4 Ways to Redefine Power at Work to Include Women of Color | Rha Goddess & Deepa Purushothaman | TED

譯者: Karen Feuerstein 審譯者: Shelley Tsang 曾雯海

Rha Goddess: We are in a moment of reckoning.

拉女神（歌手）：我們正處在一個接受 清算的時代。

An epic global plague,

一場史詩般的全球疫情，

a massive workforce peace-out

大規模勞動人口的消失

and a worldwide racial awakening

以及全球性的種族意識抬頭

have revealed that current corporate structures

都揭露當前的企業結構

are not living up to evolving expectations.

無法滿足不斷變化的期望。

Work is just not working for most of us,

工作對大多數人而言並不順利，

especially when it comes to women of color.

尤其是有色人種女性。

And while there can be no question that the last two years have harmed us,

過兩年毫無疑問地對我們造成了傷害，

it's also encouraged us to rethink how, where and why we work.

但卻也鼓勵我們重新思考 我們工作的方式、地點和目的。

We have an opportunity to reimagine,

我們得到重新構想的機會，

and women of color are ready to share and to lead.

而有色人種的女性也已做好分享 和領導的準備。

We want to bring the world of work into the 21st century

我們希望將工作帶入二十一世紀，

so that it works for everybody.

使其適用於所有人。

And that starts with getting real.

而這必須從認識現實開始。

Our data shows that one in three women are considering leaving the workforce

我們的數據顯示， 三分之一的女性考慮於明年

in the next year.

離開勞動市場。

Deepa Purushothaman: One in three.

迪帕・普魯索塔曼：三個中就有一個。

RG: And when we consider

拉：而當我們考慮

all of the backs and shoulders that we've stood on to get here,

為了達到現況所仰賴的各個靠背與肩膀時，

corporate America,

美國企業界，

women of color allies,

有色女性的盟友們，

are y'all ready for us to leave?

你們都準備好讓我們離開了嗎？

When it comes to the world of work,

在談論工作的世界時，

I describe Deepa and I as corporate refugees.

我將迪帕和我描述為企業難民。

Thirty years ago,

三十年前，

I was an only,

我是唯一一位

a Black woman in the specialty chemicals industry,

在特種化學品行業工作的黑人女性，

working for a Fortune 100 company.

為一家名列《財富》世界一百強 的企業服務。

Now, back in those days, company cultures didn't talk about race,

過去的那些日子中， 公司文化並不談論種族議題，

and glass ceilings were often impenetrable,

玻璃天花板通常是堅不可摧的，

even to the toughest set of stilettos.

即便對最堅硬的一雙細高跟鞋 而言也是如此。

I got that memo early, so I left.

我提早認知到這個現象， 所以離開了。

And for the last 25 years,

在過去的二十五年裡，

I've dedicated my life to supporting courageous leaders.

我一直致力於支持勇敢的領導者。

As a coach,

作為一名教練，

I help them pursue their purpose and callings

我幫助他們追求自己的目標和使命，

in service to a more just, harmonious and sustainable world.

為一個更公正、和諧和永續的世界服務。

DP: Rha, she calls as corporate refugees.

迪帕：拉，她稱之為企業難民。

I spent 20 years rising in corporate America,

我花了二十年的時間在美國企業中崛起，

and I got my seat at the table.

在談判桌前得到一個位置。

I was the first Indian American woman to do so in my global firm,

我是所屬的國際公司中， 第一位這麼做的印度裔美國女性，

and I sat on senior committees,

我擔任資深委員會成員，

influenced policy

影響政策

and led large parts of inclusion programming.

並領導大部分的整合型計畫。

I had a successful career,

我有個成功的職業生涯，

and I was on an upward trajectory when I decided to walk away from it all.

且當我準備離開時， 正處在起飛上升的階段。

Why?

為什麼？

I was stressed.

