Advanced English Conversation: Education in the US

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Vanessa: You are invited to a real Englishย ย 
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Vanessa:
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conversation with me and my husband, Dan. Dan:ย 
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์ €์™€ ์ œ ๋‚จํŽธ Dan๊ณผ์˜ ์‹ค์ œ ์˜์–ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Hi. Vanessa:ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. Vanessa: ์˜ค๋Š˜์€
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We're going to be talking about educationย  today. You asked us your top educationย ย 
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๊ต์œก์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ท€ํ•˜๋Š”
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questions in English, and we're going toย  have a chit-chat about those questions,ย ย 
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๊ต์œก ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ด๋‹น ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์žก๋‹ด์„ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋ฉฐ
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immerse you in English. I hope you will endย  up on the other side of this conversationย ย 
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์˜์–ด์— ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋”
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with a higher level of vocabulary, moreย  confidence about speaking in English,ย ย 
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๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์–ดํœ˜๋ ฅ๊ณผ ์˜์–ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์— ์„œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ,
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and you'll enjoy it along the way. Likeย  always, I've created a free PDF worksheet,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ์ €๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์–ดํœ˜, ์ •์˜, ์ƒ˜ํ”Œ ๋ฌธ์žฅ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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which is over Dan's face at the moment,ย  with all of today's important vocabulary,ย ย 
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ํ˜„์žฌ Dan์˜ ์–ผ๊ตด ์œ„์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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definitions, sample sentences. Everythingย  that you're going to hear in this lesson,ย ย 
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. ์ด ๊ฐ•์˜์—์„œ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚ด์šฉ์€
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you will get in the free PDF worksheet. So you canย  click on the link in the description to downloadย ย 
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๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ์— ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์„ค๋ช…์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ
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that free PDF worksheet today. All right, Dan, areย  you ready to get started with the first question-ย 
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Dan. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
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Dan: Yes.ย 
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00:53
Vanessa: ... that our students have asked us?ย 
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Dan: ๋„ค.
Vanessa: ...์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์š”์ฒญํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด์š”?
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Dan: I'm ready to get educated.ย 
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Dan: ๊ต์œก๋ฐ›์„ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋์–ด์š”.
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Vanessa: All right, let's do it.ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด, ํ•ด๋ณด์ž.
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These education questions were asked by my studentย  Carmen from Italy and Mayi in Australia. Are youย ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ต์œก ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ์ธ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์˜ Carmen๊ณผ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์˜ Mayi๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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ready for the first one? Dan:ย 
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”? ๋Œ„:
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I'm ready. Vanessa:ย 
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All right. The first question is, "What age doesย  school start in the U.S., that's where we're from,ย ย 
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์ค€๋น„๋์–ด์š”. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ " ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์— ํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ๊ณณ์ธ
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the U.S. "and what does the education system lookย  like?" So let's start with the first question,ย ย 
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ต์œก ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š” ?"์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ
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"What age does school start in the U.S.?" Dan:ย 
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"ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์— ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?"์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ?" Dan:
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So a lot of kids go to some kind of school aroundย  four years old, so this would be preschool. In aย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋งŽ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ดย  4์‚ด์ฏค์— ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์œ ์น˜์›์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ .
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lot of cases, this is not provided by the state. Vanessa:ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—, ์ด๋Š” ์ฃผ์—์„œ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . Vanessa:
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Yeah, this is something that parentsย  have to pay for out of pocket.ย 
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๋„ค, ์ด๊ฑด ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์€ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง์ ‘ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Dan: I would say this isย ย 
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Dan: ์ด ๊ณณ์€
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like daycare except maybe a little more educationย  peppered in 'cause they're really little kids,ย ย 
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์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด์ง‘๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๊ต์œก์ด ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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and then official school is kindergarten, whichย  starts around five or six years old. This is whereย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต์‹ ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ์œ ์น˜์›์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋Œ€๋žต 5~6์„ธ์— ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. . ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€
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real school begins. We're sitting and trying toย  learn our letters and alphabet and reading and,ย ย 
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์ง„์งœ ํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•‰์•„์„œ ๋ฌธ์ž์™€ ์•ŒํŒŒ๋ฒณ, ์ฝ๊ธฐ,
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"Here's numbers," and all that kind of thing.ย  Then elementary school would be first throughย ย 
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'์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ˆซ์ž' ๋“ฑ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ดˆ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๋Š” 1ํ•™๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
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fifth grade. Yeah, first through fifth grade,ย  which is probably what, seven to 11 or 12?ย 
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5ํ•™๋…„๊นŒ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, 1ํ•™๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 5ํ•™๋…„๊นŒ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 5ํ•™๋…„, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 7~11์„ธ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด 12์„ธ ์ •๋„?
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Vanessa: Yeah. Yeah.ย 
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Vanessa: ์‘, ์‘.
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Dan: Something like that.ย 
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Vanessa: 10, 11 yearsย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑฐ์š”.
๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: 10, 11์„ธ
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old. Dan:ย 
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Dan:
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Then it moves on to middle school, whichย  is everybody's favorite time of existence,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”
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12 to 14-ish. Vanessa:ย 
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12~14์„ธ์ธ ์ค‘ํ•™๊ต๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
02:20
This is a great example of sarcasm. Dan:ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ’์ž์˜ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
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Oh, yes. This is sarcasm. Yeah, middleย  school not known for being the most fun time.ย 
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ’์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์ค‘ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
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Vanessa: No.ย 
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02:28
Dan: It's funny because a lot of kids are movingย ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
Dan: ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋งŽ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์›€์ง์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์–ด์š”
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at this time. They could be going to a differentย  school, different classes, and then you're goingย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™๊ต, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ˆ˜์—…์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€
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through this awkward time in your life and,ย  "Here's some other new people for you. It'll beย ย 
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์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์ด ์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , "์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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fun." So yeah, that's an interesting time. Vanessa:ย 
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๊ตฐ์š”. Vanessa:
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Usually, middle school has theย  stereotype of being pretty rough,ย ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ค‘ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ๊ฝค ๊ฑฐ์น ๊ณ 
02:46
pretty tricky. Then after middle school is highย  school. By that point you're what, 14 years old?ย 
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๊ฝค ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กญ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ณ ์ •๊ด€๋…์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘ํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ 14์‚ด์ด๊ตฐ์š”?
02:53
Dan: You're a real man.ย 
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Vanessa: 14 through 18 years old,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ง„์งœ ๋‚จ์ž์˜ˆ์š”.
