใฎใƒใ‚ฏใ‚ฟใ‚คใงใ—ใŸใ€‚้ป’ใฎ
103:23
tie means get a bow tie dinner suit.
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ใƒใ‚ฏใ‚ฟใ‚คใฏใ€่ถใƒใ‚ฏใ‚ฟใ‚คใฎใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒŠใƒผใ‚นใƒผใƒ„ใ‚’่ฒทใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
103:29
It means dinner suit and smart dinner suit,
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ใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒŠใƒผใ‚นใƒผใƒ„ใ€ใ‚นใƒžใƒผใƒˆใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒŠใƒผใ‚นใƒผใƒ„ใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใ€
103:32
which is a totally different to smart casual.
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ใ‚นใƒžใƒผใƒˆใ‚ซใ‚ธใƒฅใ‚ขใƒซใจใฏๅ…จใ็•ฐใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
103:35
So I was the only one that turned up just wearing this.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’็€ใฆๆฅใŸใฎใฏ็งใ ใ‘ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
103:38
And I wore this shirt because I bought this shirt thinking, this'll impress people.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’็€ใŸใฎใฏใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏไบบใ€…ใซๆ„Ÿๅ‹•ใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใ‚’่ฒทใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
103:44
No, it didn't,
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
103:45
because I should have worn a dinner jacket and a bow tie.
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ใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒŠใƒผ ใ‚ธใƒฃใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใจ่ถใƒใ‚ฏใ‚ฟใ‚คใ‚’็€ใ‚‹ในใใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
103:49
And for the entire evening I wanted the ground
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ใใ—ใฆไธ€ๆ™ฉไธญใ€็งใฏๅœฐ้ขใŒ้–‹ใ„ใฆ็งใ‚’้ฃฒใฟ่พผใฟใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€
103:53
to open up and swallow me because I just I kept all day, all night.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰็งใฏใŸใ  ไธ€ๆ—ฅไธญใ€ไธ€ๆ™ฉไธญ็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
103:58
People were looking at me and I said, What on earth are you wearing?
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ไบบใ€…ใŒ็งใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€ ็งใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใ€Œไธ€ไฝ“ไฝ•ใ‚’็€ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€
104:02
Well, how disgraceful.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใชใ‚“ใฆๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
104:03
I think a lot of people were doing that today,
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅคšใใฎไบบใŒๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจๆ€ใ†ใฎใงใ€
104:06
and so I've never quite got over that.
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็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅฎŒๅ…จใซไน—ใ‚Š่ถŠใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
104:09
If you don't get over something, it means you never recover
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ไน—ใ‚Š่ถŠใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€
104:14
from the effects of the embarrassment or whatever happened at the time.
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ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ• ใ‚„ใใฎๆ™‚ใซ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸๅ‡บๆฅไบ‹ใฎๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‹ใ‚‰ๆฑบใ—ใฆ็ซ‹ใก็›ดใ‚Œใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
104:20
I've never got over that.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ไน—ใ‚Š่ถŠใˆใŸใ“ใจใฏไธ€ๅบฆใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
104:21
So you can't you can't mentally accept it and move on.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็ฒพ็ฅž็š„ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆๅ…ˆใซ้€ฒใ‚€ใ“ใจใฏใงใใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
104:27
I'm very bad at that.
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็งใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใจใฆใ‚‚่‹ฆๆ‰‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
104:28
Yes, I hadn't noticed.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
104:32
Tom says.
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ใƒˆใƒ ใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
104:33
Is euthanasia allowed in the UK?
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ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใงใฏๅฎ‰ๆฅฝๆญปใฏ่ชใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹?
104:35
Now this is a big subject and this this show
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๅคงใใชใƒ†ใƒผใƒžใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
104:41
this be similar to capital punishment
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆญปๅˆ‘ใซไผผใŸใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็คบใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™
104:45
because well can I get just go on.
