Jane Walsh: The rise of predatory scams -- and how to prevent them | TED

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When we're seven, getting older and turning eight sounds great.
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Then once we're in our teens,
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the very idea of getting older and being 16 is amazing.
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But show me one single person
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who wakes up on their 50th birthday and says, "Wow, I can't wait till I'm 70."
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"Getting old is not for sissies."
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That's what my 90-year-old mother-in-law says when she's cross
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because something, physically or mentally, just isn't working the way it should,
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and did, years ago.
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But there are other surprises ahead of us.
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There is something else that goes along with aging,
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and it's not something we ever think about.
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One in 10 adults over 60 will be abused during their lifetime.
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That is five million people every year.
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Even worse,
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half of those who develop dementia will experience some kind of abuse.
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And more often than not, the abuser will be a family member.
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We never think that this is going to happen
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to us or to our loved ones.
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But it's happening, right now,
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to our parents, our grandparents and our neighbors.
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I first learned elder abuse was a thing
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when my dad fell victim to a classic elder scam.
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He was retired and he was living alone,
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and although he was hiding it really well,
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he was starting to struggle with tasks that had once been simple for him.
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The medical term would probably be "mild cognitive impairment."
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Then, one day, I found a detective's business card
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sitting on his kitchen table.
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He'd been ripped off by a phony roofing contractor.
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He'd given this guy a lot of money up front,
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and the guy took his money and then took off.
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Despite my dad's police report, no one was ever charged or prosecuted.
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I was a criminal defense attorney at the time, but even still,
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I was shocked that it had happened.
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And as his daughter, I was horrified that I hadn't seen it coming.
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Years later, I moved to Colorado,
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and I started working as a deputy district attorney,
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prosecuting crimes against older adults and folks with disabilities.
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I soon learned that there were a ton of these crimes out there,
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but not so many of them were getting reported.
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The statistics said maybe one in 14.
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And when those crimes did get reported,
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as I'd already seen, very few of them got charged or prosecuted,
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and only the tiniest proportion resulted in a conviction.
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So let's just think about domestic violence
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and child abuse, for a second.
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Think about all the resources of public-service campaigns
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poured into those issues --
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and yet, still, those crimes remain way too high.
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Efforts to address elder abuse
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are said to be 20 years behind both of those issues.
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But we need to get better, and we need to get better fast,
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because this problem is exploding.
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Elder abuse is growing,
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but it still remains hidden because of shame,
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because of embarrassment,
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because of affection between perpetrator and victim.
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And most of all, because everyone has a deep, instinctive fear
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of admitting to impairment.
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So we see lots of different types of elder crime.
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We see physical abuse, we see emotional abuse.
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Sometimes, we'll see neglect or sexual abuse.
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But every single day, we see fraud and exploitation.
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Financial crimes against seniors in the US cost an astonishing amount.
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The estimates put it up to 36.5 billion dollars every year.
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We know that seniors get bombarded by phone scams and internet scams
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even more than the rest of us.
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And this is lazy-boy crime.
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Why would anyone go out and rob a bank?
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They can sit at home,
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they call seniors and they terrify them that they're about to get arrested
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or that their grandsons are in jail.
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Then, they pressure them to buy multiple gift cards and Bitcoin.
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So many seniors have saved for decades,
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and those nest eggs, or sometimes, their whole life savings,
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just get wiped out in hours, or sometimes days.
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It's low-risk crime, and it's very lucrative.
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But what's the reason
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that seniors are falling for these scams so often?
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And why do criminals target them?
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One possible answer lies in what happens to our brain as we age.
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By the time we're 60,
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neuroscience says that every single one of us
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is going to have some kind of cognitive change or deficit.
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Of course, our brains compensate, and no two individuals are the same.
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But as our executive functioning for complex tasks starts to decline,
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we might find it more difficult
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to figure out if someone is trying to manipulate or exploit us.
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And at the same time,
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we'll very likely have less insight into the fact that these deficits exist.
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And this combination creates perfect victims.
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It also goes to explain another type of crime
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that we see seniors falling for, again and again,
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and this is financial exploitation.
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In this type of crime, a third party homes in on the senior.
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They start to use persuasion and influence,
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and really almost grooming,
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to get them to give them money or assets.
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This can be a new person in the senior's life,
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and sometimes, it'll seem like someone who's really great.
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It'll be the new best friend or the fabulous new caregiver.
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Maybe a romantic interest,
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or even a financial or legal professional.
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And what we see is that the bond
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that the perpetrator creates with the senior is so strong
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that even if they're cleaned out and penniless,
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they're often incurring credit card debt,
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and even taking out reverse mortgages
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so they can give more to the person scamming them.
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But right now, on some level,
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we're still thinking that this is not something that's going to happen to us.
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We couldn't get scammed, not us,
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not our smart friends and family.
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Are we so sure about that?
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Howard and Charlotte were 89 and 83 when they came forward.
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They'd both had careers as successful psychotherapists,
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and they had six college degrees between them.
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Years before, a receptionist from their eye doctor’s office
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had showed up unexpectedly at their home
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and asked if she could borrow 300 dollars.
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She came back again and again,
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and often, she brought her small child with her.