Vanessa: 14~18์„ธ์ด๋ฏ€๋กœย ย  ์‚ฌ์ถ˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€
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so you're not right at the beginning, the cusp ofย  puberty. Instead, you're a little further in andย ย 
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์‹œ์ž‘๋˜๋Š” ์‹œ์ ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋Œ€์‹ ์—, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ข€ ๋” ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ 
03:01
maybe a little more mature, maybe? Dan:ย 
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์„ฑ์ˆ™ํ•ด์กŒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ . Dan:
03:05
Ninth grade is still awkward- Vanessa:ย 
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9ํ•™๋…„์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•ด์š”. Vanessa:
03:07
Ninth grade is still pretty awkward. Dan:ย 
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03:07
... 'cause when you're in ninth grade and you'reย  14 or 15, and then you see a 17 or 18 year old,ย ย 
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9ํ•™๋…„์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹๊ฝค ์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•ด์š”. Dan:
... ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด 9ํ•™๋…„์ด๊ณ  14์„ธ ๋˜๋Š” 15์„ธ์ด๊ณ  17์„ธ ๋˜๋Š” 18์„ธ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ,
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especially if you're a guy like me, puberty canย  hit all of a sudden and then you'll be a manย ย 
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ถ˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‹ฅ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
03:20
versus like I was, a boy. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์†Œ๋…„์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
03:22
A little boy when you were- Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ์˜ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์†Œ๋…„- Dan:
03:23
Yes. Vanessa:ย 
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03:23
... in ninth grade. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
... 9ํ•™๋…„์ด์—์š”. ๋Œ„:
03:24
Hi, guys. Vanessa:ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. Vanessa:
03:27
So this is the typical progression of school,ย  and there's a couple different options in theย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํ•™๊ต ์ง„ํ–‰ ๊ณผ์ • ์ด๊ณ ย  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ต์…˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:32
U.S. You could go to public school, which is free.ย  It's paid for by your taxes. So if you pay taxes,ย ย 
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๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์œผ๋กœ ์ง€๋ถˆ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์„ ๋‚ฉ๋ถ€ํ•˜๋ฉด
03:39
it's technically not free. Dan:ย 
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๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
03:41
Free, not free. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฌด๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
03:42
Yes, free, not free. It's paid for by the state.ย  You could go to public school. You could go to aย ย 
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๋„ค, ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
public charter school, so this is a nuance whereย  you don't have to pay extra to go to a charterย ย 
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๊ณต๋ฆฝ ์ฐจํ„ฐ ์Šค์ฟจ์„ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ๋„ ์ฐจํ„ฐ
03:55
school, but it's somehow- Dan:ย 
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์Šค์ฟจ์„ ๋‹ค๋‹ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‰˜์•™์Šค์ธ๋ฐ ์–ด์ฉ์ง€- Dan:
03:57
It's run privately. Vanessa:ย 
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์‚ฌ๋ฆฝ์œผ๋กœ ์šด์˜๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
03:59
It's run privately, it's smaller. Usually, theย  programs have a little bit higher quality, and toย ย 
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๋น„๊ณต๊ฐœ๋กœ ์šด์˜๋˜๊ณ  ๊ทœ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ž‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์˜ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋†’์œผ๋ฉฐ,
04:05
get into a charter school, you often need to do aย  lottery. This isn't like the lottery where you tryย ย 
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์ฐจํ„ฐ์Šค์ฟจ์— ์ž…ํ•™ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์ถ”์ฒจ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
04:10
to win a million dollars. This is where you justย  sign up and they pull a kid's name out of a hat,ย ย 
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๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณต๊ถŒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์ž…๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ์ž์—์„œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด ์ด๋ฆ„์„
04:16
totally random. If you get it, you get it, and ifย  you don't, you don't. So it's not based on yourย ย 
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๋ฌด์ž‘์œ„๋กœ ๋ฝ‘์•„๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ป์œผ๋ฉด ์–ป๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜
04:22
income, it's not based on where you live, becauseย  most public schools are based on where you live.ย ย 
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์†Œ๋“์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฑฐ์ฃผ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ์„ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:27
You have to go to the school in your neighborhood. Dan:ย 
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๋™๋„ค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ๋Œ„:
04:30
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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04:30
But a charter- Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ—Œ์žฅ- Dan:
04:31
... kind of stinks. Vanessa:ย 
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... ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”. Vanessa:
04:32
... school, especially if you live in an areaย  that's really poor, well, your school is probablyย ย 
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... ํ•™๊ต, ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ์— ์‚ฐ๋‹ค๋ฉด , ์Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„
04:36
not going to be very high quality, and there's aย  lot of controversy about that 'cause it's a cycle.ย 
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ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋†’์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ˆœํ™˜์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ผ๋ž€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:41
Dan: Yeah, it's definitely a cycle.ย 
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Dan: ๋„ค, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ˆœํ™˜์ด์—์š”.
04:42
Vanessa: You don't have asย ย 
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Vanessa:
04:43
many resources to get out of poverty and all ofย  that. So we've got public school, charter school,ย ย 
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๋นˆ๊ณค๊ณผ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž์›์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต, ์ฐจํ„ฐ์Šค์ฟจ,
04:48
private school. I have a little statistic hereย  I looked up in advance, fancy. Private schools,ย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ†ต๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝ ํ•™๊ต,
04:54
9% of students go to a private school and parentsย  have to pay extra for a private school. It couldย ย 
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9%์˜ ํ•™์ƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ํ•™๋ถ€๋ชจ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:01
be a religious private school, it could beย  a secular private school. Our child, Theo-ย 
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์ข…๊ต์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์„ธ์†์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด ํ…Œ์˜ค-
05:08
Dan: He's probably in the 1% becauseย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ž์—ฐํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 1%์— ์†ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
05:11
he goes to a nature school. Vanessa:ย 
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. Vanessa:
05:13
It's not religious based- Dan:ย 
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05:13
He's in the 0.5%. Vanessa:ย 
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์ข…๊ต์  ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
๊ทธ๋Š” 0.5%์— ์†ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
05:14
It's a very unusual private school. But there'sย  also other types of private schools like in natureย ย 
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์•„์ฃผ ํŠน์ดํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์˜ˆ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
05:22
school where half of the day they spend timeย  outside in the woods or the teachers try toย ย 
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์„ ์ˆฒ ์†์—์„œ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ต์‚ฌ๊ฐ€
05:29
incorporate the outside nature into the lessons. Dan:ย 
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์™ธ๋ถ€ ์ž์—ฐ์„ ์ˆ˜์—…์— ํ†ตํ•ฉํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ ํ•™๊ต์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝ ํ•™๊ต๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
05:33
A lot of times these schools will call themselvesย  alternative education, so that just means, "We'reย ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋Œ€์•ˆ ๊ต์œก์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ฆ‰, '์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
05:40
trying to do something different here." Vanessa:ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.'๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
05:42
There's varying degrees of quality. Just becauseย  you're paying for it doesn't mean that it's goingย ย 
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ํ’ˆ์งˆ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ
05:47
to be vastly better quality than the free publicย  school. So if you come to the U.S. and you think,ย ย 
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๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต๋ณด๋‹ค ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ข‹๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์˜ค์…”์„œ
05:53
"I want my kid to have the best education. Iย  think I can afford to pay for private school,"ย ย 
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'๋‚ด ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๊ต์œก์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์–ด. ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต ๋“ฑ๋ก๊ธˆ์€ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
05:58
make sure you check it out first, and makeย  sure that it's actually the quality thatย ย 
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๋จผ์ € ํ™•์ธํ•ด๋ณด์‹œ๊ณ , ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์ด ์ข‹์€์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”
06:02
you want. There are a lot of scholarships,ย  actually. So the school that our son goes to,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ํ•™๊ต์—๋Š”
06:07
a lot of people have an 80% scholarship to go toย  the school, which makes it very affordable. Theย ย 
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80% ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์•„ ํ•™๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ €๋ ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
state has scholarships, the school providesย  some scholarships. There's some grants givenย ย 
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์ฃผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ , ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•™๊ต์— ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ณด์กฐ๊ธˆ์ด ์ œ๊ณต๋˜๋ฏ€๋กœ
06:20
to the school to provide scholarships, soย  they're trying to make it more accessible.ย 
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๋” ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
Dan: Yeah. Most schools, especially private schools andย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์‘. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํ•™๊ต, ํŠนํžˆ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝ ํ•™๊ต ๋ฐ
06:28
anything education related, you're going to findย  a lot of organizations that will try to help kidsย ย 
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๊ต์œก๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด
06:34
get into whatever they really, really want, andย  the government helps with that as well in America.ย 
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์ •๋ง๋กœ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋•๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์กฐ์ง์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋„ ์ •๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ง€์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:39
Vanessa: Yeah. I think a lotย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์‘. ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋งŽ์€
06:40
of it comes down to the parents having the abilityย  to sign up, follow through with the applications,ย ย 
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๊ฒƒ์€ ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜๊ณ , ์‹ ์ฒญ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ž‘์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ ,
06:46
sign up for the scholarships- Dan:ย 
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์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ชจ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.- Dan:
06:48
Now, that doesn't mean it's easy. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
06:49
It doesn't mean it's easy, but it is an option.ย  There's a fourth option, which is what Danย ย 
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์‰ฝ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์„ ํƒ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด์—์š”. ๋„ค ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์˜ต์…˜์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, Dan์ด
06:56
experienced when he was a child, homeschooling. Dan:ย 
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
06:59
Look at me. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
07:01
So interestingly enough, what percent of Americansย  do you think homeschool? This means that generallyย ย 
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์•„์ฃผ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ์ค‘ ๋ช‡ ํผ์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์ฆ‰, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
07:06
don't peak your mom or- Dan:ย 
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์—„๋งˆ์—๊ฒŒ ์ตœ๊ณ ์ ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
07:08
This is what I learned in homeschooling. Vanessa:ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์—์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
07:10
Your mom or your dad is your teacher, usually yourย  mom. There's local organizations that you can joinย ย 
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์—„๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์•„๋น ๊ฐ€ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด์‹œ์ฃ . ๋Œ€๊ฐœ๋Š” ์—„๋งˆ์˜ˆ์š”. ํ˜‘๋™์กฐํ•ฉ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งค์ฃผ ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ ์กฐ์ง์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
07:18
weekly, like a co-op, they call it a homeschoolingย  co-op. What percent of American childrenย ย 
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, ์ด๋ฅผ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง ํ˜‘๋™์กฐํ•ฉ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:26
are homeschooling as of 2021 or 2022? Dan:ย 
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2021๋…„ ๋˜๋Š” 2022๋…„ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด ์ค‘ ๋ช‡ ํผ์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
07:29
Well, I would've guessed it was very low. See, Iย  think I looked at your phone earlier and saw it-ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋‚ฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ถ”์ธกํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ด๋ด, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๊นŒ ๋„ค ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ-
07:36
Vanessa: You cheated.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ˆ ๋ฐ”๋žŒํ”ผ์› ์–ด.
