Why All Dogs Are Good Dogs | Alexandra Horowitz | TED

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Every dog training book holds out the premise of the perfect puppy
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or ten ways to assure a good dog.
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But science tells us that this is all wrong.
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Your dog's misbehavior is telling you one thing,
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and it's not that they're a bad dog.
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What it's telling you is how they experience the world
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differently from you.
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Understanding this is the key to raising a happy dog.
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So I want to make two points to clarify what misbehaviors actually are.
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The first, misbehavior isn't misbehavior.
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It's communication.
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It's information gathering.
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It's surprise, it's excitement,
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sometimes it's boredom.
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It's a glimpse into the stage of life they're in.
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For instance, it's communication.
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Barking at a guest.
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We call it rude, but it's not rude, they are telling you something,
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“Someone is here.”
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And you're encouraging that
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as you go right to the door,
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often barking back at them in our own way.
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Congratulations, you're in conversation.
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It's information gathering.
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A dog sniffing you closely isn't impolite.
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Dogs see the world through their noses.
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Up close, they are looking at you, finding out about you.
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Their noses have the acuity to tell
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where you've been, what you've eaten,
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even if you've been secretly petting another dog.
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It's telling us about the stage of life they're in.
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If you have a dog who's between about six months and two years old,
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you don’t have, as commonly assumed, a puppy.
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You, my friend, have a teenager,
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an adolescent in a mature 30-year-old body going through a phase.
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Just like the 14-year-old boy’s sometimes erratic behavior --
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distant or argumentative --
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this phase in dogs is driven by hormones.
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Those that lead to sexual maturity also have other consequences,
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like increased sensitivity to touch and less self control.
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Their brains are literally being rewired,
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especially in areas that regulate emotions and making judgments.
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You might see more challenges to your authority.
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They might alternate shying from you and clinging to you.
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There might be more chewing of things.
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Chewing in particular may be a way to help lower their stress hormone levels.
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So misbehavior isn't best described as misbehavior at all.
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The second point is this.
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What we read as dog misbehavior is really our misbehavior.
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It's our fault.
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If their behavior seems wrong to us,
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it highlights that we have not conveyed to the dog what matters to us
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in a way that they can understand.
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Dogs are not born understanding the sometimes Byzantine rules
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of human social interaction,
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or the rules of our home,
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or what we consider appropriate behavior.
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Dogs don't have a clue about the pronouns we give to items.
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"That's my bed, that's your bed."
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Or the identities we give to objects.
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"That's a shoe, and that's a chew toy."
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My research has actually shown
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that even when we think they know they've done something wrong,
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giving the guilty look that is familiar to many dog people,
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this look isn't a sign of guilt.
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It's a learned submissive display that they put on when we're angry
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so we don't punish them.
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And it's actually pretty good at that.
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Often their seeming misbehavior is actually a poorly designed environment
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on our part.
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You don’t leave kids alone with knives,
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and we shouldn’t leave dogs alone with a cheese plate.
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If you leave a pair of your favorite shoes,
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that smell like you,
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in the middle of the living room as you leave the house,
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you have designed your environment
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to include special you-smelling items in it.
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Enrichment devices.
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Your dog will take to it and interact with your shoes
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in a way you might find objectionable.
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In other words, it's on us.
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Once we begin to see
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that this thing we've been calling "misbehavior"
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can be more productively translated into what the dog is actually doing,
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living among dogs changes for us.
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Misbehavior becomes an opportunity
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to see into what the Austrian scientist Jakob von Uexküll called the umwelt --
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the worldview or the perspective of another species.
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The profound change in my own life after studying dogs
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was that it completely overthrew how I looked at my own dog.
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Dog chasing a bike?
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It's a glimpse into their evolutionary history.
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Descent of ancient wolves
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with a vestigial urge to chase quickly-moving things which could be prey.
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Stop the bike and you stop the chase.
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Similarly, your dog’s jumping on you and licking your face in greeting?
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This, too, can be traced back to their ancestry.
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A hunting wolf returns to the pack
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to be mobbed by pack mates in greeting
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who would lick him or her around the face.
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In their case, they're trying to prompt the wolf
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to regurgitate a little bit of the food that they just hunted.
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If you don't want your dog to jump, bend down to their height.
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If you spat up a little of your sandwich, I think they'd be okay with that too.
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Deeply smelling into each other's fur,
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their close smelling of us or every guest,
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it’s a peek into their perceptual experience
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as olfactory creatures
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with hundreds of millions more olfactory receptor cells in their nose than we have.