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And every time she showed up,
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she had something new to tell them about why she needed money urgently:
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eviction costs, a lawsuit, medical bills or surgery.
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She rarely left without a check in hand.
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And after this had gone on for some time,
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she had got almost 600,000 dollars from this couple.
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And all the time, they told no one.
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It wasn't until their accountant asked them questions
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that they couldn't avoid,
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and then told them this was a crime,
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and that they had to call it in.
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Even then, they waited another couple of weeks,
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until, mortified, they finally took his advice.
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This case is also a great example
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of how delays inherent in the criminal justice system
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make achieving justice for seniors a really difficult task.
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Howard was already dying of heart failure at the time that this case was charged.
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His cardiologist said that he only had a few months to live.
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So trial might be a year or more out.
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And Howard was an essential witness,
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but he wasn't going to be around.
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We litigated, to take his testimony ahead of time, by a deposition.
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That's something that's really fairly rare in criminal cases.
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Finally, Howard testified from his home.
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And he spent the entire next day in bed, exhausted.
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He passed away only six weeks later.
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And we were so lucky.
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If Howard had cognitive issues,
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important details might already have been lost.
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And this is what happens in these cases.
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The clock's running against us,
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and that clock runs out, and cases get dismissed.
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The victims and their voices simply fade away.
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Let's talk about another problem that we face,
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which is based on fundamental legal principle.
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It's the confrontation clause of the Constitution.
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This means that when someone is accused of a crime,
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they have the right to bring in their accuser,
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confront them face-to-face in court, and cross-examine them.
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The person who's accused of abuse
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can insist on bringing in the senior to have their lawyer question them.
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As you can imagine,
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this is very tough in cases with older victims.
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I think of one case I prosecuted,
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where the elderly woman sat in her wheelchair
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outside the courtroom for hours,
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waiting to testify.
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Other cases overran.
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Eventually, cold and tired and in pain, she just started crying.
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We really need to figure out better solutions.
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Sometimes, we can carve out small exceptions
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to the confrontation clause,
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based on public policy and the necessities of the case.
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Sometimes, remote testimony can be a substitute
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for in-person presence,
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particularly if we build in due process safeguards,
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like having a person from each side present,
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to make sure there isn't any prompting or interference.
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During the pandemic,
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judges have sometimes permitted remote testimony
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based on the public health crisis
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and the elevated risks that that presents to seniors.
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There's one other thing that's really worth mentioning,
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which is that in other legal systems,
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where confrontation isn't quite so fundamental,
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they're really headed in an entirely different direction.
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Special measures to protect vulnerable victims
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are becoming more common,
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and what's driving these changes
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is the focus on really getting the best and most reliable testimony
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from the witness,
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which kind of makes sense.
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Also, in California, initiatives around specialty courts have been set up
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to address some of these specific barriers to elder justice that we're talking about.
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So we can make this system better.
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We can also take action ourselves
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to prevent those we love being affected by predatory behavior.
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It is time that we had the talk.
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No, it's not that talk.
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This is the talk that we need to have with our parents
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or other elder adults that we talk to.
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And it is every bit as awkward,
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because it goes against the grain of the relationship.
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Roles have changed forever,
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and the person who used to be our protector
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might now need some protection themselves.
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So before we even start this process,
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we can reach out to family friends,
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because they often have a great idea of what's going on.
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They may be able to tell us
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if they've seen signs and symptoms that concern them.
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Physicians or other professionals can help too.
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Then let's talk about tone,
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because this is not an easy conversation,
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and it really needs a careful approach.
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What we can't do is go in there ready to judge,
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because who wants to be judged,
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who wants to be made to feel less than?
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In my cases, I try to get a photograph of the senior
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when they were a different age, in a different context.
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It helps me see more of that person.
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We didn't know our parents when they were our age.
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There is a lifetime of history between us,
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but there are still new ways to connect.
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And there are so many practical and unobtrusive fixes
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that we can put in place.
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Maybe it's doorbell cameras
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or text alerts from the bank that come to our phone,
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or maybe we're just going to help out
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with that huge mountain of paperwork that keeps regrowing.
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There is a whole industry out there,
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and we need to find the solutions together.
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Also, this is a process,
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so we need to keep it under review.
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And if right now, we're feeling overwhelmed,
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then nobody said it would be easy,
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and neither is getting old.
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But we can't wait,
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because if we wait,
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we'll find out after something has happened.
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Like my family did,
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or like Howard and Charlotte's family did.
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When I first meet with victims of elder crime,
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it can feel really heavy.
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They've taken a big blow to their dignity and their self-respect.
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They tell me that they feel tired and foolish,
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and sometimes, they even say that they feel like they're done.
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We try not to make this process any harder for them.
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As in, "Wow, you've really been through a lot ...
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But wait, there's more."
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And we get to share in their amazing resiliency
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and their humor,
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as we navigate our way through this messy system together.
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We can improve how the system responds to their mistreatment.
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We can ramp up prevention,
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we can raise awareness,
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and we can do a better job protecting our own friends and family.
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And who knows what lies ahead for our future selves, either?
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But now that we absolutely know that elder abuse can happen to anyone,
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it's time that we change that,
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to make sure that it can't, and it doesn't.
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