07:37
Dan: Well, you showed it to me-ย 
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Dan: ๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ณด์—ฌ์คฌ์ž–์•„-
07:39
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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07:39
Dan: ... but I would've guessed like 2%-ย 
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Vanessa: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
Dan: ... ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” 2% ์ •๋„๋ผ๊ณ  ์ถ”์ธกํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:41
Vanessa: Ah, okay.ย 
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Vanessa: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ตฐ์š”.
07:43
Dan: ... before seeing that-ย 
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Dan: ...๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ „์—-
07:44
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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07:44
Dan: ... but I think it's higher.ย 
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Vanessa: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Dan: ...ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋” ๋†’์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
07:45
Vanessa: Yes, the answer is 7%.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๋Œ€๋‹ต์€ 7%์˜ˆ์š”.
07:47
Dan: Which is pretty high, actually.ย 
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Dan: ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ฝค ๋†’์€๋ฐ์š”.
07:48
Vanessa: It's almost the same amountย ย 
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Vanessa:
07:50
as go to private school. Dan:ย 
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์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธˆ์•ก์ด์—์š”. ๋Œ„:
07:51
Yeah, that's crazy. Vanessa:ย 
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์‘, ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ๋ผ. Vanessa:
07:52
Yeah, so 7%. The interesting thing is- Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ 7%์ฃ . ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€- Dan:
07:54
I guess it probably bumped up after COVID too. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ์ดํ›„์—๋„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฌ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
07:56
Yes, that's the big thing. So before COVID, it wasย  I think, 4 or 5%, and now it's 7% and it's growingย ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๋ฐ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ์ด์ „์—๋Š” 4~5%์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ 7%์ด๊ณ 
08:06
10% every year. So it's hard to talk about thoseย  stats, but it's growing every year because of allย ย 
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๋งค๋…„ 10%์”ฉ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ†ต๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ต์ง€๋งŒ ๊ต์œก์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ณ€ํ™”๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋งค๋…„ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:14
the changes in education. Dan:ย 
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. ๋Œ„:
08:15
Yeah. Public school has gotten a bad reputationย  as well. There's varying qualities, but a lotย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต ์—ญ์‹œ ๋‚˜์œ ํ‰ํŒ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ํŠน์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€
08:22
of people, where they live, their school is notย  very good. It is not just teachers, it's also theย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด๋‚˜ ํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
08:29
peers you're with, and it's... I don't know.ย  Obviously, I teach at an alternative school,ย ย 
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ ... ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ €๋Š” ๋Œ€์•ˆํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ธฐ
08:34
so I am not a big fan of the traditional model,ย  and I don't like all the bureaucracy. Not to sayย ย 
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ด€๋ฃŒ์ฃผ์˜๋„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ
08:41
that there's not a lot of good-hearted people inย  the system, I just think that the system is, well,ย ย 
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์— ๋งˆ์Œ์”จ ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†๊ณ  , ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด, ์Œ,
08:46
it might sound a little cliche, but it's broken. Vanessa:ย 
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ง„๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ ์žฅ ๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
08:49
Yeah. So those are the general options in theย  U.S., and I think the cool thing is that if youย ย 
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๋„ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์˜ต์…˜์ด๊ณ  ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ ์€
08:56
choose an alternative option, private school,ย  charter school, homeschooling, it's not seen asย ย 
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๋Œ€์•ˆ ์˜ต์…˜์ธ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต, ์ฐจํ„ฐ ์Šค์ฟจ, ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋ฉด
09:03
very weird. It's unusual, it's not the majority,ย  but you're not like an outcast. You're not soย ย 
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๋ณ„๋กœ ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠน์ดํ•œ ์ผ์ด๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋‹ค์ˆ˜๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฒ„๋ฆผ๋ฐ›์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
09:08
weird like, "Oh my goodness, you homeschool?"ย  It's not that generally it's just, "Oh, okay,ย ย 
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"๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ, ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง ์ค‘์ด์„ธ์š”?"์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹จ์ง€ "์•„, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:13
someone does something different." Iย  think that's in the American culture.ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:17
Dan: That is very much an American culture thing.ย 
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Dan: ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:19
Vanessa: You try to accept people who do different things.ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์š”.
09:23
Dan: Because we lived in South Korea for a while,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ด์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
09:26
we felt that difference so big. We never metย  anybody who homeschooled there. We met one familyย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ผˆ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๊ณ 
09:33
and we're like, "Whoa, this is amazing." Vanessa:ย 
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'์™€, ์ด๊ฑฐ ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•˜๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
09:36
Everyone uses the same education systemย  and deviating from that norm is reallyย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋™์ผํ•œ ๊ต์œก ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ํ‘œ์ค€์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
09:40
unusual in that culture. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ ์ •๋งย ย  ์ด๋ก€์ ์ธ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
09:41
Yeah, or even looked down on. But in America,ย  if you do something different like that, people,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ฌด์‹œํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
09:46
they may sometimes go and whisper about itย  or say, "I don't really agree with that," butย ย 
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๊ฐ€๋” ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์†์‚ญ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ "๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋™์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ฉด
09:52
they'll never tell you to your face that theyย  have a problem with a decision you might make,ย ย 
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์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ •,
09:58
especially a personal decision. Vanessa:ย 
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ํŠนํžˆ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฐ์ •์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
10:00
Dan was homeschooled until how old? Dan:ย 
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Dan์€ ๋ช‡ ์‚ด๊นŒ์ง€ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‚˜์š”? ๋Œ„:
10:02
Yes, until 13- Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค, 13์„ธ๊นŒ์ง€์š”.- ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
10:05
13? Dan:ย 
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10:05
I think, yes- Vanessa:ย 
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13์„ธ์š”? Dan:
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.- Vanessa:
10:06
Okay- Dan:ย 
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10:06
... until middle school- Vanessa:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.- Dan:
... ์ค‘ํ•™๊ต ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€- Vanessa:
10:07
... and Dan's pretty cool. Dan:ย 
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... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Dan์€ ๊ฝค ๋ฉ‹์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๋Œ„:
10:08
... roughly. Yes, and I feel like homeschoolingย  today is way better than it was when I was a kid.ย 
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... ๋Œ€๋žต์ ์œผ๋กœ์š”. ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์š”์ฆ˜ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์ด ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„์ง„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
10:13
Vanessa: Way more resources.ย 
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Vanessa: ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
10:14
Dan: I think that what I experienced I don't want forย ย 
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Dan: ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์ œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:18
my kids, but today, I can feasibly see how you canย  build up certain social exposures, have certainย ย 
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํŠน์ • ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๋…ธ์ถœ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ํŠน์ •
10:27
groups. There's a ton of resources online. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฃน์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
10:29
Yeah. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋Œ„:
10:30
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. Vanessa:
10:31
Your mom certainly did the best that she could do. Dan:ย 
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๋„ˆํฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ž์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•˜์…จ์–ด. ๋Œ„:
10:32
Oh, yeah. My mom did a good job. I think it wasย  just, for me personally, I don't think it fit whatย ย 
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
10:39
I probably needed as a child looking back. Vanessa:ย 
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์„ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๋ณด๋ฉฐ ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋‚ด์šฉ๊ณผ ๋งž์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
10:42
Like you needed more pressure to- Dan:ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์••๋ ฅ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ- Dan:
10:44
I needed an- Vanessa:ย 
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10:44
... have deadlines- Dan:ย 
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ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.- Vanessa:
... ๋งˆ๊ฐ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.- Dan:
10:45
... out. Vanessa:ย 
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10:45
... and stuff. Dan:ย 
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... ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ. Dan:
10:46
I needed another authority otherย  than my mom, and I needed better,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์—„๋งˆ ์™ธ์— ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ถŒ์œ„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋” ๋‚˜์€, ๋”
10:50
a bigger social circle and a little moreย  structured education I think would've beenย ย 
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ํฐ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ด€๊ณ„์™€ ์ข€ ๋” ์ฒด๊ณ„ํ™”๋œ ๊ต์œก์ด ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”
10:57
good for me. Not that my mom wasn't somewhatย  structured, but it is a different kind of thing.ย 