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So take them for a smell walk to exercise those noses,
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where they lead the way and sniff to their heart's content.
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A dog's misbehavior is a chance for you to learn about this alien creature
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that we've all become accustomed to seeing,
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but who is misunderstood.
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When we see their communications,
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we're able to listen.
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When we see what they perceive,
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we bring ourselves one step closer to dogness.
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In the end, we'll wind up with better relationship with our pups.
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And isn't that what we're aiming for?
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Thanks.
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Whitney Pennington Rodgers: I think it's interesting how,
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in your opening talk and really in the book as well,
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the big focus is how we just don't really understand
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what "misbehavior" in dogs is actually telling us.
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What is your take on why this is something
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that's really challenging for dog parents, if you will,
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versus dog owners, for dog parents to really grasp?
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Alexandra Horowitz: People who have had sequential dog relationships even
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are still surprised by this, I think.
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Because ...
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what we see publicly of dogs
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is usually very cooperative interactions with people, right?
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The dogs you see on the street or when you go to the park
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or when you're hiking or whatever it is,
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are dogs who are kind of cooperatively going along with a person
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as though they completely understand what this is about.
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And in some ways they do get to that point where,
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if not fully understanding what's happening all the time,
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they are flexible enough behaviorally
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to go along with what their human family asks and wants to do.
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But that doesn't happen instantly, right?
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And so we feel giving this appearance of,
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or even the memory of a past dog who was so cooperative,
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who felt like they knew your emotions
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and could anticipate what you were going to do,
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this new dog hasn't learned all that yet,
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and we feel as though that should come with them a little bit.
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That should come as part of their genetic makeup.
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Their ability to become sensitive to human behavior
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and learn a lot about humans is part of their genetic makeup,
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but not the understanding.
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And so it's quite a steep curve to go from knowing dog
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to knowing dog and human
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and being like, cleanly slipping into human society.
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WPR: Well, one thing I also really appreciate is the parallel you draw.
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And I think we talked about this before,
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just the parallel you draw between being a human parent and a dog parent.
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And I'm a fairly new parent.
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I have an almost two-year-old human child.
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And just curious what sort of skills you see that parents can take
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from their experiences in raising a dog.
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AH: It's interesting because people do talk about raising a dog
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as a kind of prelude to having a baby.
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But I feel like having a baby prepared me for having a puppy, you know,
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(Laughs)
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kind of a long period of no sleep at night, you know,
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where a child is sort of learning to settle themselves over the night.
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I mean, the puppy is going to do the same thing.
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But if you view it the other way,
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the more traditional way of the puppy as prelude,
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it's having a completely dependent creature, right?
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Dogs can get around on their own, but by being put into a home --
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I live in an apartment, but -- or a house --
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they're dependent on us for all the things.
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And we kind of forget that, right?
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Like, we decide when they eat,
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we decide when they can go out and relieve themselves.
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We decide when they get to exercise.
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We decide, often it's us deciding when we want to socialize
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and when we need them to be quiet.
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So their entire life is structured in this human way.
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This is what happens to a child as well, more slowly over time,
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because really a new parent, as you know,
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has to kind of restructure their own life around the baby.
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But the point is that the baby will eventually
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be able to sit cooperatively next to you while you do your Zoom
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and entertain herself, right?
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But with the puppy,
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we're expecting basically that from a non-human
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and we're also not giving them several years to learn.
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We're assuming that they're going to learn it relatively instantly
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and always be cooperative, you know, and sort of, get what it's all about.
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We really don't.
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The child, at least, the satisfaction of having a child,
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is that they do get it, right?
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You can eventually talk to them using a language and they can understand
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and appreciate what you're saying and imparting in that language.
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And the dog, even the really high-excelling, word-learning dogs
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don't understand our language,
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and yet we're still talking to them as though they do.
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That's fine with me.
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I love people talking to dogs and I talk to dogs.
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Just, let’s not pretend that they ... understand what we’re saying.
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WPR: This is -- great tips.
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And you should know, Alexandra,
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that we are getting lots and lots of questions in from our members.
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And so I want to dive into some of those ...
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So we have a question from TED Member Ann. They ask,
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"I'd love to know how to better manage a multi-dog household
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across three generations: 13, eight and four years old.”
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AH: Right.
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That's a great question
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and congratulations on having such a large dog household.
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That's great fun.
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I think one thing to realize, too,
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when we have multiple dogs
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is that these dogs are still really individuals, right?