我的壓力很大。

I was chronically ill,

我罹患慢性病，

and I was questioning my larger purpose in the world.

並且質疑我在這個世界更宏大的目標。

I knew I wanted to leave,

我知道我想要離開，

but I felt responsible to the women of color coming up after me.

但我對追隨我的有色女性負有責任。

I met Rha,

我遇到拉，

she changed my life,

她改變了我的人生，

and she became my coach.

並且成為我的導師。

And together we started gathering women of color.

於是我們一同開始召集有色女性。

To figure out if I should stay or if I should go.

了解我是否想留下亦或離開。

What we learned from these women

我們從這些女性身上發現，

was that their struggles were not personal.

他們遭遇的掙扎並非只是個別的感受。

The system is broken.

整個系統是崩壞的。

And we decided we would work together to learn more.

於是我們決定一起努力， 了解更多訊息。

And now we've started a movement to change it.

而現在，我們已經發起群眾運動進行改變。

RG: Since 2018, Deepa and I have interviewed thousands of women,

拉：自二零一八年起， 迪帕跟我訪問了數千名女性，

and about six months ago we launched a data-driven research project

大約六個月前， 我們啟動一個數據導向的研究計畫，

to hear from over 1,700 women from all backgrounds

搜集超過 1,700 多名來自不同背景女性

about their work experiences.

的工作經歷。

We wanted to have the data to support the stories we were hearing

我們希望獲得數據來支持 我們從遇到的所有女性那裡

from all of the women we met.

聽到的故事。

So much of the research that we see out there

我們在有色女性身邊

around women of color

看到的好多研究

talks about us in the third person.

都以第三人稱談論我們。

We wanted to do something that enabled us to speak for ourselves.

我們想要做些 能讓我們為自己發聲的事。

Some of the questions we asked in the research were:

我們在研究中提出的問題包括：

“How does race show up at work for you?”

「種族是以什麼方式在工作中被顯現出來？」

"Has your company created a clear plan to support your advancement?"

「所屬的公司是否制定明確計畫 來支持你的晉升？」

"Who or what has been most instrumental to your success?"

「什麼人或什麼事對你的成功最有幫助？」

The results and the response have been startling.

研究結果和回應讓人吃驚。

DP: The system was not created for women of color.

迪帕：（工作）體系並非為有色女性創建。

It doesn't show up in the same ways for us.

它對有色女性的呈現方式是不同的。

And we all need to let go of the idea that it's a meritocracy.

我們需要屏棄精英管理的想法。

People everywhere are talking about being burnt out.

世界各地的人們都在談論職業過勞。

But women of color, we're not just burnt out.

但我們有色女性不僅是過度勞動。

We're traumatized.

我們受到創傷。

The weight of microaggressions,

工作中的微歧視、

racism and hatred at work,

種族主義和仇恨的重量，

it takes a toll on us.

對我們造成負面影響。

And it takes a toll on our companies.

而這也對我們的公司帶來損害。

We need to talk about that.

我們需要談論這件事。

Our research showed that the path for women of color is very different.

我們的研究表示， 有色女性的（職業）道路迥然不同。

It shows up differently for us, as I said before.

就如我先前提到的， 我們的這條路大相徑庭。

And what we saw was, first,

我們首先觀察到的是，

that women of color face many more negative stereotypes in the workplace.

有色女性在工作場所面對更多的 負面刻板印象。

Secondly, we have to prove ourselves more often.

其次，我們需要更頻繁地證明自己。

Seventy percent of the women of color we met

我們遇到的有色女性中有七成

said they have to prove themselves over --

表示她們必須不斷地證明自己——

RG: And over.

拉：一直不斷地。

DP: And over and over again.

迪帕：一遍又一遍地證明自己。

We get paid less.

我們得到的報酬比較少。

We get promoted less.

我們得到升職的比較少。

And we also get hired less often.