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์•˜์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:02
Vanessa: Yeah. Homeschooling in the '90s comparedย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์‘. 90๋…„๋Œ€ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง๊ณผ
11:04
to homeschooling now 30 years later, that's crazy.ย  All right, let's go on to question number two,ย ย 
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30๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚œ ์ง€๊ธˆ์˜ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:10
"Do most American students go to universitiesย  after their graduation? Is it consideredย ย 
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'๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์€ ์กธ์—… ํ›„ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€๋‚˜์š” ? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
11:16
important?" Let's talk about our general feelย  first, and then I've got some stats about-ย 
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์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋˜๋‚˜์š”?' ๋จผ์ € ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋Š๋‚Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ, ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ†ต๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:21
Dan: Yeah, good-ย 
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Dan: ๋„ค, ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:22
Vanessa: ... how many people actually go-ย 
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Vanessa: ... ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€-
11:23
Dan: ... because I haven't looked at the stats.ย 
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Dan: ... ํ†ต๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:24
Vanessa: Okay.ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
11:25
Dan: This time, I didn't make it that far.ย 
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Dan: ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:26
Vanessa: Let's hear what's inside your heart, Dan?ย 
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Vanessa: Dan, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์†์— ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณผ๊นŒ์š”?
11:28
Dan: So I think, yes, people generally go to,ย ย 
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Dan: ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”, ๋„ค, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ 
11:31
we would say college, but I think- Vanessa:ย 
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”- Vanessa:
11:34
It's the same thing. Dan:ย 
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11:34
... a lot of the world would say university.ย  I don't know the percentage, but I would say-ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan:
... ์„ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋Œ€ํ•™์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„์œจ์€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ-
11:40
Vanessa: What's your guess? What'sย ย 
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Vanessa: ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ถ”์ธกํ•˜์„ธ์š”?
11:42
your guess is a good time? Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ์–ธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋Œ„:
11:43
80? No, 75%. Vanessa:ย 
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80? ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, 75%์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
11:46
Wow. Really? Dan:ย 
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์™€. ์ •๋ง? ๋Œ„:
11:48
Yeah. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
11:49
Okay. Dan:ย 
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11:49
What is it? Vanessa:ย 
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์•Œ์•˜์–ด. ๋Œ„:
๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ”๋ฐ? Vanessa:
11:50
Okay, well- Dan:ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
11:51
No, no, no, it's 92%, 61%. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, 92%, 61%์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
11:56
I think this is showing your bias because-ย 
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด-
12:00
Dan: 50%-ย 
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Dan: 50%-
12:01
Vanessa: ... let's-ย 
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12:01
Dan: I don't know which way the bias is.ย 
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Vanessa: ... ํ•˜์ž-
Dan: ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์ด ์–ด๋Š ์ชฝ์ธ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:03
Vanessa: Let's say that, so for us,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
12:05
we have a four-year degree, and that's what youย  call it when you go to college for four-years.ย ย 
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4๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋Œ€ํ•™์— 4๋…„์ œ ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ฃ .
12:09
You could have a two-year degree. It's called anย  associate's degree or a four-year degree. We haveย ย 
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2๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ์ทจ๋“ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค€ ํ•™์‚ฌ ํ•™์œ„ ๋˜๋Š” 4๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
12:16
four-year degrees, and I think there's been someย  studies that show if you have a four-year degree,ย ย 
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4๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 4๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ์†Œ์ง€ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
12:21
most of the people in your social circle also haveย  the same or close to the same level of education.ย 
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์‚ฌํšŒ๊ณ„์— ์†ํ•œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๋™์ผํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๊ต์œก์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ตฌ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:26
Dan: Yeah, everybody I know is edumacated.ย 
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Dan: ์‘, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ต์œก์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด.
12:28
Vanessa: So that's why you think it's so high.ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ตฐ์š”.
12:32
Dan: Dang it. I should have thought about that.ย 
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๋Œ„: ์  ์žฅ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
12:33
Vanessa: Okay, let's compare 1990 to 2021.ย 
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Vanessa: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1990๋…„๊ณผ 2021๋…„์„ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:38
Dan: Okay.ย 
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Dan: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:39
Vanessa: In 1990,ย ย 
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Vanessa: 1990๋…„์—๋Š”
12:41
the people who graduated high school were 77%. Soย  77% of students graduated from high school and 20%ย ย 
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๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์กธ์—…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด 77%์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 77%์˜ ํ•™์ƒ์ด ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์กธ์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  20%
12:49
of people graduated from college. Okay?2021,ย  91% of people graduated from high school-ย 
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์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ์กธ์—…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?2021๋…„์—๋Š” 91%์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์กธ์—…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:59
Dan: Okay.ย 
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Dan: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:00
Vanessa: ... so much higher percentage rate,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ... ๋น„์œจ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋†’๊ณ 
13:01
and 38% of people graduate from college. Dan:ย 
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38%์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ์กธ์—…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:ย  ์•„์ง
13:04
I'm way off. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ฉ€์—ˆ์–ด. Vanessa:
13:05
Yep, so it is higher. Dan:ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋” ๋†’์€๋ฐ์š”. Dan:
13:07
It has bumped up a lot, though. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ์˜ฌ๋ž์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
13:08
All of the charts that I saw were all going up, soย  finishing high school and college are definitelyย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฐจํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ƒ์Šนํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต์™€ ๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต ์กธ์—…๋ฅ ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ
13:14
on the rise, not 70% or whatever you said.ย  But it probably is 70% of the people we know,ย ย 
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70%๋‚˜ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ƒ์Šน์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ 70%์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:21
which I think is- Dan:ย 
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”- Dan:
13:22
Oh, for sure. Vanessa:ย 
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13:22
... quite interesting. That's part of the cycleย  of education, I think, that if you don't knowย ย 
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์•„, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
... ๊ฝค ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๋„ค์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ต์œก ์ฃผ๊ธฐ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”
13:27
anyone who's been to college, it probably won'tย  be a priority for you. It will be harder for youย ย 
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๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ๋‹ค๋…€๋ณธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์ด
13:32
to go 'cause you won't have people who know howย  that process works and all of that. But if you'veย ย 
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋“ฑ์„ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด
13:37
been to college like us, it will be easier for ourย  kids to do that process because we've been there.ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๋‹ค๋…”๋‹ค๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๋” ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:43
Dan: Yes, I'm glad I could be instructive ofย ย 
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Dan: ๋„ค,
13:45
a fallacy about my personal experience, but- Vanessa:ย 
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์ œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜ค๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ธฐ์˜๋„ค์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ- Vanessa:
13:49
Well, thanks for being willing to be theย  fallacy in front of millions of people online.ย 
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์Œ, ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์•ž์—์„œ ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ์˜ค๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:52
Dan: Yes, you're welcome everybody.ย 
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๋Œ„: ๋„ค, ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:55
Vanessa: But this is also a part two of the question,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:57
"Is it considered important?" Dan:ย 
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'์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋˜๋Š”๊ฐ€?' Dan:
13:59
Oh, well, again, this probably goes to yourย  social circle because in my social circle,ย ย 
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์•„, ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์‚ฌ๊ต๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š”
14:04
it was super important, and I thinkย  this is probably family by family.ย 
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๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ๋Œ€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ต๊ณ„์— ์ „๋‹ฌ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:09
Vanessa: I would say it's almost expected. If your parents-ย 
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Vanessa: ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋œ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด-
14:12
Dan: Yes.ย 
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14:12
Vanessa: ... are college graduates-ย 
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Dan: ๋„ค.