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104:48
I haven't finished the sentence yet Steve in the fact
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ€็งใฏใพใ ๆ–‡็ซ ใ‚’ๆ›ธใ็ต‚ใˆใฆใ„ใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒ
104:51
that someone ends up no longer alive,
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ใ€่ชฐใ‹ใŒๆœ€ๅพŒใซใฏใ‚‚ใ†็”Ÿใใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใใชใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ไบ‹ๅฎŸใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใŒใ€
104:55
but very different circumstances, maybe a person who is ill,
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็ŠถๆณใฏใพใฃใŸใ็•ฐใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŠใใ‚‰ใ็—…ๆฐ—ใฎไบบใ€
104:59
who if they have a terminal illness, which means the illness will eventually kill them
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ๆœซๆœŸใฎ็—…ๆฐ—ใ‚’ๆ‚ฃใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€ ใคใพใ‚Š็—…ๆฐ—ใงๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซใฏๆญปใฌใ‹ใ€
105:04
or or maybe they would just be unable to move,
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใใฎไบบใŒๆญปใฌใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใŸใ ๅ‹•ใ‘ใชใ„ใ ใ‘ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ใใ†
105:08
they will they or there will be some sort of suffering a person can decide to
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ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏ ไบบใŒ
105:13
to end their own life.
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่‡ชใ‚‰ใฎไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ›ใ‚‹ๆฑบๅฎšใ‚’ไธ‹ใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎ่‹ฆใ—ใฟใŒๅญ˜ๅœจใ™ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
105:16
Here in the UK, it is still illegal.
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ใ“ใ“่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไพ็„ถใจใ—ใฆ้•ๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€‚
105:21
You cannot help a person to take their own life.
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ไบบใŒ่‡ชใ‚‰ๅ‘ฝใ‚’็ตถใคใ“ใจใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
105:25
Of course you can. You can do it anyway. But
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใจใซใ‹ใใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
105:30
if you help someone to do it, then you will be
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ๆ‰‹ไผใˆใฐใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่‰ฏใใชใ‚Šใพใ™
105:35
well.
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105:35
You'll be imprisoned basically.
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ใ€‚
ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏ็›ฃ็ฆใ•ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
105:38
And it is still illegal.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏไพ็„ถใจใ—ใฆ้•ๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€‚
105:40
Of course, you can go to places like Switzerland
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚นใ‚คใ‚นใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ่กŒใใจใ€ไธญใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹
105:43
where they have these lovely little machines you can step into
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็ด ๆ•ตใชๅฐใ•ใชๆฉŸๆขฐใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
105:47
and they I don't know what they do, but
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ไฝ•ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
105:50
you can just have these it just eases you away.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒๆฅฝใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
105:54
But I'm not sure how I feel about that, to be honest.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๆญฃ็›ดใซ่จ€ใ†ใจใ€ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
105:58
I think if I was really suffering to the point where
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ใ‚‚ใ—็งใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‹ฆใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ€
106:01
maybe everything was hanging off and I was in lots of pain,
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ™ในใฆใŒใ†ใพใใ„ใ‹ใชใใชใ‚Šใ€ ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎ็—›ใฟใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใŸใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€
106:05
maybe I would want to have my suffering.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใ็งใฏ่‹ฆใ—ใฟใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
106:08
And it in some way, if you had a terminal illness, you know, motor neurone disease
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ€ ้‹ๅ‹•ใƒ‹ใƒฅใƒผใƒญใƒณ็–พๆ‚ฃ
106:15
or something like that, because even with that, you don't know how long you're going to live.