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Everybody knows that if they have their own single dog,
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you feel like your dog is completely special.
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When you have multiple dogs,
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you still have multiple individuals
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and they really have to be treated separately, right? ...
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Probably your 13-year-old has preferences
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that your eight-year-old doesn't share.
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Some things they'll be able to do together and cooperatively,
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but I would expect as often or more often that they need to have their own time.
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They maybe need to have their own time with you or whoever the person is
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who they're bonded to or attached in the household.
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WPR: And we also have a couple of questions about language,
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sort of what you were saying earlier,
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that dogs will never be able to really speak our language.
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Just a question around whether or not, how much they’re actually understanding.
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So both TED Member Gordon and TED Member Agatha,
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they have this question
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around whether dogs understand tones and gestures,
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and Agatha specifically has a question
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about buttons that dogs can press to communicate in human language,
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whether or not those really improve communication
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and if dogs really even understand what those buttons mean.
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AH: Yeah so I mean, dogs are definitely understanding
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a good amount of what we say, right?
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They learn words and some dogs are extremely good at learning words
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and we know Chaser, you know, this famous border collie
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who learned a thousand words.
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John Pilley, who worked with Chaser,
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spent eight hours a day, every day, working with Chaser
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so that she would learn eventually a thousand words,
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and -- they were toys --
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and a couple of different verbs or actions which she could take with them.
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It was semantically and syntactically, you know,
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unprecedented for dogs and really neat, it shows their capacity.
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But unless you're really specifically and clearly talking to dogs
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eight hours a day about very limited items,
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your dog is not going to pick those things up.
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There's no reason to expect they would.
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That doesn't mean that there's no communication already happening, right?
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And I think what the button apparatuses
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that have gotten popular and have yet to be completely,
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you know, subject to science's scrutiny, by the way,
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there's no evidence that those ...
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actually represent what the dogs are thinking
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or are extending their communication ability.
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What they are potentially doing, though,
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is putting into a kind of language we understand
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something that the dog is interested in
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but is already showing in some other way.
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So if I'm a dog and I want to go outside, I can show you by --
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based on, you know, different dogs do it differently, maybe barking,
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coming over to you and trying to get your attention,
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looking at the door,
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walking over to the door, bringing a leash to you.
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Lots of things like that are communications.
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If instead, if as a person, I ignore all of those communications,
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but I also have a button as a dog which I could push,
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which says, "I want to go outside," maybe that will get us to listen.
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But I don't think that that's something that the dog is trying to communicate
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and can't until they have the button.
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The best that it can do, as far as we know now,
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is potentially make it easier for us to understand.
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But I do think that communication is already present.
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They are highly, highly skilled communicators
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and they understand a lot of what we're talking about,
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but not in the kind of linguistic way that humans think is so important,
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that enables us to have this Zoom today.
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And I think to deny them that is not to deny them the interest in
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or the ability to communicate.
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WPR: TED Member Ginger is curious
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about the best and earliest age to start training a dog
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and also connects to this,
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is curious about your thoughts about electronic training collars
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and behavioral training.
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AH: Yeah, well to start with the first part there,
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I mean, as I say, I don't explicitly train dogs,
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which doesn't mean I don't prepare them to be in human society
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and to live cooperatively and happily with our family.
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I do.
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For me, that started with actually socialization of the dog to other dogs,
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other people, and lots of different types of noises
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and surprising things before we got the dog.
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And that means in the first several weeks,
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maybe after about four weeks of their life, from four to nine weeks,
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they're in what's called a socialization period
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where they really need to be exposed to lots of types of situations
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that they might encounter later.
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And if they are then, then they become acclimated to them.
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And that is a kind of training, right?
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It's not like training to come or training to sit,
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but it’s training them that this is their world.
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There are airplanes flying overhead,
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there are people coming out of cars.
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You'll see new dogs and people and there are cats and there are birds.
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And in that period, they react calmly and with interest and curiosity.
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If you don't expose dogs to lots of different sounds
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and people and things ... in this socialization period,
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which usually extends till after dogs are adopted from a litter,
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then they might be fearful.
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They have difficulty dealing with those things.
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They get very anxious, they might become aggressive to those things.
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So that type of training starts as soon as you meet them, basically.
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And I think that will lead to the best solution.
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As to the second part of that, quickly, electronic collars I despise.
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There's no reason to use electronic collars
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or stimulation with any dog ever,
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as far as I'm concerned.