Vanessa: ... ๋Œ€ํ•™ ์กธ์—…์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:13
Dan: ... definitely.ย 
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14:13
Vanessa: ... it's almost expected,ย ย 
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Dan: ... ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
Vanessa: ... ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋œ ์ผ์ด์ฃ .
14:14
of course, you'll go to college. Dan:ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐˆ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. Dan:
14:16
However, I think I have heard from certain...ย  like our neighbor, I think she said she was theย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ... ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ด์›ƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ž๊ธฐ๊ฐ€
14:23
first to go to college, and it was lookedย  upon as great, but it wasn't expected.ย ย 
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ”๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:31
But as a society, it is definitely encouraged.ย  There's ads playing on the TV and YouTube,ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์žฅ๋ ค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. TV์™€ YouTube์—๋Š” ๊ด‘๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ณ 
14:39
and every teacher will tell you going to college,ย  and I'm just going to say university 'cause moreย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋Œ€ํ•™์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋” ๋งŽ์€
14:45
people say that probably, going to university isย  going to be a great benefit to your life and allย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ธ์ƒ์— ํฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹ค
14:51
this kind of stuff. So I think that is definitelyย  pushed in society. That probably is another reasonย ย 
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์—์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ์ถ”์ง„๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„
14:57
why I think that a lot of people go, but I'mย  also forgetting about how expensive it is.ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์œ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ, ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋น„์‹ผ์ง€๋„ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
15:03
Vanessa: Yeah, that's the other thing is that it's-ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ ์€-
15:05
Dan: For a lot of schools-ย 
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Dan: ๋งŽ์€ ํ•™๊ต์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ-
15:06
Vanessa: ... really expensive.ย ย 
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Vanessa: ... ์ •๋ง ๋น„์‹ธ์š”. 4๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
15:08
I would say anywhere between 30,000 and $200,000ย  for a four-year degree, depending on if you go toย ย 
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$30,000์—์„œ $200,000 ์‚ฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
15:16
a community college or if you go to a stateย  school or if you go to a private school,ย ย 
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์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ ์นผ๋ฆฌ์ง€์— ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€, ์ฃผ๋ฆฝ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€, ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ
15:21
it can range anywhere in there. That's a bigย  burden for a young person starting off in theirย ย 
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๊ทธ ๋ฒ”์œ„๋Š” ์–ด๋””๋“  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ Š์€์ด๊ฐ€
15:27
career to have to pay for the schools. Dan:ย 
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ํ•™๊ต ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ๋ถ€๋‹ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
15:29
The state schools aren't cheap or free? Vanessa:ย 
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๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต๋Š” ์ €๋ ดํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋„ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€์š”? Vanessa:
15:32
They are not cheap, and they are not free. Dan:ย 
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๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ์ €๋ ดํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋„ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
15:34
Okay. I actually don't know. Vanessa:ย 
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15:34
They are cheaper than private schools.ย  It's a very complicated system, but-ย 
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์•Œ์•˜์–ด. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”. Vanessa:
์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์ด ์ €๋ ดํ•ด์š”. ๋งค์šฐ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด์ง€๋งŒ-
15:39
Dan: I thinkย ย 
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Dan: ์ œ๊ฐ€
15:40
I'm a little ignorant in this realm because Iย  haven't thought about college in a while, butย ย 
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ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฌด์ง€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ
15:46
we went to a small private school andย  that's known for being pretty expensive.ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์†Œ๊ทœ๋ชจ ์‚ฌ๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋…”๋Š”๋ฐ ํ•™๋น„๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ๋น„์‹ธ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:51
Vanessa: Yeah. Yeah. For me,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ: ์‘. ์‘. ์ €๋Š”
15:53
I had to get a lot of scholarships to go to thatย  school, so I applied for tons of scholarships. Theย ย 
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๊ทธ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๋ ค๋ฉด ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•ด์„œ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ์‹ ์ฒญํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ
15:59
school also had scholarships, and it was prettyย  much required if I was going to go to that school,ย ย 
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ํ•™๊ต์—๋„ ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
16:04
I had to have a lot of money already paid for;ย  otherwise, it was just too expensive. But I thinkย ย 
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์ด๋ฏธ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋น„์ŒŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”
16:11
it's interesting because of our experience, weย  felt, I can speak for you too, we felt prettyย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋Œ€์‹ ํ•ด ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๊ผˆ๊ณ , ๊ฝค
16:16
burdened. Even though we had scholarships,ย  we felt pretty burdened post-college to payย ย 
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๋ถ€๋‹ด๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ•™ ์กธ์—… ํ›„ ํ•™์ž๊ธˆ ๋Œ€์ถœ์„ ๊ฐš๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฝค ๋ถ€๋‹ด๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:22
back our student loans. When you start off yourย  life, your adult life in debt, that's so hard. Myย ย 
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. ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ์„ฑ์ธ์ด ๋˜์–ด ๋นš์„ ์ง€๊ณ  ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
16:29
parents tried so hard, they paid a lot of money. I had a lot of scholarships, and I still hadย ย 
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์…”์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ , ์•„์ง๋„
16:34
college debt that I had to pay back. So evenย  though I think I was probably starting offย ย 
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๊ฐš์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๋Œ€ํ•™ ๋นš์ด ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„
16:39
in the best possible position, it stillย  felt like a burden. So I think for us,ย ย 
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ์œ„์น˜์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ถ€๋‹ด์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š”,
16:45
at least for our children, I have no idea whatย  the education scene will look like in anotherย ย 
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์ ์–ด๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์•ž์œผ๋กœ 15๋…„ ํ›„์— ๊ต์œก ํ˜„์žฅ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชจ์Šต์ผ์ง€ ์ „ํ˜€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ
16:51
15 years, but I think that we might have aย  different perspective on college because we'veย ย 
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, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:59
been there. We know what it's like. We know ifย  it helped us or not in our life and how expensiveย ย 
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. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•„๋‹Œ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋น„์‹ผ์ง€,
17:06
it is and if it's worth it. Are there otherย  alternatives? Yeah, and in our changing world,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋Œ€์•ˆ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ๋Š”
17:11
those might be better. I don't know. Dan:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ๋‚˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
17:13
Yeah, I think it's a cliche among people our ageย  that college is not worth it and that it's justย ย 
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๋„ค, ๋Œ€ํ•™์€ ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ณ , ๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ
17:21
way too expensive for what you get out of it, andย  it doesn't really prepare you and all this stuff.ย 
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์–ป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋น„ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋น„์‹ธ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ค€๋น„์‹œํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋˜๋ž˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ๋Š” ์ง„๋ถ€ํ•œ ๋ง์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:26
Vanessa: I think if you graduatedย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
17:28
2005 to 2010, 2000, around thatย  2000, maybe even 15 in that range,ย ย 
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2005๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 2010๋…„, 2000๋…„์— ์กธ์—…ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ 2000๋…„์ฏค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ ๋ฒ”์œ„์—์„œ 15๋…„ ์ •๋„ ์กธ์—…ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
17:37
you probably feel like us that your degree doesย  not mean you will get a good-paying job. It's notย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ•™์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข‹์€ ๊ธ‰์—ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์ง์—…์„ ์–ป๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด
17:46
a given that that will happen. Dan:ย 
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์ผ์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฃผ์–ด์ง„ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
17:48
Yeah, and I think initially when we went toย  college, there was a transitional phase whereย ย 
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๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ฒ˜์Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ
17:54
everything was getting... it was getting a lotย  more expensive, and that cost benefit analysisย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ๋น„์‹ธ์ง€๋Š” ๊ณผ๋„๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋น„์šฉ ํŽธ์ต ๋ถ„์„์€
18:02
was maybe making less sense. But a lot of ourย  families were still saying the same messageย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ง์ด ์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€์กฐ์ฐจ ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€๋ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
18:06
that you just have to go even if you're not evenย  sure what you want to do, which was in my case,ย ย 
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์ œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋„ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๊ณ ,
18:11
which I think didn't help me. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
18:13
Yeah. Well, my job didn't even exist when I wentย  to college. This job, teaching English online wasย ย 
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๋„ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ ์ œ ์ง์—…์€ ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์ด ์ง์—…์€
18:19
not even an option, so I don't know. It is tricky. Dan:ย 
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์„ ํƒ ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์–ด์„œ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
18:24
Yeah. I don't know what the future holds, but- Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค. ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ- Vanessa:
18:27
Oh, you don't? Dan:ย 
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18:27
... I feel like the world changes really, reallyย  fast in that I will certainly not tell my childrenย ย 
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
... ์ €๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
18:34
they have to go to college, and that this willย  make all the difference. I'll be like, "Well,ย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ณ€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” "๊ทธ๋Ÿผ
18:38
what exactly do you want to do? Let's get in thatย  program. Let's look at the cost benefit analysisย ย 
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋“œ๋Š”์ง€ ๋น„์šฉ ํŽธ์ต ๋ถ„์„์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
18:43
of how much it costs and really dig in there."ย  Unfortunately, I don't feel like my parents didย ย 
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."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
18:48
that, but that's what I'll do. Vanessa:ย 
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, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
18:50
I think their generation really was the lastย  generation who said, "I'll get a university degreeย ย 
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ ์„ธ๋Œ€๋Š” ์ •๋ง '๋Œ€ํ•™ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ์ทจ๋“ํ•˜๋ฉด
18:56
and that will give me a good job," and it worked.ย  So their expectation was what happened to them,ย ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์ง์—…์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์„ธ๋Œ€์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
19:04
but that's not how it is now. Anyway, who knowsย  what will happen in the next 10 to 15 years forย ย 
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์•ž์œผ๋กœ 10~15๋…„ ์•ˆ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ์ง€ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”
19:09
our kids? But I certainly won't pressure them andย  I won't feel disappointed if they decide not to goย ย 
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? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์••๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋…๋ฆฝ์ ์ธ ์„ฑ์ธ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ์‹ค๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:14
to college as long as they are independentย  adults trying to do something different.ย ย 
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.
19:21
I'm going to transition to the last questionย  and skip one question, actually, because I thinkย ย 
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ฑด๋„ˆ๋›ฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
19:27
you're about to say something about it. Dan:ย 
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๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ„:
19:29
Oh, am I? Vanessa:ย 
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19:29
I'm going to guess- Dan:ย 
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ? Vanessa:
์ถ”์ธกํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
19:30
Okay. Vanessa:ย 
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19:30
... because it has to do with what happens if youย  don't get a college degree? Is it hard to find aย ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
... ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋Œ€ํ•™ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”์ง€์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
19:36
job if you don't have a university degree?ย  I did a little bit of research about this,ย ย 
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๋Œ€ํ•™ ํ•™์œ„๊ฐ€ ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ์ทจ์—…์ด ์–ด๋ ต๋‚˜์š”? ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ,
19:41
but what's your gut say? Dan:ย 
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์ง๊ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? Dan:
19:43
If you don't get a university degree, is it harderย ย 
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๋Œ€ํ•™ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋ฉด
19:45
to get a job? Vanessa:ย 
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์ทจ์—…ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์–ด๋ ต๋‚˜์š”? ๋ฐ”๋„ค์‚ฌ:
19:46
Yeah. Yeah. Like if you didn't have a degreeย  right now, would your prospects be more difficult?ย 
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๋„ค. ์‘. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ํ•™์œ„๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ž ์žฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์šธ๊นŒ์š”?
19:52
Dan: I think it probably is.ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ผญ
19:56
I don't think it has to be, but I do think that...ย  I don't know if I've actually read a study aboutย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”... ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฝ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
20:01
this, but I think I heard in a podcast that isย  something that employers will look at. They'llย ย 
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ ๊ณ ์šฉ์ฃผ๋“ค์ด ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด๊ตฐ์š”. . ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ '
20:08
be like, all right, check off four-year degree.ย  They'll just assume that that means a lot. So Iย ย 
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š”
20:14
do think it does mean something. Unfortunately,ย  I don't think it has to be. I think that you canย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์€
20:20
probably really get well-educated without it- Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ์—†์ด๋„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๊ต์œก์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.- Vanessa:
20:24
Definitely. Dan:ย 
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20:24
... nowadays, and I think that might even beย  preferable when you consider how much it costs. Soย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ . Dan:
... ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๋น„์šฉ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
20:31
other than there's a lot of social experiences,ย  however, a lot of the social experiences areย ย 
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์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ ์™ธ์— ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ฒฝํ—˜์€ย ย  ์ˆ ์—
20:36
getting really drunk and misbehaving and stuff- Vanessa:ย 
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์ทจํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜์œ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ - Vanessa:
20:39
Yeah, that's kind of- Dan:ย 
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20:39
... that doesn't really have anything to do with- Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”- Dan:
... ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ƒ๊ด€์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - Vanessa:
20:41
... the stereotype- Dan:ย 
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20:41
... keeping a job. Vanessa:ย 
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... ๊ณ ์ •๊ด€๋…- Dan:
... ์ง์—…์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . Vanessa:
20:42
... of American College is that you just goย  there, get drunk, sleep with a lot of people,ย ย 
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... American College์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ˆ ์— ์ทจํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ž ์„ ์ž๋‹ค๊ฐ€
20:47
and then maybe you stumble into class once a week. Dan:ย 
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์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ์ˆ˜์—…์— ๋“ค์–ด์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
20:50
Yeah, it doesn't really make any sense at all. Vanessa:ย 
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๋„ค, ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ง์ด ์•ˆ ๋ผ์š”. Vanessa:
20:52
Then you pay lots of money for that. That wasn'tย  my college experience, but that is certainly-ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๋Š”๊ตฐ์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด ๋Œ€ํ•™ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ-
20:56
Dan: Oh, it was there.ย 
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Dan: ์•„, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด.
20:57
Vanessa: ... certainly what happens to a lot of people.ย 
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Vanessa: ...ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š”์ง€์š”.
20:59
Dan: Right. Yeah. But I'm still saying that it does,ย ย 
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๋Œ„: ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ์‘. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:01
unfortunately, probably still matter. Vanessa:ย 
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๋ถˆํ–‰ํžˆ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
21:04
Yeah, I would say that that's probably theย  case for specific careers. So what I saw was,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํŠน์ • ์ง์—…์— ํ•ด๋‹น๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์€,
21:11
of course, if you're going to be aย  doctor, if you're going to be an engineer-ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ ค๋ฉด-
21:13
Dan: Well, yeah.ย 
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Dan: ์Œ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
21:15
Vanessa: ... if you're goingย ย 
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21:15
to be in the medical field, those very specificย  technical type of jobs that require education,ย ย 
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Vanessa: ...