我們也比較不常被雇用。

And when we do the right thing and speak up about racism at work,

而當我們做正確的事， 在工作時為種族主義發生時，

what we find is the system turns on us.

我們發現制度會反過來抨擊我們。

We're actually retaliated against

我們實際上遭到報復，

and very often traumatized yet again.

並且經常再次受到傷害。

We also heard from women of color that DE and I isn't working,

我們也從有色女性的口中聽聞， 多元化、公平和包容 (DEI) 並沒有發揮功用，

in fact, it's failing.

事實上，它正在失敗。

So there is a lot that has to change.

所以有很多東西需要改變。

So that's the bad news.

這是壞消息，

But we do have some good news for you.

但我們有一些好消息要告訴你。

The good news is we have some ideas for you.

好消息是，我們有一些想法。

We have some recommendations.

我們有一些建議，

And some of those things you can do right now

而且你現在能做的其中一些事情，

to make the workplace work better for women of color.

能夠讓工作場所對有色女性更友善，

And as a result, make it work better for all of us.

從而營造對所有人都好的工作環境。

One of the things our research identified

我們研究的其中一項發現是，你——

is that you, and when I say you, I mean companies and leaders,

——而當我說你，我指的是公司和領導者——

need to do a better job of dealing with toxic rock stars.

需要更好的處理有害的搖滾明星。

You know, that guy puts up big numbers on the board, sells big deals,

你知道，那個人在董事會上 大肆宣傳，大手筆交易，

clients love him, bosses love him, but --

客戶愛他，老闆愛他，但——

RG: He's a hot mess everywhere else.

拉：他在其他任何地方都是一團糟。

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

DP: You know that guy.

迪帕：你們的知道他是誰。

We have them everywhere.

這種人到處都有。

They're in every workplace.

他們出現在每個工作場所。

Well, we're asking you to take action against them.

我們邀請你們對這些人採取行動。

When you don't, what it tells us

如果不這麼做，我們便曉得

is that performance trumps character.

機能勝過了性格。

And when you leave them in seats of power,

而當你讓這些人繼續留在權力的位置上時，

what you're telling us

你正在告訴我們

is that profits matter more than people.

利潤比人更重要。

It's time we humanize work.

現在是我們將工作人性化的時候了，

And that you care about our well-being, too.

你也應該關心我們的福祉。

RG: Another important takeaway from the research is that women of color

拉：研究的另一個重要收穫發現，

are corporate America’s greatest underutilized resource

有色女性佔美國企業 未充分利用資源中的最大比例，

and yet we could be your greatest competitive advantage.

但我們卻可能是你們最大的競爭優勢。

We understand diversity

我們了解多元性，

because we've had to navigate a world that never had our success in mind.

因為我們必須在一個 不曾考慮過我們的成功的世界生存。

We are inherently culturally competent because we've had to be.

我們天生具有文化能力， 因為我們必須如此。

And our lived experiences make us natural-born leaders.

而我們的這些生活經驗 使我們成為天生領導者。

Imagine what it's like to be the first in your family

想像一下，作為家中第一個

to make a start in a new country

在一個新國家開啟新生活，

or to be one of a few to raise three kids as a single parent

或是成為少數幾個在工作 和上學的同時

while you work and go to school.

撫養三個孩子的單親父母。

Or to be an only in executive leadership

或者成為擁有數千名員工的公司中

in a company that employs thousands.

唯一的行政領導。

Women of color have had to overcome so much just to be in the running,

有色女性必須克服這麼多困難 才能加入競爭行列，

and we've been successful because of these experiences,

而我們之所以成功，

not in spite of.

也正是因為這些經歷。

Corporations, we are your innovators.

公司企業們， 我們是你們的啟發創新者。

Give us opportunities to lead beyond DE and I,

讓我們有機會超越 DEI 的限制，

in product development, marketing,

領導產品開發、市場行銷、

finance and engineering.

財務和工程。

Go beyond your usual suspects.