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What it teaches is that ... they will be randomly punished.
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You know, they have a very hard time associating that
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with the behavior that they just did.
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And this harkens back to what I was saying in the talk,
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which is our concept of what a behavior is or what an object is,
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“this is my shoe,” right,
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like, that that somehow is going to be a meaningful
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and important bit of knowledge for a dog
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to know that they shouldn't chew it.
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Similarly, if they're just walking along in a property
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and then something zaps them on the neck
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because they've hit an invisible fence, say,
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they might learn to avoid that whole area of the property,
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they might learn to stop walking,
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they might learn that the bird they saw right at that moment, coincidentally,
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is something to be feared.
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You know, they don't associate it with the thing we want them to,
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which is, "oh, there's a property line around your property,"
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or, "oh, you've just barked, so stop barking," right?
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So it's a very poor learning device
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and it can also be harmful.
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WPR: And we actually even have a question from TED Member Dimitris,
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about whether or not you can teach an old dog new tricks
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and really, how old is old?
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But maybe, could you share a little bit more
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about what development looks like after that first year?
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We're not seeing a complete plateau, of course, but what do we see?
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AH: Well, so most dogs, it's different by breed or mix,
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but most dogs will still be in adolescence till about two years old.
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So you can expect
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that they will have kind of reached their full size more or less,
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maybe by about a year, maybe will grow a little bit more.
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But they're still kind of teenagers and they're really big,
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strong teenagers with a lot of energy.
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And so in that second year of life,
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often they're still sometimes really disobedient,
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not cooperative and impulsive
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and clingy at one moment and then the next moment,
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like, don't want to have anything to do with you, right?
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So that continues.
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There continue to be socialization opportunities.
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I said there was a strong socialization period
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where you want to expose them to things
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that they might encounter later in life
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so that they have the best interaction with them.
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That still is the case,
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just to a lesser degree,
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through their second year
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where their brains are still changing, right?
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Just like the adolescent brain of a human,
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the adolescent brain of a dog is still in development until that time.
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After that time, they're adults.
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And I think here the analogy to humans is apt, right?
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They can absolutely learn new things,
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but sometimes they're slower to learn new things.
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Exposure to a new environment might take multiple stages
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if they're a little bit fearful or a little bit anxious,
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rather than just being able to waltz into a new environment
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and accept it, right,
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because that's just the way the world is.
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So ... learning happens maybe at a much slower pace,
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but absolutely happens.
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And learning can happen up till the end of their life, you know.
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I think it was in the last few months of our dog Finnegan's life,
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who lived to 14.5,
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that he suddenly started really getting interested in puzzle toys,
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where food is hidden under little compartments
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and you sort of have to turn a lever to unlock the compartment
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and open up the compartment.
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And he encountered that at age 14, right?
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He wasn't as quick at it as he would have been as a puppy,
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but he could learn that without a problem.
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He took up nose work,
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which is a kind of game of sniffing
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and finding things by smell alone,
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when he was about seven.
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And he took it up, you know, with alacrity.
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So absolutely keep stimulating them.
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There is research now happening on the aging canine brain.
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And like the aging human brain,
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it needs a stimulation to continue growth versus atrophy.
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WPR: It sounds like also some of the reasons
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dogs maybe have been returned has to do with this misunderstanding
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about misbehavior or the things you're suggesting here
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that we just don't really understand why dogs are behaving the way they are
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and see it as perhaps an inconvenience or challenge
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instead of an opportunity to interact with your dog differently, right?
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AH: Yeah, I mean, you say challenge,
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it's such a great word to use, right?
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There's a huge amount that's challenging about asking an animal to come
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and live cooperatively and neatly and tidily
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and with full understanding, in your home.
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And the fact of that shouldn't be so amazing.
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But I think it's still often overlooked.
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And yeah, in particular, adolescence, this time when,
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oh, you thought you taught your dog,
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you know, the rules of the house or everything they need to know
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for a little bit of that cooperative cohabitation to happen
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suddenly seem out the window
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and your dog is just running amok and being disobedient and so forth.
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That is when most dogs are relinquished to shelters.
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The authors of a great book on adolescence called "Wildhood"
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say like, essentially, you know, in that case,
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with the case of dogs, often adolescence is a death sentence
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because if the dog misbehaves and the person gives up the dog,
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then they might wind up being euthanized through no fault of their own,
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because simply we have too many dogs, right?
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I think it really behooves us as a society to know
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a little bit more of this going in, right?