์˜๋ฃŒ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ต์œก์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์ง์—…์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด
21:21
that education is probably necessary. But forย  other careers, what I read online said is aย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ต์œก์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง์—…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ์ฝ์€ ๋‚ด์šฉ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด
21:27
college degree necessary? Yes and no. The yes wasย  if you want to be in those specific career fields,ย ย 
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๋Œ€ํ•™ ํ•™์œ„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”. ์˜ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠน์ • ์ง์—… ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
21:33
yeah, if you're going to be a nurse, go get aย  degree in nursing and you'll be fine. I think it'sย ย 
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์˜ˆ, ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธํ•™ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ์ทจ๋“ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”
21:39
actually even a two-year degree. That's amazing. Dan:ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” 2๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ ๋†€๋ผ์šด. ๋Œ„:
21:41
That sounds preferable to me. Some kind ofย  two-year program, I feel like you can learnย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ๋Š” ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ตฐ์š”. ์ผ์ข…์˜ 2๋…„์งœ๋ฆฌ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ธ๋ฐ 2๋…„
21:45
maybe not anything but a lot of things inย  two-years. It doesn't have to be four-years.ย 
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๋™์•ˆ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๋นผ๊ณ ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ๊ผญ 4๋…„์ด ๋  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:50
Vanessa: But it said if you want aย ย 
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Vanessa: ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
21:52
job that usually says we require a degree or theyย  highly recommend a degree in their application,ย ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•™์œ„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ง์—…์„ ์›ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ง€์›์„œ์—์„œ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ์ ๊ทน ๊ถŒ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ง์—…์„ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
21:59
maybe like a software engineer or something likeย  this. If you are an assertive person who hasย ย 
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์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋‚˜ ์ด์™€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์ง์—…์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š” . ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
22:05
done a lot of alternative experiences, now thisย  takes a specific personality type, I think, like-ย 
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๋Œ€์•ˆ์  ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ž๊ธฐ์ฃผ์žฅ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ด์ œ ํŠน์ • ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ ์œ ํ˜•์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:10
Dan: Got to have something for that resume.ย 
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Dan: ์ด๋ ฅ์„œ์— ์“ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:11
Vanessa: Yes, you have aย ย 
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Vanessa: ๋„ค,
22:13
good resume. You've interned. You have maybe takenย  some extracurricular classes at the local collegeย ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์ด๋ ฅ์„œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ตฐ์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ธํ„ด์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ง€์—ญ ๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ ๊ณผ์™ธ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„
22:20
or maybe even some online courses about thatย  specific field. It doesn't have to be a degree-ย 
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์žˆ๊ณ  ํŠน์ • ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ•ํ–ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•™์œ„์ผ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:26
Dan: There's a lot of alternatives out there.ย 
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Dan: ์„ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋Œ€์•ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:27
Vanessa: Yeah, that you can buy yourย ย 
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Vanessa: ์‘,
22:30
assertiveness, which is really what people areย  looking for often, people who will see a problemย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž์ฃผ ์ฐพ๋Š”, ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ 
22:34
and fix the problem. The skills can reallyย  be taught, but that personality and characterย ย 
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๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฐพ๋Š” ์ž๊ธฐ์ฃผ์žฅ์„ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ. ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ๊ณผ ์ธ๊ฒฉ์˜
22:40
quality can't be taught as much. So if you showย  that, then you could get in. So for example,ย ย 
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์งˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋ฉด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
22:47
this isn't about a job, this is about gettingย  into college. There was a homeschoolerย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง์—…์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋Œ€ํ•™ ์ง„ํ•™์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
22:53
who had been homeschooled their entire life andย  they wanted to get into a huge university. Iย ย 
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ํ‰์ƒ ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ํฐ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ์ง„ํ•™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ํ™ˆ์Šค์ฟจ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:59
don't think it was Harvard, but it was a reallyย  high-level university. What they did insteadย ย 
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ํ•˜๋ฒ„๋“œ๋Š” ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ์ˆ˜์ค€ ๋†’์€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์ด๋”๊ตฐ์š”. ๋Œ€์‹  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ ์ผ์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก 
23:05
is they wrote out, of course, every charityย  they worked with, every volunteer experience,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž์„  ๋‹จ์ฒด, ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž์› ๋ด‰์‚ฌ ๊ฒฝํ—˜,
23:11
all of this, but they also wrote a list. The second page of their application was,ย ย 
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ชฉ๋ก๋„ ์ž‘์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€์›์„œ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์—๋Š”
23:16
"100 books that I read last year." Holy cow,ย  that's like two books a week. They wrote outย ย 
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'์ง€๋‚œํ•ด ์ฝ์€ ์ฑ… 100๊ถŒ'์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ, ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋‘ ๊ถŒ์˜ ์ฑ…์ด๊ตฐ์š”.
23:23
everything that they had read and in order andย  all of this, and it showed their assertiveness,ย ย 
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์ฝ์€ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ˆœ์„œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ ์–ด๋‚ด๋Š”๋ฐ,
23:28
"I'm going to be a good student, I'm goingย  to be dedicated." I think for a lot of jobs,ย ย 
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'๋‚˜๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ํ•™์ƒ์ด ๋  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ, ํ—Œ์‹ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ'๋ผ๋Š” ํ™•๊ณ ํ•œ ์˜์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:32
if you can be outstanding like that, thenย  who cares if you have a degree, ideally?ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ํ•™์œ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ๋‚˜์š”?
23:38
A little example too is someone who works for me,ย ย 
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์ž‘์€ ์˜ˆ๋„ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ
23:42
Laura. Hi, Laura, if you're watching. Sheย  helps to write some of the sales content,ย ย 
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Laura์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•, ๋กœ๋ผ, ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํŒ๋งค ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํŒ๋งค ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ž‘์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:48
like sales emails. She's called a copywriter. When I interviewed her, I don't even know ifย ย 
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. ์นดํ”ผ๋ผ์ดํ„ฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
23:55
she has a college degree, I don't even know herย  official education, but her application process,ย ย 
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๋Œ€ํ•™ ํ•™์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ , ๊ณต์‹ ํ•™๋ ฅ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ, ์ง€์› ์ ˆ์ฐจ์™€
24:03
her experience, and she had taken the initiativeย  to do some online copywriting classes and had beenย ย 
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๊ฒฝํ—˜, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฃผ๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์นดํ”ผ๋ผ์ดํŒ… ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
24:12
working on and off for some other businessesย  doing their writing as well. So she had thisย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ธฐ์—…์—์„œ๋„ ๊ธ€์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ
24:18
kind of initiative, and that's really what Iย  was looking for, was someone who was organized,ย ย 
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์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ฃผ๋„๊ถŒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์ด๊ณ 
24:22
took the initiative, creative and was interestedย  in the job. She had taken some classes of her ownย ย 
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์ฃผ๋„๊ถŒ์„ ์ฅ๊ณ  ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ผ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์˜์ง€๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ 
24:29
volition and really done it, and that's whyย  I hired her. She's been amazing. Actually,ย ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
24:34
a lot of my students who join my courses, theyย  say that their job didn't require them to takeย ย 
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๋‚ด ๊ฐ•์ขŒ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ง์—…์ƒ
24:40
English classes, but they write on their resume,ย  "Completed a three-month English course with Speakย ย 
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์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋“ค์„ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ ฅ์„œ์—๋Š” 'Speak English With Vanessa์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ 3๊ฐœ์›” ์˜์–ด ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ด์ˆ˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
24:48
English With Vanessa," and this is the- Dan:ย 
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.'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ- Dan:
24:51
You're an institution. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ธฐ๊ด€์ด๊ตฐ์š”. Vanessa:
24:52
It's not a four-year degree, it's not in ILย  certificate, something official like that,ย ย 
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4๋…„์ œ ํ•™์œ„๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ , IL ์ž๊ฒฉ์ฆ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ,
24:57
but it shows that you took the initiative- Dan:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฃผ๋„๊ถŒ์„ ์žก์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . Dan:
24:59
I think she's pretty official. Vanessa:ย 
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๊ฝค ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Vanessa:
25:00
... and it showed that you're willing toย  go the extra mile to try to do your best.ย ย 
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...๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ผ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:08
So I think that's a good example of a wayย  that extracurricular education can enhanceย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณผ์™ธ ๊ต์œก์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์˜ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:14
your career as well. Well, talking aboutย  internships, I'm curious in your country,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ, ์ธํ„ด์‹ญ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด , ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ๋Š”
25:18
is it common to do an internship? I think inย  Germany it's maybe required that you do a yearย ย 