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ใชใฉใฎๆœซๆœŸ็–พๆ‚ฃใ‚’ๆ‚ฃใฃใฆใ„ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใŸใจใˆใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ใจ ใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„็”Ÿใใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
106:19
It depends what you know.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒไฝ•ใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใซใ‚ˆใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
106:21
It's a controversial subject because
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106:25
the only people really
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106:26
qualified to do it would be doctors.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†่ณ‡ๆ ผใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅŒปๅธซใ ใ‘ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็‰ฉ่ญฐใ‚’้†ธใ™ใƒ†ใƒผใƒžใงใ™ใ€‚
106:29
And they they have signed the Hippocratic Hippocratic
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ใใ—ใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ๅธธใซๅŠชๅŠ›ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใƒ’ใƒใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒ†ใ‚นใฎ่ช“ใ„ใซ็ฝฒๅใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
106:33
Oath to say that they would always try.
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ใ€‚
106:37
And basically they've always got to keep you alive
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ใใ—ใฆๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅธธใซใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’็”Ÿใ‹ใ—็ถšใ‘ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„
106:41
so that a doctor can't do it in this country because of things that they've signed.
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ใฎใงใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ็ฝฒๅใ—ใŸไบ‹ๆŸ„ใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ“ใฎๅ›ฝใงใฏๅŒปๅธซใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
106:46
Yes. And of course, it's controversial because you don't actually know
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
106:51
if somebody isn't murdering somebody. And,
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’ๆฎบใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใฎใงใ€่ญฐ่ซ–ใฎไฝ™ๅœฐใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€
106:57
you know, you you know, you would feel uncomfortable.
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไธๅฟซใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
107:00
You may may be a relation is trying to get rid of you for your and have for the inheritance.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€็›ธ็ถšใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’่ฟฝใ„ๅ‡บใใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹้–ขไฟ‚่€…ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
107:07
And maybe you don't know what's going on
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆญฃๆฐ—ใ‚’ๅคฑใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใš
107:10
because you've lost your mind and maybe they're trying to get rid of you.
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ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’่ฟฝใ„ๅ‡บใใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
107:15
It's it's I think those cases are few and far between.
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ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚นใฏใปใจใ‚“ใฉใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
107:19
What you're trying to say is that it could be abused.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€ๆ‚ช็”จใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
107:22
It could be abused.
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ๆ‚ช็”จใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
107:24
Mr. Duncan So this is why we've never
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณๆฐ ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŸใกใŒใ“ใ‚Œใพใงใซใชใ„็†็”ฑใงใ™ใ€‚
107:28
I think it's coming closer and closer in the UK.
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่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใพใ™ใพใ™่ฟ‘ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
107:32
But right now, if you want to end your own life, you go to Switzerland.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ไปŠใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ›ใŸใ„ใชใ‚‰ ใ‚นใ‚คใ‚นใซ่กŒใในใใ ใ€‚
107:36
So if Aunty Margaret, who is a millionaire, is
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๅ„„ไธ‡้•ท่€…ใฎใƒžใƒผใ‚ฌใƒฌใƒƒใƒˆใŠใฐใ•ใ‚“ใŒ
107:40
is feeling a little bit rough, she's okay.
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ๅฐ‘ใ€…่’ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ€‚
107:44
But you feel very well you could say,
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใ„ใฎใงใ€ใ€Œ
107:47
well let me just let me just help you here with, with this pillow.
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ใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ใ€ใ“ใฎๆž•ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ“ใ“ใงใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŠๆ‰‹ไผใ„ใ‚’ใ•ใ›ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚
107:51
And then the next day the police come and they investigate and they said, and she,
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ใใ—ใฆๆฌกใฎๆ—ฅใ€่ญฆๅฏŸใŒๆฅใฆ ๆœๆŸปใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ€
107:56
she, she, she said she wanted to do it.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ€ใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
107:59
She said she wanted to do it, but she didn't she didn't want to do it.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ ใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใใชใ„ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
108:04
So it can be it can be abused in some way.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๅฝขใงๆ‚ช็”จใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒใ“ใฎๅ›ฝใงใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆฑบใ—ใฆ่จฑๅฏใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸ
108:08
So I think that's one of the main reasons why we've never allowed that in this country.