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I don't want to de-romanticize the pleasure of living with dogs,
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but I want people to come in with their eyes open,
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realizing that these challenges are ahead and on the other side of that,
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and even through the challenges, is that satisfying relationship
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that they're looking for.
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WPR: TED Member Gloria is curious if dogs perceive color.
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AH: Right, absolutely, good question, Gloria,
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because for a long time it was assumed that they did not.
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And that was based on poor science, essentially.
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But they can see in colors, they have two-color vision
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versus our three-color vision.
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So we have cones for three different hues
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and they have cones for two different hues.
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So they won't distinguish clearly reds and oranges and yellows.
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And we don't know exactly what they'd look like,
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probably a little bit like adjoining colors.
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So for instance, if you ever go outside when it's dusk
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and you notice that, like, the colors seem muted a little bit,
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our guess is that that's more or less what their color vision is like.
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But they're perfectly able to see color.
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They also have great other visual abilities,
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like, they see motion much more quickly and readily than we do.
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And they see well in low light and they see well at night.
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So their eyes are really adapted to do something a little bit different
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than our three-color vision eyes are.
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WPR: And then TED Member Aria is curious why do our dogs smell our breath?
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AH: Oh, it's great information about us.
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And in fact ... there are now studies using exhaled breath
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to ask dogs whether they can determine
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which exhale includes cancerous notes
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to distinguish subjects who have lung cancer
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from those who do not.
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But there is a lot of information in your breath,
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not just about ...
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what you've eaten recently,
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but also about your health especially, right?
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So you know, in fact, doctors,
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human doctors used to use smell
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as a diagnostic material much more
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until about the early 20th century.
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And you know, the smell of a diabetic is especially sweet, for instance.
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And so just by smelling the breath of a patient,
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could potentially get some more information
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about whatever was concerning their patient
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and dogs can smell that.
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Do they know that's a diabetic? No.
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But do they know if something's different than before,
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you ate something different
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or maybe you're sick, you maybe have a cold,
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they might be more interested in your breath.
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I always pay attention if my dog is particularly interested
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in my even morning breath.
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WPR: Interesting, wow.
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It's their way of helping out.
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AH: (Laughs) Yeah. If you listen to them,
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they're probably saying something,
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even without the overarching knowledge of what’s behind it.
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WPR: Well, sort of along those same lines,
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we have an anonymous attendee who also asks
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why does their dog eat their own poop?
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Is this out of curiosity,
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are they doing it to get a reaction or is there something bigger happening?
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AH: There are lots of theories about this.
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This is called coprofagia and it's not uncommon.
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So your dog is not doing something wildly abnormal.
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Sometimes dogs will eat feces, their own or others',
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because there is a nutrient deficiency in their diet.
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I mean, it is actually full of nutrients still
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because we and dogs pass a lot of nutrients
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that we just haven't digested.
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So there might be something deficient.
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Some dogs will do it to remove evidence of their own odor.
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So actually, you know, the way that dogs will pee,
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and it leaves, in an effect, leaves their odor
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and they might even pee conspicuously
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on a high post or tree trunk or lamppost
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in order to have their odor smelled by other dogs.
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Feces, excreta can also be that information.
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But if you, for instance,
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didn't want to leave your information in a location,
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a dog might, for whatever reason --
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there was another dog nearby who you didn’t want to have an encounter with --
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they might consume their feces.
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If they'd been previously punished for pooing,
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maybe they would eat their feces.
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But, you know, there are lots of possibilities,
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I can't tell exactly, but I would always, always check with your vet
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and see if there's anything that they might be missing in their diet
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that maybe they're trying to make up for themselves.
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WPR: Well, Alexandra, you have shared so many really fascinating, helpful,
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just great information with us during this conversation.
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And just as we're starting to wrap up here,
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is there one thing of the things that you've shared here
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that you feel like, if you take nothing else from this conversation,
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that you hope folks will be able to use in their lives
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and their relationships with their dogs?
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AH: I think the hardest thing for people to realize about their dog,
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who is looking you in the eyes and following your gaze
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and walking by your side and such a loving companion,
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is that they exist in this parallel perceptual world of smell,
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which we don’t spend a lot of time in, or even try to avoid.
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And every dog who I've seen
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who is allowed to live in that world a little bit more,
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sniff things they want to sniff,
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intentionally go out for smell walks,
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is a happier dog.
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And I think the people wind up more satisfied
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in understanding what their dogs are doing as well,
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so take your dog for a smell walk.
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That's my final word.
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