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์ธํ„ด์‹ญ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ”ํ•œ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋…์ผ์—์„œ๋Š”
25:25
internship after high school, that it's part ofย  the system. I'm not sure. If you're from Germany,ย ย 
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๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต ์กธ์—… ํ›„ 1๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ธํ„ด์‹ญ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋…์ผ ์ถœ์‹ ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
25:30
let me know- Dan:ย 
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์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.- Dan:
25:31
That sounds like a better system to me- Vanessa:ย 
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.- Vanessa:
25:32
... that you get- Dan:ย 
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25:32
I don't know if that's real. Vanessa:ย 
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... ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ- Dan:
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง„์งœ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
25:34
... real-world experience in the worldย  doing something, but I feel like for me,ย ย 
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... ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”
25:40
that would've been pretty helpful just toย  get out of the education system. I felt veryย ย 
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๊ต์œก ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๊ฝค ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ €๋Š”
25:47
overwhelmed going from high school to four-yearsย  of college. Then I had had part-time jobs workingย ย 
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๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต์—์„œ 4๋…„์ œ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ์ง„ํ•™ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฒ…์ฐฌ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€
25:54
in restaurants and these types of things, butย  nothing like a career. By my third year ofย ย 
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๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์ด๋‚˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์—์„œ ์•„๋ฅด๋ฐ”์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ง์—…๋งŒํผ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฑด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€ํ•™ 3ํ•™๋…„์ด ๋˜์ž
26:00
college, I just felt like, "I just want to goย  out into the real world and try to get a job.ย ย 
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'๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ์ทจ์—…์„ ํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค'๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š”.ย ย  ํ•˜๊ณ 
26:05
I don't want to- Dan:ย 
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์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”- Dan:
26:06
Do something. Vanessa:ย 
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26:06
Yeah, I want to do something. It's not commonย  in the U.S. to take a gap year. This is a commonย ย 
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
๋„ค, ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฐญ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:11
thing, I think, in Europe and Australia, thatย  after high school students will take a gap yearย ย 
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์œ ๋Ÿฝ๊ณผ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™์ƒ์ด ๊ฐญ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ 
26:17
and go out and do something. Dan:ย 
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๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. Dan:
26:19
Good job, Europe. Vanessa:ย 
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์ž˜ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ์œ ๋Ÿฝ. Vanessa:
26:20
Go be a nanny, go volunteer- Dan:ย 
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๊ฐ€์„œ ์œ ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”- Dan:
26:22
If that's standard. Vanessa:ย 
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26:22
... on a farm. Dan:ย 
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26:22
Yeah, I think when we were- Vanessa:ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํ‘œ์ค€์ด๋ผ๋ฉด Vanessa:
... ๋†์žฅ์—์„œ. Dan:
๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”- Vanessa:
26:24
Go travel in Southeast Asia, do something. Dan:ย 
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๋™๋‚จ์•„์‹œ์•„๋กœ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. Dan:
26:27
When we were in France that one year, we did meetย  some younger people who seem to either be takingย ย 
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๊ทธํ•ด ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
26:33
a gap year or doing some kind of intern thing.ย  I don't know. I like that a lot. In the U.S.,ย ย 
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๊ฐญ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ธํ„ด ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋“ฏํ•œ ์ Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ช‡ ๋ช… ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”
26:39
it's strange that you graduate high school andย  you have this big ceremony and congratulations,ย ย 
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์ด์ƒํ•ด์š”. ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์กธ์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ํฐ ์ถ•ํ•˜ ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์น˜๋ฅด๊ณ 
26:44
you get to move on to more school. Vanessa:ย 
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ•™๊ต๋กœ ์ „ํ•™ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
26:47
Yeah. I pretty much guarantee that if you wereย  in the U.S. and you graduated from high schoolย ย 
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๋„ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์กธ์—…
26:53
and you said, "I'm going to take a gap year, andย  then I'll decide what I want to do," every singleย ย 
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ํ•˜๊ณ ย ย  "๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐญ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ผ์„ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋“ 
26:58
person will say, "If you don't go to collegeย  now, you're never going to do it. This is yourย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ "์ง€๊ธˆ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
27:05
chance to do it now because you'll forget aboutย  it or you won't have the motivation to do it,ย ย 
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์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•  ์˜์š•์ด ์—†์–ด์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
27:09
or you'll forget about education and forget aboutย  math," these types of things. But in reality,ย ย 
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๊ต์œก๋„ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜ํ•™๋„ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ์ด ๊ธฐํšŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š”
27:15
if you're not meant to go to college and youย  wait a year and you decide not to go to college,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐˆ ์šด๋ช…์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  1๋…„์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:20
well, maybe that was a better path for you.ย  I don't know. I feel a little biased becauseย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ธธ์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ดค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:25
I saw people doing that Europeans who were doingย  that gap year, and I felt really jealous like,ย ย 
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๊ทธ ๊ฐญ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ์งˆํˆฌ์‹ฌ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. '
27:30
oh, I would've loved to do that, butย  it's just not in American culture.ย 
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์•„, ๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์—๋Š” ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ด์•ผ.
27:34
Maybe it might start becoming part of it as weย  learn more about Europe, we're 10 years behindย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
27:39
Europe in those things, but right now, it's notย  part of American culture. You just do school,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฉด์—์„œ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ๋ณด๋‹ค 10๋…„ ๋’ค์ ธ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ ,
27:45
possibly more school and then- Dan:ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋” ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ - Dan:
27:46
Or stop school. Vanessa:ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋งŒ ๋‘์„ธ์š”. Vanessa:
27:47
... pay back your school with your job. So that'sย  it. All right. Well, thanks for talking to meย ย 
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... ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ˆ์œผ๋กœ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐš์œผ์„ธ์š”. ์ง์—…. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:54
today about education. Dan:ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ต์œก์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Dan:
27:55
You're welcome. Vanessa:ย 
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์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”. Vanessa: ๊ฐ์‚ฌ
27:56
I appreciate it. Thank you all for askingย  us your great questions. Well, let us knowย ย 
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ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์Œ,
27:59
in the comments if having an internship orย  doing a gap year is common in your country,ย ย 
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์ธํ„ด์‹ญ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐญ์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:04
I would love to learn more about that. Don'tย  forget to download the free PDF worksheet,ย ย 
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์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ํ™”๋ฉด์— ํŒ์—…์œผ๋กœ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š”
28:10
which includes all of the great vocabularyย  that you saw pop up on the screen here thatย ย 
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ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์–ดํœ˜๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:14
we use. You can get that vocabulary, definition,ย  sample sentences, and at the bottom of that freeย ย 
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. ํ•ด๋‹น ์–ดํœ˜, ์ •์˜, ์ƒ˜ํ”Œ ๋ฌธ์žฅ์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ
28:19
worksheet, you can answer Vanessa's challengeย  question so that you never forget what you'veย ย 
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์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ ํ•˜๋‹จ์—์„œ Vanessa์˜ ์ฑŒ๋ฆฐ์ง€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ตํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์žŠ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:25
learned. You can click on the link inย  the description to download that freeย ย 
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. ์„ค๋ช…์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด
28:28
PDF worksheet today. Well, thanks so much, Dan,ย  for joining me today to talk about education.ย 
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ PDF ์›Œํฌ์‹œํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ต์œก์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, Dan.
28:32
Dan: You're welcome. It was fun. Iย ย 
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๋Œ„: ์ฒœ๋งŒ์—์š”. ์žฌ๋ฏธ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š”
28:34
hope you're a little bit smarter. Vanessa:ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข€ ๋” ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Vanessa:
28:36
Yeah, thank you so much for learning Englishย  with me. I'll see you again next Fridayย ย 
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๋„ค, ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:42
for a new lesson here on my YouTube channel. Bye. Dan:ย 
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์ œ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•. ๋Œ„:
28:45
Bye. Vanessa:ย 
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28:45
But wait, do you want more? I recommendย  watching this video next where you'llย ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•. Vanessa:
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ž ๊น, ๋” ๋“œ๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”? ๋‹ค์Œ์— ์ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด 1, 2, 3 ์ž๋…€ ์–‘์œก์— ๊ด€ํ•ด Dan๊ณผ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š”
28:50
see another real English conversationย  between Dan and I about parenting our 1,ย ย 
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹ค์ œ ์˜์–ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:56
2, 3 children. I can't wait to help you immerseย  yourself in English more, and I'll see you there.
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. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์˜์–ด์— ๋”์šฑ ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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