跳脫平時的猜想。

Take the time to see us

花時間用心的看看我們，

and learn about our unique qualities and lived experiences.

認識我們獨特的能力和生活經驗。

We are your truth tellers, baby,

我們是說實話的人，

(Deepa laughs)

（迪帕笑了）

in a moment where it's time to tell the truth.

會在該說實話的時候呈述真相。

If work environments don't get better,

如果工作環境沒有好轉，

we will continue to leave.

我們會持續離開。

Take the time to reexamine your company values,

花點時間重新審視你們公司的價值觀，

then get in touch with the day-to-day realities of your people.

了解員工日常需要面對的現實生活。

DP: One of the truths we also need to talk about

迪帕：我們需要談論的另一個事實是，

is as women, we're not helping each other.

身為女性， 我們並沒有互相幫助。

I know that's a taboo topic to talk about,

我知道這是一個禁忌話題，

but we need to talk about it if we're going to change it.

但我們如果希望做出改變， 我們必須討論這件事。

Women we speak with, when they tell us that,

當我們訪談的女性告訴我們這件事時，

their voices drop, and you can feel the shame

她們的聲音會降低， 你能夠感受到她們的慚愧，

because it's so hard to talk about the fact

因為要談論我們不互相幫助的真相

that we don't help each other.

是艱難的。

More than half of the women of color we spoke with

在我們採訪的有色女性中， 超過一半表示

said that white women make them feel invisible at work.

白人女性讓他們在職場上 感覺被受忽略。

And only nine percent of the white women we interviewed

而在我們採訪的白人女性中，

are actually sponsoring a woman of color,

只有 9% 實際上支持有色女性，

even though 91 percent of you say you want to.

即便 91% 皆表示願意如此。

Nine vs. 91, that’s a significant difference.

九比上九十一， 這是非常顯著的差異。

So we're not doing as much as we can for each other

我們並沒有盡全力的幫助彼此，

and maybe not even as much as we intend to.

甚至沒有我們意圖的那麼多。

We need to change that.

我們必須改變這件事。

RG: We also need to talk about power

拉：我們也需要討論權力

and the traditional notions of hierarchy

以及我們被教育要效仿的

we've all been taught to emulate.

傳統階級觀念。

We've bought into the belief that a gain for one

我們已經相信，一個人的收穫

means a loss for another.

代表另一個人的損失。

And even if we truly don't believe that,

就算我們真的不相信這點，

we're under immense pressure to conform

我們也承受巨大的壓力 而不得不妥協，

because most workplaces operate that way.

因為大多數工作場所都是這麼運作的。

As women, we tell ourselves with the best intentions,

身為女性， 我們從立意良善的出發點告訴自己：

"Let's just make it to the top,

「讓我們登上頂峰，

and then once we get there,

到達最高點後，

we'll turn around and create opportunities for others."

我們會回頭為其他人創造更多機會。」

The problem is,

但問題是，

so many of us never seem to get there,

我們之中似乎鮮少有人到達 頂峰的位置；

and when we do,

而即便成功站上最高點，

we become all-consumed with maintaining our seat.

我們仍須全神貫注、費心 維護這個位置。

One woman of color we spoke to in the research

研究中與我們對談的一位有色女性

gave us our greatest "drop the mic" moment

在說出這句話時，給了我們

when she said,

最經典的「丟麥」時刻，

"We're competing with other women for a seat at the table.

「我們和其他女性一同競爭 圓桌旁僅有的一席座位，

And there’s only one broke-ass chair.”

而且只有一把破爛的椅子。」

And that's the problem.

這就是問題所在。

The designation of one seat

指定這麼一個座位

makes it feel more like charity

更像是一種慈善行為，

than an actual recognition of our dedication and hard-won results.

而非對我們的貢獻 和努力得來成果的實質肯定。

And we see all women grappling with this.

而我們看到所有女性 為了得到這個位置而爭奪，

Not just women of color.