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ไธปใช็†็”ฑใฎ1ใคใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
108:13
So it is still illegal.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ไพ็„ถใจใ—ใฆ้•ๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€‚
108:15
You can't do it even if the person asks you to do it,
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ใŸใจใˆใใฎไบบใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใจ้ ผใ‚“ใ ใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—
108:20
even if they ask you nicely and say please,
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซๅ„ชใ—ใใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ—ใฆใ€็งใ‚’ใ“ใฎ
108:24
please put me out of my misery, you still can't do it.
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ๆƒจใ‚ใ•ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ•‘ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใพใ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
108:27
I knew if I went to Switzerland I'd try some chocolate first.
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ใ‚นใ‚คใ‚นใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€ ใพใšใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใ‚’้ฃŸในใฆใฟใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
108:32
I wonder if you could
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108:35
euthanize or euthanize yourself.
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ๅฎ‰ๆฅฝๆญปใ‚„ๅฎ‰ๆฅฝๆญปใฏใงใใ‚‹ใฎใ ใ‚ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
108:38
I'm not sure what the word would be for that by just eating lots of chocolate.
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ใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“้ฃŸในใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใฏใ€ไฝ•ใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
108:44
I think you can anyway, because as we know, Switzerland makes the nicest chocolate.
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็งใŸใกใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ใ‚นใ‚คใ‚นใฏๆœ€้ซ˜ใฎใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ไฝœใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใจใซใ‹ใใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
108:49
Well, Belgium probably we would disagree, but Yes,
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใƒ™ใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใงใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใๅŒๆ„ใ—ใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใŒใ€ใฏใ„ใ€
108:54
I'm being a bit trivial here, but I think I'd like a lot of chocolate.
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ใ“ใ“ใงใฏๅฐ‘ใ—ใคใพใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€็งใฏใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“้ฃŸในใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
109:00
That would be my last meal.
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ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใฎๆœ€ๅพŒใฎ้ฃŸไบ‹ใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
109:01
I think some linked chocolate.
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ—ใŸใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
109:03
Maybe they could put you in a big container and just pour the chocolate in and you just drown.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ๅคงใใชๅฎนๅ™จใซใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใ€ ใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ๆณจใใ ใ‘ใงๆบบใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
109:09
Drown in chocolate? Yes. Not sure I'd like that.
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ใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใซๆบบใ‚Œใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœ›ใ‚€ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
109:12
No, this is Rosa says I'm elegant, but I'm in the wrong clothing.
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ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ใ“ใกใ‚‰ใฏใƒญใƒผใ‚ถใงใ™ใ€็งใฏใ‚จใƒฌใ‚ฌใƒณใƒˆใ ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€็งใฏ้–“้•ใฃใŸๆœใ‚’็€ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
109:17
While Tom doesn't agree with you.
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ใƒˆใƒ ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใซๅŒๆ„ใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€‚
109:24
Now, this is a marmite shirt, isn't it?
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใƒžใƒผใƒžใ‚คใƒˆใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
109:27
You either like it or you don't like it.
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ๅฅฝใใ‹ๅซŒใ„ใ‹ใฎใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
109:29
You either love or hate this shirt.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒฃใƒ„ใŒๅฅฝใใ‹ๅซŒใ„ใ‹ใฎใฉใกใ‚‰ใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
109:31
Okay, maybe.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€‚
109:32
Maybe next week I'll a dingy jacket.
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ใŸใถใ‚“ๆฅ้€ฑใฏๆฑšใ‚ŒใŸใ‚ธใƒฃใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใ‚’็€ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚
109:36
We believe you, Mr. Steve.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ไฟกใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
109:37
We believe you.