並不限於有色人種女性。

To our white sisters,

白人姐妹們，

it's time to become true co-conspirators

是時候成為真正的共謀者了 （編按：加入改變的行列），

because this affects all of us.

因為這共同影響著我們。

(Applause)

（掌聲）

We can create more room.

我們可以創造更多的空間。

We can do this differently.

我們換不同的方式來做這件事。

Let's not just talk about it,

讓我們不只是談論它，

let's be about it.

而是參與其中。

Billie Jean King is phenomenal at this.

比利·簡·金在這方面表現非常出色。

She has been a champion of equity on and off the court for over 50 years,

五十多年來，她一直是 場上和場下公平公正的擁護者，

mever settling for anybody’s broke-ass anything.

從不滿足於任何人的破東西。

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

Our collaboration with Billie Jean and the Leadership Initiative

我們與比利·簡 和領導力倡議團體

on this research

在這項研究上的合作

is yet another example.

就是另一個例子。

You know, there used to be a saying: “Be more like Mike.”

你知道曾經有這種說法: “多多像麥克一樣。”

Well, my sisters, we are asking you

嗯, 我的姐妹們, 我們現在請求你

(Both) to be more like Billie.

(兩者)多多像比莉一樣吧。

DP: Women of color, I want to speak to you now.

迪帕：有色女性們，我現在想要告訴你們：

We need to reimagine power and leadership in our own terms.

我們需要由我們的方式, 重新想像力量和領導。

We need to know that we can do it our own way.

我們需要知道我們可以做到 以我們自己的方式。

We need to let go of the idea that success comes on certain terms

我們需要放棄成功是有條件的 這樣的想法。

and not forgive or forgo our hair,

不原諒或不放棄我們所繼承的,

our history or where we come from.

我們的歷史或是我們來自何方。

We need to know that we can lead in full voice in cultures that see us

我們需要知道我們可以用看得到 我們的文化, 用全部的聲音

and reward us

並獎勵我們，

and give ourselves permission to walk away from the ones that don't.

並允許我們離開那些不准許 我們這樣做的人。

And we need to take good care of ourselves.

我們需要好好照顧自己。

And remember not to go this alone,

而且記住不要自己做這件事，

this is hard, and we need our sisters.

這是很困難的, 我們需要我們的姐妹們。

And we told you early on this was about getting real.

我們之前告訴你這是有關於現實。

Well, I want us to get real with ourselves too.

我要我們也要自己認清現實。

Rha and I, we know we're not a monolith,

蕊拉和我, 我們知道我們都不是巨石，

that women of color have different histories

有色女性有著不同的歷史，

and different paths to get here, and we recognize that.

有著不同來到這裏的經歷, 我們承認那點。

But we need to work together to change the status quo.

但是我們需要一起合作 來改變這個狀態。

As we rise, we need to take others with us.

當我們升起時, 我們需要 帶著別人和我們一起。

We have to do this together and let go of the idea of one seat.

我們必須一起做這件事, 放棄 只有一個席位這個想法。

This has to be a collective effort.

這必須是一個集體的努力。

We don't just want more power in the same broken system,

我們不只在一個相同壞掉的系統裏 要更多的權力。

we want more.

我們要得到更多。

The last few years have served us some sobering truths about the workplace.

過去幾年我們已經得到關於工作場所 的一些發人深省的真相。

But they've also given us a chance to reimagine.

但是他們已經給了我們一個 重新想像的機會。

Women of color are tired.

有色女性很疲倦了。

RG: Aren’t you tired too?

拉:你們也累了嗎?

DP: This is our moment to make work work for everyone.

迪帕:這是我們讓工作場可以讓 每個人都能實際運作。

Let's remake the table together.

讓我們把這個工作場所重新建立起來。

Thank you.

謝謝大家。

RG: Thank you.

拉：謝謝大家。

(Applause)

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