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็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ไฟกใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
109:39
So we are going in a moment
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ใใ‚Œใงใฏใ€ใ™ใใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใฎใงใ€
109:43
and we will see you
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109:47
next Sunday, perhaps,
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ๆฌกใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใใŠไผšใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
109:51
and I will be back with you on Wednesday Wednesday.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๆฐดๆ›œๆ—ฅใซใพใŸๆˆปใฃใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚
109:54
By the way, is the last day of July.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ7ๆœˆใ‚‚ๆœ€็ต‚ๆ—ฅใ€‚
109:56
July it's January.
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7ๆœˆใงใ™ใ‚ˆ1ๆœˆใงใ™ใ€‚
110:01
this has been one of those days, I have to say.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใใ‚“ใชๆ—ฅใ€…ใฎไธ€ใคใ ใฃใŸใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
110:04
One of those days.
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110:04
I'm looking forward to being asleep today.
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ใใ‚“ใชใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ—ฅใฎใ“ใจใ€‚
ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅฏใ‚‹ใฎใŒๆฅฝใ—ใฟใงใ™ใ€‚
110:08
I have to say unconsciousness.
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็„กๆ„่ญ˜ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
110:10
Beckham, Do you want a cup of tea? Mr.
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ใƒ™ใƒƒใ‚ซใƒ ใ€ใŠ่Œถใฏใ„ใ‹ใŒใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
110:12
Duncan I can go make one after the livestream cup of tea and some Valium would be lovely.
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ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ซใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ‚นใƒˆใƒชใƒผใƒ ใฎใŠ่ŒถใฎๅพŒใซใŠ่Œถใ‚’ไฝœใ‚Šใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใƒใƒชใ‚ฆใƒ ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ็ด ๆ•ตใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
110:17
Mr. Steve, Thank you very much.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
110:20
And we will see you next weekend.
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ใใ—ใฆๆฅ้€ฑๆœซใซใŠไผšใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
110:22
Hopefully.
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ใ†ใพใใ„ใ‘ใฐใ€‚
110:25
Of course, these
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€
110:26
days a week is a very long time on planet Earth.
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ๅœฐ็ƒไธŠใงใฏๆœ€่ฟ‘ใฎ 1 ้€ฑ้–“ใฏ้žๅธธใซ้•ทใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใงใ™ใ€‚
110:30
It really is.
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
110:31
Thank you very much for watching. See you soon.
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ใ”่ฆงใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใฆ่ช ใซใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใพใŸ่ฟ‘ใ„ใ†ใกใซใŠไผšใ„ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
110:34
And of course, until the next time we meet here, you know what's coming next, don't you, Mr.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆฌกใซใ“ใ“ใงไผšใ†ใพใงใฏใ€ ๆฌกใซไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€
110:38
Steve? I do, sadly.
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“๏ผŸ ๆฎ‹ๅฟตใชใŒใ‚‰ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
110:40
You know what's coming next.
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ๆฌกใซไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
110:42
We both know what's coming next.
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็งใŸใกใฏไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚ๆฌกใซไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
110:45
Have a good week.
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่‰ฏใ„ไธ€้€ฑ้–“ใ‚’ใŠ้Žใ”ใ—ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
110:46
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
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ๆฎ‹ใ‚Šใฎๆ—ฅๆ›œๆ—ฅใ‚’ใŠๆฅฝใ—ใฟใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
110:48
And of course, you know what's coming next.
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๆฌกใซไฝ•ใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ™ใ€‚
110:51
Yes, you do.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
110:56
ta ta for now...
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ใจใ‚Šใ‚ใˆใšโ€ฆ
111:02
that that was awful, wasn't it, Joe?
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ใ‚ใ‚Œใฏใฒใฉใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใญใ€ใ‚ธใƒงใƒผ๏ผŸ
111:03
We do it again.
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ใพใŸใ‚„ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
111:04
One, two, three, ta ta for now...
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ใจใ‚Šใ‚ใˆใšใ€1ใ€2ใ€3ใ€ta ta...
111:07
That was much better, Mr. Steve. Well done.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใšใฃใจ่‰ฏใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ˆใใ‚„ใฃใŸใ€‚
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